Originally Posted by LeBoyWondeur (Post 2559902)
Gangsters, slave owners, nazis, serial killer cannibals....we have a fascination with monsters and it's as simple as that.
― H.L. Mencken, Prejudices First Series |
Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2559833)
More than anything, the GF reminds me of a lot of operas I've seen
Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2558469)
In that respect, that's where I thought that GF went wrong; it's an opera basically.
Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2558762)
The GF movies are like opera but without the singing.
Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2558810)
by making them into operatic characters
Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2558810)
the GF villains are far more operatic.
Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2558810)
Like operatic villains
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That summation just conjured up a very vivid image in my mind….
https://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-c...dler-opera.jpg |
Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2559790)
It would be nice if we got to a point that people could watch and enjoy a film like Gone With the Wind, without being accused of being soft or indifferent or straight up supporting of its racism. Because they aren't. At least not always.
And it would also be nice for people to be able to criticize the kind of past that Gone With the Wind shows (both in the time it was depicting as well as the time the movie was made) without people endlessly whining about virtue signalling, or believing this always means they themselves are being accused of being racists themselves. Because they're not. At least not always. The idiot streak goes pretty hard in both directions on this one, and because those people are always the loudest and most confident in their beliefs, they've ended up souring actual discussion for everyone. I think films are like time capsules that show contemporary thoughts and societies about subject matters for when they're made, and it's good to know the context of when a movie came out before watching it. I've never really thought a film has to reflect one's personal standards in order to be a good movie. I don't agree with the characters in Godfather. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad movie (I'll rewatch it and see if my opinion changes). Sometimes I hate characters, and then I dislike the movie because of that. It's really case-by-case. Maybe my pain is making my mental faculties not fire with much efficiency and quality to make my point clear. |
Originally Posted by I_Wear_Pants (Post 2559920)
I don't agree with the racism and slavery.
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Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2559922)
Bold!
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Originally Posted by I_Wear_Pants (Post 2559923)
I'm out here paving roads where previously only swamps festered.
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Originally Posted by I_Wear_Pants (Post 2559920)
...I think films are like time capsules that show contemporary thoughts and societies about subject matters for when they're made, and it's good to know the context of when a movie came out before watching it...
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2559934)
I watch a ton of old movies, I'm talking 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, 20s. I love seeing how things were way back in the day. Even though the films are fictional, the mannerisms, what was and wasn't socially accepted, the types of speech, interactions between men and women and people in general...all that fascinates me. One can get a sense of how society change by watching old movies. Not to mention one gets to see actual places frozen in time and held in suspension on film stock. Women's fashions were always changing, men usually wore a suit and a tie even if they were robbing the bank! And the cars, OMG I wish I had some of those old cars.
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Re: Is The Godfather the greatest American film ever made?
If you would've said 1947 it would've been a Star Trek thing:D
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2559943)
If you would've said 1947 it would've been a Star Trek thing:D
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Originally Posted by I_Wear_Pants (Post 2559944)
I thought about 1944 but thought I should go with a non-War year. I swear it was basically a random out-of-the-air number.
I'm trying to think of the last old movie I seen where the house decor was this really cool and funky early 1960s. |
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2559946)
I was just making a Star Trek joke, the number 47 comes up all the time in the older Star Trek TV series.
I'm trying to think of the last old movie I seen where the house decor was this really cool and funky early 1960s. I can't think of any off the top of my head, although I'm not super focused right now. |
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