33rd Hall of Fame

[PHOENIX74]

https://i.postimg.cc/vBZrpVfb/HALL-OF-FAME-33.jpg

The 33rd Hall of Fame
All are welcome!
So many great movies out there to choose from. From obscure favourites, to all-time classics, every Hall of Fame throws up interested and varied films for us to either check out for the first time or watch again - there are literally 1000s of candidates out there!
Just PM me the name of the movie you want to nominate (after checking here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1836289#post1836289) to make sure it hasn't won a previous Hall of Fame) and in around a week from now I'll reveal the list of films we're about to discuss, review and vote on.



Procedure:

Movie Nominations: Any movie that you feel is worthy of an HoF, that's under 240 minutes can be nominated...Previous HoF winners are excluded. Movies that were HoF nominated in the past but didn't win are still eligible.

PM Me Your Nomination: Include the film's title & year of release...and a short write-up about why you nominated it. Keep your nomination a secret until the films are revealed.

Open Door Policy: For one week after the reveal of the nominations people can still join. This is also the time period in which to withdraw from the HoF if you've changed your mind. Look carefully at the movie nominations and make sure you can find & watch them. Members have 3 days to withdraw after the last movie is nominated. That way no one is ever forced to watch a movie that they are uncomfortable with.

Length of HoF: There will be approximately one week of viewing time per movie. So if there are 10 movie nominations the HoF will be about 10 weeks long. The deadline to finish will be posted after the HoF starts.

During the HoF: Everyone watches the nominated movies and will discuss them in this thread. You need to write at least a few sentences about your thoughts on each movie after you watch it. Part of the process is a shared discussion of the movies as a group. Note: If you've seen a movie recently or have seen it many times you can skip watching it, otherwise you have to watch all nominated movies.

Requesting Help to Locate Movies: If you have trouble locating a movie make a post and ask for help in the HoF. When responding with a movie link send it by private message, don't post links or embed films in this thread.

Dropouts: Members who don't finish will be disqualified and their movie nomination removed from the HoF. It helps to start watching the movies right away so that you don't have a bunch of movies to watch at the end. If for any reason you do need to drop out make sure and let me know that you can't finish.

Participation: An HoF is about participation, you can go at your own pace with one caveat: If a member is inactive with no movies reviewed for long periods of time I will contact them to see what's up. Depending on the situation I might place their movie in 'undetermined status' meaning the movie is not required to be watch at that time. Basically we don't want a situation where someone joins but never participates as we can't tell if that person has dropped out or not.

Past HoF Dropouts: Are welcomed but if they haven't completed an HoF since last dropping out they will need to watch all the movies, write the reviews and send in a voting list before their movie is officially listed and required to be watched.

Ballots: When you're done watching the nominations PM me your ballot. Once you've sent in a ballot it's not changeable so make sure you're happy with your rankings before sending it in. Keep your ballot private until after the reveal of the final voting results, then it's customary to post your ballot (voting list) once the HoF is all done.

Rules of Conduct:

No personal disputes or accusations are allowed on the HoF thread. If you have a complaint or suspect another member of being disingenuous with their nomination or criticisms of other films, etc do not post about it in the thread. Instead message the host with your concerns and the host will investigate and resolve it. This way people aren't airing grievances in the thread and if someone does seem to be a problem the host can privately speak to them and determine the best course of action. The host is in charge and settles disputes.

Negative movie reviews are of course allowed and are part of the HoF, but using a review to 'pay someone back' isn't allowed. If such reviews are posted the member will be messaged and asked to take out the snarky comments before linking them and flagging them as official.

If you have a difference of opinion regarding a film be respectful to other's viewpoints and debate the topic with an open mind and respect...and never make it personal.




I'll extend the deadline on this Hall of Fame seeing as the Noir and Neo Noir Countdowns are about to commence, and will take up some of our time over the coming weeks - so no need to worry about being too busy. There's plenty of time to settle the competition between the selected movies. I'll keep who nominated what anonymous until the end, but everyone is free to put their hand up and say "I nominated this or that movie". Please, keep debate, but don't argue.

Let's make this the best Hall of Fame we've ever had! Or at the very least the second best!

DEADLINE : MAY 31st

Please note : I'm operating under Australian Western Standard Time, which will feel a little unusual compared to other hosts. If you ever want to quickly check how it compares, then :

If you're on the West Coast of the U.S.A. add 15 hours
If you're on the East Coast of the U.S.A. add 12 hours
If you're in the U.K. add 7 hours

"Where's PHOENIX?" - He's probably sleeping.

Participants :

PHOENIX74 - (nomination locked in)
jiraffejustin - nomination received
John W Constantine - nomination received
edarsenal - nomination received
beelzebubble - nomination received
cricket - nomination received
Citizen Rules - nomination received
rauldc14 - nomination received
Siddon - nomination received
ScarletLion - nomination received
Hey Fredrick - nomination received

[PHOENIX74]

NOMINATIONS

https://i.postimg.cc/0jpq1SVR/aftersun2.jpg
Aftersun (2022)


https://i.postimg.cc/Gtkwp5TX/the-bank-job.jpg
The Bank Job (2008)


https://i.postimg.cc/8kby9wHk/beau2.jpg
Beau Travail (1999)


https://i.postimg.cc/vmMgJ7XM/gods-little-acre2.jpg
God's Little Acre (1958)



https://i.postimg.cc/RZm1tnrN/humani.jpg
L'humanité (1999) - Withdrawn


https://i.postimg.cc/xdbgZL00/macbeth.jpg
Macbeth (1971) - Disqualified


https://i.postimg.cc/6348RHpr/seasons2.webp
A Man For All Seasons (1966)


https://i.postimg.cc/0jd2dhRw/mona-lisa2.jpg
Mona Lisa (1986)


https://i.postimg.cc/SNgmS6yk/shoplifters2.jpg
Shoplifters (2018)


https://i.postimg.cc/FK3tL3Qf/there-will-be-blood2.jpg
There Will Be Blood (2007)


https://i.postimg.cc/vHSX3fSB/treasure.jpg
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)

[PHOENIX74]

REVIEWS


beelzebubble - ballot received :

Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2455312#post2455312)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2455563#post2455563)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2455857#post2455857)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2456927#post2456927)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2457252#post2457252)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458719#post2458719)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2459039#post2459039)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2462737#post2462737)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2463372#post2463372)

cricket - ballot received :

Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445254#post2445254)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446912#post2446912)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2448880#post2448880)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2451871#post2451871)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2453789#post2453789)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2459209#post2459209)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2460468#post2460468)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2462072#post2462072)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2463823#post2463823)


Citizen Rules - ballot received :

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445474#post2445474)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446128#post2446128)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2447734#post2447734)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2449710#post2449710)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2450368#post2450368)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2451891#post2451891)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2457497#post2457497)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458344#post2458344)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2461401#post2461401)


edarsenal - ballot received :

God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446992#post2446992)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446995#post2446995)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446996#post2446996)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2463010#post2463010)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2463023#post2463023)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2463634#post2463634)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2464174#post2464174)


Hey Fredrick - ballot received :

The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445399#post2445399)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446057#post2446057)
L’humanité (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446254#post2446254)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446736#post2446736)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2447407#post2447407)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2448904#post2448904)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2449549#post2449549)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2452149#post2452149)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2460533#post2460533)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2462795#post2462795)


jiraffejustin - ballot received :

Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2448912#post2448912)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2452384#post2452384)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458112#post2458112)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2459992#post2459992)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2461413#post2461413)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2464162#post2464162)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2464237#post2464237)


John W Constantine - ballot received :

Macbeth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2444675#post2444675)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2444678#post2444678)
L'humanité (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445305#post2445305)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445951#post2445951)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445952#post2445952)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445963#post2445963)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446084#post2446084)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446635#post2446635)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446658#post2446658)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446773#post2446773)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2447067#post2447067)


PHOENIX74 - ballot submitted :

Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458513#post2458513)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458763#post2458763)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2459076#post2459076)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2459255#post2459255)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2459559#post2459559)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2460389#post2460389)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2460624#post2460624)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2462178#post2462178)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2463889#post2463889)


rauldc14 - ballot received :

Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445925#post2445925)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2447514#post2447514)
L'Humanite (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2451352#post2451352)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2453072#post2453072)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2455061#post2455061)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2456786#post2456786)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458202#post2458202)
A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2458589#post2458589)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2460929#post2460929)
There Will Be Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2462456#post2462456)


ScarletLion (Withdrawn) :

Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445336#post2445336)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445631#post2445631)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2447723#post2447723)


Siddon (Disqualified) :

A Man For All Seasons (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2444451#post2444451)
Macbeth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2444466#post2444466)
Shoplifters (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2444801#post2444801)
God's Little Acre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2444866#post2444866)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445350#post2445350)
Aftersun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445462#post2445462)
Beau Travail (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2445641#post2445641)
Mona Lisa (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446024#post2446024)
The Bank Job (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2446028#post2446028)

[Siddon]

I'm in....gotta think about my nom.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm most likely in, I'll wait until the reveal to make sure. Thanks for hosting Phoenix!

[John W Constantine]

I'll probably join this one. Probably.

[rauldc14]

I'm in. Thanks for doing this!

[Thief]

I will probably stay in the sidelines, what with the Neo-noir countdown and countless other stuffs going on in my life... but who knows? I will check the reveals.

[PHOENIX74]

I will probably stay in the sidelines, what with the Neo-noir countdown and countless other stuffs going on in my life... but who knows? I will check the reveals.

I'm going to add a couple of weeks to the deadline because of the Countdowns, which many of us will be busy with (and which will dominate CR's and your time completely) - so I'm hoping that won't be an issue for many people.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm going to add a couple of weeks to the deadline because of the Countdowns, which many of us will be busy with (and which will dominate CR's and your time completely) - so I'm hoping that won't be an issue for many people.Thanks Phoenix. For me the countdown won't cut into my HoF time because my HoF watching will just take place during my usual relaxation movie watching period...Movie and dinner time that is, because the kitchen table never gets used!

[cricket]

I didn't watch a single movie in February but I think I'm in

[Citizen Rules]

I didn't watch a single movie in February but I think I'm inNot a single movie? What were you doing?

[cricket]

Not a single movie? What were you doing?

I watch less when me and wifey are getting along and we've been getting along, plus Celtics and work.

[Citizen Rules]

I watch less when me and wifey are getting along and we've been getting along, plus Celtics and work.TV series and sports then? I hope you're not working three jobs, yikes! Hope you join the HoF.

[Hey Fredrick]

Leaning towards yes, if I can find something worthy enough for all you cinephiles.

[Citizen Rules]

Leaning towards yes, if I can find something worthy enough for all you cinephiles.That's been my thought for the last few days. Guess I've come in last or next to last enough:D So gotta think hard on a good nom.

[cricket]

TV series and sports then? I hope you're not working three jobs, yikes! Hope you join the HoF.

My regular job is Tues thru Fri but I usually get home around 2-230. I work part time Fri, Sat, and Sun but just 2 1/2 hours per night. Don't actually need it but it's very much worth it. Another reason I don't watch as many movies now is because I go to sleep when I'm tired. I start at 5am so I try to be in bed 10-1030

[edarsenal]

looks like I'm in. Going with one I haven't seen since I was a kid. Should be a blast.

[cricket]

Sent my nom so no turning back now. Considered a few sick ones but went with something normal:p

[beelzebubble]

Pick something good guys, because I am in and I picked a great one.

[PHOENIX74]

A great bunch of films starting to coalesce here - very worthy, varied and interesting.

[edarsenal]

Pick something good guys, because I am in and I picked a great one.
I think I've got ya covered. It's definitely iconic that's for sure.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm hoping to join and if so I went with something that most haven't seen. Maybe Ed has? I guess we'll see:D

[rauldc14]

Sent my nom in

[beelzebubble]

Now we just wait for Siddon to send in his nomination.

[Citizen Rules]

Hopefully we have a great HoF and everyone participates this time from the get go...as opposed to waiting tell the last week to post their reviews. I just don't get that.

[John W Constantine]

Any more joining in? Anyone? I promise we don't smell.

[Citizen Rules]

Any more joining in? Anyone? I promise we don't smell.Maybe we need to do the @ mention thing? Sometimes people just don't see a thread when they logon to MoFo, so they don't even know about it.

[rauldc14]

Hopefully we have a great HoF and everyone participates this time from the get go...as opposed to waiting tell the last week to post their reviews. I just don't get that.

I agree with this. If you're going to wait forever and forever I just don't see the point of joining

[beelzebubble]

Maybe we need to do the @ mention thing? Sometimes people just don't see a thread when they logon to MoFo, so they don't even know about it.
Maybe Yoda could add a banner for the HOF when they come up. Not that I am trying to make more work for him.:D

[Yoda]

I'm open to it, but would need some notice/it would have to not conflict with anything. Which is tricky because we literally just had to delay the Oscar picks banner to make room for the noir list banner! :laugh:

[edarsenal]

Hopefully we have a great HoF and everyone participates this time from the get go...as opposed to waiting tell the last week to post their reviews. I just don't get that.

I agree with this. If you're going to wait forever and forever I just don't see the point of joining

Um, yeah, me too. Hate that. A lot.
https://media.tenor.com/eh4coYfNJG0AAAAM/nice.gif

[Citizen Rules]

Maybe Yoda could add a banner for the HOF when they come up. Not that I am trying to make more work for him.:D I think we're OK just using word of mouth and the @mention thing. It's worked for the last 32 HoFs:D

[PHOENIX74]

I sent a PM to the following as notice that a new Hall of Fame was starting : Allaby, CosmicRunaway, cricket, culliford, edarsenal, GulfportDoc, Hey Fredrick, James D. Gardiner, jiraffejustin, ScarletLion, skizzerflake, SpelingError, ThatDarnMKS, Thursday Next, Torgo, Wooley

If there are any possible HoFers that I've missed amongst those we can "@" them or let me know - I'd love juuuuust one more at least, but some might be waiting until the reveal to take that advantage.

[beelzebubble]

I sent a PM to the following as notice that a new Hall of Fame was starting : Allaby, CosmicRunaway, cricket, culliford, edarsenal, GulfportDoc, Hey Fredrick, James D. Gardiner, jiraffejustin, ScarletLion, skizzerflake, SpelingError, ThatDarnMKS, Thursday Next, Torgo, Wooley

If there are any possible HoFers that I've missed amongst those we can "@" them or let me know - I'd love juuuuust one more at least, but some might be waiting until the reveal to take that advantage.
Try Takoma.

[PHOENIX74]

Try Takoma.

I fear Takoma11 in on an extended break from the forums - but if she came and joined this Hall of Fame I'll be doing cartwheels around my living room. There's always long-shot hopes.

[PHOENIX74]

Here are the reveals for the films that have been nominated up to this moment. I'm pleased that we have something from the 40s, 50s, 60s 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s and 20s - we're only missing the 1970s really, and anything pre-40s. Each one of us nominated something from a different decade to the others.

So, in alphabetical order :

https://i.postimg.cc/0jpq1SVR/aftersun2.jpg
Aftersun (2022)


https://i.postimg.cc/8kby9wHk/beau2.jpg
Beau Travail (1999)


https://i.postimg.cc/vmMgJ7XM/gods-little-acre2.jpg
God's Little Acre (1958)



https://i.postimg.cc/6348RHpr/seasons2.webp
A Man For All Seasons (1966)


https://i.postimg.cc/0jd2dhRw/mona-lisa2.jpg
Mona Lisa (1986)


https://i.postimg.cc/SNgmS6yk/shoplifters2.jpg
Shoplifters (2018)


https://i.postimg.cc/FK3tL3Qf/there-will-be-blood2.jpg
There Will Be Blood (2007)


https://i.postimg.cc/vHSX3fSB/treasure.jpg
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)


And just a final reminder to Allaby, CosmicRunaway, culliford, GulfportDoc, Hey Fredrick, James D. Gardiner, jiraffejustin, ScarletLion, skizzerflake, ThatDarnMKS, Thursday Next, Torgo, Wooley and Siddon, MovieMeditation, Wyldesyde19, Miss Vicky, John-Connor, LAMb EELYAK, MovieGal, KeyserCorleone - extra time granted due to the two countdowns going on. Would love another nomination or two.

[Wyldesyde19]

I’m in the middle of mandatory OT on Saturdays again, so I won’t be able to devote any time to this.

That being said, I’ve seen 5/8 of the nominations.
Haven’t seen God’s Little Acre, Beau Travail or Aftersun yet, although I certainly know of them.

Mona Lisa is one I’m sure I’ve seen, anyways. It looks familiar and sounds familiar, but….if I did, it was so long ago my memory is hazy af

[John W Constantine]

Some heavyweights and few underdogs there.

[Siddon]

Why wouldn't you put those in order....anyways here comes a 70's nom

[CosmicRunaway]

Out of the nominations, I've only seen Shoplifters and Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and they're both great films I'd gladly watch again. Even though Aftersun made it into a few categories of the Film Awards last year, I didn't ever get around to watching it.

There Will Be Blood is one of those films that I keep saying I'll check out, but never do. No Country for Old Men was much the same, though I finally watched that one in preparation for the neo-noir Countdown, so it's too bad I can't participate and have a reason to sit down with There Will Be Blood as well.

It's kind of funny, because a few days before I got that PM about this HoF, I had been thinking I should join one again. But I've only been watching noirs and 2023 films for the last few months, and haven't really had time to think of a more general nomination. I'd rather not have to rush to find something, so maybe I'll see you guys in the next one instead?

[PHOENIX74]

Just what I was hoping for - a film from the 1970s to complete the set to a certain degree...

https://i.postimg.cc/xdbgZL00/macbeth.jpg
Macbeth (1971)


Added to the nominations on page 1.

[PHOENIX74]

It's kind of funny, because a few days before I got that PM about this HoF, I had been thinking I should join one again. But I've only been watching noirs and 2023 films for the last few months, and haven't really had time to think of a more general nomination. I'd rather not have to rush to find something, so maybe I'll see you guys in the next one instead?

Still got a week (or who knows, maybe more) in case something pops up and you feel the urge.

[rauldc14]

Looks like a cool hall.

[rauldc14]

Also, how insane that there is one nom from every decade 1940 and up!

