21st Hall of Fame

[ahwell]

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Welcome to the 21st Hall of Fame! I'm really excited to host my first general HoF!

Movie Nominations: Any movie under 240 minutes can be nominated, except for previous HoF winners.

PM me your nominations and include: film title & year of release. Keep your nomination a secret until the reveal of the films.

Open Door Policy: For one week after the reveal of the movie nominations, I will be taking new members.

Length of HoF: There will be approximately one week of viewing time per movie, so if there are 10 movie nominations the HoF will be about 10 weeks long. The deadline to finish will be posted after the HoF starts.

During the HoF: Everyone watches the nominated movies and will discuss them in this thread. You need to write at least a few sentences about your thoughts on each movie, after you watch it. Part of the process is discussion of the movies as a group.

Note: If you've seen a movie recently or have seen it many times you can skip watching it, otherwise you have to watch all nominated movies.

Requesting help to locate movies: If you have trouble locating a movie make a post and ask for help. When responding with a movie link send it by private message, don't post links or embed films in this thread.

Dropouts: Members who don't finish will be disqualified and their movie nomination removed from the HoF. Please make sure you have the time to complete this, it helps to start watching the films right away so you don't have a bunch of movies to watch at the end.If for any reason you do need to drop out, absolutely let me know you can't finish.

New HoF Members: New HoF members will need to post their movie write ups on a regular basis. 1 write up in the first 2 weeks, and 3 in the first month and so on. That way we know your keeping up. If you're going to be absent from watching movies for a period PM me and let me know, otherwise I might think you've dropped out.

Current Participants:
ahwell - nomination received
Citizen Rules - nomination received
Siddon - nomination received
Wyldesyde19 - nomination received
edarsenal - nomination received
rauldc14 - nomination received
Miss Vicky - nomination received
The Usual Suspect - nomination received
neiba - nomination received
pahaK - nomination received

Deadline is Wednesday, March 11, 2020

Wyldesyde19 - 10/10 COMPLETED
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056055#post2056055)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058085#post2058085)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060226#post2060226)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2064168#post2064168)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2066010#post2066010)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2066045#post2066045)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2067904#post2067904)
Being There
The Breakfast Club
Pretty Baby

ahwell - 10/10 COMPLETED
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056201#post2056201)
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056202#post2056202)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056435#post2056435)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057226#post2057226)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057225#post2057225)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057595#post2057595)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058433#post2058433)
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2059449#post2059449)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061525#post2061525)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2062973#post2062973)

pahaK- 10/10
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056235#post2056235)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057628#post2057628)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058581#post2058581)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058880#post2058880)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061002#post2061002)
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2063364#post2063364)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2066254#post2066254)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2067308#post2067308)
The Hunt
The Tree of Life

neiba - 10/10 COMPLETED
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056339#post2056339)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056341#post2056341)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056342#post2056342)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056500#post2056500)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056512#post2056512)
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056674#post2056674)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057000#post2057000)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057040#post2057040)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061528#post2061528)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2064209#post2064209)

Miss Vicky - 10/10 COMPLETED
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056385#post2056385)
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056464#post2056464)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056648#post2056648)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056764#post2056764)
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058438#post2058438)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061814#post2061814)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061559#post2061559)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2062595#post2062595)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2063405#post2063405)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2063907#post2063907)

Citizen Rules - 10/10 COMPLETED
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056639#post2056639)
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056722#post2056722)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057437#post2057437)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057762#post2057762)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058479#post2058479)
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2058820#post2058820)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2059781#post2059781)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060402#post2060402)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060879#post2060879)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2062762#post2062762)

rauldc14 - 10/10 COMPLETED
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2056975#post2056975)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2059865#post2059865)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060798#post2060798)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061121#post2061121)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2062921#post2062921)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2063187#post2063187)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2065014#post2065014)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2068112#post2068112)
Wedding Crashers

Siddon - 10/10 COMPLETED
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057035#post2057035)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2059903#post2059903)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2059955#post2059955)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060006#post2060006)
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060412#post2060412)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060423#post2060423)
Pretty Baby (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060618#post2060618)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2060626#post2060626)
Being There (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2061280#post2061280)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2067899#post2067899)

The Usual Suspect - 10/10 COMPLETED
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057088#post2057088)
The Tree of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057089#post2057089)
Wedding Crashers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057090#post2057090)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057447#post2057447)
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2057450#post2057450)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2065200#post2065200)
Pride (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2065202#post2065202)
Pretty Baby
Being There

edarsenal- 10/10 COMPLETED
Quills (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2059395#post2059395)
Moonstruck (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2065179#post2065179)
The Breakfast Club (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2066164#post2066164)
Dark City (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2065171#post2065171)
The Hunt
The Tree of Life
Being There
Wedding Crashers
Pretty Baby
Pride

[ahwell]

Nominations

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Pretty Baby (1978)
Nominated by: pahaK

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Being There (1979)
Nominated by: Siddon

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The Breakfast Club (1985)
Nominated by: Citizen Rules

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Moonstruck (1987)
Nominated by: edarsenal

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Dark City (1998)
Nominated by: wyldesyde19

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Quills (2000)
Nominated by: Miss Vicky

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Wedding Crashers (2005)
Nominated by: rauldc14

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The Tree of Life (2011)
Nominated by: ahwell

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The Hunt (Jagten) (2012)
Nominated by: neiba

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Pride (2014)
Nominated by: The Usual Suspect

[Citizen Rules]

Looking forward to this! and I really hope everyone likes my nom this time around:p

[Wyldesyde19]

I’m in, but give me a day to go over my collection to choose a worthy nominee 🙂

[Wyldesyde19]

Ok, I’ve narrowed it down to about 3 or 4. Will make my pick probably later in the day.
Go ahead and announce the nominations if I’ve taken too long in the meantime. I don’t want to hold it up

[Siddon]

Oh we're not even close to announcement's we've got four noms...


Anyways I changed my mind...my new nominee is celebrated it's 30th Anniversary this year and was an Oscar winner and favorite film of mine from 1979.

[Wyldesyde19]

Oh we're not even close to announcement's we've got four noms...


Anyways I changed my mind...my new nominee is celebrated it's 30th Anniversary this year and was an Oscar winner and favorite film of mine from 1979.

Cool, I just didn’t want to hold it up any, especially since I’ve got a few really good choices and it’s so hard to pick.
Also, if your pick is what I think it is, it may be one of my potential picks as well. In which case, that helps narrow things for me

[Citizen Rules]

I'm sure some of the regular HoF members are off doing the holiday thing, so I bet in a few days when they're back on MoFo we'll get more members joining.

[ahwell]

Yeah, Miss Vicky and rauldc will hopefully join, plus neiba and a couple regulars I’m probably forgetting. Hopefully we can get it up to 10 like the last couple.

[edarsenal]

I'm in -- NO IDEA what to nom, so I'm off to figure that out lol

[ahwell]

I'm in -- NO IDEA what to nom, so I'm off to figure that out lol
Oh yeah forgot about you, even though you’re like one of my favorite members lol.

Looking forward to your nom!

[edarsenal]

Oh yeah forgot about you, even though you’re like one of my favorite members lol.

Looking forward to your nom!
very very kind of you -- thank you!
I do believe I found one and I'm sending it over as we speak-- um, type. lol

[rauldc14]

In. No brainer.

[rauldc14]

How long do I have to pick a nom?

[ahwell]

How long do I have to pick a nom?
Until New Years at least, probably next Friday or Saturday.

[pahaK]

Not sure if I'll join yet but I'm definitely considering.

[ahwell]

Not sure if I'll join yet but I'm definitely considering.
Love to have you!

[rauldc14]

Until New Years at least, probably next Friday or Saturday.

Good I was hoping I had awhile.

[ahwell]

We’re up to 7 members (5 have sent in noms).

neiba KeyserCorleone cricket
Any of you interested?

[Mr Minio]

done goofed it

21st hall of fame should only allow movies from 21st century

[cricket]

We’re up to 7 members (5 have sent in noms).

neiba KeyserCorleone cricket
Any of you interested?

I'm still stuck with the thought that I'd have to watch a bunch of movies I've already seen, but I'm thinking about it.

[ahwell]

I'm still stuck with the thought that I'd have to watch a bunch of movies I've already seen, but I'm thinking about it.

That’s fair enough. You’ve checked off 4 of the 5 current noms so no worries if you’re not up to it. Just thought I would ask.:)

[ahwell]

Just mentioning a couple more people in case they haven’t seen this.
Hey Fredrick @Frightened Inmate No. 2 CosmicRunaway

[TheUsualSuspect]

Sent a nomination in.

[ahwell]

Thanks Suspect!

I’ve legit copied and pasted frightened inmate’s username in and it’s still not mentioning lol. Ah well:o

[Citizen Rules]

I’ve legit copied and pasted frightened inmate’s username in and it’s still not mentioning lol. Ah well:o Welcome to the club! I never could get the @mention thing to work for frightened inmate.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I think the . might be messing things up?

[ahwell]

I think the . might be messing things up?
Yeah it’s probably that

[Miss Vicky]

Just mentioning a couple more people in case they haven’t seen this.
Hey Fredrick @Frightened Inmate No. 2 CosmicRunaway

Frightened Inmate No. 2

[ahwell]

Just mentioning a couple more people in case they haven’t seen this.
Hey Fredrick @Frightened Inmate No. 2 CosmicRunaway

Frightened Inmate No. 2

Wtf (and thanks)

[Citizen Rules]

@Frightened Inmate No. 2 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=75520)How did you do that? It won't work for me when I try.

@Frightened Inmate No.2

[TheUsualSuspect]

Frightened Inmate No. 2

[Citizen Rules]

@Frightened Inmate No. 2 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=75520)Show off!:p But now tell us mere mortals, how?

[TheUsualSuspect]

Show off!:p But now tell us mere mortals, how?

Only worked when I quoted her and copied it. Hahaha.

[Citizen Rules]

Only worked when I quoted her and copied it. Hahaha. Oh hell, I could've done that....I think:eek: Maybe not!

[Miss Vicky]

How did you do that? It won't work for me when I try.

@Frightened Inmate No.2

Magic. :D

The format for the mention feature is (without the spaces): [ MENTION=75520 ]Frightened Inmate No. 2[ /MENTION ]

The number in the first bracket is unique to each member. So if you go to their profile and look at their profile's url, you can see their number. I got his number - which is 75520 - and put it in the bracket.

I'm pretty sure you don't even have to put the user's name at all. Let me test that. Ahwell's number is 101613.

Watch more Joaquin

Did you get a mention, ahwell?

[Citizen Rules]

@TheUsualSuspect (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=9280)

Ha, it worked! ( I did it the way Miss Vicky just posted)

[ahwell]

How did you do that? It won't work for me when I try.

@Frightened Inmate No.2

Magic. :D

The format for the mention feature is (without the spaces): [ MENTION=75520 ]Frightened Inmate No. 2[ /MENTION ]

The number in the first bracket is unique to each member. So if you go to their profile and look at their profile's url, you can see their number. I got his number - which is 75520 - and put it in the bracket.

I'm pretty sure you don't even have to put the user's name at all. Let me test that. Ahwell's number is 101613.

Watch more Joaquin

Did you get a mention, ahwell?

I didn’t get the mention notification, but I see what you mean now.

[CosmicRunaway]

I haven't participated in a General Hall of Fame in what seems like forever, so I probably should join. The problem is that I always take a long time to think of a film, even for speciality HoFs with more limited options. Lately I've only been catching up on the 2019 flicks I missed in theatres, so I haven't watched or rewatched anything I'd nominate.

So I'm thinking about it, but am not overly optimistic haha.

I'm pretty sure you don't even have to put the user's name at all.
You don't need the user's number to use the mention tags. Without numbers you definitely need to spell their name correctly though. I use the @ shortcut for anyone with no spaces in their name, and mention for everyone else.

In the "go advanced" post area, the little speaker icon at the top will put the mention code in for you if you don't want to type it out.

[Miss Vicky]

In the "go advanced" post area, the little speaker icon at the top will put the mention code in for you if you don't want to type it out.

For most MoFos, yes. For whatever reason, it doesn’t work for Inmate. Try it and see.

[Chypmunk]

I think it might be because mentions going into prison need to get vetted by the Governor first. That is purely a guess though so don't quote me on that.

[ahwell]

Hope you join Chypmunk!

[Chypmunk]

Hope you join Chypmunk!
Thanks but I'm just a sidelines watcher in these things :)

[ahwell]

Hope you join Chypmunk!
Thanks but I'm just a sidelines watcher in these things :)

Aw ok...

[ahwell]

We have virtually no old movies, which is interesting. Oldest is 1979, 2 from the 80s, 1 from the 90s, 1 from 00s and last 2 from 10s.

[neiba]

In. Nom on the way. I'm considering going blind nom for a change... but I still have to decide

[neiba]

Oh we're not even close to announcement's we've got four noms...


Anyways I changed my mind...my new nominee is celebrated it's 30th Anniversary this year and was an Oscar winner and favorite film of mine from 1979.

I think I know what that is, and I was about to nominate it! xD

[Wyldesyde19]

We have virtually no old movies, which is interesting. Oldest is 1979, 2 from the 80s, 1 from the 90s, 1 from 00s and last 2 from 10s.
I almost went with “Seven Samurai” but felt it was a too long.
In fact, there were a few of my picks from the 70’s that ultimately passed on.
Don’t worry, they’ll get nominated down the road 😏

[Wyldesyde19]

Oh we're not even close to announcement's we've got four noms...


Anyways I changed my mind...my new nominee is celebrated it's 30th Anniversary this year and was an Oscar winner and favorite film of mine from 1979.

I think I know what that is, and I was about to nominate it! xD
Same, if it’s what I think it is as well, it was one of my choices I narrowed down to, so I figured I’d go with something else instead

[Citizen Rules]

I almost went with “Seven Samurai” but felt it was a too long.
In fact, there were a few of my picks from the 70’s that ultimately passed on.
Don’t worry, they’ll get nominated down the road 😏Seven Samurai would've been a great nom and I've never seen it yet...

I have a text file with 100s of potential HoF noms for me to use, including some from the 70s. I wish I could nominate them all:)

[Wyldesyde19]

I almost went with “Seven Samurai” but felt it was a too long.
In fact, there were a few of my picks from the 70’s that ultimately passed on.
Don’t worry, they’ll get nominated down the road 😏Seven Samurai would've been a great nom and I've never seen it yet...

I have a text file with 100s of potential HoF noms for me to use, including some from the 70s. I wish I could nominate them all:)
I really considered it, but it’s really long and I took that into everyone’s account. Watching a long movie is quite chore, especially if one doesn’t enjoy it
Although I thoroughly enjoy Seven Samurai

[pahaK]

I really considered it, but it’s really long and I took that into everyone’s account. Watching a long movie is quite chore, especially if one doesn’t enjoy it
Although I thoroughly enjoy Seven Samurai

I always try to pick films that aren't too long for that reason. I made an exception with Brimstone but quite a few people hated it so I'll try to keep my noms under two hours. Still trying to decide whether or not to join (maybe I'll rewatch a potential nom later today).

