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TONGO 03-02-17 02:10 PM


Sarge 03-02-17 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Doolallyfrank (Post 1660175)
You can't have the last stand in the same timeline as days of future past, Xavier was disintegrated or whatever you wanna call that nonsense, the last stand shouldn't be in any timeline

The reviews of Logan are OTT for me, it was good but there are 4 better X-Men films at least

Definitely better than the Wolverine though

:D

TJLamb0518 03-02-17 02:25 PM

Wait...this is about Wolverine???


I was expecting to see Michael York is a swanky turtleneck running from Sandmen to avoid Carrousel!

doubledenim 03-03-17 02:37 PM

Re: Logan
 
I'm going to give myself half-credit for the Deadpool mention, because of the apparent teaser before the movie. Before, after, same difference.

Raven73 03-04-17 02:31 PM

Saw it last night.

Finally we got to see blood in a Wolverine movie.

It was a visceral film. I think it's the best in the series.

Dani8 03-04-17 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Raven73 (Post 1661679)
Saw it last night.

Finally we got to see blood in a Wolverine movie.

It was a visceral film. I think it's the best in the series.
Well that's promising because I thought the last one was seriously lacking.

Fabio2589 03-05-17 08:29 PM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by Raven73 (Post 1661679)
Saw it last night.

Finally we got to see blood in a Wolverine movie.

It was a visceral film. I think it's the best in the series.
It was amazing! I loved the action scenes, especially the last 45 minutes, i really loved Dafne Keen's role, she played Laura very well

thePrimeOne 03-05-17 08:46 PM

Re: Logan
 
Just saw the film and it was very good. I wouldn't even call it a superhero movie.

Nimrod 03-05-17 08:48 PM

Re: Logan
 
why are here so many, with a miserable, degenerate taste what a pity...

ShopkeeperTriumph 03-05-17 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 1662558)
why are here so many, with a miserable, degenerate taste what a pity...
We're all just miserable degenerates here at Movie Forums, that's why. You're just going to have to accept that.

Saunch 03-06-17 01:00 AM

Re: Logan
 
This was good

Captain Steel 03-06-17 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 1662558)
why are here so many, with a miserable, degenerate taste what a pity...
Is this in response to people liking the movie or someone not liking it?

Sarge 03-06-17 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 1662558)
why are here so many, with a miserable, degenerate taste what a pity...
No idea. People and their opinions... :D

Ultraviolence 03-06-17 07:48 AM

I watched last week. I hated for many reasons... Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart was awesome as always but nothing new here... The violence was cool, the story was lame and the CG fights sucks!!

TheUsualSuspect 03-06-17 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 1662754)
I watched last week. I hated for many reasons... Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart was awesome as always but nothing new here... The violence was cool, the story was lame and the CG fights sucks!!
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'll take this over generic comic villain wanting to destroy the world any day.

Iroquois 03-06-17 08:49 AM

Re: Logan
 
Not enough cops holding two guns and jumping through the air, I'm guessing.

Sarge 03-06-17 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by TheUsualSuspect (Post 1662764)
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'll take this over generic comic villain wanting to destroy the world any day.
This.

Saunch 03-06-17 09:23 AM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by TheUsualSuspect (Post 1662764)
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'll take this over generic comic villain wanting to destroy the world any day.
"No sky portal? Hard pass."

Iroquois 03-06-17 09:30 AM

Re: Logan
 
Given what kind of movies Ultraviolence does like, I don't think their problem with Logan is that it's not "comic book" enough.

TJLamb0518 03-06-17 09:51 AM

Re: Logan
 
I liked it. Not fantastic, not the best CBM ever....but it was a good effort.

Dani8 03-07-17 05:09 PM

Re: Logan
 
Hugh doing sound fx in post

https://www.facebook.com/HughJackman...4076947987607/

Sarge 03-08-17 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Dani8 (Post 1663812)
Superb :cool:

Ultraviolence 03-08-17 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Raven73 (Post 1661679)
I think it's the best in the series.
Thats not actually difficulty. The last good X-Men movie was released in 2003. I think that's why people are so amazed by this one... Personally, it's just another movie... Nothing good about it, the violence was not that brutal as I was expecting. :(

MovieMeditation 03-08-17 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 1664142)
the violence was not that brutal as I was expecting. :(
wait, what?