[PHOENIX74]

Another new nomination has come in :

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L'humanité (1999)

[Torgo]

Have fun, everybody. After doing the Neo-Noir HoF and my own Albert Pyun project, I feel like going back to regular rotation if you know what I mean. Looks like a good one, though, especially with Aftersun, Beau Travail, Mona Lisa and Sierra Madre.

[edarsenal]

Quite a wonderful spread of films traversing the decades. VERY cool.

Aftersun (2022) Unknown to me, and a gut feeling said to run blind with just a short summary on IMDB, so I'm intrigued.

Beau Travail (1999) I remember being curious about this when it came out but never following through, so this'll be a pleasant opportunity.

God's Little Acre (1958) This MUST be CR, and no, I have not had the pleasure of seeing another dramatic turn by Tina Louise, so YAY

L'humanité (1999) This will be a rough one to weather, I think.

Macbeth (1971) Truly cannot remember if I've ever seen Polanski's rendition, but I do enjoy me some Shakespeare.

A Man For All Seasons (1966) Saw this a couple years ago and pretty happy to revisit.

Mona Lisa (1986) I'm pretty sold on checking this one out with Hoskins, Caine, and Coltrane. It looks pretty solid.

Shoplifters (2018) I ADORED this film and have been dying to see it again. How frickin awesome!

There Will Be Blood (2007) It's been some time since I last saw this, so I'm looking forward to revisiting it.

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) This one is mine, and I haven't seen it since I was but a pup, so pretty excited.

[Citizen Rules]

God's Little Acre (1958) This MUST be CR, and no, I have not had the pleasure of seeing another dramatic turn by Tina Louise, so YAY Good guess, but nope, but yeah for a hot babe! This time I went with a totally different nom that isn't what I normally pick.


The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) This one is mine, and I haven't seen it since I was but a pup, so pretty excited.Thought that might be yours, one of my favorites.

[edarsenal]

I am VERY surprised that God's Little Acre isn't yours. Now I'm curious to find out which is.

[PHOENIX74]

Another nomination comes rolling in :

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The Bank Job (2008)

[Siddon]

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A Man For All Seasons (1966)

The 1960's tend to get a bit of a bad rap when it comes to prestige pictures. The decade started off with Lawrence of Arabia and then a series of clones came out that were dry and unremarkable. A Man for All Seasons seemed to try and buck the trend telling a more intimate story in a film that should be a cinescope style epic but plays more like a procedural.

Paul Scofield was a working actor of little reknown whent he film came out...and he became a bit player in the decades post, however he was given this one magnificent role and he knocks it out of the park as Thomas More. The film is the story of the mad King Henry VIII and his desire to divorce his current barren wife and replace her with his new younger version. Robert Shaw plays the king and he's great in this. One of the things you really notice in the film is the excellent work from all the small parts. Orson Welles shows up in the begining, John Hurt is hanging around in the background, Vanessa Redgrave has a silent small cameo. The casting in this film is pitch perfect.

Paul's performance is fantastic, I think a normal take would be a man conflicted with his desire to stay alive. Or on the flip side you would think Moore would be a rebel...but rather what we see is a man steadfast and resolute in his choices, pushing up against a bureaucracy that wants this whole thing over and done with but it struggling with Moores' silent obstinate.

I wouldn't call the film a slough more a long march to the inevitable conclusion. Sometimes you can appreciate a film that doesn't try and do too much, rather focuses on execution. I think I have enough puns in there.

B+

[Siddon]

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Macbeth (1971)

Roman Polanski has made a number of films over the years often times playing with genre but sticking to mostly horror. His 1971 version of Macbeth is a film both of it's time and vastly ahead of it. The film has three major prongs going for it, the first of which is this is the play. This isn't some sort of butchered updating of Shakespeare this is the real dialogue and while it might seem like a choire for the viewer Polanski does two very clever things in this film. The first of which is he strips the film of all the glamour, this is a dark horific version of the story...as it should be. The central themes of coruption, madness, and evil are fully shown. Jon Finch gives a two pronged performance speaking boldly as a mad men to the rest of the cast but his inner monologue is filled with fear and doubt. And third aspect is it's strongest point and that's the cinematography.

Only the National Board of Review honored this film, this mostly had to do I believe because it was finaced by Hugh Hefner and rated X on it's release. Now the rating has been adjusted and it's no longer an X rater film because well it's clearly a hard R of a film. But all of that is beside the point...this film has so many things going for it. You are completely absorbed into this world as really you have no stars in the film. You only have the characters, ugly flawed and cynical. And yet it also has a dream-like quality to it thanks to an incredible and restrained score.

And finally the last act is filled with sadness, humor and reality giving us a final duel that is right up there with They Live. One of the things I do with my nominations is try and find and watch the best version of a story and present that to you guys. This is the best version of Macbeth and perhaps the best Shakespeare adaption ever made. I hope you guys enjoy it on a cold wet evening with a fire burning by your side.

A

[John W Constantine]

I guess I can get started on these. I'll try to have a few reviews up today.

[edarsenal]

great write-ups Siddon. FULL agreement with Scolfield knocking it out of the park. Felt exactly the same way the first time I saw this a couple of years back and I'm growing more and more curious to see Polanski's rendition of Macbeth after reading your review.

[edarsenal]

Another nomination comes rolling in :

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The Bank Job (2008)

I remember seeing this when it came out; it should be fun to revisit.

[cricket]

Seen and think highly of There Will Be Blood, Mona Lisa, Shoplifters, and Sierra Madre.

Seen All the King's Men and didn't like it simply because I don't generally like those types of movies. I'll give my best effort and try to immerse myself in it.

Speaking of those types of movies-Macbeth-ugh-well but it's directed by Polanski so I'm interested.

Don't know anything about Aftersun but it's already on my watchlist, love it when that happens. Must have read something positive here.

At first glance, The Bank Job looks like a run of the mill action film. That's ok because I like run of the mill action films and Jason Statham. Also, director Roger Donaldson has made several good films.

Not familiar with God's Little Acre, Beau Travail, or L'humanite. I see the director of the latter is Bruno Dumont who directed Twentynine Palms. If it's anything like that we could have some juicy controversy. It could be tame for all I know, but be careful who you watch it with!

[Siddon]

Speaking of those types of movies-Macbeth-ugh-well but it's directed by Polanski so I'm interested.



Very interested in seeing how Macbeth does in this Hall because it's visually on a different level than almost everything else in this Hall. On the other hand it is two hours of authentic Shakespearian dialogue

[John W Constantine]

Macbeth
(1971, Polanski)

In 11th century Scotland, Macbeth and his friend Banquo hear of a prophecy that leads to the murder of their king. After which, Macbeth and his ascension to throne does not come without serious consequences and the loss of his state of mind.

This time period for Polanski is certainly a turbulent one. Add this with his type of films he was producing at the time and birthed is this washed out (Scotland dreary?) canvas involving murder and madness of its king. The visuals (with that 70's tint) definitely kept my attention while struggling to digest the honest dialogue from Shakespeare. I respect it but it made this a difficult watch despite doing almost everything else in top form. Will definitely be digesting some of those visuals for a while with that unsettling score.

[cricket]

I'm going to try to hit one of these tomorrow

[John W Constantine]

Mona Lisa
(1986, Jordan)

George is a small-time crook just released from the joint. After failing to reconnect with his daughter and wife(ex?) he reunites with his old friend Thomas. In the process, George takes up a job driving for call-girl Simone. As their partnership becomes closer, Simone gives George a task of locating one of her colleagues from her earlier days in the business. But this leads to some unexpected difficulties.

I found this a pretty good entry with a great reveal/resolution at the end. I loved the banter between Hoskins and Coltrane during their time on screen. The partnership between George and Simone developed nicely leading up to the films bittersweet conclusion. But George finds a silver lining in the end.

[edarsenal]

Glad to hear a little bit about Mona Lisa, especially regarding Hoskin and Coltrane's banter.

[edarsenal]

Glad to hear a little bit about Mona Lisa, especially regarding Hoskin and Coltrane's banter.

I started up God's Little Acre last night. I'm about half an hour in. It reminds me a little Tobacco Road. Very curious to see where this one leads to.

[Siddon]

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Shoplifters (2018)

I feel like we get one of these films in every Hall and I don't see myself ever ranking these films near the top. This movement in Asian cinema is just dull to me, this film is classified as a thriller and it has elements in it. This is the story of a family of shoplifters, they don't just make a living shoplifting one works as a live fetish/stripper, another is a day laborer and the eldest is a pensioner. One day they come across a very young neglected girl and bring her into this family of thieves.

I saw this film about four years ago and it really doesn't hold up on repeat viewings. So much of the film is just a yarn, it's a story where when you remove the plot twists (that aren't really executed well) you are left with just blandness and banalities. I guess that's a style and a choice...Ozu made a lot of films like this

The film has some solid set design, the family lives in a crowded and cramped little three/four room house. When the family leaves the house some of the scenes are thrilling...to a point. It's a technically solid film but I don't think I could describe anyone in this film without having to rely on plot points. I think it's really just the genre I find dull.

B-

[Siddon]

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God's Little Acre (1958)

I mean part me has no clue why this film was nominated and another part of me well can kinda figure it out. This movie was just a mess to the point where it almost felt experimental. The first half hour of the film you think you are watching a comedy about poor people. Then an Albino shows up and the story ends up being camp but then the last third act it becomes this crazy melodrama.

I'm really curious about the motivations of the person who nominated this because I'm sure how to judge it. I was entertained much in way it's entertaining to flip through a series of channels, and yet I didn't hate the film I was just confused. Every young person in this film is incredibly good looking...except for Buddy Hacket who is both comic relief and part of a sex thing with one of the daughters.

C

[Citizen Rules]

God's Little Acre (1958)

I mean part me has no clue why this film was nominated and another part of me well can kinda figure it out.

I'm really curious about the motivations of the person who nominated this because I'm sure how to judge it.... What?...You're going to 'judge' the reasons why this movie was nominated? Haven't you had enough judging with the whole Daisies incident???

I'm sure ALL of the noms were chose by the members because they liked them, or believed they were interesting or thought they could win, etc. etc.

[John W Constantine]

**becomes curious....goes back through threads to check daisies incident **

[Torgo]

**becomes curious....goes back through threads to check daisies incident **Look up the Themroc incident from the 25th one while you're at it. Total DramaRama ($1 to Cartoon Network).

[Siddon]

What?...You're going to 'judge' the reasons why this movie was nominated? Haven't you had enough judging with the whole Daisies incident???

I'm sure ALL of the noms were chose by the members because they liked them, or believed they were interesting or thought they could win, etc. etc.


Speaking of mellodrama....


No I'm not saying this was picked in bad faith, but this movie is really weird. This film starts like Lil Abner and then becomes The Last Picture Show and switches on a dime. I don't really see the appeal in suggesting a film like this but I'm curous about the reasoning

[Citizen Rules]

Speaking of mellodrama....

No I'm not saying this was picked in bad faith, but this movie is really weird. This film starts like Lil Abner and then becomes The Last Picture Show and switches on a dime. I don't really see the appeal in suggesting a film like this but I'm curous about the reasoningOK that's fair enough, if you're saying it wasn't picked in bad faith....As you probably guessed God's Little Acre is mine and here's the reasons why I picked it.

Why did I chose it? Because I had fun watching it the one time viewing some years ago and wanted to see it again.

And because I remember it being an interesting film that I hoped people would either like or at least find interesting as it's an odd film and hoped that would spark conversation.

And because most members seem to want noms that aren't well known so I figured God's Little Acre hadn't been seen by most.

I also asked my wife about various noms and she liked this one more than some of the other films I had in mind. That's about it as far as my reasons go.

I had considered two different noms, both very popular films, but didn't go with them as I didn't want to make people have to set and watch a nearly 4 hour long film. Tina Louise is a plus, that's for sure! But no that wasn't the reason at all.

[rauldc14]

Themroc, Daisies, and In A Glass Cage. All awful

[PHOENIX74]

Themroc, Daisies, and In A Glass Cage. All awful

Someone once nominated In A Glass Cage? Wow - Hall of Fames in the past must have been pretty wild. I haven't seen it, but it sounds pretty extreme.

[John W Constantine]

Look up the Themroc incident from the 25th one while you're at it. Total DramaRama ($1 to Cartoon Network).
Wow, definitely an interesting group.

[PHOENIX74]

In the meantime, the reasoning behind our nominations can be varied - and that's what creates such an interesting mix of films every time around. If they were just filled with well-known classics every time, I wouldn't like Hall of Fames as much. But I always base my voting on the films themselves. The reasons behind each nomination shouldn't really play any part. You might just like to see how one of your lesser-known but interesting films will fare, or go for the win with a well-liked classic - after all, there are many Olympians in an event that have no chance of winning, but compete to see how they go. Diversity is best - and in my whole time participating in these things, I've never seen a nomination that's just been made in bad faith.

[John W Constantine]

**checks Phoenix74 participation hof records**

[jiraffejustin]

I love weird nominations. I wish there was more of them.

[John W Constantine]

Is the speed increase function the best technological advance in recent history of cinema? AFAF.

[Citizen Rules]

Is the speed increase function the best technological advance in recent history of cinema? AFAF.Ha, I just got that reference..someone's been reading past HoF threads!

[John W Constantine]

Ha, I just got that reference..someone's been reading past HoF threads!

Thanks Torgo.

[John W Constantine]

I love weird nominations. I wish there was more of them.

Is there a balance between weird and unwatchable?

[Torgo]

In the meantime, the reasoning behind our nominations can be varied - and that's what creates such an interesting mix of films every time around. If they were just filled with well-known classics every time, I wouldn't like Hall of Fames as much. But I always base my voting on the films themselves. The reasons behind each nomination shouldn't really play any part. You might just like to see how one of your lesser-known but interesting films will fare, or go for the win with a well-liked classic - after all, there are many Olympians in an event that have no chance of winning, but compete to see how they go. Diversity is best - and in my whole time participating in these things, I've never seen a nomination that's just been made in bad faith.Well said. As for the bolded, I think whoever picked My Dog Skip did it out of spite for all the controversial picks that people were making for a while. That's about it.

[jiraffejustin]

Is there a balance between weird and unwatchable?

I think that participating in a game where other people choose which films you watch comes with the risk of having to watch something you think is "unwatchable." So for me, I'm not worried about said balance. If I nominate something, you can be assured that I think it is worthy of being in a film hall of fame. You may think it's a stinky pile of shite, but I don't. I assume that goes for everyone who participates, so if I hate a film someone nominates, I just chalk it up as difference in tastes and don't complain about it.

[cricket]

Shoplifters

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I first watched this movie 3 years ago when it was chosen for me in a personal Recommendation HoF, which by the way will be coming back once the NBA season finishes up.

I feel the opposite of Siddon in that I think something like this is an excellent HoF choice. I was not as into the drama this time around but I was more into the characters. They remind me of addicts, except their addiction is bad choices. Of course shoplifting, although it can be understandable, is not a victimless crime and the father figure would eventually cross the line. I still found them to be sympathetic and likable, obviously having been dealt a bad hand in life. I found the way they lived and what they did to survive believable. The drama of how the "family" came to be is interesting and well done. Glad to have watched it again.

4

[Citizen Rules]

Personal Recommendation HoF... will be coming back once the NBA season finishes up.Hell yeah!

I watched Shoplifters in a PR HoF too and thought it was pretty great. It's the type of film you can just spend time with as it's not pushing all of your buttons but allows you to soak it in and just see what this 'families' like is like.

[Hey Fredrick]

I also watched Shoplifters in a PRHoF, the foreign language one. I really liked it but I also had to watch some real heavy hitting films in that HoF so it's placement on my final ballot may have made it look like I didn't care for it but nothing could be further from the truth. I usually don't like re-watches in HoF's but this is one I won't mind at all.

[Citizen Rules]

Who's going to help a poor MoFo out? I need me 'free' links for all these noms, preferably with English subs.

Aftersun (Charlotte Wells 2022)
Beau Travail (1999)
L'humanité 'Humanity' (Bruno Dumont 1999)
Macbeth (Roman Polanski 1971)
A Man For All Seasons (Fred Zinnemann 1966)
Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan 1986)
Shoplifters (Kore-eda Hirokazu 2018)
There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson 2007)
The Bank Job (Roger Donaldson 2008)

[cricket]

Who's going to help a poor MoFo out? I need me 'free' links for all these noms, preferably with English subs.

Aftersun (Charlotte Wells 2022)
Beau Travail (1999)
L'humanité 'Humanity' (Bruno Dumont 1999)
Macbeth (Roman Polanski 1971)
A Man For All Seasons (Fred Zinnemann 1966)
Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan 1986)
Shoplifters (Kore-eda Hirokazu 2018)
There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson 2007)
The Bank Job (Roger Donaldson 2008)

Half asleep but I know Shoplifters and The Bank Job are on Tubi

[beelzebubble]

Well I picked mine nom because I think it is an excellent film.

[John W Constantine]

L'humanité 'Humanity'
(1999, Dumont)

In a quiet little French town a rape and murder of a young girl calls Pharaon into it's investigation. If Pharaon seems a little out of it, well, it's because he is due to some unfortunate events in his recent past. He spends time with a girl down the street and her boyfriend on their trips together out and on the town. It seems like something to do, but again there is an investigation to be attended to.

This one has all the makings of being a straight point A to B story. It shows us the very simplistic lives of these small town inhabitants where daily events play out as things normally do. But as the simple story moves along in a almost dialogue light pretty image trip, little actions by the main character started to grab my attention as opposite of the simple structure throughout the story. We are made aware of a tragedy in the main characters history which as his story and investigation comes to a finale. When the credits rolled I was left wondering what exactly happened to our main character and his family. I normally go for this as long as it doesn't become overbooked. I dunno, maybe Im on drugs and overthinking a simple thing. Have a feeling this will divide this group.

[ScarletLion]

Shoplifters.

This is one of the films that elevated my interest in modern Japanese cinema and particularly Koreeda. I'd only seen his film 'Like Father, Like Son' before this one. After it, I watched 4 or 5 of his movies in a month or 2. It is heart rendering family drama at it's best. My review on release:

Hirokazu Koreeda is a master of cinema.

I'm still digesting this movie but I'm pretty sure it's one of the best of 2018. It is an absolute gem. A superb tale of love, kinship and what it means to be family. Morals are queried, and formalities are tested. Lily Franky, Sakura Andô and those 2 children are impeccable. The dialogue and characters are perfect.

