The MoFo 1990s Countdown pt II - Preliminary Thread

[Allaby]

Hide and Seek (1996) won't show up in the ballot tool. Is it not eligible?

[Citizen Rules]

Hide and Seek (1996) won't show up in the ballot tool. Is it not eligible?
Maybe try Hide & Seek
That might trigger the ballot tool to come up with the correct match.

[Allaby]

Maybe try Hide & Seek
That might trigger the ballot tool to come up with the correct match.

Good idea, but it still didn't come up.

[Citizen Rules]

Good idea, but it still didn't come up.Somewhere Yoda posted that if a movie didn't come up in the ballot tool that there was a way to enter information from TMDB 'The Movie Database' and that would then bring up the correct movie. But I can't remember exactly how that was done.

[Allaby]

Somewhere Yoda posted that if a movie didn't come up in the ballot tool that there was a way to enter information from TMDB 'The Movie Database' and that would then bring up the correct movie. But I can't remember exactly how that was done.

When I click on movie not showing up, I can enter the url for tmdb, and it shows the right movie, but when I click on yes, that's it, I get an error saying only films released between 2010-2019 are eligible.

[Citizen Rules]

When I click on movie not showing up, I can enter the url for tmdb, and it shows the right movie, but when I click on yes, that's it, I get an error saying only films released between 2010-2019 are eligible.Looks like a job for Batman...err I mean Yodaman!

[Allaby]

Looks like a job for Batman...err I mean Yodaman!

He did it! He saved the day!

[Captain Quint]

Well, yeesh, here I was giving answers in a PM that were already suggested here (I went direct to messages before coming to the pages). Do I have egg on my face - lol. Thanks, CR, for helping out while I was still snoozing.

And glad it got fixed and you were able to send it off, Allaby. (thank you Yoda)

And I'm glad to receive another list, I've been shaking the rust off, practicing dealing with ties and shifting positions on a practice top 30, in a private list. I know Yoda will have the graphics done, so that's one thing I don't have to deal with, but I'm testing other ideas on presentation. So, anyway - a new list gives me a chance to play with adjustments.

It's fun when it's fun!

[Robert the List]

What may I ask is the ballot tool???

[Captain Quint]

I think he just means this thingmabob where you rank and post your final list. It was included in the first post, but here it is again, for all the kids playing at home.

https://www.movieforums.com/ballot.php

[WrinkledMind]

Just checking.
The Last Seduction qualifies right? It had a TV release but was also released in theatres in some places.

[SpelingError]

I re-submitted my ballot since I accidentally included a few short films on it when I initially submitted it. I still think having no restrictions is the easiest way to go about these lists, but hopefully we can do a short film countdown sometime in the future.

[Robert the List]

I think he just means this thingmabob where you rank and post your final list. It was included in the first post, but here it is again, for all the kids playing at home.

https://www.movieforums.com/ballot.php
ooo, fancy. i like it.

[rauldc14]

We can resubmit? Maybe I'll submit a ballot now and then redo later if it changes?

[Captain Quint]

Special case, he had a couple that didn't fit the rules, so not a resubmit as much as a fix.

No redo's allowed. If your uncertain, wait to submit closer to the deadline.

[Holden Pike]

Here are three 1990s mostly-under-the-radar favorites of mine that have yet to make a MoFo countdown. They may well be shut out again, but all three are worth a look, whether it is in time for consideration on your ballot or just to add to a watchlist. It was only after I grabbed all three DVDs off my shelves that I realized subconsciously I'd chosen three with child protagonists...

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Set in contemporary New York City, it follows a 12-year-old kid named Michael whose street name is "Fresh" (Sean Nelson). He is very bright, but somewhat a victim of his circumstance. Living in a housing project, he can't help be affected by the drug trade and crime in the streets of his neighborhood. He is calm and smart enough that one of the local dealers is using him to sell some of his product, as his age protects him from some legal consequences, but he is not one of those who gets off on the power or danger, he is simply doing what he must to survive. His older sister has just become the favored plaything of the biggest dealer in the neighborhood, Esteban (Giancarlo Esposito), who is several levels above the dealer Fresh works for. Esteban notices his intelligence and cool, though doesn't employ him. Fresh's father (Samuel L.Jackson) no longer lives at home, but he sees him regularly playing chess in the park. His lessons on that game serve him well when, after a classmate is accidentally gunned down in another bit of senseless violence, Fresh begins to put a clever plan into action that pits all of the dangers in his world against each other.

From the advertising and title, I suspect many have avoided this one as yet another in the cycle of urban indie dramas that came out after Boyz n the Hood (1991). While it definitely plays in that same milieu, Fresh is something more, a sort of drugland Neo-Noir with a quiet but quick-witted character worthy of Dashiell Hammett who just happens to be a pre-teen, anchored by Sean Nelson's Oscar-worthy performance.

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Steven Soderbergh's King of the Hill (no, absolutely nothing to do with Mike Judge's animated series) also follows a street-wise kid, this time from an earlier era. Adapted from A. E. Hotchner's memoir and set in Depression-era St. Louis, Jesse Bradford stars as Aaron Kurlander, a very smart boy living in a residence hotel with his parents and younger brother. Aaron is doing well in school but being forced to grow up a bit faster than he'd like. His immigrant father (Jeroen Krabbé) is trying his best to string together jobs as traveling salesman or whatever else he can manage. His mother (Lisa Eichhorn) is ailing, and when she gets so bad she needs to go to a sanitarium the younger brother is sent to live with relatives and Dad hits the road, leaving young Aaron to fend for himself.

As more and more of the hotel's residents are locked out of their rooms and wind up in the growing shantytowns in the parks and alleys, Aaron must avoid the corrupt beat cop and the devious bellhop while finding enough food to live and keep from being evicted. He has his wits and a few allies, including an older kid from the building (Adrien Brody) who is getting by on small-time criminal schemes, a much older professorial type (Spauling Gray) who encourages his quest for knowledge, and a teacher (Karen Allen) who has recognized some of his struggles and all of his potential. Watching Aaron navigate it all is a sometimes harrowing but ultimately triumphant tale, and the tone never dives headlong into the melodrama, rather an insightful coming-of-age tale. Bradford is fantastic in the lead, and Soderbergh's narrative touches are vibrant and often beautiful.

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By far the darkest of the three, Neil Jordan's adaptation of Patrick McCabe's novel is a highly stylized and pitch-black comic look at a troubled young Irish boy named Francie Brady (Eamonn Owens). The story is told from his perspective, including a running voice-over from his older self, but he is an unreliable narrator due to the fact that he is very likely schizophrenic. Because of this he remains mostly upbeat and optimistic, even as his circumstances become more and more dire and his actions more and more devilish and brutal. Set in the small town of Clones in the early 1960s, as the story begins he has a mother and a father (Neil Jordan's favorite, Stephen Rea), but his homelife is far from ideal due to Da's drinking. Most of the townspeople seem to like or at least feel sorry for Francie, but one local, Mrs. Nugent (Fiona Shaw) is a bit of a busybody and both critical and fearful of him, and soon she is about the only target of Francie's growing anxiety and rage.

There are fantasy sequences with Sci-Fi bug heads, nuclear winter, and conversations with the Virgin Mary herself (Sinéad O'Connor). Francie has stints in a Catholic reform school and a mental institution, but he keeps finding himself back home, which sadly brings no respite from the collision course he is on with Mrs. Nugent. Very funny, very disturbing, very honest. Also featuring Brendan Gleeson and Milo O'Shea, love it or hate it I can just about guarntee you won't forget it.

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TRAILERS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxRaihTHjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHamua2ORRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdvtR8Hup4E

[Captain Quint]

Just checking.
The Last Seduction qualifies right? It had a TV release but was also released in theatres in some places.

In short, yes.

This was addressed earlier, but I'll repost for anyone who didn't see it.

No made for TV movies unless it had a theatrical release at some point in the decade. Things like The Snapper, and yes, Gotti, which was mentioned earlier, did have theatrical runs. The Last Seduction (1994) is another - it was intended for the big screen but was shown on TV to try and secure a deal, (unfortunately that action caused Linda Fiorentino to lose a much-deserved Oscar nom). But yeah, that's another that got a theatrical run and so is eligible.

No miniseries, no TV series, no shorts, are a few of the other restrictions. I'm zeroing in on feature length, big screen classics here.

[Holden Pike]

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John Dahl's The Last Seduction was the biggest sin of omission committed by our MoFo Top 100 Neo-Noirs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2443234#post2443234) list. Apparently MoFo - the MoFos who vote, anyway - prefers Dahl's previous entry Red Rock West. Preferences are preferences, but empirically, critically, and according to Mr. Noir Eddie Muller himself, The Last Seduction is the superior film. And it isn't even close. Definitely the most embarrassing miss, that list. If it didn't get enough votes THERE, where it was really built to strut its stuff, I can't believe it'll magically rise to the top in the second swing at the 1990s. We shall see.

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This video contains nothing but spoilers, so watch at your own risk if you want to enjoy it fresh, but it is an excellent analysis at why Linda Linda Fiorentino's Bridget Gregory is THE Neo-Noir Femme Fatale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgeCjHQ8MR8

[Robert the List]

I just found Antonioni and Wenders' Beyond the Clouds (1995).
Might prove it was worthwhile keeping my ballot up my sleeve just yet!

Edit: incredibly bearing in mind the 2 directors, it looks dreadful. Although I have just seen an entirely naked Sophie Marceau aged 29. Unsurprisingly she's got a gorgeous bum.

[mrblond]

He's watching for your ballots!

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[Robert the List]

He's watching for your ballots!

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I've not actually watched this for some reason.
Will give it a crack.
Needs to beat The Matrix from memory.

[Robert the List]

He's watching for your ballots!

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this is astonishing.

i'm gobsmacked that this was made in 1992 and isn't widely seen as a remarkable piece of film making.

[Wyldesyde19]

this is astonishing.

i'm gobsmacked that this was made in 1992 and isn't widely seen as a remarkable piece of film making.

The problem for me was much of the acting. Even Hopkins.

I think Oldman was the only actor I felt was good in it

[Robert the List]

It's Nosferatu meets Le Belle et La Bete meets Belle de Jour meets Django Unchained meets Moulin Rouge/Lurhman's The Great Gatsby.
I love it.
I don't think the acting's amazing, of course not Reeves', but I don't personally have an issue with it. I think it's alright. Hopkins is crap, but it's Hopkins. It's a (very) black comedy anyway.
I'm flummoxed by the film's low ratings.

[Captain Quint]

It's found its fans, but personally, I can't stand it.

[Robert the List]

It has to beat all of these to make it with me. I think it might, particularly if the increasingly dreadful Hopkins isn't involved much in the last 50 minutes:

Toto the Hero 1991 Belgium Jaco Van Dormael
The Scent of Green Papaya 1993 Vietnam Tran Anh Hung
The Shawshank Redemption 1994 USA Frank Drabont
Taste of Cherry 1997 Iran Abbas Kiarostami
The Matrix 1999 USA The Wachowskis

[Robert the List]

It's found its fans, but personally, I can't stand it.
I thought the first hour was genuinely brilliant.
Then it turned into a vampire version of Steve Coogan's Phileas Fogg Around the World in 80 Days.
I'd guess ran out of time or money or interest or all 3.

[Robert the List]

I've always been put off from watching Short Cuts because of the huge number of characters (same with Pret a Porter). I'm really enjoying it though (although there are too many characters for me, too much going on. The constant back and forth is making me feel a little sea sick).

There are definite directorial similarities with The Player (e.g. scripted dialogue fading into the background, soft score underneath dialogue, the telephone including crank callers, and quick/abrupt - or short - cuts).

I'm also getting kind of a cross between Woody Allen and Steven Martin.
I think it could have influenced Trees Lounge and also maybe Pulp Fiction. Maybe even E.R.

Not sure whether it's intentional, but it also serves (albeit notwithstanding the need to bear in mind that it's a work of entertainment fiction/satire) some insight into early 90s society e.g. sexism, general attitudes towards sex etc as well as sexual abuse. Board games!!! Sex phone lines!

Obviously a sensational cast. Everyone's so young! Anne Archer still extremely attractive at 47.

I love the dead body! That's a little stroke of genius!
Jack Lemmon's infidelity speech is also absolutely brilliantly written and delivered. That's outstanding.
The Julianna Moore one's also good. Very candid!!!!
Julianna Moore walking round with no underwear is a funny gag. Also the photo swap. And "you are currently experiencing an earthquake" lol.
I'm surprised at the heartbreaking hospital scene. Did not expect that in this movie.
There are too many characters though. I'd cut at least 25%. No 6 seconds scenes.
I mean, it's a slice of life I get that. But why stop at 24 people? Why not 240? 1,000? I'm not sure it adds much, and I don't think it's worth the loss of focus and lack of any significant plot.
But it's still a really good film with moments of brilliance. Lemmon's speech for me the high point.
And he ties it up really well, and I like the little injection of crazy at the end.
Very good movie.

