Re: Star Wars Movies Coming to Blu-ray
In a way, I can understand George Lucas for doing this. It's his movie and he feels it's unfinished. Once the man dies, he'll no longer be able to add improvements to the film. He likes technology and what it can do for films. If I was a filmmaker and I made something as enormous and popular as Star Wars, as time went by and I was getting older, I'd probably get all nervous and start messing around with my original work, too. These films will live on longer than he does and in the grand scheme of things, his time on Earth is limited. Nothing else he ever does is going to be as successful as Star Wars.
In the future, someone will be able to restore the original versions exactly as they were shown in theatres and George Lucas will be dead and won't be overtaking the movies anymore, adding and changing things. At the same time, we'll still have the altered versions that George changed later in his life. All will be appreciated and studied and the originals may still be considered the best, but the final versions of the Star Wars movies -- however they end up once George is gone -- will probably remain as the definitive movies. The master works. I think it's kinda revolutionary that George sees movies as works in progress. He's obsessive -- but many people throughout history have been obsessive. This kind of thing is really something to be expected. It'll probably only add to his legend and to his eternal fame. And let's face it -- all of us who grew up with the original versions of these films are gonna die out with time. New people will be born and experience the changes Lucas made and many will probably prefer them. The original versions of these movies will be history. |
Originally Posted by Sexy Celebrity (Post 760669)
I think it's kinda revolutionary that George sees movies as works in progress.
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 760674)
No no no no really? Revolutionary? Have you never heard of music? Composers, aeons ago and today, rewrite all the time, except in their case they usually do make improvements unlike this all-life crisis of a situation.
People scream that George Lucas is wrecking Star Wars but I seriously believe that's only because of personal feelings and standards set forth by those original versions of the films. The fact is that most people I've known hate drastic changes to movies -- but it's usually just because they are used to the originals and loved them and knew them that way. I think that in the future these standards and feelings for the altered Star Wars films might change. I don't exactly agree that films should be messed with and certainly changes can be made that are bad, but I think that with time, alterations could be seen as improvements. The blinking Ewoks look kind of cute. I also like the "No" coming from Darth Vader. You might fall in love with the silent Vader, but Lucas might have looked back on it with regret. In his mind - and we should appreciate that mind - it might have needed a "Nooooo!" Not all thoughts and realizations about things come immediately. Sometimes stuff takes time. |
Re: Star Wars Movies Coming to Blu-ray
I'm against changes that don't make sense. George Lucas's changes don't make sense.
Why in the f*** do Ewoks need CG eyes? Will I believe they're more real and try to adopt one? No. I have a well reasoned argument AGAINST most of the changes Lucas made yet all we have from the man is "I couldn't do it before." |
Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 760681)
Why in the f*** do Ewoks need CG eyes? Will I believe they're more real and try to adopt one? No.
You might want to adopt one now. Explore your feelings. |
Re: Star Wars Movies Coming to Blu-ray
Your defense is still shallow. His changes only take away, there's no way of looking around that. If eyes are so important then why does the blinking look so damn fake?
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Originally Posted by Sexy Celebrity (Post 760669)
The master works.
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 760684)
Your defense is still shallow. His changes only take away, there's no way of looking around that. If eyes are so important then why does the blinking look so damn fake?
And why not blink? Can't the poor, damn Ewok naturally moisturize its eyes?! I'm telling ya -- if those things had blinked in the original version, more people would have liked them. Blinking adds cuteness. http://www.freewebs.com/elementalang...anime_girl.jpg It's like anime girls. Everyone likes them because of their big eyes. |
Originally Posted by Sexy Celebrity (Post 760686)
And why not blink? Can't the poor, damn Ewok naturally moisturize its eyes?!
I'm telling ya -- if those things had blinked in the original version, more people would have liked them. Blinking adds cuteness. It's like anime girls. Everyone likes them because of their big eyes.
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 760688)
And why can't its eyes just be self moisturizing? Not every creature in the universe is a humanoid.
People can now look at those things and think, it blinks like I do. Kids will see them as more of a blinking role model. Blink-182, the band, will probably make the Ewok its mascot. Why can't the Ewok just be a self moisturizing creature? Cause it's nothing more than a little person inside a furry costume. I think it's even played by Warwick Davis, who also played this guy: http://content6.flixster.com/photo/1...847324_gal.jpg
Originally Posted by wintertriangles
Well. They're humans. Also, I'm pretty sure most people love them as it is because they're already adorable. Fake blinking just reminds me how fake their fakeness is faked.
