MoFo Fantasy Football 2024 - Sign-Ups

[Yoda]

Hey. It's almost time for us to pretend to draft who don't even know we exist and then complain when they pull hamstrings.

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I've renewed the league and set a (tentative) draft date and time of September 1st, Sunday, at 10:00 AM ET.

It's unclear if we'll have 12 or 14 or whatever this season, and some owners have suggested they prefer some configurations enough that they'd play in one but not the other, so please let me know if you want to play ASAP so we can figure things out as quickly as possible.

When replying, please confirm whether you're available for the above time. Bonus points for confirming whether you're available the previous day, August 31st, as a backup. If you don't confirm your potential availability for the draft time, you are not confirmed to participate. Every single year people skim this post (even though it's bold, and in red) and fail to do this.


What even is this?
The members on this site play in a fantasy football league. This will be its sixteenth (!) year, and it's a pretty great league. We play with 12-14 teams, and even though there's no money on the line we have a very high retention rate. This league is almost exclusively populated by competitive, engaged owners. I buy the winner a trophy each year (with the caveat that they have to post a photo of themselves with it):

http://www.movieforums.com/community/resize/phpThumb.php?src=/upload/trophy2010_med.jpg&w=600


Can I play?
Maybe. As I said, we have high retention, and some years we only have a slot or two open. This is a Movie Forums league, so heavy preference is given to people who are active on the forums, and this applies even to returning owners. We also give some preference to returning owners, since that kind of continuity is cool, but we lean a little more towards the first criteria. So if you're a regular you stand a decent chance of nabbing a spot. And even if you're kinda in-between, hey, it doesn't hurt to throw your helmet in the ring, provided you can pass concussion protocol after.

How do I sign up?
Just reply in this thread and say you'd like to play, and you'll be considered based on all the stuff I mentioned above. You may or may not get in, but there's no shame in asking! And asking and not getting in one year will be considered the next year as a possible tiebreaker, too.


Interested/Responded:
Yoda
seanc
Sedai
Holden Pike
rauldc14
TONGO
Wyldes
jiraffejustin
Captain Spaulding
Hey Fred
PW
Adam

[seanc]

I’m in and available the 31st and 1st. As my bonus I will be happy to have Captain’s first round pick. Pretty sure he won’t need it to beat me anyway.

[Sedai]

I am in and I am available for the draft on AUG 31.

I am taking my vacation a week earlier than usual this season, so will be home in plenty of time to not have to rush around or draft from my phone. :)

[Holden Pike]

Yes, I am available for August 31st, Saturday, at 1:00 PM ET! And I am still of the preference that I am in if it is a 12-team league, but if it swells to 14 teams I will gracefully bow out.

[Yoda]

So, Adam's going to be on a plane during the initial draft time, he's asking if everyone can commit early to Sunday, September 1st instead. So far it sounds like most/all can?

[Yoda]

Oh OR Saturday early evening, which would be my preference.

[Holden Pike]

I cannot do Saturday evening. I could potentially do Sunday morning, but it would have to truly be morning, East Coast time. I have to leave for a gig at noon, and that takes up the rest of my day and night.

[Yoda]

That might be a toughie then, because it sounds like you guys are totally mutually exclusive in terms of availability.

[Yoda]

Everybody please weigh in all these alternatives if you can.

I'm fine with Sunday morning ET but we have some West Coast people in the league too. Although I think at least one of them moved east recently, so maybe!

[seanc]

Everybody please weigh in all these alternatives if you can.

I'm fine with Sunday morning ET but we have some West Coast people in the league too. Although I think at least one of them moved east recently, so maybe!

As long as the choices continue to be weekend count me as yes. If that changes I will weigh in.

[rauldc14]

I can make anything work after 4PM Saturday or anytime Sunday. And I would like to be in again.

[Yoda]

I can make anything work after 4PM Saturday or anytime Sunday. And I would like to be in again.
So the initial listed time, 1PM Saturday, would not work?

[Holden Pike]

And 4:00pm is too late for me on Saturday (another band gig).

[TONGO]

Well I'll be working, I work weekends day & night, but rather than the long drama of trying to accommodate me like last year I'll simply auto draft. Any league size or setting is fine by me, and I promise to be an active owner. Looking forward to it. :)

[Yoda]

Starting to feel like Sunday morning is the best option. If anybody has a conflict with that let me know ASAP. Gonna try to confirm this Monday at the latest.

[TONGO]

Oh, and my draft order is 1 thru 12 in that order. Nothing fancy, easy peazy, lemon squeezy.

[Sedai]

I am fine for the entire weekend, so whatever we settle on I should be able to make it :)

[Wyldesyde19]

I’m in!
I am available for either day. The time depends on whether I am working on Saturday, but I am always free on Sundays

If we stick to the Saturday time, that’s definitely yes. Any later and I might autodraft unless I can figure something out if I’m working.
Sunday is always a yes at any time, as noted above, so just let me know the time and I’m good.

[Dead2009]

What site is the draft on?