[Robert the List]

You know, even for the 90s, which is one of my least favourite decades, limiting it to 25 films is tough.

[honeykid]

The problem for me was much of the acting. Even Hopkins.

I think Oldman was the only actor I felt was good in it

What do you mean 'even Hopkins'? After his Oscar for that OTT/silly pantomine performance in SotL, directors have been asking him to do it again in quite a few of the following Hollywood films. The 'big ones' anyway. You need to watch Shadowlands or The Remains Of The Day, films like that to get a 'proper' Hopkins performance after the Oscar.

[Robert the List]

None of the following are currently in my 25:

Miller's Crossing 1990
Edward Scissorhands 1990
Dances with Wolves 1990
Die Hard 2
Thelma & Louise 1991
The Silence of the Lambs 1991
Point Break 1991
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 1991
Barton Fink 1991
Unforgiven 1992
Reservoir Dogs 1992
Malcolm X 1992
Schindler's List 1993
The Fugitive 1993
The Puppet Master 1993
True Romance 1993
Jurassic Park 1993
The Shawshank Redemption 1994
Speed 1994
Forrest Gump 1994
Hoop Dreams 1994
The Lion King 1994
Muriel's Wedding 1994
Leon the Professional 1994 USA
The Usual Suspects 1995
Toy Story 1995
Casino 1995
Fargo 1996
Jackie Brown 1997
Boogie Nights 1997
Titanic 1997
Good Will Hunting 1997
American History X 1998
The Big Lebowski 1998 USA The Cohen Brothers
Being John Mal 1999
Fight Club 1999
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace 1999
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai 1999

OR (added)
Close Up 1990
Total Recall 1990
A Brighter Summer Day 1991
Toto the Hero 1991
Raise the Red Lantern 1991
JFK 1991
Baraka 1992
Glengarry Glen Ross 1992
Bram Stoker's Dracula 1993
The Scent of Green Papaya 1993
The Age of Innocence 1993
Braveheart 1993
Groundhog Day 1993
Legends of the Fall 1994
The Quick and the Dead 1995
Dead Man 1995
Heat 1995
Trees Lounge 1996
A Moment of Innocence 1996
Taste of Cherry 1997
Donnie Brasco 1997
Princess Mononoke 1997
Enemy of the State 1998
The Truman Show 1998
The Thin Red Line 1998
American Beauty 1999
Eyes Wide Shut 1999
Magnolia 1999



And I've just realised, I effectively only have 24 places, as I have a duty I can not really get out of, to give 1 point to a certain film which I hadn't considered.

[Robert the List]

There's some good British films to consider. I'd forgotten the first one listed which is excellent.

https://www.bfi.org.uk/london-film-festival/lists/10-great-british-films-1990s

[Citizen Rules]

None of the following are currently in my 25:

Miller's Crossing 1990
Edward Scissorhands 1990
Dances with Wolves 1990
Die Hard 2
Thelma & Louise 1991
The Silence of the Lambs 1991
Point Break 1991
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 1991
Barton Fink 1991
Unforgiven 1992
Reservoir Dogs 1992
Malcolm X 1992
Schindler's List 1993
The Fugitive 1993
The Puppet Master 1993
True Romance 1993
Jurassic Park 1993
The Shawshank Redemption 1994
Speed 1994
Forrest Gump 1994
Hoop Dreams 1994
The Lion King 1994
Leon the Professional 1994 USA
The Usual Suspects 1995
Toy Story 1995
Casino 1995
Fargo 1996
Jackie Brown 1997
Boogie Nights 1997
Titanic 1997
Good Will Hunting 1997
American History X 1998
The Big Lebowski 1998
Being John Mal 1999
Fight Club 1999
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace 1999
...Tentatively speaking 6 of those might make my ballot.

[Miss Vicky]

Tentatively speaking 6 of those might make my ballot.

There are at least seven that will be on mine.

[Wyldesyde19]

What do you mean 'even Hopkins'? After his Oscar for that OTT/silly pantomine performance in SotL, directors have been asking him to do it again in quite a few of the following Hollywood films. The 'big ones' anyway. You need to watch Shadowlands or The Remains Of The Day, films like that to get a 'proper' Hopkins performance after the Oscar.

Isn’t there a scene where Hopkins practically dry hump’s someone’? And he makes light of the situation throughout the film which falls flat (such as having to put Lucy to rest).
I get it was how his character was written but Hopkins couldn’t pull off such shenanigans.
I’m not a big fan of SoTL either, although I felt he was good in it.
I prefer him in Remains of the Day, Howard’s End, Amistad, and The Elephant Man.

[Robert the List]

There are at least seven that will be on mine.
A lot of good films in that list. Just no room!

[Robert the List]

Let's get some votes for this guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cndM_b_ftpw

probably the best soundtrack of all time (except for Trainspotting), and an exciting and romantic movie.

She was also genuinely an excellent actress. She's the best actor in the film by a mile and it's her first one. Total natural.
And although there are some terrible bits, and the whole plot is ridiculous, there are some bits where it's genuinely exciting, and some bits that give you the proper chills, and it's not actually that bad a movie. Or at least, it's the greatest rubbish movie ever made. And that counts for something. It will be in at least one ballot.

[Robert the List]

Opinions on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyMzeaQZx20

[Robert the List]

what movies from the 90s can bring a tear to peoples' eyes?
I can think of 3 maybe 4.

[Holden Pike]

what movies from the 90s can bring a tear to peoples' eyes?
Truly Madly Deeply (1991, Anthony Minghella)
Sommersby (1994, Jon Amiel)
The Bridges of Madison County (1995, Clint Eastwood)
Breaking the Waves (1996, Lars Von Trier)
The Sweet Hereafter (1997, Atom Egoyan)
The Straight Story (1999, David Lynch)
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[mrblond]

None of the following are currently in my 25:

Miller's Crossing 1990
Edward Scissorhands 1990
Dances with Wolves 1990
Die Hard 2
Thelma & Louise 1991
The Silence of the Lambs 1991
Point Break 1991
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 1991
Barton Fink 1991
Unforgiven 1992
Reservoir Dogs 1992
Malcolm X 1992
Schindler's List 1993
The Fugitive 1993
The Puppet Master 1993
True Romance 1993
Jurassic Park 1993
The Shawshank Redemption 1994
Speed 1994
Forrest Gump 1994
Hoop Dreams 1994
The Lion King 1994
Muriel's Wedding 1994
Leon the Professional 1994 USA
The Usual Suspects 1995
Toy Story 1995
Casino 1995
Fargo 1996
Jackie Brown 1997
Boogie Nights 1997
Titanic 1997
Good Will Hunting 1997
American History X 1998
The Big Lebowski 1998 USA The Cohen Brothers
Being John Mal 1999
Fight Club 1999
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace 1999
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai 1999

OR (added)
Close Up 1990
Total Recall 1990
A Brighter Summer Day 1991
Toto the Hero 1991
Raise the Red Lantern 1991
JFK 1991
Baraka 1992
Glengarry Glen Ross 1992
Bram Stoker's Dracula 1993
The Scent of Green Papaya 1993
The Age of Innocence 1993
Braveheart 1993
Groundhog Day 1993
Legends of the Fall 1994
The Quick and the Dead 1995
Dead Man 1995
Heat 1995
Trees Lounge 1996
A Moment of Innocence 1996
Taste of Cherry 1997
Donnie Brasco 1997
Princess Mononoke 1997
Enemy of the State 1998
The Truman Show 1998
The Thin Red Line 1998
American Beauty 1999
Eyes Wide Shut 1999
Magnolia 1999


Five films of this list are almost sure for my ballot. Three more bubbling under.

[MovieFan1988]

None of the following are currently in my 25:

Miller's Crossing 1990
Edward Scissorhands 1990
Dances with Wolves 1990
Die Hard 2
Thelma & Louise 1991
The Silence of the Lambs 1991
Point Break 1991
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 1991
Barton Fink 1991
Unforgiven 1992
Reservoir Dogs 1992
Malcolm X 1992
Schindler's List 1993
The Fugitive 1993
The Puppet Master 1993
True Romance 1993
Jurassic Park 1993
The Shawshank Redemption 1994
Speed 1994
Forrest Gump 1994
Hoop Dreams 1994
The Lion King 1994
Muriel's Wedding 1994
Leon the Professional 1994 USA
The Usual Suspects 1995
Toy Story 1995
Casino 1995
Fargo 1996
Jackie Brown 1997
Boogie Nights 1997
Titanic 1997
Good Will Hunting 1997
American History X 1998
The Big Lebowski 1998 USA The Cohen Brothers
Being John Mal 1999
Fight Club 1999
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace 1999
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai 1999

OR (added)
Close Up 1990
Total Recall 1990
A Brighter Summer Day 1991
Toto the Hero 1991
Raise the Red Lantern 1991
JFK 1991
Baraka 1992
Glengarry Glen Ross 1992
Bram Stoker's Dracula 1993
The Scent of Green Papaya 1993
The Age of Innocence 1993
Braveheart 1993
Groundhog Day 1993
Legends of the Fall 1994
The Quick and the Dead 1995
Dead Man 1995
Heat 1995
Trees Lounge 1996
A Moment of Innocence 1996
Taste of Cherry 1997
Donnie Brasco 1997
Princess Mononoke 1997
Enemy of the State 1998
The Truman Show 1998
The Thin Red Line 1998
American Beauty 1999
Eyes Wide Shut 1999
Magnolia 1999



And I've just realised, I effectively only have 24 places, as I have a duty I can not really get out of, to give 1 point to a certain film which I hadn't considered.

Only 6 movies on both lists have made my ballot list. I can't wait for this countdown to start :D

[Robert the List]

Only 6 movies on both lists have made my ballot list. I can't wait for this countdown to start :D
Yes, I must say I thought most people would have at least 15 from those selections.

Will indeed be very interesting to see the results, and (arguably even more so) peoples' full ballots in due course!!!

[Robert the List]

In response to my own question:
State of Grace 1990 (the score is superb)
The Bodyguard 1992
Saving Private Ryan 1998

and then maybe:
Il Postino 1994
Straight Story 1999

[gbgoodies]

None of the following are currently in my 25:

Miller's Crossing 1990
Edward Scissorhands 1990
Dances with Wolves 1990
Die Hard 2
Thelma & Louise 1991
The Silence of the Lambs 1991
Point Break 1991
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 1991
Barton Fink 1991
Unforgiven 1992
Reservoir Dogs 1992
Malcolm X 1992
Schindler's List 1993
The Fugitive 1993
The Puppet Master 1993
True Romance 1993
Jurassic Park 1993
The Shawshank Redemption 1994
Speed 1994
Forrest Gump 1994
Hoop Dreams 1994
The Lion King 1994
Muriel's Wedding 1994
Leon the Professional 1994 USA
The Usual Suspects 1995
Toy Story 1995
Casino 1995
Fargo 1996
Jackie Brown 1997
Boogie Nights 1997
Titanic 1997
Good Will Hunting 1997
American History X 1998
The Big Lebowski 1998 USA The Cohen Brothers
Being John Mal 1999
Fight Club 1999
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace 1999
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai 1999

OR (added)
Close Up 1990
Total Recall 1990
A Brighter Summer Day 1991
Toto the Hero 1991
Raise the Red Lantern 1991
JFK 1991
Baraka 1992
Glengarry Glen Ross 1992
Bram Stoker's Dracula 1993
The Scent of Green Papaya 1993
The Age of Innocence 1993
Braveheart 1993
Groundhog Day 1993
Legends of the Fall 1994
The Quick and the Dead 1995
Dead Man 1995
Heat 1995
Trees Lounge 1996
A Moment of Innocence 1996
Taste of Cherry 1997
Donnie Brasco 1997
Princess Mononoke 1997
Enemy of the State 1998
The Truman Show 1998
The Thin Red Line 1998
American Beauty 1999
Eyes Wide Shut 1999
Magnolia 1999



At least 9 of these movies might make my list, and 5 of these movies are probably locks for my list.

[gbgoodies]

what movies from the 90s can bring a tear to peoples' eyes?
I can think of 3 maybe 4.


Ghost (1990)
Paradise (1991)
8 Seconds (1994)
Mr. Holland's Opus (1995)
What Dreams May Come (1998)
Message in a Bottle (1999)

[Robert the List]

Captain Quint

I have a documentary in my ballot.
Is this permitted please?

I've noticed that the OP refers to "feature films", but am unclear on the/your definition of this. Documentaries are not mentioned in the summary description of films which are ineligible.

Cheers.

[Captain Quint]

You asked this before, and the answer was yes, unless it's a docuseries

If they're a feature length movie, with a theatrical release, they count. Miniseries such as, I don't know, the Beatles Anthology, or any type of TV docuseries, or shorts (40 min and under), no.

If you want to vote for Baraka or Hoop Dreams or any of the greats of the 90s? Of course, of course you can.

