WandaVision

[WrinkledMind]

https://youtu.be/sj9J2ecsSpo
Just watched the first episode. Gives very little away of the main plot ( there were few clues), but beyond that it seemed like an old sitcom. And the humour, though silly at times, was still well done. I found myself giggling and being nostalgic about the old series which I watched as a kid on the telly.

[jiraffejustin]

I'm getting strong Legion vibes from the first two episodes. I'll be keeping up with it.

[WrinkledMind]

I'm getting strong Legion vibes from the first two episodes. I'll be keeping up with it.


Yep. But not as crazy and wild as Legion. I think this a far safer version. But still a good effort from Marvel.

[xSookieStackhouse]

i saw it other night, i loved it, hope they will make a movie together after the series

[Torgo]

I like it a lot so far too. Paul Bettany should do more comedy because he's pretty darn funny.

[WrinkledMind]

So it's going to be a simple concept. Still well made so far.
Nice to see Kat Dennings in it.

[Allaby]

I'm really enjoying it so far.

[Austruck]

I didn't realize it was only six episodes so far... till I got to the end of episode six and ... poof! :D

I'm not big into the Marvel universe (trying to catch up to the rest of the world), but I thoroughly enjoyed this. I'm just old enough to have understood each of the decade sitcom references in the episodes, so I enjoyed this purely from that perspective as well.

[GulfportDoc]

I watched the first episode, and while the '50s family show parody was enjoyable, I couldn't imagine where it's going. Does the superhero aspect come into it more?

[mark f]

Obviously.

[MovieMeditation]

I really dig it tbh. A very fun, different and creative show.

[seanc]

I didn't realize it was only six episodes so far... till I got to the end of episode six and ... poof! :D

I'm not big into the Marvel universe (trying to catch up to the rest of the world), but I thoroughly enjoyed this. I'm just old enough to have understood each of the decade sitcom references in the episodes, so I enjoyed this purely from that perspective as well.

Interesting. I was watching the sixth episode today and thinking I can't imagine this being anyone's introduction to the MCU. There are so many references to catch now. Good to know the character work is good enough to draw people in.

I'm enjoying this. Definitely has gotten me more into the character of Wanda, who I found to be a but of a wet noodle up to know. Adding the high concept to the simple story arc that is unwinding has made it super watchable.

What's up with the 7 minute credits though?

[Austruck]

Interesting. I was watching the sixth episode today and thinking I can't imagine this being anyone's introduction to the MCU. There are so many references to catch now. Good to know the character work is good enough to draw people in.

I'm enjoying this. Definitely has gotten me more into the character of Wanda, who I found to be a but of a wet noodle up to know. Adding the high concept to the simple story arc that is unwinding has made it super watchable.

What's up with the 7 minute credits though?

I thought I was the only one noticing the long credits. I watched them all the way through for the first episode or two, just in case. :)

So far I'm following things just fine, without much knowledge of the Marvel world up front. (I've seen two of the Iron Man movies and The Avengers. That's about it, but I have a list of the movies I still need to see, in order, and keep meaning to get to them.)

[Yoda]

My best guess on the credits, having actually watched parts of them because I was curious about the length, is that they spent a lot of time on international dubbing and stuff, since they seem to go on for awhile with nothing but lists of people who helped localize the show. Makes sense, given the cost and Marvel's general aim/reach for these properties.

[Yoda]

I'm getting strong Legion vibes from the first two episodes. I'll be keeping up with it.
Yep, came here to say this.

I've watched all but the last one. It's so funny to me watching people angry about the first few episodes not being what they expected. Let the thing stand as a whole for crying out loud, then you can hate it.

[ynwtf]

Yep, came here to say this.

I've watched all but the last one. It's so funny to me watching people angry about the first few episodes not being what they expected. Let the thing stand as a whole for crying out loud, then you can hate it.




BREAKING: Yoda says WandaVision is worth "hate" after watching entire season!


:D


(don't ban me, I'm bored and not yet sure what to do with my day and this is all I got, pre-coffee)

[WrinkledMind]

Who would have guessed Malcolm in the Middle? I was happy when her son started the show by speaking to us.


Also, the Hydra ad was the best one so far.

[Doolallyfrank]

What's up with the 7 minute credits though?


And no post-credits scene

[Austruck]

And no post-credits scene

That's precisely WHY I watched all the way through the credits for the first few episodes. If there was an added scene in any of the last four episodes so far, I'd appreciate someone mentioning it so I can go back and watch them all the way through. :D

[Doolallyfrank]

That's precisely WHY I watched all the way through the credits for the first few episodes. If there was an added scene in any of the last four episodes so far, I'd appreciate someone mentioning it so I can go back and watch them all the way through. :D


There isn't lol

[Captain Steel]

Back in the 80's I bought most mini-series that spun off of any maxi-series I followed... and since I followed the Avengers I bought the Vision & Scarlet Witch mini-series (both of them). The first series was 4 issues (1982) and the second series was 12 issues (1985).