[rauldc14]

So the initial listed time, 1PM Saturday, would not work?

I can do it. Provided those alarms work. :)

But yeah, Sunday is a definite.

[Wyldesyde19]

I just hope I make it back to the playoffs again. I will always be salty over last year.
And it wasn’t even due to injuries, this time.

[TONGO]

What site is the draft on?
We use Yahoo

[TONGO]

Auto drafting for Football will be a first for me. It's like Fantasy Suicide to do this for football. Baseballs way more forgiving, but a Fantasy Football season 80% of your chances to win depends on your draft. God knows what rickety throwaway RBs im gonna be left with. I might even get Cadillac Williams.

[jiraffejustin]

I am in and I think I am available either of those days.

[rauldc14]

Auto drafting for Football will be a first for me. It's like Fantasy Suicide to do this for football. Baseballs way more forgiving, but a Fantasy Football season 80% of your chances to win depends on your draft. God knows what rickety throwaway RBs im gonna be left with. I might even get Cadillac Williams.

Probably something like Devin Singletary/Kenneth Walker territory

[Wyldesyde19]

Probably something like Devin Singletary/Kenneth Walker territory
Walker from Seattle? He’s legit, actually.
With Singletary….he’s ok, but I’m curious how well he’ll do with the Giants. He strikes me as maybe someone who hasn’t been given a full chance as the starter yet, for a full season, who hasn’t been able to show how good he can be when he’s the starter and not sharing the backfield with anyone like he has previously.

[MovieGal]

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[MovieGal]

I'm not in but expect KC Cheif memes randomly. I know how much y'all hate my hometown team.

[TONGO]

I'm not in but expect KC Cheif memes randomly. I know how much y'all hate my hometown team.
Last year I had Mahomes, Rashee Rice, and their RB Pacheco and couldn't even get in the playoffs. They finally emerged in their playoffs, but the Fantasy seasons over by then. When they won the Super Bowl I felt so used!

[MovieGal]

Last year I had Mahomes, Rashee Rice, and their RB Pacheco and couldn't even get in the playoffs. They finally emerged in their playoffs, but the Fantasy seasons over by then. When they won the Super Bowl I felt so used!

So the fantasy league doesn't go by the actual games?

[Wyldesyde19]

So the fantasy league doesn't go by the actual games?
Rice was boom or bust most time. Mahomes wasn’t putting up the numbers he use to when he had T Hill as his go to WR.
Pacheco….I think started slow or maybe missed some time with an injury? His numbers spiked toward the end of the season, or maybe about halfway through perhaps? I can’t remember.
They weren’t exactly dominant last year, which is why I picked….Ravens vs San Fran was it? I can’t recall. But I definitely picked against KC because it was a “down” season.
Never bet against Mahomes.

[Wyldesyde19]

Just looked at the numbers from Tongo’s Team last year. Pacheco was sometimes good for 12-15 points, with several sub 10 point games and towards the end of the season, he jumped to over 20 points a few times.

Rice was worse than I realized. Mahomes was what I remembered last year. Still decent, however, as a top tier QB.
Poor Tongo

[Captain Spaulding]

Any time on the weekends is fine with me.

Auto drafting for Football will be a first for me. It's like Fantasy Suicide to do this for football. Baseballs way more forgiving, but a Fantasy Football season 80% of your chances to win depends on your draft. God knows what rickety throwaway RBs im gonna be left with. I might even get Cadillac Williams.

Raul won the championship a couple years ago with an auto-drafted team, and I doubt he was the first. Obviously the draft is important, especially early in the season, but I think in-season management and good fortune with the schedule/injuries are the biggest keys to success.

If you're gonna auto-draft, I suggest pre-ranking enough players to ensure your preferences for the first few rounds. I'd also add every kicker and defense to your Do Not Draft list since auto-draft fills out your starting roster before selecting bench spots. Otherwise you'll be selecting a kicker and defense in rounds 8 and 9 when good skill players are still on the board. You can always grab a kicker and defense off the wire before the season starts.

[Hey Fredrick]

I'm in. A Sunday draft would be perfect but Saturday shouldn't be a problem.

[Powdered Water]

Sunday morning would also be best for me. Been working part time and I've been working most Saturdays.

[Wyldesyde19]

When are we drawing for draft positions?

[Yoda]

Once we have all owners confirmed.

[Yoda]

Okay, I'm moving the draft to SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST at 10:00 AM ET. Earlier than we usually do it but it seems to be the only time nobody has a hard conflict with.

If anyone objects let me know ASAP, otherwise I'll lock this in and set the draft order tomorrow. If people want to, like TONGO, give me their preferred draft slots in order in advance, it'll help speed things up. Especially if you're not sure you'll be checking your PMs regularly enough to respond quickly when it's your turn to choose. I think we have to cap the time to respond on those to 24 hours, otherwise I'll give you the next-highest slot.

[Wyldesyde19]

10 am. I guess I could wake up by then. No chance we could move it to 12 noon?

