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Sexy Celebrity
04-27-04, 02:54 PM
There isn't a thread for Kill Bill 2 already?

I loved the movie, but I think I like volume one more. Although....

The Bride Vs. Elle Driver scene was probably the funniest and best part out of both movies

That really isn't a spoiler, but for those who haven't seen the film, I don't want them to expect something going in.

The Silver Bullet
04-27-04, 09:03 PM
When Kill Bill Vol. 1 was released six months ago, I had to see it three times before I could even begin to appreciate certain parts of it. I disliked it that much. And yet, then, for some strange reason, I wrote a fairly gushing review about a whole heap of things that, frankly, I didn't really feel too convinced about [though my words may have suggested otherwise]. And I'm simply not going to give Vol. 2 the same chances. Nope. Sorry. That's it. Tarantino's had his chance and he's blown it. The first half was a film without a closure and thus deserved special consideration. The second half should do everything it doesn't. The Kill Bill cycle, now complete, is ultimately a very average movie.

I went into Vol. 2 with an open mind. Yeah, the first film had taken me by surprise and I'd had to realign my expectations [twice over] before I was able to play by its rules and [partially] enjoy what I was watching. This time, however, I went in knowing the rules beforehand, and this time, the film was actually unable to meet my expectations. All the Tarantino groupies [yes, Margaret Pomeranz (http://www.sbs.com.au/movieshow/reviews.php3?id=1323), I'm looking at you] who are aching to see the two volumes back-to-back are ultimately, I think, setting themselves up for quite the sizeable fall. I cannot imagine these two films being played in quick succession, as was originally the plan. How on Earth could Kill Bill have ever been conceived as a complete and unbroken film? There's no flow, no consistency, no neurons connecting the two disparate halves. In terms of energy, pace and storytelling, the "whole" is grossly uneven. The series' climax, for Christ's sake, is at the end of the first film! And yet some people think it's the greatest experience they've ever had in a cinema...

...so, what the Hell do I know?

LordSlaytan
04-27-04, 09:17 PM
...so, what the Hell do I know?Apparently, not much...except your own taste. That's usually good enough.

I, however, really liked Vol. 2. I had to drag myself to see the first one in the theater and found I enjoyed it enough, but I wasn't amazed by it either. Yet, when I saw Vol 2., I was enthralled. I like the fact that there's more character depth in this one and since it wasn't chock full of violence, the violence it did have resonated more. Carradine was a pleasure, the fight between The Bride and Driver was a brilliant one, and Thurman showed more chops with her acting than the first Volume would allow.

It's been awhile since I've seen Vol. 1, so I really can't say how well they will merge, and I have no idea if there was some creative editing that will be reversed when the volumes are sold together; I hope so. It's too bad you didn't care for it SB, but then again, you'll always have Paris.

Sexy Celebrity
04-28-04, 04:04 PM
I think they're better as two seperate movies. I'd like to know how The Bride got involved with all of this sword playing stuff, how she met Bill, etc. I heard something about an animated prequel...

The Silver Bullet
04-28-04, 08:34 PM
I've heard something about a thing called grotesque overkill.

Yoda
04-28-04, 08:46 PM
Volume 1: 4
Volume 2: 3_5

Maniac
04-28-04, 08:56 PM
Kill Bill was good to see how Quentin Tarantino is experimenting with his craft. But it's definitely not a winner for me.

The characters where too dry and too similar for me to care who lived and who died.
There was the occational overkill.

The only great character that i thought stole the show was that "Mei Pei" charater.