Beautiful, beautiful cinema.


A truly great nomination. And his new film 'Monster' is one of his best too. Go and check it out.

[ScarletLion]

Speaking of mellodrama....


No I'm not saying this was picked in bad faith, but this movie is really weird. This film starts like Lil Abner and then becomes The Last Picture Show and switches on a dime. I don't really see the appeal in suggesting a film like this but I'm curous about the reasoning

Someone's literally nominated a Jason Statham action film in a Hall of Fame noms! An Anthony Mann drama from the 1950s really isn't a weird choice considering.

[Siddon]

Someone's literally nominated a Jason Statham action film in a Hall of Fame noms! An Anthony Mann drama from the 1950s really isn't a weird choice considering.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1189844-the_bank_job
80% on RT
69% Metacritic
7.2 IMDB

God's Little Acre
42% RT
6.5 IMDB

As I said before this isn't like one of those nominations with naked kids, or something like Themroc which is questionably bad. I was curious because the film was weird and average. The thing about the film is that it's not really a drama...or a western...or a comedy...or a romance it just kept switching genres to the point where it was almost unrecognizable. If you were going to nominate a melodrama from the 50's/40's you had a lot of great options. Kings Row, Peyton Place, Bigger Than Life, All That Heaven allows etc. etc. I was more curious about the choice because having to review the films...what can really be discussed about the film.

Now as for the Statham nomination...he's not Steven Segal or Jean Claude Van Damn or Chuck Norris. Statham has a solid top ten films and Roger Donaldson though inconsistent has made some top tier pictures. Now is it s a choice to go with The Bank Job over No Way Out one of the great neo-noirs...it's a choice but I can understand and see the reasoning. You are picking between a good film and a masterpiece versus an experimental melodrama during the heyday of melodramas.

[Siddon]

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The Treasure of Sierra Madre (1948)

A number of filmmakers who had success in the 30's/40's work hasn't really aged well. When you come across a filmmaker whose work holds up well it seems like it's a good idea to work through his body of work. So I guess after Maltese Falcon the next film up would be Treasure of Sierra Madre. I was actually thinking about nominated Heaven Knows Mr Allison a film that I think is underseen...but I'll hold off because I think someone is going to pick African Queen next.

Bogart and Huston come back together in this one, with Boggie now in the role that the other characters in Maltese were. The characer and performance in this film is so great. We're basically following a guy who isn't smart, isn't noble, isn't really that bad and we are watching him descend over the course of the film. Walter Huston plays an old timey prospector and he's fantastic in this. He got his career ending Oscar with this performance and you get it. The charisma and energy he brings to the roll in unmatched. Tim Holt plays the third man in the group...in a lesser film he would be the lead but here's he the more compass less is more.

The only quibbles I would have with the film is that visually it's not on the level of a classic. The bandits are a little campy and feel like they are wearing costumes and playing to stereotypes. I do wish the final act had a bit more restraint because it gets a little over the top. But still amazing film, fun watch.

A

[ScarletLion]

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1189844-the_bank_job
80% on RT
69% Metacritic
7.2 IMDB

God's Little Acre
42% RT
6.5 IMDB

As I said before this isn't like one of those nominations with naked kids, or something like Themroc which is questionably bad. I was curious because the film was weird and average. The thing about the film is that it's not really a drama...or a western...or a comedy...or a romance it just kept switching genres to the point where it was almost unrecognizable. If you were going to nominate a melodrama from the 50's/40's you had a lot of great options. Kings Row, Peyton Place, Bigger Than Life, All That Heaven allows etc. etc. I was more curious about the choice because having to review the films...what can really be discussed about the film.

Now as for the Statham nomination...he's not Steven Segal or Jean Claude Van Damn or Chuck Norris. Statham has a solid top ten films and Roger Donaldson though inconsistent has made some top tier pictures. Now is it s a choice to go with The Bank Job over No Way Out one of the great neo-noirs...it's a choice but I can understand and see the reasoning. You are picking between a good film and a masterpiece versus an experimental melodrama during the heyday of melodramas.

Why have you quoted ratings sites? Hall of Fame nominations aren't popularity contests, or we'd just have 12 Nolan films / Villeneuve films and The Shawshank Redemption in every time. The idea is to weeedle out good films, not popular films.

I'll watch the Bank Job because someone considers it worthy. Just as I'll watch God's Little acre.

Every one of these nominations means something to the person who nominated it. Questioning why they've been nominated is poor form.

[Siddon]

Every one of these nominations means something to the person who nominated it. Questioning why they've been nominated is poor form.


And I wanted to know why...out of curiosity you people are acting like it was an accusation. When someone picks something unusual...and God's Little Acre is unusual I just wanted to know why.

I don't think asking why someone selected a film is worth making a fuss about. I would remind you I picked films that have come last before..I chose My Dog Skip. The film came in last place, but I saw a lot of merit in the film...the idea of the unreliable narrator in a children's film was a topic that I thought was interesting. A selected To Live and Die in LA another film that came in last place I selected that film as a neo-noir mid budget film that illustrated the effectiveness of a pulpy story and a quality car chase...that Hollywood doesn't do anymore. And one of my first selections was Mr Freedom...one of the first super hero films that was also a black satire and indictment on the Vietnam war.

But once again...I was curious about the reasoning that's all.

[ScarletLion]

And I wanted to know why...out of curiosity you people are acting like it was an accusation. When someone picks something unusual...and God's Little Acre is unusual I just wanted to know why.

I don't think asking why someone selected a film is worth making a fuss about. .

Err okay. I expect the answer will be the same answer that anyone in the HoF will give for choosing what they chose.

[Hey Fredrick]

The Bank Job (2008)


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A Statham movie in a Hall of Fame? Whoever nominated this should probably be banned from all future HoF's, don't ya think? I mean what are we even doing here?

Anyway, a woman, Martine (Saffron Burrows) gets busted trying to bring some cocaine into England. Was she set-up? Hmmm, maybe but who cares. It doesn't matter. Knowing her background, the authorities offer her a chance for immunity. See there's this guy that they've been wanting to nab, a kind of revolutionary figure whose been a bit of a thorn in the side of the government. The police (MI5 or 6?) believe he has some rather embarrassing photos of a member of the royal family stashed in a safe deposit box that he will release to the public should anything happen to him. As long as he has them photo's he's untouchable. Martine is tasked with getting together a crew and getting those photographs. She goes to an ex, Statham, who has a history of small time crimes but nothing like this. He's a family man now but things are getting tight for him so he agrees to do it. He recruits his team and they rob the bank's safety deposit boxes and kick one hell of a hornets nest in the process. Seems a lot of people keep a lot of VERY private shit in them little boxes. Things that could ruin lives. They piss off everybody - from high up government officials to a local porn producer - and they want their scalps!

I really liked this one. There isn't anything deep going on here. It's not a masterpiece by any stretch. It's simply entertainment, done well. If you're expecting high octane action this isn't that movie. It's not Crank but what it does have in common with that film is it has absolutely no chance of winning one of these HoF's. But I've watched worse.

[Citizen Rules]

And I wanted to know why...out of curiosity you people are acting like it was an accusation. When someone picks something unusual...and God's Little Acre is unusual I just wanted to know why.Probably because you said you could judge the motivations of the person who nominated God's Little Acre.

God's Little Acre (1958)
I mean part me has no clue why this film was nominated and another part of me well can kinda figure it out...

I'm really curious about the motivations of the person who nominated this because I'm sure how to judge it.
So please go ahead and judge.....feel free to tell us what my real motivations were for choosing God's Little Acres.

[Siddon]

Probably because you said you could judge the motivations of the person who nominated God's Little Acre.
So please go ahead and judge.....feel free to tell us what my real motivations were for choosing God's Little Acres.


Well I don't know what you can discuss when you nominated a film like this. A big part of this competition/project is discussion and when you put out a film like God's Little Acre what are you leaving for discussion other than the tonal/genre changes in the film.

[SpelingError]

I think some people really need to be more open minded towards weird/unconventional nominations and to not assume the worst intentions possible of those who nominated them. The level of drama/dogpiling over some of the prior HoFs were beyond tiring to read through and why I withdrew from participating in them.

[Siddon]

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Aftersun (2022)

This film was on my radar after Paul Mescal's Oscar Nomination for his lead work. Looking into this film it's a debut project from a first time female director/writer and promoted and launched by A24. A24 has somewhat of a mixed track record with me and coming of age films as they can be fatiguing and redundant. Aftersun is not bad...it's actually pretty good.

The big thing that this film/story has is a mood/vibe. We're getting a story of a young father on Holiday with his per-pubescent daughter. The daughter is about to turn 12 and we're seeing her come to terms with certain realities of her flawed but well meaning father. The story takes place in the later 90's mostly to keep cell phones out of the story and to focus on the directors autobiographical feelings of this film.

The film is focused on tackling several major themes and once again we're dealing with the sexualization of chidren. I will credit the filmmaker for treating it with sensitivity but the film has sort of a weird horror tease...a great sense of forboding when the shoe is going to drop and something bad is going to happen.

But then nothing happens and we find out she grew up to be a lesbian. And that's kinda my problem with a story like this in that it's very nebulous and leaves us with a sense of the banal. The film ends up just being a character study and then it ends.

Visually it's a solid film, it doesn't feel elevated past student film but it's also shot well enough that it's not a distraction. The biggest criticism that I would have is that it really feels low budget at times. Most of these direct to streaming site films are 4 actors in a place this is really just the 2. You also don't really get that it's a period piece with music choices that are all over the place. But these are quibbles...it's a strong film and good nom.

B+

[Siddon]

I think some people really need to be more open minded towards weird/unconventional nominations and to not assume the worst intentions possible of those who nominated them. The level of drama/dogpiling over some of the prior HoFs were beyond tiring to read through and why I withdrew from participating in them.


So you aren't participating now...the movie is available on Tubi so why don't you review it and talk about it. End of the day these films are being put out to be watched, reviewed and ultimately judged.

[Citizen Rules]

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The Treasure of the Sierra Madre


3rd or 4th time rewatching this John Huston classic tale of greed and it's aftermath on three gold prospectors. This is one of my favorite Bogart films but it's Walter Huston, the director's father who steals the show. I'm pretty sure the character in the animated Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer (1964) Klondike Cornelius was pattered off of Walter Huston's character. Most movies have some script problems or plot holes were something illogical or unsensible takes place and you left thinking if only the director had done this instead...but not here, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre has one well oiled script that delivers the goods.

Forgot to say kudos for filming in Mexico and using many Mexican citizens and actors. Loved Gold Hat and the badges line, best part of the movie.

[Citizen Rules]

Please everyone, let's drop this now before it escalates, we've all had our say and nothing good will come from more talking about it.

[PHOENIX74]

Why oh why do people only fight when I host...

Like CR said, the whole issue of why certain noms are nominated has been well and truly debated, and I'm only one more snarky post away from shutting this one down and walking away from it. Some people just don't understand why people get upset when they get personal about a nomination instead of just focusing on the film. We've already had a large exodus because of the way these things are getting, and along with me shutting this one down, I wouldn't be coming back for any more either.

[ScarletLion]

My thought on The Treasre of the Sierra Madre

A classic that I took way too long to get around to. Bogart is magnificent as the paranoid and greedy Fred C. Dobbs. Lots of tension and backstabbing in the mountains. Director John Huston cast his father as the part of Howard, and he stole the show for me.

8.6/10

Also puts alot of meat on the bones of other films that have paid homage to it, like the line in Blazing Saddles.

[ScarletLion]

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Aftersun (2022)

This film was on my radar after Paul Mescal's Oscar Nomination for his lead work. Looking into this film it's a debut project from a first time female director/writer and promoted and launched by A24. A24 has somewhat of a mixed track record with me and coming of age films as they can be fatiguing and redundant. Aftersun is not bad...it's actually pretty good.

The big thing that this film/story has is a mood/vibe. We're getting a story of a young father on Holiday with his per-pubescent daughter. The daughter is about to turn 12 and we're seeing her come to terms with certain realities of her flawed but well meaning father. The story takes place in the later 90's mostly to keep cell phones out of the story and to focus on the directors autobiographical feelings of this film.

The film is focused on tackling several major themes and once again we're dealing with the sexualization of chidren. I will credit the filmmaker for treating it with sensitivity but the film has sort of a weird horror tease...a great sense of forboding when the shoe is going to drop and something bad is going to happen.

But then nothing happens and we find out she grew up to be a lesbian. And that's kinda my problem with a story like this in that it's very nebulous and leaves us with a sense of the banal. The film ends up just being a character study and then it ends.

Visually it's a solid film, it doesn't feel elevated past student film but it's also shot well enough that it's not a distraction. The biggest criticism that I would have is that it really feels low budget at times. Most of these direct to streaming site films are 4 actors in a place this is really just the 2. You also don't really get that it's a period piece with music choices that are all over the place. But these are quibbles...it's a strong film and good nom.

B+

Aftersun is semi autobiographical. It's the telling of Director Charlotte Wells real youth.

So the idea that it's set in the 1990s " to keep cell phones out of the story" is way off.

The entire story is about how her father lives in aguish at the thought that he has passed his mental frailty onto his daughter. We see this through the footage that she rediscovers.

[Siddon]

Aftersun is semi autobiographical. It's the telling of Director Charlotte Wells real youth.

So the idea that it's set in the 1990s " to keep cell phones out of the story" is way off.

The entire story is about how her father lives in aguish at the thought that he has passed his mental frailty onto his daughter. We see this through the footage that she rediscovers.


I would say that the film is more about a young girl coming to grips with her fathers weaknesses. That this is the last time the father is really going to be in her life as she's become aware of the world around her. I think the story is more about looking back in regret into her what I would assume is the age her father is during the flash forwards.

[rauldc14]

Let's keep it rolling kids! I'm almost done with Beau Travail. Review coming today!

[Siddon]

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Beau Travail (1999)

So this movie made the top 100 list on Sight and Sound, the film ranked fairly highly so I was somewhat expecting someting a bit better. This is Clair Denis retelling and updating of the classic Melville story Billy Budd. Though it should be noted this film does not have a traditional narrative structure. I think it's polarizing nature gave it it's popularity in that the film is unique I just didn't care for it.

The story now takes place in Africa with an outpost of French soldiers. You kind of get a vague grasp of the three main characters...the new soldier, the sergeant, and the commander. But it's only sort of because the film maker is more concerned with gving us endless montages of the day to day work/life of the soldiers. The idea I think is to dehumanize the characters in thes story. Most of the action happens off screen I think this was mostly done for budgetary reasons.

Things happen in this film but Denis is more interested in giving up a long shot of the men doing laundry than actually establishing the characters. This is a choice and it's really not my thing. The visuals are the strongest element of the film...Denis is poetic in her filming but the entire time I felt like if the camera moved six inches to the left I would have been taken out of the story. I can understand why this film was nominated and I'm glad to have watched it...but I didn't particularly enjoy it.

B-

[rauldc14]

Beau Travail

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Admittedly I get rather bored to death with some of these war movies that really don't centralize on any characters. And yes I get that that is done intentionally it seems by Denis but that still is ineffective for me. I will say that the film looks really good, but it's story isn't anything for me to grip onto. I'd rather learn about the characters and what they are going through and there just isn't enough of that here for me. Not having that aspect working for it really makes the film a drag and I feel like I slogged my way through it. I can certainly see aspects where it would be well worth looking into more Denis films though.

2

[John W Constantine]

The Bank Job
(2008, Donaldson)

Terry Leather (....yes that is his name) is your ordinary ex-con turned small time car dealer trying to make ends meet with his friends and family. When a woman from his past shows up with a plan to rob a bank with him and some of his associates, Terry sees it as a way to escape from the less than good financial situation for him and his family. When the action takers finally pull off the heist to eliminate their tough situations they have unexpectedly raised the stakes to another level with the contents they happen to acquire in the cases.

Statham takes a break from kung fu'ing mofos to plan a heist. This gave me vibes of some of the early 60's capers, like The Great Escape and Le Trou but set in the London 70's with ex-con car dealership employees, if that makes sense. Statham brings his usually snarling charm to the proceedings and the film presents a sort of above average juggling act with all the players involved. Lots of female nudity. This wasn't bad for an average Statham vehicle with some things thrown in.

[John W Constantine]

God's Little Acre
(1958, Mann)

Ty Ty Walden has spent the better part of the last 15 years digging up dirt on his family farm looking for gold. While other members of his kin navigate through those days experiencing everything from perceived marital problems, booze, workers issues, and lord knows what else.

Man, kind of hard what to say about this thing. I assume most of you guys are going to struggle with this one because I did myself. I'm wondering if someone from Hollywood visited a state in the south once and just decided that "all" southern people sound like they were taken from a stage play. The accents in this movie made this such a chore to sit through where I almost couldn't focus on anything else, which is to say the actual story won me over. Robert Ryan in his obsessed actions to dig up every single plot of his land is beyond insanity. Only in the end to remember his faith triumphs over the gold stuff. I don't think any of the other characters did much for me and Ryan's over the top performance tried my patience in trying to make it to the finish line with this.

[John W Constantine]

There Will Be Blood
(2007, Anderson)

Daniel Plainview is a man of ambition, he has a competition in himself that doesn't want anyone to succeed. After discovering oil in parts of California he begins a highly profitable business. But his ambition for riches conflicts with the character of Eli Sunday who happens to have a church in the small area near Plainview. These two personalities conflict as one man's faith is pitted against another's ambition.

DDL's performance as Plainview has been my favorite since this debuted in 2007 when I was getting serious about films. All the technical achievements mixed with the character works has made this a favorite over the years although I don't think it has ever become a T100 favorite for me but I can't deny the craft that went into making this. A true classic and worthy choice.

[Siddon]

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Mona Lisa (1986)

I'm pretty happy to see people diving into the adult neonoirs of the 80's/90's. One of the things I miss most about modern films is you rarely get to see adults and complicated sexual situations. And I don't think you would ever see a pairing like this is in a modern film. Bob Hoskins plays a middle aged man recently released from Prison. When he goes to track down his old buddy (Michael Caine), Caine sets him up as a driver for a high class call girl.