[Robert the List]

You asked this before, and the answer was yes, unless it's a docuseries
Awesome, thanks very much.
Apologies, I forgot!

[Deschain]

I have a tentative list, gonna take a couple days to mull it over before locking it in. Skimming back through this thread when building it I don’t think anyone mentioned The Blair Witch Project. Some consider it dumb and boring, some terrifying, but it’s a pretty important moment for horror and I don’t want it forgotten to be mentioned. :)

[Thursday Next]

There is no way to distill the awesomeness of the 90s into just 25 movies. Whatever I pick, I'll be leaving out two more that also deserve to be on my list. The complicating factor for me with this decade is probably the nostalgia...do I go for the blockbuster I watch six times on VHS in the decade itself or the art house gem I watched more recently? Can I really be objective about my feelings for The Crow? Or any of the films that were a formative part of teenage me's burgeoning love of movies? And what if memory is doing a lot of the heavy lifting? I watched a certain film that was near the top of my previous 90s ballot more recently and just didn't feel the love for it anymore. So that's out - but what about the others I haven't seen in decades?


Tldr: picking movies is hard

[Thief]

There is no way to distill the awesomeness of the 90s into just 25 movies. Whatever I pick, I'll be leaving out two more that also deserve to be on my list. The complicating factor for me with this decade is probably the nostalgia...do I go for the blockbuster I watch six times on VHS in the decade itself or the art house gem I watched more recently? Can I really be objective about my feelings for The Crow? Or any of the films that were a formative part of teenage me's burgeoning love of movies? And what if memory is doing a lot of the heavy lifting? I watched a certain film that was near the top of my previous 90s ballot more recently and just didn't feel the love for it anymore. So that's out - but what about the others I haven't seen in decades?


Tldr: picking movies is hard

I'm having the same issue in terms of trying to whittle it down to just 25. According to Letterboxd, I've seen over 600 films from the 90s. I decided to finally make a "preliminary" list of big favorites and worthy picks and ended up with 70. Now it's time to trim it down.

[Citizen Rules]

Damn it, only 23 days left until the deadline...Noooooo...I got so many more 90s films to watch:D

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I'm having the same issue in terms of trying to whittle it down to just 25. According to Letterboxd, I've seen over 600 films from the 90s. I decided to finally make a "preliminary" list of big favorites and worthy picks and ended up with 70. Now it's time to trim it down.

Yeah, it's difficult. I tried narrowing mine down as best I could and have already submitted my list. I had a few cuts on there I love, but I also approached it with balance too. For example... without giving two much away, there's a certain director that broke out in the 1990's who I am a big unadulterated shameless slobbering and bumbling idiot fanboy of, and I could have easily put each of the three films he made in the 1990's on my list, but for the sake of balance and variety I only included the one I believed to be his best on my list.

[gbgoodies]

I've been trying to narrow down my list, and I had it down to 43 movies, but then I rewatched some favorites that I hadn't seen in many years, and I'm back over 50 movies again. :frustrated:

[Captain Quint]

Damn it, only 23 days left until the deadline...Noooooo...I got so many more 90s films to watch:D

Meanwhile my brain is melting into goo wishing this would hurry up... 3 months is just too long for me. And the prelim presents some challenges not present when you have only a 2-week window.

(Sorry, I'm a "strike while the iron is hot" type of person, the waiting, as Tom Petty so eloquently put it, is the hardest part)

As to the trouble with 25, that wasn't the case with me. I've had a top 34 since day one, and it hasn't budged, and I don't think it will. But I had time, so I've sat and stared at it -from time to time. I think I'm simply not as much a 90s movie person, like I am a 50s or 60s person. Now those I'd have had a top 100 and anguished over each cut. But the 90s, piece of cake...

So can we hurry and just do it?

:)

[Captain Quint]

but for the sake of balance and variety I only included the one I believed to be his best on my list.

I have 3 directors, with 3 movies each... I'm completely out of balance; I threw balance right out the window.

[Citizen Rules]

Meanwhile my brain is melting into goo wishing this would hurry up... 3 months is just too long for me. And the prelim presents some challenges not present when you have only a 2-week window.

(Sorry, I'm a "strike while the iron is hot" type of person, the waiting, as Tom Petty so eloquently put it, is the hardest part)

As to the trouble with 25, that wasn't the case with me. I've had a top 34 since day one, and it hasn't budged, and I don't think it will. But I had time, so I've sat and stared at it -from time to time. I think I'm simply not as much a 90s movie person, like I am a 50s or 60s person. Now those I'd have had a top 100 and anguished over each cut. But the 90s, piece of cake...

So can we hurry and just do it?

:)One of the most important aspects of the Top 100 Countdowns is the watch period when many of us watch films in prep for our ballots and join group activities like The Group Watch and specific HoFs (though this time around there wasn't a specific HoF for the 90s decade). You're doing a fine job, hang in there!:D

[Captain Quint]

I once participated in a martial arts list, and aside from Lee and Chan and a few others, I didn't know squat, I went on a watch spree, about 20 some films in those two weeks, it was great, dizzying fun. I guess I'm not built for months long things like this, and I never like rules when I watch, so I avoid challenges, group watches like you have here, etc. I watch what I want to watch, when I want to watch. No rules, no waiting to submit a title, just get to it.

[Thief]

List will be for theatrical feature films only - no shorts (using Oscar rules, features must be over 40 minutes to qualify), no television series, no mini-series, and no made for TV movies unless it had a theatrical release


Re: made-for-TV movies with theatrical releases, does it matter where it was theatrically released? Say, it aired on TV in the US, but was theatrically released in other countries?

[Thief]

Ugh, I started to prepare my ballot but gave up halfway through. Will get back to it later, but it's incredibly hard. When I think about it, this is the decade where I've seen most films from, it was very formative for me in terms of how I watched films, my two favorite films are from this decade, and so are a lot of my Top 10 or Top 20... including my favorite comedies, my favorite western, my favorite documentary, my favorite animated film... Ugh!

[Captain Quint]

Re: made-for-TV movies with theatrical releases, does it matter where it was theatrically released? Say, it aired on TV in the US, but was theatrically released in other countries?

It's fine, hell, if it played in a theater on Mars and is allowed by the ballot tool (miniseries for one is a no) it's ok.

[Harry Lime]

The thing about the 90s is that anything was possible. It was that brief period after the fall of communism and before 9/11. In film there are some of the best blockbusters, independents, and international films of all time. Also I was a teenager in the 90s so it was the best. No nostalgia here. For your consideration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAH-0GKvIrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWAqPfxD7qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4SVSmSZW8

[Robert the List]

I'd not watched BJM after disliking it years ago, but in fairness it's decent.

[Deschain]

Ballot submitted. It's a very "me" list. :D

[Thief]

Ballot submitted also. I'm pretty happy with my picks, but I was really torn between three towards the end, so I had to make some choices. I also purposefully skipped a few that I truly love, but that I know won't need my help getting in, in favor of a couple of more obscure ones.

[Captain Quint]

And congratulations, Thief, yours is our 20th list!! Woo Hoo

(Now, how many of these should I expect to roll in, what's the average?)

And to give y'all a peak behind the scenes...
I've been working all night on designs for the reveal posts... and all of my 90's looking pieces were disasters (being an old Seattleite, I gave the flannel look, with grunge typography a go and... yikes), so I shifted gears to something more straightforward, but really, not very 90s.

Yoda might have better luck with it, but I did send him a sample of what I worked on. (I'm almost embarrassed about it, I spent hours on this, and the simple design is the best I had). We'll see what comes of it. But we have taken first steps in preparing for the coming countdown.

It's a coming!

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Yes, I really tried to turn this shirt into a banner of some sort.

[Little Ash]

Ballot submitted. My pool of movies I was decided through was 41 (though 1 of those was the ineligible Beau Travail). The bottom 30 felt a bit like just tossing them up in the air for deciding how to order them (and what got on).

[honeykid]

And what if memory is doing a lot of the heavy lifting? I watched a certain film that was near the top of my previous 90s ballot more recently and just didn't feel the love for it anymore. So that's out - but what about the others I haven't seen in decades?
This is where my method comes in. I've seen all the films I love from that decade, it doesn't matter if I watched them again and no longer liked them, as I'm not doing that. I'll just take the 25 from memory and bemoan the others I end up forgetting/having to leave out. See, it's easy. :D

[Citizen Rules]

...I've been working all night on designs for the reveal posts... and all of my 90's looking pieces were disasters (being an old Seattleite, I gave the flannel look, with grunge typography a go and... yikes), so I shifted gears to something more straightforward, but really, not very 90s...Oh you're from my neck of the woods. I didn't know you were from Seattle or is that you moved from Seattle? BTW I've been wearing flannel since the late 1970s:D It's a way of life in rural Western Washington.

[Captain Quint]

Oh you're from my neck of the woods. I didn't know you were from Seattle or is that you moved from Seattle? BTW I've been wearing flannel since the late 1970s:D It's a way of life in rural Western Washington.

I've been in and out of Seattle several times. I used to move around a lot, lived in various states, but always seem to find myself back there.

And yeah, heavy clothing, big beard - not a fashion statement, it just gets cold in the winters. (In the south I cut it all off, all the facial hair, shaved my head bald because the humidity was a bear)

[Thursday Next]

Ballot tool issue - a couple of 1999 films are unexpectedly showing as 2000 films and won't let me add them BUT if I then paste in the link from imdb it changes the year back to 1999 and it will let me add them. So...do we need to go strictly by the tmdb year and they are ineligible? If so, there is an issue with the ballot tool in that people adding films via imdb link might not realise they are ineligible.

[Captain Quint]

Ah gee whiz, really? I tested out the edge cases months ago and it refused to take those either from IMDB or TMDB, and today they are?

It's too late in the game to change it, ballots have arrived and we're just weeks away. So, stick with TMDB release dates per the rules and enter by titles - I'm going to PM you and get the movies you are trying and see if those were the ones I was testing, or if something else is happening.

Edit - I'll Yoda so he's aware. But I tested the ones I tested 3 months ago, and the tool still won't accept titles directly, but will via the way you described. I'll wait for your PM, see if they are the same ones I was testing or if this is a brand-new wrinkle.

Ah well, as the late great Gilda said...

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[Yoda]

Thanks for the heads-up. Off the top of my head I can't think of why or how that should happen, but I'll take a look today.

[Robert the List]

I got room for only 1 of these:

Edward Scissorhands 1990 USA
Double Life Of Veronique 1991 France Krzysztof Kieślowski
The Long Day Closes 1992 UK Terence Davies
Chungking Express 1994 Hong Kong Wong Kar-Wai
A Moment of Innocence 1996 Iran Mohsen Makhmalbaf
Trees Lounge 1996 USA Steve Buschemi
Taste of Cherry 1997 Iran Abbas Kiarostami
Straight Story 1999 USA David Lynch

[Yoda]

Gattaca - It probably won't make my list, but I think it deserves a spot in the countdown. It is thought-provoking and well acted, even if it drops the ball in some parts.
Seconding. I'm not seeing a lot of talk about this, which is really surprising. It's a great film with a lot of layered symbolism, and some deeply powerful metaphors. It's also the rare sci-fi cautionary tale that seems to be warning about a real, actually inevitable thing, on the medium-term horizon, rather than the usual thing where they extrapolate some current trend beyond all reason.

It's also the subject of one of the better podcasts (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1427021#post1427021) we did for the Movie Club back in the day.

Direct link on YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=qvZdVQg5Rto

[Thief]

I got room for only 1 of these:

Edward Scissorhands 1990 USA
Double Life Of Veronique 1991 France Krzysztof Kieślowski
The Long Day Closes 1992 UK Terence Davies
Chungking Express 1994 Hong Kong Wong Kar-Wai
A Moment of Innocence 1996 Iran Mohsen Makhmalbaf
Trees Lounge 1996 USA Steve Buschemi
Taste of Cherry 1997 Iran Abbas Kiarostami
Straight Story 1999 USA David Lynch

Ooof, I know I struggled with Double Life of Veronique as well. I know I had it on my short list and was on the chopping block, so to speak, towards the end but I don't remember now if it made the cut. Still, it definitely deserves to come up on the list. Powerful movie.

I didn't even remember The Straight Story when I made my list, which would've been a nice Lynch representation. I think it might still make the countdown, probably in the 80s-90s range, but I wouldn't have minded giving it an extra push.

[Holden Pike]

Just put up an extensive love letter to Joe versus the Volcano (1990) in my review thread Pike's Peak Picks (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1030044#post1030044)...

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Directed by John Patrick Shanley Screenplay by John Patrick Shanley Cinematography by Stephen Goldblatt Cast: Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, Dan Hedaya, Ossie Davis, Abe Vigoda, Lloyd Bridges, Robert Stack, Amanda Plummer, Barry McGovern, David Burton, Nathan Lane, Carol Kane
1990 / approximately 102 minutes

Joe versus the Volcano is a romantic fairy tale about the power of taking chances, an existential comedy with elements of high adventure and true love. Since its release it has seemed to be a divisive cinematic experience, transfixing some and angering others, but those of us who adore it have turned it into a beloved cult flick.