Other then that I was mildly thrilled. I thought there could have been alot more done to make the film a superior in Kung Fu films.

movieman373
05-02-04, 12:53 PM
personally I Think the movie is pretty good,not kill bill vol.1 good,but good never the less.I agree the characters are alittle shallow and could have been more in depth.The acting by uma was surprising when it came to the fight scences (especially the coffin scene).If you are a fan of the kung fu genre and tarantino style filmmaking then this is your movie.Even if you arn't this is still a good movie regardless of overkill (honestly what tarantino movie doesn't). 41/2 OF 5

James_Bond
05-02-04, 02:58 PM
PERSONALLY THE MOVIE WAS PRETTY GOOD NOT KILL BILL VOL.1 GOOD,BUT GOOD NEVER THE LESS.I AGREE THE CHARACTERS ARE ALITTLE SHALLOW AND COULD HAVE BEEN MORE IN DEPTH.THE ACTING BY UMA WAS HONESTLY SURPRISING WHEN IT CAME TO THE FIGHT SCENES (ESPECIALLY THE COFFIN SCENCE).IF YOU ARE A FAN OF THE KUNG FU GENRE AND A TARATINO FAN THEN THIS FILM IS FOR YOU.EVEN IF YOU ARN'T THIS IS STILL A GOOD FILM REGARDLESS OF OVERKILL (HONESTLY WHAT TARANTINO MOVIE DOESN'T HAVE ALITTLE). 41/2 OF 5

Next time don't write in capital letters, its hard to read.

The Silver Bullet
05-11-04, 02:36 AM
Next time don't write in capital letters, its hard to read.
Meanwhile, "it's" has an apostrophe, Nit-pick.

Nitro_69
05-11-04, 08:43 PM
o my the world is over

jrs
05-16-04, 01:32 AM
In case anyone has any unanswered questions or is puzzled with Kill Bill 2 go here (http://home.datacomm.ch/gamebuster/). I just found it and it is pretty cool. :D

Sedai
06-17-04, 12:27 PM
I just can't decide which I like better, I think it's II today :)

adidasss
05-08-05, 08:44 PM
an ancient thread an i've decide to revive it...both movies kick ass but the second one is better...i'm still recovering from that coffin scene...and uma thurman is the coolest most badass chick in flicks!!!

MovieFantick
05-09-05, 12:05 AM
[B]Hmm Okay it was okay.But not as much action as the first kill bill for sure.With all the blood gushing,heads flying and body blows.But I can say ya if u watched Kill Bill The first one then go out and see the last one.

nebbit
05-14-05, 05:42 AM
I actually liked both, a friend of mine watched them with me and he hated them both :rolleyes: :D

thegodfather15
05-29-05, 01:22 PM
One of the best of 2004

rikkidunbar
05-31-05, 01:29 AM
it's cool and you know it.

SamsoniteDelilah
05-31-05, 01:43 AM
I liked both of them a lot.
Tarantino creates a world with it's own morality, and then uses that structure to tell an emotionally satisfying story. It's fun visually, too. It's a one of the best popcorn flicks ever.

Tacitus
05-31-05, 06:21 AM
For me, the two Kill Bill's were a huge step backwards from Jackie Brown.

One for sorrow, two for joy....

RadeTagean
06-04-05, 05:35 PM
I think that the two films shouldn't be compared as really they are all just one film.

One thing I would like to see though would be the two volumes put into chronological order.

Might be good might be absolutely awful but still worth a watch.

Darth Stujitzu
06-07-05, 05:15 PM
Kill Bill 1 GOOD, Kill Bill 2 VERY VERY BAD!!!!! Tarantino on a huge ego trip, the worst equal with Jackie Brown. David Caradine's speech at the end was horrible, I would rather gouge my eyes with blunt teaspoons and then rub salt in them, than subject myself to this crap again. Most people either love it or hate it, I've even met people who prefer Vol.2!!!!

fireyhope
06-09-05, 05:01 PM
Kill Bill 1 GOOD, Kill Bill 2 VERY VERY BAD!!!!! Tarantino on a huge ego trip, the worst equal with Jackie Brown. David Caradine's speech at the end was horrible, I would rather gouge my eyes with blunt teaspoons and then rub salt in them, than subject myself to this crap again. Most people either love it or hate it, I've even met people who prefer Vol.2!!!!


ego trip? hell no Volume2 had a much better story then Volume1.
All volume 1 was Was a alot of action scenes which were mediocre btw and the japanese version was a hell of a lot better then the crappy american censored version.

fireyhope
06-09-05, 05:06 PM
Kill Bill was good to see how Quentin Tarantino is experimenting with his craft. But it's definitely not a winner for me.

