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AND the reason I DON'T write long reviews is that I don't want to give the full plot away for other who havent viewed it yet. It's kind of like your friends telling you "I don't want you to tell me about to spoil it." Which is a valid reason.
Oh you care about the experience of the other reviewers. You'll nominate a film with bestiality but you don't want to be rude by spoiling the surprise of child rape. That's so considerate of you you were thinking of us when you nominated a film where a child gets thrown in a pool of shit. Yes I would hate to spoil the sense of discovery when all of those animals got tortured.
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 05:11 PM
AND the reason I DON'T write long reviews is that I don't want to give the full plot away for other who havent viewed it yet. It's kind of like your friends telling you "I don't want you to tell me about to spoil it." Which is a valid reason.I don't write plot synopsis either in my reviews and I usually don't read them as I've either just watched the film so I know what it is about...or I'm about to watch it and don't want to know which way the story turns.
MovieGal
06-03-22, 05:12 PM
I don't write plot synopsis either in my reviews and I usually don't read them as I've either just watched the film so I know what it is about...or I'm about to watch it and don't want to know which way the story turns.
I warned you about mine when we first talked about my nomination.
Nevermind, you watched already. Lol
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 05:16 PM
I warned you about mine when we first talked about my nomination.
Yes you did:)
If anyone wants to be upset about The Painted Bird you can blame me... because when me and MG talked I said to her it sounded like an interesting movie. It is of course all CG and fake sex, nothing real except the nudity.
MovieGal
06-03-22, 05:17 PM
Yes you did:)
If anyone wants to be upset about The Painted Bird you can blame me... because when me and MG talked I said to her it sounded like an interesting movie. It is of course all CG and fake sex, nothing real except the nudity.
That's what gets me, it's a movie, it's fake. Documentaries are more real, not movies.
MovieGal
06-03-22, 05:19 PM
All I can say is "book is closed, move on"
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 05:21 PM
All I can say is "book is closed, move on"
Yup I agree. Back to work for me. I swear I work all the time:rolleyes:
Yes you did:)
If anyone wants to be upset about The Painted Bird you can blame me... because when me and MG talked I said to her it sounded like an interesting movie. It is of course all CG and fake sex, nothing real except the nudity.
Actually the point is I'm not convinced that my film was watched while I was subjected to a horrible film with child rape, animal torture and an ungodly run time.
SpelingError
06-03-22, 05:59 PM
You can't have a Hall without some kind of Siddon drama.
SpelingError
06-03-22, 06:06 PM
Oh, so the animal death scenes in The Painted Bird weren't real and were just cgi? Okay, so what exactly is so objectionable about those scenes then? Like, I'm sure we're all in agreement that killing an animal in real life for a film is awful, but if people are also against cgi deaths of animals in films where the animals aren't actually hurt, what avenues should films take to show those scenes then? Or should that just be off limits from being represented in film altogether?
MovieGal
06-03-22, 06:07 PM
Actually the point is I'm not convinced that my film was watched while I was subjected to a horrible film with child rape, animal torture and an ungodly run time.
Actually I did and watched it twice.
And I really don't care what you thought of mine. I know it wasn't for everyone.
And FYI, I DON'T like American comedies.
Again, it's closed.
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The Traveling Players (1973)
The Traveling Players is a movie...it was shot with a camera. The film came out in the 1970's it seems like it was foreign. I don't like movies where I have to read it's not my thing.
SpelingError
06-03-22, 06:12 PM
Anyways, I know that a few users felt that the violence went too far in The Painted Bird (to be fair, it's not just Siddon), but that wasn't quite what I walked away with. Rather, my issue was that the violent/disturbing bits in the film left me cold for the reasons I brought up in my review.
ueno_station54
06-03-22, 06:16 PM
lmao they're so rattled. embarrassing tbh
Wyldesyde19
06-03-22, 06:25 PM
My whole response to another Siddon hot take.
🙄
It’s a shame, because I like reading his tales on films, and I admire the rather lengthy amount of films he’s watched.
ueno_station54
06-03-22, 09:00 PM
anyone got a link for Rams or Cuties by chance?
MovieGal
06-03-22, 09:19 PM
anyone got a link for Rams or Cuties by chance?
Cuties is on Netflix if you got that
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 09:29 PM
anyone got a link for Rams or Cuties by chance?I got some theme-appropriate links:D I'll PM you.
SpelingError
06-03-22, 09:40 PM
anyone got a link for Rams or Cuties by chance?
I sent a couple links as well.
SpelingError
06-03-22, 09:41 PM
I got some theme-appropriate links:D I'll PM you.
I take it you're referring to Pirate Bay.
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 09:42 PM
I take it you're referring to Pirate Bay.Ha:p but nah.
MovieGal
06-03-22, 09:43 PM
I take it you're referring to Pirate Bay.
We are pirates except me..I'm Viking..which are a lot like pirates
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 09:49 PM
We are pirates except me..I'm Viking..which are a lot like piratesYou're a Viking pirate.
MovieGal
06-03-22, 09:50 PM
You're a Viking pirate.
Both pillage and ride in boats. Mine is just cooler looking.
Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 09:51 PM
Both pillage and ride in boats. Mine is just cooler looking.I like your avatar btw.
MovieGal
06-03-22, 09:53 PM
I like your avatar btw.
Cool. Only cool pirates are allowed to raid and pilage on my cool boat
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Citizen Rules
06-03-22, 10:00 PM
I like that!
MovieGal
06-03-22, 10:38 PM
So I guess someone won't watch Star Wars III Revenge of The Sith because it contains children being murdered. Order 66.
So I guess someone won't watch Star Wars III Revenge of The Sith because it contains children being murdered. Order 66.
Someone shouldn't watch Episode III because it's bad also pretty sure I said child being raped and thrown into a vat of shit...which is different from murder. The animals were being murdered graphically for three hours.
But at least you didn't have to watch a comedy...because that wasn't your thing
I finally finished watching The Travelling Players (1975). Written and directed by Theodoros Angelopoulos, this Greek drama is about a group of theatre actors during World War II. It felt like there was a lot going on here, but not all of it worked for me. I'm not sure if it is because I am not knowledgeable enough about Greek history or if it was just the way the story was told. At times, it was a little hard to follow. It was not always clear who was who or exactly what was going on. There are some positive elements though. The camerawork is well done and there are some nice shots. I did like the look of the film. Acting was fine. No one gave a bad performance, but no one really stood out either. There are good scenes, here and there, but the film is not consistently interesting or engaging. And the length doesn't help. This is a very long film. I would say it is at least an hour too long and should have been cut down to a shorter length. Honestly, I found the film boring in parts and after a while just wanted it to end. While I respect and appreciate certain things about the film, sorry to say this did not work for me. 2.5
Arrrrr mateys! I have finished my voyage and enjoyed the journey on this fine vessel with all you rascals and pirates. It was a fine time filled with danger, excitement, and intrigue! Until next time, fellow crew mates.
edarsenal
06-04-22, 12:43 AM
Btw, is ed still in this Hall?
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I'm sure he probably is, he's always been solid in HoFs...but let's ask him. edarsenal How you doing?
I'm in! Just taking a break and binging on Disney Plus for a bit before jumping in this weekend, with possibly Cuties.
Ed, get your butt to watching and review my film!
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I'm gonna give yours a second watch to better review it!
I hope ya like it, pretty damn excited to check out this Blind Grab.
MovieGal
06-04-22, 12:44 AM
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I'm in! Just taking a break and binging on Disney Plus for a bit before jumping in this weekend, with possibly Cuties.
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I hope ya like it, pretty damn excited to check out this Blind Grab.
Binging which shows on D+?
SpelingError
06-04-22, 12:50 AM
Binging which shows on D+?
Cuties, probably.
MovieGal
06-04-22, 12:54 AM
Cuties, probably.
Cuties is on Netflix. Disney + has the Star Wars and Marvel series and NetGeo has some great science/history stuff on there. Stuff I enjoy.
PHOENIX74
06-04-22, 12:55 AM
I had a slightly difficult watch lined up as a future Hall of Fame nomination which I'm seriously considering scrapping - there seems to be hubbub and debate over nominees being too distressing - I don't know. In case anyone is still in doubt though, the animals on the set of The Painted Bird were treated with the upmost compassion and none were harmed whatsoever. It's all special effects.
And - I want to ask in general - does anyone consider that my reviews are a little too lengthy?
MovieGal
06-04-22, 12:57 AM
I had a slightly difficult watch lined up as a future Hall of Fame nomination which I'm seriously considering scrapping - there seems to be hubbub and debate over nominees being too distressing - I don't know. In case anyone is still in doubt though, the animals on the set of The Painted Bird were treated with the upmost compassion and none were harmed whatsoever. It's all special effects.
And - I want to ask in general - does anyone consider that my reviews are a little too lengthy?
Your reviews are fine. You write long and I write short so it evens out.
SpelingError
06-04-22, 12:59 AM
I had a slightly difficult watch lined up as a future Hall of Fame nomination which I'm seriously considering scrapping - there seems to be hubbub and debate over nominees being too distressing - I don't know. In case anyone is still in doubt though, the animals on the set of The Painted Bird were treated with the upmost compassion and none were harmed whatsoever. It's all special effects.
And - I want to ask in general - does anyone consider that my reviews are a little too lengthy?
I don't have an issue with watching distressing films. Again, my issue with The Painted Bird wasn't that it was too distressing, but simply that I was left cold by the film for the reasons I brought up in my review. So I think you should feel free to nominate whatever you want.
Also, I don't think your reviews are too long at all. I always enjoy reading them in these threads as I can tell you put a ton of work into writing them.
ueno_station54
06-04-22, 02:17 AM
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Rams (Grímur Hákonarson, 2015)
I'm sure its a shock to no one when I say this is flat out not my bag. The little-to-no-vibe-or-style-euro-drama thing rarely clicks with me and this is no different. If a work in a visual medium isn't going to be visually engaging I don't know what to tell you lol. Aside from that though, I'm not even really sure what the hook is supposed to be here tbh. I have not the slightest idea what its really going for or how it wants me to feel at any given time. Its just kind of nothing. I appreciate that its not needlessly bleak as a lot of films in this style tend to be and its paced well enough and the last couple scenes are probably strongest which is good I guess? Idk, not much for me to take away from this one but its not like its a bad time or anything.
2.5
ueno_station54
06-04-22, 02:19 AM
is 8 sentences enough to convince anyone i watched the film or...?
Citizen Rules
06-04-22, 02:57 AM
...And - I want to ask in general - does anyone consider that my reviews are a little too lengthy?I was joking of course, just trying to lightening the mood around here, it seemed we needed a little levity earlier today:)
is 8 sentences enough to convince anyone i watched the film or...?
Well I don't know I didn't watch it yet...was there a magical transgender character that didn't exist like in Josie and the Pussycats.
ueno_station54
06-04-22, 03:36 AM
Well I don't know I didn't watch it yet...was there a magical transgender character that didn't exist like in Josie and the Pussycats.
countering my claims of you being an assh*le with a mistake i fully owned up to isn't the own you think it is my dude.
Citizen Rules
06-04-22, 12:10 PM
I've finished the noms and my ballot is finalized so go ahead and send in your voting ballots when you're done.
edarsenal
06-05-22, 02:00 AM
Binging which shows on D+?