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/70/5c9b8c175007d/clean.jpg

I have to say I didn't care for either of these series.
I liked the characters within the Avengers, but didn't really like them on their own (that may have also had a lot to do with the writing, story lines and art work too).

This has nothing to do with the TV series... but it's nice to reminisce about the origins of things.

[Yoda]

It's weird, I'm simultaneously not that interested in the WandaVision television homage stuff, but also really glad they did it/are able to take weird chances like that in something this highly budgeted and visible.

[Siddon]

Back in the 80's I bought most mini-series that spun off of any maxi-series I followed... and since I followed the Avengers I bought the Vision & Scarlet Witch mini-series (both of them). The first series was 4 issues (1982) and the second series was 12 issues (1985).

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/70/5c9b8c175007d/clean.jpg

I have to say I didn't care for either of these series.
I liked the characters within the Avengers, but didn't really like them on their own (that may have also had a lot to do with the writing, story lines and art work too).

This has nothing to do with the TV series... but it's nice to reminisce about the origins of things.


https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/90/5637acf4a3719/standard_incredible.jpg



I think WandaVision is more inspired by the Vision series that came out a few years ago.

[Captain Steel]

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/6/90/5637acf4a3719/standard_incredible.jpg



I think WandaVision is more inspired by the Vision series that came out a few years ago.

Yeah, the Vision himself had a least one mini-series dedicated to him that I remember. (He even had a secret identity of "Victor Shade" - wonder if that will be brought up for the TV series? I haven't seen it yet.)

The show is obviously not inspired by the original versions of the characters (except in the loosest way), but by the film versions - which deviate a good deal from their comic book counterparts.

And I haven't read any modern comics lately, but usually, after movies are released, the comics tend to follow suit with even more deviations.

[Doolallyfrank]

Episode 7, mid credits scene

[Yoda]

Ew, really? They leave seven minutes of credits, put nothing in them, and then suddenly do?

[Austruck]

At least he told us which episode they're in. :D But yeah, that's weird. Kinda extra-Easter-eggy. :)

[WrinkledMind]

Elisabeth Olsen presented a decent version of Claire Dunphy.

[Doolallyfrank]

Episode 8 mid-credits scene

[Doolallyfrank]

Episode 9 finale, mid AND post credits scenes

[ynwtf]

Ew, really? They leave seven minutes of credits, put nothing in them, and then suddenly do?

Obviously if you add up the 7:04 runtime of each end-credit sequence for the number of shows to the season and then DIVIDE by the number of shows per season, you get the number that was Wanda, when added to the Avengers team. If you do the same, but also subtract those time stamps that actually DID include credit scenes, then that number would be lower and align withVision's enlistment # to the team. ...obviously. If you then take those two numbers and add them together, you get the number of characters used to spell "Wandavision" which, funny enough, is the same number of leading cast members within the Wanda bubble.

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[Sedai]

Dang, I caught the mid-credit scene after the finale, but not the post... Will have to check it out later.

Love the show, btw...

[Yoda]

Yeah, two for the last one.

I liked a lot of this, but man...they really did not confront the character with her misdeeds they way they should have. The fact that she was grieving was used to wallpaper over some really heinous acts there at the end. They had a chance to say some really meaningful and nuanced things about not just grief (which was the focus), but the way in which grief makes people hurt others.

[Sedai]

Yeah, two for the last one.

I liked a lot of this, but man...they really did not confront the character with her misdeeds they way they should have. The fact that she was grieving was used to wallpaper over some really heinous acts there at the end. They had a chance to say some really meaningful and nuanced things about not just grief (which was the focus), but the way in which grief makes people hurt others.

Fair. Even though she is a favorite of mine in the MCU, I don't really know a ton about the character, but I get the idea they are sliding her into villain mode again. I mean, she is already there in many ways, clearly, which is I guess what you are referring to.

I dunno though, aside from Widow's "red in my ledger" speech, did they address her misdeeds any better? Or with her is it, "I defected, so everything is OK now?"

[Yoda]

I had the opposite impression, I thought we were meant to really like her by the end, and to kind of forgive her for all she did because, hey, she was grieving! Maybe I misread that, though.

Widow's "red in my ledger" is good and clear, and I think the nuance of being a government operative is also more easily understood, since it's kind of a cliche. There's no real precedent for "kidnap and mentally torture an entire town of people" though. The scale of her offense, even out of grief, is pretty huge, to my mind.

[ynwtf]

I haven't finished the series so take my reply with a grain of salt! I think the comparison to Black Widow might also be unfair in that her background was referenced in an ensemble setting, and in passing I think in the context of where Widow was at that point in her unseen story, we can assume she has made amends or found some kind of peace with what she had done before we meet her as a character. I think it's safe to assume that she's probably already had to face and deal with those consequences. Still an assumption, I admit.