Tom Hanks stars as Joseph Banks. Joe has a truly lousy job, working in the advertising library of a large company that manufactures medical equipment. But that description doesn’t do it justice. It is a huge, dark, industrial plant, Joe one of the many shift workers slowly walking to their stations like zombies. Joe has an office off the plant floor, but it is not much more inviting than the industrial Hell around it. It is essentially a coffin lit by buzzing, blinking fluorescent lights. Joe has just three co-workers in his immediate area: the boss, Mr. Waturi (Dan Hedaya), a nameless male zombie, and a mousey secretary named Didi (Meg Ryan). Joe is even cut off from those folks in a dark room with exposed pipes and shelves. This is the so-called library that is his domain, mailing catalogs to potential customers and sales reps. He does have one item to try and personalize the space: an ornate little lamp he keeps squirreled away in a filing cabinet, with a dancing hula girl for a base and a colorful shade that spins to a tinkling lullaby.

CLICK THIS LINK (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2543960#post2543960) FOR MORE...

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[Thief]

That was a relatively recent watch for me and I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Surprisingly surreal, deep, and profound.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

OK ... I'm in. First one of these I've participated in. Very hard for me. My "all time favorite" list just goes to 20. Then there's my "5" movies in alpha order, my "4" movies in alpha, etc. Classic thing I dither over: Movie A is not a 5 but it's fun and we rewatch once or twice a year. Movie B is a 5, better artistically, but I don't have any motivation to rewatch. How do I order them? Usually Movie A first! Hope I'm not dragging down anyone's favorites!

[Citizen Rules]

OK ... I'm in. First one of these I've participated in. Very hard for me. My "all time favorite" list just goes to 20. Then there's my "5" movies in alpha order, my "4" movies in alpha, etc. Classic thing I dither over: Movie A is not a 5 but it's fun and we rewatch once or twice a year. Movie B is a 5, better artistically, but I don't have any motivation to rewatch. How do I order them? Usually Movie A first! Hope I'm not dragging down anyone's favorites!People decide what movies should go where by different criteria. But just know that your #1 movie will receive the maximum points possible which is 25. The more points a movie receives from the total of all list sent in, the better chance it has of making the countdown and placing higher than lower.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

People decide what movies should go where by different criteria. But just know that your #1 movie will receive the maximum points possible which is 25. The more points a movie receives from the total of all list sent in, the better chance it has of making the countdown and placing higher than lower.

Just in case I misled you: I did rank my top 25 for this countdown. I just mentioned the alpha order thing to reinforce that it's a challenge for me to do that sort of ranking. They're all "5" movies for me, so weighing "Chasing Amy" against, say, "Schindler's List" sometimes requires a quarter. ;)

[Captain Quint]

Two weeks to go, and ballots are starting to come in at a faster rate.

The ineligible movies issue has been corrected on Yoda's end - so just continue to use TMDB as your guide (they tend to go wide releases as their primary, so that can be where you find discrepancies. I prefer what they do, release wise, to how IMDB does it, and since the tool here is connected to TMDB, that's what I wanted to use as our ultimate decider. And this was established in the rules from day one - so this late in the game we'll stick to it)

Dates can be wishy washy sometimes, which is normally not an issue with a decade's list like this (95 or 96, who cares), unless it's on the edge, 1999 being the problem child here. We now have 4 of those.

[Captain Quint]

Oh, and to be clear, all existing ballots are good - I went through them as they arrived, and finished going through them again, just in case, and didn't find anything that doesn't belong there. If you sent a ballot, it's good, it's set, your gold.

[Citizen Rules]

What's Eating Gilbert Grape....vote for it! It deserves to make the countdown. If you haven't seen it, watch it, then vote for it.:)

[Thief]

What's Eating Gilbert Grape....vote for it! It deserves to make the countdown. If you haven't seen it, watch it, then vote for it.:)

I haven't seen it in decades so I didn't vote for it, but I remember liking it quite a bit. I'm sure it will make the countdown, though. 60-70 range maybe?

[Citizen Rules]

I haven't seen it in decades so I didn't vote for it, but I remember liking it quite a bit. I'm sure it will make the countdown, though. 60-70 range maybe?I should've campaigned hard for What's Eating Gilbert Grape?...weeks ago but like you hadn't seen it in decades and it was only the other night that I rewatched it and was impressed!

[Holden Pike]

I haven't seen it in decades so I didn't vote for it, but I remember liking it quite a bit. I'm sure it will make the countdown, though. 60-70 range maybe?
What's Eating Gibert Grape? didn't make it last time.

I find it far too maudlin in its sentimentality and the overall tone is just off, for me. Quirky for quirk's sake, but using real disabilities in service of pretty slight material. I thought Lasse Hallström missed on bringing it to life, but I find that true with just about all of his movies in that they're never real enough to involve me nor inventive or stylized enough to amuse me.

Depp had five films make the first 1990s list: Dead Man (#35), Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas (#46), Ed Wood (#49), Donnie Brasco (#72), and Edward Scissorhands (#96). Will What's Eating Gilbert Grape? rise to or above them this time? Possible, but it ain't gonna be easy, even just on the scale of films starring Depp.

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[Robert the List]

Without rechecking where they came last time, I'm going to predict the following results for the films in my ballot (my position followed by the MoFo 2025 chart position):

1. 94
2. 40
3. 15
4. -
5. 90
6. -
7. 95
8. 92
9. 52
10. 68
11. 10
12. 88
13. 75
14. 30
15. 6
16. 24
17. 99
18. -
19. -
20. -
21. -3
22. -
23. 70
24. -
25. 15

[Captain Quint]

Aside from My Life as a Dog, most of Hallström's work didn't leave much of an impression. Well, that and his Abba videos, now those were legendary. ;)

https://youtu.be/unfzfe8f9NI?si=5evz5rlWRETTiNcg

[Robert the List]

I have 12 American films, 4 Asian and 9 European.

[Thief]

Hmm, I wasn't really paying attention to whether the films I put in where American or not, but looking at it now, I only have two "foreign" ones (one from Spain, one from NZ). Apologies to the "foreign" crowd.

[Citizen Rules]

All 25 of my ballot movies are from the 90s:shifty:

[beelzebubble]

I have a list of 30 movies. Now comes the hard part. Which five do I get rid of?

[Thief]

90s Year Breakdown!

90 - 1
91 - 1
92 - 2
93 - 1
94 - 5
95 - 3
96 - 2
97 - 5
98 - 2
99 - 3

[Robert the List]

90s Year Breakdown!

90 - 1
91 - 1
92 - 2
93 - 1
94 - 5
95 - 3
96 - 2
97 - 5
98 - 2
99 - 3
90 4
91 4
92 3
93 2
94 3
95 1
96 2
97 1
98 2
99 3

[MovieGal]

Mine is

1990 - 0
1991 - 2
1992 - 0
1993 - 2
1994 - 4
1995 - 2
1996 - 4
1997 - 3
1998 - 5
1999 - 3

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I have a list of 30 movies. Now comes the hard part. Which five do I get rid of?

Pulp Fiction
The Usual Suspects
The Silence of the Lambs
Hoop Dreams
The Lion King

...you asked.

[Holden Pike]

My year breakdown: 1990 (3), 1991 (2), 1992 (1), 1993 (5), 1994 (2), 1995 (3), 1996 (1), 1997 (2), 1998 (3), 1999 (3).

Not at all surprised 1993 leads the way, for me. In addition to the five I chose, I had another four on my shortlist...and none of them are the two '93 titles that are likely getting the most collective votes.

[MovieFan1988]

Mine is:

1990- 1
1991- 2
1992- 0
1993- 3
1994- 2
1995- 6
1996- 4
1997- 1
1998- 5
1999- 1

[beelzebubble]

Pulp Fiction
The Usual Suspects
The Silence of the Lambs
Hoop Dreams
The Lion King

...you asked.
LOL This is not as helpful as you think. Only one of these is on my list.

[seanc]

1990 - 2
1991 - 1
1992 - 2
1993 - 1
1994 - 5
1995 - 5
1996 - 3
1997 - 2
1998 - 2
1999 - 2

[Holden Pike]

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There's another '90s flick up in my review thread Pike's Peak Picks (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1030044#post1030044).This time is is Clint Eastwood's A Perfect World (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2544837#post2544837) (1993).

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[John W Constantine]

I may or may have not had that on my ballot.

[Thursday Next]

Ballot finally submitted. It was tough making cuts at the end.

Reckoning of years (according to tmdb):

1990 - 1
1991 - 2
1992 - 2
1993 - 4
1994 - 3
1995 - 5
1996 - 1
1997 - 2
1998 - 2
1999 - 3

Foreign Language films: 8
Best Picture Oscar winners: 3
Most featured actors: Kate Winslet and Michael Wincott
Movies in common with my previous 90s list: 15
Movies likely to make the countdown: 13

[Robert the List]

i've got a top 13. and then a bottom 12.

[Captain Quint]

24 of my ballot entries come from Latvia... with one from Estonia.

[John W Constantine]

We need more ballots.

[Captain Quint]

Well, throw one in and that'll be one more than we had before.

The final week is fast approaching, and I expect they'll start popping in more frequently - and if experience elsewhere proves true here, the final day(s) flood will have me doing this...

https://youtu.be/DMnM_cQu6Fo?si=S3WXLH5BlSvIV1KD

[Citizen Rules]

Probably about that time to bug Yoda about putting up the banner on the MoFo pages:D

[Little Ash]

Oh, uh, statistics

1990 - 1
1991 - 3
1992 - 2
1993 - 1
1994 - 4
1995 - 3
1996 - 2
1997 - 4
1998 - 2
1999 - 3

Countries/Regions (mainly driven by director(s), since countries of a movie on a movie site means everywhere it was shot or got funding):
US: 13
Canada*: 2
Hong Kong: 3
Taiwan: 3
Japan: 2
Hungary: 1
Iran: 1

*: ?. Well, the director's Canadian, might have been an American film

Number of films, wthin a few days after submitting my ballot, I went, "actually, no. that shouldn't be on my list of best of the 90's, I should have put something else there instead": 1
It was my 25th spot, so I don't feel too bad about that.

[Robert the List]

We need more ballots.

**** the address. Pick up the phone right now, and give us your ****ing ballots.

[WrinkledMind]

It's not letting me add Home Alone
It's not showing up on the drop down list. So I added the IMDb URL, & pressed confirm but nothing is happening. Are Harry & Marv sitting there rejecting it? But on a serious note, please check.

[Captain Quint]

It's not letting me add Home Alone
It's not showing up on the drop down list. So I added the IMDb URL, & pressed confirm but nothing is happening. Are Harry & Marv sitting there rejecting it? But on a serious note, please check.

It's coming up for me with both the IMDB and TMDB urls - it takes the URL, shows the movie, and then when I click "yes that's it", it goes right through. Try one of these again, see what happens?

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/771-home-alone

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/

You should see this

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and then click on "Yes, that's it"

and it should pop right into your ballot

[Robert the List]

have you tried choosing a decent film?

[WrinkledMind]

Cheers Captain Quint it worked.

Ballot submitted. Have probably missed adding couple of films, which I will remember when they will show up in the 100 list.

have you tried choosing a decent film?
Well I did & both 'The Beach Babes from Beyond' & 'Bikini Carwash Company' got added smoothly.

[Robert the List]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWKc8sHHlE

[Captain Quint]

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[Harry Lime]

Beau Travail-less List submitted! It's messy, it's not perfect but it never would be. Meh it's what I sent in. Looking forward to the countdown.

[Miss Vicky]

Still watching movies and trying to finalize my ballot. It's looking like I might not end up voting for anything animated, which is unusual for me.

[SpelingError]

Can't wait for the countdown!

[Taz]

Is this still open, as it's only allowing me to do 1 entry,,, as in just 1 movie, wont allow any more to be added? Having tried submitting, but... am I doing something wrong?

[Citizen Rules]

So is the deadline midnight of April 2, 2025? If so what timezone are you using?

[Holden Pike]

Is this still open, as it's only allowing me to do 1 entry,,, as in just 1 movie, wont allow any more to be added? Having tried submitting, but... am I doing something wrong?
Definitely still open. Some technical issue Yoda can take a look, I am sure.

[Yoda]

Yeah, please PM me. And include specifics, IE: what device are you using, what style, exactly what steps you're taking, and the exact text of the error it's giving you and all that. Taz

[Tugg]

So is the deadline midnight of April 2, 2025? If so what timezone are you using?
"No longer accepting ballots" zone. ;)

[John W Constantine]

Can we get atleast 70 ballots?

[Captain Quint]

We'll get as many ballots as we get (says the philosophy major), and the Top 100 will be beautiful and lovely either way. I wouldn't worry over it... unless that's a countdown tradition (bringing up the ballot numbers). I appreciate what we have so far, it's looking good, people.

