Anyway, I don't see what Will did as a big deal; Rock was punching down with his joke, so Smith punched him down, you know?
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
So tough but let wifey cheat on him for years
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Originally Posted by StuSmallz (Post 2291281)
Anyway, I don't see what Will did as a big deal; Rock was punching down with his joke, so Smith punched him down, you know?
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
I've now seen an extended version of the incident (I wasn't watching the broadcast), and that was a long walk to the stage. Plenty of time for him to consider what he was about to do. Crazy. Never really had an opinion about Smith before, he was always just "there" as far as I was concerned, but this is a bad look to say the least.
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
Appearance is reality. Even if it was scripted, the "reality" is that he hit him. If that was a bit, then the bit bombed.
I did find it odd that Smith appeared to be suppressing a smirk when he yelled F-bombs from his seat (looked a bit like Duper's Delight), but people act weird in stressed situations. It is very tempting to judge non-verbal behaviors as false, but genuine behavior can often seem false. It is interesting that the acceptance speech was re-crafted(?) as an apologia for the strike. "I just defend strong and fragile people" yada, yada. He apologized to the Academy, but not to Rock, so it was a non-apology-apology (i.e., the sort of thing one would expect from a narcissist). At any rate, I don't think that this was a scripted moment. |
Staged? The optics of that? For the world to see?
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Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 2291276)
Chris Rock made a joke about Jada having a shaved head... thing is, she's suffering with alopecia.
Rock basically made a joke out of her medical condition... and it's not the first time Chris has made jokes about Jada's condition. If the Rock did know, was the joke a warrant for violence ("Fighting Words")? Wanda Sykes recently made fun of LeBron James going bald and presumably his alopecia is just as medical as Jada's (i.e., people go bald - many women wear wigs). Why is it a medical condition when a woman goes bald, but an amusement when a man does? But, let's say that Rock knew and that making fun of female alopecia amounts to "fighting words." It's not a double-standard or, if it is, it is a righteous one. Do you, as a 53-year-old-grown-assed-man at an event the represents the best of your trade and at which you have been honored in the past and at which you are presently nominated for honors, pick this moment to stride up to a comedian to strike him across the face? |
All I know is that if I snuck into an adult movie theater and How The West Was Won was playing, I'd be a little disappointed.
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
At age 7?
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Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2291286)
Appearance is reality. Even if it was scripted, the "reality" is that he hit him. If that was a bit, then the bit bombed.
I did find it odd that Smith appeared to be suppressing a smirk when he yelled F-bombs from his seat (looked a bit like Duper's Delight), but people act weird in stressed situations. It is very tempting to judge non-verbal behaviors as false, but genuine behavior can often seem false. It is interesting that the acceptance speech was re-crafted(?) as an apologia for the strike. "I just defend strong and fragile people" yada, yada. He apologized to the Academy, but not to Rock, so it was a non-apology-apology (i.e., the sort of thing one would expect from a narcissist). |
Originally Posted by StuSmallz (Post 2291296)
Jada revealed four years ago that she has alopecia, so Smith didn't really need to apologize to Rock, as I see it.
I don't generally buy the whole "toxic masculinity" thing, but this is a total toxic masculinity thing. Culture of honor nonsense. "Keep my wife's name out of your mouth" - speaking of Jada as a possession (the honor of his wife has been offended). Then there's the rambling acceptance speech where he bangs on about protecting "strong" but "fragile" women. |
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
Interesting to see that when I was sleeping one of the highest-paid actors in America punched some dude I've never heard about before.
tl;dr why he hit him? Initially, I thought Smith's wife cheated on him with the dude, but now it seems Chris Rock just said some joke about her? Anyway, it's much more important that the actual best film of the year got the Oscar it deserved. |
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
I understand why Smith took offense to what Rock said since he was essentially making fun of his wife's medical condition, but there's a time and place for everything and smacking him in the face on live tv and getting visibly upset was going out of line and he could've handled the situation much better.
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Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2291300)
Interesting to see that when I was sleeping one of the highest-paid actors in America punched some dude I've never heard about before.
tl;dr why he hit him? Initially, I thought Smith's wife cheated on him with the dude, but now it seems Chris Rock just said some joke about her? |
Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
I don't know... the slap still looks fake to me (like two kids play fighting).
And the reactions don't seem natural - there's not a hint of a pause on Chris's part, and even if a slap didn't hurt, a person would still be stunned momentarily just by the element of surprise - and when we get hit in the face it's just reflex to put your hand to your face (a combination of protection in case more is coming and as an act to sooth and inspect the area attacked via touch even if it's not necessarily painful). Also, both are smirking immediately afterward. Such a brazen attack would need real anger behind it if it was real, yet Smith looks like he's trying not to laugh as he walks away. |
Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
A smashing joke.
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Re: Uncensored video of Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars
The jokes are great though...
"Why did he use an open hand? Paper beats Rock." "Will Smith saw Jada wasn't laughing and had a "What Would Tupac Do?" moment." |
Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2291306)
I don't know... the slap still looks fake to me (like two kids play fighting).
And the reactions don't seem natural - there's not a hint of a pause on Chris's part, and even if a slap didn't hurt, a person would still be stunned momentarily just by the element of surprise - and when we get hit in the face it's just reflex to put your hand to your face (a combination of protection in case more is coming and as an act to sooth and inspect the area attacked via touch even if it's not necessarily painful). Also, both are smirking immediately afterward. Such a brazen attack would need real anger behind it if it was real, yet Smith looks like he's trying not to laugh as he walks away.
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