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hownos
12-13-24, 07:20 PM
Tonight at 7pm Eastern

My annual re-watch.

Allaby
12-13-24, 07:39 PM
I have seen 10 films directed by Henry Koster . I would rank The Bishop's Wife his third best film, after Harvey and The Robe.

Allaby
12-13-24, 07:50 PM
The Bishop's Wife was nominated for five Academy Awards, including best picture.

hownos
12-13-24, 07:57 PM
I guess Karolyn Grimes is the only person alive from this movie.

hownos
12-13-24, 07:59 PM
start

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:00 PM
Starting...

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:01 PM
Nice opening theme music.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:02 PM
Hark the Herald Angels Sing is one of my favourite Christmas carols.

hownos
12-13-24, 08:03 PM
Many people think Grant and Niven should have switched characters.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:06 PM
Many people think Grant and Niven should have switched characters.

Fun fact: Originally Cary Grant played the bishop and David Niven the angel. When original director William A. Seiter left the film, Henry Koster replaced him and viewed what had been shot so far. He realized that the two were in the wrong roles.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:08 PM
I prefer Cary Grant as an actor over David Niven.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:09 PM
William A. Seiter was the original director, but producer Samuel Goldwyn didn't like what he had shot and brought in Henry Koster to shoot a completely new film. The preview audience didn't like the new version, so Billy Wilder and Charles Brackett had to rewrite a couple of scenes without screen credit.

hownos
12-13-24, 08:11 PM
Fun fact: Originally Cary Grant played the bishop and David Niven the angel. When original director William A. Seiter left the film, Henry Koster replaced him and viewed what had been shot so far. He realized that the two were in the wrong roles.

Dana Andrews was suppose to play the bishop and Teresa Wright his wife.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:17 PM
This was remade in 1996 as The Preacher's Wife with Denzel Washington. I saw that version at the theater when it came out, but it wasn't as good as the original.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:18 PM
The last time I watched this was Thursday Dec 22, 2022.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:21 PM
Dudley seems like an unusual name for an angel.

hownos
12-13-24, 08:22 PM
Dudley seems like an unusual name for an angel.

Dudley vs Clarence?

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:23 PM
Dudley vs Clarence?

Clarence sounds more angelic to me. Dudley just seems like an odd name.

rauldc14
12-13-24, 08:26 PM
Ah, this is a commentary like the old days? Cool

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:28 PM
Loretta Young and David Niven were both Oscar winners. Cary Grant was nominated twice, but never won an Oscar.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:30 PM
Karolyn Grimes was also in It's A Wonderful Life.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:33 PM
I wish an angel would help me throw snowballs at people. :)

hownos
12-13-24, 08:38 PM
I wonder who these extras are playing the busybodies.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:38 PM
"I'm at my most serious when I'm joking."

Me too. ;)

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:46 PM
Good dialogue in this film.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:49 PM
Although this film has some good looking stars in it, the best looking one in the cast is the dog.

Allaby
12-13-24, 08:56 PM
I always liked this Psalm.

hownos
12-13-24, 08:59 PM
Good dialogue in this film.

How would you compare this to It's A Wonderful Life?

Allaby
12-13-24, 09:00 PM
How would you compare this to It's A Wonderful Life?

I prefer It's A Wonderful Life, but this is enjoyable too.

hownos
12-13-24, 09:01 PM
My favorite scene with the boys choir.

Allaby
12-13-24, 09:14 PM
Are all angels that good at skating?

Allaby
12-13-24, 09:38 PM
Ecclesiastical. There's a word you don't hear often in films.

hownos
12-13-24, 09:49 PM
A beautiful movie which touches on all the christmas themes. 7.5/10

Allaby
12-13-24, 09:49 PM
"All the stockings are filled... all that is, except one. And we have even forgotten to hang it up. The stocking for the child born in a manger. It's his birthday we are celebrating. Don't ever let us forget that. Let us ask ourselves what he would wish for most... and then let each put in his share. Loving kindness, warm hearts and the stretched out hand of tolerance. All the shining gifts that make peace on earth."

Great final lines.

Allaby
12-13-24, 09:50 PM
A lovely and charming film with wonderful performances. 8/10 from me.

hownos
12-15-24, 08:12 PM
My review


Another annual re-watch (one of the three Christmas movies I watch each year). Comparable to It's A Wonderful Life from the year before and A Christmas Carol . It's just not as dark as either of these as no one in this movie is as desperate as George Bailey or Scrooge but it works on many fronts and strikes all the Christmas themes. Grant is charming and annoying at times as Dudley, the angel. Niven is great as usual in his use of subtle humor. Loretta Young is probably underused somewhat. Love the comedic relief provided by the professor and taxi driver.

The movie is famous for the ice skating scene but my favorite scene is the boys choir scene. A very good Christmas fantasy movie with a great uplifting ending. 7.5/10