You are really putting up some high demands, huh? :p

I thought it was extremely violent.

Iroquois 03-08-17 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 1664142)
Thats not actually difficulty. The last good X-Men movie was released in 2003. I think that's why people are so amazed by this one... Personally, it's just another movie... Nothing good about it, the violence was not that brutal as I was expecting. :(
On the other hand, I could contend that X2's good reputation similarly benefits from a lack of real competition that makes it seem better in comparison. You know what other superhero movies were out in 2003? Hulk, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Daredevil...you get the idea. In any case, I could see how this could come across as "just another movie" when virtually all you watch is grim violent action/thrillers anyway. I think the (relative) lack of brutality works in Logan's favour - there's a purpose to it that makes it preferable to the R-rated superhero stuff that revels in its bloody carnage.

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1664151)
wait, what?

You are really putting up some high demands, huh? :p

I thought it was extremely violent.
What do you expect? His username is Ultraviolence.

Ultraviolence 03-08-17 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1664163)
On the other hand, I could contend that X2's good reputation similarly benefits from a lack of real competition that makes it seem better in comparison. You know what other superhero movies were out in 2003? Hulk, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Daredevil...you get the idea. In any case, I could see how this could come across as "just another movie" when virtually all you watch is grim violent action/thrillers anyway. I think the (relative) lack of brutality works in Logan's favour - there's a purpose to it that makes it preferable to the R-rated superhero stuff that revels in its bloody carnage.

X2 was better than all others X-Men movies. That's my point!
"all you watch is grim violent action/thrillers" well, I'm a big fan of comic books, so I really like super heroes in stupid suits. My problem with the adaptations it's that people can't be impartial. They love everything that Marvel does without judge. Guardians of the Galaxy for example sucked, but if I say that out loud near to the fans, they think that I'm a weirdo just because of that. I used to read GotG since I was a kid. In Marvel Now, GotG sucked, just like the movie. I was one of the few persons who know wtf was Rocket Raccoon when they added him on Marvel vs Capcom 3.

Iroquois 03-08-17 09:38 AM

Re: Logan
 
It doesn't matter if it was the best or not (personally I don't think so, but that's just me). My point was about the extenuating circumstances that would influence one's perception of its actual quality - you even say that people can't be impartial about the adaptations, so does that apply to you as well? I certainly don't love everything Marvel does, but I still liked Logan just fine as its own movie.

Sarge 03-08-17 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 1664168)
X2 was better than all others X-Men movies. That's my point!
"all you watch is grim violent action/thrillers" well, I'm a big fan of comic books, so I really like super heroes in stupid suits. My problem with the adaptations it's that people can't be impartial. They love everything that Marvel does without judge. Guardians of the Galaxy for example sucked, but if I say that out loud near to the fans, they think that I'm a weirdo just because of that. I used to read GotG since I was a kid. In Marvel Now, GotG sucked, just like the movie. I was one of the few persons who know wtf was Rocket Raccoon when they added him on Marvel vs Capcom 3.
I disagree. There are the Marvel fanboys and fangirls out there who will love verything they do, there are also the comic book purists who will pick faults in how the film has strayed from the comic etc. Then there are those like me, who have no loyalty to marvel but take each film on it's own merits. I do it with all films, including super hero films and including marvel films.
Thought most of the Marvel films were average with some dreadful ones thrown in, thought most of the X men films were average. Loved Logan.
If all of the other Marvel films were of this standard then I may well be a Marvel Fanboy

Ultraviolence 03-08-17 12:08 PM

Ok guys, Logan it's fine!

Siddon 03-08-17 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 1664142)
Thats not actually difficulty. The last good X-Men movie was released in 2003. I think that's why people are so amazed by this one... Personally, it's just another movie... Nothing good about it, the violence was not that brutal as I was expecting. :(
c'mon now....