[rauldc14]

No!!!!!!! This is perfect! :)

[Wyldesyde19]

I can set my alarm.

[Yoda]

10 am. I guess I could wake up by then. No chance we could move it to 12 noon?
Holden leaves for a gig at noon, this was the only time I could figure that was at least possible for everyone. If there's a hard conflict for multiple people I kinda just flip a coin.

I think he might have to leave a bit early as-is, but if you can draft for a bit over an hour at that point you're mostly fine, autodrafting the back half of the draft isn't a death sentence.

[Wyldesyde19]

Holden leaves for a gig at noon, this was the only time I could figure that was at least possible for everyone. If there's a hard conflict for multiple people I kinda just flip a coin.

I think he might have to leave a bit early as-is, but if you can draft for a bit over an hour at that point you're mostly fine, autodrafting the back half of the draft isn't a death sentence.

10 am will work. I’ll just set my alarm early.
I don’t want to hold us up any longer then necessary so everyone can figure out our draft order so they can start mocks up

[Hey Fredrick]

Not trying to hijack the thread but I'm doing a guillotine league again this season if anybody is interested. The draft date is Sept 1 @ 8:00 pm CT. There are 6 spots available on a first come first serve basis.

[Wyldesyde19]

Let get this going!

*hopes for #1 pick*

[Wyldesyde19]

I h e a feeling a Yoda has already drawn for about 7 or 8 of us and the only spots remaining are 6 - 8.

[TONGO]

I h e a feeling a Yoda has already drawn for about 7 or 8 of us and the only spots remaining are 6 - 8.
Nah. He's busy. Itll all get done faster if everyone just send their draft order too him now. If we're waiting to be asked again it just drags on longer.

[Yoda]

Okay, choice order drawn, contacting the first few people. Unfortunately only like two people sent me their full preferences ahead of time so this might take a bit. I'm giving everyone just about a day per choice, if I don't hear back by then I'm giving them the next-highest slot, since we have to move quick.

[Wyldesyde19]

Vikings lose their rookie QB McCarthy for the season for torn meniscus. There were some hype around him before the injury.
At some point, the chatter about removing pre season games will grow louder.

[Yoda]

Replying here in case people have thread reply emails and not PM emails setup: please check your PMs. We have to move fast. 24 hours after the draft slot choice I simply have to give you the next-highest slot and move on since every choice is a potential bottleneck.

If you get back on after and your choice is still available you can still have it but at that point it's like running out of time at the NFL Draft, where other people can just race you to the stage.

[TONGO]

Well I guess I got that McCaffrey guy. Heard alot about him. Hope he stays healthy. I guess he's footballs version of Aaron Judge.

Again I'll be completely auto-drafting so if the #1 player changes between now and then that's who I'll be picking.
I appreciate Spaulding advising me to tweak my draft order, have done that a few times, but I'm really wanting to get that coveted Yahoo A+. That's big business. :)

[seanc]

I just thought of something that has occurred to me the last couple of years while going through our scoring settings. Does anyone else think maybe it’s time to adjust for Def points allowed? So hard to score any points anymore in that category with the league being so offensive minded. I know we don’t want Def to be too valuable in fantasy, but as is they really are barely a thought anymore.

[Holden Pike]

I just thought of something that has occurred to me the last couple of years while going through our scoring settings. Does anyone else think maybe it’s time to adjust for Def points allowed? So hard to score any points anymore in that category with the league being so offensive minded. I know we don’t want Def to be too valuable in fantasy, but as is they really are barely a thought anymore.
I don't, no. I think it is fine the way it is.

[Yoda]

I just thought of something that has occurred to me the last couple of years while going through our scoring settings. Does anyone else think maybe it’s time to adjust for Def points allowed? So hard to score any points anymore in that category with the league being so offensive minded. I know we don’t want Def to be too valuable in fantasy, but as is they really are barely a thought anymore.
I agree, I wish I'd thought to bring it up earlier.

I'll give everyone a solid week to object to the idea of me tweaking defense scores high. Not a lot, just a bit.

[Wyldesyde19]

I’m open to a little tweaking on Def scoring.

[TONGO]

I'm Ok with anything as long as it affects everyone equally.

[Wyldesyde19]

I will say that the first TD scored against you is a huge decrease in Def points scored. It goes down by 6. That’s simply too much of a hit, and then it kind of becomes inconsistent. Next TD is like, 3 points off? 14 points against puts its at 1 Def point scored, not including any fumble recoveries, sacks, or interceptions. So just 2 TD scored against and it’s not evenly applied.
1st TD with extra point: -6 points
2nd TD with extra point: -3
It’s always bothered me.

[Holden Pike]

I will say that the first TD scored against you is a huge decrease in Def points scored. It goes down by 6. That’s simply too much of a hit, and then it kind of becomes inconsistent. Next TD is like, 3 points off? 14 points against puts its at 1 Def point scored, not including any fumble recoveries, sacks, or interceptions. So just 2 TD scored against and it’s not evenly applied.
1st TD with extra point: -6 points
2nd TD with extra point: -3
It’s always bothered me.