Loki, Wanda Vision, Moon Knight, and Obi-Wan, rewatched Mandalorian and Boba Fett. Watched Cruella SEVERAL times lol
MovieGal
06-05-22, 11:20 AM
Loki, Wanda Vision, Moon Knight, and Obi-Wan, rewatched Mandalorian and Boba Fett. Watched Cruella SEVERAL times lol
I have watched Moon Knight and Obi-wan and 3 shows of Boba Fett.
MovieGal
06-05-22, 03:01 PM
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Young Man and his Horn
(1950)
A young lonely boy, who wants to learn to play the trumpet, is taught by a trumpet player in a jazz band. The younger boy looks up to the trumpeter not as just a teacher but as a father figure as well. The young boy grows up to be a talented trumpet player and meets a woman who he falls in love with but she doesn't love him as much. Due to his love for his wife, who responds to everything in a very cold manner, he disregards his close friends and even the love of playing music. Their marriage is in turmoil and their life falls downhill from there. He begins to drink heavily and disregards his responsibilities. He tries to regain what he enjoys in life but things turn for the worst. Finally, his drinking and worries force him to the end and he loses what he once had. Only with the help of his true friends, he's able to gain part of what he had lost.
This is probably only one of the few films I have seen with Kirk Douglas and Doris Day, both. My favorite Kirk Douglas film is "Spartacus", with Tony Curtis, and my favorite Doris Day film is "Please Don't Eat the Daisies" with David Nivens. I have never seen any films with Lauren Bacall.
There are not many films I like from this era but I was kind of excited to see this. It is a good film and I may be up for watching it a second time.
edarsenal
06-08-22, 05:38 PM
I'm surprised you haven't seen any Lauren Bacall films, MovieGal. Huge fan of hers, especially the ones with her husband, Humphry Bogart. I've only recently watched Spartacus from a Personal Rec HoF. Excellent film. Helluva ending.
Nice write-up with a succinct breakdown. Bravo, my dear
edarsenal
06-08-22, 05:39 PM
I have watched Moon Knight and Obi-wan and 3 shows of Boba Fett.
Need to finish Moon Knight, only a couple of episodes in and I'm enjoying Obi-Wan and thoroughly enjoyed Boba Fett.
MovieGal
06-08-22, 06:08 PM
I'm surprised you haven't seen any Lauren Bacall films, MovieGal. Huge fan of hers, especially the ones with her husband, Humphry Bogart. I've only recently watched Spartacus from a Personal Rec HoF. Excellent film. Helluva ending.
Nice write-up with a succinct breakdown. Bravo, my dear
Always my friend Ed.
I don't watch many films that are older than me. Some from 1930a and 1940s I love, like The Picture of Dorian Gray, The Uninvited and Dragonwyck.
I remember watching Johnny Belinda, To Kill a Mockingbird, Pride of The Yankees and a few others. Mark helped me remember Baby Doll, which was strange to a 7 or 8 year old.
I did enjoy Black Narcissus very much.
The other day, I rewatched Lost Horizon and The Island of Dr. Moreau, because of Michael York.
I just can't find films before 1967 (my birth year) that I like, unless it's foreign.
We are only 3 years apart and you enjoy far more than I do.
MovieGal
06-08-22, 06:12 PM
I just can't find films before 1967 (my birth year) that I like, unless it's foreign.
this is why I don't join a personal rec hof, plus I don't want to be forced to watch an American comedy.
edarsenal
06-08-22, 07:00 PM
And - I want to ask in general - does anyone consider that my reviews are a little too lengthy?
It's a helluva long read. But to be honest, what an excellent good read. Some great tidbits of the film, and your experience, and always a great closing outlook. Very cool.
Yes, f@ckin long.
Keep it that way :)
edarsenal
06-08-22, 07:34 PM
Always my friend Ed.
I don't watch many films that are older than me. Some from 1930a and 1940s I love, like The Picture of Dorian Gray, The Uninvited and Dragonwyck.
I remember watching Johnny Belinda, To Kill a Mockingbird, Pride of The Yankees and a few others. Mark helped me remember Baby Doll, which was strange to a 7 or 8 year old.
I did enjoy Black Narcissus very much.
The other day, I rewatched Lost Horizon and The Island of Dr. Moreau, because of Michael York.
We are only 3 years apart and you enjoy far more than I do.
I owe it all to a steady MoFo diet - you know, when I FINALLY drag my @ss to watching lol.
And darlin, you have scenes films I done ain't heard of yet, ESPECIALLY foreign.
Cool list of Hollywood films. You got me on Johnny Belinda and, in fact, again MoFo diet to see the rest of them.
I think I was around 11 or 12 when I saw Baby Doll. Still strange. Transfixed and unsure why at the time, but, yeah,
LOVE Black Narcissus. Need to see that again.
Grew up with Michael York from Drive-In and Movie Theaters, along with Night at The Movies TV. Specifically Logan's Run and he remains in my favorite Three Musketeers being endeared favorites till this day.
edarsenal
06-08-22, 08:30 PM
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My Favorite Year (1982)
"Dying is easy. Comedy is hard"
~Edmund Kean
This film was a BIG Rewatch film on Heavy Rotation in the late Eighties and early Nineties. The number #1 reason was the gracious Peter O'Toole portraying an Errol Flynn with John Barrymore sprinkles character ala Fifties Comedy TV Shows. And I haven't seen it since makes for a Grand Ole Stagger into the Nostalgia Ward, and a pretty enjoyable Stagger it was.
At the time, Benjy, or rather the gentleman playing him, bugged me. He just did.
Though this time around, he didn't, which was a plus being the most visible character throughout. I even enjoyed some of his lil zingers. So, yay,
Another wonderful revisit is seeing Lainie Kazan as Benjy's mom, whom I ADORED in My Big Fat Greek Wedding as. . . the narrator's mom! Kooky.
So I had a great Revisit and, again, truly loved revisiting Peter O'Toole and, for a substantial while, pondered what my Comedy Countdown Vote would have been if I had seen it earlier. Though in hindsight, looking at it now, I'm not so sure who would have to go.
Any perpendicular, A Happy Nostalgia Revisit where I laughed, relaxed, and smiled.
Thanks, Siddon.
edarsenal
06-08-22, 08:35 PM
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MovieGal
06-08-22, 08:47 PM
I owe it all to a steady MoFo diet - you know, when I FINALLY drag my @ss to watching lol.
And darlin, you have scenes films I done ain't heard of yet, ESPECIALLY foreign.
Cool list of Hollywood films. You got me on Johnny Belinda and, in fact, again MoFo diet to see the rest of them.
I think I was around 11 or 12 when I saw Baby Doll. Still strange. Transfixed and unsure why at the time, but, yeah,
LOVE Black Narcissus. Need to see that again.
Grew up with Michael York from Drive-In and Movie Theaters, along with Night at The Movies TV. Specifically Logan's Run and he remains in my favorite Three Musketeers being endeared favorites till this day.
I admit Ed that I was crazy over Micheal York when I was young and YES, Logans Run is a favorite. I'm waiting on the 4K to go with all my other films, like Mad Max, The Beastmaster, Flash Gordon, Howard the Duck , A Clockwork Orange, etc
MovieGal
06-08-22, 11:56 PM
edarsenal
Citizen Rules corrected me, I have seen a film with Lauren Bacall and didn't realize it until I recommended it to him.
edarsenal
06-09-22, 04:04 PM
edarsenal
Citizen Rules corrected me, I have seen a film with Lauren Bacall and didn't realize it until I recommended it to him.
Which one?
MovieGal
06-09-22, 05:06 PM
Which one?
Von Trier's "Dogville". For being a controversial director, it's not a bad film. Has many famous American actors and the concept is interesting. It's like watching a play. The soundstage has chalk layouts for the buildings with a few props. The story is set in the 1950s as well.
He actually has several good films. My favorite is his version of the story of Jason and Medea.
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MovieGal
06-09-22, 06:32 PM
SpelingError how long is your movie?
SpelingError
06-09-22, 06:46 PM
SpelingError how long is your movie?
3hr 42min
It's on YouTube.
MovieGal
06-09-22, 07:43 PM
3hr 42min
It's on YouTube.
Yeah, I started it but had to stop because I had some things I had to do. Sunday morning would be the best time for me.
Citizen Rules
06-09-22, 08:02 PM
Next time around I'm either nominating a really long ass film, or a 1 hour long quickie:D
MovieGal
06-09-22, 09:45 PM
Next time around I'm either nominating a really long ass film, or a 1 hour long quickie:D
Didn't know films had asses. :D
Citizen Rules
06-09-22, 09:50 PM
Didn't know films had asses. :DHa:p
edarsenal
06-09-22, 10:14 PM
Von Trier's "Dogville". For being a controversial director, it's not a bad film. Has many famous American actors and the concept is interesting. It's like watching a play. The soundstage has chalk layouts for the buildings with a few props. The story is set in the 1950s as well.
He actually has several good films. My favorite is his version of the story of Jason and Medea.
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Have never seen a Lars von Trier film. I just checked out Dogville on IMDb and watched the trailer. I'm kinda intrigued.
I think the most recent film role of her was The Shootist (1976) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075213/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_43)
I DID love hearing her voice in the English dubbed Ernest & Celeste (2012) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1816518/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3)
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Citizen Rules
06-09-22, 10:25 PM
The Shootist is the most recent of Lauren Bacall's film I've seen too. I just seen her in Woman's World (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047680/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_62) (1958) a couple weeks ago. She was good in that and it's a solid melo-drama social commentary film.
rauldc14
06-09-22, 10:42 PM
I'm pretty sure I'll make my return for the 29th HOF
Citizen Rules
06-09-22, 10:46 PM
I'm pretty sure I'll make my return for the 29th HOF
Cool beans!
I got a number of really solid films to consider as my nom.
MovieGal
06-09-22, 11:40 PM
I'm pretty sure I'll make my return for the 29th HOF
I.may join and have several ways to go with my nominee but it depends on one thing.
SpelingError
06-10-22, 12:48 AM
I'm pretty sure I'll make my return for the 29th HOF
Yay!
SpelingError
06-10-22, 12:49 AM
Also, I'll nominate a shorter film next time. I have a couple films in mind already.
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The Traveling Players (1975)
I treated this film like Ebert suggested watching the Dekalog watch it over a couple weeks let each scene marinate. The Traveling Players is a non-narrative docudrama if I would describe the film it would be like walking through a museum and looking at a series of pretty pictures. What you notice about the film is that you basically have no characters and no story it's just a process of going from scene to scene during WWII. On occasion we get an actor giving a soliloquies straight to the camera.
Every shot in the film is a flat shot or a tracking shot you have no edits, and no closeups. It feels like every scene is done in one shot...it's a gimmick and a good thing when done sparingly...this film does not do that sparingly. This is a near 4 hour film where every 15 minutes feels like an hour because you have to constantly figure out what you are looking at...it's an exhausting watch. You also had all of these distracting shadows on the top of the frame I felt like I was going to see the boom mic drop in at several points.