[CosmicRunaway]

For most MoFos, yes. For whatever reason, it doesn’t work for Inmate. Try it and see.
I hope he doesn't mind us pestering him if it does work haha.

Frightened Inmate No. 2

Edit: Indeed it doesn't! Interesting.

[pahaK]

After rewatching my (then potential) nomination I decided to join. Citizen Rules knows what film I went with but for others, I'll just say that it's kind of a back to the roots choice :D

[ahwell]

We’re up to ten! I think I’ll wait till Thursday or sometime soon after New Years, just in case some others decide they want to join.

[Citizen Rules]

After rewatching my (then potential) nomination I decided to join. @Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637) knows what film I went with but for others, I'll just say that it's kind of a back to the roots choice :DMy lips are sealed:p Glad you joined!

[Wyldesyde19]

We’re up to ten! I think I’ll wait till Thursday or sometime soon after New Years, just in case some others decide they want to join.
The suspense is literally eating at me! 😫

[rauldc14]

I'm in no hurry to start. Still have to finish the Japanese HOF

[Wyldesyde19]

I'm in no hurry to start. Still have to finish the Japanese HOF
Same, I’m just curious what the nominees are 🙂

[edarsenal]

I'm in no hurry to start. Still have to finish the Japanese HOF

Same, I’m just curious what the nominees are 🙂

I'm pretty sure I'm the worst of the bunch - I only have 3 reviews completed. :tsk:

[Wyldesyde19]

I'm in no hurry to start. Still have to finish the Japanese HOF

Same, I’m just curious what the nominees are 🙂

I'm pretty sure I'm the worst of the bunch - I only have 3 reviews completed. :tsk:
I’m in the same boat with the western HOF. Only reviews 1 of the 8 but I should be able to start hitting a few more in the next few weeks
Almost done with the comedy HOF

[ahwell]

After rewatching my (then potential) nomination I decided to join. Citizen Rules knows what film I went with but for others, I'll just say that it's kind of a back to the roots choice :D

Haha, actually my nom is also inspired by Citizen Rules, although I'm not sure he knows what it is. We discussed it earlier this year.

[Citizen Rules]

Haha, actually my nom is also inspired by Citizen Rules, although I'm not sure he knows what it is. We discussed it earlier this year.My memory is so short that I don't have a clue to what is. I guess I'll wait and see.

Glad! to hear we've got 10 members so far:)

[ahwell]

Nominations are up on the second post guys!

Deadline is Wednesday, March 11, 2020

Sorry for the huge range of image size:eek:

[rauldc14]

Seen 6/10 and liked most of them. I believe 3 are repeat noms, will be interesting to see how they do.

Really look forward to Tree of Life.

[Wyldesyde19]

Looking forward to this! and I really hope everyone likes my nom this time around:p
I do like your pick! However, I may not like it as much as other films here. 😏
Moonstruck and Quills are pretty stiff competition and Dark City is a personal favorite of mine.

[Wyldesyde19]

I own a few of these and Moonstruck is available on Amazon video last I checked. Will double check later on.
Going to get a head start tonight on this

[Miss Vicky]

I've seen 6 out of 10 of these and have 4 of those 6 on DVD.

Being There - I haven't seen this one and I'm not sure I've ever even heard of it.
The Breakfast Club - Seen it numerous times. It's an all-time favorite.
Dark City - Seen it, own it. Very good movie, but not a favorite.
Jagten - Seen it for a previous HOF, IIRC. Good movie.
Moonstruck - Have seen it multiple times, but not since I was a kid. I vaguely remember liking it.
Pretty Baby - Never seen it.
Pride - Don't think I've even heard of this one.
Quills- My favorite movie. I nominated it in a previous HOF, but I think raul was the only person who participated in that one that is also participating in this one. I'm interested to see what the rest think. Doubt it'll do well, though.
The Tree of Life - Never seen it.
Wedding Crashers - Not a favorite, but it's a rare comedy that I like. Plus I've got a soft spot for Vince Vaughn.

[Citizen Rules]

As usual my thoughts on the noms

Pretty Baby (1978) pahaK...Good choice! I've heard about this movie since I was a kid but never seen it, so glad to have a chance to watch it. I do have a quality link if anyone needs it.

Being There (1979) Siddon...I thought for sure when Siddon said he went with an Oscar winner from 1979 it would be The Deerhunter. This looks cool and like something I might like.

The Breakfast Club (1985) Citizen Rules...Which one are you? And which one am I? Take a guess if you can, but I bet you'll guess me wrong.

Moonstruck (1987) edarsenal...I might have seen this, but don't remember it so glad to have it nominated.

Dark City (1998) wyldesyde19...Interested in watching this again.

Quills (2000) Miss Vicky...I knew you'd nominate this! I do like Kate Winslet and Phoenix is a great actor, but you already knew that! I don't know if this will be something I like, so we'll see.

Wedding Crashers (2005) rauldc14...This sounds fun and I might have seen it. I don't log films so who knows.

The Tree of Life (2011) ahwell...You say we talked about this? I don't remember what I said, but this is one of the very few films that I shut off at the beginning and wished I had seen the whole thing. Now I will!

The Hunt (Jagten) (2012) neiba...Wait a minute, didn't you nominate this before in the 13th HoF and then dropped out. Does that mean you're planning a repeat;)

Pride (2014) The Usual Suspect....Never heard of this so this will be a blind watch.

[Wyldesyde19]

Being There (1979) Siddon...I thought for sure when Siddon said he went with an Oscar winner from 1979 it would be The Deerhunter. This looks cool and like something I might like.

The Deer Hunter won the previous year (1978).
I actually thought he might have been nominating Apocalypse Now, which was one of my choices. It was either that, Norma Rae, or Kramer vs Kramer.

[Wyldesyde19]

I’ve seen 5 of the films and have heard of all but two. A quick search on Wikipedia reveals they were both nominated for major awards previously.
The Hunt (best foreign film Oscar nominee I see)
Pride (best comedy or musical golden globe nominee)
Both look interesting.

Quills just may be the front runner in my opinion, as that’s an amazing movie that I can’t wait to rewatch. (Thanks Miss Vicky!)

Obviously I’ll wait and see the others I haven’t seen yet before I make my decision. (particularly Being There and The Tree of Life).

[Citizen Rules]

The Deer Hunter won the previous year (1978).
I actually thought he might have been nominating Apocalypse Now, which was one of my choices. It was either that, Norma Rae, or Kramer vs Kramer.
Of course that makes since, I hadn't thought about that. BTW all of those films are good!

[Wyldesyde19]

The Deer Hunter won the previous year (1978).
I actually thought he might have been nominating Apocalypse Now, which was one of my choices. It was either that, Norma Rae, or Kramer vs Kramer.
Of course that makes since, I hadn't thought about that. BTW all of those films are good!
Agreed!

[ahwell]

Citizen Rules

Here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=60066)'s the link to the thread where we talked about Tree of Life.

[Citizen Rules]

@Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637)

Here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=60066)'s the link to the thread where we talked about Tree of Life. Ah, thanks...I did say the same thing, how about that. I guess I'm consistent, either that or repetitive:p

Tree of LifeWhen I first got into films I tried watching it and I shut it off...BUT...I always thought that it was a film that was worth watching and I've been meaning to get back to it again. So it's interesting to hear you loved it on the second try. I think if I knew what style of film it was I might have been able to hang in there and finish it. As it was I only seen the first 10 minutes or so. Well one of these days I'll hopefully get to check it out again.

[Wyldesyde19]

Wedding Crashers

You know what? Shout out to rauldc14 for this nomination. This is one the few comedies that still holds up over a decade after its first release.

Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn play 2 friends who crash weddings. It plays off of hijinks like you would expect, but you know what? They are tied together very well. And there’s also some heart to this story.

Vaughn in particular is hilarious in this, as he takes the hits, both literal and figuratively, throughout the film. Wilson plays his part as the rake who secretly wants to settle down. If he could only find the right woman.
Enter Rachel McAdams. The scenes between them are funny, and somewhat relatable as they both long for each other both are prevented from coming out and saying so for their own reasons.
If there is one issue with this film, it’s that it’s too long. They could have easily trimmed about 20 mins. I would have started with Will Ferrells scenes myself. He’s completely pointless in this, and he hams it up in what few scenes he’s in. Not a fan.

Seriously, this is a good comedy, and entertaining to boot.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I think I was around when Quills was nominated before, I dug it.

I've also nominated Dark City before, love that film.

I'm really glad people have not seen my nomination, some people haven't even heard of it. So it'll be interesting to see people's reaction to it going in blind.

[Wyldesyde19]

I'm really glad people have not seen my nomination, some people haven't even heard of it. So it'll be interesting to see people's reaction to it going in blind.

That’s a large reason why I’ve joined this. So many films out there’s it’s impossible to know them all. Sometimes, there’s that person who has seen a film I’m not familiar with that’ll get my attention.

[pahaK]

Pretty Baby (1978) pahaK: Like I said, back to the roots: a young girl and kinda controversial film :D Really interested in what people think of it.

Being There (1979) Siddon: Despite being an Oscar winner I don't think I've even heard of it before.

The Breakfast Club (1985) Citizen Rules: I'm almost certain that I've seen this but don't remember anything. It just sounds vaguely familiar.

Moonstruck (1987) edarsenal: Familiar name but I've never been too interested to see it. I guess that'll have to change.

Dark City (1998) wyldesyde19: Saw this when it was new. I think I mostly liked it but there might have been some issues that prevented me from adoring it. Been meaning to rewatch it anyway so now I will.

Quills (2000) Miss Vicky: Seen this one when it was released as well. Again, don't remember much but I think the experience was mostly positive.

Wedding Crashers (2005) rauldc14: Pretty sure I've never seen this. So many comedies this time around :suspicious:

The Tree of Life (2011) ahwell: Haven't seen this. Not too fond of Malick usually so we'll see...

The Hunt (Jagten) (2012) neiba: This one has been on my watchlist for quite a while.

Pride (2014) The Usual Suspect: Haven't seen this one either. And my god, another comedy :(

[CosmicRunaway]

I had The Hunt ranked first on my list in the 13th HoF before it was disqualified, so it's nice to see it get another chance. :up:

Plus I've got a soft spot for Vince Vaughn.
When I was home last week there a couple different Vince Vaughn films on tv. Dodgeball, Old School...and something else I don't remember now. Maybe it was actually Wedding Crashers. It was weird to see them in between all the Die Hard, Rocky, and Home Alone marathons that were on most channels haha.

[neiba]

I nominated it in a previous HOF, but I think raul was the only person who participated in that one that is also participating in this one.

I was also in it :p

[Miss Vicky]

I was also in it :p

I think you’re misremembering. I nominated it in the Fifth Hall of Fame.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=37178

[TheUsualSuspect]

I think you’re misremembering. I nominated it in the Fifth Hall of Fame.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=37178

Hmm, I watched it because of Mofo I thought. Maybe not.

[neiba]

I think you’re misremembering. I nominated it in the Fifth Hall of Fame.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=37178

I also thought I had watched it cause of a HoF! :O maybe 1 year ago or smthing like that!

[neiba]

Pretty Baby (1978) pahaK Never heard of it

Being There (1979) Siddon Never heard of it.

The Breakfast Club (1985) Citizen Rules Lovely movie that I am looking forward to rewatch. And my bet to win this thing.

Moonstruck (1987) edarsenal Never heard of it

Dark City (1998) wyldesyde19 Never heard of it

Quills (2000) Miss Vicky Watched it 1 year ago, it's pretty good. i'm curious to see how it will do here.

Wedding Crashers (2005) rauldc14 i always considered one of those cheap comedies you watch on a lazy sunday. i watched bits of it on various occasions but never the whole thing.


The Tree of Life (2011) ahwell I won't rewatch this one cause I was involved in an essay about it last year so I remember it very well... I'd say this is a modern 2001: A Space Odyssey. It won't do well here but i'm willing to bet this is the most perfect film of this HoF by a landslide. It's art cinema at its peak.

The Hunt (Jagten) (2012) neiba Citizen Rules is right. This is the second time I nominate this. I never got to see how much MoFos like it or not cause i had to give up on the HoF. It won't happen again, but if by any chance did, i think we can say that the film is cursed.

Pride (2014) The Usual Suspect Never heard of it.

An interesting set of movies with some surprising choices. I have seen 4 and a half, 3 of them are huge favourites, and there's a lot of unknown films. Maybe I can find some hidden gem.

[rauldc14]

I really liked Quills the first time and I expect to still like it.

[edarsenal]

Pretty Baby (1978)
Nominated by: pahaK Like CR, I was very curious about this when it came out; should be a very good watch

Being There (1979)
Nominated by: Siddon I had seen this in 9th Grade with a strong love for his Pink Panther role and his cameos on Laugh-In and was surprised at the complete difference of the role. About a decade ago, having learned of his hatred of playing a buffoon (The Inspector) and that this was a film he had wanted to do for a very long time I rewatched it with much more appreciation and a more open mind.
Looking forward to a rewatch.

The Breakfast Club (1985)
Nominated by: Citizen Rules Been a few decades since my last watch of this; it should be a lot of fun.

Moonstruck (1987)
Nominated by: edarsenal I had watched this dozen of times when it came out and re-watched it the night I decided to go with it. LOVED Olympia Dukakis in this and still do.

Dark City (1998)
Nominated by: wyldesyde19 HUGE fan of this. I own the Director's Cut. Great to have a reason to see it again.

Quills (2000)
Nominated by: Miss Vicky meh

;) Miss Vicky

Wedding Crashers (2005)
Nominated by: rauldc14 TBH I'm seriously dreading this one. Sorry raul

The Tree of Life (2011)
Nominated by: ahwell Have not heard of this but I am intrigued

The Hunt (Jagten) (2012)
Nominated by: neiba Haven't seen this but DO remember the talk regarding this film. Should be both harrowing and incredible

Pride (2014)
Nominated by: The Usual Suspect Have not heard of this but looks very worthwhile
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[Citizen Rules]

Dark City (1998)
Nominated by: wyldesyde19 HUGE fan of this. I own the Director's Cut. Great to have a reason to see it again.
Is the director's cut longer? How does it compare to the theatrical release?

@Wyldesyde19 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=104656) have you seen the director's cut? Opinions? Just wondering which version to watch.

[ahwell]

Dark City (1998)
Nominated by: wyldesyde19 HUGE fan of this. I own the Director's Cut. Great to have a reason to see it again.
Is the director's cut longer? How does it compare to the theatrical release?