And nobody's gonna look at the non-blinking eyes and think their eyes self moisturize. They're just gonna think they're fake eyes glued into a prop head. |
Re: Star Wars Movies Coming to Blu-ray
I have a hard time believing you say these things with any real conviction
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Originally Posted by Sexy Celebrity (Post 760669)
I think it's kinda revolutionary that George sees movies as works in progress.
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Originally Posted by planet news (Post 760700)
This is the most vile, obscene thing I have ever read.
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Re: Star Wars Movies Coming to Blu-ray
There you go. :highfive:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWxor-yARa8
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Originally Posted by wintertriangles (Post 760698)
I have a hard time believing you say these things with any real conviction
Movies are so bound by a time schedule and a release date and for the business of making money. But think of a movie with a much longer timespan until it is completely finished. With DVD releases, George Lucas has found a loophole in the system -- he's discovered a way to keep the excitement of the movie going and he gets to revise his work. He sells his revisions through the angle of the new DVD releases annoucing the changes. This way, he keeps himself exciting - or at least talked about. And he'll always have his large group of fans that love Star Wars. Nobody's gonna turn their backs now -- unless he does something extreme like reshooting the entire movie series again with new actors. But he's a good artist -- he's not gonna be that stupid. Star Wars is a work of art first and foremost. All movies are. So why not revise if you have the balls to do it? Can you imagine if somebody went back and turned a really horrible movie - something we all hate - into something wonderful? And I don't mean by doing a remake -- I mean by tweaking a lot of things here and there. Could that be possible? I say it might. Could Georgie be ruining Star Wars? Absolutely. But give it some consideration and truly see if it is ruined. It would actually be interesting to see Star Wars lose its appeal because George Lucas tweaked it too much and ruined it -- I doubt that will happen, but what if? The terrible thing is that Star Wars still has the box office success to fall back on. It will always be historical that way, no matter what becomes of the movies. It will always be historical for having been a phenomenon. And with that, I don't know what else to say.... |
Originally Posted by Sexy Celebrity (Post 760711)
I think of the filmmaker as being an artist...
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime (Post 760714)
Yeah, but is it acceptable for an artist to go and change their work years after it's done?
Why is it not acceptable? The only true reason I can see for it to not be acceptable is if everything art-related is judged as if in some kind of contest with a time limit. Now, I don't mind if it's judged - I don't mind if it's a contest - but a time limit idea is fleeting. Sure, the Academy Awards are every year - a 1976 film cannot compete for Best Picture in 2012 - I suppose. I wonder if it could if it was revised and re-released? Probably not. Probably wouldn't pick up a nomination, at least. Would be interesting, though, if something like that ever did happen. I'm chaotic. I'm random. I'm a big, open minded thinker. I'm just trying to see how things could be changed around and made sumptuous, appetizing, appealing, inventive and out of the box. I think it can be acceptable to change a movie. Yeah, you might piss off the actors that starred in it, but so what? It's your movie. It might also belong to the public's hearts, but what have I been saying? All those hearts are gonna stop beating one day anyway. New hearts will be around and they might love and accept the new version of the film. Yeah, there might be historical records of all of us hating the revised film, but so what? Words are words. Talk is cheap. Art is powerful. Revised art can be powerful - more powerful than the original. Don't look away from revised art -- it's not sunlight. It won't hurt you. Look at it. Give it a chance. Give it a kiss. It's here to stay. Accept it like family. That is, if you feel you can. It's understandable if you can't, but maybe it has gifts to give you. A blinking Ewok wants your love. A blinking Ewok blinks for you. Don't cover your eyes -- BLINK BACK!!! Blink black, dammit, blink back! http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...x1b4o1_400.gif And chew. |
Re: Star Wars Movies Coming to Blu-ray
I'm not sure what 1976 has to do with this last post. But please don't respond. It's embarrassing... again. But all the poor suckers here love you, so do what you want, you little charmer.
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Originally Posted by mark f (Post 760777)
I'm not sure what 1976 has to do with this last post. But please don't respond. It's embarrassing... again. But all the poor suckers here love you, so do what you want, you little charmer.
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