Experimental film making is something that is normally bottom tier for me when it comes to these halls. But based on what I've seen so far this flawed experiment is at the very least artistic. I see the merit and skill in which Angelopoulos does his work. But not contextualizing any of the scenes we don't get the stories just the images and Angelopoulos does a great job making those images distinct. Ofcourse you have times in which they become self-indulgent of-course we get a rape scene with a coterie of rapists wearing theatrical masks. The movie always moves away from something realistic into something overtly artistic and borderline pretentious. It doesn't go over the line the way other films in this hall did but it's still close to it.
SpelingError
06-11-22, 10:33 AM
I need a link for Rams
Sent!
edarsenal
06-12-22, 07:36 PM
https://www.on-magazine.co.uk/arts/film-reviews/the-painted-bird-bluray/attachment/the-painted-bird-film-review-bluray/
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The Painted Bird (2017)
These films decimate me
Shot with technical excellence and brilliantly realized machinations thoroughly pinballing the spectrum of the emotional and psychological spectrum with ruthless abandon.
Oh,
How they decimate me
Through a variety of Hof's, I have been pummelled into "awareness" of the cinematic mastery at the cost of a pulpy, ravaged, eviscerated, obscenely violated mass that becomes my heart with every experience of these technically exceptional films.
Some have even achieved an upper average rating in my Vote, it must be noted.
One I continually mention is a Double Title of that specific moment of pummelled awareness along with the title of The Worst Decimation: Nothing Bad Can Happen aka Tore tanzt (2013) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2822400/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)
My dear, sweet friend, MovieGal, ya done pulverized and abducted that Worst Decimation Title and for that, I applaud that accomplishment with every Honour due. And because we ARE friends, my love and respect to say; some small amount of anguish tossed into the experience.
BRAVO my dear
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MovieGal
06-12-22, 07:42 PM
https://www.on-magazine.co.uk/arts/film-reviews/the-painted-bird-bluray/attachment/the-painted-bird-film-review-bluray/
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The Paint Bird (2017)
These films decimate me
Shot with technical excellence and brilliantly realized machinations thoroughly pinballing the spectrum of the emotional and psychological spectrum with ruthless abandon.
Oh,
How they decimate me
Through a variety of Hof's, I have been pummelled into "awareness" of the cinematic mastery at the cost of a pulpy, ravaged, eviscerated, obscenely violated mass that becomes my heart with every experience of these technically exceptional films.
Some have even achieved an upper average rating in my Vote, it must be noted.
One I continually mention being a Double Title of that specific moment of pummelled awareness was achieved as well as The Worst Decimation: Nothing Bad Can Happen aka Tore tanzt (2013) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2822400/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)
My dear, sweet friend, MovieGal, ya done pulverized and abducted that Worst Decimation Title and for that, I applaud that accomplishment with every Honour due. And because we ARE friends, my love and respect to say; some small amount of anguish tossed into the experience.
BRAVO my dear
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edarsenal
It is a beautiful, tragic, dark, disturbing film. A type that I enjoy, as you know. But you, along with several other forum members knows there are two sides of my coin.
The hard, rough, jagged edge and the soft, gentle cloudiness as well.
edarsenal
06-12-22, 07:47 PM
edarsenal
It is a beautiful, tragic, dark, disturbing film. A type that I enjoy, as you know. But you, along with several other forum members knows there are two sides of my coin.
The hard, rough, jagged edge and the soft, gentle cloudiness as well.
I know them both and find it an extraordinary combination thereof.
In my late teens and early twenties, I would have had a more callous skin and twisted appreciation for this side of your coin. Though at this time of my life I do appreciate the beauty - just too much of a softie when it comes to the price extracted. ;)
MovieGal
06-12-22, 07:55 PM
I know them both and find it an extraordinary combination thereof.
In my late teens and early twenties, I would have had a more callous skin and twisted appreciation for this side of your coin. Though at this time of my life I do appreciate the beauty - just too much of a softie when it comes to the price extracted. ;)
Ah, I was a bit opposite. My life has hardened. I enjoy beauty in the darkness and in the light.
Someone once said,
I knew was a very sensitive, intelligent person. Yes she liked extreme horror movies, but in real life, she's a gentle person and wouldn't harm anyone.
So, yes, that does sound like me.
edarsenal
06-12-22, 11:42 PM
Ah, I was a bit opposite. My life has hardened. I enjoy beauty in the darkness and in the light.
Someone once said,
I knew was a very sensitive, intelligent person. Yes she liked extreme horror movies, but in real life, she's a gentle person and wouldn't harm anyone.
So, yes, that does sound like me.
Sounds about right :)
edarsenal
06-13-22, 10:03 PM
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The Travelling Players aka O thiasos (1975)
To explore and, more importantly, genuinely appreciate the continual beauty without being weighed down by the continuous long shots, I opted to break down my several viewings into minor increments. In the beginning, some thirty-plus minutes when an ideal black segue appeared. At times, as short as fifteen minutes to conclude this political history lesson made with a unique, artistic fancy, dancing and singing with off-screen violence. Like, the line of people about to get shot, the would-be execution squad is attacked. The lights go out and (is it wrong that I chuckled and cheered?) as they scattered.
It also caught me bemused, realizing what the man was doing in the rocking chair as the young girl sang. A bottle and her arms concealing her naked torso. That, as he parted and the two shots rang out. I found myself pondering: well, as Last Moments goes, to have a relaxing wank while a pretty girl sings? Not too shabby.
Splitting my sittings to six days, I enjoyed those moments amongst the walking, the walking, and some walking. And the very, very long time before someone eventually, a little bit longer, annnd crumbles to the floor dead.
Another memorable scene for me was the regal woman in the red coat beside the river, having been raped, standing tall with calm reserve, reciting what she saw during the initial conflicts that became the 33-day-long Battle of Athens.
Very powerful. Very, very impressive.
A dirge of a film, but in tiny morsels, is a genuinely exquisite cinematic feast for the eyes and the heart to behold.
EDIT: I forgot to comment, but an excellent example of the artistic fancy was the Sing-Off in the cabaret where one side, hands near guns, scowling at the departing opposing group of singing dancing couples. And then - dance. A wonderfully strange turn of events made me smile AND knit my brow.
Nicely done, Rottooth Jones aka SpelingError..
SpelingError
06-13-22, 10:16 PM
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https://filmitalia.org/Files/2002/01/30/1012395594534.jpg?1093517915413
The Travelling Players aka O thiasos (1975)
To explore and, more importantly, to truly appreciate the continual beauty without being weighed down by the continuous long shots, I opted to break down my several viewings into minor increments. In the beginning, some thirty-plus minutes when an ideal black segue appeared. At times, as short as fifteen minutes to conclude this political history lesson made with a unique, artistic fancy, dancing and singing with off-screen violence. Like, the line of people about to get shot, the would-be execution squad is attacked. The lights go out and (is it wrong that I chuckled and cheered?) as they scattered.
It also caught me bemused, realizing what the man was doing in the rocking chair as the young girl sang. A bottle and her arms concealing her naked torso. That, as he parted and the two shots rang out. I found myself pondering: well, as Last Moments goes, to have a relaxing wank while a pretty girl sings? Not too shabby.
Splitting my sittings to some six days, I enjoyed those moments amongst the walking, the walking, and some walking. And the very, very long time before someone eventually, a little bit longer, annnd crumbles to the floor dead.
Another memorable scene for me was the regal woman in the red coat beside the river, having been raped, standing tall with calm reserve, reciting what she saw during the initial conflicts that became the 33-day-long Battle of Athens.
Very powerful. Very, very impressive.
A dirge of a film, but in small morsels, a truly exquisite cinematic feast for the eyes and the heart.
Nicely done, Rottooth Jones aka SpelingError.
Glad you enjoyed it! That makes three of us so far. You, me, and PHOENIX.
PHOENIX74
06-14-22, 06:46 AM
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Young Man With a Horn - 1950
Directed by Michael Curtiz
Written by Carl Foreman & Edmund H. North
Based on a novel by Dorothy Baker
Starring Kirk Douglas, Lauren Bacall, Doris Day
Hoagy Carmichael & Juano Hernandez
If you die at 28 and leave a lasting musical legacy you're obviously one of those brightly burning flames who are as troubled as you are genius, and are no doubt remembered in some kind of way. 1950 film Young Man With a Horn might be removed from Leon "Bix" Beiderbecke in as much as it has a very regrettable tacked on happy ending, and a main character whose name is Martin, not Beiderbecke, but it's ostensibly about the great musician. Dorothy Baker had written this fictionalized account of his life in 1938 - and 12 years later Warner Brothers arranged a small yet powerful array of talent to bring it to life. Industry giant Michael Curtiz directed, Kirk Douglas starred as Rick Martin, the titular man with his horn, and along with Lauren Bacall a relative newcomer to feature films, recently signed with Warner Brothers and Cutiz himself, Doris Day. All up, it's not bad - whenever it threatens to lag the music cranks up and keeps you invested.
Rick Martin is introduced as a young boy who lost his father very early, and his mother by the time he turned 10. Something of a reckloose, he's never seen at school, but he does loiter a lot - and it's this loitering that first sees him fascinated by a piano in a church and a group of jazz musicians headed by Art Hazzard (Juano Hernández) - who becomes the boy's mentor, and buys him the trumpet he's been eyeing at the local pawn shop. Move on quickly to adult life, the young man (now portrayed by Douglas) heads off to make it on his own, finding a musical home with Jack Chandler's big band and forging new friendships with Willie 'Smoke' Willoughby (Hoagy Carmichael) and Jo Jordan (Doris Day). Chandler's lot are too constrictive though, wanting the free-wheeling jazz-happy Martin to simply play the music that's written. It isn't long before he's fired for encouraging impromptu jam sessions. Martin stays close with Smoke (who was fired with him) and Jo, playing dives and riding his luck - an easy-going kind of guy with nothing to lose.
Into the picture lopes Amy North (Lauren Bacall) - a person with deeply complex psychological problems who talks with something of an intellectual air - which attracts Martin very much. Despite her lack of emotional mannerisms, he falls in love with her and marries her as soon as he possibly can - Jo warns him too late. Amy ends up inadvertently torturing the young Martin, and all signs point to her being gay and obviously conflicted - avoiding Martin as much as she can. He starts to drink heavily and more often, ending his marriage and fobbing off his beloved father-figure Art, who ends up getting run over by a car and dying before Martin can express to him what he meant to the young trumpet player. Now an alcoholic, he attempts to play some kind of mythical high note for one of Jo's recordings and finds he's lost it - soon destroying his own trumpet, which to Martin is akin to destroying his own soul. He languishes in a treatment center, dying of pneumonia before Warner Bros executives decide to intervene.
This frustrating insistence of a happy ending was fought by Kirk Douglas and director Michael Curtiz - it fits neither the story nor the true life figure the story is representing. The book doesn't end that way either. Endings like that are easy to ignore I guess - and with the control of a pause and/or stop button these days you can end Young Man With a Horn before Martin is happily playing (approaching that high note) with Jo - ever after. More understandable, in 1950, is the way the film avoids explicitly telling us that Amy North is gay, although Rick Martin insisting she's sick and needs to see a doctor wouldn't play too well today. I think Lauren Bacall's performance might be the best in the entire film - though she had the one part (other than Martin) that was most complex and interesting. Hoagy Carmichael surprises though, as Smoke Willoughby. The accomplished musician actually knew the real Bix Beiderbecke, and helped Douglas transform into something approximating his real-life inspiration for this film.