So, because I possess perfect timing, my brain has tuned to mush, I've caught... something - woke up very, achy and sleepy and dopey. I'll check in and go over the ballots, like I just did, but my heads full of cotton (you should have seen the typos in this post in original form), so if you have a techy question ask Yoda - hopefully I'll be right as rain sooner than later and be more attentive.

Time zone? I'm Pacific, so that's my targeted time - but does the ballot have an off switch? Like it ends when it says it ends.

I'll check back when I wake again to see what's what. Talk to you, lat-zzzzzzzz :sleep:

[Harry Lime]

80 ballots!

[MovieGal]

80 ballots!

Did you send yours in, Harry?

[Harry Lime]

You know it!


Pretty sure it was the best ballot submitted.

[Harry Lime]

Also, people, mofos, just send it in on April 1st. We're trying to get to 70 or 80 ballots and we don't need any timezone issues. The movie you were going to watch would have never made your list anyway. Unless it is Beau Travail. Which isn't even eligible anyway. It exists in limbo between two years, two decades, two centuries, and two millenniums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbrcxTkOPF4

[mojofilter]

I submitted my ballot.

Really tough to make.

When do we find out the results?

[PHOENIX74]

Ballot submitted....I had to leave one film out because it shows up here as a 2000 film even though on Letterboxd, the IMDb and Wikipedia it's 1999. Perhaps this was already discussed, and perhaps I should have been front and center to make my case or see if I could squeeze it in but I always simply want things to be simple and easy so I just scratched it off my list. Anyway - plenty of favourite 90s movies where that came from!

[Robert the List]

Can we get atleast 70 ballots?
I don't mind doing 10.

[Captain Quint]

When do we find out the results?

I have no clue - I'm new to this game. I'll have to figure out the ties and piece together a proper order, maybe a few days on my end. Yoda has to work his magic as well.

Someone with more experience would be able to answer that better than I can.

Ballot submitted....I had to leave one film out because it shows up here as a 2000 film even though on Letterboxd, the IMDb and Wikipedia it's 1999. Perhaps this was already discussed, and perhaps I should have been front and center to make my case or see if I could squeeze it in but I always simply want things to be simple and easy so I just scratched it off my list. Anyway - plenty of favourite 90s movies where that came from!

Yes, it's been discussed. We wound up with 4 edge cases that were on the 1999/2000 line, if the ballot rejected them, they were not eligible (TMDB, who we are connect to, was our final decider). So that was that.

Thanks for the ballot

And thanks for all the ballots that are pouring in, it's much appreciated.

[Little Ash]

My recollection is, it does take a little while, on the scale of probably two weeks to a month (I say, going off the horrible sense of time, without looking at the timestamps of recent countdowns for actual data points).


If someone is really curious how long past ones took, they can go find a recent previous pair of countdowns (prelim and actual countdown list), see when the deadline was from the prelim thread and then look at the date of the first reveal in the actual countdown.

[Citizen Rules]

The easy answer to how long it takes for the countdown to start once the ballot deadline is up, is here: Movie Forums: Movie Countdowns Archives (https://www.movieforums.com/community/Movie Forums: Movie Countdowns Archives)
You can tell at a quick glance how long the 'waiting' period was for past countdowns.

[Yoda]

The last few times, it's been roughly a week, which is entirely me scrambling to work on presentation stuff and not wanting to rush it.

I'll try really hard to get most (all?) of that done this weekend so the delay is shorter this time, but budget a week in your head and you probably won't be too disappointed.

[MovieGal]

Sedai do you have your list turned in?

[Sedai]

Sedai do you have your list turned in?

Not yet! ;)

[MovieGal]

Not yet! ;)

Come on Seds, get it done!

[ueno_station54]

i'd have had my ballet submitted by now if i wasn't seeing a movie that has a good chance of making my list on the big screen on the 1st lol.

[Fabulous]

Sent my list.

[Diehl40]

List submitted

[Omnizoa]

Haven't sent in mine yet, but been binging plenty of movies.

There are maybe 1-2 I still want to squeeze in a rewatch, and then maybe 3-4 from the original 90s Countdown's Top 20 that I should probably check out.

[KeyserCorleone]

Sent mine. I already had a list of over 25 100/100's for the 90's, so I didn't spend a lot of time watching other 90's movies. Since I've seen a good deal of them, I'll occasionally watch a new reveal to ensure a 50% average, maybe.

[Robert the List]

Pleased to confirm that the winning entry has now been received.

[Captain Quint]

Many ballots came in today, we are now over 40! Thanks for those.

I feel like sharing some behind the scenes info, so without any spoilers...

:popcorn: The toppermost have breached the 300-point barrier, and from my end, it's been fascinating watching a particular group of film battle for the top spot, back and forth they go with each ballot received.

:popcorn: The underdogs fighting for a spot on the 100 are the most interesting for me. I've been rooting them on, "Go Cool as Ice, go - you can do it!!" (ok, I'm not really rooting for Cool as Ice, but you get the point). Seeing as how I have so many underdogs on my list (so far, only one movie on mine has cracked the 100 pt mark) I have a vested interest.

:popcorn: There is one that has me floored, I thought it was guaranteed but so far, there's not much love for it. Each ballot comes in and I go looking for it and frequently come away with nothing. I don't know if its fans will give it a final weeks push, or if it's just not as beloved as I thought it was, but I feel like Adrian in Rocky III when Rocky and Apollo race on the beach, and she shouts, "Come on!" in slow motion, while making a "come on!" motion with her hand; but Rocky does not "come on", in fact he falls behind, the loser! It's all very dramatic and intense. ;)

[Little Ash]

The easy answer to how long it takes for the countdown to start once the ballot deadline is up, is here: Movie Forums: Movie Countdowns Archives (https://www.movieforums.com/community/Movie Forums: Movie Countdowns Archives)
You can tell at a quick glance how long the 'waiting' period was for past countdowns.

Ah yes, I always forget about the archives thread, except for when I don't. I'm just curious now on the stats for the 'wait' time for the countdowns I've been here for. You know, memory and the perception of time (I feel like there was one countdown that Yoda just had a lot of life stuff going on and that one took a while to get started. But let's see!)

(date formats in the American layout of MM/DD)

Comedies
Deadline: 6/2
First reveal: 6/20

Neo-Noir + Noir:
Dealine: 2/25
First Reveal: 3/5

War:
Deadline: 7/11
First Reveal: I didn't see the first reveal and I'm 8 pages in (skipped it? and the main list of movies link to the movie pages, not the reveal posts). But people are talking about seeing the 1 pointers on 8/7, which seems to indicate the countdown didn't start by that point, but who knows.

2010s:
Deadline: 12/12
First Reveal: 12/19

Musicals:
Deadline: 9/17
First Reveal: 10/4

Just putting it out there those who are patience-deficient amongst us can attempt to realistically set expectations and all (actually, I was just curious if my perception of time was skewed recalling how long some of them took to get started. Maybe I was just here for the batch that was disproportionately long).

[Little Ash]

If Captain Quint is feeling antsy and really wants to be doing more for the thread and is thinking of getting really silly with his free time, he can start preparing ridiculous hints for the movies that seem likely to be making it. I personally really enjoyed SpelingError's hints in the 2010 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=67312) one. No pressure on that front, obviously. They just went really all out on that (IMO).

ETA: I don't know how the behind the scenes work for people who hosted and prepared hints.

[Robert the List]

...

:popcorn: The toppermost have breached the 300-point barrier, and from my end, it's been fascinating watching a particular group of film battle for the top spot, back and forth they go with each ballot received.


I'm guessing that The Bodyguard is in this select group.

[Captain Quint]

Yes, but only if you live on the...

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[Captain Quint]

And guessing games, hints and such, fun idea, but not really my forte. When it comes to countdowns, I'm more like this guy.

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Facts and figures and stats are more my thing. So, I'm sitting here behind the screen with a stern look on my face wondering how I can incorporate graphs and charts. I tried one idea, but it wound up a flop (Aggregate critics scores, but at this level they're all pretty much on par, so the graph was mostly a straight line, lol).

I have one small idea that'll stick, and plans for stats at the very end, but otherwise, God knows. I think I need the final 100 in front of me, to stare at and ponder, and that'll provide a spark (I hope)

[gbgoodies]

Many ballots came in today, we are now over 40! Thanks for those.

I feel like sharing some behind the scenes info, so without any spoilers...

:popcorn: The toppermost have breached the 300-point barrier, and from my end, it's been fascinating watching a particular group of film battle for the top spot, back and forth they go with each ballot received.



And I'll be surprised if any of those movies fighting for the top spot will even be on my list.

[pahaK]

I have submitted my list. I didn't rewatch as much as I had planned, so the bottom half of my list is a little random.

STATS:

1990 - 2
1991 - 3
1992 - 2
1993 - 3
1994 - 2
1995 - 3
1996 - 0
1997 - 4
1998 - 4
1999 - 2

USA - 14
France - 3
Japan - 3
UK - 4
Russia - 1
Some films list many countries, but I'll give credit to the one mentioned first in Wikipedia.

I don't have an intentional 1-pointer this time.

[Yoda]

The next ballot received will push up to 50 even.

Keep them coming, this weekend/early next week is your last chance!

[Robert the List]

USA went up to 14 in mine in the end.
I also had:
Taiwan 3
UK 2
Italy 2
Ireland 1
Hong Kong 1
Greece 1
France 1

Apologies to Finland. Toss of a coin. What can you do?

Years:

90 2
91 5
92 3
93 2
94 3
95 1
96 2
97 2
98 2
99 3

[Robert the List]

Let's have some votes for The Bodyguard, Ladies and Gentlemen :up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl1qeaXm56o

[Robert the List]

Can I ask a different favour please?

Instead of voting for The Bodyguard (although do that too if you like!), splash out c$15 on The Durban Concert (Whitney Houston: A Concert For A New South Africa) and watch it on a big tv.

You'll be doing yourself a favour and having a great 2 hours, and you'll also understand what the fuss is about and what an incredible human being we had here on this earth during many of our lifetimes. :up:

[Captain Quint]

Break out the bubbly, we have our 50th list, from dadgumblah! Take a bow.

And a round of applause to you and everyone who got us to this point.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/67Dl905W9o52d7uU4Y_1Lw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyMDA7aD04MDU-/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2021-06/afaf91a0-c570-11eb-8ebf-cca592cc8fe5


If we're advocating for or campaign for votes, I'm going to toss in City Slickers (1991, Ron Underwood) as a film that I'm really pulling for to make the list. I have my doubts it will, but it's a great film, and I don't know if anyone has time left before ballots are due who hasn't submitted theirs to give it a watch. Or heck, even if you already have submitted your ballots and you still haven't seen City Slickers, it's certainly worth giving your consideration toward.

City Slickers was a HUGE success when it came out in 1991 and the 10th biggest box office draw of the year, making about six times its modest budget. It's a type of film that we don't see nearly enough of, especially today. Films about male bonding that aren't ridiculous action films or superhero films and aren't afraid to show real emotion, and I don't mean the type of stuff on the other end of the spectrum that's cliche emotion via the eyes of a female perspective where men go around crying and spilling their guys in therapy sessions. This film rings very true and authentic in a way that few films are.

Billy Crystal leads a great cast and plays a character who is just shy of 40 years old who is having a personal, family, and career crisis of midlife as he just lost creative control in his job as a seller of time to his radio station for ads to play. His buddies gift him a cattle drive vacation for his birthday where they can live out the adventures of their cowboy heroes of youth. Much of the story follows the pattern of two John Wayne movies, Red River and The Cowboys, but there are so many other western and film references in this too.

Jack Palance won his Best Supporting Actor Academy Award for the role of a life time and his grizzled and weather-worn over-the-hill cowboy is a perfect feather in the cap of a great and brilliant career. Today City Slickers is likely forgotten among most people under the age of 40 years old, but it's a great film. Even during its time and with solid critical and commercial reception, it still isn't the type of film that tends to be recognized among film aficionados and it's a long shot that it will ever end up on any Sight and Sound lists, but it's great non-the-less and it's actually one of the films in my top 100 of all time.

City Slickers is a rare-breed of film and a treasure of cinema that does celebrate film, the western genre, getting back to "the basics of life," and the value of male friendship. I don't know why it isn't more popular these days. It is full of sentiment, YES. Is it sentimental? NO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PunAKEccqyU&t=10s

[Robert the List]

I considered City Slickers and it's a film I used to enjoy a lot. When I started watching it back though I felt it wasn't up to the quality needed personally.

[gbgoodies]

If we're advocating for or campaign for votes, I'm going to toss in City Slickers (1991, Ron Underwood) as a film that I'm really pulling for to make the list. I have my doubts it will, but it's a great film, and I don't know if anyone has time left before ballots are due who hasn't submitted theirs to give it a watch. Or heck, even if you already have submitted your ballots and you still haven't seen City Slickers, it's certainly worth giving your consideration toward.