Now is it a little weird for a middle-aged man to try and wrap his head around the sex industry...yes. But when you get past the stuff that's dated you have a fairly provocative film. You have a elevator in particular with a pimp that is just cinematic perfection, it's simple but it works so well. And while I'm not crazy about violence towards women in film at the very least this film handles it better than most. They aren't just throwaway scenes but they build on each other. The final act is also a real standout...one of the things I've noticed in this hall is so many films here don't stick the landing. Even Treasure the weakest part of the film is the last 10 minutes. Really solid nom...hope to see it show on the neo-noir countdown.

B+

[Siddon]

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The Bank Job (2008)

The British crime genre explosion of the late 90's was in it's dying days in 2008. So here we have a period piece noir trueish story about a group of bank robbers, MI5, and Drug lords. And yeah this movie bounces around a lot but unlike Gods Little Acre they don't switch genres they are just telling one expansive story. And the film feels very different than most heist films. The first thing you notice is that the heist is the least exciting part of the film, the story gets more interesting after the heist than during it.

One of the things I admire about this filmmaker is he doesn't follow the same rules as everyone else. You get sex and violence at different points in the film with characters that would normally be "safe". The body count in this film is surprisingly high but more interesting is the tone, it's basically stripped of sentimentality or suspense. I also found the script to be very strong as I could follow all the characters very easily, the filmmaker was very economical with everyone's screen time but they were established well. You don't see that anymore.

Now...is Jason Statham good in this....no he's the worst part. He's miscast and far to young to play a father and leader of a gang like this. Jason drags the film down from being great but it was still pretty good and the time flew by.

B

[Hey Fredrick]

Mona Lisa (1986)


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Bob Hoskins is George, a recently released prisoner who lands a job for his old boss driving around an expensive call girl, Simone (Cathy Tyson). It's an oil and water mix at first with George not really understanding what's expected of the role. Discretion is appreciated by Simone in some of the high class hotels and George looks like he's ready to have a pina coloda on the beach. They work through their issues and end up in a pretty cordial relationship with George being somewhat protective of Simone. Once the friendship is established Simone lays a little bit of her past on George and asks him for help finding an old friend, who is actually quite young and involved in the same work as Simone. So the search is on. Of course there are people who don't want any of this extracurricular stuff taking place, mainly Georges boss played by Michael Caine and Simone's last pimp, played by Clarke Peters (The Wire)

I have to agree with Siddon about the elevator scene. When watching that scene I was thinking "This is kind of fantastic." It's the highlight of a really good movie. The movie also made me chuckle a few times with quick little lines or when when George tries ordering some tea in one of the more luxurious hotels. All of the main performers do a very good job. There's a bit of a side story going on with George and his daughter. It's not a huge part of the film but I'm glad they put it in as it helps fill out Georges character. Even though he did time, he's not a bad guy. I also really enjoyed how the film takes us through the uppity hangouts of England and down into the gutters. If I had a gripe it's that I thought the ending was a bit abrupt but it's not bad. Good nomination.

[John W Constantine]

A Man For All Seasons
(1966, Zinnemann)

England circa 1529, Cardinal Wolsey has attempted to sway the pope in hopes of being granted an annulment for King Henry VIII and his bride Catherine of Aragon. Sir Thomas More, our main character, is the only member of the council to oppose Wolsey's proposition, which causes some friction and curiosity. Sir Thomas then faces many challenges from seemingly all types of characters in pursuit for Thomas to change his stance and faith in regards to blessing the divorce and new wife for Henry VIII.

Paul Scofield's performance is one my favorites and this film and his character are one I could revisit very often. The story of More as a man of ultimate conscience and faith in this story where seemingly no one is above testing him on these fronts over a perceived slight acknowledgment is a treat to watch play out. Great choice.

[Citizen Rules]

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Beau Travail


I hate to use the 'B' word but my gawd was this boring. Nothing engaged me and I have a new dislike for the director who made a nothing film composed of various camera shots of unusual places in Northern Africa. Then writes a voice over narrative to put her collection of shots together. That's not film making, that's photography.

There's no story here, no world building, no character depth, no emotions generated, nothing explored...it's just a collection of shooting locations with interesting backgrounds....Scenes, if you can call them that, start in the middle and end with no rhyme or reason. The scenes add nothing to the story outside of a few key scenes towards the end of the film. I have a hard time believing someone got financing to make this. I did like the director's film White Material, but find Beau Travail to be hollow. For me the only redeeming aspect was being able to see the natural terrain of Djibouti.

[Hey Fredrick]

L’humanité (1999)

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Well, that was something. I really don't know what to make of this. I think I got what it was going for but it's not at all what I expected. A young girl is found dead, raped and there's an investigation. The thing is this movie isn't about that at all. In fact, it makes up a tiny portion of the film. It's about Pharaon.

We follow around Pharaon who is a Lieutenant in the local police force who starts out investigating the rape/murder. Pharon's wife and child died a few years earlier and he's seems to be suffering from severe depression from it. They never tell you what happened to his family only that something did. Following him around reminded me of following Chance around in Being There. He seriously has no emotion, expressions, anything except in maybe a couple of scenes. We follow him a bit with the investigation but mostly it's about the relationship with his neighbor Domino and, to a lesser extent, her boyfriend Joseph and it's a strange threesome.

This is a movie that's gonna make you wonder about a lot of things. I think the ending kind of puts everything in it's place but who knows. It's a very deliberately paced film with not a whole lot of dialogue compared to it's runtime. In spite of that I didn't think that it dragged, although I'm sure some will feel that it's dragging like a mf'er. There are a few scenes that are going to raise some eyebrows, I'm sure of that. One in particular towards the end had me wondering why? It seems so gratuitous but it's also very similar to a shot earlier in the film so perhaps there's a connection?

Did I like it? Not really but I didn't hate it either. To me, it's a cold, emotionless film yet there's something about it that keeps me from really disliking it.

[PHOENIX74]

IMPORTANT INFORMATION

Due to the considerable amount of complaints I've been receiving, and the fact that some want to withdraw from this Hall of Fame while Siddon is still a part of it, I've decided to ban him from further participation. Because he's reviewed so many of the films already, and is so close to finishing, I've extended him the possibility to still send in a ballot after he watches the remaining films, rather than disqualifying his entry. I've also extended the courtesy of him posting once more, if he needs to say anything, but absolutely no more than that. If he comes out with fighting words, it'll be disqualification and further sanctions.

I didn't want to have to do this, but with the situation the way it was I felt like shutting the whole thing down - and it's been pointed out to me privately that this wouldn't be fair to everyone else. Siddon broke the rule of not sticking to the actual films, and bringing the person who nominated them into the discussion - which caused the predictable trouble that always does. This upset too many people in the end, and so I had to act.

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[Hey Fredrick]

Just in case anybody thought I was serious about putting whomever nominated a Statham film for a HoF on blast or that they should be banned from future HoF's, I thought it was kind of obvious but just in case it wasn't - I nominated it So I wasn't tearing anybody down. I don't do that kind of stuff, never have since I've been here and it also wasn't a troll nomination. I think it's a really good, fun movie that a lot of folks here haven't seen. I'm pretty careful about picking films based on who's participating. I try not to pick anything too extreme, maybe to the point of being vanilla. I know some people have problems with certain types of films that I find entertaining so I try to steer clear of nominating any of my favorite cannibal, revenge, slasher, gore flicks with tons of gratuitous nudity and pointless sex even if they are pretty good. However, if you want some recommendations for your own private viewing of some great cannibal, revenge, slasher, gore flicks with tons of gratuitous nudity and pointless sex I could probably find a few good ones for ya.

[jiraffejustin]

I'm pretty careful about picking films based on who's participating. I try not to pick anything too extreme, maybe to the point of being vanilla. I know some people have problems with certain types of films that I find entertaining so I try to steer clear of nominating any of my favorite cannibal, revenge, slasher, gore flicks with tons of gratuitous nudity and pointless sex even if they are pretty good. However, if you want some recommendations for your own private viewing of some great cannibal, revenge, slasher, gore flicks with tons of gratuitous nudity and pointless sex I could probably find a few good ones for ya.

I think you should start nominating cannibal, revenge, slasher, gore flicks. I almost nominated the 1990 Candyman, which is pretty tame, all things considered, but went with something more dramatic. I think I might start nominating a horror film every now and then, because that would be representative of what I think belongs in the hall of fame. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre deserves a spot next to Casablanca.

And thinking of that made me think of this: I think maybe we should consider theme hall of fames non-canon and allow winners of those in the general halls. I've recently changed my stance on that as before I was on the other side of the fence. But that might be another topic for another day in another thread.

[PHOENIX74]

Siddon has told me he isn't going to respect my decision and go on posting anyway. His nom is disqualified.

[Siddon]

Siddon has told me he isn't going to respect my decision and go on posting anyway. His nom is disqualified.

1. You've been reported to the moderator. Feel free to post the full PM if you wish.

2. The rule of questioning the motivation of posters submissions is a rule I clearly attempted to follow. However you have informed me that many of you conspire not to contribute in these Halls because of me. From my perspective that seems to me that I need to question every ballot, every review, every poster and that the rule of not questioning the motivations of posters is a bad one. Is it possible that people are voting personally, I'd like to think no...It's sad that you guys are out to get me. But when the person running one of these says...people are out to get you and this is the third Hall in a row where I've had my ballot threatened to throw out...had my film watched with subtitles and held off from being used and now some strange "ban". A guy has to wonder.

3. You made it clear that I was not allowed to defend myself in this thread. Or I'm only allowed to defend myself based on your standards. We can go back to the motivation rules...if you are saying I'm going to remove you from a Hall if you say something I don't like that sets a dangerous precedent. Where is the line and what gives you the right to do that. The idea that you only want your friends in these Hall's doesn't even seem remotely okay in my eyes.

4. Your "ban" doesn't address the last two reviews I am going to post. Which I have every intention of posting. I'm also going to discuss my nominated film with any person that chooses to watch my pick.

5. If people have a personal problem with me...I don't care. If you don't like me you don't have to talk to me. I'm not really seeking out conversations with people that hate me. I've dealt with a number of things and accusations on this forum and I've moved on...but I keep notes and don't forget.

6. What is not in dispute is I will finish the hall, write the final two reviews and submit the ballot. And if my work isn't recognized I'm not just going to shut up about it. I'll bring it up...all the time in every hall of fame. I'm not doing this to be a dick but I will not be bullied out of threads and have my time wasted. I think it's very telling that many of you are complaining in private but not to my face.

[Siddon]

I also hope the irony of trying to remove Macbeth from this Hall isn't lost on many of you.


Oops....just made a second post I brokes a rule.

[jiraffejustin]

I really think there is an easy fix here:

Let's not kick Siddon out. If you think he's an annoying prick, just ignore him. These games are supposed to be about the movies and not the people nominating them. I don't take into consideration who nominated a film when I judge it, because that person doesn't have anything to do with the film. Unless there is something that happened in the thread that was deleted or something going on behind-the-scenes, I don't think Siddon didn't anything that really deserves a banning. I don't know if general unpleasantness is enough.

[PHOENIX74]

I really think there is an easy fix here:

Let's not kick Siddon out. If you think he's an annoying prick, just ignore him. These games are supposed to be about the movies and not the people nominating them. I don't take into consideration who nominated a film when I judge it, because that person doesn't have anything to do with the film. Unless there is something that happened in the thread that was deleted or something going on behind-the-scenes, I don't think Siddon didn't anything that really deserves a banning. I don't know if general unpleasantness is enough.

There are people who want out of this Hall of Fame because of Siddon and his behaviour. That's what prompted me to think things over, people don't want to do this anymore, and as of now I don't either. It's no fun. It's just fighting all of the time. I'm tired of it, and so are a good many of us.

[Siddon]

There are people who want out of this Hall of Fame because of Siddon and his behaviour. That's what prompted me to think things over, people don't want to do this anymore, and as of now I don't either. It's no fun. It's just fighting all of the time. I'm tired of it, and so are a good many of us.


Guess I have to break the rule again by responding.

It's not okay to say I don't want to post in this thread because Siddon is also participating in this thread. Calling my "behavior" into question for reviewing films and discussing is this not the point of a discussion board. I stand by every review I have ever made, and I've been very consistent about the things I don't like.

If people wish to leave this thread because I'm in it, that's something that person needs to be accountable for. You are the sum of your actions. But spare me the sanctimony that I'm doing something wrong. The idea that I'm breaking some nebulous rule when you just admitted that people are campaigning to remove me from this thing that I've dedicated my time to.

I can deal with not being liked or friends with anyone here but don't play the victim when you are clearly just being a bully.

[Siddon]

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There Will Be Blood (2008)

When There Will be Blood starts Daniel Plainview is a man near death. Working as an oil man he works in a pit digging and trying to get oil. It's established early on that Daniel can die at any time from falling debris. During an early scene in the film the man working beside him is killed and Daniel is left with a baby in a bin. We then see Daniel elevate himself as a salesman of sort, selling himself to different communities to get work. He pitches himself well but if things don't go well he moves onto the neighbor. This is working fine for him until one day a man shows up to sell him.

A lot of there will be blood feels biblical. It's broken up into little chapters each one offering a bit a parable. And while the stories are simple the inferences between each one is not. Plainview is not a simple villian or an anti-hero or a hero. He needs to justify his actions but he's also a man boiling with rage. It feels like the old testament, but I do believe he's a man worth condemning.

Paul Dano plays the role of a preacher and a brother and his parallels to Daniel are fascinating. One of the things I forgot is how Plainview still uses him. When one of his men is killed he tells him to find his family. It's a throwaway line but it sums up Plainview's character. He claims that he knows the men that work for him...but that was a lie. Dano goes on his own journey off screen and the ending offers as many questions as it does answers

This isn't my favorite PT Anerson film, I think it's part of his religious trilogy (The Master. Magnolia, and There Will be Blood). You can kind of see it's visual short cuts but the story is so rich and the performance...do you really care.

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[rauldc14]

Let's movie on!

[John W Constantine]

I like movies. Most of the time.

[Hey Fredrick]

I really think there is an easy fix here:

Let's not kick Siddon out. If you think he's an annoying prick, just ignore him. These games are supposed to be about the movies and not the people nominating them. I don't take into consideration who nominated a film when I judge it, because that person doesn't have anything to do with the film. Unless there is something that happened in the thread that was deleted or something going on behind-the-scenes, I don't think Siddon didn't anything that really deserves a banning. I don't know if general unpleasantness is enough.


I'm in this boat. I don't see any reason to ban somebody when you can just put them on ignore. That's why it's there. He's got one movie left. Put him on ignore for the rest of the HoF or forever if you want and let's move on.

[cricket]

I either don't remember or wasn't part of past HoF drama. I re-read Siddon's posts here starting with his write-up of God's Little Acre, and personally I didn't see anything offensive or controversial. Is it possible that some of you overreacted due to past issues? Judging the posts in this thread as a sole entity I just don't see anything problematic.

[beelzebubble]

I'm in this boat. I don't see any reason to ban somebody when you can just put them on ignore. That's why it's there. He's got one movie left. Put him on ignore for the rest of the HoF or forever if you want and let's move on.


I am with jiraffejustin and Hey Frederick!


As netizens, we must learn not to feed the trolls!

[John W Constantine]

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
(1948, Huston)

Fred Dobbs and local worker Bob Curtain both down on their luck in the town of Tampico, Mexico in the 1920's decide to take a chance on the prize of gold after being shafted on labor from their previous employer. With the guidance of another local, Howard, the three set out in search of fortune in the mountains of Mexico. But with bandits, other prospectors, and one of the other group members unmined greed to deal with, finding gold may be the least of their problems.

One of Hollywood's essentials, one of the essential Bogart films, this has all the ingredients of this classic era of films. I will admit it begins to teeter towards overstaying it's welcome towards the finale but everything that comes before eases any bad feelings or criticisms that I have for it. Great choice.

[John W Constantine]

Shoplifters
(2018, Kore-eda)

Hatsue, an elderly widow uses her home and husbands pension to help support a group of characters. They just happen to have a knack for shoplifting things they need to get by. One day, Osamu and Shota, during one of their daily operations happen upon a young child, Yuri, who has been locked out of her home. Osamu and Shota intend to bring Yuri along just for a dinner in their and the others home, but when they discover Yuri might be a victim of abuse they decide to not return her to her parents.

Since the 2010's countdown last year I've slowly been catching up this area of cinema. I believe this may have been one of the first I decided to check out. It has a lot of tenderness that I have found common in most of these stories I've seen since then. It's hard to determine just where I stand with the choices that have made some of the countdowns recently but overall I found this pretty good, not great as some of the others I've watched but something I'll continue to pursue in the future.

[Hey Fredrick]

God's Little Acre (1958)



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I had never heard of this so going in I just checked the genre and saw comedy, drama. Oh, okay. So I'm watching it and I just keep waiting for the comedy which, for me, never came. So it didn't work for me that way but did it work as a drama? A little but it was kind of all over the map with all the characters and their stories. The father of the family, Ty Ty (Robert Ryan), has a bit of goofy in him, digging holes all over his backyard for the past 15 years looking for buried gold and kidnapping albino's but the rest of his family is a real mess.

Ty Ty's son is married to Griselda (Tina Louise), who is still all about her alcoholic ex, Will (Aldo Ray), who is married to Ty Ty's other daughter, Rosamund. He's unemployed from the local mill and dreams about getting it up and running again and he is still all about Griselda. All the flirting between the two drives Ty Ty's son nuts, Rosamund doesn't seem to like it either and Ty Ty doesn't care. He has a one track mind about that buried treasure. Later in the film, as Ty Ty needs some money he hits up his third son for some cash and HE tries to snag Griselda as well, right in front of everybody. This son turns out to be the worst of the bunch.

Robert Ryan seems a little out of place to me, digging hole, after hole, after hole while trying to keep this family together. His character was a little too God goofy for my taste. He was kind of if you just ignore everything around you and be a good person, God will take care of everything type of believer. If everybody's on the same boat that may work but that's rarely the case and it isn't the case here and he should be able to see that. Tina Louise did pretty good as the woman everybody lusts for. I thought she was the best character in the movie even if it seems like the director may have told her to do nothing more than wear this and breathe deeply. Aldo Ray is fine as the alcoholic ex of Griselda but Vic Morrow is under used and Buddy Hackett, who I think is usually very funny, is kind of cringy comic relief as the vote chasing, wannabe Sherriff and husband to be of Ty Ty's third daughter.