Carmichael's Willoughby narrates the film, telling us the story from the very beginning, which makes it all the more odd that Martin isn't dead and as such doesn't merit that kind of absent testimonial. In the meantime Harry James is who we're listening to every time Rick/Douglas puts a trumpet to his lips - in a way that makes him feel like one of the actors, albiet one who is never seen. The Young Man With a Horn LP, with Doris Day singing and Harry James playing, actually hit the number 1 spot on the Billboards chart and spent 11 non-consequetive weeks there. The strength of the music is what really cements the film as very watchable and entertaining. Something always comes along that strikes up a renewed interest in what's going on just through the sounds these people are conjuring, and you have no trouble at all understanding why they're so passionate about the music they're playing/singing. If the music hadn't of been as good, it would have really hurt the finished product - but it's an aspect of the film that really succeeded without doubt.
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The LP that was a huge success in 1950
The illustrious Carl Foreman helped adapt the screenplay with Edmund H. North. Both would be eventual Oscar winners (Foreman already had his first of 7 nominations in the bag for writing the screenplay for Champion the previous year.) North would win one for writing the screenplay for Patton in 1971, and Foreman won for adapting The Bridge on the River Kwai in 1958. A great, and very talented, team, although as a whole the screenplay isn't overly ambitious and challenging, but kept very simple. Director of Photography was Ted D. McCord, nominated 3 times himself. During the studio era it's much more common to see a lot of talent concentrated in one place. The cinematography itself was nothing remarkable, to my memory at least - I don't know if those older films with the box-like aspect ratio of 1.37 : 1 really gave filmmakers less options with what they could cover and do cinematically. I often find myself imagining that I'm in a small theatre, with the unusual (for today) experience of an old-time ratio.
It's worth mentioning, that in the book Martin's close friends Willie 'Smoke' Willoughby and Jo Jordan were black. Apparently acknowledging one of the characters is gay wasn't the only thing filmmakers were uncomfortable with at the time. Who knows, perhaps one day there will be another take on the novel which can finally not only be more explicit when it comes to race and sexual orientation, but also stick with the ending. These aren't the kind of complaints that bring the entire film crashing down though, it's still a pretty good faux-biography. I'm always grateful to be shown my way around the film landscape of this era - one I'm particularly ignorant about, where there seem to be great rediscoveries around every corner. The actors here are all so young, with brilliant careers ahead of them, and really give their roles everything - it's just that Bacall got the best role.
I enjoyed this movie. It's one you can sit back and enjoy in it's simplicity and straightforward telling, with some really great music and enthusiasm that's infectious. Everything is straight to the point, and it has a really complex character in Amy North and a figure of historical interest in the jazzman Bix Beiderbecke getting a film based on him to the big screen. Doris Day sings really well, and the filmmakers here don't really push her beyond her comfort zones in an emotional sense, which was a really astute move. Kirk Douglas gives his tragic character a real sense of happiness in his music, which is infringed upon when outside emotional influences begin to poison that soulful place the music comes from. He doesn't really let himself go all the way - not the way an actor might do these days - but it helps to keep the film from becoming too weighed down with drama. Around the time his marriage is failing, his mentor also dies - just as he's becoming an alcoholic. Sometimes it's a tightrope walk just keeping things from becoming too dark and dire.
I'm not really a massive fan of jazz or trumpet music in particular, and I'd hate to be Rick Martin's neighbour (it's said that Bix Beiderbecke had frustrated ones) - nevertheless, on the whole, this is a good film, and would have been rated ever so slightly higher if they hadn't of ended the film with Martin suddenly getting much better and happily blowing his horn next to Jo. I'm not saying that I love happy or sad endings, but whatever ending a film does have should at least match the tone of where it's going. The ending was one note that, if this were a trumpet tune, was a bum note - and so bad that it's glaringly obvious it's a bum note. I wanted to really emphasize that. Otherwise, it's probably exactly the kind of film I'd be going to see if I was a film-going adult in 1950. It came from a great director, great writers and was performed by great actors - and it was based on a great musician. It flows forward at a steady pace, and the music we hear compliments what we see every single step of the way.
3.5
Here in Australia, the film is known as Young Man With a Trumpet - the real title actually being censored - and if you are Australian the title, and film poster, look a little odd. I wasn't sure whether to include that little factoid - I simply don't think anyone else could really see it the way I do. The IMDb explains why. I'll just leave this down here in small print.
edarsenal
06-14-22, 07:27 PM
Glad you enjoyed it! That makes three of us so far. You, me, and PHOENIX.
I could see a revisit due to the scenes above and others not mentioned, but it would be in vignette style. The long wait time of -- well, every shot, would diminish the enjoyment of a number of sequences, I'm afraid.
But, yeah, count me in :)
edarsenal
06-14-22, 07:40 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/RFTsQ4n4/young-man-with-a-horn.jpg
Young Man With a Horn - 1950
Directed by Michael Curtiz
Written by Carl Foreman & Edmund H. North
Based on a novel by Dorothy Baker
Starring Kirk Douglas, Lauren Bacall, Doris Day
Hoagy Carmichael & Juano Hernandez
If you die at 28 and leave a lasting musical legacy you're obviously one of those brightly burning flames who are as troubled as you are genius, and are no doubt remembered in some kind of way. 1950 film Young Man With a Horn might be removed from Leon "Bix" Beiderbecke in as much as it has a very regrettable tacked on happy ending, and a main character whose name is Martin, not Beiderbecke, but it's ostensibly about the great musician. Dorothy Baker had written this fictionalized account of his life in 1938 - and 12 years later Warner Brothers arranged a small yet powerful array of talent to bring it to life. Industry giant Michael Curtiz directed, Kirk Douglas starred as Rick Martin, the titular man with his horn, and along with Lauren Bacall a relative newcomer to feature films, recently signed with Warner Brothers and Cutiz himself, Doris Day. All up, it's not bad - whenever it threatens to lag the music cranks up and keeps you invested.
Rick Martin is introduced as a young boy who lost his father very early, and his mother by the time he turned 10. Something of a reckloose, he's never seen at school, but he does loiter a lot - and it's this loitering that first sees him fascinated by a piano in a church and a group of jazz musicians headed by Art Hazzard (Juano Hernández) - who becomes the boy's mentor, and buys him the trumpet he's been eyeing at the local pawn shop. Move on quickly to adult life, the young man (now portrayed by Douglas) heads off to make it on his own, finding a musical home with Jack Chandler's big band and forging new friendships with Willie 'Smoke' Willoughby (Hoagy Carmichael) and Jo Jordan (Doris Day). Chandler's lot are too constrictive though, wanting the free-wheeling jazz-happy Martin to simply play the music that's written. It isn't long before he's fired for encouraging impromptu jam sessions. Martin stays close with Smoke (who was fired with him) and Jo, playing dives and riding his luck - an easy-going kind of guy with nothing to lose.
Into the picture lopes Amy North (Lauren Bacall) - a person with deeply complex psychological problems who talks with something of an intellectual air - which attracts Martin very much. Despite her lack of emotional mannerisms, he falls in love with her and marries her as soon as he possibly can - Jo warns him too late. Amy ends up inadvertently torturing the young Martin, and all signs point to her being gay and obviously conflicted - avoiding Martin as much as she can. He starts to drink heavily and more often, ending his marriage and fobbing off his beloved father-figure Art, who ends up getting run over by a car and dying before Martin can express to him what he meant to the young trumpet player. Now an alcoholic, he attempts to play some kind of mythical high note for one of Jo's recordings and finds he's lost it - soon destroying his own trumpet, which to Martin is akin to destroying his own soul. He languishes in a treatment center, dying of pneumonia before Warner Bros executives decide to intervene.
This frustrating insistence of a happy ending was fought by Kirk Douglas and director Michael Curtiz - it fits neither the story nor the true life figure the story is representing. The book doesn't end that way either. Endings like that are easy to ignore I guess - and with the control of a pause and/or stop button these days you can end Young Man With a Horn before Martin is happily playing (approaching that high note) with Jo - ever after. More understandable, in 1950, is the way the film avoids explicitly telling us that Amy North is gay, although Rick Martin insisting she's sick and needs to see a doctor wouldn't play too well today. I think Lauren Bacall's performance might be the best in the entire film - though she had the one part (other than Martin) that was most complex and interesting. Hoagy Carmichael surprises though, as Smoke Willoughby. The accomplished musician actually knew the real Bix Beiderbecke, and helped Douglas transform into something approximating his real-life inspiration for this film.
Carmichael's Willoughby narrates the film, telling us the story from the very beginning, which makes it all the more odd that Martin isn't dead and as such doesn't merit that kind of absent testimonial. In the meantime Harry James is who we're listening to every time Rick/Douglas puts a trumpet to his lips - in a way that makes him feel like one of the actors, albiet one who is never seen. The Young Man With a Horn LP, with Doris Day singing and Harry James playing, actually hit the number 1 spot on the Billboards chart and spent 11 non-consequetive weeks there. The strength of the music is what really cements the film as very watchable and entertaining. Something always comes along that strikes up a renewed interest in what's going on just through the sounds these people are conjuring, and you have no trouble at all understanding why they're so passionate about the music they're playing/singing. If the music hadn't of been as good, it would have really hurt the finished product - but it's an aspect of the film that really succeeded without doubt.
https://i.postimg.cc/J02QPn7V/young-man-with-a-horn-album.jpg
The LP that was a huge success in 1950
The illustrious Carl Foreman helped adapt the screenplay with Edmund H. North. Both would be eventual Oscar winners (Foreman already had his first of 7 nominations in the bag for writing the screenplay for Champion the previous year.) North would win one for writing the screenplay for Patton in 1971, and Foreman won for adapting The Bridge on the River Kwai in 1958. A great, and very talented, team, although as a whole the screenplay isn't overly ambitious and challenging, but kept very simple. Director of Photography was Ted D. McCord, nominated 3 times himself. During the studio era it's much more common to see a lot of talent concentrated in one place. The cinematography itself was nothing remarkable, to my memory at least - I don't know if those older films with the box-like aspect ratio of 1.37 : 1 really gave filmmakers less options with what they could cover and do cinematically. I often find myself imagining that I'm in a small theatre, with the unusual (for today) experience of an old-time ratio.
It's worth mentioning, that in the book Martin's close friends Willie 'Smoke' Willoughby and Jo Jordan were black. Apparently acknowledging one of the characters is gay wasn't the only thing filmmakers were uncomfortable with at the time. Who knows, perhaps one day there will be another take on the novel which can finally not only be more explicit when it comes to race and sexual orientation, but also stick with the ending. These aren't the kind of complaints that bring the entire film crashing down though, it's still a pretty good faux-biography. I'm always grateful to be shown my way around the film landscape of this era - one I'm particularly ignorant about, where there seem to be great rediscoveries around every corner. The actors here are all so young, with brilliant careers ahead of them, and really give their roles everything - it's just that Bacall got the best role.
