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hell_storm2004 08-07-13 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by NBAluke579 (Post 935756)
I don't think Life Is Beautiful is bad. I dont think it mocks or treats the Holocaust as something funny either. Just a dad trying to protect his son's innocence. I do understand why some people might hate it though.I think Wall-E is pretty bad. I have no idea how it's rated so highly. It's pretty absurd. Same with Life of Pi,Harry Pooter:Deathly Hallows,etc. There are much better films that should be in the 250 list.Maybe over time those ratings will go down.
I doubt it... People are changing. More people now prefer modern day crap than classics. Just the other, few of my friends were of the opinion, "Why watch B&W films, when you can watch films in color." I should stick to my time, that was motto from them! Effin' hilarious!

Camo 08-07-13 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 936382)
Life Is Beautiful. Comedians sometimes wonder when its ok to joke about something. Ive never seen it because the holocaust should never be a backdrop for comedy. Never.

I was disappointed in The Departed but since it was based on true events Ill hold off saying its outright bad. It almost made this list though. I thought the ending came off hokey, but the meat of the film was great.

The Pianist. Another flick "cashing in" on the atrocities of war, but in this flick they were showcasing the horrors and gore (and Adrian Brodys performance was waaaaaay overrated).

Requiem For A Dream. Really? I mean is non-stop suffering just all-that when it comes to depth? Way overrated.

Im scrolling down the IMDb list as Im typing this, just waiting to see that P.O.S. The Thin Red Line. If I do, the spaz will commence. I dont see it, good.
Not seen the Departed yet, but i've heard it's very loosely based on Whitey Bulger and the winter hill gang. Just like Casino is loosely based on Tony Spilotro and Frankie Rosenthal's casino skimming in the 70's and 80's. Goodfellas is pretty much all true though except from some of the names, Iceman is nearly all bs.

MovieFan31 08-07-13 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by hell_storm2004 (Post 936385)
I doubt it... People are changing. More people now prefer modern day crap than classics. Just the other, few of my friends were of the opinion, "Why watch B&W films, when you can watch films in color." I should stick to my time, that was motto from them! Effin' hilarious!
There's nothing wrong with black and white films and to watch them like I do is to greatly expand both knowledge and appreciation of how this fantastic industry started. As for just watching colour movies, well, surely they'd see The Adventures of Robin Hood and Gone With the Wind, witness their 1930s greatness and then slowly start watching more classics, like black and white movies. Most young people today are also greatly mistaken when asked by experts what the first movies were, coming out with such insane answers like Star Wars and E.T!

hell_storm2004 08-07-13 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 936386)
Not seen the Departed yet, but i've heard it's very loosely based on Whitey Bulger and the winter hill gang. Just like Casino is loosely based on Tony Spilotro and Frankie Rosenthal's casino skimming in the 70's and 80's. Goodfellas is pretty much all true though except from some of the names, Iceman is nearly all bs.
Departed is strongly based on Mou Gaan Dou.

@MovieFan31: Well say it to them! I tried convincing them, that these bias opinion will never help them watch great films, but they would have none of it. Its like if you dont have mind blowing CGI and all the stuff packed in a movie, its just not a movie for many these days.

I argued about the color thing, but the years of their release put them off.

If i make them watch Anatomy of Murder, they would puke after 30 mins. No gruesome crime scene, no pulsating action, no high flying hero type action scenes. Just two lawyers fighting it out in court. Its just not the way people look at movies these days!

Camo 08-07-13 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by hell_storm2004 (Post 936400)
Departed is strongly based on Mou Gaan Dou.

@MovieFan31: Well say it to them! I tried convincing them, that these bias opinion will never help them watch great films, but they would have none of it. Its like if you dont have mind blowing CGI and all the stuff packed in a movie, its just not a movie for many these days.

I argued about the color thing, but the years of their release put them off.