A real mixed bag for me. Parts of it I really enjoyed but some left me wondering what does this have to do with anything? I liked the second half more than the first. The first half was a little odd but the second half fell more in line with a straight family drama and that's where I felt the movie was at it's best.

[John W Constantine]

Aftersun
(2022, Wells)

In the 1990's, Sophie travels to a Turkish resort for a vacation with her father. Calum, Sophie's father, had moved away to London after separating from her mother. While on holiday Sophie has the chance to meet new people and even make friends with a young boy staying around their resort. She also has a chance to witness some of her fathers personal issues such as signs of depression, anxiety, and hints of inner turmoil. Although he tries to hide these things from Sophie under a sense of personal contentment their relationship experiences many different forms of emotions throughout their brief time together.

This movie really deals in the feels department. It seems to be in search of finding a fathers vulnerability under his guise of contentment for his choices. But as the film begins to pull back the layers of its characters is for me when it really hits it's stride. I really like the performances from the two lead characters so much that it kept my attention open until that gut punch of an ending.

[edarsenal]

Great write-ups! I see a consistent remark for the finale of The Treasure of Sierra Madre, so since I was a pup since I last saw this, I'll be curious to see this aspect.
I just read the above review of G'sLA from Hey Fredrick. It hits a lot of similar points with my viewing, and I will cover them in my review (fingers crossed), which I'll post this weekend. Along withThe Bank Job and A Man For All Seasons, the last two were very enjoyable revisits.


As for the current drama, here's my rambling two cents...

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Hosting is both a joy and, when sh#t stirs, a complete frustration. My respect and love go out to PHOENIX74 and the agitation that brought him to his ruling. I value him as I have valued every host to these HoFs, and his presence as a participant is sincerely cherished.
When it comes to Siddon, he is, like a number of straight-shooting, will let you know bluntly if they don't like something MoFos I respect. He's a f@ckin d#ck at times and never quietly but to the f@ckin heavens in no uncertain terms. But I take it as the entire parcel of who he is. Blunt, brutally honest reviews are unforgiving mirrors of shared movie experiences. I don't always agree, but I appreciate the perspective as I do all the other reviews of all the MoFos I peruse. And since he is precisely the same when it comes to things he likes, it means just a little bit more when it occurs with a film I nominated. I like that.

My view of drama within any forum is that it is inevitable, especially when we nominate beloved films that we wish to share. It can, and at times, hurt like a b#tch when it gets torn apart or dismissed. From my beginnings here, I have been wonderfully overwhelmed with the far-reaching scope of genres that are shared and represented here on this movie lovers' forum. And with such a variety of tastes, there will be conflict. For the most part, it is a passionate and respectful discussion. Sometimes, we fight, we argue. Though I have to say, for the most part, for those of us who have long-running histories in HoFs, the fights are aired and addressed, and for the most part, combatants leave the field with their dead and dying, for the remainder of us, to quote rauldc14: "movie on." Amen, brother. Which is my hope. For the benefit of those directly involved, matters are aired, addressed, and some form of resolution, if possible, reached as those of us not directly involved, movie on.

Um, on a minor side note regarding disqualified films and with all respect and courtesy intended. When they are films I was genuinely dreading seeing due to my preferences I'm happy to avoid them. On the times that they are films I was genuinely looking forward to seeing, I hope to, though, to date, I never have. Being an enthusiastic lover of Shakespearian films and still unfamiliar and very f@ckin curious to see Polanski's rendition, this may be the rare opportunity to do just that. It probably won't be. But if it does... that's why.

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[cricket]

Beau Travail

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Reading the write-ups of this that are done, I'm wondering if you guys missed the whole point of the movie. Not that I know the point exactly, because I believe it's supposed to be largely ambiguous. I was familiar with the director because I've seen Trouble Every Day, which I didn't care for. You don't make a movie like that unless you are a provocative director. Knowing that, and seeing the poster, I thought ok I know where this is headed. When I put it on, I had completely forgotten about the director and the poster, but I quickly realized that this was indeed a

SPOILERS?
gay themed film. Yes there are a lot of short and seemingly meaningless scenes, but it's important to remember that everything is there for a reason. The director really does a brilliant job in trying to make it about the viewer. There are no outwardly gay characters, no romantic scenes, no talk of it, and no reveal. Well, there's sort of a reveal. The very last scene when Galoup is dancing by himself to that music is intended to make the viewer think or feel a certain way. The viewer might say wait a minute, is he gay? The success of the director is to say back, what about that makes him gay? But again, everything is done a certain way for a reason, just like that poster. The film plays on stereotypes while using a few of its own. Your average war/military film doesn't feature several short and seemingly meaningless scenes featuring young shirtless men, sometimes in short shorts, training or doing chores, sometimes touching each other in a certain way, while the camera focuses on their bodies. The director does a fantastic job playing with the viewer. Galoup reminds me of the Chris Cooper character from American Beauty, and coincidentally (or not?) they both look like they shaved with a jagged razor. Galoup hates the new guy, and it could be because the kid brings out his homosexual feelings, or it could be because he likes his commandant and is jealous that the commandant is impressed by the new guy, or it could be both or neither. It's all purposefully done to make the viewer wonder even after the credits roll. I think the director's larger and main objective is to make a viewer like me say this is a gay themed film so that someone else can say how do you know, maybe it's just you.

Beyond that this is a beautifully filmed movie with a nice authentic feel and strong performances. It's not entertaining as that's not the goal, but it also left me cold. Granted, there is no way to bring emotion like a Brokeback Mountain or a Moonlight, since ambiguity is the name of the game. I have to give it a positive rating because I think the director succeeds, but what's in it for me?

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[ScarletLion]

Beau Travail

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Reading the write-ups of this that are done, I'm wondering if you guys missed the whole point of the movie. Not that I know the point exactly, because I believe it's supposed to be largely ambiguous. I was familiar with the director because I've seen Trouble Every Day, which I didn't care for. You don't make a movie like that unless you are a provocative director. Knowing that, and seeing the poster, I thought ok I know where this is headed. When I put it on, I had completely forgotten about the director and the poster, but I quickly realized that this was indeed a

SPOILERS?
gay themed film. Yes there are a lot of short and seemingly meaningless scenes, but it's important to remember that everything is there for a reason. The director really does a brilliant job in trying to make it about the viewer. There are no outwardly gay characters, no romantic scenes, no talk of it, and no reveal. Well, there's sort of a reveal. The very last scene when Galoup is dancing by himself to that music is intended to make the viewer think or feel a certain way. The viewer might say wait a minute, is he gay? The success of the director is to say back, what about that makes him gay? But again, everything is done a certain way for a reason, just like that poster. The film plays on stereotypes while using a few of its own. Your average war/military film doesn't feature several short and seemingly meaningless scenes featuring young shirtless men, sometimes in short shorts, training or doing chores, sometimes touching each other in a certain way, while the camera focuses on their bodies. The director does a fantastic job playing with the viewer. Galoup reminds me of the Chris Cooper character from American Beauty, and coincidentally (or not?) they both look like they shaved with a jagged razor. Galoup hates the new guy, and it could be because the kid brings out his homosexual feelings, or it could be because he likes his commandant and is jealous that the commandant is impressed by the new guy, or it could be both or neither. It's all purposefully done to make the viewer wonder even after the credits roll. I think the director's larger and main objective is to make a viewer like me say this is a gay themed film so that someone else can say how do you know, maybe it's just you.

Beyond that this is a beautifully filmed movie with a nice authentic feel and strong performances. It's not entertaining as that's not the goal, but it also left me cold. Granted, there is no way to bring emotion like a Brokeback Mountain or a Moonlight, since ambiguity is the name of the game. I have to give it a positive rating because I think the director succeeds, but what's in it for me?

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Good write up, and yes it's certainly a theme of the film. It's not a war film. It's a film about life experience, about soul, identity, loneliness, isolation etc

[edarsenal]

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God's Little Acre (1958)

This is a difficult film to honestly evaluate with only one viewing. Due to the hard shifts from the opening storyline regarding Ryan's character, which felt more like a TV rendition of a hillbilly, it made me think of Tobacco Road and similarities with what would become Buddy Ebsen's Jed Clampett on The Beverly Hillbillies, which isn't actually a critique in itself. Moreso, it is an odd starting position for where the film goes into a sultry Tennessee Williams-esque melodrama, which I immensely enjoyed. It almost feels like that aspect was more of a comedic buffer to offset the sexual intensity and passion-drunk characters that make up the best parts of this film. While I do see the necessity of Ryan's character as the Voice of Wisdom and the amusing twist of him indulging in his addiction with innocent abandonment, on a first-time viewing, it's a tricky speed bump.
If time allows me, I would be curious to see this a second time before the end of this HoF. Knowing precisely that "speed bump" and, therefore, a less abrupt transition, I would very easily imagine a much more enjoyable viewing, as some films can be with secondary viewings.
Like others, I enjoyed the second half more. Tina Louise's debut really shows her potential as a dramatic actress, and I would be curious to see if opportunities had allowed her to pursue her wish to be a dramatic actress instead of a comedic turn on a TV show. Iconic, though it may be.

[edarsenal]

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The Bank Job (2008)

I had forgotten, when sharing with my roommate about this nomination, that we actually owned the DVD for this well-executed and complex heist film with political connections based on actual events.
Before Jason Statham settled into an all-out action hero, his very early works, such as his Guy Ritchie beginnings, allowed him to do more than simply be a snarky badass and ladies' man. This is one of those films. Where the variety of storylines are kept in a very tidy, easily followed order. Everyone and everything is given their time without us, the viewer getting lost or overloaded. It's not an easy thing to pull off, but The Bank Job does. Quite nicely. It was and is a satisfying marriage of old-school heist films with the more action-focused juggling act of impossible circumstances that were becoming the norm in recent decades. We have the buildup, the betrayals, and lists of "baddies" with their own agendas and hellbent on our band of thieves having stolen their well-kept secrets from numerous security boxes from a bank that they all used. It all moves along at a finely oiled pace, and many of the boxes for a successful heist film are checked off and done quite well.
It has been a few years since I've enjoyed this early Statham film, and I am very happy to revisit it. A fun film addition to this HoF. Very cool.

[edarsenal]

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A Man For All Seasons (1966)

Thomas More stands alone and is condemned for it by the ruling King Henry VIII.

Paul Schofield plays Thomas More with infinite dignity and grace. In good conscience, Thomas More is incapable of playing along with the rest of the court. Henry VIII (played with the sizable roughness of Robert Shaw) divorced his first wife for Anne Boleyn by declaring himself the Ruler of the Church of England.
No longer in the King's Graces, More, having been assigned High Chancellor after Wolsey's (Orson Welles) demise, is cast out and is legally pursued, imprisoned, sentenced, and executed.

The focus of this film is placed on Schofield's quite able shoulders as we witness his insistence on bending to the King's Will by denying his Devotion to God and his tenacity to stand tall.
It is an impressive sight to see him as a quiet, earnest fellow with such conviction and inner strength.

It's a great revisit for a film I only recently saw two years ago for the very first time.

[John W Constantine]

Beau Travail

(1999, Denis)
Galoup, a former member of the French Foreign Legion reflects on his life from his home in Marseille. He recalls his time in Djibouti, where he led a section of men under the command of Commandant Bruno Forestier. Galoup is revealed to have admired and envied many of Forestier's qualities, including his clear affection from the men. One day, a new recruit named Sentain joins Galoup's section and begins to receive a seemingly irrational hostility from the the mentioned above Legion member.

Over time I developed a comfort and sort of fascination with this type of storytelling. It seems almost like something out of a Terrence Malick film with it's quiet narrative, limited dialogue, and pictures to tell a story. I get that this type of film has the ability to turn a decent size portion of the audience off but it's always a easy sell for me, almost akin to staring or witnessing a painting. As I look back, most of the films I retain and stay with me are ones with images that sink into my mind. I watched this last spring and I can still feel some of the images and sounds firmly in mind and for me that is a potent experience with movies which I hope others also experience.

[PHOENIX74]

John W Constantine is the first to finish - before I've even set my deadline! Good stuff.

[John W Constantine]

I need to stop joining these things.

[rauldc14]

Mona Lisa is next for me in the next couple days

[Citizen Rules]

I need to stop joining these things.nah...you need to keep joining!🙂

Mona Lisa is next for me in the next couple daysI'm going to try and watch another in a day or two.

[Hey Fredrick]

Beau Travail (1999)

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This was a film already in my Criterion list and I almost watched it a couple months ago. I started it but didn't get far. Maybe a few minutes and shut it down. I don't remember why I turned it off but I'm sure it had nothing to do with the movie.

Not much to recap in terms of a story about a group of French Legionnaires stationed in North Africa because not much happens in a traditional plot sense until about 2/3rds of the way through the film. There are few films that show how tedious life can be for servicemen stationed abroad when nothing is happening militarily and most of those movies really stress the boredom by showing what makes life so boring. There's usually a lot of training, pointless exercises and routine life all of which make it into Beau Travail. At least that's how I saw it. This is very much a dig deep, make of it what you will film which I can jibe with sometimes, a lot depends on the subject matter, but this one lost me.

What kept me going is what others have noticed and that's the gorgeous cinematography. You could grab a hundred or so stills from this movie and Nat Geo would be happy to publish them. Knowing now what type of film this is I think I would get more out of it if I were to watch it when I was more in the mood for this type of film. If I hit one of those moods before this HoF is over I may try giving it another run, perhaps coming away with a new appreciation for it. Maybe picking up a few subtle hints here and there about something. I could also see myself watching it again and thinking "yep, that's what I thought."

[rauldc14]

Mona Lisa

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I really liked this one. It seemed to be a perfectly casted film and Bob Hoskins was definitely a perfect fit for this role. The story was very engaging and I enjoyed all of the characters here. There was some nice humor in the film and the story was very engaging. It was a well paced film and had a good amount of suspense to it. For never hearing about it prior to this hall, it definitely exceeded my expectations. A nice atmosphere and a nice setting definitely.

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[Citizen Rules]

It's interesting how we are all viewing Beau Travail differently. I can't wait for more reviews to come in. Cricket said something I never considered:
Beau Travail...Reading the write-ups of this that are done, I'm wondering if you guys missed the whole point of the movie. Not that I know the point exactly, because I believe it's supposed to be largely ambiguous...I quickly realized that this was indeed a gay themed film. Yes there are a lot of short and seemingly meaningless scenes, but it's important to remember that everything is there for a reason.

When I watched Beau Travail the thought never crossed my mind that this was a gay themed movie. After I read your review where you said it was I asked my wife who also watched it if she thought it was gay themed, she said, 'no she didn't'.

The very last scene when Galoup is dancing by himself to that music is intended to make the viewer think or feel a certain way. The viewer might say wait a minute, is he gay? The success of the director is to say back, what about that makes him gay? What I thought that scene was saying was, he was an older man and had spent his whole life in the French Foreign Legion and at this point in his life all he could do was to watch the sexy girls dance because he didn't have a chance with them.

There was two scenes that stood out, the under water knife training and the scenes were the men grasp each other. What crossed my mind during those two scenes was that the director was creatively using ballet movements and music score to depict the training exercises that the men went through in a creative way.


I think the director's larger and main objective is to make a viewer like me say this is a gay themed film so that someone else can say how do you know, maybe it's just you.Interesting and I'm not saying you're wrong. But my take was that the film maker was showing the day to day life and training of these men and presenting it in an artistic way so that we the viewer are seeing what the men go through from afar and yet we never really know them or who they are.

[Citizen Rules]

Beau Travail...It seems almost like something out of a Terrence Malick film with it's quiet narrative, limited dialogue, and pictures to tell a story. That's probably why I disliked it as I've disliked every single Terrence Malick film I've watched.

[Hey Fredrick]

Thanks to Criterion and their collections, I knew Beau Travail was a gay themed film going in but was surprised by how subtle it was. You really had to look hard to see it. Until the end there really wasn't anything the characters did to make you think that it was gay themed, it was all in how it was filmed. Even the ending is pretty ambiguous. The Chris Cooper American Beauty character crossed my mind a couple times as well. For me it was a film about a guy doing what he's supposed to do. He's not enjoying it but it's what he does and then the freedom to be true to himself that came after he was let go. Having a kind of celebration dance. Aside from the cinematography nothing really grabbed me. I'm sure that was intentional but it didn't flow with me.


And I'm with Citizen regarding Malick. I haven' seen much of his work but what I have seen doesn't make me eager to see more.

[rauldc14]

I can see Beau Travail being compared to Malick. Except Malick is much much more artistic and paints a better story.

[Torgo]

Beau Travail has homoerotic moments for sure, but I think the ending is not so much about Galoup "coming out" as it is him liberating himself from the worst parts of his military conditioning, especially what compelled him to do what he did to Sentain, and regaining his humanity. Galoup's arc reminds me of Barbie, specifically what happens to the Ryan Gosling Ken at the end (Greta Gerwig was inspired to direct movies after seeing Beau Travail, FWIW).

[Citizen Rules]

I went into Beau Travail as a total blind watch. I didn't read about it, hadn't heard about it and didn't read any of the reviews here. I knew nothing about it other than the movie poster and this from IMDB "An ex-Foreign Legion officer recalls his once-glorious life of leading troops in Djibouti."

I will say Beau Travail was nicely filmed and the visuals/camera work were creative and held my interest. I might have liked it with more character development and story explanation. Films that are purely visual don't work for me.

As far as Terrence Malick films go I've seen Days of Heaven & The Thin Red Line twice, The New World & The Tree Life...and strongly disliked them all. Films like Malick's and Beau Travail are just not my cup of tea, either was the nom I watched last night. Review coming up.

[ScarletLion]

I think we need to get some of this Beau Travail dislike out of the way. My mini review:

Beau Travail

Claire Denis manages to capture a dream like ethereal quality to this film. It's quite odd but at the same time strangely alluring, contemplative and intriguing. There's not much structure to it and we see lots of different stages of a man's life both in the foreign legion and out of it. It's a meditation on loneliness, homoerotocosm, life purpose and isolation.

Denis Lavant, as well as having some amazing dance moves, is brilliant in the lead role as a jealous sargeant who has his leadership qualities tested. It's not a straightforward film, more a character study but a worthwhile one. The final 30 mins was especially beautiful. Very good film and a worthy HoF choice.