I'm still narrowing down my list so I'm not sure yet if City Slickers will make my final list or not, but I agree that it's a great movie and it deserves to make the countdown.

[Captain Quint]

I spoke about this one when the thread began... https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2525517#post2525517

And I think most people have their lists set in their heads - but if I could make a last push for a movie, and recommend a weekend watch, it would be for something elevated, like Maborosi - I wish films like these received more attention. And I know it's slow and won't appeal to all tastes but damn, it's a powerful, singular experience.

Gary Tooze at DVDBeaver (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/maborosi.htm) called it...

a film full of haunting images and almost deafening moments of introspection. Dealing with the subject of grief is quite a tricky balancing act in cinema, and the director pulls it off here beautifully.

I own the Milestone disc, and treasure it - but for a quick viewing it's also streaming online at one well known source, and Kanopy offers it as well.

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[Robert the List]

I spoke about this one when the thread began... https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2525517#post2525517

And I think most people have their lists set in their heads - but if I could make a last push for a movie, and recommend a weekend watch, it would be for something truly elevated, which is what Maborosi is - I wish films like these received more attention. And I know it's slow and won't appeal to all tastes but damn, it's a powerful, singular experience.

Gary Tooze at DVDBeaver (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/maborosi.htm) called it...



I own the Milestone disc, and treasure it - but for a quick viewing it's also streaming online at one well known source, and Kanopy offers it as well.

106585
Looks interesting.

[Citizen Rules]

4 more days until the deadline of April 2nd...and I haven't even started figuring out my ballot:eek:

[MovieMeditation]

Sent in my list...

[rauldc14]

My list is in finally too.

[Robert the List]

Looks like I've missed one in Maborosi. Look forward to giving it a watch.

He is an Ozu disciple. A lot of Late Spring in the first 35 minutes.

An hour in now. He's obviously a student of film history. The scenes are individual works of art. Masterful. I don't know if it's because I don't have good audio (don't have my earphones), but I'm finding the scenes to be a little isolated from one another. There are lingering shots, but also sharp cuts. As a result I'm not getting a flow of the emotional engagement. Still finding it beautiful though.

[Cobpyth]

List submitted!

[Laverc]

Yoda

Hey man... I'm sorry, I did not know the list was ranked... May I redo it, and resend it?

[gbgoodies]

4 more days until the deadline of April 2nd...and I haven't even started figuring out my ballot:eek:


I started working on my list a few days ago. I've got it narrowed down to about a top 40 right now, and loosely rated, but subject to change before finalizing.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

Another film I'm going to highlight is the criminally... and I mean criminally underseen and largely unknown Steven Soderbergh film King of the Hill (1993). I had seen this around 1994 or so, as a kid, when I checked it out from the Marion, Iowa Public Library, just on a complete whim, and I swear this film stuck with me for weeks and I couldn't shake it out of my head. At the time I was living in a tiny two bedroom 600-something square foot apartment, had a single parent, and we didn't have cable, so I cut my teeth on whatever was on the big four CBS, ABC, NBC, and PBS AND lots and lots and lots and lots of free VHS checkouts from the public library.

https://a.ltrbxd.com/resized/sm/upload/cu/za/kl/52/king-of-the-hill-1200-1200-675-675-crop-000000.jpg?v=c2a30fd376

To say I related to the main character, an eighth grader, who was two grades ahead of me and had to survive through poverty and trying circumstances with little more than his imagination, cleverness, and creativity is an understatement. To this day the film is still brilliant and touches me the way very few films do. King of the Hill would make for a great triple bill with two other coming of age downers, The 400 Blows and Germany Year Zero, but if anything it does show the resourcefulness of youth and trying to grow up in a cruel and impartial world.

I'm not using hyperbole or being exaggerative when I say that Jesse Bradford's portrayal of 13/14 year old Aaron based on the real life Great Depression coming of age memoirs of AE Hotchner in St. Louis is my absolute favorite child performance in all of film, period.

Everything about this movie just works and speaks to me and it comes together flawlessly. The supporting cast is just stellar, as Aaron survives and interacts to varying degrees of success and outcome with a rogue's gallery of who's who including Spalding Gray, Karen Allen, Adrien Brody, Joe Crest, and Lauryn Hill among others. The film is shot with a beautiful golden hour saturated hue of oranges, browns, and dust to capture the vibrancy of youth with the painstaking survival and uncertainty that was the Great Depression. Cliff Martinez's music is uniquely appropriate and spectacular and manages to be menacing and hopeful at the same time and he's gone on to work with Soderbergh in a total of 10 films, as well as scoring one of my favorites of the last decade, Drive.

King of the Hill, unfortunately... tragically... was a HUGE failure and only saw a box office of just over a million, but it was a bold post-sophomoric effort for Soderbergh who saw his stock skyrocket after the massive earthshaker that was Sex, Lies, and Videotape. I just love, love, love this film and I even showed it a couple times during my time teaching - particularly during a Debate season when our topic centered around poverty. It's one of my top 100 films, and I wish more people could see it or have access to it.

https://deeperintomovies.net/journal/image19/kinghill1.jpg

I kind of... kind of mind you, get why it might have failed. While it is a coming of age film and is very hopefully, it's pretty dark, especially those last 25 minutes or so just prior to the ending, so it doesn't really fit the mold of a kids movies. Adults on the other hand, barring taking their kids to films, aren't generally going to go flock to a film where the protagonist is 13 years old in a quasi art film. But whatever. What I don't get or understand is why it hasn't had a second life or been re-discovered, especially given the amazing career both critically AND commercially that Soderbergh has had. I would love for this film to enjoy its day in court and be recognized for the masterpiece it truly is and named alongside films like The 400 Blows and Germany Year Zero or even The Bicycle Thieves. Yes, it's that good, and if anyone still has their ballots out and can track this down in the next day or so, or find it on streaming anywhere, I'd highly recommend it.

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/3075-king-of-the-hill-alone-again

[Captain Quint]

Several of Soderbergh's pieces became impossible to find over the years, they seem to have slipped through the cracks of time. I was one of the rare ones who really adored Kafka, but a decade or so later, I couldn't find it for a rewatch (wanted to see if I was wrong about it, and the critics were right). Ages ago I heard he was working on a new cut of the film but have lost track of what became of that (if we get a new edit, I hope it includes the original theatrical).

Anyway, agree with you on KotH, I really liked that one, for me he started his career with 3 winning features (before taking a step back with his 4th, The Underneath). Thankfully King joined the Criterion Collection a few years ago, so at least that one can be rediscovered.

[Robert the List]

I need to watch Maborosi again in a more focused environment, but I'm sure it would make the top 10 in my ballot if I'd known about it.


Possibly top 5 which would put it in my greatest 100 films.


I suspect its the greatest Ozu other than Late Spring, which would but it above An Autumn Afternoon and Floating Weeds.


Pleased to have found it now, but what a shame nobody mentioned it earlier, before the final call for ballots. I've been sitting on my list (pretty much other than the order) for weeks without any films anyone mentioned really challenging so I thought I was safe to submit.

[CosmicRunaway]

4 more days until the deadline of April 2nd...and I haven't even started figuring out my ballot:eek:
I am also nowhere near as prepared as I thought I'd be to narrow down my shortlist.

There are a lot of films I feel like I should rewatch in order to be confident in where I rank them, but with so little time left I really need to figure out which ones to prioritise... which is easier said than done.

There is one film in particular that I would rank very high on my list, but I haven't seen it in many years and am actually worried that I might kind of hate it now. I know I should watch that one for sure, but I also don't want to break that nostalgic bubble it currently lives in haha.

[Yoda]

Yoda

Hey man... I'm sorry, I did not know the list was ranked... May I redo it, and resend it?
I'll PM you.

[Little Ash]

I need to watch Maborosi again in a more focused environment, but I'm sure it would make the top 10 in my ballot if I'd known about it.


Possibly top 5 which would put it in my greatest 100 films.


I suspect its the greatest Ozu other than Late Spring, which would but it above An Autumn Afternoon and Floating Weeds.


Pleased to have found it now, but what a shame nobody mentioned it earlier, before the final call for ballots. I've been sitting on my list (pretty much other than the order) for weeks without any films anyone mentioned really challenging so I thought I was safe to submit.


Since Maborisi is from the 90s and is Kore-eda (After Life, Shoplifters, Nobody Knows"), An Autumn Afternoon was Ozu's final film (1962), I think I'm a little confused by the bolded. Did you simply get confused or were you comparing the film to an Ozu film?


*: the fact these are the first Kore-eda movies I listed does correctly imply I failed to follow his career for a pretty long stretch.

[Little Ash]

For anyone wishing to pronounce it out loud though, I'm about 99% certain that they didn't follow the usual convention for romanizing Japanese and it should have been "Maboroshi", as I don't think the pronunciation of, "si," like it would be in Spanish, is in Japanese.


/useless knowledge

[Robert the List]

Since Maborisi is from the 90s and is Kore-eda (After Life, Shoplifters, Nobody Knows"), An Autumn Afternoon was Ozu's final film (1962), I think I'm a little confused by the bolded. Did you simply get confused or were you comparing the film to an Ozu film?


*: the fact these are the first Kore-eda movies I listed does correctly imply I failed to follow his career for a pretty long stretch.
Yes it is a painstaking reproduction/imitation of an Ozu film. And a masterful one at that.

Draws in particular on Late Spring and Floating Weeds.

[Captain Quint]

Kore-eda's often compared to Ozu, mostly because of Still Walking (lot of pillow shots in that one I believe), but his actual inspiration is Naruse (in interviews he's always pushing back again the Ozu thing and makes clear it's Naurse who was his muse, so to speak) With Maborosi (and I did recommend the movie months ago and noted this), it actually feels closer to Mizoguchi, in the way he avoids emotional close-ups and stays to the long and medium shots, very Mizo in style.

[MovieFan1988]

It seems like we have out beaten the old 90's countdown list (2013) while it only had 54 ballots, let's try to beat the other decades :). I say it's going to beat out the 50's, 60's and 80's lists and beat 2000s by like a few more ballots. I'll be shocked if we get over 100 ballots :D:D

The MoFo Top 100 of the 1970s: Countdown
99 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 2010s Countdown
98 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 2000s Countdown
88 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 60s: Countdown
85 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the Fifties: The Countdown
67 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 80s: Countdown
62 ballots submitted

The MoFo 1990s Countdown (2025) - 59 Ballots so far

The MoFo Top 100 of the Nineties Countdown
54 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the Forties: The Countdown
57 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 1930s: The Countdown
45 ballots submitted

[Citizen Rules]

I am also nowhere near as prepared as I thought I'd be to narrow down my shortlist.

There are a lot of films I feel like I should rewatch in order to be confident in where I rank them, but with so little time left I really need to figure out which ones to prioritise... which is easier said than done.

There is one film in particular that I would rank very high on my list, but I haven't seen it in many years and am actually worried that I might kind of hate it now. I know I should watch that one for sure, but I also don't want to break that nostalgic bubble it currently lives in haha.Ed Wood? I remember you really liked that movie. I did just rewatch that after many years and still really liked it. It's a lock for my ballot.

[Robert the List]

Captain Quint


Well he loses a lot of credibility in my eyes then because it's a blatant reproduction of Ozu (and I'd never heard that said by anyone else, it's just blindingly obvious from watching the film). If he says 'yes it's a tribute to Ozu I hope I did him justice' then all respect to him because he did do him justice (or would have done). But if he denies it and claims Ozu didn't even influence him then shame on him for that because it just makes it a rip off, even if a very skillful one.

[Captain Quint]

He does praise Ozu, and you can see it (inspiration) in Still Walking, but Naruse man, it's (blinding obvious?) he was primarily inspired by Naruse and Ken Loach.

There are similarities in the two directors (Ozu and Naruse) so it's easy to see why folks would gravitate to the more well know and wider seen Ozu when reaching for comparisons.

Akira Kurosawa is oft quoted for described Naruse’s films as being like "a deep river with a quiet surface disguising a fast-raging current underneath". That's present in Kore-eda as well, whereas Ozu is a bit gentler, even in conflict - there's a lot boiling under the surface in Maborosi, a lot of that Naruse fast-raging under current.

[Citizen Rules]

It seems like we have out beaten the old 90's countdown list (2013) while it only had 54 ballots, let's try to beat the other decades :). I say it's going to beat out the 50's, 60's and 80's lists and beat 2000s by like a few more ballots. I'll be shocked if we get over 100 ballots :D:D

The MoFo Top 100 of the 1970s: Countdown
99 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 2010s Countdown
98 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 2000s Countdown
88 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 60s: Countdown
85 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the Fifties: The Countdown
67 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 80s: Countdown
62 ballots submitted

The MoFo 1990s Countdown (2025) - 59 Ballots so far

The MoFo Top 100 of the Nineties Countdown
54 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the Forties: The Countdown
57 ballots submitted

The MoFo Top 100 of the 1930s: The Countdown
45 ballots submittedImpossible to beat the number of ballots that Holden Pike got for the 1970s countdown, I'm sure he put maximum effort into getting those ballots in. Impressive.