I enjoyed this movie. It's one you can sit back and enjoy in it's simplicity and straightforward telling, with some really great music and enthusiasm that's infectious. Everything is straight to the point, and it has a really complex character in Amy North and a figure of historical interest in the jazzman Bix Beiderbecke getting a film based on him to the big screen. Doris Day sings really well, and the filmmakers here don't really push her beyond her comfort zones in an emotional sense, which was a really astute move. Kirk Douglas gives his tragic character a real sense of happiness in his music, which is infringed upon when outside emotional influences begin to poison that soulful place the music comes from. He doesn't really let himself go all the way - not the way an actor might do these days - but it helps to keep the film from becoming too weighed down with drama. Around the time his marriage is failing, his mentor also dies - just as he's becoming an alcoholic. Sometimes it's a tightrope walk just keeping things from becoming too dark and dire.
I'm not really a massive fan of jazz or trumpet music in particular, and I'd hate to be Rick Martin's neighbour (it's said that Bix Beiderbecke had frustrated ones) - nevertheless, on the whole, this is a good film, and would have been rated ever so slightly higher if they hadn't of ended the film with Martin suddenly getting much better and happily blowing his horn next to Jo. I'm not saying that I love happy or sad endings, but whatever ending a film does have should at least match the tone of where it's going. The ending was one note that, if this were a trumpet tune, was a bum note - and so bad that it's glaringly obvious it's a bum note. I wanted to really emphasize that. Otherwise, it's probably exactly the kind of film I'd be going to see if I was a film-going adult in 1950. It came from a great director, great writers and was performed by great actors - and it was based on a great musician. It flows forward at a steady pace, and the music we hear compliments what we see every single step of the way.
3.5
Here in Australia, the film is known as Young Man With a Trumpet - the real title actually being censored - and if you are Australian the title, and film poster, look a little odd. I wasn't sure whether to include that little factoid - I simply don't think anyone else could really see it the way I do. The IMDb explains why. I'll just leave this down here in small print.
Oh how DO enjoy that you continue in full-length! THANK YOU
Some great details comparing the Book, the Life, and what the Film censored.
I have a very strong feeling I will be feeling the same regarding ending with a kind of Disney happy ending. I felt the same about Baby Face (1933) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023775/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0).
Still, I continue to grow more and more excited to check it out.
The usual Awesome Job, Phoenix!!
ueno_station54
06-17-22, 10:22 PM
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Cuties (Maďmouna Doucouré, 2020)
Ok so I assumed this wouldn't be as bad as the media made it out to be (if it was every copy of it would have been fired into the sun) but I'm not sure it's that much better than the media made it out to be. The idea here is "coming-of-age film but make it spicy" which doesn't feel like the most unique idea and you can do something worthwhile with that concept but unfortunately the film is pretty light on ideas beyond that. Being light on ideas is far from the worst sin a film can commit but when one of the ideas is presenting children in a heavily sexualized manner, boy does that make it feel like that was the only thing the film wanted to do lol. Obviously that's not the intent of the director here, there's clearly things that can be said about how sexualized media is and how that's promoted to young people and whatnot and this film is clearly trying to do that but its not really handled with the deftest of hands. In other words, its more of an irresponsible film than it is outright fetish-bait (but I'd still be hella sus of someone saying this was a fave of there's).
Anyway, outside of the shock value is there anything here? Not really. Completely unambitious in terms of story and I'd say just about every aspect of the story is underdeveloped. Now you know I don't care at all about story in film so that's fine but there's really almost nothing of note in the filmmaking either. No real interesting or memorable shots, just bland all the way through. I like some of the songs used, so there's that I guess and its not like its a chore to sit through or anything. Watching it dubbed definitely didn't help either (though i'll take it over the subs in the copy of Rams I watched lmao). So yeah, it isn't necessarily a bad film because its presenting children the way it is, its a bad film because it isn't doing anything else.
2
MovieGal
06-18-22, 03:29 PM
I'm throwing this out there for edarsenal
Not many youngins know who this is. :lol:
87594
ueno_station54
06-18-22, 04:23 PM
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My Favorite Year (Richard Benjamin, 1982)
Well then... that sure was nothing. Just a stock studio drama by a no-name director and is as bland and passably entertaining as one would expect. Passes the time without anything of note or interest occurring but it does in fact pass the time and that's more than I can say for a few of the films nominated this time round lmao. Actually the last scene is kind of fun, so there's that but I'll quickly forget about everything else. Oh, and to cast Cameron Mitchell and not have him raise his voice is an absolute crime.
rating_2_5
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Rams (2015)
Rams is one of those small indie films with excellent production values and engaging story and not a whole lot else. This is the story of a pair of brothers who live on a small island...when a virus comes along all the sheep and rams have to be destroyed. The performances are fine, I don't think we ever really get to know either man which is a problem. Visually it's impressive and the plot outline is pretty good, while the ending is predictable it is satisfying and well done.
The problem with films in this Hall is what exactly do you have to write about? And well seeing as how everyone in this hall is acting like [REDACTED]. Didn't really need to see old naked men but apparently that's what goes for art in these halls. The animals aren't really given any personality or distinction throughout the film it's the biggest mistake from the filmmakers. You are supposed to have empathy for the animals as they are the titular characters but with this film they really just play as background for the brothers issues. It doesn't make for an enjoyable film watching experience...in the end of the day I'm likely going to just forget what I saw.
ueno_station54
06-18-22, 11:56 PM
wowow five whole sentences. i don't know gang, do we think this guy actually watched the film?
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Young Man with a Horn (1950)
It's a sad state of affairs when this is likely my number #2 film right now. Young Man with a Horn is kinda a mess of film. It's basically three different films told in three different acts...it starts off as a Citizen Kane ripoff moves into musical/romance territory and closes out as a noir. It's like you are watching something that doesn't know what it wants to be. Kurt Douglas plays a horn player who starts to court Doris Day. This is early Doris Day she's playing a Judy Garland style role here where she's the virtuous girl as opposed to Lauren Bacall's darker character.
The problem is in a film like this you kinda strip away the sex and drugs and left with drinking and ennui. It's not really enough for a third act of a story. Amy just isn't written well enough at this point to be a good enough antagonist and the romance and conflict with Jo is simply to hurried. Had the film simply tried to be a musical it could have been much greater rather than being simply good.
The music is the strongest part of the film and the thing that carries it along. This is the part where Doris Day shines...the fact that you get orchestra style music to go with the lounge act keeps things from becoming tedious. It's the first two acts which helps lift it ahead of some of junk nominated in this hall.
Why can't we all just get along? Hug it out, people!
ueno_station54
06-19-22, 08:39 AM
anyway...
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Young Man with a Horn (Michael Curtiz, 1950)
I'll admit that, even though I do tend to end up liking films of this ilk/era, they don't inherently appeal to me and it took me a couple tries to get past the first 10 minutes with this one lol. The second it looks like I'm having to watch someone's whole-ass life story I lose interest hard but we do eventually settle in to a groove here and while its is pretty by the numbers for this type of film (I am no expert on the genre mind you) in its story beats and presentation, I do very much like the music and there's a shit ton of it. I find a lot of films that focus in on a special interest (sports, music, etc.) don't give you enough of it but no here I'm pretty satisfied. Its certainly nothing special, riding all the tropes I like and dislike of the style, but how can I dislike a film that's bopping this hard all the way through?
3.5
MovieMeditation
06-19-22, 08:50 AM
Damn y’all… Hall of Fame turning into Hall of Shame real quick!
Damn y’all… Hall of Fame turning into Hall of Shame real quick!
Yeah I know it's crazy it's almost like people nominating movies with bestiality, feces, rape, pedophilia and animal torture would put you in a bad mood.
It's even better when someone decides to rehash the issue weeks later. Especially when that person was busted for giving false information about a film they "allegedly" watched.
MovieMeditation
06-19-22, 09:12 AM
Yeah I know it's crazy it's almost like people nominating movies with bestiality, feces, rape, pedophilia and animal torture would put you in a bad mood.
It's even better when someone decides to rehash the issue weeks later. Especially when that person was busted for giving false information about a film they "allegedly" watched.
Obviously I can’t comment on what’s been going on in this thread the past weeks, so admittedly it’s not very constructive or needed that I even comment here.
But I was just surprised, cause I like to check into these Hall of Fame threads once in a while - even if I’m not in it - to see what’s up and what people write and say.
But I didn’t exactly expect to to run head first into something like this 😧
ueno_station54
06-19-22, 09:37 AM
It's even better when someone decides to rehash the issue weeks later. Especially when that person was busted for giving false information about a film they "allegedly" watched.
you can resolve the issue whenever you wish <3
I don't think anyone is trolling the hall or acting in bad faith. Even for films I didn't like, I do believe that the person who nominated them did so sincerely and genuinely felt that their film was a worthy nomination. I don't see any reason why someone would lie and pretend they had watched a film if they had not.
Okay, I hadn't seen any of this until just now, or else I would've intervened sooner. I've deleted a few posts, and I'd like to make a few things clear:
1) No personally attacking people. Period. There might be a handful of situations where someone is being provocative enough that it can be overlooked (though not exactly condoned), but being accused of things like nominating something incendiary or not watching a film is not anywhere close to sufficient for that.
2) It is entirely reasonable not to want to watch something you find deeply disturbing. I would hope people would take that kind of thing into account when nominating, and be upfront about it. Similarly, if people don't want to watch something for such a reason, I'd hope they'd be upfront about it, too. Seems like a pretty easy thing for someone to say "sorry this would bother me too much" and for another person to say "fair enough, it's not for everyone," if that is indeed what's happened.
3) Ultimately, all decisions are made by the person running the thing. If there's a dispute that doesn't fall under basic site rules, please defer to them.
4) When someone IS being attacked or harassed, I expect someone to report it to a mod, whether they agree with the position or not. Don't assume we see everything, because there's a lot to keep track of. Please report things, we will never be upset about receiving a report for something we already know about.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 10:56 AM
To help everyone get along, I decided to buy you all a cake:
87604
Uh, pardon the message. This was all I could find at the store.
MovieGal
06-19-22, 03:41 PM
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The Travelling Players
(1975)
The film follows a troupe of performers across Greece before, during, and after WW2. It shows the friendship, love, and animosity of a large group, some of the characters were related, as they travel. At times they came upon the miliatry of the countries involved during their time in Greece. Also, this film is filled with atrocities of war. This film was long and had a lot taking place during it. I enjoyed scenes of poetic words including during the rehearsal and even in other scenes as well. I enjoyed some of the self-dialog as a few spoke directly to the camera.
I knew nothing about Greece's position during WW2. I was a bit confused at the beginning of the timeline. I asked Spelingerror when the film was to take place because to me, some of the costuming seems to be more from the early 70s than WW2. Overall, I enjoyed the film and will add it to my list of films about WW2 that I have seen.
Citizen Rules
The scene where you asked about the woman crying after she viewed the two having sex, the scene of the one narrator being shot by the firing squad, and the two actors being shot and killed onstage during the play are all related.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 03:52 PM
https://maximilienproctor.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/travellingplayers1.jpg?w=1920&h=768&crop=1
The Travelling Players
(1975)
The film follows a troupe of performers across Greece before, during, and after WW2. It shows the friendship, love, and animosity of a large group, some of the characters were related, as they travel. At times they came upon the miliatry of the countries involved during their time in Greece. Also, this film is filled with atrocities of war. This film was long and had a lot taking place during it. I enjoyed scenes of poetic words including during the rehearsal and even in other scenes as well. I enjoyed some of the self-dialog as a few spoke directly to the camera.