@Wyldesyde19 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=104656) have you seen the director's cut? Opinions? Just wondering which version to watch.
I’ve been told directors cut is the better one by far, so that’s what I’ll be watching (unless Wyldesyde19 cares which one).

[CosmicRunaway]

If possible, I actually recommend watching the opening of Dark City's theatrical cut, then switching to the director's cut after. The voice over is unnecessary, but I think the opening sequence is far more interesting in that version.

The theatrical cut has everyone suddenly falling asleep at the exact same time, which is a bit creepy. The director's cut just has a guy checking his watch. If you've seen the original version, you know why he's worried about the time. If you haven't, then it lacks context and doesn't have that same air of mystery.

[Siddon]

This is like Cinema Paradiso all over again, this is the one I'm watching because I own it.



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[Wyldesyde19]

Dark City (1998)
Nominated by: wyldesyde19 HUGE fan of this. I own the Director's Cut. Great to have a reason to see it again.
Is the director's cut longer? How does it compare to the theatrical release?

@Wyldesyde19 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=104656) have you seen the director's cut? Opinions? Just wondering which version to watch.
I’d have to double check but I’m pretty sure I own the directors cut.
I’ve seen both, but it’s been so long, Since I’ve seen the original version, I can’t Accurately compare. The last several growing have been of the directors cut, if indeed I own it.
It doesn’t matter to me which version you watch unless there is a need to

[cricket]

Wedding Crashers is my #4 comedy since the start of the 90's behind Beerfest, The Hangover, and Old School. It doesn't get much better if it's the type of comedy you like.

I'm not a big fan of historical costume drama types, but Quills is one of the best I've seen. Oddly enough it has one of the funniest scenes I've seen in any movie.

Saw Dark City once and couldn't get into it. It's really not my type but I would try it again.

I'm not generally a fan of rom-coms either, but Moonstruck is one of the best I've seen.

Saw The Hunt twice. Didn't love it as much the second time but it's a great movie.

I love 70's Hal Ashby and nominated one of his movies before (Coming Home). The only one I wasn't a big fan of was Being There. I was surprised because I've always thought of it as his most well known and most highly acclaimed. It should do well here.

There are movies that I think are the best representatives of their decades; Easy Rider for the 60's, Saturday Night Fever for the 70's, and The Breakfast Club for the 80's. A total classic that'd most likely be my #1 here.

I will definitely watch Tree of Life and I'll see about Pretty Baby and Pride.

[ahwell]

The Tree of Life

I'll do my own nomination first, as it's the only one I've seen and I won't be rewatching it because it was only a month or two back. To me this is one of the best movies I've ever seen, and my fourth favorite of the 2010s. I haven't seen anything else by Malick but I'm really looking forward to his stuff now (especially A Hidden Life). Brad Pitt gives his best performance in my opinion, and the rest of the acting is great too. The cinematography and visuals are absolutely eye popping, I mean, some of the best I've ever seen. This movie could have been a pretentious mess, and in many ways it can verge on pretentious, but Malick holds it all together with believable characters, moments of both life and death, and an overall feeling of pure wonder at existence. Just incredible.

4.5-

[ahwell]

Pretty Baby

This film wasn't really for me. I liked the first hour and thought the slice of life parts were set up really well. It kind of reminded me of the Florida Project.

However, the second half, most notably when Violet gets involved with Belloq, really goes down hill. I think the characters make decisions that they wouldn't have at the beginning, the plot becomes unrealistic, and it just drags.

It was an interesting watch, but not something I really want to return to.

2.5+

[Miss Vicky]

I'm pretty sure it's the theatrical cut of Dark City that I own on DVD, so that's what I'll be watching.

[Citizen Rules]

I requested Dark City from my library so I'll have to see which version it comes with, but it might be worth seeking out the Director's Cut. Even though I generally haven't liked Director's Cuts.

[Wyldesyde19]

I requested Dark City from my library so I'll have to see which version it comes with, but it might be worth seeking out the Director's Cut. Even though I generally haven't liked Director's Cuts.
You know, I’ve watched both the original and directors cut of Apocalypse Now Redux and I much preferred the original version. Have not seen the latest version. So I understand what you’re talking about.
I own all three versions of Close Encounters of the Third Kind but have yet to watch them all. I wonder how those are?
And I haven’t watched all...what is it, 4 versions of Blade Runner?

[Citizen Rules]

You know, I’ve watched both the original and directors cut of Apocalypse Now Redux and I much preferred the original version. Have not seen the latest version. So I understand what you’re talking about.
I own all three versions of Close Encounters of the Third Kind but have yet to watch them all. I wonder how those are?
And I haven’t watched all...what is it, 4 versions of Blade Runner?Yup 4 versions of Blade Runner on the Blu-Ray set. I think the worst Director's Cut I've seen is Dune. I like Dune but only in the original theatrical cut. As far as Blade Runner goes I'm totally a fan of the original theatrical cut and I hate the so called Final Cut of Blade Runner.

[rauldc14]

I won't get a start on this for a little bit just FYI

[pahaK]

Pretty Baby (1978)

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To get the obvious out of the way immediately, you couldn't make Pretty Baby today. Fortunately, things were different in the 70s. Back then movies didn't shy away from divisive topics, and there was a level of honesty that is missing these days. Now 12-year-old Brooke Shield's nudity would cause outrage while show business is sexualizing children more than ever. We're living in an age of hypocrisy.

The film itself is a slice of life centered around a brothel in New Orleans during the WWI. Violet is a daughter of a whore who's spent her entire life among the prostitutes. I like how she's written to reflect this unusual upbringing, for her sex is ordinary, but normal human relations aren't. When she leaves the brothel, she still sees human interactions mainly sexual and abusive. Whether or not Bellocq initially has sexual motives for her, she can't fathom any other kind of relationship.

Characters are Pretty Baby's greatest strength. All of them feel real people with consistent personalities. Most of them are annoying in varying ways (especially Violet, who's selfish diva throwing tantrums every time things don't go her way - not surprisingly she's like an exaggerated version of her mother), but that's how people are. Bellocq is the most decent person in the film, and his biggest flaw is falling in love with a 12-year-old girl.

I love how Pretty Baby is neutral and non-preaching despite its controversial topic. Today many films try to cram a message down the viewer's throat, but Malle is happy letting his viewers make their evaluations. There's no artificial division to good and bad people, no stance taken on prostitution, or on marrying a child. It's far less condescending cinema.

The above sounds overtly positive for my review, but that doesn't mean Pretty Baby is without flaws. I don't even consider it a great film, just good. There are scenes where the acting is only mediocre; there are some pacing issues, and the ending is rather abrupt. I would have preferred some extra time showing the happier co-existence of Bellocq and Violet to make his proposition less out of the blue. But with flaws and all, it deserves to be reckoned for its merits instead of just as a piece of controversial cinema.

[gbgoodies]

If possible, I actually recommend watching the opening of Dark City's theatrical cut, then switching to the director's cut after. The voice over is unnecessary, but I think the opening sequence is far more interesting in that version.

The theatrical cut has everyone suddenly falling asleep at the exact same time, which is a bit creepy. The director's cut just has a guy checking his watch. If you've seen the original version, you know why he's worried about the time. If you haven't, then it lacks context and doesn't have that same air of mystery.


Is this the opening of the theatrical cut?

Dark City's theatrical cut opening (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6DuMHvVfjws)

Before anyone watches it, I just want to mention that many of the comments on that YouTube page recommend NOT watching it because it gives away too much info and/or ruins the movie.



.

[Wyldesyde19]

I checked my DVD and it is indeed the directors cut I own. I don’t think it’ll matter which one you choose to watch.
Unless Ahwell wants to make a ruling? Being new to this, I’m not sure if I should have specified?

[Citizen Rules]

I checked my DVD and it is indeed the directors cut I own. I don’t think it’ll matter which one you choose to watch.
Unless Ahwell wants to make a ruling? Being new to this, I’m not sure if I should have specified?I wasn't asking about which version of Dark City should be watched as some sort of rule clarification. I only asked just to see which one people like better. I'll probably be watching whatever version I can find, and/or if I can find both which one I haven't seen (I've seen this 2 times before so would like to see a different cut).

[Wyldesyde19]

I checked my DVD and it is indeed the directors cut I own. I don’t think it’ll matter which one you choose to watch.
Unless Ahwell wants to make a ruling? Being new to this, I’m not sure if I should have specified?I wasn't asking about which version of Dark City should be watched as some sort of rule clarification. I asked just to see which one people like better. I'll probably be watching whatever one I can find and or if I can find both which one I haven't seen (I've seen this 2 times before).
Ah ok, I’m sorry.

[Citizen Rules]

Ah ok, I’m sorry. No worries and no reason to be sorry:) Not a problem at all for me, I enjoyed reading people's input into theatrical vs directors cut.

[CosmicRunaway]

Is this the opening of the theatrical cut?

Dark City's theatrical cut opening (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6DuMHvVfjws)

Before anyone watches it, I just want to mention that many of the comments on that YouTube page recommend NOT watching it because it gives away too much info and/or ruins the movie.
That is the theatrical cut opening, and yeah, the narration at the start does give out certain information a little too early.

For anyone curious, you can skip to 1:12 in that video to completely avoid the narration and watch the rest of the scene. That's how the Director's Cut should have opened, however it cuts everything else as well, which is a shame since I think it's an effective intro.

[CosmicRunaway]

I requested Dark City from my library so I'll have to see which version it comes with, but it might be worth seeking out the Director's Cut. Even though I generally haven't liked Director's Cuts.
Most of what it changes is largely inconsequential to the overall plot. The added scenes just expand on certain information or relationships. There's some alterations to colour, but I honestly don't remember which cut had which tones (just that one is distinctly more blue), so I don't think it affects the mood at all.

You'll get roughly the same experience watching the theatrical cut instead, so if that's the version you end up with, don't worry about it too much.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I would recommend the Director's Cut of Dark City. The opening text completely spoils the film!!!! It makes whatever surprises later on, null and void!!!!

After watching the film, check this out. (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=49988)

[Citizen Rules]

...The added scenes just expand on certain information or relationships. There's some alterations to colour, but I honestly don't remember which cut had which tones (just that one is distinctly more blue), so I don't think it affects the mood at all.
Thanks for that, it helps...Last time I watched Dark City I was a bit underwhelmed as I had remembered it so much more detailed and nuanced. No doubt my own brain created scenes that never existed! I do that on certain movies, then end up surprised when those scenes aren't actually there, ha. I have no idea what version I seen the last time but if the Director's Cut has added dialogue then that's for me.

I would recommend the Director's Cut of Dark City. The opening text completely spoils the film!!!! It makes whatever surprises later on, null and void!!!!

After watching the film, check this out. (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=49988)No surprises for me as I know what will happen:p Thanks for the link!

[neiba]

Wedding Crashers (2005)

First time watching this in one sitting, as opposed to catch it while zapping various times.

Quite cliched romcom but a good one nevertheless. It features two of my least favorite actors, Owen Wilson and a rather unnecessary Will Ferrel. I can't believe or laugh at anything they do, and they still haven't showed me they can act.
However, I love Rachel McAdams and she's the one responsible for the most truthful part of this film. She lends a sincerity to every scene she's in, and makes the chemistry work with anyone she's counteracting with, which is lovely.
There were many parts that made me smile though the end was a huuuge eyeroll.
I also didn't care for Bradley Cooper in here. He's talented but his character had nothing to go with.

It's nice to have light hearted films in these HoFs sometimes, as they get so filled with heavy dramas (like my own nom eheh).

3 -

[neiba]

Pride (2014)

Second watch, first surprise.

Everything is so simple in here and at the same so honest! It might go to some cliches sometimes but that doesn't matter when it's believable and in that way,this films succeeds!
I didn't know the real story, I know Margaret Thatcher was the devil and that she standed for a lot of things I hate, and I also know there was party among miners when she died which tells you a lot.
In this film, there are two very serious issues being portrayed but the whole light atmosphere is never compromised. That has to do with a very good soundtrack, very interesting cinematography and especially great writing and character building. Every single one of these characters has a life of their own, and the director does well in not allowing any of them to shine brighter than the others, even if it was easy to do so, either by focusing on Joe's coming out or Mark's leadership and charisma. It's a film about Union and how it can achieve great results and the way the film is written is a perfect metaphor for its theme!
The miners and families are delightful to watch and hilarious, while still being truthful.

Damn, I missed the days where a film I had never heard about would surprise me in these HoFs. It's the reason I join these things and the later ones left me a little bit disappointed, to be completely honest. But here it is. Cheers @The Usual Suspect

4 +

[neiba]

Jagten (2012)

Jagten is part of my top 10 and it's among the heaviest watches I ever went through.
It's a movie that will make you get mad at the world, it will make you cry, and even when it's all over it won't let you go for some time.
The way it is shot and the script make it really realistic, making you feel that whatever happens on screen can happen to you! Everything that happens in the second half of this could seem impossible if you didn't watch the first half, but the way everything develops is logic and at some point, almost inevitable - and that's fuc*ing scary!!!
Mads Mikkelsen delivers an astonishing performance, proving himself as one of the most talented and underrated actors in business, and I hate that he keeps doing the same Hollywood empty villain over and over again, when he's better than so many guys winning Oscars right now.

4.5+

[Miss Vicky]

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MovieLog/bfastclub.gif

The Breakfast Club (John Hughes, 1985)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088847/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Date Watched: 01/02/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 21st MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by Citizen Rules
Rewatch: Yes.

"It's kind of social. Demented and sad, but social."

When I last did my top 100 movies, I had The Breakfast Club ranked in my top 20. If I were to redo the list today, it would probably rank considerably lower.

Which is not to say that I don't still love it. I do - and still consider it a favorite - but there are parts that bother me and it's sometimes just downright corny. I've always hated Allison's makeover scene (actually, I pretty much hate everything Claire does) and Andrew's fist-pumping dance/run/whatever around the library, but I think I hate them even more with every rewatch.

That said, I've always related to some degree to Allison and Brian and have long struggled with my own feelings of inadequacy and invisibility. John has always been my favorite character though. He's by far the funniest of the group, but also has the most heartbreaking backstory. I may have had a bit of a crush on him growing up. And maybe I still do.

Despite its flaws, this is still to me the quintessential 80s movie. It still makes me laugh. It still makes me cry. And I still love it.

4+

[cricket]

With all the great quotable lines from The Breakfast Club, the one I use the most is "will milk be made available to us". I use it when I make appointments or meetings get called at work. Nobody has ever gotten it and all I've gotten is weird looks. I should probably use a more well known line as my go to.

[Wyldesyde19]

Don’t you....forget about me....don’t don’t don’t don’t don’t you....forget about me...will you call my name? As you walk on by.....

*ahem*
Pardon the interruption.

[Miss Vicky]

I said la la la, la la la, la la la la la la...

