Daylight Savings Time: Yes or No?

[Captain Steel]

Happy time switch, everybody!
(Personally, I always wish we could always gain an hour instead of losing one once a year.)

The debate is on again over whether we should continue or eliminate Daylight Savings Time.

But on the news the other night, there was now a sub-debate within the side of ending the practice: if ended, should we stick with "regular time" or the "savings time"?

What say you?

[Allaby]

We should end this nonsense about changing the clocks and just stick with regular time.

[Captain Steel]

I ended up taking a 2 hour nap in the middle of the day today.
(But knowing me, I probably did the same thing last fall when we gained an hour!) ;)

[Citizen Rules]

I don't like changing the clocks but at least my computer does it automatically.

[Yoda]

There's some research to suggest a real cost to switching: temporary upticks in accidents and the like. I'm a little skeptical of that, but it seems superficially plausible, and it's obviously a lot of trouble/thought to keep track of for everyone. That's gone down a lot now that phones just update on their own.

That said...man, do I enjoy my summers a lot more with DST. The hour in the evening is just a lot more useful and pleasant than the one early in the morning. And while I might be extrapolating from my own experience, it sure seems like getting up really early is less and less common, so it sure seems like a net gain.

So, in summary: I think I'd support DST as a permanent shift. And I'd prefer it as-is over not using it at all. But that might be because I play an insane amount of softball during the spring and summer so it makes my day to day life significantly nicer for like half the year.

[Yoda]

How much more pleasant (nobody asked)? So pleasant that literally just seeing this thread title and thinking about it made me a little bit happier. I just get a warm, fuzzy feeling about the whole thing, admittedly because it's tied up with half a dozen other things.

[Captain Steel]

Years ago I worked the night shift, and Savings Time had a monetary impact since that's the shift during which the clocks changed.

Our schedule itself was weird: we had rotating days off: we'd work 6 days, then get a 2 day weekend, but every 6 weeks (I think) we'd get a 3 day weekend. A 3 day weekend every other month was nice, but never having the same days off each week made planning any regular activities relatively impossible.

But I digress: on the night shift, Daylight Savings Time effected us twice a year (that is, if you worked either of those nights).
Pay went by the timeclock - so you'd be paid 8 hours whether you worked 9 hours in the fall or 7 in the spring.

Of course, everybody liked when we lost an hour on the night shift, but still got paid for 8, but many were upset about the extra hour in the fall when an additional hour was worked without any compensation.

A lot of my co-workers demanded an hour of overtime when they worked the once-a-year 9 hour shift, especially if the next time change fell on their day off and they didn't get to benefit from the shorter work hours.

The company considered that it balanced out, but that wasn't necessarily the case depending on where your days off fell.

[FilmBuff]

I could do without it. But in the meantime, it's not that hard to get used to (for me)

[doubledenim]

I’m all for the extra hour at night. Feels like it is easier to get stuff done inside during the morning and I don’t really care when the sun rises. When it’s dark at 6 pm, I care.

[The Rodent]

End it... In March one of the years, just have everyone who does the DST thing move their clocks forward 30 minutes, and then never have to move them at all ever again.

Problem solved.

[The Rodent]

Also... Dave Gorman is a genius...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vunESk53r5U

[Act III]

Happy time switch, everybody!
(Personally, I always wish we could always gain an hour instead of losing one once a year.)

The debate is on again over whether we should continue or eliminate Daylight Savings Time.

But on the news the other night, there was now a sub-debate within the side of ending the practice: if ended, should we stick with "regular time" or the "savings time"?

What say you?

If a permanent switch is made, make it be so that the maximum amount of daylight hours overlap with the natural waking time of the majority.

I was already exhausted and then lost that hour and ended up calling in and sleeping 14 hours.

[John McClane]

Daylight Savings Time is so last century.

Doesn't do a damn thing to help us save energy, and last I checked combines have spotlights.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm late today thanks to DST. Thanks DST.

[Austruck]

There's some research to suggest a real cost to switching: temporary upticks in accidents and the like. I'm a little skeptical of that, but it seems superficially plausible, and it's obviously a lot of trouble/thought to keep track of for everyone. That's gone down a lot now that phones just update on their own.

That said...man, do I enjoy my summers a lot more with DST. The hour in the evening is just a lot more useful and pleasant than the one early in the morning. And while I might be extrapolating from my own experience, it sure seems like getting up really early is less and less common, so it sure seems like a net gain.

So, in summary: I think I'd support DST as a permanent shift. And I'd prefer it as-is over not using it at all. But that might be because I play an insane amount of softball during the spring and summer so it makes my day to day life significantly nicer for like half the year.