If i make them watch Anatomy of Murder, they would puke after 30 mins. No gruesome crime scene, no pulsating action, no high flying hero type action scenes. Just two lawyers fighting it out in court. Its just not the way people look at movies these days!
I know it's a remake of Internal Affairs. I haven't seen it but have heard the characters are based on Whitey Bulger, FBI agent James Connoly and other winter hill gang members lke Steve Flemmi.

hell_storm2004 08-07-13 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 936402)
I know it's a remake of Internal Affairs. I haven't seen it but have heard the characters are based on Whitey Bulger, FBI agent James Connoly and other winter hill gang members lke Steve Flemmi.
That could be true.

honeykid 08-07-13 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by TONGO (Post 936382)
Life Is Beautiful. Comedians sometimes wonder when its ok to joke about something. Ive never seen it because the holocaust should never be a backdrop for comedy. Never.
I couldn't disagree more. There are no limits to comedy and nor should there be, IMO.

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 936402)
I know it's a remake of Internal Affairs.
No, it's a remake of Infernal Affairs. A remake of Internal Affairs would've been a very different film. :D

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Lucas 08-07-13 06:36 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
I think The Departed is slightly overrated yeah, but it's still a solid film. It did land scorsese's first best director oscar.

honeykid 08-07-13 06:40 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
That he should've already won a few times over.

LP Quagmire 08-08-13 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Daniel M (Post 936376)
I also agree that it's not scary and the film isn't a horror, the only scene I would see belonging in a horror film is the face ripping scene, if they decided to show it in a bit more graphic detail. But apart from that it's more a drama/detective time story, that like you say, could actually be a TV film. That's not to say I don't really like it though. I give it
, the same as Manhunter, which I know you love too, Cox's role as Lecter is one of the smaller parts of the film but Mann said he wanted to leave the viewers wanting more, it would have been interesting to see how things would have turned out if he had the part of Silence of the Lambs and whether the film would be held in such high regard as it us now.

Cox is a chilling Lecter because he's so believable.

LP Quagmire 08-08-13 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by honeykid (Post 935273)
I haven't ever seen Life Is Beautiful because I thought it'd be many of the things you mentioned. It's never looked or sounded like a film I'd like.
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL is wonderfully moving and a masterpiece -- check it out if you get the chance.

hell_storm2004 08-08-13 11:53 AM

Scorsese should have won for other films. But i guess the Oscar committee gave him the award for best collective effort, rather than Departed.

Nausicaä 08-08-13 12:53 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
few of my friends were of the opinion, "Why watch B&W films, when you can watch films in color."
You need new friends. ;)

hell_storm2004 08-08-13 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Nausicaä (Post 936883)
You need new friends. ;)
I need a few friends with a little intellect! :p

bluedeed 08-08-13 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by hell_storm2004 (Post 936385)
I doubt it... People are changing. More people now prefer modern day crap than classics. Just the other, few of my friends were of the opinion, "Why watch B&W films, when you can watch films in color." I should stick to my time, that was motto from them! Effin' hilarious!
The answer obviously being, you can get color anywhere, black and white is only in film.

Lucas 08-08-13 02:18 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
Batman Begins is so heavily overrated oh my god. That film's first half is fine, but man does it fall apart in the 2nd half. Your average cookie cutter,superhero plot with mediocre acting. How it's an 8.3 is beyond me. 7.3 is the reasonable rating.

Thursday Next 08-08-13 02:41 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
Is a 7.3 film 'legitimately bad', though?

mark f 08-08-13 03:41 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
No, it's very good.

hell_storm2004 08-08-13 03:44 PM

I dont know, i am a huge fan of the first part! For its the best of the lot.

But the series is so well made, all 3 combined make for a very powerful series!

Lucas 08-08-13 06:20 PM

Re: Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250
 
Begins isnt a bad film at all. its just nowhere near an 8.3. thats higher than films like blade runner, mulholland dr.,unforgiven and tied with 2001 lol.


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