[ahwell]

Quills

A thoroughly enjoyable and pretty brilliant film verging on dark comedy/satire. All the performances were great, although (Miss Vicky will literally kill me) I may not have actually enjoyed Phoenix all that much. Look, he's a good actor, I can appreciate him... but I don't know, to me he doesn't rise to being one of the greatest of all time that many claim him to be.

But still, his performance is completely satisfactory even if it's not outstanding. Kate Winslet also delivers.

The story has lots of twists and turns, which I loved! I couldn't tell where the story was going, and that's always a good thing with a movie.

The thing is, this movie felt really out of period, basically a modern day film set in the 1700s. I disliked it at first, but got more used to it as the film went along, and ended up enjoying that feel (the music, lighting, screenplay, etc.).

A good film, although I'm not sure it'll ever be a true favorite.

3.5+

[Miss Vicky]

ahwell

I'll give you the rep cause you liked the movie, but how many of Phoenix's performances have you seen? I know you've seen Quills, Return to Paradise, Her, and Joker, but is that all?

If so, give Gladiator, Walk the Line, The Master, and You Were Never Really Here a shot. If you still don't get it, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause.

[ahwell]

ahwell

I'll give you the rep cause you liked the movie, but how many of Phoenix's performances have you seen? I know you've seen Quills, Return to Paradise, Her, and Joker, but is that all?

If so, give Gladiator, Walk the Line, The Master, and You Were Never Really Here a shot. If you still don't get it, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause.

Yes, plus Parenthood, but that doesn't really count as its a small role.

I'll give those a try, they're all on my watchlist anyways. I've seen parts of Gladiator, and what I saw of him was great. I won't make a conclusion until I've seen the rest of it, though. The Master and You Were Never Really Here are also on my radar, so we'll see how I like them.

I kinda hate Johnny Cash, but I guess I'll see Walk the Line eventually.

[rauldc14]

Gladiator rises on my favorites list every time I see it.

[Miss Vicky]

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Pretty Baby (Louis Malle, 1978)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078111/reviews?ref_=tt_urv)

Date Watched: 01/03/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 21st MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by pahaK
Rewatch: No.

Well that was icky. And sad. And kind of confusing. But mostly icky.

The cause of the icky-ness and sadness is pretty obvious, but what makes it confusing is that I have really conflicting thoughts on both the events of the film and certain casting choices. Or rather, one casting choice. It's not often that I'm bothered by watching sexual content, but this bothered me quite a bit - which I suppose is a testament to the film. It's full of sex and yet is not at all sexy - and in the middle of this you have a character (and an actress) who is only a child. I was not okay with watching a 12 year old Brooke Shields doing what she was doing.

But despite my discomfort, there were things I appreciated about the film. It's beautifully shot with wonderful lighting and sumptuous colors. It also offers up a group of characters that, for the most part, are many shades of gray. They're complicated and full of contradictions and the cast all do well to bring them to life.

Overall I think it's a pretty solidly crafted film but - though I admire its boldness in its storytelling - I can't get over my hangups with it and simply didn't like it.

3

[Wyldesyde19]

ahwell

I'll give you the rep cause you liked the movie, but how many of Phoenix's performances have you seen? I know you've seen Quills, Return to Paradise, Her, and Joker, but is that all?

If so, give Gladiator, Walk the Line, The Master, and You Were Never Really Here a shot. If you still don't get it, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause.

Yes, plus Parenthood, but that doesn't really count as its a small role.

I'll give those a try, they're all on my watchlist anyways. I've seen parts of Gladiator, and what I saw of him was great. I won't make a conclusion until I've seen the rest of it, though. The Master and You Were Never Really Here are also on my radar, so we'll see how I like them.

I kinda hate Johnny Cash, but I guess I'll see Walk the Line eventually.
I enjoy his films, and I’ve seen a decent amount of his, but largely I’m leaning towards the opinion that Phoenix is a decent actor, but he never “wows” me.
I liked him in Gladiator, The Master, Joker, Clay Pigeons, 8mm and maybe one or two I’m forgetting, but I didn’t like him much in Quills, The Village, Signs or Walk the Line (a movie I felt was terribly overrated. I felt no chemistry between him and Reese)
I really can’t wait to rewatch Quills and pay closer attention to his scenes, as it’s been about quite awhile since I first saw it. Maybe he will surprise me here. 🤷

[Miss Vicky]

I enjoy his films, and I’ve seen a decent amount of his, but largely I’m leaning towards the opinion that Phoenix is a decent actor, but he never “wows” me.

Have you seen Her?

[Wyldesyde19]

I enjoy his films, and I’ve seen a decent amount of his, but largely I’m leaning towards the opinion that Phoenix is a decent actor, but he never “wows” me.

Have you seen Her?
I haven’t yet, but it’s definitely one I aim to. I hear he’s particularly excellent in it. Definitely need to remedy that.
It’s on Netflix, so I should be able to soon

[Miss Vicky]

I haven’t yet, but it’s definitely one I aim to. I hear he’s particularly excellent in it. Definitely need to remedy that.
It’s on Netflix, so I should be able to soon

It's my favorite performance from any actor. Absolutely amazing and a really great film, too. Top ten favorite for me and it won the 11th Hall of Fame (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=46753).

[Wyldesyde19]

I haven’t yet, but it’s definitely one I aim to. I hear he’s particularly excellent in it. Definitely need to remedy that.
It’s on Netflix, so I should be able to soon

It's my favorite performance from any actor. Absolutely amazing and a really great film, too. Top ten favorite for me and it won the 11th Hall of Fame (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=46753).
I’ll definitely get around to watching it soon.
When I say he doesn’t “wow” me, I realize that’s coming off overly critical of him more so then I meant it to be. He *is* a decent actor, after all. And I thought he was great in Joker. He was really good in Gladiator, although he did tend to over act on occasion.
I remember liking him a lot in Clay Pigeons, but that has been over 20years since I’ve seen it.
I’ll give his scenes some extra attention when I watch Quills, and maybe I’ll change my mind some. Definitely need to see Her soon though

[neiba]

ahwell

I'll give you the rep cause you liked the movie, but how many of Phoenix's performances have you seen? I know you've seen Quills, Return to Paradise, Her, and Joker, but is that all?

If so, give Gladiator, Walk the Line, The Master, and You Were Never Really Here a shot. If you still don't get it, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause.

It's not exactly fair to put the Master there. Even Adam Sandler becomes a good actor when working with Paul Thomas Anderson, imagine someone actually talented like Phoenix :p

[neiba]

I haven’t yet, but it’s definitely one I aim to. I hear he’s particularly excellent in it. Definitely need to remedy that.
It’s on Netflix, so I should be able to soon

It's my favorite performance from any actor. Absolutely amazing and a really great film, too. Top ten favorite for me and it won the 11th Hall of Fame (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=46753).
I’ll definitely get around to watching it soon.
When I say he doesn’t “wow” me, I realize that’s coming off overly critical of him more so then I meant it to be. He *is* a decent actor, after all. And I thought he was great in Joker. He was really good in Gladiator, although he did tend to over act on occasion.
I remember liking him a lot in Clay Pigeons, but that has been over 20years since I’ve seen it.
I’ll give his scenes some extra attention when I watch Quills, and maybe I’ll change my mind some. Definitely need to see Her soon though

Her it's a great film! Phoenix looks amazing, the script is beautiful and Scarlett's voice makes you fall in love with her! Definitely one of the best films of the decade

[rauldc14]

I'm surprised there are no movies pre-1978. There seems to be a lot of recentcy bias to the HOFs lately :)

[cricket]

Yes, plus Parenthood, but that doesn't really count as its a small role.

I'll give those a try, they're all on my watchlist anyways. I've seen parts of Gladiator, and what I saw of him was great. I won't make a conclusion until I've seen the rest of it, though. The Master and You Were Never Really Here are also on my radar, so we'll see how I like them.

I kinda hate Johnny Cash, but I guess I'll see Walk the Line eventually.

I think Phoenix is one of the best actors working today but I don't think his performance in Quills was one of his best. It was good but not a stand out.

[cricket]

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Pretty Baby (Louis Malle, 1978)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078111/reviews?ref_=tt_urv)

Date Watched: 01/03/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 21st MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by pahaK
Rewatch: No.

Well that was icky. And sad. And kind of confusing. But mostly icky.

The cause of the icky-ness and sadness is pretty obvious, but what makes it confusing is that I have really conflicting thoughts on both the events of the film and certain casting choices. Or rather, one casting choice. It's not often that I'm bothered by watching sexual content, but this bothered me quite a bit - which I suppose is a testament to the film. It's full of sex and yet is not at all sexy - and in the middle of this you have a character (and an actress) who is only a child. I was not okay with watching a 12 year old Brooke Shields doing what she was doing.

But despite my discomfort, there were things I appreciated about the film. It's beautifully shot with wonderful lighting and sumptuous colors. It also offers up a group of characters that, for the most part, are many shades of gray. They're complicated and full of contradictions and the cast all do well to bring them to life.

Overall I think it's a pretty solidly crafted film but - though I admire its boldness in its storytelling - I can't get over my hangups with it and simply didn't like it.

3

Obviously I like sick stuff but this is the one thing that bothers me. I don't care if a character is underage, but get an of age actress to play that character. I saw that Ebert defended and liked the film. IMO the movie should be banned.

[Miss Vicky]

I think Phoenix is one of the best actors working today but I don't think his performance in Quills was one of his best. It was good but not a stand out.

Obviously, I disagree (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2051087#post2051087). Though I must admit that I'm ever-so-slightly biased by a certain other factor.

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=58687

:randy: :shifty:

[neiba]

Dark City (1998)


Truman Show goes dark.

I liked the overall concept of the film, though the execution is not exactly my cup of tea. I know this film and The Crow, by the same director and with a similar atmosphere, are appreciated around here but there's something about it that feels tacky.
The whole looking for what makes us human in our memories is a theme some films try to tackle and that I really like, but here they fell into the cheap and easy way out. The whole "you've been looking in the wrong place" thing at the end made me roll my eyes till I could see my brain.
What I really liked about this was Jennifer Connely as the clueless femme fatale, especially when she was singing, but I feel those scenes could have been applied to any other neo-noir and actually work better cause at least they could be inside some context. There's no need in using a femme fatale if she's there only to convey useless romanticism to the whole thing. The actress has the power to be game changing and I feel the director didn't use her the best way possible.

2.5 +

[ahwell]

I think Phoenix is one of the best actors working today but I don't think his performance in Quills was one of his best. It was good but not a stand out.

Obviously, I disagree (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2051087#post2051087). Though I must admit that I'm ever-so-slightly biased by a certain other factor.

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=58687

:randy: :shifty:

Omg that :randy: emoji! Love it.

[Hey Fredrick]

If so, give Gladiator, Walk the Line, The Master, and You Were Never Really Here a shot. If you still don't get it, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause.

Definitely give that one a shot. Seen 14 of his movies and he's not somebody I even look for. He's just always seems to be in interesting movies. The Master, imo, is his best performance so far. Even though I don't think the movie is one of PTA's best I thought Joaquin gave one of the best performances ever and he should have won the Oscar that year.You Were Never Really Here is my favorite film of his. Love that one. Also, while not the best movie, it's a bit of an entertaining mess, I really liked him in Inherent Vice.

[neiba]

Moonstruck (1987)

I suppose any movie that uses La Boheme as the soundtrack has that as redeeming factor, but that's pretty much the only good thing about it.
The script goes from primary school theatre piece to mediocre to primary school theatre piece again, and when that happens no matter how good the actors are. Cher doesn't look too bad but she repeatedly falls victim of the poor writing and ends up looking like a caricature far too often. Nicholas Cage... Well, Nicholas Cage just seems to be overacting on purpose, as if he was mocking the script for being so bad. I wish that was the case, at least I could respect something about his performance.
The secondary characters are actually more interesting than the main roles but they are still too forgetable.
There's a couple of interesting lines in here but overall, this was a mess.

1.5

Sorry edarsenal :/

[neiba]

Done a binge this last couple of days cause I know I'll be away for the next 3 weeks cause there's an intense period of study coming. I might write my thoughts about Tree of Life this weekend, and I'll watch the remaining 4 films by the beggining of February.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm surprised there are no movies pre-1978. There seems to be a lot of recentcy bias to the HOFs lately :)I was going to go with an older American film or an older foreign film. Well, maybe next time.

Obviously I like sick stuff but this is the one thing that bothers me. I don't care if a character is underage, but get an of age actress to play that character. I saw that Ebert defended and liked the film. IMO the movie should be banned.I haven't seen Pretty Baby yet, but I'm surprised at the reactions so far....I wonder what I'm going to think???

[Wyldesyde19]

I'm surprised there are no movies pre-1978. There seems to be a lot of recentcy bias to the HOFs lately :)
I almost nominated Seven Samurai, but decided it may have been too long to watch for everyone. Next one I join may be an older film. I definitely try to mix it up some since I’ve first joined.
If I join the Best Picture and Musical ones that’s been tossed around, I will definitely nominate older films, as I have a few ideas already for them.

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Pretty Baby yet, but I'm surprised at the reactions so far....I wonder what I'm going to think???

Brooke Shields plays a child prostitute and has a few nude scenes - which would be fine if the character was being played by a young looking adult, but she was only 12 years old at the time.

[Citizen Rules]

Brooke Shields plays a child prostitute and has a few nude scenes - which would be fine if the character was being played by a young looking adult, but she was only 12 years old at the time.I knew that. Question for you and Cricket: do you object to the subject mater of a 12 year old prostitute? What about Jodi Foster in Taxi? Or is it something else about the movie you both don't like. Cricket said it should be banned which really surprised me (though I haven't seen it).

[Miss Vicky]

I almost nominated Seven Samurai, but decided it may have been too long to watch for everyone.

HOF rules state nominations cannot exceed 220 minutes. Seven Samurai's runtime, as listed on IMDb, falls at 207 minutes so it's pushing the limits but would still qualify.

I won the 13th HOF with Dances With Wolves. The theatrical cut of that is 3 hours long, but at least one participant watched the 4 hour extended cut, which even I haven't seen. I think if the movie is good enough, then the length won't hinder it too much.

Incidentally I watched Seven Samurai for the 50s countdown. I rated it a 4- and had it at #11 on my countdown ballot. I don't love it but I think it might do well in a HOF.

[Miss Vicky]

I knew that. Question for you and Cricket: do you object to the subject mater of a 12 year old prostitute? What about Jodi Foster in Taxi? Or is it something else about the movie you both don't like. Cricket said it should be banned which really surprised me (though I haven't seen it).

I don't object to a movie being made about a child prostitute. I object to a child doing nude scenes in a movie about a child prostitute.

I don't think any subject should be off limits to filmmakers provided it's done in a way that does not exploit or abuse children or abuse animals.

[Citizen Rules]

HOF rules state nominations cannot exceed 220 minutes. Seven Samurai's runtime, as listed on IMDb, falls at 207 minutes so it's pushing the limits but would still qualify.