I knew nothing about Greece's position during WW2. I was a bit confused at the beginning of the timeline. I asked Spelingerror when the film was to take place because to me, some of the costuming seems to be more from the early 70s than WW2. Overall, I enjoyed the film and will add it to my list of films about WW2 that I have seen.
Citizen Rules
The scene where you asked about the woman crying after she viewed the two having sex, the scene of the one narrator being shot by the firing squad, and the two actors being shot and killed onstage during the play are all related.
Glad you enjoyed it! I'll probably make my nomination under 90 minutes to make up for this one :D
MovieGal
06-19-22, 03:55 PM
Glad you enjoyed it! I'll probably make my nomination under 90 minutes to make up for this one :D
Please do! I will probably bring a light hearted one next.
SpelingError
It was beautifully shot as well. I enjoyed some of the camera angels and shot locations.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 04:06 PM
It was beautifully shot as well. I enjoyed some of the camera angels and shot locations.
I especially loved the gunfight between the Nazi and Communist patrols in an alleyway which was shown through the spaces between two buildings, in particular. That scene is nothing short of perfect.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 04:06 PM
Also, I have a couple ideas in mind of what my next nomination will be.
Citizen Rules
06-19-22, 04:15 PM
Deadline is June 22nd at midnight PST. I'm not really in the mood to extend it either.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 04:17 PM
I predict that Miracle Mile or Young Man With a Horn will win this Hall.
MovieGal
06-19-22, 04:37 PM
I predict that Miracle Mile or Young Man With a Horn will win this Hall.
I know where mine will be and I accept that. I respect several participants' opinions on cinema so hey I understand.
Citizen Rules
06-19-22, 11:09 PM
I have no idea where any of the noms will land...and I have the voting list too! (I don't use a spreadsheet and haven't really looked much at the list, so don't really know anymore than you guys do).
rauldc14
06-19-22, 11:17 PM
29th looks like it's on the way! Probably tracking to start when I'm on vacation lol
rauldc14
06-19-22, 11:19 PM
Obviously I can’t comment on what’s been going on in this thread the past weeks, so admittedly it’s not very constructive or needed that I even comment here.
But I was just surprised, cause I like to check into these Hall of Fame threads once in a while - even if I’m not in it - to see what’s up and what people write and say.
But I didn’t exactly expect to to run head first into something like this 😧
I haven't seen many but the quality of films surely seems to be lacking here.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 11:25 PM
Eh, I gave 5/8 movies in this Hall a 7/10 or higher, so I enjoyed this Hall for the most part.
ueno_station54
06-19-22, 11:29 PM
yeah this was a weird one lol.
MovieGal
06-19-22, 11:34 PM
I enjoyed the films for the most part.
SpelingError
06-19-22, 11:37 PM
When a Hall is filled with obscure nominations, I think it's normal for the participants to be split on them, but I think this Hall had some nice variation as all the other Halls I've been in so far have had at least a couple well-known classics nominated that I imagine most people here have already seen, so it was nice to get a Hall filled with mostly obscure films I might not have ever heard of otherwise. I'm not sure I'd want this kind of selection for every Hall, but I still enjoyed the detour.
MovieGal
06-19-22, 11:41 PM
The only two I had seen before was my film and Rams. Cuties was interesting as well as The Travelling Players. I figured I would like Miracle Mile more as Anthony Edwards and Mare Winningham were popular when I was a teen. I was surprised that I enjoyed Young Man With A Horn as much as I did. Blue Spring was more like live action anime.
I guess the point of the HOF is to discover films you may never watch
rauldc14
06-19-22, 11:43 PM
Why is that the point? I don't comprehend that. I feel like that wasn't the halls original intentions. Not saying it's a bad thing, just that I didn't expect that to define it.
Even though I didn't enjoy every movie in the Hall, I still enjoyed it overall. And even though there was some disagreements and squabbles, I still love each and every one of you. ❤️
SpelingError
06-20-22, 12:40 AM
And even though there was some disagreements and squabbles, I still love each and every one of you. ❤️
Aw, thanks bestie. Love u 2 :heart:
PHOENIX74
06-20-22, 01:20 AM
Well, I usually do a recap, and seeing as everyone is discussing how this Hall of Fame went it seems appropriate. It has felt like a strange one (I don't mean that in a bad way) with no clear frontrunner going by everyone's reviews. For me though - I've only considered two films real 'masterpieces' after first being introduced to them in these Halls, one was Sweet Smell of Success - it's been nominated three times so far, and despite ever so deserving a place it doesn't have one yet. The other was in this Hall - The Travelling Players. I can see why not everyone liked it, but for me it was the best first-viewing experience I've had this year - and I truly loved it. I hope Criterion release a good copy of it one day. I'd love for it to win - but I don't think it's going to.
So...that means one of 7 seemingly unlikely films will be added to the Hall of Fame. I wouldn't consider any of them bad - My Favorite Year has been touted as a favourite (to use the spelling we have over where I'm situated) film of many everywhere I go. I chiefly point the finger at Mark Linn-Baker for letting the movie down - Peter O'Toole was great, and I love Jessica Harper. Also, as a director Richard Benjamin leaves a lot to be desired. It's not personally where I'm at, but for some reason I've seen the damned thing 4 or 5 times in my life for various reasons. It's like chewing gum stuck to the sole of my shoe.
Young Man With a Horn is a decent chance of winning. It's music excels - and I thought it was pretty good. It got nowhere near where I consider The Travelling Players is in my mind, but I can tell quite a few are going to favour it in their ballots. Rams was my "pretty sure people haven't seen this" pick on my 'three-types' Hall of Fame nominating cycle. The first time I saw it I was blown away - this second time a little less so, but I still think it's a quality film up there in the same category as most of the films here. MovieGal had seen it, but 6/7 isn't bad. Miracle Mile is a really interesting nomination - I'd never even heard of this film, and it's so full of great 80s stuff that I'm surprised I hadn't. It fulfilled one of the best factors of participating in these - seeing interesting films you'd otherwise never have had the chance to.
The Painted Bird seems like winning the 'most controversial' award (there seems to be at least one in each hall.) Personally, I enjoy being shocked and appalled some of the time (I got Visitor Q in a PR Hall of Fame once - that was a doozy.) That film's problems only really became clear when I read someone else's review here and they mentioned the kid playing the lead role. They picked the wrong boy - that really struck me. It was a huge film, and everything about it was interesting and really intense - and it had Udo Kier in it as a big bonus. I liked it as much as I did Miracle Mile and Young Man With a Horn (and it probably rates on the same level Rams does with me now.) Blue Spring was yet another film I thought was up on that level - just short of greatness, but really good. I play Thee Michelle Gun Elephant's song 'Drop' often - it became a new favourite, and it's the song that plays during the end credits.
So that just leaves Cuties (Mignonnes) which I was properly impressed by. Debut director Maďmouna Doucouré doesn't deserve the flak from all the controversy the Netflix poster of her film inflamed, as it's message is counter to what she was being accused of. How you make a film about an issue without visually approaching it is beyond me, but the lesson to me is just stay away from all of that unless you're ready to be pilloried by the online community. I'm guessing that's why there are so few films dealing with relevant issues these days - this new digital mob is just as scary as the one from Frankenstein.
MovieGal
06-20-22, 12:17 PM
PHOENIX74
One thing you will learn about me is I LOVE Nordic cinema. Hence, you all are pirates and I'm a Viking.
I have a long running list of films I have seen from Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland and Estonia.
I have a few I have seen from other small European countries as well. I need to work on that one more.
edarsenal
06-20-22, 09:50 PM
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Mignonnes aka Cuties (2020)
Impressive. Actually.
The anti-message played out quite beautifully as our leading Cutie, having followed the due course of exploring something she shouldn't be with an addict's behavior pattern: Interest, Indulging, Addiction/Terrible Life Choices, and eventual bottoming out and seeking Rehabilitation when she skips rope, the camera moving upward, we see her appear at the apex of each jump expressing how she rises in the joy of being a kid. (I truly liked that ending).
For a very touchy subject matter, I do think the Writer/Director Maďmouna Doucouré did a commendable and engaging job with this film. The storytelling of Amy's home life, her friendship with Angelica, and some amusing moments like Amy attempting to Iron her hair, to some very realistic interaction as the girls fight, argue, laugh, and shop - very VERY happily.
Maďmouna Doucouré also did a great job showing the saturation of sexy behavior and its enticement for so many kids that mirror it by using a Dance Contest as the main illustration.
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Cuties (2020)
The controversial netflix film Cuties tells the story of an african islamic 11 year old who decides she wants to dance with a series of sexualized 11 year olds. Cuties is an interesting film it attempts to touch on a number of social issues but doesn't really latch onto any one of them. It's what a call a spaghetti film in that it throws everything at the wall and sees what sticks. For Cuties it's the male gaze and the sexualization of pre-pubescent girls.
Now you have a lot of directions the film could have gone in to make it more inciteful. The lead character is the daughter of a polygamist family that is just getting a second wife and starting a second family. That's a direction I think the film should have gone further into but it also gives us the second reasoning of what the girls see in media and how they act. One of those directions would have been a good idea going in two directions you get half the impact.
The performances from the child actors covers the wide spectrum of good to bad. Stories like this tend to work better when you approach it from a state of normalcy like Thirteen(2003) or Eight Grade (2018)...you start at a more accessible point because your character is going on a journey and you don't want to spend the entire first act establishing who this character is.
You also have plot points that would have likely hit harder if it were 12-13 year olds not pre-pubecent girls. You have a incident with a photo that shouldn't really of had the impact that it had in the story. Theirs a line where they say the girls are dancers not strippers...that doesn't really feel like dialogue an 11 year old would say. The good aspect of the film is that it's very quickly paced...this under two hours and like I said it has a lot of plot movements so you don't have to dwell on the uncomfortable aspects of the story for too long. Would I recommend...no but I didn't hate it.
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Miracle Mile (1988)
Yuppies in Peril is a fascinating subgenre of the 80's. As the world became decadent you had these greater fears that certain filmmakers tried to take advantage of. Normally it's a white guy who get's sucked into a strange world by a mysterious woman. Miracle Mile is one of those films but it does some more interesting things with it. To start off with having Mare Whiningham and Anthony Edwards as the leads when they are normally the sidekick character actors was casting genius. Also the fear is an atomic missile coming to destroy LA is smart.
It's not a perfect film, the humor aspect of the genre doesn't really work it's somewhat offputting as are a number of the supporting performances. Everyone acts in exactly the most stereotypical way possible. It does give the film a different context because Mare makes a number of interesting character choices in her performances. While the film feels dated in that way it still works for what it's going for.
The city is also it's own character how the quiet empty streets slowly fill up as the story goes on until the final act where it's just a metropolis of madness. It's stuff like that, that elevates the made for TV plot of the film. I don't know if I would ever revisit a film like this but comparing it to the other films I other watched it's going to score highly,
I predict Young Man With a Horn will win this hall and I’m fine with that.
edarsenal
06-21-22, 10:10 PM
Me too.
The fine part I mean :)
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My Favorite Year (1982)
My favorite year is a comedy period piece that tells the story of a fading 30's Screen Star who has to do a guest spot on a popular live 50's comedy show. It's basically a story of generations told through the eyes of three key men...Allan Swan (played by Peter O'Toole) who is based on Errol Flynn, Benjy Stone (played by Mark-Lynn Baker) who is based on Mel Brooks and King Kaiser (played by Josephn Bologna) based on Sid Caeser. Swan is a fading star, Stone is a rising writer and Kaiser is the star/producer of the show. Swann is a drunken womanizer who Caeser doesn't know if he can make and perform for the audience (20 million home viewers and live studio audience). Stone has to babysit him for the week.
