Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
Jeanne Dielmann is awful.
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Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
Céline and Julie Go Boating worth a watch? never heard of that one
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Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 2350043)
Céline and Julie Go Boating worth a watch? never heard of that one
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Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 2350043)
Céline and Julie Go Boating worth a watch? never heard of that one
Maybe it was my mood, but I struggled with it. I usually have no problem with a movie confusing me, and ****ing around with my perception of what I'm actually watching, but its strangeness just alienated me. Not even really sure why. |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2350047)
Maybe it was my mood, but I struggled with it.
I usually have no problem with a movie confusing me, and ****ing around with my perception of what I'm actually watching, but its strangeness just alienated me. Not even really sure why. |
Some great choices, some automatic choices, some fashionable choices.
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Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 2350042)
Jeanne Dielmann is awful.
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Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2349983)
The enforcement of the female director policy is quite laughable because while I agree that Jeanne Dielman and Daisies are masterpieces and deserve a spot (whether as high is up to debate), the inclusion of Portrait of a Lady on Fire at #30 is quite laughable. Wanda at #48 is fishy though. I haven't seen that one, though (one of three I haven't seen from the entire list).
I'll have to read more about voting and the rules involved. Still, I find this particular part amusing: I'm surprised there are no programming tutorials high on the list. But yeah, all in all, it's a pretty good list. I'm glad to see it in the top 100. I feel like it's somewhat high, especially since A Woman Under the Influence (or any Cassavetes) isn't on the list. Granted, in terms of where they ended up landing for placement, there's probably a number of films I have to scratch my head over on them. |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2350006)
Glad to see L'Atalante is still hanging in.
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Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2350063)
Actually, give me your take on the appeal of this one. Because years back when I was addressing some of my Sight & Sound blindspots with the last list, I think this was on the only high ranking one I came across that I just did not understand why it was there. i.e. I didn't sense any hooks, angles, emotional resonances as to why it would put its claws into people's mental spaces where when it came time to say ten movies they love, its name would come to their lips.
It is a movie that feels like it is being dreamed up by the director from one scene to the next. It is kind of formless and it doesn't really have a hook. It just drifts along the river. And while this isn't really that remarkable a thing with modern films, there are a billion movies that do this both intentionally and unintentionally these days, its lightness of touch, and fluid soft spoken weirdness, is almost shocking for the time. I think it might be one of the most alive films made, until Godard came around. And its better than anything Godard did. |
Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
No Cassavetes is absurd.
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Woman Under the Influence was #19 on the director's poll.
Only one. But hey, there's only a hundred spots. Another weird thing. Tropical Malady over Uncle Boonmee or Cemetery of Splendor. I say weird not because of quality, because I haven't seen the former. Mainly because it's only accessible by kanopy (which a number of large metro area libraries no longer include as part of their memberships) or DVD. Not even Blu-ray. You can't rent it in streaming platforms if JustWatch is to be believed. Which leads me to wonder, how did enough people see that one? |
Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
I'm at 55/100. The ones I haven't seen...
1. Jeanne Dielman 7. Beau Travail 9. Man with a Movie Camera 11. Sunrise 13. The Rules of the Game 14. Cleo from 5 to 7 15. The Searchers 17. Close-Up 25. Au Hasard Balthazar 27. Shoah 28. Daisies 31. Mirror 34. L'Atalante 35. Pather Panchali 36. City Lights 44. Killer of Sheep 48. Wanda 49. Ordet 51. The Piano 52. News from Home 53. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul 57. Contempt 59. Sans Soleil 60. Daughters of the Dust 66. Touki Bouki 67. The Gleaners and I 69. Andrei Rublev 70. The Red Shoes 72. My Neighbor Totoro 73. Journey to Italy 74. L'Avventura 75. Imitation of Life 78. Brighter Summer Day 79. Satantango 80. Celine & Julie Go Boating 83. A Matter of Life and Death 85. Pierrot Le Fou 86. Histoire(s) du Cinema 87.The Spirit of the Beehive 89. Chungking Express 90. The Earrings of Madame de... 91. The Leopard 92. Ugetsu 94. Yi Yi 100. Tropical Malady Now, give it to me *covers* |
Good for Jeanne Dielman, an epic unlike any other.