I won the 13th HOF with Dances With Wolves. The theatrical cut of that is 3 hours long, but at least one participant watched the 4 hour extended cut, which even I haven't seen. I think if the movie is good enough, then the length won't hinder it too much.

Incidentally I watched Seven Samurai for the 50s countdown. I rated it a rating_4- and had it at #11 on my countdown ballot. I don't love it but I think it might do well in a HOF.It's 240 minutes in this and the last HoF. Of course each host can choose to alter that time frame and also exceptions can always be made. Personally I think a longer movie is fine, as long as the person nominating it believes in the film and that person doesn't drop out!

[Citizen Rules]

I don't object to a movie being made about a child prostitute. I object to a child doing nude scenes in a movie about a child prostitute.

I don't think any subject should be off limits to filmmakers provided it's done in a way that does not exploit or abuse children or abuse animals.OK. What if there was a nude 12 year old in a movie but not doing a prostitute scene? Would that change the way you feel?

I'm just curious. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything like that...and I've objected to a couple of films along the same basis myself so I'm wondering how people view things. Hmm I sound like Iron Pony today:p

[Miss Vicky]

It's 240 minutes in this and the last HoF. Of course each host can choose to alter that time frame and also exceptions can always be made. Personally I think a longer movie is fine, as long as the person nominating it believes in the film and that person doesn't drop out!

Oh, totally didn't notice that. I think it was 220 prior to that. I know it was 220 when I hosted. Still the point remains that long movies can fair well in a HOF, provided they're strong enough and have a broad enough appeal to get the necessary points.

[Citizen Rules]

Oh, totally didn't notice that. I think it was 220 prior to that. I know it was 220 when I hosted. Still the point remains that long movies can fair well in a HOF, provided they're strong enough and have a broad enough appeal to get the necessary points.Yes you're right it was 220 for many HoFs. In the earlier HoFs it was 240. As far as I know no one has ever wanted to nominate a movie much longer than 4 hours.

Totally agree with you that: long movies can fair well in a HOF, provided they're strong enough and have a broad enough appeal to get the necessary points.

[Miss Vicky]

OK. What if there was a nude 12 year old in a movie but not doing a prostitute scene? Would that change the way you feel?

It would depend entirely on the context. For example, there is some child nudity in Schindler's List, but because of the context it doesn't bother me.

I'm just curious. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything like that...and I've objected to a couple of films along the same basis myself

Which movies were those? The only one I can recall that might fall under that descriptor is Call Me By Your Name, in which a 22 year old Timothée Chalamet played a 17 year old.

[pahaK]

I haven't seen Pretty Baby yet, but I'm surprised at the reactions so far....I wonder what I'm going to think???

I think I told you in a PM that several people will hate the film due to that underaged nudity alone. I get that it's a touchy subject and obviously that controversy plays a major role in why I chose this particular film. The only thing that's surprised me this far is cricket with his demand for a ban.

Personally I have no issue with Brooke Shields on this. It's quite apparent that she (and her parents) were fine with it so who am I to judge. I'm a firm believer in artistic freedom and I also think that individuals should be free to do as they choose as long as they don't harm others (again, moral annoyance isn't harming).

[Citizen Rules]

I need to watch Pretty Baby tonight! It would depend entirely on the context. For example, there is some child nudity in Schindler's List, but because of the context it doesn't bother me.

Which movies were those? The only one I can recall that might fall under that descriptor is Call Me By Your Name, in which a 22 year old Timothée Chalamet played a 17 year old.I was planning on including the HoF movies with child nudity that I objected to in one way or another in my review of Pretty Baby. I'm sure I won't forget, but if I do ask me again. I'll try to watch Pretty Baby tonight.

[neiba]

Oh damn it , screw the pause to study, now I have to watch pretty girl!!! --' you guys are mean :p

[Siddon]

Which movies were those? The only one I can recall that might fall under that descriptor is Call Me By Your Name, in which a 22 year old Timothée Chalamet played a 17 year old.




Pixote - nom'd Cricket
Child Bride - nom'd Pahak


I would like a no underage nudity rule in future Hall of Fames, this is the third time it's happened in the last 18 months

[Citizen Rules]

Pixote - nom'd Cricket
Child Bride - nom'd Pahak


I would like a no underage nudity rule in future Hall of Fames, this is the third time it's happened in the last 18 monthsChild Bride was one of films that I objected to the film maker's intentions BUT I didn't object to Pahak choosing it. In fact I thought it was an interesting nom. I kind of liked Pixote and that wasn't a film I was thinking about.

[pahaK]

I would like a no underage nudity rule in future Hall of Fames, this is the third time it's happened in the last 18 months

And I personally would like a no bad movies rule :D

[Citizen Rules]

And I personally would like a no bad movies rule :DHa:p

Personally I'd like an ALL MUSICAL rule;)

[Siddon]

And I personally would like a no bad movies rule :D


Yeah but you don't risk going to jail for having bad movies on your computer.

[pahaK]

Yeah but you don't risk going to jail for having bad movies on your computer.

I'm sure you're safe watching movies that are available on Amazon Prime :rolleyes:

[pahaK]

Ha:p

Personally I'd like an ALL MUSICAL rule;)

Hey, that would most likely contradict with my rule :mad:

[Citizen Rules]

Hey, that would most likely contradict with my rule :mad: Good one!:p

[Wyldesyde19]

And I personally would like a no bad movies rule :DHa:p

Personally I'd like an ALL MUSICAL rule;)
I know there was talk of doing a musical HOF. So we can just do that soon 🙂

[Wyldesyde19]

I don’t think the subject of nudity regarding underaged children shouldn’t be something we ban when nominating movies, but I think it would depend on the context.
Like Mis Vickys example with Schindler’s List, and with Testament from 1983 there is a brief scene of a naked child, but it wasn’t in an exploitative way. I thinks that’s the key there.

[Wyldesyde19]

Also, Pretty Baby was a film that sharply divided critics as well when It was first released and there were some famous admirers of it. Gene Siskel has it at #2 on his top ten films of 1978 list.
Roger Ebert have it 3 stars and wrote “ Pretty Baby has been attacked in some quarters as child porn. It's not. It's an evocation of a time and a place and a sad chapter of Americana.”
I haven’t read too much about the film myself, although I am familiar with Malle so I knew of it, but I get the feeling it was aimed as some sort of social commentary regarding a time where children weren’t so protected.

Really looking forward to this now

[edarsenal]

Moonstruck (1987)

I suppose any movie that uses La Boheme as the soundtrack has that as redeeming factor, but that's pretty much the only good thing about it.
The script goes from primary school theatre piece to mediocre to primary school theatre piece again, and when that happens no matter how good the actors are. Cher doesn't look too bad but she repeatedly falls victim of the poor writing and ends up looking like a caricature far too often. Nicholas Cage... Well, Nicholas Cage just seems to be overacting on purpose, as if he was mocking the script for being so bad. I wish that was the case, at least I could respect something about his performance.
The secondary characters are actually more interesting than the main roles but they are still too forgetable.
There's a couple of interesting lines in here but overall, this was a mess.

1.5

Sorry edarsenal :/

No worries.
I appreciate honest critique and I've a number of favorites go very badly as well as be simply middle of the pack so I seriously don't take it personally or get upset.
This site has an amazing diversity when it comes to the members' likes and dislikes and I love sampling that it these HoFs as well as tossing in mine in, knowing full well that it may not, and can be, disliked.

So, it's all good, neiba :)

[Wyldesyde19]

Moonstruck (1987)

I suppose any movie that uses La Boheme as the soundtrack has that as redeeming factor, but that's pretty much the only good thing about it.
The script goes from primary school theatre piece to mediocre to primary school theatre piece again, and when that happens no matter how good the actors are. Cher doesn't look too bad but she repeatedly falls victim of the poor writing and ends up looking like a caricature far too often. Nicholas Cage... Well, Nicholas Cage just seems to be overacting on purpose, as if he was mocking the script for being so bad. I wish that was the case, at least I could respect something about his performance.
The secondary characters are actually more interesting than the main roles but they are still too forgetable.
There's a couple of interesting lines in here but overall, this was a mess.

1.5

Sorry edarsenal :/

No worries.
I appreciate honest critique and I've a number of favorites go very badly as well as be simply middle of the pack so I seriously don't take it personally or get upset.
This site has an amazing diversity when it comes to the members' likes and dislikes and I love sampling that it these HoFs as well as tossing in mine in, knowing full well that it may not, and can be, disliked.

So, it's all good, neiba :)
Same. It’s always important to not take criticism against your pick personally.
I don’t expect many to enjoy Dark City, but it is amongst my favorites regardless.
Have no fear however, I’ve seen Moonstruck and I loved it when I first watched it. I doubt anything will have changed when I review it in the next week 🙂

[Siddon]

I'm sure you're safe watching movies that are available on Amazon Prime :rolleyes:


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Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Law On Child Pornography

18 U.S.C. § 2251- Sexual Exploitation of Children
(Production of child pornography)
18 U.S.C. § 2251A- Selling and Buying of Children
18 U.S.C. § 2252- Certain activities relating to material involving the sexual exploitation of minors
(Possession, distribution and receipt of child pornography)
18 U.S.C. § 2252A- certain activities relating to material constituting or containing child pornography
18 U.S.C. § 2256- Definitions
18 U.S.C. § 2260- Production of sexually explicit depictions of a minor for importation into the United States
Images of child pornography are not protected under First Amendment rights, and are illegal contraband under federal law. Section 2256 of Title 18, United States Code, defines child pornography as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18 years of age). Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor. Undeveloped film, undeveloped videotape, and electronically stored data that can be converted into a visual image of child pornography are also deemed illegal visual depictions under federal law.
Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive. Additionally, the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state is irrelevant; any depiction of a minor under 18 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct is illegal.
Federal law prohibits the production, distribution, reception, and possession of an image of child pornography using or affecting any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce (See 18 U.S.C. § 2251; 18 U.S.C. § 2252; 18 U.S.C. § 2252A). Specifically, Section 2251 makes it illegal to persuade, induce, entice, or coerce a minor to engage in sexually explicit conduct for purposes of producing visual depictions of that conduct. Any individual who attempts or conspires to commit a child pornography offense is also subject to prosecution under federal law.
Federal jurisdiction is implicated if the child pornography offense occurred in interstate or foreign commerce. This includes, for example, using the U.S. Mails or common carriers to transport child pornography across state or international borders. Additionally, federal jurisdiction almost always applies when the Internet is used to commit a child pornography violation. Even if the child pornography image itself did not travel across state or international borders, federal law may be implicated if the materials, such as the computer used to download the image or the CD-ROM used to store the image, originated or previously traveled in interstate or foreign commerce.
In addition, Section 2251A of Title 18, United States Code, specifically prohibits any parent, legal guardian or other person in custody or control of a minor under the age of 18, to buy, sell, or transfer custody of that minor for purposes of producing child pornography.
Lastly, Section 2260 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits any persons outside of the United States to knowingly produce, receive, transport, ship, or distribute child pornography with intent to import or transmit the visual depiction into the United States.
Any violation of federal child pornography law is a serious crime, and convicted offenders face severe statutory penalties. For example, a first time offender convicted of producing child pornography under 18 U.S.C. § 2251, face fines and a statutory minimum of 15 years to 30 years maximum in prison. A first time offender convicted of transporting child pornography in interstate or foreign commerce under 18 U.S.C. § 2252, faces fines and a statutory minimum of 5 years to 20 years maximum in prison. Convicted offenders may face harsher penalties if the offender has prior convictions or if the child pornography offense occurred in aggravated situations defined as (i) the images are violent, sadistic, or masochistic in nature, (ii) the minor was sexually abused, or (iii) the offender has prior convictions for child sexual exploitation. In these circumstances, a convicted offender may face up to life imprisonment.
It is important to note that an offender can be prosecuted under state child pornography laws in addition to, or instead of, federal law.











I personally don't want that crap on my computer, I also don't understand why these films are consistently nominated

[Citizen Rules]

Come on Siddon don't over react. So far nothing illegal has ever been nominate, if it was I'd be the first to say it should be disqualified.https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=59409

[rauldc14]

So.....is it going to be safe for me to watch on my comp... legitimate question.....

....

[Citizen Rules]

So.....is it going to be safe for me to watch on my comp... legitimate question.....

....Yeah, and you have to watch it with the wife too;)

[edarsenal]

Same. It’s always important to not take criticism against your pick personally.
I don’t expect many to enjoy Dark City, but it is amongst my favorites regardless.
Have no fear however, I’ve seen Moonstruck and I loved it when I first watched it. I doubt anything will have changed when I review it in the next week 🙂

Thank you!! And Bravo on your outlook regarding criticism wylde!

I love your nom, Dark City and have watched it countless times and pretty happy to see it here.

Any film that can get a wide spectrum of love, like, disinterest, dislike, hate is an intriguing choice for a HoF.
I've also noticed that the more hard hitting films that incite really bring out some incredible dialogue, as Pretty Baby is doing now.
Almost the exact dialogue that it incited when it came out and I'm curious to see my own reaction when I watch it. Will I see the offense only? Will I appreciate the artistic attempt?
It is a curiosity for me, though I do know that my involvement these past couple of years in the HoFs has given me many the opportunity to test that. In particular, I'd have to thank cricket especially for that for that. (And that is heartfelt)

[Wyldesyde19]

I won the 13th HOF with Dances With Wolves. The theatrical cut of that is 3 hours long, but at least one participant watched the 4 hour extended cut, which even I haven't seen. I think if the movie is good enough, then the length won't hinder it too much.
I love Dances With Wolves 🙂

[pahaK]

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I personally don't want that crap on my computer, I also don't understand why these films are consistently nominated

So I assume you've already filed a case against Amazon then? Let me know how that goes. Also, should we perhaps ban films that are actually banned in countries other than the US too (like Call Me by Your Name which appears to be banned in China)? That sounds reasonable, right, considering you demand to ban films that actually have MPAA rating and are available on the largest US rental platform based on US child porn legislation?

And to answer your question, I personally like to nominate films that are divisive, controversial and bound to generate discussion. Of course, the most important thing in choosing my nom is that I actually like the film but the potential to cause some stir is always a bonus :D

[Wyldesyde19]

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I personally don't want that crap on my computer, I also don't understand why these films are consistently nominated

So I assume you've already filed a case against Amazon then? Let me know how that goes. Also, should we perhaps ban films that are actually banned in countries other than the US too (like Call Me by Your Name which appears to be banned in China)? That sounds reasonable, right, considering you demand to ban films that actually have MPAA rating and are available on the largest US rental platform based on US child porn legislation?

And to answer your question, I personally like to nominate films that are divisive, controversial and bound to generate discussion. Of course, the most important thing in choosing my nom is that I actually like the film but the potential to cause some stir is always a bonus :D
Along the same lines, one film I am considering nominating down the line is A Clockwork Orange. I can only imagine how Divisive that will be!

