View Full Version : US President Trump announces death of ISIS leader Baghdadi
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50200339
So is it being considered anything comparable to killing of Osama when Obama was President ? Is it producing the same euphoria in the USA ? My guess is that it is not .
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Mesmerized
10-27-19, 11:25 AM
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Pakistanis are joking on facebook that he gets killed every now and then by USA .
I myself was surprised to hear that he was again dead . I thought Baghdadi was killed long ago .
Mesmerized
10-27-19, 12:05 PM
This is something that's happening right now.
http://watchnewslive.tv/fox-news-live-stream-usa/
That makes up the top headlines on both CNN and FOX News so it's not being hidden or anything. I think more people here knew Bin Laden's name than Baghdadi though so I'm not sure the story will have the legs to last as long. Depends on which portion of the U.S. you ask, too, is my guess.
Mesmerized
10-27-19, 12:38 PM
I think the focus here should be on the death of a very bad man. This is not a popularity contest.
JoaoRodrigues
10-27-19, 12:38 PM
Killing one CIA paid mercenary.
Killing one CIA paid mercenary.
you mean he was created by CIA ?
I think the focus here should be on the death of a very bad man. This is not a popularity contest.
I didn't mean it as popularity contest or to take away the seriousness Of the news. It was a reply to the OP's question if this would have the same euphoric effect as Osama's death.
Killing one CIA paid mercenary.
I'm guessing this is just another glib comment without any specific knowledge or understanding behind it. Just a sort of "I've heard the CIA was involved in other stuff decades ago so I'm just going to toss the idea out there without looking into it" thing, right?
WrinkledMind
10-27-19, 04:34 PM
I found Washington Post's description of him as an 'Austere Religious Scholar' instead of a terrorist scum or a monster quite interesting.
I found Washington Post's description of him as an 'Austere Religious Scholar' instead of a terrorist scum or a monster quite interesting.
words like scum are used on forums , not newspapers .
Sure, but "Austere Religious Scholar" is absurd. They changed it after and it's already become a huge thing/meme on Twitter. Rightfully so.
Mesmerized
10-27-19, 05:56 PM
Sure, but "Austere Religious Scholar" is absurd. They changed it after and it's already become a huge thing/meme on Twitter. Rightfully so.
This webpage still calls him an austere religious scholar, in the obituary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-islamic-states-terrorist-in-chief-dies-at-48/2019/10/27/0d004abc-663d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?outputType=amp
Ah. I dunno if I have a problem with it as part of a full obituary, but the idea that he's that in a headline, before the egregious stuff, is journalistic malpractice. I guess I'm glad they corrected it, but it's incredible it went up at all.
gandalf26
10-27-19, 08:34 PM
Amazing that so many rushed to join the "Caliphate" like it's the 15th century, but its not, its 2019 and we have thousands of pilots in places like Vegas logging in for a drone shift ready to reduce their cities to rubble before logging out and home to the wife and a beer.
Sure you can grab a few headlines with brutal executions and a few terror attacks (that are way more insignificant than say road traffic accident statistics) but what are you going to achieve with AK47's running and gunning round the desert?
All thats happened today is an idiot at the head of an organisation full of idiots has died, and looks like the bastard took 3 kids with him. Great productive life mate GG.
WrinkledMind
10-28-19, 05:14 AM
I found Washington Post's description of him as an 'Austere Religious Scholar' instead of a terrorist scum or a monster quite interesting.
words like scum are used on forums , not newspapers .
I was being a wee bit sarcastic.
Though, I am glad by the response of the general public.
This is not the first time I have seen a media company bending over backwards to not utter the dreaded 'terrorist' word while speaking about terrorists.
I mean here we had media describing scum like Burhan Wani a headmaster's son, Osama as devout family man and the NYT describing Pulwama attack as a random explosion - and most of them refusing to change their words.
Anyways, pretty certain another clown is waiting in the wings to stake claim as the new head.
JoaoRodrigues
10-28-19, 05:19 AM
you mean he was created by CIA ?
No, I mean he was paid by the CIA to do what he did. He was also probably trained, they normally use NATO for that, then they just supply them with guns, they create an anarchy state, destroying governmental institutions, the government can't work and they take over, classic. Now we have an orange coward on television saying how coward he was, please mr. president, wrap some explosives around your waist and click the button. It's easy, right? It's a great way to die, is it not? But we can now agree that his dead the same way we can agree Bin Laden is dead, because they told us, right? Dropped in the ocean, right? These two names are and always have been what they say they were. And I don't believe in "they", never will, period.
No, I mean he was paid by the CIA to do what he did. He was also probably trained, they normally use NATO for that, then they just supply them with guns, they create an anarchy state, destroying governmental institutions, the government can't work and they take over, classic. Now we have an orange coward on television saying how coward he was, please mr. president, wrap some explosives around your waist and click the button. It's easy, right? It's a great way to die, is it not? But we can now agree that his dead the same way we can agree Bin Laden is dead, because they told us, right? Dropped in the ocean, right? These two names are and always have been what they say they were. And I don't believe in "they", never will, period.
Ahem:
I'm guessing this is just another glib comment without any specific knowledge or understanding behind it. Just a sort of "I've heard the CIA was involved in other stuff decades ago so I'm just going to toss the idea out there without looking into it" thing, right?
John McClane
10-28-19, 10:16 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I was actually shocked by Trump's language and that whole speech. Just when I thought I couldn't be shocked anymore he goes and finds a new way to up his ante.
JoaoRodrigues
10-28-19, 10:44 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I was actually shocked by Trump's language and that whole speech. Just when I thought I couldn't be shocked anymore he goes and finds a new way to up his ante.
I wasn't shocked, but I was mad someone could actually find logic in what that piece of crap was saying.
I don't know why, but when I look at Trump I always recall that South Park episode where Cartman tries to get into Nascar, just for the poor and stupid.
Mesmerized
10-28-19, 12:49 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I was actually shocked by Trump's language and that whole speech. Just when I thought I couldn't be shocked anymore he goes and finds a new way to up his ante.
President Trump shocks a lot of people; but, mostly the impeachment-obsessed Democrats who piss their pants everytime he talks.
Citizen Rules
10-28-19, 01:54 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I was actually shocked by Trump's language and that whole speech. Just when I thought I couldn't be shocked anymore he goes and finds a new way to up his ante.Gosh I wish Homer Simpson was president instead of Comrade Trump. At least Homer had his moments of clarity.
Captain Steel
10-28-19, 02:59 PM
Gosh I wish Homer Simpson was president instead of Comrade Trump. At least Homer had his moments of clarity.
D'OH!
Stirchley
10-28-19, 04:02 PM
please mr. president, wrap some explosives around your waist and click the button.
You do know people have been arrested in America for statements such as this, whether or not meant to be taken seriously? It’s called domestic terrorism.
Yeah, I don't know how I missed that before (I guess I've gotten used to skimming Joao's posts, since they're so stream-of-consciousness), but that's totally inappropriate. I'm closing this thread, and if something encouraging violence against a political figure like that happens again, I'll be issuing a temporary ban.
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