[Citizen Rules]

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Aftersun (2022)


I hated that scene in the screenshot. They get off the tour bus in Turkey and we can tell that it's a tourist stop with scenic views of Turkey from a high vantage point. Instead of doing something visually attractive and showing us the beautiful view, all we get is the backside of dad and his daughter doing Tai Chi moves. This could've been visually a wow moment and also could've gave them the chance to talk about something of importance. But no, none of that happened.

The entire film is ugly and looks like it was shot on a potato. It said nothing, did nothing. How can you film in such exotic places and make your film look like you used a phone to film it. I didn't even realize it was jumping around in time until the very last scene of the adult version of the daughter. When I seen those scenes inter-cut earlier into the film I thought that was suppose to be her mother in Scotland missing her daughter who was still on vacation with dad. And the ending where the dad walks down a hallway into a dance? What?

After the movie I read some IMDB reviews and people said the ending was so powerful they cried? Why? I don't get what was happening there so it had zero impact on me. Oh and I want say I watched the entire movie without distractions, lights off and on the big TV and yet I still got close to zip out of it and I do like this type of subject mater...I was a fan of Sofia Coppola's Somewhere (2010) which is considered slow cinema. My review of Somewhere (2010) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1860987#post1860987).

[ScarletLion]

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Aftersun (2022)


I hated that scene in the screenshot. They get off the tour bus in Turkey and we can tell that it's a tourist stop with scenic views of Turkey from a high vantage point. Instead of doing something visually attractive and showing us the beautiful view, all we get is the backside of dad and his daughter doing Tai Chi moves. This could've been visually a wow moment and also could've gave them the chance to talk about something of importance. But no, none of that happened.

The entire film is ugly and looks like it was shot on a potato. It said nothing, did nothing. How can you film in such exotic places and make your film look like you used a phone to film it. I didn't even realize it was jumping around in time until the very last scene of the adult version of the daughter. When I seen those scenes inter-cut earlier into the film I thought that was suppose to be her mother in Scotland missing her daughter who was still on vacation with dad. And the ending where the dad walks down a hallway into a dance? What?

After the movie I read some IMDB reviews and people said the ending was so powerful they cried? Why? I don't get what was happening there so it had zero impact on me. Oh and I want say I watched the entire movie without distractions, lights off and on the big TV and yet I still got close to zip out of it and I do like this type of subject mater...I was a fan of Sofia Coppola's Somewhere (2010) which is considered slow cinema. My review of Somewhere (2010) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1860987#post1860987).




Wow. Seems like you missed the entire point of the film. Did you not see her father filming the entire thing and her watching it back on a screen years later?

[ScarletLion]

Aftersun

My review at the time:

A moving film about a girl reminiscing on a holiday to Turkey taken with her estranged father 20 years prior. The use of music is terrific, the two central performances are very touchingly delivered (Paul Mescal and the young Frankie Corio). It is one of the films of 2022. The fact this is Charlotte Wells' debut feature is nothing more than astonishing. She delivers massive assurance and confidence in direction, which pushes the narrative forward very tenderly as the girl (Sophie) tries to reconcile her relationship with her father Callum in two separate timelines.

Along the way we are given snippets of her father's troubles. Wells' very cleverly weaves in a subtext that works to a crescendo in the last 10 minutes which includes one of the most brilliant transition shots in recent cinema. The viewer is invited to join the dots on what has happened between the two timelines and there are several clues that help.

Wells' debut has a familiarity with the work of fellow Scottish director Lynne Ramsay, and in particular her film 'Morvern Callar'. This feels lie the birth of another great director.

9.3/10

I haven't changed my rating of this film since I saw it in September 2022, and infact I often think about it. I revisit some of the scenes

.....in particular the ones where Mescal's character is on his bed, when he cleans his teeth, when he walks down to the beach. These are the scenes when his metal fragility is at it's breaking point. He's terrified that he has passed his demons down to his daughter. And the end 15 minutes hints that the scene in the airport was possibly the last time she saw her dad. I'm welling up just thinking about it. so powerful.

We're all different and we all have different tastes, but I truly feel sorry for anybody who didn't get what I did out of this film. It remains one of the finest films I have seen this century.

[Citizen Rules]

Wow. Seems like you missed the entire point of the film. Did you not see her father filming the entire thing and her watching it back on a screen years later?Yes I seen that there was a video camera involved and at one time they watched themselves on the TV in a hotel room. There was no clear indication that it was years later because I seem to remember you could also see the 11 year old girl's reflection in the mirror.

[Citizen Rules]

Aftersun

We're all different and we all have different tastes, but I truly feel sorry for anybody who didn't get what I did out of this film. It remains one of the finest films I have seen this century.I would say people who were greatly moved by the movie are creating their own inner story from the images they seen and are basing their emotions off of their own personal experiences. Of course that happens with many movies, but with Aftersun I think one has to find the emotions in the film relatable to be moved. Me, I've not had any experiences like the father in the film so didn't relate to him or feel anything for him. Actually I didn't like him as I thought he was a rather poor father letting his daughter stay out alone in Turkey late at night and leaving her locked out of the room as he laid passed out in the bed.

[ScarletLion]

Yes I seen that there was a video camera involved and at one time they watched themselves on the TV in a hotel room. There was no clear indication that it was years later because I seem to remember you could also see the 11 year old girl's reflection in the mirror.

Ok I'm genuinely not sure if you're being serious at this point.

Did you not see the rug that grown up Sophie has in her apartment? The same rug that we see Callum wanting to buy years earlier on the holiday?

[Citizen Rules]

Ok I'm genuinely not sure if you're being serious at this point.

Did you not see the rug that grown up Sophie has in her apartment? The same rug that we see Callum wanting to buy years earlier on the holiday?Yes I'm serious. No I didn't notice the rug in the apartment, but my wife did and mentioned it at the end of the movie, so I knew it was there. But what significance does the rug have? Sure they bought in Turkey but it doesn't say much to me. We don't know the father killed himself maybe he lives down the road from Sophie. Though he was messed up so who knows.

[cricket]

A Man for All Seasons

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This was an exceptional viewing for me given my expectations, even though I had seen it before. Before it even started, I was ready to write that I hate when films like this are nominated because I just don't like them and I feel bad for the nominator. Ok I wasn't crazy about it, but I can at least imagine myself getting there.

It really helped me that the language, costumes, and sets were not over the top, especially the language since that helped me follow the story easier. It's a fairly simple story on top of that, but an interesting one nonetheless. It's also not overlong like many films like this. Everything is of high quality, and it's the performances/characters which really worked for me the most. I expected that, but I'm unfamiliar with Paul Scofield and he was terrific. Not a threat for the top of my ballot but I felt good after watching it.

3.5

[Hey Fredrick]

A Man for All Seasons (1966)


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"If we lived in a state where virtue was profitable, common sense would make us saintly. But since we see that avarice, anger, pride, and stupidity commonly profit far beyond charity, modesty, justice, and thought, perhaps we must stand fast a little - even at the risk of being heroes."


Another film that's been on my watch list. This one for quite some time. Even though it was on my watch list it was there more for what I consider essential viewing rather than something I really wanted to see.
So I am glad to have seen it. Finally.

It tells the story of Thomas More, a person I knew nothing about except that there's a school on the south side of town named after him. Mostly, it takes place in the last few years of More's life and concentrates on his conflict with the King about the King's annulment to Catherine, his marriage to Anne Boleyn and the Kings position as head of the Church in England. More, a devout Catholic, doesn't agree with any of this but you'd be hard pressed to hear him tell it and that's the problem.

I liked this a lot. Once the King (Robert Shaw in a wonderful little performance) makes an appearance and the conflict really begins to take shape the movie flies by. It's one of those stories that makes you shake your head and realize that no matter how much time goes by, you can always count on people to be people and do horrible things to other people in the name of...anything. The lengths to which the King and his court go to persecute a man who hasn't done or said anything wrong, a person known to all for having impeccable character, is pretty awful. More is a very sympathetic character and the movie is all the better for it.

Paul Scofield stars as Thomas More and is fabulous. He plays More as stern but fair man. Highly intelligent. In fact that's part of what makes this so good. More's arguments are years ahead of the King's Court and it's such a joy to hear Schofield lay it all out especially during the films closing moments. The truth always sounds better than lies anyway, so he did have that working in his favor as well. Not sure if his performance was the best of 1966 but I'd be hard pressed to find a better one (Burton was pretty, pretty, pretty good as well in '66). The supporting cast is solid with Shaw being the standout.

This is a film I would certainly recommend people watch. It's that good. Great nom!

[jiraffejustin]

Shoplifters

This is my nomination. I chose to nominate this film because I had only seen it once before and I loved it at the time. I figured I'd probably love it still after a rewatch and the nomination was an excuse to do so.

I think this film has the most fascinating cast of characters of any film I've seen in a long, long time. The ending lays out a lot of the pieces we only had clues about in an almost Agatha Christie like way, but it all makes sense. These are all broken people, which is why we can still feel for them when we see them doing wrong. Between the writing, the acting, and Koreeda's steady hand, the nuance required to keep all of these manipulative people likable is reached. I remember Mark would talk about Jaws being one of his favorites, might have been his favorite, and how he could just sit back and enjoy being around those characters, for some reason I feel the same about these characters. I want to find out every detail about them and how much of it is true. I want to know if they just straight up kidnapped Shota or if they really did rescue him. I want to know the truth about Nobuyo's ex that was killed. Why did Aki leave her "real" family. We get little hints and nuggets and we're left to infer the rest. This movie is in my personal canon. I think it's essential viewing for film fans interested in modern cinema. It belongs in the pantheon of the greats.

[edarsenal]

A Man for All Seasons (1966)


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"If we lived in a state where virtue was profitable, common sense would make us saintly. But since we see that avarice, anger, pride, and stupidity commonly profit far beyond charity, modesty, justice, and thought, perhaps we must stand fast a little - even at the risk of being heroes."


Another film that's been on my watch list. This one for quite some time. Even though it was on my watch list it was there more for what I consider essential viewing rather than something I really wanted to see.
So I am glad to have seen it. Finally.

It tells the story of Thomas More, a person I knew nothing about except that there's a school on the south side of town named after him. Mostly, it takes place in the last few years of More's life and concentrates on his conflict with the King about the King's annulment to Catherine, his marriage to Anne Boleyn and the Kings position as head of the Church in England. More, a devout Catholic, doesn't agree with any of this but you'd be hard pressed to hear him tell it and that's the problem.

I liked this a lot. Once the King (Robert Shaw in a wonderful little performance) makes an appearance and the conflict really begins to take shape the movie flies by. It's one of those stories that makes you shake your head and realize that no matter how much time goes by, you can always count on people to be people and do horrible things to other people in the name of...anything. The lengths to which the King and his court go to persecute a man who hasn't done or said anything wrong, a person known to all for having impeccable character, is pretty awful. More is a very sympathetic character and the movie is all the better for it.

Paul Scofield stars as Thomas More and is fabulous. He plays More as stern but fair man. Highly intelligent. In fact that's part of what makes this so good. More's arguments are years ahead of the King's Court and it's such a joy to hear Schofield lay it all out especially during the films closing moments. The truth always sounds better than lies anyway, so he did have that working in his favor as well. Not sure if his performance was the best of 1966 but I'd be hard pressed to find a better one (Burton was pretty, pretty, pretty good as well in '66). The supporting cast is solid with Shaw being the standout.

This is a film I would certainly recommend people watch. It's that good. Great nom!


When I saw this nominated and knowing how you felt regarding the genre I still figured you'd still enjoy it for the reasons you expressed.

[edarsenal]

Shoplifters

This is my nomination. I chose to nominate this film because I had only seen it once before and I loved it at the time. I figured I'd probably love it still after a rewatch and the nomination was an excuse to do so.

I think this film has the most fascinating cast of characters of any film I've seen in a long, long time. The ending lays out a lot of the pieces we only had clues about in an almost Agatha Christie like way, but it all makes sense. These are all broken people, which is why we can still feel for them when we see them doing wrong. Between the writing, the acting, and Koreeda's steady hand, the nuance required to keep all of these manipulative people likable is reached. I remember Mark would talk about Jaws being one of his favorites, might have been his favorite, and how he could just sit back and enjoy being around those characters, for some reason I feel the same about these characters. I want to find out every detail about them and how much of it is true. I want to know if they just straight up kidnapped Shota or if they really did rescue him. I want to know the truth about Nobuyo's ex that was killed. Why did Aki leave her "real" family. We get little hints and nuggets and we're left to infer the rest. This movie is in my personal canon. I think it's essential viewing for film fans interested in modern cinema. It belongs in the pantheon of the greats.
FULLY agree and I have a very strong belief that my second viewing will be a mirrored experience. Especially my endearment and fascination to the central "family".

[Hey Fredrick]

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)

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This is one I was glad to revisit as I didn't think much of it the first time I saw it. Second time around my feelings about a group of fella's searching for gold in the Sierra Madres haven't changed that much. I enjoy the first third very much. The build up is great and watching Bogart slowly becoming unhinged is tasty but as soon as the bandito's exit, who are admittedly a lot of fun, the film falls into a little of a lull and never really recovers.

What everybody seems to love about this is is what pushes me away - the performance of Walter Huston as the experienced prospector. I'm not sure if it's the character or the actor but whichever it is it doesn't sit well with me. By the time we get his big belly laugh at the end I've had enough.

This is a strange one because I think the script is probably pretty solid which means it comes down to execution but I'm not sure I have any ideas on what to do differently, aside from changing up the Huston character/actor. My favorite moments are after Huston's character leaves for the village and we're left with Bogart and Holt heading down the mountain. This is where Bogies paranoia hits its peak and things begin crumbling around him.

I understand this films place in the history of films. It's one of those film where I can see why everybody raves about it and I would love to love it as well, but I don't.

[Citizen Rules]

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The Bank Job (2008)

This reminded me of Beau Travail. What??? You might say...So let me explain. The Bank Job has a very distinct style of cinematography. I don't know if I have the correct technical jargon to explain it. But the way it's filmed, the way the camera moves, the way it's edited and the score, are all very much in sync. Giving a unified feeling to the film which goes with the subject matter. That screen shot up there sorta shows what I'm trying to say.

So how does that remind me of Beau Travail? Well, the filming styles are completely different of course but both films have a strong visual narrative via a unified 'look', that is paramount to the film makers presentation.

For me, both films are similar in that I can see that they achieve their film making goals but neither film was my cup of tea. I can only review a film from my own taste and say if I liked it or not and The Bank Job is not my type of film, just as Beau Travail wasn't. Yet I know in both cases the film makers had a strong visual identity that makes their films unique.

I have to say I was confused at times especially in the first part of the film as to who was who, especially between the cops/Scotland Yard and MI5 the British version of the CIA. When they got to the bank robbery the movie did get more interesting for me. As a side note, I'm not sure there's something like that supper cutting torch which to me looked like it had a bunch of sparklers packed in a tube, but what do I know about cutting torches?...Anyway, after the bank robbery the movie was interesting with several different parties all after the naughty photos of Princess Margaret. I don't recall hearing her exact name being mentioned, but even I, an American knows she was a party animal and that had to be her in the photos.

The movie said it was based on a true story and that piqued my interest too. I haven't read about the real events but if the movie is really accurate then I'd say MI5 got one of the bank robbers, Dave, killed. I mean couldn't they just have went to the bank vault and got the photos themselves? I know the film said they didn't want to disturb the higher ups (the palace, aka the queen). Like I said, not my cup of tea but the history is interesting.

[Citizen Rules]

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Mona Lisa (1986)

I really liked the first half of the movie, it felt like it was going to be a lighter drama with a dash of romance and a sprinkling of Robbie Coltrane thrown in for comedy. Which all sounded good to me and I loved that spaghetti art! But then the movie changed speed and became a mystery thriller, which was popular back in the mid 1980s. I guess I just didn't buy into why Denny (Michael Caine) wanted to know what his call girl Simone was doing. I mean wasn't she doing what she was suppose to be doing for money? So I don't get why George (Bob Hoskinks) was ordered to find out what Simone is doing behind close doors? (other than it makes for movie tension and sets up the final bloody ending so that it can happen...But from an in-story view, it didn't seem to make sense.)...So somebody clue me in when you read this, cause the only clue I have is that: George finds a porno movie tape of Simone in an adult book store...so was that what made Denny so mad, that she was making adult movies on the sly and he wasn't getting his cut?

The first half of the film reminded me of Green Book (2018) with the more worldly and cultured Simone teaching George not to be such a slob and a loudmouth...as George goes from disliking her to secretly falling for her. I liked that aspect of it, but the surprise ending didn't seem earned and didn't seem to have enough impact on the story, it felt tacked on. But I guess in 1986 it was a bit taboo, so made good press.
Not a bad watch, but not a favorite of mine either.

[cricket]

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Mona Lisa (1986)

I really liked the first half of the movie, it felt like it was going to be a lighter drama with a dash of romance and a sprinkling of Robbie Coltrane thrown in for comedy. Which all sounded good to me and I loved that spaghetti art! But then the movie changed speed and became a mystery thriller, which was popular back in the mid 1980s. I guess I just didn't buy into why Denny (Michael Caine) wanted to know what his call girl Simone was doing. I mean wasn't she doing what she was suppose to be doing for money? So I don't get why George (Bob Hoskinks) was ordered to find out what Simone is doing behind close doors? (other than it makes for movie tension and sets up the final bloody ending so that it can happen...But from an in-story view, it didn't seem to make sense.)...So somebody clue me in when you read this, cause the only clue I have is that: George finds a porno movie tape of Simone in an adult book store...so was that what made Denny so mad, that she was making adult movies on the sly and he wasn't getting his cut?

The first half of the film reminded me of Green Book (2018) with the more worldly and cultured Simone teaching George not to be such a slob and a loudmouth...as George goes from disliking her to secretly falling for her. I liked that aspect of it, but the surprise ending didn't seem earned and didn't seem to have enough impact on the story, it felt tacked on. But I guess in 1986 it was a bit taboo, so made good press.
Not a bad watch, but not a favorite of mine either.

I haven't seen the movie in a while so I don't remember specifically, but this sounds normal to me. It will depend on both the business and personal relationship. If a girl has a traditional pimp, she will give him 100% of the money she earns doing anything. There's no such thing as making money for herself.