[cricket]

I think I told you in a PM that several people will hate the film due to that underaged nudity alone. I get that it's a touchy subject and obviously that controversy plays a major role in why I chose this particular film. The only thing that's surprised me this far is cricket with his demand for a ban.

Personally I have no issue with Brooke Shields on this. It's quite apparent that she (and her parents) were fine with it so who am I to judge. I'm a firm believer in artistic freedom and I also think that individuals should be free to do as they choose as long as they don't harm others (again, moral annoyance isn't harming).

Oh no, sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean it should be banned from the HoF. I meant legally it probably shouldn't exist at all.

[Citizen Rules]

Along the same lines, one film I am considering nominating down the line is A Clockwork Orange. I can only imagine how Divisive that will be!I choose that as a film to watch in a college class. Damn the entire class hated me after that! BUT lots of MoFos love A Clockwork Orange. If you believe it's worthy of consideration as a inductee into the Hall of Fame, go for it. I

[Wyldesyde19]

So.....is it going to be safe for me to watch on my comp... legitimate question.....

....Yeah, and you have to watch it with the wife too;)
I know this was a serious question but I had to chuckle reading these. 😆

[Citizen Rules]

I know this was a serious question but I had to chuckle reading these. 😆Hey:p I'm watching it with my wife. I already said we'd watch Pretty Baby tonight.

[Wyldesyde19]

Along the same lines, one film I am considering nominating down the line is A Clockwork Orange. I can only imagine how Divisive that will be!I choose that as a film to watch in a college class. Damn the entire class hated me after that! BUT lots of MoFos love A Clockwork Orange. If you believe it's worthy of consideration as a inductee into the Hall of Fame, go for it. I

I first watched in HS and was enthralled by it. I’ve seen so many times. Definitely will get a nomination in the future

[pahaK]

Oh no, sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean it should be banned from the HoF. I meant legally it probably shouldn't exist at all.

I understood what you were saying. That's why I was so confused and surprised.

[cricket]

I understood what you were saying. That's why I was so confused and surprised.

It's just based on what I thought the laws were.

[Siddon]

I come on Siddon don't over react.


Okay Harvey Weinstein

[Citizen Rules]

Okay Harvey Weinstein








Here you go Siddon, just download this and after watching Pretty Baby run it on your computer;)
http://eraser.heidi.ie/

[cricket]

Here you go Siddon, just download this and after watching Pretty Baby run it on your computer;)
http://eraser.heidi.ie/

Okay Epstein!

[Citizen Rules]

Pfft!:p

[Miss Vicky]

For the record, while I don't think this particular film should've passed muster from a legal standpoint, I'm not in favor of automatically banning films with child nudity, or any other objectionable content, from the HOF.

There are a lot of films that I, under other circumstances, will refuse to watch. In particular, I object to films that contain actual acts of animal cruelty and normally avoid them. However, I understand that there is a risk of having to watch such films in order to participate in the Hall of Fame. I handle this by avoiding HOFs where that risk is increased (such as Horror and Western specialty HOFs) and by giving them an automatic last place ranking on my ballot when they are nominated in general HOFs.

I will likely do the same for Pretty Baby here.

Along the same lines, one film I am considering nominating down the line is A Clockwork Orange. I can only imagine how Divisive that will be!

Oh no. F***ing Kubrick. :rolleyes:

[pahaK]

It's just based on what I thought the laws were.

Oh, then I may have actually misunderstood your point.

[ahwell]

A Clockwork Orange is also something I’ve considered nominating. It’s an amazing movie.

Wow, lots of Pretty Baby talk... not sure if I should comment or not.

[CosmicRunaway]

I'm surprised there are no movies pre-1978. There seems to be a lot of recentcy bias to the HOFs lately :)
If I had joined I guess there would've been one earlier film nominated since the two I considered were both noirs. I didn't get a chance to rewatch either though, which is why I'm just loitering in the thread.

I won the 13th HOF with Dances With Wolves. The theatrical cut of that is 3 hours long, but at least one participant watched the 4 hour extended cut, which even I haven't seen.
I watched the extended edition for the HoF, and most of my favourite parts were only in that version. So you should definitely check it out at some point, provided you have the time.

[pahaK]

I watched the extended edition for the HoF, and most of my favourite parts were only in that version. So you should definitely check it out at some point, provided you have the time.

I'm definitely going to rewatch Dances with Wolves before the western countdown, and it's going to be the extended edition (only seen the theatrical cut before).

[edarsenal]

If I had joined I guess there would've been one earlier film nominated since the two I considered were both noirs. I didn't get a chance to rewatch either though, which is why I'm just loitering in the thread.


I watched the extended edition for the HoF, and most of my favourite parts were only in that version. So you should definitely check it out at some point, provided you have the time.

I'm definitely going to rewatch Dances with Wolves before the western countdown, and it's going to be the extended edition (only seen the theatrical cut before).
I was another who watched the extended version. Love this movie and I actually waited til I could locate a copy of the extended and was so very happy that I did.

[Citizen Rules]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=59419
Moonstruck (1987)

I'd seen this once before but totally forgot it...that's my life's story, ha. So it was good to rewatch and I liked it, I guess. I certainly don't have any big complaints or anything. I haven't seen Cher in much of anything so I was surprised at just how good she was and how much I liked her in this. I liked Nicolas Cage too, he even had hair here. Olympia Dukakis was good of course. Though, I thought Vincent Gardenia as her husband was a poor casting choice. He had no screen presences. Danny Aiello's character didn't do much for me either. But I did like John Mahoney. Mahoney was great in every scene he was in.

The other thing I liked about Moonstruck was it didn't try to go to big, or for to many laughs. Instead it took an even pace. It was also a big plus seeing the sights and streets of New York, and the way this was filmed made it feel like a personal story.

[cricket]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=59419
Moonstruck (1987)

I'd seen this once before but totally forgot it...that's my life's story, ha. So it was good to rewatch and I liked it, I guess. I certainly don't have any big complaints or anything. I haven't seen Cher in much of anything so I was surprised at just how good she was and how much I liked her in this. I liked Nicolas Cage too, he even had hair here. Olympia Dukakis was good of course. Though, I thought Vincent Gardenia as her husband was a poor casting choice. He had no screen presences. Danny Aiello's character didn't do much for me either. But I did like John Mahoney. Mahoney was great in every scene he was in.

The other thing I liked about Moonstruck was it didn't try to go to big, or for to many laughs. Instead it took an even pace. It was also a big plus seeing the sights and streets of New York, and the way this was filmed made it feel like a personal story.




She hasn't starred in much but she was really great. Check out Mask if you haven't already.

[Citizen Rules]

She hasn't starred in much but she was really great. Check out Mask if you haven't already.I seen Mask when it came out, and yeah it was great. I seen her in the Witches of Eastwick but that too was so long ago I don't really remember it.

[Wyldesyde19]

She hasn't starred in much but she was really great. Check out Mask if you haven't already.I seen Mask when it came out, and yeah it was great. I seen her in the Witches of Eastwick but that too was so long ago I don't really remember it.
There’s also Silkwood, Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean, and Mermaids to consider. I have not seen them yet, so I couldn’t tell you how good they are

[Miss Vicky]

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MovieLog/pride.gif

Pride (Matthew Warcus, 2014)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3169706/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Date Watched: 01/04/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 21st MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by TheUsualSuspect
Rewatch: No.

Somehow I don't think I'd ever heard of this film prior to its nomination here. As a general rule, I try to avoid live-action films that can be described as "heartwarming." I'm all for emotional movies, but I favor the ones that make me cry from sadness, not joy.

Pride had me shedding tears of both kinds and it did warm my bitter little heart. As per usual, I'm not at all familiar with the actual history behind this story and I don't really care to know. What I do know and what I do care about is that it features some very heartfelt and funny performances and a really engaging story.

It's not without its flaws though as it does get pretty silly at times - even to the point where it's a bit difficult to suspend disbelief - but overall it succeeds admirably in telling a sweet and easily relatable story of love, acceptance, and an unlikely alliance.

4+

[gbgoodies]

Pixote - nom'd Cricket
Child Bride - nom'd Pahak


I would like a no underage nudity rule in future Hall of Fames, this is the third time it's happened in the last 18 months

come on Siddon don't over react. So far nothing illegal has ever been nominate, if it was I'd be the first to say it should be disqualified.


I don't think Siddon is overreacting. I've said before that there should be limitations on what can be nominated in some of these HoFs, but I was bashed so hard for suggesting this that I ended up leaving the forum for a few months to get away from the pummeling that I got.

People should realize that there are movies that just shouldn't be nominated in certain HoFs, even general HoFs. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be nominated at all, but there's a right and wrong place and time to nominate certain movies. If someone wants to nominate a movie that has been banned in some countries, maybe they should start a Banned Movies HoF, and let the people who are interested in watching those movies join that HoF. Nobody should ever be required to watch a movie that isn't suitable for the general public, or just doesn't belong in a specific genre HoF.

And now, since I didn't join this HoF, I'm done adding my opinion. I'm not going to respond to any rude or obnoxious replies to my opinion because I have no interest in this becoming another knock-down brawl. I just wanted to add my thoughts because I think Siddon should know that he's not alone in his belief that these types of movies don't belong in a general HoF.


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[Citizen Rules]

... I think Siddon should know that he's not alone in his belief that these types of movies don't belong in a general HoF... If Siddon, or anyone else is offended by a R rated mainstream movie nomination, that was released nation wide in America and is currently available from Amazon and other legit streaming sites, then they should just drop out.

I mean people drop out all the time anyway. But if they are going to drop out for ethical reasons, then they need to do so at the beginning of the HoF and tell everyone that they have dropped out. Under those circumstances I wouldn't complain if some one chose to quit for ethical reasons.

[Wyldesyde19]

Pixote - nom'd Cricket
Child Bride - nom'd Pahak


I would like a no underage nudity rule in future Hall of Fames, this is the third time it's happened in the last 18 months

come on Siddon don't over react. So far nothing illegal has ever been nominate, if it was I'd be the first to say it should be disqualified.


I don't think Siddon is overreacting. I've said before that there should be limitations on what can be nominated in some of these HoFs, but I was bashed so hard for suggesting this that I ended up leaving the forum for a few months to get away from the pummeling that I got.

People should realize that there are movies that just shouldn't be nominated in certain HoFs, even general HoFs. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be nominated at all, but there's a right and wrong place and time to nominate certain movies. If someone wants to nominate a movie that has been banned in some countries, maybe they should start a Banned Movies HoF, and let the people who are interested in watching those movies join that HoF. Nobody should ever be required to watch a movie that isn't suitable for the general public, or just doesn't belong in a specific genre HoF.

And now, since I didn't join this HoF, I'm done adding my opinion. I'm not going to respond to any rude or obnoxious replies to my opinion because I have no interest in this becoming another knock-down brawl. I just wanted to add my thoughts because I think Siddon should know that he's not alone in his belief that these types of movies don't belong in a general HoF.


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I have yet to watch it, so I can’t comment on it myself, but I really hope we don’t resort to banning certain films due to subject matter.
I agree discretion should be exorcised when nominating a film, however. Problem is, I’d hate for limits to be implemented, but I’d also hate for some people to not join as a result of a controversial nomination that made them uncomfortable.
Maybe something can be done in the future to help curtail this before hand? I’d hate for this to divide the HOF and lead to non participation.
Rather then dismiss each other’s opinions, take it into account and learn for future HOFs. Maybe check with someone, like the host and think about if it’s worthwhile. There’s a lot of other, worthy films out there afterall.

[Citizen Rules]

There's always been movies that have irked people or been controversial. It's not going to be a problem and it's not dividing anyone and HoFs will go on, actually it's good to have some conversation for a change. If anything repetition and boredom is more of a problem.

[Wyldesyde19]

There's always been movies that have irked people or been controversial. It's not going to be a problem and it's not dividing anyone and HoFs will go on, actually it's good to have some conversation for a change. If anything repetition and boredom is more of a problem.

My next nomination will Garbage Pail Kids the Movie. Everyone suffers.

[TheUsualSuspect]

What is more inappropriate:

The nudity in Pretty Baby or the nudity in American Beauty?

[Wyldesyde19]

What is more inappropriate:

The nudity in Pretty Baby or the nudity in American Beauty?
That’s a good question. Thora Birch was born in 1982, and American Beauty was released in 1999. So she would have been 16 or 17 when she did her topless scene?

[CosmicRunaway]

If someone wants to nominate a movie that has been banned in some countries, maybe they should start a Banned Movies HoF, and let the people who are interested in watching those movies join that HoF. Nobody should ever be required to watch a movie that isn't suitable for the general public, or just doesn't belong in a specific genre HoF.
Even if most of the regular HoF participants wanted to, the problem with adding a rule to exclude "banned films" is that many countries will ban or edit films for reasons that general audiences in Western countries would not find offensive. We'd need to consider the context of each individual ban. For example, Christopher Robin is banned in China because people online had previously compared Xi Jinping to cartoon images of Winnie the Pooh, but that film's existence would not cause any controversy here.

Films like Back to the Future, Battleship Potemkin, Brokeback Mountain, The Great Dictator, Persepolis, Raise the Red Lantern, and Waltz with Bashir that have all been nominated in previous (or ongoing) HoFs would have been excluded with a blanket "no banned films" rule.

[neiba]

People should realize that there are movies that just shouldn't be nominated in certain HoFs, even general HoFs. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be nominated at all, but there's a right and wrong place and time to nominate certain movies. If someone wants to nominate a movie that has been banned in some countries, maybe they should start a Banned Movies HoF, and let the people who are interested in watching those movies join that HoF. Nobody should ever be required to watch a movie that isn't suitable for the general public, or just doesn't belong in a specific genre HoF.

Ya, let's cover the nudity on greek statues because Iran doesn't like it. Let's censor or stop consuming art because some government thought it would be unapropriate. That went well in the past.
People in these HoFs are very different tastes, and that's part of the magic, because they show a huge array of films. Sometimes something will offend you, or you will simply hate it but you still watch it out of respect to the other person's choice and taste. The same way Miss Vicky hated The Music Man but she still made the effort. You have the right to be offended of course, you don't have the right to ban when it doesn't offend others.

With that being said, I liked Pretty Baby and I'll write my thoughts about it later, and while I understand the directors vision to it, and how he wanted to portray this innocent girl being subjected to a horrible life I think he could have been more subtle about it. It doesn't shock me, but the film would actually gain from it, I think. Like the first scene when she's naked in the bed after losing her virginity. You never see anything, there's nothing wrong with it but you still get the idea, and you feel as if you actually saw her exposed, and that's good.. The following scene in the bath, while I understand it, it's not really necessary. It's more of a matter of artistic taste that makes me unlike that scene.