Well, you start with 10 points just for your Defense suiting up. If they give up two TDs and have not supplemented with any positives (fumble recoveries, sacks, what have you), giving up 14 actual points essentially erases the 10 Fantasy points. Always seemed fair to me. Most defenses that give up more than a couple touchdowns in the NFL do not put their teams in position to win many games. Why should Fantasy be different, in that regard?

How do you propose to "fix" that (though I don't consider it broken)? If a D can give up four TDs and still be giving you double-digit Fantasy scores, that doesn't feel right. Just get rid of the position. If the average D gets 9-12 points then you tweak it where the average is 16-18 points, if it rises uniformly then what's the point?

[seanc]

Most defenses that give up more than a couple touchdowns in the NFL do not put their teams in position to win many games. Why should Fantasy be different, in that regard?

I don’t find that to be true anymore. I looked to make sure my thoughts weren’t anecdotal, as they tend to be. The average has been over 20 for a few seasons now. If I was king, I would line fantasy scoring more with those numbers.

[Holden Pike]

Just looked up what my starting DEFs gave me last year. I used seven different teams (Green Bay five times, Las Vegas four, Detroit three, Tampa Bay twice, Denver, Seattle, and Cleveland once each). I scored 134 points total, for an average of 7.88. My highest weekly score was a 19, my lowest was a 0.

You want Wide Receiver type numbers from the DEF? QB level? Not all positions are equal.

[Wyldesyde19]

Well, you start with 10 points just for your Defense suiting up. If they give up two TDs and have not supplemented with any positives (fumble recoveries, sacks, what have you), giving up 14 actual points essentially erases the 10 Fantasy points. Always seemed fair to me. Most defenses that give up more than a couple touchdowns in the NFL do not put their teams in position to win many games. Why should Fantasy be different, in that regard?

How do you propose to "fix" that (though I don't consider it broken)? If a D can give up four TDs and still be giving you double-digit Fantasy scores, that doesn't feel right. Just get rid of the position. If the average D gets 9-12 points then you tweak it where the average is 16-18 points, if it rises uniformly then what's the point?
How it’s tweaked is up to Yoda, and I guess we’ll vote on it. I understand how the points work but as I stated, it’s inconsistent as I noted above. It shouldn’t be -6 for the first TD and then just -3 for the second TD. It doesn’t make sense when it’s the same amount scored either way. You get more of a penalty for the first TD than you do for the 2nd and 3rd one.
Maybe it should work the opposite way.
But perhaps something like -3 for the first TD, -3 for the 2nd, -4 for the third.
At 21 points, the first ten points spotted are erased, which is how it almost works already but not with such a huge penalty swing for that first TD. Which again, is a huge hit and inconsistent with the next 2 TD.
The above suggestion needs some tweaking tho, for sure.

[Holden Pike]

How it’s tweaked is up to Yoda, and I guess we’ll vote on it. I understand how the points work but as I stated, it’s inconsistent as I noted above. It shouldn’t be -6 for the first TD and then just -3 for the second TD. It doesn’t make sense when it’s the same amount scored either way. You get more of a penalty for the first TD than you do for the 2nd and 3rd one.
Maybe it should work the opposite way.
But perhaps something like -3 for the first TD, -3 for the 2nd, -4 for the third.
At 21 points, the first ten points spotted are erased, which is how it almost works already but not with such a huge penalty swing for that first TD. Which again, is a huge hit and inconsistent with the next 2 TD.
The above suggestion needs some tweaking tho, for sure.

You already have weeks, with the current scoring, where a DEF can get you over twenty points. Doesn't happen a whole lot, not every week certainly, but it happens. If you raise the floor on an average or bad defensive performance what does that do to the ceilings of the great defenses? Now are they going to routinely score 27 points like a good QB and in fantastic weeks be your top scorer? A fifty-burger from the DEF? Is that really what you want?

[seanc]

You already have weeks, with the current scoring, where a DEF can get you over twenty points. Doesn't happen a whole lot, not ever week, but it happens. If you raise the floor on an average or bad defensive performance what does that do to the ceilings of the great defenses? Now are they going to routinely score 27 points like a good QB and in fantastic weeks be your top scorer? A fifty-burger from the DEF? Is that really what you want?

I think you are overstating greatly what moving the scoring parameters by a FG would accomplish. I think we are talking about moving the defense up by an average of a point or two at the most.

[Holden Pike]

If we are only moving things up what is going to amount to, on average, to be another point or two, why tweak it at all? So your crappy DEF can get you 8 points instead of 6? Yee-haw.

[seanc]

Put Holden down for a maybe

[Wyldesyde19]

You already have weeks, with the current scoring, where a DEF can get you over twenty points. Doesn't happen a whole lot, not every week certainly, but it happens. If you raise the floor on an average or bad defensive performance what does that do to the ceilings of the great defenses? Now are they going to routinely score 27 points like a good QB and in fantastic weeks be your top scorer? A fifty-burger from the DEF? Is that really what you want?
Don’t be ridiculous.*
At no point did my suggested scale imply that the Def would score similarly to a QB or even approach 50 points. I don’t even see how you reached that conclusion. Especially when it subtracts points for a TD scored, just at a more consistent scale.