[Citizen Rules]

I haven't seen the movie in a while so I don't remember specifically, but this sounds normal to me. It will depend on both the business and personal relationship. If a girl has a traditional pimp, she will give him 100% of the money she earns doing anything. There's no such thing as making money for herself.Alright thanks and after you watch it, give me a reply again.

[John W Constantine]

Are we there yet?

[Citizen Rules]

Are we there yet?
I have 5 more films to watch but I'm hesitant to watch these if someone is going to drop out. So please let me know which of you nominated these? Or PM if you don't want to say publicly.

There Will Be Blood
A Man For All Seasons
L'humanité
God's Little Acre..... BTW, this one is my nom.

We're into this three weeks now and I was looking at the review links on the first page and it looks pretty inactive. If any of you are not going to finish say now, not later.

[jiraffejustin]

I’m still going. I finished Treasure yesterday but haven’t written anything. I was going to watch another but I got invited over to a friends to watch some March madness and get drunk.

[cricket]

I will finish as always

[rauldc14]

I have 5 more films to watch but I'm hesitant to watch these if someone is going to drop out. So please let me know which of you nominated these? Or PM if you don't want to say publicly.

There Will Be Blood
A Man For All Seasons
L'humanité
God's Little Acre..... BTW, this one is my nom.

We're into this three weeks now and I was looking at the review links on the first page and it looks pretty inactive. If any of you are not going to finish say now, not later.

I'm at a super slow pace but you know you don't have to worry about me.

[Citizen Rules]

I will finish as always

I'm at a super slow pace but you know you don't have to worry about me.Yeah of course I know you guys will finish, but I don't know what noms are yours and I prefer to focus on noms from people who look like they will finish. I think I can guess crickets based on his past driving job:) but I don't which nom is yours Raul, so if you don't mind PM me so I can watch it, unless I already have watched it?

[rauldc14]

Yeah of course I know you guys will finish, but I don't know what noms are yours and I prefer to focus on noms from people who look like they will finish. I think I can guess crickets based on his past driving job:) but I don't which nom is yours Raul, so if you don't mind PM me so I can watch it, unless I already have watched it?

You've seen mine already, so you're good.

[Citizen Rules]

You've seen mine already, so you're good.
Well sorta of good:p I still don't know what to watch next.

[John W Constantine]

You've seen mine also. Carry on.

[Citizen Rules]

You've seen mine also. Carry on.I kinda figured out what your nom was using my Sherlock Holmes skills:D

[PHOENIX74]

I have 5 more films to watch but I'm hesitant to watch these if someone is going to drop out. So please let me know which of you nominated these? Or PM if you don't want to say publicly.

There Will Be Blood
A Man For All Seasons
L'humanité
God's Little Acre..... BTW, this one is my nom.

We're into this three weeks now and I was looking at the review links on the first page and it looks pretty inactive. If any of you are not going to finish say now, not later.

Okay, ScarletLion has dropped out, and that means 'L'Humanite' is no longer required viewing in this Hall of Fame. All others are still in.

Please note, jiraffejustin edarsenal cricket rauldc14 and Hey Fredrick - 'L'Humanite' isn't part of this Hall of Fame anymore.

[ScarletLion]

Okay, ScarletLion has dropped out, and that means 'L'Humanite' is no longer required viewing in this Hall of Fame..

I'm sorry about this everyone. My fault. I shouldn't have signed up in the first place.

Apologies for any inconveniences or wasted time.

[rauldc14]

As I'm just finishing it lol. It's all good.

[rauldc14]

L'Humanite

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Although I didn't necessarily love or even like this film, there is something interesting about it. It's really well filmed, has a good pace, and keeps you wondering what will happen with the characters. And even though none of them are super likeable by any means, it still keeps you curious even. I also think the film was pretty well directed. It was a good nomination.

3.5

[John W Constantine]

I'll re-nominate it for the next one.

[edarsenal]

No worries, Scarlet.
Thanks for the heads up, Phoenix.

I've rewatched Shoplifters and The Treasure of Sierra Madre and need to do write-ups.
Kind of split about what to watch next. Leaning heavily toward There Will Be Blood.

[cricket]

Alright thanks and after you watch it, give me a reply again.

So it seems that London in the 80's is a little different than Boston circa 2010. Where I am there's no mob boss type in the sex business. It's either an independent girl, a pimp, or an agency, with the latter 2 having some similarities but also big differences. When it comes to a pimp, or also in this case someone above the pimp, the girls are basically owned by them. There's no leaving unless you can totally disappear. The boss played by Caine is a controlling guy to the extent that sometimes he does it just to show he can. However, he at first seemed more interested in Simone's wealthy clients and what he could get from them. The pimp working under him is in charge of the day to day sex operation. That changes when he finds out she's trying to rescue her friend and George is helping. At that point all 3 of them are in trouble.

[cricket]

Mona Lisa

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Bob Hoskins was amazing back in the day. I had considered nominating The Long Good Friday with him but Mona Lisa has been seen by fewer members and it was more relevant to the current countdown. It's now on the British list and the neo-noir list.

My 2nd time watching, and while Hoskins is the big draw, everyone gives a good performance. I probably have more personal interest in the story since I've done the same work as George. The relationship between him and Simone is very well done and believable. I enjoyed that part of the story the most. It turns into a thriller type but it stays solid.

4

[Citizen Rules]

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God's Little Acre (1958)


I like those mounds!...of dirt that is. If you live in the country you've probably dug some holes, big holes, I know I have. When I was a kid I went to a swampy area by my parents house and was digging for worms to go fishing. The ground was soft and easy to dig in and so I kept digging and digging, just to see how deep I could go. That summer I got my brother and cousins and we had a regular excavation work crew going. We had that hole so wide and so deep that we could stand in it and our heads would be level with the ground. To get the dirt out we used a long ramp and a wheelbarrow and it took all of us kids to push it up the ramp. I don't know why people dig holes but it must be fun.

I'm not going to say God's Little Acre is an amazing film. But I'll try and explain why I like it so much...Since joining MoFo I've realized my film taste is far outside of what most of you like. Oh sure we are all individuals with unique film taste but most MoFos have a wide swatch of films that they all tend to like. Me, not so much.

I like this film because it creates a place in time and characters that I like to spend time with as I watch the film. You might describe God's Little Acre as 'play like' or 'soap opera-ish' and mean that as a negative. Me, I like movies that are stagey and soapy. And of course I love films from the 1950s with interesting characters. I guess what I like mainly about God's Little Acre is that it was a fun watch for me.

[Hey Fredrick]

Aftersun (2022)


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Not all goodbyes are the same. I thought this had a bit of the old slice of life feeling initially. It's just two people spending some time together and we get to watch it. At least that was the impression I was getting until dad spit his toothpaste all over the mirror. Okay, what's going on here?

This one got to me but it didn't get me until probably 2/3rds of the way through (karaoke) when I was able to paste together everything that I had seen up to that point. That's when I knew this was going to be one of them kinds of movies. On the surface it's very basic. A divorced dad, who lives half a world away from his daughter, is spending some time with her at a middle of the road resort. Through their interactions I got the feeling that they really care about each other. A lot. So it's a good relationship but there's a something going on under the surface and it's pretty sad. Dad was probably too young to start having kids and he has some regrets. Not about having the daughter, that seems like the one thing he is sure about, but about himself. He shows how he feels in quick little bursts. Toothpaste - mirror. Things that a child may not even pick up on. Sometimes the girl says things that in her mind are nothing but to Dad it's a blow. So for the daughter this is a vacation but to the father it's much more. I'm not going to say anything else about anything but the ending was a downer for me.

This was a real shocker. Never in a million years would I watch something like this on my own but I thought it was fantastic! and I got sucked into it. It's been a long time since I watched a movie that hit me like this one did. It's not a gorgeous movie but it's fine for what it's doing and the acting from both leads is top notch. It kept getting better as it went on. I always felt like something awful was about to happen and something kind of does but it's not what you expect. I can see people not reacting to it as strongly as I did but, not gonna lie, it hit me like a sumanobitch. We have a contender!

The last two for me are both re watches including what I figured to be the favorite going in.

[jiraffejustin]

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Talking about this film is walking on well-trodden ground. I feel like once a HoF, I'll say something about a film being an all-timer, a classic, canonized, or goated, and here I am again. I can't add anything to the conversation about this film. I will say that I enjoyed it thoroughly. The performances are fantastic. It's a great, simple story with a moral that doesn't really feel preachy, but universal and true. Gold can be literal or it can be a metaphor for a number of things whether it be wealth-related or power-related. The ending is poetic and gives the film a nearly mystical feeling, which is also pretty cool.

[cricket]

I've got some extra time this upcoming week so I'll watch multiple.

[rauldc14]

I've got some extra time this upcoming week so I'll watch multiple.

Ditto

[rauldc14]

God's Little Acre

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Aside from the pretty girls themselves there really wasn't a whole lot of meat in the bone for me on this one. It's a pretty boring story to me overall. The dialogue isn't really good for me either, if there was more interesting conversations perhaps a film like this could work. I really didnt like Buddy Hackett in his role either, he just annoyed the crap out of me. Also if there were any laughs it would have been appreciated. There was none of that for me here. But something like this is more just not my kind of film, not really to say that I can't understand why others may enjoy it.

2

[cricket]

God's Little Acre

Should I watch color or black-and-white?

[Citizen Rules]

God's Little Acre

Should I watch color or black-and-white?Color? Is it on Youtube in that awful colorized shifting process where people go from color to gray then back to color again? I wouldn't watch that. Originally it's a black and white film. But do yourself a favor and don't listen to that stupid theme song during the credits when you see a creek, it sets the wrong tone for the movie. Worse is after a dramatic ending, that corn ball song plays again. Either way you'll love the movie, everyone else has:cool::p

[Hey Fredrick]

I would go with the black and white version.

[Citizen Rules]

Is beelzebubble still in? It's been a month already and she hasn't reviewed anything and I know she dropped out of the Film Noir HoF IV. Anyone else dropping out? Let us know.

[rauldc14]

Is beelzebubble still in? It's been a month already and she hasn't reviewed anything and I know she dropped out of the Film Noir HoF IV. Anyone else dropping out? Let us know.

Can't speak for them but ya I doubt they would finish if they haven't even started at this point.

Ill try to watch 2 next weekend myself.

[Citizen Rules]

Can't speak for them but ya I doubt they would finish if they haven't even started at this point.

Ill try to watch 2 next weekend myself.Myself, I'm not watching anymore of the noms tell I see people participating. I don't want to waste my time watching noms from people who drop out. I get that people might have to drop out sometimes, but geez let us know about it and not at the very end of the HoF.

[cricket]

Is beelzebubble still in? It's been a month already and she hasn't reviewed anything and I know she dropped out of the Film Noir HoF IV. Anyone else dropping out? Let us know.

Also dropped out of the 32nd

[Citizen Rules]

Also dropped out of the 32ndI thought so, but I couldn't confirm that.

[rauldc14]

Myself, I'm not watching anymore of the noms tell I see people participating. I don't want to waste my time watching noms from people who drop out. I get that people might have to drop out sometimes, but geez let us know about it and not at the very end of the HoF.

That's why I've kind of wanted to do a "legends" Hall of Fame from all of us that have participated and are 100% committed. I get that this might be seen as non inclusive, but with the proper people invited we know 100% that we would all finish and that we would all be real genuine with our nominations.

[Citizen Rules]

Also dropped out of the 32ndI just looked through the 32 HoF. So after two months of no reviews and no participation beelzebubble said she didn't have time to do the HoF. That's the same thing that happened in the Film Noir IV and now appears to be happening here too. That's a problem.

In the 30th HoF I had this rule which is fair to all, we should probably use this rule again.
Past HoF Dropouts: Are welcomed but if they haven't completed an HoF since last dropping out they will need to watch all the movies, write the reviews and send in a voting list before their movie is officially listed and required to be watched.

[Citizen Rules]

That's why I've kind of wanted to do a "legends" Hall of Fame from all of us that have participated and are 100% committed. I get that this might be seen as non inclusive, but with the proper people invited we know 100% that we would all finish and that we would all be real genuine with our nominations.Totally fine and legit. JJ already did an invite only HoF with the Russian Language HoF he hosted, which worked fine. So if you want to do your idea, yeah go for it.

[John W Constantine]

Guys, sorry, I'm dropping out, I don't like movies anymore. Have fun with yourselves. Peace out.

[Citizen Rules]

:D

[beelzebubble]

Ok! Ok! I will post something. I'm sorry. I've been busy at work which is where I post. I don't have a personal computer.


God's Little Acre (1958) i saw this year's ago. The only thing I remember is Robert Ryan digging up the yard in desperation. I didn't find it very memorable. \
Mona Lisa (1986) I saw this in a movie theater in 1986 or 87. Bob Hoskins is quite memorable as the ex-gangster. But I don't remember the story.
There Will Be Blood (2007) I only saw this once but remember it quite well. It is P.T. Anderson"s and Daniel Day Lewis's best movie. That crazy "I drink your milkshake" scene is unforgettable. Definitely in consideration for #1.
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) Written and directed by John Huston and starring WalterHuston as the old prospector and Humphrey Bogart as "a fellow American down on his luck." Is possibly our winner here. What a great movie. We see the gold corrupt Bogart to the point he is willing to murder for it. This is one of those movies that is always a pleasure to watch no matter how often you see it.
A Man for All Seasons (1966) This was originally a London West End play starring Paul Scofield before it became a movie. It is the story of Sir Thomas More's attempt to serve both God and King by not giving his opinion on the King's divorce.. But King Henry V!!! will not allow it. He insists More must uphold the King's divorce and deny the Roman Catholic Church. So it is a movie about arguments and finagling.by a talented writer. I've seen this many times and never tire of it. Not for everyone, but a great film. So far it's a toss up between, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and A Man for All Seasons.

[PHOENIX74]

Beelzebubble having no linked reviews on the front page yet was my source of comfort.

[cricket]

Ok! Ok! I will post something. I'm sorry. I've been busy at work which is where I post. I don't have a personal computer.


God's Little Acre (1958) i saw this year's ago. The only thing I remember is Robert Ryan digging up the yard in desperation. I didn't find it very memorable. \
Mona Lisa (1986) I saw this in a movie theater in 1986 or 87. Bob Hoskins is quite memorable as the ex-gangster. But I don't remember the story.
There Will Be Blood (2007) I only saw this once but remember it quite well. It is P.T. Anderson"s and Daniel Day Lewis's best movie. That crazy "I drink your milkshake" scene is unforgettable. Definitely in consideration for #1.
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) Written and directed by John Huston and starring WalterHuston as the old prospector and Humphrey Bogart as "a fellow American down on his luck." Is possibly our winner here. What a great movie. We see the gold corrupt Bogart to the point he is willing to murder for it. This is one of those movies that is always a pleasure to watch no matter how often you see it.
A Man for All Seasons (1966) This was originally a London West End play starring Paul Scofield before it became a movie. It is the story of Sir Thomas More's attempt to serve both God and King by not giving his opinion on the King's divorce.. But King Henry V!!! will not allow it. He insists More must uphold the King's divorce and deny the Roman Catholic Church. So it is a movie about arguments and finagling.by a talented writer. I've seen this many times and never tire of it. Not for everyone, but a great film. So far it's a toss up between, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and A Man for All Seasons.

I'm curious if you realize you're supposed to watch them again unless you just recently watched them.

[Hey Fredrick]

Right. That is the point of these HOF's. That being said, I may not get to my last two movies. There Will Be Blood I last watched this past winter with my GF's son so I feel I have that watch in recent enough to give an accurate review. I'm really going to try and get to Shoplifters again but I'm dealing with some pretty heavy personal stuff that just sprouted up. There is still a month and a half to go so I'm hoping there will be a time I can watch something but right now...I don't know.

[cricket]

God's Little Acre

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I believe that gif was posted before, but in a perfect world it would be on every page of the site. The movie was not as weird as I expected, more like a bit quirky. I haven't watched as many older films since we finished the decade countdowns, so just watching a black and white classic was a treat. It took some time getting used to this version of Robert Ryan after knowing him in very different roles, but I'm always happy to see him. Cool to see Buddy Hackett as well, but the star for me was Tina Louise. I knew the name but wasn't sure where I knew her from. After looking I see she was on Gilligan's Island which I've never seen. Oh so that's Ginger, yep now I understand why I hear that name. Was glad the whole movie didn't stay on the ranch and that it went towards melodrama. Not a great movie but I enjoyed watching it.

3

[Citizen Rules]

God's Little Acre

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I believe that gif was posted before, but in a perfect world it would be on every page of the site. The movie was not as weird as I expected, more like a bit quirky. I haven't watched as many older films since we finished the decade countdowns, so just watching a black and white classic was a treat. It took some time getting used to this version of Robert Ryan after knowing him in very different roles, but I'm always happy to see him. Cool to see Buddy Hackett as well, but the star for me was Tina Louise. I knew the name but wasn't sure where I knew her from. After looking I see she was on Gilligan's Island which I've never seen. Oh so that's Ginger, yep now I understand why I hear that name. Was glad the whole movie didn't stay on the ranch and that it went towards melodrama. Not a great movie but I enjoyed watching it.

rating_3
I'll take that as a positive review:D...You never seen Gilligan's Island, you need to rectify that! Tina Louise before she appeared on Gilligan's Island was so much more than just a curvy body, she was a very talented dramatic actress and appeared in a few choice 1950s movies before becoming typecast and having her film career ruined. The westerns: The Hangman (1959) and Day of the Outlaw (1959) are both good and Tina is good in them. I haven't seen her in much else though I'd like too. Anyway now you know the kind of movies I like:p

[cricket]

I'll take that as a positive review:D You never seen Gilligan's Island you need to rectify that:) Tina Louise before she appeared on Gilligan's Island was so much more than just a curvy body, she was a very talented dramatic actress and appeared in a few choice 1950s movies before becoming typecast and having her film career ruined. The westerns, The Hangman (1959) and Day of the Outlaw (1959) are both good and Tina is good in them. I haven't seen her in much else though I'd like too. Anyway know you now the kind of movies I like:p

Ahhhh yes, that's where I know her from. I nominated Day of the Outlaw for a 50's HoF.

[Citizen Rules]

Ahhhh yes, that's where I know her from. I nominated Day of the Outlaw for a 50's HoF.I knew I seen that but didn't remember it was your choice. Good western, I need to revisit it.