As a night owl, I totally agree with this. Even just yesterday, the first evening after the time change forward, I got a little giddy that it was still a little light out at 7:30 p.m. here. I don't notice the light change in the mornings anyway, so I admit my preference for keeping things at DST all year long. I really hate when it gets pitch-black dark by about 5 p.m. in the winter. Makes me want to take up hibernation. :D

[Stirchley]

I’m all for the extra hour at night. Feels like it is easier to get stuff done inside during the morning and I don’t really care when the sun rises. When it’s dark at 6 pm, I care.

I think I’m the same way.

[doubledenim]

Daylight Savings Time is so last century.

Doesn't do a damn thing to help us save energy, and last I checked combines have spotlights.

That what they’re harvesting the bus stop children with these days? 😝

[Sedai]

Everyone needs to correct their posts to remove the s from Daylight Saving Time. This isn't a bank, folks, we are SAVING daylight! ;)

[Austruck]

Everyone needs to correct their posts to remove the s from Daylight Saving Time. This isn't a bank, folks, we are SAVING daylight! ;)

Sorry, dude, this is no longer true. Merriam-Webster now says that all of these terms are interchangeable. (There's a separate short article on this on their site, but I can't find it ATM.)

If people do/say things incorrectly long enough, even M-W caves and agrees with them. It's one of the fun parts about being a proofreader: nothing is constant.

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[Sedai]

Sorry, dude, this is no longer true. Merriam-Webster now says that all of these terms are interchangeable. (There's a separate short article on this on their site, but I can't find it ATM.)

If people do/say things incorrectly long enough, even M-W caves and agrees with them. It's one of the fun parts about being a proofreader: nothing is constant.

97926

I refuse to acquiesce! I shan't let the King's English be sullied with all sorts of balderdash, blarney, bosh, blather, bilge and hullabaloo! I say!

[Austruck]

I refuse to acquiesce! I shan't let the King's English be sullied with all sorts of balderdash, blarney, bosh, blather, bilge and hullabaloo! I say!

Hey, nobody here wants to agree with you more than I do. I hate that I have to keep buying new dictionaries and learning new grammar rules because the lowest common denominator of choices wins out every time. Ugh. Laziness of writers, speakers, people rules. It's ugly.

[Balor]

It breaks up the year.

[John McClane]

almost feel asleep driving to work this morning, and my heart feels fluttery.

[beelzebubble]

Hey, nobody here wants to agree with you more than I do. I hate that I have to keep buying new dictionaries and learning new grammar rules because the lowest common denominator of choices wins out every time. Ugh. Laziness of writers, speakers, people rules. It's ugly.
Are you an English teacher?

[Austruck]

Are you an English teacher?

Worse. I'm a writer and a proofreader. :)

[Captain Steel]

Everyone needs to correct their posts to remove the s from Daylight Saving Time. This isn't a bank, folks, we are SAVING daylight! ;)

Does this mean you or Yoda will correct the title for me?

[beelzebubble]

Worse. I'm a writer and a proofreader. :)
EEKS!!!

[Austruck]

Does this mean you or Yoda will correct the title for me?

The proofreader says it's fine the way it is.
Period.

[Sedai]

The proofreader says it's fine the way it is.
Period.

I guess this means the title stays! ;) :D

[John McClane]

I guess this means the title stays! ;) :D
how else you gonna claim the interest?

[Austruck]

I guess this means the title stays! ;) :D

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[Stirchley]

Sorry, dude, this is no longer true. Merriam-Webster now says that all of these terms are interchangeable. (There's a separate short article on this on their site, but I can't find it ATM.)

I always say daylight savings.

I refuse to acquiesce! I shan't let the King's English be sullied with all sorts of balderdash, blarney, bosh, blather, bilge and hullabaloo! I say!

Trust me, Charles III doesn’t give a rat’s ass about DST.

[liscarkat]

The way it's done doesn't make any sense. It should be reversed, so that daylight would last later in winter. We could use an extra hour of light then, and we could spare it in summer. We don't need June days to last until 9:00; 8:00 would be sufficient. But we sure could use December days that would last until 6:00 instead of only 5:00.

[Captain Steel]

The way it's done doesn't make any sense. It should be reversed, so that daylight would last later in winter. We could use an extra hour of light then, and we could spare it in summer. We don't need June days to last until 9:00; 8:00 would be sufficient. But we sure could use December days that would last until 6:00 instead of only 5:00.

Very interesting idea!

For those who seek compromise, maybe we could take that idea and split the hour by just adding a half hour of daylight in the winter, and having a half hour less in the summer?

[hownos]

it gets dark at 4pm in december. it's a bit early.

[FilmBuff]

I could do without it.

But I won't lose any sleep over it. At least if I'm lucky....

[honeykid]

It didn't used to bother me but about 6-7 years ago it started to mess with me. These spring one isn't as bad as the autumn one, but still affects me.