[TONGO]

Oy vey. Let's just keep it as-is for harmony sake. I think the "fix" being proposed is just going to make another person think a fix will be necessary for the fix, and on and on...

I can see Holdens point, and whenever a Defense occasionally drops 20-30 points it's noteworthy. With a new system it'll be more commonplace, and just doing away with Defenses entire would be ludicrous. People have said this about Kickers and Defenses for years, but reality is either one has been the determining factors for wins or losses in football games.

If it ain't broke don't fix it, and it ain't that broke.

[Wyldesyde19]

Oy vey. Let's just keep it as-is for harmony sake. I think the "fix" being proposed is just going to make another person think a fix will be necessary for the fix, and on and on...

I can see Holdens point, and whenever a Defense occasionally drops 20-30 points it's noteworthy. With a new system it'll be more commonplace, and just doing away with Defenses entire would be ludicrous. People have said this about Kickers and Defenses for years, but reality is either one has been the determining factors for wins or losses in football games.

If it ain't broke don't fix it, and it ain't that broke.
Right, I wouldn’t say it’s broken, but I do think it could be tweaked. I cant agree with 20-30 points being more commonplace, as as I’ve proposed, it would subtract more points the more TD, or even points, are scored with right now is the opposite. Maybe more like 10-19
The first TD is -6 with an extra point and the second only knocks off -3. 3rd TD only knocks off 1. 4th does nothing.
It should be the opposite and let’s be honest, most points are gained by sacks, INT and fumbles, right?

[Yoda]

We have successfully ruled out the ideas of causing defenses to score 50 points, and of causing them to score 8. My back of the napkin math suggests there's a lot of room to work with within those two extremes, neither of which I think anybody was suggesting. There's a lot of levers in there, it'd be pretty easy to achieve a sensible balance.

As Wylde already pointed out, the idea that you can get a single point for allowing just 14 points--a rate which would make you the best defensive team in all of football last year, by the way--is manifestly silly.

The idea isn't to make defenses as important as skill positions, either. Though I wonder what would be so crazy about that given that it's, ya' know, literally half the game. But they could certainly matter a bit more. Right now they're just a notch above the human dice that are kickers. Adding a little more skill expression in what's a very random fantasy game makes plenty of sense.

[Yoda]

But, since this was brought up late a single objection is enough to thwart it, so I guess it's thwarted.

Personally I'd be happy to support a tweak to defensive scoring next season.

[Yoda]

Anyway, draft order is set:

1. North Dallas TONGO / TONGO
2. LOVE Brokers / Holden Pike
3. Parrotheads / Hey Fredrick
4. Wide Right / seanc
5. Bustin' Justin's Bad Boys / jiraffejustin
6. Return of the Dark Decade / Powdered Water
7. Titletown Champs / rauldc14
8. WhentheLe'VeonBreaks / Adamantium18
9. 11 Angry Men / Yoda
10. All Tuckered Out / Sedai
11. Censored Clowns / Captain Spaulding
12. Wylde Wolves 🐺 / Wyldesyde19

[Wyldesyde19]

This is going to be fun. We have the usual 3 big names in Yoda, Spaulding and WTLB, and I’d probably add Parrotheads since he’s joined since he’s made it into the playoffs 3 out of 4 years. That includes two runner up finishes. So, ideally, if one of them misses the playoffs with an “off season”, we’re talking 2 or 3 of us rotating in and out on a yearly basis.

This is what it’s like to compete in the AFC behind KC, Cincy, Baltimore, and Buffalo.

[Wyldesyde19]

Also, big thanks to Yoda for setting this up and running it again this year. This is, what, 15th year?

[Yoda]

17th, actually. Dang, I didn't think it was that long until I counted.

[TONGO]

17th, actually. Dang, I didn't think it was that long until I counted.
Whoa!

Wow.

Just looked it up. The 2007 NFL Rookie of the Year was Adrian Peterson.

And I was 2 years younger than what Yoda is now. :eek:
:beatty: :bea:

[Wyldesyde19]

Looking at some of these past championship games, there were some close games.
2015 Empire over Plasticpads was just over a point
2017 Yoda over Spaulding by just over 4 points.
2021 was a good one after I had joined. Empire holding off that late surge from Parrotheads was fun to witness.

[Holden Pike]

But, since this was brought up late a single objection is enough to thwart it, so I guess it's thwarted.

Personally I'd be happy to support a tweak to defensive scoring next season.
I will wait to see what the actual proposed changes are. Don't mind me. I'm quiet as a church mouse (walking across the pipe organ).

[Wyldesyde19]

17th, actually. Dang, I didn't think it was that long until I counted.
Outside of you, Tongo and PW, who else has been in the league the longest?