92% Logan
91% Days of Future Past
86% X-men First Class
86% X-2
84% Deadpool
81% X-men
69% The Wolverine
58% X-men Last Stand
48% X-men Apocalypse
38% Wolverine:Origins

compared to what we got last year
27% Batman V Superman

Just to keep things in perspective. There were things in Logan that I really liked and other quibbles I didn't care for.

Yoda 03-08-17 12:58 PM

Re: Logan
 
https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/...08592447995907

MovieMeditation 03-08-17 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1664288)
Originally Posted by Dani8 (Post 1663812)
:data:

Yoda 03-08-17 12:59 PM

Re: Logan
 
Sorry. a) I didn't notice, but b) in my defense, better to post something like a tweet that can be embedded right on the page, anyway, without having to leave the thread.

Dani8 03-08-17 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1664290)
Sorry. a) I didn't notice, but b) in my defense, better to post something like a tweet that can be embedded right on the page, anyway, without having to leave the thread.
It's so good it needs multiple postings. 👍

Yoda 03-08-17 04:00 PM

Re: Logan
 
https://twitter.com/NME/status/839454595659231233

Dani8 03-08-17 04:05 PM

Re: Logan
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Northpoint 03-16-17 08:32 PM

A week later and this movie is STILL haunting me.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing???

cat_sidhe 03-16-17 10:10 PM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1664290)
Sorry. a) I didn't notice, but b) in my defense, better to post something like a tweet that can be embedded right on the page, anyway, without having to leave the thread.
I never click on the fb links either. Sorry @Dani8...they ruin my sense of board aesthetics. #FancyBish :lol:

TONGO 03-23-17 04:19 AM

https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/...12108906496001

Movie_Talk 03-25-17 06:49 PM

Re: Logan
 
For those who watched 'Logan', what do you guys think of the movie?

Little Devil 03-25-17 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Movie_Talk (Post 1675636)
For those who watched 'Logan', what do you guys think of the movie?
For me it's a "see once" thing.

As I said somewhere else, I wasn't expecting much and wasn't getting in the hype. It sure is different from all the other Wolverine movies [and the one's he has been in]; has a different tone to it, but at the same time it reminded me of the first X-men movie [his rlationship with Rogue]

Highlights of the movie [for me] - Xavier as a grumpy old man, Logn taking care of him with a sort of aggressive patience. Has an interesting plot point towards the end.

Sort of meh: the kid didn't blow me away; the Reavers were downplayed, no connection to Essex [Mister Sinister].

Upton 03-25-17 08:53 PM

Re: Logan
 
Superhero movies made for kids > superhero movies made for teenagers is my opinion after seeing this movie. Hope to go the rest of my life without seeing another set of adamantium claws shoved into a skull with CG blood spraying out

bob13bob 06-08-17 07:56 PM

Re: Logan
 
Not a purist, it’s ok to modernize and improve from source material. The watchmen movie change from alien > blue penis power was a great change that kept the story tighter and more believable.

Agreed very strongly with this guy’s review on logan
http://www.metacritic.com/user/DefinitelyMayb

i loved the direction they took with the movie, but it was a bit of a disappointing misfire. It was a great and different take on grounding wolverine. The trailer was much better than the movie. There was some amazing creative decisions, eg the beginning, and some crap ones. Script felt a bit lazy. Loved the down on his luck last mutants struggling driving uber etc. Caliban was a great character. Xavier’s failing mind being a liability. One of hte most impactful scenes with him stairing in the mirror bloodied and scarred should have been used better (think die hard feet on glass), and not given away in the trailers.

Logan shows up and the caretaker is randomly dead? But it’s not crawling with security staff? The random stop at the farm? They should have had logan kill caliban (but caliban asking for it) as a moral choice between killing one and saving the others. Also the girls is overly skilled in combat, hurts the suspension of disbelief. Super green serum, etc.