My Favorite Year does two things very well...because this is basically true stories from the early days of television all the characters are real. You get pathological behavior that's authentic and unique this isn't inspired by the movies but rather people behind the films. The other thing is the film is about jokes...it's a comedy but it also dissects what makes a joke good. Slap stick, visual gags, word play all show up, it's trying to tell you what makes a joke work.
The film is Peter O'Toole best work, he plays against type taking a much more physical role where he prat falls and jumps and swings around with the energy of a 50's pirate. But then he stops and takes a moment to charm people in his life...he's a good man but a flawed one. The stakes aren't really that big and for me that's okay you don't need to always go overboard with a story sometimes less is more.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 09:19 PM
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Blue Spring aka Aoi haru (2001)
School days, school days, crazy, bloody, school days. . .
In a dilapidated school building, we meet eight youths playing a dangerous game, "Clap." The winner becomes the "Boss," and this begins the eventual graphic violence that is unleashed amongst the teenage angst done to some pretty d@mn cool rock music and, befitting Japanese filmmaking, a poetry to the moments of introspective indifference, pondering speculation of life beyond school and the violence that ensue.
Of the large group of boys, my favorite was the calm, lucid Kujo, willing to defend his new reign without the need for blustering or boasting.
My only minor critique is the lack of any other adult teachers except the one classroom and the wise gardener who truly cares.
Despite this, I include this in the very recent enjoyable Ueno Nominations. Nicely done!!
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 09:20 PM
87665
Miracle Mile (1988)
Director & Writer: Steve De Jarnatt
Julie (Mare Winningham): pleading with a hopeful tone:
'People are going to help each other, won't they? I mean, rebuilding things. The survivors, I mean.'
Harry (Anthony Edwards): answering with a calm, fatalistic voice:
'I think it's the insects' turn.'
Me too...
edarsenal
06-22-22, 09:40 PM
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Young Man With a Horn (1950)
I SOOO do LOVE when a Blind Grab hits the mark on so many levels as this film has done for me. And even with the more Studio-approved ending, it still scored pretty high for me. But then, Lauren Bacall playing a cool, collective, complex individual like nobody's business, truly set the bar before I even started watching this. And, I believe it was Phoenix and most likely others remarking on the incredible music at the very soul of this film of a gifted man, his absolute dedication and love for playing. Then, sadly, the very common ground of flying and crashing with all the craft Kirk Douglas has in spades continually raised my enjoyment.
Doris Day was a delight in this, especially when she sang. So was the cigarette smoking, piano man played by Hoagy Carmichael, and Rick's mentor and father figure, Juano Hernandez.
Add to all of this some fine cinematography, and this previously unknown gem scores, as I've said, pretty effin high for me.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:03 PM
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Rams aka Hrútar (2015)
Beautifully shot, this reflective film of two estranged brothers living next door to one another with a shared love for raising sheep. Hit hard, along with the valley, when an incurable, spreadable disease "scapies" strikes, creating an even more extreme scenario that both must somehow deal with.
The subtitles in the version I watched weren't all that great, but then the characters and their actions expressed beyond words all that was going on within solitary lives.
And that visual aspect brings the layers and depths to this story of hardship and loss of what is precious and what matters.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:18 PM
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Miracle Mile (1988)
The terrible things you hear when you answer a pay phone.
Waking up three hours late for a date, Harry discovers that LA is about to be hit by a missile attack and makes a mad dash to find his love, Julie before it hits and it's the insects' turn.
A highlight for me was seeing a few surprise secondary actors from other favorites. Like Mr. Blue from Reservoir Dogs in the top pic along with Mykelti Williamson whom I've enjoyed in Lucy Number Slevin and in the TV Series Justified.
The shift from a Romantic film to the panicked frenzy of an End of the World scenario was done rather well without going too far off the rails. Especially the more realistic ending for our doomed lovers. Appreciating that ending more than the usual blockbuster Defying ALL Odds and surviving storyline.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:20 PM
Since I had four reviews to write up I did go for a much shorter writeup for each of them.
Quite the wild and diverse Hall of Fame. BRAVO everyone!!!
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:20 PM
Since I had four reviews to write up I did go for a much shorter writeup for each of them.
Quite the wild and diverse Hall of Fame. BRAVO everyone!!!
Did you movie binge tonight, Ed?
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:20 PM
What day and time will the results be revealed?
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:22 PM
Did you movie binge tonight, Ed?
Only for the last two. Saw my nom last night and Blue the night before after writing up Cuties.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:22 PM
What day and time will the results be revealed?
I could do it right now, as I just finished calculating the results, but it won't be fancy with no time to prep. Do you guys want it now or later?
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:24 PM
Only for the last two. Saw my nom last night and Blue the night before after writing up Cuties.
I just finished the last episode of Obi-wan. I really liked the series and the surprise ending.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:24 PM
Either way works for me
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:24 PM
I could do it right now, as I just finished calculating the results, but it won't be fancy with no time to prep. Do you guys want it now or later?
CR it's up to you.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:25 PM
I just finished the last episode of Obi-wan. I really liked the series and the surprise ending.
we'll be watching that tomorrow night most likely
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:28 PM
we'll be watching that tomorrow night most likely
In one of the previous episodes, there is an Easter egg I missed. Not sure when I will revisit.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:28 PM
Starting now! and on the fly, mistakes incoming, ha (well not in the points) more like in formating
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:31 PM
In one of the previous episodes, there is an Easter egg I missed. Not sure when I will revisit.
I wonder if I caught it or not. . .
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:32 PM
Starting now! and on the fly, mistakes incoming, ha (well not in the points) more like in formating
Let 'er rip!! lol
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:33 PM
I'm hoping for my nom to finish in at least 6th place.
ueno_station54
06-22-22, 10:35 PM
i will gladly accept my regular spot of second to last.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:35 PM
First I 'ave an award fer the most friendly pirate on d ship... the Congeniality Award goes t' Allaby-The Naughty Navigator..he's none too blood thirsty but his hugs be deadly🙂
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:36 PM
Allaby was #1 on my ballot. Nothing beats him.
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:36 PM
Congrats Allaby...
I enjoy our chats. You're a great guy!
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:38 PM
Come in at last, but not least, is:
8th Place
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.QKtoe3weKSWmraIgLs5IcQHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1
The Pained Bird
Points 21
Peg-legged Peg
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:38 PM
SpelingError you're great too!. You fun to chat with as well and always helpful.
I don't have to say this to Citizen Rules or edarsenal, we have been friends for years!
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:38 PM
The Painted Bird was last on my ballot, though my reasons for disliking it were different than some of you.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:39 PM
Geez if I had more time I'd give you all some pirate awards...
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:39 PM
SpelingError you're great too!. You fun to chat with as well and always helpful.
I don't have to say this to Citizen Rules or edarsenal, we have been friends for years!
Aw, thanks. You seem really friendly, too.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:40 PM
7th Place
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=87241
Blue Spring
Points 28
The Obra Dinn
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:40 PM
Blue Spring was #3 on my ballot. I enjoyed it quite a bit.
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:40 PM
I predict my nomination will come next.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:40 PM
Did Ueno predict that?
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:40 PM
Thanks Sweety!!
Right back at ya!!
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:41 PM
I predict my nomination will come next.tis tis!
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:41 PM
Aw, thanks. You seem really friendly, too.
Too bad you weren't around when we had real fun and controversial.
The quote I posted to edarsenal a few pages back was from Citizen Rules when I had left for a while but was still joked about.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:42 PM
6th Place
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=87204
My Favorite Year
Points 32
Geoffrey Thorpe
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:42 PM
I had Blue Spring at #3 as well.
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:42 PM
My Favorite Year was #7 on my ballot. It didn't do a whole lot for me.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:43 PM
And Favorite Year was #2. An old favorite of mine that was great to revisit
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:43 PM
5th Place
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/group_images/medium/cuties-movie.jpg
Cuties
Points 36
The Naughty Navigator
ueno_station54
06-22-22, 10:43 PM
Did Ueno predict that?
its just my spot <3
gonna be ambitious and shoot for dead last next time
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:44 PM
Cuties was #6 on my ballot. It was alright.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:44 PM
4th Place
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=86996
Rams
Points 39
Bird-Eyed Bill The Feared
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:45 PM
Cuties was #5 was a pleasant surprise for me.
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:45 PM
SpelingError I will have to send you the page link of the pickup lines that Minio wrote for me only.
F**king hilarious. You will learn things about me due to them.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:45 PM
its just my spot <3
gonna be ambitious and shoot for dead last next time:p
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:45 PM
3 more to go, got any predictions?
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:45 PM
Rams was #4 on my ballot. It was really good.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:45 PM
and Rams was a very reluctant #6 for me. Solid film
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:46 PM
3 more to go, got any predictions?
1. Young Man With a Horn
2. Miracle Mile
3. The Travelling Players
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:46 PM
3rd Place
https://www.framerated.co.uk/frwpcontent/uploads/2017/10/miraclemile01.jpg
Miracle Mile
Points 40
Captain Flynn
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:46 PM
Horn
Traveling
Miracle
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:47 PM
Miracle Mile was #5 on my ballot. Pretty good.
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:47 PM
another reluctant but only spot left, at #7 for Miracle
definitely needs a rewatch
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:47 PM
Well it's either Travelling Players or YMWAH
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:48 PM
Travelling Players FTW
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:48 PM
that would be one I wouldn't mind losing to
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:49 PM
that would be one I wouldn't mind losing to
Same with yours tbh as your nom was #2 on my ballot.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:50 PM
2nd Place
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=87290
The Traveling Players
Points 42
Rottooth Jones
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 10:50 PM
The winner of the 28th HoF is...
1st Place
https://cinema.indiana.edu/film_images/young-man-with-a-horn.jpg
Young Man With a Horn
Points 50
Bo'sun Lumpy Poopdeck
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:50 PM
Same with yours tbh as your nom was #2 on my ballot.
had you at #4 and felt it was too low but unfortunately unable to place it higher
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:50 PM
My nomination did much better than I expected. It was #1 on my ballot and is #11 on my favorites list.
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:51 PM
Young Man With a Horn was #2 on my ballot. Really good film. Congrats to edarsenal for the win :up:
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:52 PM
Since you said you were nominating something more conventional for this Hall, I decided to be your substitute for this round (or, at least, I think I did).
The only downside is that I wasn't able to successfully do this :(
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:52 PM
Here was my message to CR
I'm going best to worst and you can put them in point order.
The Painted Bird
Rams
Cuties
The Travelling Players
Miracle Mile
A Young Man with a Horn
Blue Spring
My Favorite Year
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:53 PM
My ballot:
1. The Travelling Players
2. Young Man With a Horn
3. Blue Spring
4. Rams
5. Miracle Mile
6. Cuties
7. My Favorite Year
8. The Painted Bird
edarsenal
06-22-22, 10:53 PM
NOICE!!
haven't won one of these since around #17.
THANKS, EVERYONE, and THANKS CR for your usual Style and Pizzazz!!