As for the more blatant one, again, I understand where he is going with that, but again, the actress could have been protected. You can suggest without showing. But he wanted to increase the shock effect and make people understand the kids that were born in whorehouses were not kids anymore... That is smthing I can respect, even if I don't agree with the way he showed it.

[neiba]

Pretty Baby (1978)

So there's been a lot of talk about this film and I already spoke a little bit about it in the previous comment but here's a proper write-up.

Violet is a girl who grows up in a brothel. The only reality she knows is that. Her ideas of Love, Family and even children's plays are distorted by her own reality. She's 12 when she first loses her virginity, sold by the Madame. She takes it naturally because that's what she learned to do by seeing her mother and the other prostitutes. This happened very very often, and art has looked at this stories more than often. Every other cabaret song tells a story similar to this one. So, how would a director portray it? How would you show that these kids are not kids anymore, but they aren't exactly adults either?

I don't think Malle could have used an 18 year old girl. It's simply not believable that an 18 year old girl passes by a 12 year old, and it's pretty obvious that Malle wanted us to see a child here, or else the effect of the film would be lost. It's not the same as Lolita for instance, who in Kubrick becomes a 16 year old femme fatale, even if Nabokov writes it as a 12 year old.

And this dichotomy is, for me, the best thing about this film and that Malle nails perfectly. The cinematography is also very very good, and the perfomance by the young Brooke Shields is marvelous.

Now, about the nude scenes... As I said before, there are ways to suggest nudity without actually showing nudity, and perhaps the film could have gained with a little more subtleness. The first semi nude scene, I thought it was beautifully shot and it worked. You saw her fragile and exposed while actually not seeing her naked. There are a couple of more where this happens and I feel the director could have gone more often to it.

Then she appears taking bath and you see a frontal shot of her topless. My first thought was: well, this is totally unnecessary. But then I realized: what I think Malle is trying to do is to show she's now one of the prostitutes so there's no limit to what she can show. We had seen her mother taking a bath fully naked before with the door open, so to show Violet following her steps works well. And the fact that she first covers herself when she realizes someone's entering the bathroom tells us she's still not used to the rules of the game. She eventually gets used to it as we see her again later taking a bath with no problems in being seen. This is important for the character arch. Now, did Malle have to show her topless? That can be discussed. I understand why he didn't but I'd understand also a contrary opinion. Ultimately, it's the director's and the actress' (and her family) choice and here it appears everyone was on board.

Then you have a more blatant nude scene when she's being photographed fully naked. I understand this letting people uncomfortable, but I think Malle was again trying to show how she had lost any kind of taboo about her body. The fact that people think it's wrong actually works in favour of the film because the stories that inspire these films are in fact morally wrong and no kid should be subjected to this, and that's what I think the film is trying to convey.

Louis Malle could have chosen another way of dealing with this subject. He went with his view and it works. To be honest I felt more uncomfortable watching Leon than this. I don't think films like these should be banned. Malle was a fine director and this is a very solid film.

3.5

[Miss Vicky]

Yeah, no. When you sign up for a HOF - ANY HOF - you do so while acknowledging the risk that you may have to watch movies with content that you find objectionable or just difficult to watch. Whether it's child nudity, animal abuse, or - such as in the fight gbg is referring to - a horror comedy with cartoon violence and gore. If you can't accept that risk, either don't participate or wait until just after the nominations are announced then research each nomination and then make a decision whether or not to join.

BTW, the copy of Pretty Baby I watched came from my local library. I don't think the cops are going to raid them for kiddie porn.

My next nomination will Garbage Pail Kids the Movie. Everyone suffers.

I'll take that over Kubrick.

[Miss Vicky]

I don't think Malle could have used an 18 year old girl. It's simply not believable that an 18 year old girl passes by a 12 year old, and it's pretty obvious that Malle wanted us to see a child here.

I beg to differ. There are plenty of short, baby-faced, flat-chested women in the world. They're not hard to find.

Having been an 18 year old girl myself and having seen plenty of other 18 year old girls' bodies in the gym locker room, I can assure you there were plenty of them just at my high school.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Ellen Page was 18 when she portrayed a 14 year old in Hard Candy.

[rauldc14]

Since everyone's doing it I'll watch Pretty Baby first. Possibly tomorrow, or Tuesday worst case.

[Citizen Rules]

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Pretty Baby (1978)

I thought this was a pretty darn good movie and I was surprised by just how well made it was. My wife liked the movie too and she usually likes mainly G or PG type movies. I think both of us were expecting the worst after hearing about the controversy that surrounded Pretty Baby. But to our surprise, Pretty Baby was an introspective look into the world of the women who worked in New Orleans brothels at the turn of the 20th century.

The movie does world building quite well and we see in detail the inner workings of a brothel and from the women's viewpoint. Had this been made by another director the story might have been focused on a man's point of view, and the 'whores' would've been nameless bodies with no real value to the film. So many films are made from the male only viewpoint, leaving the stories of women in the shadows, but not Pretty Baby.

Brooke Shields did an excellent acting job as a young girl entering puberty...and entering rather nonchalantly into the world of a prostitute. The script brilliantly handles what happens to young girls who become sexualizied at a too young of age. It's an honest description of how being exposed causes young Violent to act out overtly sexual, when she's clearly not old enough to be doing so. Most of what she does is in the form of boasting and trying to be grown up. The most clear example of that is when she tries to force a younger boy to have sex with her and is stopped by the boys mother with the warning that whites and blacks don't mix. At the end of the film her mother and new husband comes to retrieve Violent who's now married to the adult photographer. The film reinforces to the viewer that Violent despite her upbringing is still a child who wants only to be with her mother. I liked that the film never builds Spielberg like sympathy for these characters and neither does it demonize them...it simply shows us the end results.

There are a lot of deep themes in Pretty Baby about the damage that sex abuse causes to women. It's too bad a couple brief semi nude scenes of Brooke Shields has overshadowed an important movie.

rating_4

[Miss Vicky]

What is more inappropriate:

The nudity in Pretty Baby or the nudity in American Beauty?

Neither should have been allowed, but I do think American Beauty's is somewhat less egregious as 16 and 17 year olds are at least past puberty and many are already sexually active at that age.

But again, I don't think either is okay.

[neiba]

Ellen Page was 18 when she portrayed a 14 year old in Hard Candy.

Yeah, and when compared to Brooke Shields on this, she looks 18. I am sorry, but in my opinion, it's not the same thing. A 12 year old is a 12 year old, you can't fake it.

[Miss Vicky]

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Moonstruck (Norman Jewison, 1987)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093565/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Date Watched: 01/05/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 21st MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by edarsenal
Rewatch: Yes.

One of these days I might watch an edarsenal nomination and really love it and be thankful for having been exposed to it. Today is not that day.

Granted, this is technically a rewatch. I'd seen it a few times as a child, but I remembered almost nothing about it so it might as well have been the first time. Now, don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the film. The story was fine. The performances were fine. It looked good. It had a nice soundtrack. But damn were those people f***ing annoying and I didn't give a crap about any of them. I just don't get the appeal of watching a bunch of loud-mouthed, superstitious, and overly dramatic people fight with and cheat on each other.

But I suppose it could've been worse. There weren't any naked kids at least.

3-

[rauldc14]

By the time I get started I'll be talking to myself in here.

[gbgoodies]

If Siddon, or anyone else is offended by a R rated mainstream movie nomination, that was released nation wide in America and is currently available from Amazon and other legit streaming sites, then they should just drop out.

I mean people drop out all the time anyway. But if they are going to drop out for ethical reasons, then they need to do so at the beginning of the HoF and tell everyone that they have dropped out. Under those circumstances I wouldn't complain if some one chose to quit for ethical reasons.


I understand what you're saying about dropping out, but someone shouldn't be forced to drop out of a HoF because they are being forced to watch a movie that shouldn't be in that HoF anyway.

I dropped out of a Comedy HoF, that I had been looking forward to participating in, because someone nominated a horror movie that was called "the bloodiest movie ever made", and it was banned in several countries due to excessive gore. I'm not objecting to a random horror comedy movie being nominated in Comedy HoF if it's legitimately a comedy, but that movie was just too extreme. It should have been nominated in one of the Horror HoFs or Slasher HoFs, not a Comedy HoF.

The point that I'm trying to make is that there's a limit to what should be allowed in certain HoFs, and IMO that movie crossed the line.

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[Wyldesyde19]

By the time I get started I'll be talking to myself in here.
Nah, I’ll be doing the bulk of these during February. I still have to finish Comedy and Western first. I’ll probably squeeze a few here and there, but it’ll be mostly later

[gbgoodies]

I have yet to watch it, so I can’t comment on it myself, but I really hope we don’t resort to banning certain films due to subject matter.


I haven't watched Pretty Baby either, so I'm not talking about banning that specific movie.

I'm not even talking about banning any movies from the HoFs. I'm just saying that certain movies that are too extreme for some reason belong in specific HoFs, so that people who don't want to watch those types of movies aren't forced to either watch them or drop out of the HoF when the nominations are announced.


I agree discretion should be exorcised when nominating a film, however. Problem is, I’d hate for limits to be implemented, but I’d also hate for some people to not join as a result of a controversial nomination that made them uncomfortable.
Maybe something can be done in the future to help curtail this before hand? I’d hate for this to divide the HOF and lead to non participation.
Rather then dismiss each other’s opinions, take it into account and learn for future HOFs. Maybe check with someone, like the host and think about if it’s worthwhile. There’s a lot of other, worthy films out there afterall.


Unfortunately for me, it has already affected my participation. Before that Comedy HoF, I used to join a bunch of HoFs, including the General HoFs. Since then, I've pretty much stopped joining the HoFs unless they are "safe" HoFs. I can probably count the number of HoFs that I've joined since then on one hand.

You weren't here back then, but I tried asking for some type of rules to make the movies that are nominated appropriate for specific HoFs, but I got bashed so hard that I left the forum for a while to get away from the fighting.

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[gbgoodies]

Even if most of the regular HoF participants wanted to, the problem with adding a rule to exclude "banned films" is that many countries will ban or edit films for reasons that general audiences in Western countries would not find offensive. We'd need to consider the context of each individual ban. For example, Christopher Robin is banned in China because people online had previously compared Xi Jinping to cartoon images of Winnie the Pooh, but that film's existence would not cause any controversy here.

Films like Back to the Future, Battleship Potemkin, Brokeback Mountain, The Great Dictator, Persepolis, Raise the Red Lantern, and Waltz with Bashir that have all been nominated in previous (or ongoing) HoFs would have been excluded with a blanket "no banned films" rule.


I'm not talking about banning all movies that have been banned somewhere. I'm just saying that movies that have a valid reason for being too extreme or offensive shouldn't be allowed in some HoFs. There should be a limit to what is allowed, and if someone nominates a movie that is offensive for a legitimate reason, then maybe they should be asked to change their nomination for that HoF, rather than expecting someone to drop out because of something that's not their fault.

[gbgoodies]

Ya, let's cover the nudity on greek statues because Iran doesn't like it. Let's censor or stop consuming art because some government thought it would be unapropriate. That went well in the past.
People in these HoFs are very different tastes, and that's part of the magic, because they show a huge array of films. Sometimes something will offend you, or you will simply hate it but you still watch it out of respect to the other person's choice and taste. The same way Miss Vicky hated The Music Man but she still made the effort. You have the right to be offended of course, you don't have the right to ban when it doesn't offend others.


I never said to ban movies with nudity in them, or movies that some people hate. I watched a movie in a past HoF that I hated, and I rated it zero stars, but I never complained about it being nominated.

This is only about putting certain movies in the right HoFs, not outright banning anything.

[gbgoodies]

Yeah, no. When you sign up for a HOF - ANY HOF - you do so while acknowledging the risk that you may have to watch movies with content that you find objectionable or just difficult to watch. Whether it's child nudity, animal abuse, or - such as in the fight gbg is referring to - a horror comedy with cartoon violence and gore. If you can't accept that risk, either don't participate or wait until just after the nominations are announced then research each nomination and then make a decision whether or not to join.


That wasn't just a random horror movie. That was an extremely gory movie that had been banned in several countries for excessive gore. It did not belong in a Comedy HoF. Within minutes of the nominations being posted, there were even comments from other people about how much I would hate that movie, so it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that I was upset about that nomination.

But I never asked for it to be removed from that HoF. I just immediately dropped out of the HoF. Then I tried to get people to understand why I was upset about it, and make simple changes so that type of situation wouldn't happen again, but everyone, (except SC), was against me, so I dropped it. And now we're back in that situation again because someone else is upset about a similar issue.

[gbgoodies]

Hopefully I've made my point clear. I'm backing out of this thread now so that you can all enjoy your HoF without this controversy.

[pahaK]

I'm not talking about banning all movies that have been banned somewhere. I'm just saying that movies that have a valid reason for being too extreme or offensive shouldn't be allowed in some HoFs. There should be a limit to what is allowed, and if someone nominates a movie that is offensive for a legitimate reason, then maybe they should be asked to change their nomination for that HoF, rather than expecting someone to drop out because of something that's not their fault.

The problem here is the obvious fact that different people are "legitimately" offended by different things. I'm well aware that my threshold for being offended is considerably higher than average but regardless of that, I'd find it very questionable to ban widely available R-rated films from any HoF (except something wildly hypothetical like PG HoF).

Disqualifying films due to their offensive nature is a very slippery slope. In addition to this Pretty Baby debate you've already mentioned violence but where do we draw the line? Blasphemy could easily offend the believers, racial slurs and racism seem to be a no go today and extensive cursing surely makes some people blush.

In my opinion, entering any Hall of Fame means a possible requirement to watch something I don't like. I accept that and, as far as I've understood, so do most of the other participants. I really don't see a need to change that. I just don't see being offended such a big deal.

[Miss Vicky]

Put simply, the day we start banning controversial films - for any reason- is the day I quit being a participant. Full stop.

[pahaK]

Oh, I almost forgot that I also watched Being There today. After reading the description on IMDb I wasn't expecting much so at least I can't complain about not meeting my expectations. I'll try to write a review in a few days.

[Miss Vicky]

Disqualifying films due to their offensive nature is a very slippery slope. In addition to this Pretty Baby debate you've already mentioned violence but where do we draw the line? Blasphemy could easily offend the believers, racial slurs and racism seem to be a no go today and extensive cursing surely makes some people blush.

Not to mention the such horribly offensive/sinful things as promiscuity and homosexual relations.

Yeah. Don't want to watch certain types of films? Wait until the nominations have been announced, research them, and then make a decision about whether you wish to participate or not. Allowing late entries seems to have become the norm anyway.

[CosmicRunaway]

I'm well aware that my threshold for being offended is considerably higher than average but regardless of that, I'd find it very questionable to ban widely available R-rated films from any HoF (except something wildly hypothetical like PG HoF).
The majority of R-rated films in the US end up being 14A here instead of 18A anyway, so even between English-speaking countries there's clearly a difference in what general audiences will find acceptable. Whenever someone mentions a film being rated R I always wonder if it's a "real R" or a PG-13 with 1 too many swear words. The rating is basically meaningless to me haha.