In terms of comparison. Days of future > xmen first class > xmen = x2 (tossup) > logan

5fluteendmill 06-10-17 12:35 PM

Re: Logan
 
This movie was cheese. I liked The Mummy better.

doubledenim 06-11-17 04:10 AM

This is old news, but still good. I heard about from the TESD pod.


5fluteendmill 06-24-17 10:41 PM

Re: Logan
 
Watched Logan again and changed my mind it was pretty good. For some reason these movies seem to be better when I watch them on a smaller tv. This happened when I watched interstellar, I walked out and said well that movie sucked, now it's my favorite movie after watching at home. Maybe to much going on when seeing on the big screen, anybody else feel like this?

Saunch 06-24-17 10:50 PM

Could be overexposure to theatre cacophony but I thought it was overexposure to tablets or other personal viewing platforms.

I tend to favor "big" movies at home maybe for the fact that they dominate online discussion, thusly I want to experience them in the most uninterrupted way to take in as much as possible.

Movies like, say, Silence, id rather watch in a theatre knowing that the filmmakers have put more effort into this presentation than a smaller scale one.

New big movies are made with the knowledge that they will consumed (mostly) in small quarters.

Larry 06-25-17 08:30 AM

Re: Logan
 
Went on for to long. Didnt quite understand the world they lived in or care. Melancholy. Not rewatchable. Violent action but not exciting action. If you hadn't already cottoned on I'm not a fan of superheroes movies these days and this "adult" version didn't sway me.

Whale Song 06-27-17 11:57 AM

Absolutely loved it. Possibly the best superhero movie to date; at least top five.

I liked the dark feel it had, as well as the girl who was wicked cool.


gandalf26 07-01-17 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 1664254)
c'mon now....

92% Logan
91% Days of Future Past
86% X-men First Class
86% X-2
84% Deadpool
81% X-men
69% The Wolverine
58% X-men Last Stand
48% X-men Apocalypse
38% Wolverine:Origins

compared to what we got last year
27% Batman V Superman

Just to keep things in perspective. There were things in Logan that I really liked and other quibbles I didn't care for.
Thought Logan was very good, first impressions 8/10. Fitting send off to probably the longest serving Superhero with the same actor, is it 17 years from X-Men to now? Credit to Hugh Jackman for keeping himself in shape (perhaps with the help of a roid or 2), and being good humoured enough with a couple of cameos.

X-Men has been the most consistent of comic book series since the turn of the millennium, producing several great films and even the bad ones are far superior to the bad films in other franchises, Man of Steel anyone?? The series has shown how to properly say goodbye to beloved characters with Logan and Days of Future Past, whereas other franchises have handled this terribly, how many Spiderman's is that now? Also how to respectfully pull off a reboot in First Class and Days of Future Past aswell with an ingenious movie featuring the old and new cast together, even a brilliant scene where the old and new Charles pass the baton as it were.

The future of the franchise is bright too, when X-Men began in 2000, the main cast were all in their mid thirties with the exception of the elder statesmen in Magneto and Xavier, the reboot has the main cast reaching early adulthood so their coming of age can still be told without really covering past material, although we are about to get another Dark Phoenix movie I believe.

Iroquois 07-01-17 07:20 AM

Re: Logan
 
I'd take Man of Steel over at least half the X-Men movies (and especially over the likes of, say, the third and fourth Christopher Reeve movies), but that's just me.

gandalf26 07-01-17 07:32 AM

Re: Logan
 
I would rather eat a **** sandwich than watch Man of Steel again.

mark f 07-01-17 02:48 PM

Re: Logan
 
Rare or well-done?

Doolallyfrank 07-01-17 07:29 PM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1728961)
I'd take Man of Steel over at least half the X-Men movies (and especially over the likes of, say, the third and fourth Christopher Reeve movies), but that's just me.
Seconded

gandalf26 07-02-17 07:20 AM

Re: Logan
 
Superman 3,4 and Man of Steel are all just different flavours of turd. Superman 1,2 and Returns are all very good.

Doolallyfrank 07-02-17 11:28 AM

Re: Logan
 
I definitely didn't hate Returns, but it's below MoS for me

MovieMeditation 07-02-17 12:16 PM

Re: Logan
 
I watched Logan again, this time the Noir version...