These issues with Scarlet Witch are happening in a dedicated story arc devoted to her, more or less. Black Widow's past didn't play out in front of us at all, where as this, the events around Scarlet Witch's break, are happening in real time before the audience. The writers opened that door. Seems fair to call it out or to at least question it.

I haven't seen the consequences or ramifications of her actions yet. Still only maybe halfway through. I would hope her guilt/grief is at least half as much as it is for Vision's loss. I mean she's jacking up a lot of people's grasp on reality I would guess! Trauma trauma trauma!

(don't hate me, switchblade guy)

[ynwtf]

Huh. I get obsessive over some MCU series I may never finish, yet can't be bothered to write a proper review for 98% of the actual movies I watch. Go figure.

[John McClane]

I haven't watched a single minute of WandaVision and probably won't. What am I missing? Someone catch me up in 6 words or less.

"Maybe the dingo ate your baby"

[Yoda]

I haven't watched a single minute of WandaVision and probably won't. What am I missing? Someone catch me up in 6 words or less.
Takes chances, loves classic TV, quotable.

[Captain Steel]

I haven't watched a single minute of WandaVision and probably won't. What am I missing? Someone catch me up in 6 words or less.

"Maybe the dingo ate your baby"

I haven't seen it either (and also probably won't)...
But here's all you need to know (in 6 words)...

Comic book movie characters go TV.

[ynwtf]

Wanda and Vision are living happily ever after in a television sitcom. Or are they?

[Thursday Next]

I think I liked it more when it was pretending to be a sitcom than when it went full MCU.

[John McClane]

If there ain't no Frosted Flakes I'm out.

[Sedai]

I haven't watched a single minute of WandaVision and probably won't. What am I missing? Someone catch me up in 6 words or less.

"Maybe the dingo ate your baby"

David Lynch in a Mickey Suit.

[jiraffejustin]

I think I liked it more when it was pretending to be a sitcom than when it went full MCU.

100% my feelings on it. I still have the final episode to go, motivation to carry on is low tho

[xSookieStackhouse]

I haven't watched a single minute of WandaVision and probably won't. What am I missing? Someone catch me up in 6 words or less.

"Maybe the dingo ate your baby"

well to me its amazing show and i loved it so much im glad they cast elizabeth olsen and paul bettany again noone cant replace them as scarlet witch and the vision and im appy that they cast kathryn hahn as agatha harkness as a villian, loved her on crossing jordan also im glad they made it in a tv mini series, i hope they will make season 2. i still have my scarlet witch and the vision comics

[Sedai]

I had the opposite impression, I thought we were meant to really like her by the end, and to kind of forgive her for all she did because, hey, she was grieving! Maybe I misread that, though.

Widow's "red in my ledger" is good and clear, and I think the nuance of being a government operative is also more easily understood, since it's kind of a cliche. There's no real precedent for "kidnap and mentally torture an entire town of people" though. The scale of her offense, even out of grief, is pretty huge, to my mind.

I think we can be meant to like her at the end of this particular situation, but can still also see the character on a trajectory to become a major villain in a later film/show.

The post-credit scene, which I did get around to watching last night, features Wanda pulling a Dr. Strange, studying in her astral form, reading the Darkhold, which from what I understand, is sort of a book of evil magic in the MCU. See: Agents of Shield

[xSookieStackhouse]

I think we can be meant to like her at the end of this particular situation, but can still also see the character on a trajectory to become a major villain in a later film/show.

The post-credit scene, which I did get around to watching last night, features Wanda pulling a Dr. Strange, studying in her astral form, reading the Darkhold, which from what I understand, is sort of a book of evil magic in the MCU. See: Agents of Shield

she will be on Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness that is relese 2022 :) im really excited for it :).
Monica Rambeau will be on captain marvel 2 that release in 2022

[Sedai]

she will be on Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness that is relese 2022 :) im really excited for it :).
Monica Rambeau will be on captain marvel 2 that release in 2022

Right. Although Mordo is also a confirmed villain in that film, I presume Witch will be a villain for at least a portion of the film and perhaps beyond.

[xSookieStackhouse]

Right. Although Mordo is also a confirmed villain in that film, I presume Witch will be a villain for at least a portion of the film and perhaps beyond.

yes his on it, heres the link of it https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419884/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

maybe

[jiraffejustin]

David Lynch in a Mickey Suit.

God. That sounds way better than what we got. :(

[Sedai]

I guess time will tell. If she is on a trajectory to become even more of a villain, and this was just the tip of the iceberg as far horrible **** she will do, I think it's a ballsy move by Marvel, especially if she ends up either responsible for or complicit in the death(s) of major characters moving forward.

However, if the entire point of this was to set up a bunch of episodes meant to explore grief and loss, only to tack on a clumsy footnote about sacrifice, while pretty much ignoring her misdeeds, it will just be a bold and quirky single season with a weak ending.

I think it's the former, or maybe I just hope it is.