Now that you mention it though, I could see a "Family/Children's Films" HoF existing. I wouldn't participate, but it's a plausible HOF idea.

[rauldc14]

Put simply, the day we start banning controversial films - for any reason- is the day I quit being a participant. Full stop.

I don't think anybody is pro-ban though, and surely not enough to make it actually happen.

[neiba]

Put simply, the day we start banning controversial films - for any reason- is the day I quit being a participant. Full stop.

Ditto.

[neiba]

Being there might be one of the most soothing and calming films I've ever seen xD All hail Peter Sellers! What a terrific performance!

[rauldc14]

Pretty Baby

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I figured like others since this was so "controversial" I would start with it. I definitely think that those "scenes" really had no place in a film like this and I felt rather creepy even seeing things like that which obviously have no place in film, and certainly no place in today's standards. Even '78 seems a bit late for nudity like that but who am I to judge on these matters.

The film as a whole though really doesn't do anything for me either. The performances really aren't that good. I'm not trying to dog Brooke Shields at all but when you have the best performance in the film at only 12 years old and run circles around your fellow actors and actresses that were also part of the film, that can't be a good thing. Of course there's a few Brooklyn Prince sort of performances in films that make it great but Florida Project also had Dafoe if you catch my drift. Sarandon and Carradine really didn't bring much at all to the film for me.

Plus, I just wasn't convinced on the relationship of Carradine and Shields anyways. If I was I suppose it would have made the film quite creepy, so I'm not really sure what to think of that anyways.

I'll just leave it as a film that wasn't completely terrible yet it didn't do anything for me and will end up being quite forgettable.

2

A shame because the last Hall of Fame I didn't rate anything under a 3

[neiba]

Being There (1979)


This film has a simply but somewhat risky premise. The fact that the main character is somewhat retarded and still manages to fool so many people to the point he is considered for being president of the United States only works if the script is clever and takes the ideia seriously (or if you're George W. Bush :D)

By not making every statement of Chauncey into a supposedly clever one, rather waiting for the right time, the film becomes credible and the premise is supported well enough. The rest, is a magnificent perfomance by Peter Sellers. It's not easy to be as detached as Chauncey demanded Sellers to be, but he excells on it. The result is that we start loving Chauncey and feeling good everytime he is on screen, exactly how all the other characters felt around him.

I found myself smiling peacefully as the film was ending (and what beautiful and clever last shot that was) and I think that was the entire purpose of it.

3.5 +

[rauldc14]

Just an FYI ahwell some of the links of the front page aren't linking to the posts.

[ahwell]

Just an FYI ahwell some of the links of the front page aren't linking to the posts.
Yeah, I know, I just add them until I have to time to go on Desktop mode and add them properly.

[edarsenal]

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Moonstruck (Norman Jewison, 1987)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093565/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Date Watched: 01/05/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 21st MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by edarsenal
Rewatch: Yes.

One of these days I might watch an edarsenal nomination and really love it and be thankful for having been exposed to it. Today is not that day.

And when that day comes, you and I are buying lottery tickets and hitting the HUGE jackpot! LOL

[Siddon]

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A wonderful blend of silent era noir and cutting edge CGI gives us 1998's Dark City. The film features a collective of strong actors from Ian Richardson, Jennifer Connely, and William Hurt are all very strong as Rufus Sewell runs through this permanently night world. One of the things I really like about CGI from this era is that the story works around the effects not the other way around. Playing around with the new toys doesn't always work some of the scenes are laughly bad looking at it 20 years later. But what does work is the world still feels so beautiful because it's not just CGI but practical effects and solid artistry.


The film is not all good though...the biggest weak spot is Keifer Sutherland doing a horrible Peter Lorre impersonation. Every line reading is filled with an asthma attack that when we get the dreamscape scene where Sutherland acts normally it just makes the early 3/4ths of the film weaker. I also wish William Hurt's character was the lead as I found him to be a much more compelling figure than Sewell. For my noir picks I always prefer the detective putting the story together over the man on the run. And while the film does fall apart in the final act with CGI that is just horrible (Star-ship Troopers and Event Horizon came out a year earlier and they got space shots right) this was still a pleasant revisit and watch for me.

[Wyldesyde19]

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A wonderful blend of silent era noir and cutting edge CGI gives us 1998's Dark City. The film features a collective of strong actors from Ian Richardson, Jennifer Connely, and William Hurt are all very strong as Rufus Sewell runs through this permanently night world. One of the things I really like about CGI from this era is that the story works around the effects not the other way around. Playing around with the new toys doesn't always work some of the scenes are laughly bad looking at it 20 years later. But what does work is the world still feels so beautiful because it's not just CGI but practical effects and solid artistry.


The film is not all good though...the biggest weak spot is Keifer Sutherland doing a horrible Peter Lorre impersonation. Every line reading is filled with an asthma attack that when we get the dreamscape scene where Sutherland acts normally it just makes the early 3/4ths of the film weaker. I also wish William Hurt's character was the lead as I found him to be a much more compelling figure than Sewell. For my noir picks I always prefer the detective putting the story together over the man on the run. And while the film does fall apart in the final act with CGI that is just horrible (Star-ship Troopers and Event Horizon came out a year earlier and they got space shots right) this was still a pleasant revisit and watch for me.
Keifer Sutherland was a weak spot in regards to his acting. Like he was always gasping for air when ever he delivered his lines.
Other then that, the film was amazing

[neiba]

Tree of Life (2011)

There aren't many films of the last 20 years that I'd consider as classics. Tree of Life is one hell of an exception. Much like Stalker or 2001: A Space Odissey it achieves a level of intellectual and spiritual depth that can only be aspired by a few directors working today.

The story is like a trip to Jack's memory, and how his father and mother made him the man he used to be. Behind all this there's a search for the meaning of life and a constant relation with deity.
I'd divide this into 4 chapters: the introduction, where we know of Jack's brother death and how that triggers the spiritual travel Jack will do; the Universe sequence, in a sense similar to the dream sequence of 2001 but with a completley different purpose. It's perhaps the most beautiful chapter of the film with stunning visuals and a beautiful soundtrack. While it's not apparently connected to the rest of the film, I think it's there to give us a particular state of mind to what is going to happen next and that's reason enough for me to love it; the core of the story, where we witness Jack's childhood and how Nature (represented by his Father) and Grace (his mother) made him into the person he is; and the Conclusion which I think is there to show how Heaven should be, with all the people he loved being there and how it was Grace (represented by his Mother) the one who would take him there. There's also a strong comparison between the masculine and feminine sides of the world, which is something that has interested me for quite a while!
The cinematography (Lubezki ) and the soundtrack are simply mindblowing, the acting is great by everyone involved but it's the vision that matters here, the same way Kubrick's vision is the core of 2001.

4 +

[TheUsualSuspect]

Dark City

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5

No need to tell me to revisit one of my favourite films of all-time...but I'll also throw in that Dark City is one of the best sci/fi films of all-time.

Proyas blends a creepy film noir with futuristic science fiction in this dark and engaging mystery. This film should be seen by more people in general. Despite a wonky third act involving mean stares and water ripple psychic energy blasts, Dark City has few faults (for me). The Strangers are creepy, effective villains that want to play Doll House with our lives.

The miniatures, the practical effects, the atmosphere, everything works well blending together to create a "masterpiece". I'll admit, this is not a perfect film, but it is a perfect film for me.

Roger Ebert has only done a few commentaries for films and this is one of them. He championed it back in the 90's and I'd suggest people give it a listen.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Tree of Life

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3.5

If I were to make a time capsule and put 5 films in; Tree of Life would make that list. Not because I like the film, or because I think it's some kind of brilliant achievement. I'd put it there because it captures something very few films do. It captures a time in human history that can't be experienced anymore. Say what you will about the beginning and ending of this movie, but the slices of life moments in-between are some stunning filmmaking.

What this movie means to me and what it means to you can be two completely different things, it most definitely means something else entirely to Malick and I'd go on record saying this is his best film. He might have let those types of accolades get to his head because his camera work has been trying to recapture that lightning in a bottle moment he had on Tree of Life. His floating "spying" on life essence here doesn't translate well to his other works. The exception might be The Thin Red Line.

Tree of Life is an astounding film, but one that lacks so many things as well. It's hard to put this film is a box...unless that box is a time capsule of course.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Wedding Crashers

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3

Would a film where a man sexually assaults a woman be played for laughs? No? Then I don't see why a sexual assault against a man seems to be okay. Back in the mid 2000's though, it was hilarious.....right?

Wedding Crashers is a film that I do find funny. Seeing Bradley Cooper play a jerk before he became famous is fun and Rachel McAdams is stunningly beautiful as always. She has the down to Earth charm about her that makes every film she is in at the very least...watchable.

Wilson and Vaughn have great chemistry together, this is obvious. They tried to recapture that glory with The Internship and that film didn't seem to ignite any laughs. Wedding Crashers does though and I can totally see why. Raunchy comedies are a love it or hate it variety and I oddly enough find myself in the middle.

On a side note: My wife saw this film multiple times with an ex-boyfriend....after they broke up. Maybe that has a hand in my opinion on this piece. :p

[ahwell]

Moonstruck

Coincidence! In my orchestra I’m playing a piece from the opera in this movie, La Boheme! The fact of the matter is, I probably like the opera more than this movie. But still, quite the charming little film. It’s not a masterpiece, but Nic Cage gives a fine performance and we have that feel-good warmth that just makes me fall in love with all the characters.

Not hilarious anymore, but still good for a chuckle or two.

3+

[ahwell]

The Breakfast Club

The quintessential teen movie, John Hughes just did it best. This is a smart movie that begins as a light romp in which a "bad kid" makes the best out of a Saturday detention. Then John Hughes challenges us to look beyond the surface, and explores each characters as they deal with their own problems in life.

It is a fascinating character study, well written, funny, and provocative. Not sure if it will be a huge favorite but I'm really glad I watched it and I'll likely return to it in the future.

4-

[neiba]

Moonstruck

Coincidence! In my orchestra I’m playing a piece from the opera in this movie, La Boheme! The fact of the matter is, I probably like the opera more than this movie. But still, quite the charming little film. It’s not a masterpiece, but Nic Cage gives a fine performance and we have that feel-good warmth that just makes me fall in love with all the characters.

Not hilarious anymore, but still good for a chuckle or two.

3+

what do you play?

[ahwell]

Moonstruck

Coincidence! In my orchestra I’m playing a piece from the opera in this movie, La Boheme! The fact of the matter is, I probably like the opera more than this movie. But still, quite the charming little film. It’s not a masterpiece, but Nic Cage gives a fine performance and we have that feel-good warmth that just makes me fall in love with all the characters.

Not hilarious anymore, but still good for a chuckle or two.

3+

what do you play?
Violin.

[Citizen Rules]

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Pride (2014)

I liked it. I liked the overall story, especially as it covered an interesting event in time that I'd never heard of. And I liked that it had the potential for rooting for the underdogs with a happy ending too. I thought the film was well cast and I liked the leads...and I even liked where it was filmed, as it seemed authentic to me. But I wanted more story. I wanted to know more about these people and how the times that they lived in effected them. It felt like each scene was more of a brief montage than a complete chapter. It's like the film jumps into the middle of a scene without giving us much time to experience any emotions. This made the film seem choppy and hard to follow at times.

It was all so: quick, fast and loud...and then the scene is over and the next one starts...In that way it reminded me of Suspect's sci fi nom Coherence (2013) feeling like a movie where everything starts and ends in the middle.

If Pride had been in the hands of a more capable director who was able to flesh out the individual stories more, this might have been an Oscar contender.

[TheUsualSuspect]

In that way it reminded me of Suspect's sci fi nom Coherence (2013) feeling like a movie where everything starts and ends in the middle.


While I do like Coherence, I nominated Attack the Block for the Sci/Fi HoF.

Okay nominated Coherence.

Despite the issues you listed for Pride, I'm certainly glad you enjoyed it. I like hearing about people "discovering" movies and enjoying them on some level.

[TheUsualSuspect]

The Breakfast Club

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4

I don't know if there is a more iconic teen movie than the Breakfast Club and despite taking place in the 80's, there is enough material present that is relatable to teenagers today to stay relevant. Sure, laugh at the outdated slang, the 80's fashion, the lunches or pop culture references but connect to the fears, desires, and general sense of wanting to belong to something. A lot of things around teenagers change, but do the teenagers change themselves?

I've seen people state that they don't like how the film chooses to change the Ally Sheedy character to be someone she's not so that Emilio Estevez can like her now. But I've read some arguments that her initial get-up is simply her blocking the chance for people to get to know her and as the film progresses you see less and less of the black, the shield and barrier and more of who she might be. Her bad girl, I don't give a crap attitude is a front and maybe she can finally be herself later on in the film. I'm not saying that bright pink outfits and make-up is who she really is, but dropping the character she is before, no longer hiding her face behind the hair and letting people get to know her brings out something in her. It's not about making her pretty, it's about taking off the mask.

With that out of the way....the film is great. I don't know what else to add to a movie that has been on TV countless times and when I flick by it...I stop and watch it. I quote the lines before the character says it, much to the annoyance of my wife...until she does it too. This and his movie about different modes of transportation are Hughes best work. :p

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Quills

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3.5


Miss Vicky stop trying to make Joaquin happen!!!

In all seriousness though, this film held up about as much as I expected it to. Meaning that it is still a good film, but not one that really blew me away. It has all the right elements of plot, characters and intrigue, but a few missteps with unfinished subplots makes the film feel unfinished as a whole.

Cain usually plays the loveable old man and here he does a 180. Putting on the despicable face, really made me hate him. Winslet showcases her talents early on and shows why she is one of the best actresses working today.

Period pieces tend to be more or less boring for me, but Quills manages to be one of the exceptions. It has a lot more style than the dry stiffness one would expect.

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Quills

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3.5


Miss Vicky stop trying to make Joaquin happen!!!

In all seriousness though, this film held up about as much as I expected it to. Meaning that it is still a good film, but not one that really blew me away. It has all the right elements of plot, characters and intrigue, but a few missteps with unfinished subplots makes the film feel unfinished as a whole.

Cain usually plays the loveable old man and here he does a 180. Putting on the despicable face, really made me hate him. Winslet showcases her talents early on and shows why she is one of the best actresses working today.

Period pieces tend to be more or less boring for me, but Quills manages to be one of the exceptions. It has a lot more style than the dry stiffness one would expect.

I love Quills, but it has little to do with Phoenix. Rush is the standout here.

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I love Quills, but it has little to do with Phoenix. Rush is the standout here.

I only mention him because Miss Vicky is a stalker. :p