[rauldc14]

Watching The Bank Job today.

[rauldc14]

Also, I'm hoping for no hard feelings but I'm thinking about an invite only HOF soon after this is wrapped up.

[rauldc14]

The Bank Job

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I have to start off by saying that I'm just not really a Jason Statham fan. The only movie that I really cared for of his was The Italian Job. I've just never really been a big fan of his style. But to me, the story here is enough to keep one interested in what's going on and it's got a solid pace to it. It doesn't do anything fascinating at all but it does keep the viewer on its toes for the duration of the film. None of the acting is really anything of note but it also doesn't really have to be. Overall it's an average viewing for a heist movie.

3

[beelzebubble]

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Shoplifters
I don't think I am going out on a limb here guessing this is rauldc14's contribution. It's a slow paced, slice of life, Asian drama. The first thirty minutes moved kind of slow, but we are getting to know the characters in this character driven film. Once we are familiar with the milieu and the characters, a small family living on subsistence wages and supplementing that with food they have shoplifted; we see how they interact with each other. Their kindness to each other is sweet and sustains the film as we find that these people are not blood relatives but a "chosen" family.

The film changes gears when the young son breaks his leg while he is escaping from store clerks who saw him shoplifting. This brings in the authorities. And that is the end of their idyll. Their makeshift family is destroyed and we see the adults motives for "saving" the children.

The sweetness of the family was a little unrealistic but not mawkish. The script is complex and there is a surprising reveal about each family member almost every step of the way.The filmmakers sympathy is with this family and the difficulty of their subsistence living. The ending leaves the "little sister" back with her abusive and abused mother from whom the family had saved her and the others going their separate ways.
I liked this movie and was surprised that it had been described as bleak and eerie. The ending was certainly sad, especially for the little girl, for now loneliness is going to be a big part of the adults lives. But it was a brightly lit film. The interior at times seemed cozy though cramped and cool in the summertime due to the foliage in the tiny yard that the wide door look out on. I assume the person who chose those words to describe this movie was reacting to the difficult situation the family finds itself in and not the film itself.

[beelzebubble]

Also, I'm hoping for no hard feelings but I'm thinking about an invite only HOF soon after this is wrapped up.
I am curious what your reasoning for that is.

[John W Constantine]

Me too.

[beelzebubble]

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre Rewatch
Oh my god! This is such a good movie. We are given permission to dislike Dobbs and expect him to be a heel from the outset. When he throws his drink in that beggar child's face after a day of begging himself, you know this is not a great guy.

Two desperate characters meet another desperate character who has some know how about prospecting and off they go to the mountain to meet their fate. It is beautifully shot in glorious black and white. Written and directed by John Huston, who, I noticed this time, has the small part of a prosperous gringo in a white suit it has a master of visual and verbal storytelling at the helm. Dobbs unctuous behavior towards the well-to-do is in stark contrast to his treatment of the beggar child.


Curtain, the other desperado, is a handsome man with a melodious voice and seems out of place in this film. He fades into the background as Walter Huston and Humphrey Bogart command the screen. Maybe his ubiquity is the intention, but I have always wanted a more rough looking actor to play Curtain.

My favorite shots include that of Howard lolling in a hammock, fanned by a beautiful senorita and eating a watermelon. It's a beautifully crafted shot, like something from Gauguin. I also love the part where a weary unto death Dobbs is found by the bandits. The bandits on the ground lifting his pants leg in order to get a better look at the boots they plan to steal is fantastic. We know how that scene is going to end. RIP Dobbs.

I wasn't crazy about the music. It was a tad corny and pointed.


I have to logoff soon, but I wanted to address one thing. Somebody thought the outfits of the Mexicans were stereotypical. I think that filmmakers in California would be quite aware of what native Mexicans wore at the time of filming as the movie takes place in what was then a contemporaneous time. California was once a part of Mexico. Spanish language films for the South American market were filmed in Hollywood. Clothing styles around the world were less homogeneous at that time. People still wore their native dress. The world wasn't as small as it is today.

[Hey Fredrick]

I am curious what your reasoning for that is.


Doesn't seem that complicated to me. My guess is that they want people who have a track record of:
1. Actually watching the movies that are nominated.
2. Finishing them all and not dropping out halfway through.
3. Not causing drama

[beelzebubble]

The Bank Job This was an entertaining movie based on a true story. A group of inexperienced bank robbers are conned into breaking into a bank by a woman, who was being coerced by MI5 to retrieve naked pictures of Princess Margaret in flagrante.
It has a promising start musically. We get T-Rex’s Bang-a gong while a menage a trois is being photographed. So I was hoping for a lot of cool British classic rock throughout the film. But no such luck. It was a kind of pedestrian score and no fun expensive songs added.
The filming was interesting to begin with. There were a lot of quirky shots and quick edits in the beginning. It kind of had the beats of a comedy. One of the actors, Daniel Mayes is a good comic actor and he provided the little levity there was. But the comic tone disappeared quickly and the film became a standard heist drama.
I was excited to see what happened after the heist, I figured that would be when things would get weird. I was not wrong. Things sped up and the wheels fell off the heist. The mob, the cops, MI5 and a black activist/gangster are all out to get them. Now the excitement begins. The final half hour is very tight suspense.
Now I have never seen a Jason Statham movie before and I have one question. Why is this ordinary looking guy, who is not the greatest actor and not that charismatic a movie star? I don’t get it. He does have a good voice. But other than that, I don’t get it.

[Siddon]

Doesn't seem that complicated to me. My guess is that they want people who have a track record of:
1. Actually watching the movies that are nominated.
2. Finishing them all and not dropping out halfway through.
3. Not causing drama

Yes we know the "drama" or in other words we don't like you so you're not allowed to talk in the thread...also we've spent time complaining to hosts about how we don't like you so that makes you the drama.

I don't know if this post is going to get deleted or edited again. The power dynamic on this forum has truly become twisted. I would say that once you start excluding people you codify it and becomes easier and easier to do it in the future.

After CitizenRules deleted post where he wants to never see me in a Hall of Fame again...or Phoneix's actions in this thread or Yoda's inaction in this discussion. How could I possibly trust any person of authority on this forum. I don't know what Raul has in mind but if Phoenix is telling the truth and their are multiple people who are "it's him or me" will that not extend to another hall.

[Citizen Rules]

Yes we know the "drama" or in other words we don't like you so you're not allowed to talk in the thread...also we've spent time complaining to hosts about how we don't like you so that makes you the drama.

I don't know if this post is going to get deleted or edited again. The power dynamic on this forum has truly become twisted. I would say that once you start excluding people you codify it and becomes easier and easier to do it in the future.

After CitizenRules deleted post where he wants to never see me in a Hall of Fame again...or Phoneix's actions in this thread or Yoda's inaction in this discussion. How could I possibly trust any person of authority on this forum. I don't know what Raul has in mind but if Phoenix is telling the truth and their are multiple people who are "it's him or me" will that not extend to another hall.


Correction, I said you wouldn't be in an HoF that I hosted and that was only after you posted two angry rants directed at me, those post have since been removed from this thread...I never said that I didn't want to see you in a Hall of Fame again. You're misrepresenting what I said. I have the screenshots of yours and my posts for proof.



FYI, for the record I never called for Phoenix to ban you. I was surprised when I seen that he had banned you. I don't know who the people were who complained to Phoenix about you before you were banned, but I wasn't one of them.

[Siddon]

FYI, for the record I never called for Phoenix to ban you. I was surprised when I seen that he had banned you. I don't know who the people were who complained to Phoenix about you before you were banned, but I wasn't one of them.




You were so shocked that you didn't say anything for over a month even though it was your film. Did you say anything to Phoenix or is this another one of those "I didn't want you out of every Hall of Fame just my Hall of Fames". If it were my nomination I would have spoken up immediately.



I don't really know what to believe at this point. Other than I went out of my way to find a great film for people to watch, and I watched everyones nom's. And yet here we are at a point where I'm told I'm not allowed to speak, it's my fault people don't want to do these. I thought this was supposed to be an exercise in sharing and discussing art not a place for petty vendettas.



And once again I don't think the irony of this being about Macbeth is lost on me.

[jiraffejustin]

The Bank Job

It seemed like this film really wanted to be another Lock, Stock or Snatch, but felt like a pale imitation. The one thing I liked about the film was finding out at the end that it was based on a true story, with some loose interpretation of events, I am sure. Maybe it said at the beginning that it was based on true events and I missed it, but it was cool at the end when they do those "X thing happened to Person Y after the events of this film" type of deal and I googled it to find out Michael X was a real dude. Other than that, it didn't feel all that memorable to me, unfortunately. There was a lot of characters and a lot of moving parts plus it felt like the film was edited to make you feel rushed and it's hard to keep up with some of the players because of this, mainly whose guys are whose when both sides are coming after the robbers. Also a lot of the characters didn't feel very convincing, like the fella who played the porn star with a big hog. But that also just felt like a detail tossed into to remind you of the dildo-type scenes in Lock, Stock. I am getting 5/10 vibes.

[John W Constantine]

Are we there yet?

[rauldc14]

I still got the five rewatches. I'm halfway through Shoplifters so I'll have a review of that tomorrow.

[John W Constantine]

Phoenix hasn't reviewed anything yet, are they still participating?

[cricket]

Phoenix hasn't reviewed anything yet, are they still participating?

Out of here!

[PHOENIX74]

Has any host ever abused their privileges and given themselves loads of extra time?

(I'm waiting until the countdowns finish, in case anyone is wondering.)

[rauldc14]

Shoplifters

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I really just dig the style and the story in this film. For me, I've said this before but it feels like a modern take on Ozu. The film is shot very well and I really enjoy the acting in it too. The film also looks great. Really not much as far as flaws on this one. It's a frontrunner to win in my opinion.

4.5

[Citizen Rules]

Has any host ever abused their privileges and given themselves loads of extra time?

(I'm waiting until the countdowns finish, in case anyone is wondering.):up: I'll be watching your film next.

[beelzebubble]

God’s Little Acre—Rewatch
This movie feels as if it is trying to be a Tennessee Williams play. This isn’t Baby Doll or The Sweet Bird of Youth. It’s just not working. The beats are all there but they never coalesce into something coherent. I enjoyed this scene and that scene, such as Darlin Jill taunting Pluto while in the bath, Darlin’ Jill seducing the albino and the field hand running off the albino so he doesn’t get caught making love with Darlin’ Jill. In fact, almost anything that centers around Darlin’ Jill is amusing. All these scenes are handled well.
The problem for me comes with Will’s story and his fruitless attempt to re-open the mill by turning on the power. It doesn’t work that way. I am fairly sure Will knows it doesn’t work that way. But he goes ahead and does it and gets shot for his trouble. This charging towards the fruitless is the heart of the story, and everyone is doing it. But I can’t get over the idiocy of Will’s action and his death. The writer is Ben Maddow, who has written a number of excellent movies. The Asphalt Jungle, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, and Johnny Guitar to name a few. But this is not one of them.
The actors are fine. Robert Ryan, Tina Louise and Aldo Ray are all excellent as the lead characters. It was definitely novel seeing Robert Ryan as someone who seems full of joy.
The cinematography and Elmer Bernstein’s score are all fine. It just doesn’t gel.

[beelzebubble]

Beau Travail is a beautifully render retelling of the Billy Budd story by Herman Melville. Instead of men on a shop, we have a troop of French Foreign Legionnaires. The first 45 minutes of the film we are being introduced to the troop, their Sergeant Galoup, Commandant Forestier and their physically demanding life in Djibouti which is in a harsh, desert landscape near the Gulf of Aden. We see the men drill and do what looks like Tai Chi stripped to the waist to Benjamin Britton’s opera Billy Budd. Their physical prowess is amazing. I’m going to assume that the cast were all dancers.
The film goes back and forth in time. You are never quite sure of the timeline. We find that Galoup is very jealous of his relationship with the commandant. A younger soldier, Sentain is praised by the commandant for valor when he saves a man’s life after a helicopter crashes into the gulf. This seems to set Galoup off. He is certain Sentain is up to no good. We never really no why. Sentain is not a francophone so it may be this foreignness that sets Galoup off. Sentain is sent on a punishment hike and gets lost. His compass doesn’t seem to be working. Was the compass trifled with? Does Sentain survive his ordeal? We don’t know. We only know Galoup, a man in his forties, is loosing his raison d’etre. He is drummed out of the legion.
I liked the juxtaposition between the shots filled with the blue waters of the gulf, those with the men in their strange drills and then of the men and the local women at the disco. It was quite beautiful
While watching the film I thought about how so many of us live such a sedentary lifestyle. How many of us feel like strangers in our own land. These men are pushed to great lengths in work that demands no thought only obedience. There is camaraderie and belonging but it seems very fragile.

[Citizen Rules]

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There Will Be Blood (2007)


I could've loved this movie. Indeed I was engrossed in the first hour of the film, which isn't surprising as I love period piece and historical films. The subject matter of the early days of oil production was fascinating to me and handled well. The sets and location were equally amazing. The wide shot of the vast open scrub land that seemed to stretch to the horizon was breath taking, but why then does Daniel and his son walk further and end up in an area with lots of trees. To sum it up, the first hour had me thinking this would be one of my favorite watches in this HoF...Though the score was annoyingly intrusive and seemed ill suited for the film.

But then in the second half of the film the story starts going 'too big' with just too much going on...which then took me out of the story. I didn't like the way PTA handled the initial confrontation between Eli (Paul Dano) and Daniel (Daniel Day-Lewis). In the movie Eli approaches Daniel on the job site and ask for the $5000 promised to his church as a signing bonus. Daniel instantly goes crazy and beats him. I get that a beating was needed to illustrate the hostility of Daniel and to show the growing tension between him and Eli...especially so that the film can have the payback scene later in the church...But Daniel's character needed more motivation before attacking Eli. There should've been a bit of dialogue with Eli calling Daniel a liar for not paying the $5000. That one extra line would make the beating seem less bombastic.

I did like the aforementioned payback scene in the church, that was plum. Though it was triple dipping using another payback scene at the end of the movie, once again too much. Maybe the worst scene was Daniel talking to his adult son. When he started saying with that accent of his, 'stop flapping your hands and use your jaw', I ust about busted up and laughed. It seemed like I was watching a SNL skit...Too over the top for me to believe and every film I've seen of PTA's is like that, he doesn't know or care to reel himself in and constrain what he's showing.

[Hey Fredrick]

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There Will Be Blood (2007)


I could've loved this movie. Indeed I was engrossed in the first hour of the film, which isn't surprising as I love period piece and historical films. The subject matter of the early days of oil production was fascinating to me and handled well. The sets and location were equally amazing. The wide shot of the vast open scrub land that seemed to stretch to the horizon was breath taking, but why then does Daniel and his son walk further and end up in an area with lots of trees. To sum it up, the first hour had me thinking this would be one of my favorite watches in this HoF...Though the score was annoyingly intrusive and seemed ill suited for the film.

But then in the second half of the film the story starts going 'too big' with just too much going on...which then took me out of the story. I didn't like the way PTA handled the initial confrontation between Eli (Paul Dano) and Daniel (Daniel Day-Lewis). In the movie Eli approaches Daniel on the job site and ask for the $5000 promised to his church as a signing bonus. Daniel instantly goes crazy and beats him. I get that a beating was needed to illustrate the hostility of Daniel and to show the growing tension between him and Eli...especially so that the film can have the payback scene later in the church...But Daniel's character needed more motivation before attacking Eli. There should've been a bit of dialogue with Eli calling Daniel a liar for not paying the $5000. That one extra line would make the beating seem less bombastic.

I did like the aforementioned payback scene in the church, that was plum. Though it was triple dipping using another payback scene at the end of the movie, once again too much. Maybe the worst scene was Daniel talking to his adult son. When he started saying with that accent of his, 'stop flapping your hands and use your jaw', I ust about busted up and laughed. It seemed like I was watching a SNL skit...Too over the top for me to believe and every film I've seen of PTA's is like that, he doesn't know or care to reel himself in and constrain what he's showing. I use to be neutral on PTA but now I'm not a fan.





When it comes to PTA I either love it or...don't. No middle ground for me. There Will Be Blood is in the former and may be my favorite from him.


edit: I will be able to finish the final 2 movies. My GF, aka As You Wish, got the best news we could have hoped for regarding life stuff. Instead of horrible news we got really awful news with a "however..." I guess what we learned is always get a second opinion.

[Citizen Rules]

When it comes to PTA I either love it or...don't. No middle ground for me. There Will Be Blood is in the former and may be my favorite from him.I'm glad someone is around...I swear I've never posted a HoF review and literately no one repped it or at least commented on it. This has been one weird HoF...

Anyway I just wanted to say I've seen these PTA films:
Boogie Nights...I don't remember it but not the best film to watch with one's wife.

Magnolia...drove me crazy. Maybe if I knew the film expression for the type of movies PTA makes then I could relate somehow to them. Example, if I know I'm going to watch a French new wave film I can put my mind into the right mode and not expect a conventionally told story.

There Will Be Blood...This does seem like a conventionally told story, unless I'm missing something and it's suppose to be along the lines of the Coen Bros films?

Phantom Thread...Loved it for the most part but the mushroom stuff was just too over the top for me. To be fair to PTA most all films I seen I complain about the ending being too grandiose.

I would like to see PTA's Punch Drunk Love, who knows maybe that is the film that will make me change me mind.

[John W Constantine]

This has been one weird HoF...

Understatement.

[Hey Fredrick]

Boogie Nights is my favorite PTA film and is on a yearly watch schedule. First movie me and my GF watched together was The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover. Had to let her know what she's in store for if she's gonna get hooked up with me, so Boogie Nights was tame in comparison. Saw Magnolia on the day it was released and loved it. Absolutely blew me away. Inherent Vice is a hot mess but I love it anyway. Not a fan of Phantom Thread or Punch Drunk Love but I should give Punch Drunk another go. It was really odd from what I remember and wasn't expecting that. Haven't seen Licorice Pizza yet.

[Citizen Rules]

I don't even know what Licorice Pizza is about, but any movie with pizza in the title is interesting to me:p

[cricket]

Fortunately for me since it's a favorite, Boogie Nights is also one of my wife's favorites.

CR, think you might love Licorice Pizza

Hey Fredrick, don't know what you were going through, but I'm happy that it's headed in the right direction