[TONGO]

Anyway, draft order is set:

1. North Dallas TONGO / TONGO
2. LOVE Brokers / Holden Pike
3. Parrotheads / Hey Fredrick
4. Wide Right / seanc
5. Bustin' Justin's Bad Boys / jiraffejustin
6. Return of the Dark Decade / Powdered Water
7. Titletown Champs / rauldc14
8. WhentheLe'VeonBreaks / Adamantium18
9. 11 Angry Men / Yoda
10. All Tuckered Out / Sedai
11. Censored Clowns / Captain Spaulding
12. Wylde Wolves 🐺 / Wyldesyde19
Allright. I've already stated I'd take McCaffrey if he's still ranked #1 draft day. I'm auto drafting completely with no tweaking. Since talking about it is fun in of itself,
who are you taking Holden Pike? :)

[Yoda]

Outside of you, Tongo and PW, who else has been in the league the longest?
I think Adam, Sedai, and raul? I think raul skipped a year or two, though. But we've got a few people who must be up around 10-15 years.

[Powdered Water]

I'm realizing that I'm getting more and more out of touch with football and sports in general. I barely even watch football or any sports for that matter. I also don't post here very much anymore. If there's another member here that wants to try this out, I'd be willing to give up my spot. I'm not quitting but I thought I'd throw it out there. I haven't looked back in the thread so I don't know if anyone new even had interest in joining.

[Yoda]

I'm realizing that I'm getting more and more out of touch with football and sports in general.
I'm with you on football, I pay much less attention than I did even just a few years ago. But I pay way more attention to baseball, so it's more a transfer.

I barely even watch football or any sports for that matter. I also don't post here very much anymore. If there's another member here that wants to try this out, I'd be willing to give up my spot. I'm not quitting but I thought I'd throw it out there. I haven't looked back in the thread so I don't know if anyone new even had interest in joining.
I think we're probably too close to the draft for that, but nice of you to offer for next year and beyond. We seem to have a pretty steady interest level, maybe one or two new people per year at most, so we're not usually hurting for spots OR owners most years.

[Holden Pike]

I'm keeping my same team name, the LOVE Brokers (reference to the 1982 comedy Night Shift, if you didn't know). In my other Yahoo league, where I have been playing since 2016, my team name has always been the Blutarskies. I wanted to use Double Secret Probation, but Yahoo doesn't allow enough characters for that. This has been my team logo for years...
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But I am in a THIRD league this year, going in with my office mates, and using ESPN instead of Yahoo (first time for me). I have enough space to be Double Secret Probation there, with the Bluto pic. So after eight years I am changing my name in my initial Yahoo league. I shall be Shirley Serious.

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[TONGO]

I posted this link on Facebook and now here if anyone would like to join a Autodraft league, 12 teams, just for fun. Figured if everyone is autodrafting it would be fair across the board.


https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1082593/invitation?key=bac5bbcbc2f44999&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=b40d3a302c96d258

[Captain Spaulding]

How it’s tweaked is up to Yoda, and I guess we’ll vote on it. I understand how the points work but as I stated, it’s inconsistent as I noted above. It shouldn’t be -6 for the first TD and then just -3 for the second TD. It doesn’t make sense when it’s the same amount scored either way. You get more of a penalty for the first TD than you do for the 2nd and 3rd one.
Maybe it should work the opposite way.
But perhaps something like -3 for the first TD, -3 for the 2nd, -4 for the third.
At 21 points, the first ten points spotted are erased, which is how it almost works already but not with such a huge penalty swing for that first TD. Which again, is a huge hit and inconsistent with the next 2 TD.
The above suggestion needs some tweaking tho, for sure.

I think it makes sense for the first TD to carry a heavier penalty than subsequent TDs, as it rewards elite defensive performances. If a defense posts a shut-out, they deserve to be rewarded with a nice little bonus. However, I agree that it's silly and a bit outdated that 14 points allowed nets only 1 point for fantasy defenses.

Another slight tweak that I propose for next season is making 60+ yard FGs count for 6 points instead of the current 5. That used to be a moot issue because nobody kicked 60+ yarders, but we're seeing it more often nowadays.

[Captain Spaulding]

I'd like to create a pick 'em group for us, but first want some feedback on everyone's preferred scoring format.

My preference is for confidence picks, where you rank each game based on how confident you are in the winner. It's a fun wrinkle and it makes it easier for people to climb back in the standings if they get off to a bad start. Or we could pick against the spread (which I'd rather not do). Or just stick to the standard format where each correct pick nets a point.

[Captain Spaulding]

Well, nobody chimed in, so I just went with the same settings as last year, except this time we're only including the regular season.

Yahoo Pro Football Pick'em (https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem)
Group ID#: 35932
Password: mofo

Feel free to invite friends and family if you'd like. It doesn't have to be exclusive to mofos.

[TONGO]

This is gonna be the first time I'll get off work, log on, and find out whose on my team. Interesting.

