Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
I think "Mystic River" is one of his better director-only movies. What did you think of it?
I want to discuss what you film literate folks think are Eastwood's main weaknesses as a director. I outlined some of what I see as those weaknesses that appear pretty consistently in his filmography, and would like to hear whether you all agree, whether you have others, whether you actually see some of the things I cited as weaknesses as a strength, etc. |
Originally Posted by AKA23 (Post 2243688)
I think "Mystic River" is one of his better director-only movies. What did you think of it?
I want to discuss what you film literate folks think are Eastwood's main weaknesses as a director. I outlined some of what I see as those weaknesses that appear pretty consistently in his filmography, and would like to hear whether you all agree, whether you have others, whether you actually see some of the things I cited as weaknesses as a strength, etc.
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Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
I think his last great film was American Sniper (2014), though The Mule was entertaining.
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Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
Citizen rules, why do you say that his main weakness is that he didn't retire years ago?
I think "American Sniper" was well done on a technical level, and as an entertainment, I think it delivers. However, it pales in comparison to "Letters from Iwo Jima." Sniper is a pretty jingoistic film that fails to present, even in a limited fashion, the negative consequences that resulted for the Iraqis from our occupation, or any complexity to the motivations or depictions of either the populace at large or the enemy characters that are featured. This was so different than what he did in "Letters from Iwo Jima" that I couldn't believe that Eastwood made both films. I couldn't understand why Eastwood chose to make a quasi-hagiography of Chris Kyle when the truth of his contributions to history are much more complicated and much less universally admired. "Letters" was imbued with a lot of nuance, and was made with an aim towards presenting the Japanese as the flip side of the same coin as the American soldiers, who sought to serve their own society in the same way the American soldiers did, from their perspective, and who had the same hopes, dreams, fears and commitment to their own country. It really expertly depicted the other side in a way which was very human, and that stands apart for me from many other films in the genre. Although I do think it successfully spotlighted the problem with PTSD and the psychological consequences that can emerge in those who are responsible for waging war, none of the complexity and humanizing aspects of portraying the enemy that was present in "Letters" was featured in "American Sniper." |
Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
Oh, I meant that his last film Cry Macho and The Mule weren't that great and so it would be a shame if his legacy ends on Cry Macho. So actually he needs to make one more film and knock it out the ball park. Agreed that Sniper & Letters are both a credit to his directorial skills.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2244180)
Oh, I meant that his last film Cry Macho and The Mule weren't that great and so it would be a shame if his legacy ends on Cry Macho. So actually he needs to make one more film and knock it out the ball park. Agreed that Sniper & Letters are both a credit to his directorial skills.
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Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
I thought this conversation thread fit better here, so continuing the discussion in this one.
Originally Posted by GulfportDoc (Post 2246039)
Could his judgement be less effective than it has been in the past? Sure. But I wouldn't say that poor judgement is the chief reason for a sub standard picture from him. |
Originally Posted by AKA23 (Post 2246247)
I thought this conversation thread fit better here, so continuing the discussion in this one.
What do you think is the reason for sub standard films from him in recent years then? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts! I think you are right that the reason he continues to work is because he enjoys making films, but why can he not choose better projects then, if its not his judgment? |
Originally Posted by GulfportDoc (Post 2246423)
Ya got me, AKA. Outside of the romance angle in this last one, it may be simply that there are very few stories with roles for a 90 year old man. If he does another one, I hope it's better material.
As always, I look forward to his next film as a director! I will always be pulling for him to do well. After seeing "Cry Macho", I doubt he'll act again though. |
One of my all time favorites. There are very few titles in his filmography that fall below average to me.
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Clint Eastwood in an episode of Maverick. These two will appear many years later in Space Cowboys. |
I reviewed the Clint Eastwood flick Tightrope back on the FIRST PAGE of this thread, especially the history of how he directed it but did not receive credit. It is Eastwood's most clearly Neo-Noir piece, along with Sudden Impact, and one of the titles in the current Neo Noir Hall of Fame.
Still an interesting flick, coming up on its fortieth anniversary. |
Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
Man, I haven't seen Tightrope in forever, and I barely remember it. As you said, it was kicking around a lot in the 80s on cable, so I saw it or pieces of it at various times, but was probably kicked out of the room once my mother tuned into the subject matter. Looks like it is available to rent on Apple TV, so I may have to fire it up, especially since it fits nicely into the neo-noir category/countdown.
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Originally Posted by Sedai (Post 2432440)
Man, I haven't seen Tightrope in forever, and I barely remember it. As you said, it was kicking around a lot in the 80s on cable, so I saw it or pieces of it at various times, but was probably kicked out of the room once my mother tuned into the subject matter. Looks like it is available to rent on Apple TV, so I may have to fire it up, especially since it fits nicely into the neo-noir category/countdown.
As a kid I found films like this and Bloodwork kind of confusing. It had the feel of a Dirty Harry film, but without the character. |
Re: Clint Eastwood the director, appreciation thread
Debut was very good (Play Misty For Me) but my favorite is "The Outlaw Josey Wales". He's the only American director left who's movies I will see, but only if he's in them, because "the leading man" seems to be dead.
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