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r3port3r66
05-08-04, 09:03 PM
Ever known one? You know the type: always talking about how a person put them into a position without any fault of their own? I usually just ignore them, but that's not to say I don't get sucked into what they're saying!

How is it that a person, with the facts spelled out to them, can theorize between reality and think they understand everything because the truth, to them, is wrong? Then again, many people who have questioned the truth have made a difference throughout history--and they have been right to do so!

Are conspiracy theorists crazy, or are they able to see what's really going on?

Yoda
05-08-04, 11:38 PM
Naturally, some are crazy, and some merely see something the rest of us do not. As a general rule, though, I think history shows us that most such theories (because there are probably thousands at any given moment) are nonsense. Of course, I'm sure there are many conspiraces that will always be regarded as bunk even if they're true, but I've little doubt that the overwhelming majority of them are untrue.

When trying to differentiate between legitimate suspicion and crackpot theory, I generally look at how elaborate the claim is. The more layers of explanation and rationalization it needs, the less likely I think it is to be true.

kaisersoze
05-09-04, 03:29 AM
I don't think that one or a party of people can fool everybody all time time. I like to entertain to fact sometimes in my head that maybe this conspiracy might be true or that one could be. But like Yoda has said I believe the majority of them are largely untrue... or that they are true but taken out of porportion.

cosmicdot
05-12-04, 01:31 PM
I'm proud of my tin foil hat ... they're more popular then ever these days ... like a geometry theorem or a detective in drawing conclusions: X is true; Y is true ... or ... we know they killed Kennedy, and we haven't gotten over it yet ...

I was trying to think of a psychological term which might fit better while meeting the criteria/behavior: delusional? psychopathic? paranoia? but, I guess the "everyone is out to get me" is a conspiracy theory ... but, in today's world, experience can provide postulates ... the good ol'boys are bad and do bad things to people ...

at some point in the timeline ... it could be in the eye of the beholder ... they're out to get me ... you're in left field ... they got him ... looks like they're coming for me, now ... yikes! ... they really are fascists ...

First the came for the _____; and, everyone said: you're crazy ...
they, next came for the _________ just coincidence ....

The historical background ... 'the times' ... might add perspective.

Guess there are a lot of things involved.

I'm seeing 2 different levels/scales ...

individual vs. group

I tend to relate with the latter ...

of course, I don't come equipped with all my marbles still in tact either... :p


Certainly no conspiracies here. All reasonably explained.

JFK, Jack Ruby, Hale Boggs, Warren Commission, CIA, Martin King, Malcom X, Bobby Kennedy, Abby Hoffman, FBI, John Lennon, Fred Hampton, Che, Contras, Iran, Echelon, John Jr., Osama, Touch screen voting, Nov.2000, 18,181, Skull & Bones, 9/11, Anthrax, Wellstone, NSA, Nov.2002, DLC, Saddam, WMD, Dr Kelly, Arnold.

Conspiracy theory

A conspiracy theory is the belief that historical or current events are the result of manipulations by one or more secretive powers or conspiracies. A conspiracy theory alleges that some particular event -- such as an assassination, a revolution, or even the failure of a product -- resulted not solely from the visible action of overt political or market forces, but rather from covert manipulation. Because conspiracy theories rely on allegations of covert action, they are frequently difficult to support with evidence. For this reason, the expression conspiracy theory is often used pejoratively to refer to allegations that the speaker considers unproven, unlikely, or false.


Table of contents
1 Real conspiracy versus conspiracy theory
2 Falsifiability
3 Subjects of conspiracy theory

3.1 Assassinations
3.2 Secret societies and fraternities
3.3 Suppressed technologies
3.4 Espionage agencies
3.5 Surveillance technologies
3.6 Diseases and epidemics
3.7 Anti-Semitic belief systems
3.8 Extraterrestrials
3.9 Religious prophecies

4 Conspiracy theory and urban legends
5 Conspiracy theory in fiction
6 Real life imitates conspiracy theory
7 The Bible and conspiracy theories
8 List of further conspiracy theories
9 See also:
10 External links
11 Elements

11.10 Assassination
11.11 Celebrity deaths


http://www.encyclopedia4u.com/c/conspiracy-theory.html#Real%20conspiracy%20versus%20conspiracy%20theory