The characters where too dry and too similar for me to care who lived and who died.
There was the occational overkill.

The only great character that i thought stole the show was that "Mei Pei" charater.

Other then that I was mildly thrilled. I thought there could have been alot more done to make the film a superior in Kung Fu films.

the movie isn't really a Kung Fu films it's a Martial Art film.
Samurai's are not kung fu, the thing is if you ever do watch old school kung fu flicks the charachters were always dry and also a bit overkill, thats how the style was back then with the shaw brother flicks. So in a way he was paying homage to the old school kung fu style directing ways. Not only that but also with the samurai flicks about honor and what not the charachters were good but you never really knew much of there past. i might be getting a bit ahead of myself but thats just how i see it. When you have a martial arts flick
just don't expect too much charachter developement.

Lester Burnham
06-11-05, 08:28 AM
Excellent movie, not quite as good as vol:1 and I was slighty disappointed by Bill's death having said that Kill Bill:vol 2 does feature one of the best bitch fights ever.
http://killbill.kvalitne.cz/galerie/kb2/7/large/2kb_7_7.jpg THURMAN VS HANNAH= BRILLIANCE

jrs
06-11-05, 04:47 PM
Excellent movie, not quite as good as volI was slighty disappointed by Bill's death

Would you rather see Live Bill instead? :laugh:

TheUsualSuspect
08-20-05, 08:36 PM
First of all let me just say that if you are going into this film to see the violence that Vol 1 had, you'll be disappointed big time, this movie is heavy on the dialogue, that being sad, that would have to be one of the weak points in the film, too many scenes where Bill and The Bride are just talking. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Tarantino Dialogue, I was laughing 50% of the time through the movie, based on the brilliant dialogue that Tarantino puts in everyone of his films. David (Bill) was awesome, he was perfect for the role, he IS BILL, no one else can play bill, he has the perfect voice, the perfect look, and the perfect humour for it, I loved every minute he was on the screen. Another character I loved every time he was on the screen....Pai-Mei (sp). He was great, awesome comic relief for an intense film, which leads me to my second disappointing part. NOT ENOUGH PAI-MEI, and what a ****ty way to die, this guy is the mother f*cking guy to kick your ass with his finger, this guy will f*ck you up, and he dies from food poison?? That was really lame for me, although the small amount of screen time he did have, was great.

This leads me into my third disappointment, the way Budd dies. Again at the hands of Elle (same as Pai-Mei) and she doesn't actually kill either of them (Budd=snake, Pia-Mei=poison) Come on b*tch, Budd was a great character and kicked some ass too, he has balls to bury her alive and we get to see no fight between the two? Which leads me into my final disappointment of the film, talking about fighting...no final battle between The Bride a.k.a Black Mamba a.k.a Mommy a.k.a Beatrix Kiddo. and Bill? As soon as he told her at the camp fire scene about the heart explosion, I knew that is how Bill would die and I wanted yo see some blood, but he just falls down, that all disappointed me. BUT!!! The movie is so good, that all that disappointment doesn't take the film down that much.

This movie felt more like a Tarantino movie than the first Vol did, and that's a good sign. The fight scene between The Bride and Elle was great, didn't expect the eye pluck part, then to top it off, she STEPS ON THE EYE (laughed me ass off when the question mark came up on her name in the credits). I felt bored at one scene, the talking of the fish dying, other than that, this film had me cheering for the Bride (and Budd for some reason). So see this flick not to see Vol 1's "orgy of blood", to finish the movie, see a great Tarantino flick and see some awesome acting.

9.5/10

cutter
08-20-05, 09:57 PM
I thought both were great. Part 1 was a complete shock to the system, but after about the first 30 minutes, your senses get numbed by the effect, and you get the gist of it, and just set back and hang on tight for this wild ride. It clearly shoed Tarentino's homage to the martial arts film genre. Consider it a live action anime.

Part 2 was great in that it tied up all those unanswered questions from Part 1. An animated prequel? Intriguing idea.