I actually prefer that version, because I thought Logan overdid the R-rating "just because" and the violence was way too much and got really tiring after the fifth head fell off and the tenth head got impaled. Had I been 10 years old, maybe this would have been extremely cool... like Transformers. I wish they had build the violence up more gradually, so when Wolverine went berserk in the end, the violence would too, and it would have a greater impact. I also wish he hadn't already been fighting with Weapon X before the finale, because that kind of lowered it all for me. I understand it's supposed to have some emotional value because of what Weapon X did, but it didn't work for me.

Anyways, I like the downplayed story and the black and white fits the bleak and emotional atmosphere. I like Jackman and Stewart and their relationship and while the girl can be annoying she is a really good actress and has some great scenes.

The ending, the very last thing on screen, is the best thing about the entire movie. Perfect end to the character and the only thing that really got to me - not really in a really emotional way, but kinda like "okay, okay, that was clever. that was great"

I gave it a 2/5 on first watch and a 3/5 on a second. I doubt it'll ever get much higher than that, but it's watchable although I'm extremely split about the whole movie. It's not the movie I hoped it would be after that masterclass trailer, but it's better than another mainstream mess. I liked that they at least tried something different and dared to be dramatic and downplayed. Logan is an important film too for future R-rated films and superhero films and blockbusters in general. People also wanna see this type of film. We are not just sheep who love CGI. Even the mass audience hunger for more like this...

photowedding 07-04-17 06:13 AM

Re: Logan
 
‘Logan’s’ James Mangold to Direct ‘Disorder’ Remake for Sony

cat_sidhe 07-04-17 07:59 AM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by Doolallyfrank (Post 1729221)
Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1728961)
I'd take Man of Steel over at least half the X-Men movies (and especially over the likes of, say, the third and fourth Christopher Reeve movies), but that's just me.
Seconded
Thirded.

Ultraviolence 08-27-18 08:16 AM

Re: Logan
 
Ethan Hawke about LOGAN: "Now we have the problem that they tell us Logan is a great movie. Well, it's a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It's not Bresson. It's not Bergman. But they talk about it like it is. I went to see Logan cause' everyone was like, This is a great movie and I was like, Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie. There's a difference but big business doesn't think there's a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it."

I agree with every word.

https://movieweb.com/logan-movie-eth...erhero-movies/

Iroquois 08-27-18 08:40 AM

Re: Logan
 
Was that really worth the bump?

Siddon 08-27-18 08:45 AM

Logan is a great movie, while I respect Ethan Hawke and enjoy some of his films putting Bresson and Bergman in the same category is pretentious nonsense.



I am also so very thankful for these Super Hero movies as they've dramatically raised the bar from the popcorn flicks I grew up watching in the 90's.


The academy has lost a lot of respect from me over the years by failing to recognize these billion dollar quality films. PIXAR not having 2-6 BP Oscars right now is shameful.

Larry 08-27-18 08:52 AM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by Ultraviolence (Post 1942183)
Ethan Hawke about LOGAN: "Now we have the problem that they tell us Logan is a great movie. Well, it's a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It's not Bresson. It's not Bergman. But they talk about it like it is. I went to see Logan cause' everyone was like, This is a great movie and I was like, Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie. There's a difference but big business doesn't think there's a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it."

I agree with every word.

https://movieweb.com/logan-movie-eth...erhero-movies/
Same. I’ve seen it and it’s an ok film but a better superhero film. Nothing memorable other than some good violence which is not the norm.

Doolallyfrank 08-27-18 09:16 AM

Re: Logan
 
Originally Posted by cat_sidhe (Post 1730281)
Originally Posted by Doolallyfrank (Post 1729221)
Originally Posted by Iroquois (Post 1728961)
I'd take Man of Steel over at least half the X-Men movies (and especially over the likes of, say, the third and fourth Christopher Reeve movies), but that's just me.
Seconded
Thirded.
Fouthdided


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