[rauldc14]

I heard there's a draft tomorrow morning

[MovieGal]

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[Yoda]

Once again my real-life responsibilities have left me highly unprepared for my fantasy responsibilities.

[Holden Pike]

I already had one draft, last week, which I am pretty happy with. Ours is today, then I have a third tomorrow afternoon.

[Sedai]

Guess I should do a little research...

Last minute Larry, over here!

[seanc]

Very excited to once again be disappointed by how much better you guys draft than me.

[Hey Fredrick]

I already had one draft, last week, which I am pretty happy with. Ours is today, then I have a third tomorrow afternoon.


I have two today and three Tuesday night. Tuesday's are all at the same time. Yeesh! I'll try to juggle doing the 2 pay leagues Tuesday at the same time but I'm going to have to auto draft in the free/fun league.

[seanc]

I'd like to create a pick 'em group for us, but first want some feedback on everyone's preferred scoring format.

My preference is for confidence picks, where you rank each game based on how confident you are in the winner. It's a fun wrinkle and it makes it easier for people to climb back in the standings if they get off to a bad start. Or we could pick against the spread (which I'd rather not do). Or just stick to the standard format where each correct pick nets a point.

I enjoy the confidence format

[TONGO]

Things are so slow for me at work I may have time to participate. We will see.

[Wyldesyde19]

Tongo with best draft per yahoo

[TONGO]

Tongo with best draft per yahoo
lol! I don't think a team has ever won the championship that had a A+ Yahoo draft grade.

[Holden Pike]

My grade was a C-, or as George Costanza once opined, "Right in that meaty part of the curve."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMDRbOBMno



And of course TONGO largely autodrafted to an A+. Computerized Bot's pet!

[Wyldesyde19]

I got a D.
Weird. I thought I deserved a C.
RB depth worries me, but I like my WR core and I have a very decent QB/TE combo.

[Yoda]

The Yahoo grades are an absolute joke.

And I say that having not even looked at mine.

[Yoda]

lol I got an F. Perfect. Actually makes me feel a little better about how it went.

[seanc]

lol I got an F. Perfect. Actually makes me feel a little better about how it went.

Allen will be gone in my draft tonight, and I am seriously considering the Daniels route. He’s going to run a bunch.

[Wyldesyde19]

The Yahoo grades are an absolute joke.

And I say that having not even looked at mine.
Yeah, I remember last year Adam (I think) got a D and proceeded to go 10-4 and get runner up. Even after he traded away CMC to start the season, as I recall.

[Yoda]

Allen will be gone in my draft tonight, and I am seriously considering the Daniels route. He’s going to run a bunch.
Yeah, I'm hoping he's just a high-floor guy. I've won this league before with high-floor QBs and a lot of investment in skill positions otherwise. Heavy WR, running QB, one good RB and some lottery tickets. I dunno if it's still a winning formula (sometimes you just whiff on every single upside pick, or a key player just gets hurt), but it's been one a few times in the past. The last few years I zagged a little in taking what I thought was value at QB or TE and it seemed to work better at getting me in the top half of the league, but worse at helping me actually win it. So we'll zig back a little this year and see how it goes.

[Captain Spaulding]

Jonathan Taylor slipping to me in the 11th spot was my best-case scenario. I would have taken him as high as 5th overall. The #1 RB in 2021; still in his prime; one of the few remaining bell-cows; plays behind one of the better o-lines. By average, he was the third highest scoring RB during the 2nd half of the season last year. I just need him to stay healthy, which he's been unable to do the past two years.

I'm equally ecstatic about having Derrick Henry as my RB2. I understand the concern some have due to his age and the cumulative wear and tear, but the man's built different. He was still a top-ten RB last season despite the hindrance of one of the worst o-lines and an anemic passing attack. Even if he loses a step this season, it should hopefully be negated by all the defensive attention applied to Lamar Jackson. I think Henry is a good bet to lead the league in rushing TDs considering that Gus Edwards had 13 TDs last season for the Ravens.

This is the first time I've ever rostered Mahomes on any of my fantasy squads, so that's exciting. However, good QBs stayed on the board longer in our draft than they have in most of the mocks I've done, so I might've been better off grabbing a RB/WR with that pick and waiting for someone like Jordan Love or Kyler Murray a few rounds later.

My biggest concern is lack of depth at RB. Typically in mocks I've loaded up on RBs at the expense of the WR position, but things played out differently in our draft. I regret not picking Rachaad White in the 4th instead of DK Metcalf. I was confident someone like Connor or Montgomery would still be on the board when it snaked back around to me in the 5th, but things played out differently, which was essentially the theme for me the rest of the draft, as none of my late-round RB targets slipped to me. I fully expect Devin Singletary to be a bust -- journeyman RB playing behind a lackluster o-line in a bad offense on a team that will frequently be trailing -- but he's the de facto starter (for now). Who knows how the run game will play out in Dallas. Zeke and Cook don't have much tread left on their tires, so maybe Dowdle can assert himself as their best playmaker in the backfield, but I expect Dallas's run game to be a fantasy headache. Allgeier and Jordan Mason are two of the premier handcuffs, but betting on injuries is never fun. (Although in recent years the consensus #1 overall pick in FF has seemingly become the new Madden curse, and CMC has already dealt with a calf issue in camp, so fingers crossed that Mason is this year's lottery ticket.)