[CosmicRunaway]

Ed Wood? I remember you really liked that movie. I did just rewatch that after many years and still really liked it. It's a lock for my ballot.
It's not Ed Wood. I saw that within the last few years and I don't get the feeling that I would feel differently about it now, so that one's safe.

I was referring to Princess Mononoke, which I don't think I've seen in about 25 years. Given how much I dislike many of Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli's films, I'm not sure I want to revisit it.

Might be wiser to use my very limited time to watch a couple films I haven't seen before.

[Citizen Rules]

It's not Ed Wood. I saw that within the last few years and I don't get the feeling that I would feel differently about it now, so that one's safe.

I was referring to Princess Mononoke, which I don't think I've seen in about 25 years. Given how much I dislike many of Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli's films, I'm not sure I want to revisit it.

Might be wiser to use my very limited time to watch a couple films I haven't seen before.I can relate, I rewatched a number of old beloved movies that I had only seen once and many years ago and to my disappointment some of them I no longer really like. Of course some like Ed Wood still scores high with me.

[seanc]

I need to watch Maborosi again in a more focused environment, but I'm sure it would make the top 10 in my ballot if I'd known about it.


Possibly top 5 which would put it in my greatest 100 films.


I suspect its the greatest Ozu other than Late Spring, which would but it above An Autumn Afternoon and Floating Weeds.


Pleased to have found it now, but what a shame nobody mentioned it earlier, before the final call for ballots. I've been sitting on my list (pretty much other than the order) for weeks without any films anyone mentioned really challenging so I thought I was safe to submit.


Nobody on movie forums should have to be to told to watch a Kore-eda film before making a list. ;) Hopeful Maborosi makes it, but not overly optimistic.

[MovieFan1988]

Impossible to beat the number of ballots that Holden Pike got for the 1970s countdown, I'm sure he put maximum effort into getting those ballots in. Impressive.

With 2010 having 98 ballots and only needed 2 more ballots to beat the 70's, I can say it's not impossible, you just never know will have to see ;).

[Citizen Rules]

With 2010 having 98 ballots and only needed 2 more ballots to beat the 70's, I can say it's not impossible, you just never know will have to see ;).I think the host of the 70s and 2010s sent out PM reminders to vote, I haven't gotten a PM reminder this time around and I think that will be the deciding factor in the total number of ballots received. I guess we'll see though:p

[Miss Vicky]

I had hoped/intended to watch more movies before I voted but some things have come up that mean I probably won't be able to get more watches in and I didn't want to forget so I voted this morning. My ballot ended up looking a bit different than I thought it would when we started.

[Captain Quint]

Nobody on movie forums should have to be to told to watch a Kore-eda film before making a list. ;) Hopeful Maborosi makes it, but not overly optimistic.

Bless you (and I did talk about it back when this was a newborn baby thread, but apparently when I open my mouth to speak, all people hear is Peanuts adult speak)

https://youtu.be/ss2hULhXf04?si=r6JnEDpbjNClohgU

But I tease (I'm not that self-pitying, sometimes though, I wonder) ;)

I think the host of the 70s and 2010s sent out PM reminders to vote, I haven't gotten a PM reminder this time around and I think that will be the deciding factor in the total number of ballots received. I guess we'll see though:p

PM reminders... pshaw, aren't we all grown adults who live in the computer age and should know how to get notifications on deadlines? Come on!

Oh, okay, I did send out reminders, but you've been pretty actively involved so you and others like you, who've recently posted about their lists, didn't get one.

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I can't sleep (clown will eat me?) so, I've been working on the intro, going over things with Yoda, looking at this (shhh, it'll be a surprise) that Holden Pike sent in (looks nice, I think I can use it - thanks) and staring at the ballots, checking them twice (some are naughty, some are nice)

I think that's why I can't sleep, too many thoughts rolling around in my skull

It's almost here, just a few measly days, so compile those lists, don't delay, the deadline is right around the corner!

[Robert the List]

He does praise Ozu, and you can see it (inspiration) in Still Walking, but Naruse man, it's (blinding obvious?) he was primarily inspired by Naruse and Ken Loach.

There are similarities in the two directors (Ozu and Naruse) so it's easy to see why folks would gravitate to the more well know and wider seen Ozu when reaching for comparisons.

Akira Kurosawa is oft quoted for described Naruse’s films as being like "a deep river with a quiet surface disguising a fast-raging current underneath". That's present in Kore-eda as well, whereas Ozu is a bit gentler, even in conflict - there's a lot boiling under the surface in Maborosi, a lot of that Naruse fast-raging under current.

To be clear, I wasn't "reaching for comparisons".
I was pointing out that the film I had just watched was a carbon copy of an Ozu.

In particular:

-the static camera, as pioneered by Ozu
-the 3d like depth on the shots as pioneered by Ozu
-most notably the composition of the shots which could not be more of a copy of Ozu without having everyone sitting at the dinner table in Kimonos and Yukutas
-the harbour scene is a carbon copy of the harbour scene in Floating Weeds
-the lone bicycle is a reference to the two bicycles in Late Spring
-strongly featuring trains
-focus on family

[Citizen Rules]

...Oh, okay, I did send out reminders, but you've been pretty actively involved so you and others like you, who've recently posted about their lists, didn't get one...Good to hear! You'll probably get a rush of ballots on the last couple of days. I'll be sending mine in soon.

[Captain Quint]

To be clear, I wasn't "reaching for comparisons".
I was pointing out that the film I had just watched was a carbon copy of an Ozu.

In particular:

-the static camera, as pioneered by Ozu
-the 3d like depth on the shots as pioneered by Ozu
-most notably the composition of the shots which could not be more of a copy of Ozu without having everyone sitting at the dinner table in Kimonos and Yukutas
-the harbour scene is a carbon copy of the harbour scene in Floating Weeds
-the lone bicycle is a reference to the two bicycles in Late Spring
-strongly featuring trains
-focus on family

Granted Ozu's in there, and a lot of people zero in on that (Ebert's review) to the extent that this is ALL they focus on. Let's not forget that Ozu was himself influenced by Hollywood - his early films are peppered with nods to other people's features, movies posters show up on the walls and such - he even drew from "Make Way for Tomorrow" for "Tokyo Story". So, inspiration is drawing from inspiration and so on and so on. There's a long thread connection one source to the others which finds its way into Maborosi.

Mizo's in there (long angle camera shots), Hou's in there too.

The lone bicycle comes from "El Sur", as does the dark lighting, and the frame within a frame bits (specifically having a character look through a window), but he's not just doing shot by shot mimicry - inspiration - a favorite moment, yes, but with differences (I just watched the harbor scenes on both films, and saw similarities, but not a carbon copy)

That said, it is, in his words, a collection of scenes inspired by others. He's gathering favorite moments from a variety of sources.

Maborosi was my first feature. And I think it's a patchwork of scenes I really liked from films by Eric Rohmer, Theo Angelopoulos, and Victor Erice. Maborosi, for me, gathers favorite images from my favorite directors, though I paid close attention to its style and techniques.

And focus on family? Who hasn't done that, remember, the screenplay is an adaptation of a novel, the story elements come from that - the ubiquitous train that both foreshadows and calls back (brings back to memory) a key plot point, comes from Miyamoto, not Ozu.

I'll concede that Ozu is there - but it's wrong to deny what Naruse meant to him, you can feel it in interviews when he speaks of the man's pictures and how important they were to him and his own work.

Good to hear! You'll probably get a rush of ballots on the last couple of days. I'll be sending mine in soon.

Looking forward to seeing it, you've mentioned several titles, but I wonder which ones will make the final cut?

[ueno_station54]

i'd have had my ballet submitted by now if i wasn't seeing a movie that has a good chance of making my list on the big screen on the 1st lol.
caught the flu so this isn't happening lol but my ballot is now submitted. bummed that but i'm a cheerleader can't be picked :(

[Yoda]

59 ballots, covering 501 movies! Keep 'em coming in!

[Citizen Rules]

Working on my ballot right now

[Robert the List]

Granted Ozu's in there, and a lot of people zero in on that (Ebert's review) to the extent that this is ALL they focus on. Let's not forget that Ozu was himself influenced by Hollywood - his early films are peppered with nods to other people's features, movies posters show up on the walls and such - he even drew from "Make Way for Tomorrow" for "Tokyo Story". So, inspiration is drawing from inspiration and so on and so on. There's a long thread connection one source to the others which finds its way into Maborosi.

Mizo's in there (static camera, long angle camera shots), Hou's in there too.

The lone bicycle comes from "El Sur", as does the dark lighting, and the frame within a frame bits (specifically having a character look through a window), but he's not just doing shot by shot mimicry - inspiration - a favorite moment, yes, but with differences (I just watched the harbor scenes on both films, and saw similarities, but not a carbon copy)

That said, it is, in his words, a collection of scenes inspired by others. He's gathering favorite moments from a variety of sources.



And focus on family? Who hasn't done that, remember, the screenplay is an adaptation of a novel, the story elements come from that - the ubiquitous train that both foreshadows and calls back (brings back to memory) a key plot point, comes from Miyamoto, not Ozu.

I'll concede that Ozu is there - but it's wrong to deny what Naruse meant to him, you can feel it in interviews when he speaks of the man's pictures and how important they were to him and his own work.



Looking forward to seeing it, you've mentioned several titles, but I wonder which ones will make the final cut?

I must have missed where I requested your appraisal of my response to the film.

I don't know where you get off to be honest. I've responded to a film by, amongst other things, pointing out that to me it was a recreation of an Ozu film.

I didn't do that to seek your approval, I did it because that's how I felt about the film.

That wasn't "wrong" at all, and I didn't "deny what Naruse meant to him" as you appear to contend.

If you got down off your high horse for a moment and put down your assumption that you know better than everyone else (or at least than me) then it would make for more enjoyable and civilised conversation.

Yes I agree that Hou, particularly Cafe Lumiere (his homage to Ozu), also has similarities with this film. That's what not stood out for me though, it was - as I've said before you deigned to jump in to purport to (invalidly) correct me - the overwhelming similarity to Ozu.

The bicycle is from Late Spring.

[Captain Quint]

I thought we were in in a forum where the purpose is to discuss film? Weird, I was having an enjoyable debate, an exchange of ideas, I guess I didn't read the temperature of the conversation very well. Sorry I upset you.

Let's steer this back to the ballots and such, fair?

[Captain Quint]

I originally had this as one post, but let's break them in two

Just wanted to get it out there again, to make sure y'all go over the rules, refresh your memories of what's eligible or not, etc.

One thing I've learned, and I probably should have understood this long before, is that doing a prelim with a 2-week window is a lot different than a prelim month's in the making. Members might be coming into the thread only towards the end, and I certainly understand not wanting to plow through pages and pages of conversation.

As host I should have done a better job of understanding that and posted rules reminders and such more frequently than I have. My only defense is that I'm new and had my own set of ideas on what I wanted this to be, primarily a theatrical features countdown (the no shorts rule for one, seems to be a sticky point, were shorts allowed in past threads? I don't know, but to me shorts and miniseries have their own identities, so I excluded them - I think a shorts Top 100 would be great, BTW)

But I'm picking it up - I noted the tradition of posting 1-pointers near the start of a countdown and posting reveals 2 at a time, once a day (in previous experiences elsewhere, I've done 2 in the morn, 2 at night, for example). The PM reminders, etc.

You've been patient with me by not acting like gatekeepers (as some fandoms and social media sites can), letting me find my way, and gently making suggestions. I appreciate that.

So, thumbs up to y'all.

But I can't wait to get past the prelim and start the countdown and see what that's all about, what kind of discussions are had.

[Little Ash]

As host I should have done a better job of understanding that and posted rules reminders and such more frequently than I have. My only defense is that I'm new and had my own set of ideas on what I wanted this to be, primarily a theatrical features countdown (the no shorts rule for one, seems to be a sticky point, were shorts allowed in past threads? I don't know, but to me shorts and miniseries have their own identities, so I excluded them - I think a shorts Top 100 would be great, BTW)

I'm sure Holden will come up with a number of examples (because he remembers or looks up a lot of these), but off my head, yes, shorts were allowed in past threads (but not tv series, so I don't recall mini-series or limited time events or whatever Twin Peaks: The Return was classified as, as ever being allowed). He'll probably be able to give a sense of how often that was the case.

Animated films: It's Such a Beautiful Day (the full trilogy as it was released as one film) was 60 minutes. I think World of Tomorrow ep 1 (a short, not a mini-series) also made the countdown, I think (or at least, it was on my ballot) and was 20 minutes. Maybe it only made my ballot.

Musicals: The Burden was #83 (I had to google "what's the nordic short film with the depressed singing mice" to remind myself what the title was. I remember Tak really likes that one.). That's a 15 minuter.