Here's my list
1. Young Man With a Horn
2. My Favorite Year
3. Blue Spring
4. The Travelling Players
5. Cuties
6. Rams
7. Miracle Mile
8. The Painted Bird
SpelingError
06-22-22, 10:55 PM
Also, thanks Citizen Rules for hosting :up:
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:55 PM
Don't worry edarsenal SpelingError and Citizen Rules. I talked with another member here about the three films I want to nominate from for the 29th. My #1 film. They said they found it very funny. Of course, it's in their native language. I personally find it funny as well.
MovieGal
06-22-22, 10:56 PM
Also, thanks Citizen Rules for hosting :up:
Thanks CR sorry about the drama.
ueno_station54
06-22-22, 10:56 PM
i think mine was:
1. Young Man with a Horn
2. Blue Spring
3. Miracle Mile
4. The Travelling Players
5. My Favourite Year
6. Rams
7. Cuties
8. The Painted Bird
no real highlights for me this time around sadly, even my own pick was a let down lol. thanks y'all this was still a cute time <3
1. My Favorite Year
2. The Traveling Players
3. Young Man with a Horn
4. Miracle Mile
5. Cuties
6. Rams
7. The Painted Bird
8. Blue Spring
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:18 PM
When it comes to HOFs, probably about 95% will be foreign language. Only certain themed ones will have English speaking films.
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 11:23 PM
Congrats to Ed for 1st!
and to SpelingError for 2nd
I had really thought The Travelling Players was going to win. I thought Young Man With a Horn had a good chance too. But I never thought my nom would do more than middle of the pack but at least some liked it.
Here's my ballot and it's 'backwards', it shows the points for each movie not it's placement.
Young Man with a Horn 8
Miracle Mile 7
Rams 6
My Favorite Year 5
Cuties 4
The Traveling Players 3
Blue Spring 2
The Painted Bird 1
Citizen Rules
06-22-22, 11:25 PM
When it comes to HOFs, probably about 95% will be foreign language. Only certain themed ones will have English speaking films.I think my nom for the 29th will be a foreign language one, I think you might like it....you probably already seen it.
SpelingError
06-22-22, 11:27 PM
I'll probably nominate a foreign language film, too. I have a few in mind.
ueno_station54
06-22-22, 11:28 PM
i've got mine picked i think. going with a blockbuster and i'll be absolutely crucified for it <3
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:28 PM
I think my nom for the 29th will be a foreign language one, I think you might like it....you probably already seen it.
Don't nominate the one I want to!
Lol I have many to pick from. There is one I an dying to nominate but can always think of better ones. It nothing special , just one I enjoy and want to revisit.
SpelingError
06-22-22, 11:30 PM
Don't nominate the one I want to!
Lol I have many to pick from. There is one I an dying to nominate but can always think of better ones. It nothing special , just one I enjoy and want to revisit.
steals MovieGal's nomination
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:32 PM
i've got mine picked i think. going with a blockbuster and i'll be absolutely crucified for it <3
Lol just as long as it's short. Se killed me with his.
I watched 2 hrs and 8 minutes, then napped and finished it after the nap.
I do have questions about a nominate. If it takes place in the 50s, then why in the heck did he ask her to move in with him? That wasn't kosher in the 50s!
Also, those films they showed if his work, weren't they real films of that actor's real films from the actor's real filmography?
SpelingError
06-22-22, 11:32 PM
As an aside, if you guys enjoyed The Travelling Players, I highly recommend Landscape in the Mist. It's much shorter and would make for an easier watch in terms of pacing.
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:32 PM
steals MovieGal's nomination
You don't know!
SpelingError
06-22-22, 11:34 PM
I watched 2 hrs and 8 minutes, then napped and finished it after the nap.
Funnily enough, I thought about nominating a movie which is even longer than The Travelling Players for the next main Hall (it runs a couple minutes shy of four hours), but I figured I'd ease up on y'all and go with something under 90 minutes next.
ueno_station54
06-22-22, 11:35 PM
Lol just as long as it's short. Se killed me with his.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/485/098/245.gif
SpelingError
06-22-22, 11:35 PM
You don't know!
Actually, I know how to read minds.
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:36 PM
Funnily enough, I thought about nominating a movie which is even longer than The Travelling Players for the next main Hall (it runs a couple minutes shy of four hours), but I figured I'd ease up on y'all and go with something under 90 minutes next.
Screw you, I will nominate the full version of John Woo's Red Cliff, it's close to 5 hours!
SpelingError
06-22-22, 11:36 PM
Screw you, I will nominate the full version of John Woo's Red Cliff, it's close to 5 hours!
I'd actually be cool with watching that one. I heard it's great.
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:38 PM
I'd actually be cool with watching that one. I heard it's great.
F**king love it and Takeshi Kaneshiro ❤️. Especially in that one!
MovieGal
06-22-22, 11:42 PM
Not fond of Asian men except him and Hiroyuki Sanada, who's in The Last Samurai and plays Scorpion in Mortal Kombat.
87667
This was fun everyone! Thanks to CR for hosting.
I haven't decided yet what I will nominate for the 29th hall. I'm going back and forth between a few different options.
PHOENIX74
06-23-22, 02:21 AM
Great Hall of Fame everyone - I couldn't have got The Travelling Players over the line, even if I'd gone strategic, but Young Man With a Horn is a worthy and interesting addition to the wall!
1 - The Travelling Players
2 - Rams
3 - Miracle Mile
4 - Cuties
5 - The Painted Bird
6 - Young Man With a Horn
7 - Blue Spring
8 - My Favorite Year
Thanks much to Citizen Rules for hosting! It's on to the next!
Citizen Rules
06-23-22, 01:50 PM
Allaby edarsenal MovieGal PHOENIX74 SpelingError Siddon ueno_station54
My final duty as host of the 28th HoF is to say a great big thank you to everyone for joining...OR in pirate speak:p
Thanks t' all the pirate crew o' the 28th,
I be happy as a clam t' have sailed the HoF seas wit ye all!
One more movie has been added to MoFo's Hall of Fame Archives!
https://i.imgur.com/6u85cdA.png
edarsenal
06-23-22, 07:06 PM
SpelingError I will have to send you the page link of the pickup lines that Minio wrote for me only.
F**king hilarious. You will learn things about me due to them.
Thank You Darlin for sending one to me. I ****in LOOOVED that!!!
I am SOOO making this my new Signature Quote:
What I actually said to win her heart:
- I might not be a real King of Kinkiness, but I make good pancakes
Though, if it's cool with you, I feel it proper to place MovieGal in place of "her". Ya know?
MovieGal
06-23-22, 07:09 PM
Thank You Darlin for sending one to me. I ****in LOOOVED that!!!
I am SOOO making this my new Signature Quote:
What I actually said to win her heart:
- I might not be a real King of Kinkiness, but I make good pancakes
Though, if it's cool with you, I feel it proper to place MovieGal in place of "her". Ya know?
I refer to him as my Mr. Pancake. ❤️
MovieGal
06-23-22, 07:11 PM
Thank You Darlin for sending one to me. I ****in LOOOVED that!!!
I am SOOO making this my new Signature Quote:
What I actually said to win her heart:
- I might not be a real King of Kinkiness, but I make good pancakes
Though, if it's cool with you, I feel it proper to place MovieGal in place of "her". Ya know?
I'm ok with your signature idea.
I do miss Minio and actually emailed him the other day.
Damn phone auto correct!
MovieGal
06-23-22, 07:15 PM
Dammit Ed! Join the 29th!
edarsenal
06-23-22, 07:24 PM
i think mine was:
1. Young Man with a Horn
2. Blue Spring
3. Miracle Mile
4. The Travelling Players
5. My Favourite Year
6. Rams
7. Cuties
8. The Painted Bird
no real highlights for me this time around sadly, even my own pick was a let down lol. thanks y'all this was still a cute time <3
Not for me, had Blue Spring at #3. And I do believe that makes a Triple Shot of your movies I've genuinely enjoyed. The first two are Mad Love, Symbol (laughed A LOT with that one. Excellent Personal Rec.)
So, like, at #1, that makes me . . .? Least sad? Right? :cool: :)
Noice
ueno_station54
06-23-22, 07:42 PM
Not for me, had Blue Spring at #3. And I do believe that makes a Triple Shot of your movies I've genuinely enjoyed. The first two are Mad Love, Symbol (laughed A LOT with that one. Excellent Personal Rec.)
can't wait to end the streak <3
MovieGal
06-23-22, 07:51 PM
ueno_station54
You better like my next nomination or I will change back to the extreme going forward! Lol
ueno_station54
06-23-22, 07:57 PM
@ueno_station54 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=111569)
You better like my next nomination or I will change back to the extreme going forward! Lol
girl i never had an issue with the content in the painted bird nominate whatever crazy stuff you want lmao.
MovieGal
06-23-22, 07:58 PM
girl i never had an issue with the content in the painted bird nominate whatever crazy stuff you want lmao.
Lol it's a bit toward the other end of the spectrum.
Great actors and funny.
edarsenal
06-23-22, 07:58 PM
Screw you, I will nominate the full version of John Woo's Red Cliff, it's close to 5 hours!
I'd actually be cool with watching that one. I heard it's great.
Me too. Though please wait, I might bow out for this next HoF. Been neglecting my Jab's Movie Challenge and need to play some catch-up. I'll pop in of course.
MovieGal
06-23-22, 08:00 PM
Me too. Though please wait, I might bow out for this next HoF. Been neglecting my Jab's Movie Challenge and need to play some catch-up. I'll pop in of course.
Even though Red Cliff is a fantastic film, I won't nominate it. It's toooo long .
edarsenal
06-23-22, 08:24 PM
My final duty as host of the 28th HoF is to say a great big thank you to everyone for joining...OR in pirate speak:p
Thanks t' all the pirate crew o' the 28th,
I be happy as a clam t' have sailed the HoF seas wit ye all!
It be a seafarer's honour ta be aboard any ship ya be Ca'bin of. Keel haul me, send dis Bo'sun ta Davey's Locker, if'n I be a-fibbin.
https://c.tenor.com/Y91wZm2EfaQAAAAC/pirate-cat.gif
https://c.tenor.com/nPQf8Jc3lxAAAAAC/rum-jack-sparrow.gif
edarsenal
06-23-22, 08:25 PM
I refer to him as my Mr. Pancake. ❤️
awwwww
edarsenal
06-23-22, 08:34 PM
can't wait to end the streak <3
I like you, you're evil. ;)
MovieGal
06-23-22, 08:45 PM
It be a seafarer's honour ta be aboard any ship ya be Ca'bin of. Keel haul me, send dis Bo'sun ta Davey's Locker, if'n I be a-fibbin.
https://c.tenor.com/Y91wZm2EfaQAAAAC/pirate-cat.gif
https://c.tenor.com/nPQf8Jc3lxAAAAAC/rum-jack-sparrow.gif
Thumbs up for signature lol
MovieGal
06-23-22, 08:46 PM
awwwww
You do know he's my daughter's age.
Wyldesyde19
06-23-22, 09:06 PM
You don't know!
*Steals MG’s Nomination*
edarsenal
06-24-22, 02:08 PM
You do know he's my daughter's age.
Its still a sweet sentiment and worthy of an awwwww
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