I'm pleased with my WR depth, at least. Metcalf is one of those guys whom I feel is better in real life than in fantasy, but with Pete Carroll gone, I'm hoping that the Seahawks play at a faster pace and lean more toward the pass, helping Metcalf fulfill his potential to post elite production. I've seen Nabers climb up draft boards after all the hype this pre-season, so I was surprised he was still on the board at the end of the 5th round. Bold prediction: He scores more fantasy points this season than fellow rookie Marvin Harrison Jr. Daniel Jones as his QB is obviously a concern, but Nabers should be one of the most targeted WRs in the league this season. Godwin, McLaurin and Diontae Johnson should be reliable floor guys; I just need them to have more luck in the TD department. Unfortunately I was unable to nab Shakir, one of my favorite sleepers, but Curtis Samuel is a decent consolation who should have some spike weeks with Josh Allen.

Overall, I'm satisfied with my team, although I'd definitely re-do a few picks knowing how the draft played out -- but that's true of every season.

[jiraffejustin]

Yahoo likes my draft.... :homealone:

[Wyldesyde19]

Grabbing 2 RB’s with a high ceiling was a great start. Williams and Achane should be good for 15-20 points regularly, with Williams breaking 20 points often enough and Achane breaking 30, maybe even 40 points on occasion. Both come with concerns, and I debated on passing on Achane but ultimately decided to grab him. How much they both share the ball with their respective backups and how healthy they stay will be huge for the season.
Depth outside of those two are a concern. Unless Brown takes over quicker than expected from Miss (apparently Brown has garnered rave reviews over training camp and the preseason) and Herbert takes over for an oft injured Swift, it’s a little thin. JK Dobbins was a mistake. Mistake that I drafted him when I wanted Herbert, who I grabbed anyways so it was all ok.

I really like my WR trio or Deebo, Diggs, and Cooper. Was pleasantly surprised Deebo fell to me at the end of the third round. Shakir and Shaheed are nice for depth and are both looking to have a potential breakout season. Shakir being more likely. Mike Williams returning from injury and with Rodgers throwing to him might keep him relevant yet.

Burrows and Ferguson as my QB/TE combo round out my starters. Watson and Sennot (who?) are my backups at the respective positions there.

Honestly, it’s not my best draft. I definitely had a better team 3 years ago before injuries decimated my RB’s. And last years team was also better, on paper that is. Yet both teams missed the playoffs. So who knows?

I definitely think a D is joke. It’s a C in my opinion. And I’ve seen plenty of you guys have bad grades and still make the playoffs. So I take it with a grain of salt.

Anyways, hoping to make the playoffs this year, as I feel I have something to prove after last year, for some reason. 8 wins generally gets you in, with 7 wins sometimes working as well, but I’d rather not squeak in again and have a more successful season.

My first opponent is The Jackson 11, and his team is pretty dangerous right off the bat. I just hope to keep it close until Sunday night with K Williams and Monday Night with Deebo and hopefully they can score enough to take the win, if I’m trailing by that time.

Oh well, let’s have fun, regardless and cheer for our teams.

[TONGO]

The only player Im not excited about is Kenneth Walker III, my Seattle RB. If I was on I'da grabbed Joe Conner for Arizona instead. Yeah, Holden said no to the trade offer.

[Wyldesyde19]

I would have grabbed Walker over Connor, but maybe that’s just me.

[TONGO]

Just watched a great documentary called Bye Bye Barry on Amazon Prime. Interviewing Barry Sanders himself, his family, his colleagues, and media that were apart of his entire career till the end. Not only was he a one of a kind generational talent, but a one of a kind man. The Anti-Deion.

[Wyldesyde19]

Two more days~

[Wyldesyde19]

So who feels really good about their team? What are your real expectations for yourself?
With, I’d feel better if I could have grabbed any of my other RB targets (Walker, Pollard, Swift, White) all were gone so I had to go with backups who could become starters before the season is over depending on injuries. (brown and Herbert).
Despite that, I’m hoping for at least an 8-6 finish.

[rauldc14]

I feel pretty good. Love my WR room and will feel even better if Harris can solidly produce.

[MovieGal]

No Cheifs bashing tomorrow night.

I'll be watching you!

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[TONGO]

No Cheifs bashing tomorrow night.

I'll be watching you!

100766
I have both Defenses, and decided to play KCs over Baltimores. Putting a Defense against Mahomes, that's crazy talk. Probably neither defense will do well anyway fantasy points wise.

[Holden Pike]

Yoda, don't we need a MoFo Fantasy Football 2024 - The Season thread started?

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This Week 1 match-up has been at a projected statistical standstill since the draft. Let's play, already!

[Sedai]

Game on!

Set your rosters, chaps!