[Captain Quint]

Thanks, yeah, I went by Oscar's rules, 40 min and under for shorts. Anything above that was fine.

And I'll file that info away in my memory banks if I ever do one of these again... in the distant future.

[Citizen Rules]

I originally had this as one post, but let's break them in two

Just wanted to get it out there again, to make sure y'all go over the rules, refresh your memories of what's eligible or not, etc.

One thing I've learned, and I probably should have understood this long before, is that doing a prelim with a 2-week window is a lot different than a prelim month's in the making. Members might be coming into the thread only towards the end, and I certainly understand not wanting to plow through pages and pages of conversation.

As host I should have done a better job of understanding that and posted rules reminders and such more frequently than I have. My only defense is that I'm new and had my own set of ideas on what I wanted this to be, primarily a theatrical features countdown (the no shorts rule for one, seems to be a sticky point, were shorts allowed in past threads? I don't know, but to me shorts and miniseries have their own identities, so I excluded them - I think a shorts Top 100 would be great, BTW)

But I'm picking it up - I noted the tradition of posting 1-pointers near the start of a countdown and posting reveals 2 at a time, once a day (in previous experiences elsewhere, I've done 2 in the morn, 2 at night, for example). The PM reminders, etc.

You've been patient with me by not acting like gatekeepers (as some fandoms and social media sites can), letting me find my way, and gently making suggestions. I appreciate that.

So, thumbs up to y'all.

But I can't wait to get past the prelim and start the countdown and see what that's all about, what kind of discussions are had.For someone who's never seen a countdown before hosting one, I'd say you're doing an excellent job. You seem to be on the ball and your rules makes sense to me. I for one never liked the idea of short films being allowed as in some of the decades countdowns we ended up with a number of Lonney Tunes cartoons which by no stretch of the imagination are movies. Same with miniseries they aren't movies. The MoFos know well enough to read the 1st post of any countdown for the rules and guidelines, which you wrote out quite nicely. I think this is going to be a really fun countdown!

[Robert the List]

I thought we were in in a forum where the purpose is to discuss film? Weird, I was having an enjoyable debate, an exchange of ideas, I guess I didn't read the temperature of the conversation very well. Sorry I upset you.

Let's steer this back to the ballots and such, fair?
OK fair enough.

And I do respect your film knowledge and also your writing on film.

Thanks again for highlighting the film.

[Laverc]

I'll PM you.
:
Thanks, Ive re-sent my new list just now.

[Miss Vicky]

I for one never liked the idea of short films being allowed as in some of the decades countdowns we ended up with a number of Lonney Tunes cartoons which by no stretch of the imagination are movies.

I prefer to leave it up to the community and let them vote based on how they think things should go. If enough MoFos think Duck Amuck is one of the best films of the 1950s and vote for it (which they did), then it belongs on the list as much as something like On the Waterfront.

Something like that is likely to only make it onto the bottom half of the countdown anyway, which usually includes some unexpected entries.

[stillmellow]

59 ballots, covering 501 movies! Keep 'em coming in!


That's a surprising number of movies. I thought most lists would be pretty similar, but with the same movies in a different order. A lot of outliers in there.

[Yoda]

That's a surprising number of movies. I thought most lists would be pretty similar, but with the same movies in a different order. A lot of outliers in there.
Yeah there's always a surprising amount of stratification. I think the #1 film is always on a minority of ballots, sometimes like 1/5th or 1/6th of them.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

That's a surprising number of movies. I thought most lists would be pretty similar, but with the same movies in a different order. A lot of outliers in there.

There's soooo many films in the 1990s, maybe more releases or prominent and art house releases than other decades? Who knows? Hong Kong alone had so many great films before it was taken over again by China, so I think there's so much out there available from the 1990s. Only 10 of my picks made the original countdown, so it doesn't surprise me at all to see 500 individual entries.

[rauldc14]

59 ballots, covering 501 movies! Keep 'em coming in!
If every single person picked a different movie it would be 1475. So yeah 501 is quite a bit! I'm thinking 2 or 3 of mine will have me as the solo voter.

[Robert the List]

Yeah there's always a surprising amount of stratification. I think the #1 film is always on a minority of ballots, sometimes like 1/5th or 1/6th of them.

:eek:

[Holden Pike]

Yeah there's always a surprising amount of stratification. I think the #1 film is always on a minority of ballots, sometimes like 1/5th or 1/6th of them.
That can't be right.

[John W Constantine]

number of ballots for the winner of each of these countdowns:

ATR: 31
FOR: 22
2000: 39
COM: 37
2010: 32
WAR: 45
NOIR: 48
NEOIR: 29
MUSIC: 34

[Holden Pike]

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Looking at the #1 on the most recent MoFo Lists, Singin' in the Rain was on 34 of the 52 Musicals ballots (67%), Neo-Noir Chinatown was on 29 of the 47 ballots (62%), for Noir Double Indemnity was on 48 of the 57 ballots (84%), and for War Films Apocalypse Now was on 45 of 57 (79%). I do see that on the 2010s list Parasite was on just 32 of 98 ballots (33%) and for the 2000s No Country for Old Men was on 39 of 88 (44%), but I would put that more on the recency of the decades, that an as-firm-consensus has not yet built up. Going back to the two lists I hosted, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was on 57 of the 67 ballots for Westerns (85%) and The Godfather was on 66 of 99 for the 1970s, and fifty of those were top ten votes. Absolutely no doubters.

I expect there is still enough of a consensus on the 1990s that whatever rises to the top will be on a majority of ballots. But we'll know soon.

[Yoda]

That can't be right.
I think I overstated a little (I also meant to refer to the top 10 rather than just the top film, whoops), but right now the top films on this countdown are < 50%. They were at something like < 30% before the last rush of ballots, as recently as a couple of weeks ago. Though maybe that's down to some kind of weird bias among voters who submit early/not late?

[Yoda]

I like your theory that it has more to do with recency/decade lists. In which case, the admittedly preliminary results for this one seem to be holding to that pattern.

[Robert the List]

I like your theory that it has more to do with recency/decade lists. In which case, the admittedly preliminary results for this one seem to be holding to that pattern.
I struggle to believe that less than 50% of people have voted for The Bodyguard.

[Robert the List]

I originally had this as one post, but let's break them in two

Just wanted to get it out there again, to make sure y'all go over the rules, refresh your memories of what's eligible or not, etc.

One thing I've learned, and I probably should have understood this long before, is that doing a prelim with a 2-week window is a lot different than a prelim month's in the making. Members might be coming into the thread only towards the end, and I certainly understand not wanting to plow through pages and pages of conversation.

As host I should have done a better job of understanding that and posted rules reminders and such more frequently than I have. My only defense is that I'm new and had my own set of ideas on what I wanted this to be, primarily a theatrical features countdown (the no shorts rule for one, seems to be a sticky point, were shorts allowed in past threads? I don't know, but to me shorts and miniseries have their own identities, so I excluded them - I think a shorts Top 100 would be great, BTW)

But I'm picking it up - I noted the tradition of posting 1-pointers near the start of a countdown and posting reveals 2 at a time, once a day (in previous experiences elsewhere, I've done 2 in the morn, 2 at night, for example). The PM reminders, etc.

You've been patient with me by not acting like gatekeepers (as some fandoms and social media sites can), letting me find my way, and gently making suggestions. I appreciate that.

So, thumbs up to y'all.

But I can't wait to get past the prelim and start the countdown and see what that's all about, what kind of discussions are had.

From one noob (newbie) to another, looks like you're doing a fine job.

[Miss Vicky]

I struggle to believe that less than 50% of people have voted for The Bodyguard.

I would be surprised if more than a handful of people voted for it, and that’s being generous. I doubt it will make the countdown.

[John W Constantine]

I struggle to believe that less than 50% of people have voted for The Bodyguard.
90 for me.

[Citizen Rules]

Just submitted my list, @Yoda (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=1) maybe next countdown we can get the movie poster images that pops up to be a little bigger? It was hard to see the image on some of them.

[Harry Lime]

Are we at 80 lists yet?


At least 63 counting CR's. That's not bad. Not bad at all.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

That can't be right.

Depends; it could be for some films.

For instance a film like Pulp Fiction or Goodfellas for instance might only make 1/5 of the ballots, but for those ballots it does make, nearly all of them have it in their top five picks. Mathematically with the point system, it could be, especially considering that lets say the other 4/5 of ballots that might not have those picks, likely are choosing a very different set of top five films. I can pretty much guarantee and would actually bet money that not one of my top ten films on my ballot will make the MoFo top 10, and I have a good feeling that three of my top 10 films won't even make the top 100 list.

[stillmellow]

Everyone has their own way of making a top 25 movies of the 90s list, but I think we can all agree that you start with 15-20 Nic Cage movies, and wing it from there.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

Everyone has their own way of making a top 25 movies of the 90s list, but I think we cab all agree that you start with 15-20 Nic Cage movies, and wing it from there.

Are there films other than Nic Cage films? I just watch his films on a rotation and nothing else.

In all seriousness however, I do have one of his films in my top 25 90's list and yes, it's amazing, and no, it likely won't make the top 100.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

Just submitted my list, @Yoda (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=1) maybe next countdown we can get the movie poster images that pops up to be a little bigger? It was hard to see the image on some of them.

@Yoda (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=1)

Yes, I know I'd like the movie poster images that pop up to be a little bigger and for Yoda to say a few words over the dear films submitted.

Followed by a few songs, and a MoFo supper hosted by Yoda, AND A CHOIR!

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizBkjSZ5iw8jbGuGQohVaHguBa8sBDnYYLM4WESwTREtzszWqPd0OtEm1MCSuBWCgM3PeBEXEps9aa469qIcfxcjFGVzAL n6IFdgzJN9ljn5GLdKfQsUVSEUnnwyBUMl0lumXS3b07-Epu/s1600/Ernest+Borgnine+The+Wild+Bunch.PNG

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I struggle to believe that less than 50% of people have voted for The Bodyguard.

Love ya dude, but I struggle to believe that more than one-percent of the people voted for The Bodyguard.

[cricket]

Sent mine, 7 different films than my first 90's ballot

[MovieGal]

Everyone has their own way of making a top 25 movies of the 90s list, but I think we cab all agree that you start with 15-20 Nic Cage movies, and wing it from there.

Im sure i have no Nic Cage or Whitney Houston films on my list.

[Miss Vicky]

Sent mine, 7 different films than my first 90's ballot

12 of the movies I voted for in the original 90s countdown failed to make my ballot this time.

[Takoma11]

I'm a little sad that IMDb lists Beau Travail as 1999 release date, but our database says 2000 and thus ineligible.

[Thief]

We're at 68 and two days away. Time for the big push!

[Harry Lime]

Nicolas Freaking Cage!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuyH89V_HV8

[gbgoodies]

I narrowed my list down to my top 25 movies. Now I just have to figure out the final order, (which might be harder than narrowing down the list), but I should be able to get my list in by tomorrow.

[Captain Quint]

The End is Nigh!
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I can't stress enough, read those rules, in particular No Shorts! - we're down to the wire, so don't get stuck with an ineligible on your lists and no time to fix it.

Don't get hung up on time zones, get them in early. If you wait to the last day - just wake up, fall out of bed, drag a comb across your head... then get online and submit your ballot, so the zone won't be an issue.

You'll be doing yourself a favor, plus, I will thank you; Yoda will thank you; hell, Paul McCartney will probably thank you too.

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[Omnizoa]

I have locked in and submitted my Top 25.

I probably would have tweaked the bottom 5 a bit had I more time, but I'm not going to agonize over it any more.

I watched about 50 movies in total for this Countdown, ranked them all, and truncated all but the Top 25.

4 animated movies & 1 foreign language movie made my list. Definitely would have leaned more into one or the other if this were a 2000s or '80s Countdown.

[rauldc14]

I'll put the over under of films that were on the last countdown at 78.

[Holden Pike]

I can't stress enough, read those rules, in particular No Shorts! - we're down to the wire, so don't get stuck with an ineligible on your lists and no time to fix it.

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[pahaK]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=106681


Not even micros?

[Thief]

Yoda is certainly having fun today :laugh:

[mrblond]

Nice, we reach the end of this so long preparatory period. I hope this time everything is all right, no volcano no pandemic no tsunami, and the countdown going to start exactly in couple (two) days.
This will be a deserved respect for participants and their cracked patience.

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[Robert the List]

Im sure i have no Nic Cage or Whitney Houston films on my list.

:furious:

[Robert the List]

why the ---- has everyone changed their avatar to Mylie freakin Cyrus????

Edit: oooohhhhh.

[mattiasflgrtll6]

Okay. I'll give it a quick try.

[Captain Quint]

AHHHH, I have the face of another!!


And it's rather melty.


And as a surrealist fanboy I like it!




Also, there will be no countdown, this has all been one month's long, cruel joke.


Happy April Fools Day!

[mattiasflgrtll6]

WHAT

[ApexPredator]

I dropped my ballot in on time.