I am pleased/surprised/confused by the inclusion of Meshes of the Afternoon, and in such a high spot! I'd love to see a graphic that breaks down the ballots. |
I'm pretty happy with a lot of the list. Though I am a little surprised at some things that dropped off (Bride Of Frankenstein) and some things that have fallen so far (Metropolis, Casablanca).
I was really happy to see two films that were new to me in the last 2-3 years, and would absolutely make a very short list for me, certainly would make my top let's say 25 new watches of the last 5-10 years make the list, Cleo From 5 to 7 and Black Girl. On the one hand, nice to see Blade Runner getting this kind of love, but on the other, I'm still pretty baffled at Goodfellas being on the list and being as high as it is and above so many films I feel are better, but I guess that's just personal. The one that shocked me was Portrait Of A Lady On Fire. Not because I didn't think it belonged there, I haven't seen it yet though I've been meaning to since it was released, but just that it's so recent and it's an All-Time list that anything that's had so little time to be vetted or prove its staying-power comes as a big surprise to me, but I guess it just makes me want to see it even more. Feels like there also may be some recency bias, and what I mean is that streaming has allowed a lot of films that were not very accessible to become so and a lot of those films seem to have made the list, making one wonder if that effected this poll in particular. Not that it really matters except that we're set with this list for another decade and it will be interesting to see how it shakes out in another ten years when films that have only popped up in the last few as being readily available have been so for a dozen, fifteen years or whatever. Overall, I found this all very exciting. |
Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
Dupe heh
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Originally Posted by SuperMetro (Post 2349964)
Quite surprised with the results. I could not believe that Daisies made it in 28th place, Cleo From 5 to 7 in 14th place, and Jeanne Dielmann in number 1. I was shocked over Jeanne Dielmann winning as it was unexpected, I thought 2001 would win. I was quite happy with this list. And Citizen Kane was at number 3 seems sad after it winning for so many decades and landing number 2 last one.
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sou...films-all-time https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sou...films-all-time Once I finally saw it, my reaction was, "How has this not been considered one of the best films ever made all along? This is as good as or better than any French New Wave film I have ever seen and I think this is one of the best movies I've ever seen." For me, it's the best film I've seen in the last 3 years, given that I saw The Passion Of Joan Of Arc 3 years and 3 months ago. So, I felt 14 was pretty close to right on the money. For me, right now, it is the best film of the FNW, passing Breathless, my previous favorite. Not that I am an expert on the sub-genre, but if someone said, "The best film of the French New Wave landed at 14", I'd be like, "Ok, that makes sense." And, for me, that's exactly what happened. |
Re: Opinions on BFI 2022 Sight and Sound Poll
I love the idea of someone finding this list and being like, "Oh what's this movie that is ranked #1 maybe I should watch it" and I'd watch that reaction video and I hate those videos.
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Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2349995)
Not an actual policy, but I sometimes think that people feel they SHOULD include at least one female director on their list just because.
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Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 2350043)
Céline and Julie Go Boating worth a watch? never heard of that one
Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2350061)
Fishy at 48 or fishy for being in the top 100?
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2350069)
I think it might be one of the most alive films made, until Godard came around. And its better than anything Godard did.
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2350070)
No Cassavetes is absurd.
Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2350071)
Another weird thing. Tropical Malady over Uncle Boonmee or Cemetery of Splendor.
Originally Posted by Thief (Post 2350073)
Now, give it to me *covers*
Originally Posted by Wooley (Post 2350102)
I would say this, for me personally, about Cleo From 5 to 7:
Once I finally saw it, my reaction was, "How has this not been considered one of the best films ever made all along? This is as good as or better than any French New Wave film I have ever seen and I think this is one of the best movies I've ever seen."
Originally Posted by Wooley (Post 2350109)
I mean, didn't only 14 films by female directors make it despite those females making up literally 50% of the population?
Also, I just noticed Moonlight and Get Out made it. LOL. |
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