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Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 12:25 PM
𝒫𝓇𝑒-1930𝓈 𝐻𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝒻 𝐹𝒶𝓂𝑒
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=54790&stc=1&d=1560011762
Easy-Peasy...just a fun little HoF to help support the upcoming MoFo pre-1930s Movie Countdown. I'm thinking this will be pretty small, so easy to do and of course anyone can join. Usually rules apply.
I'll post the movie nominations as they come in, so that way everyone can see what the movies are, before joining. The goal is to get some exposure for some great pre-30s films that might hopefully make the countdown, and as always to have fun!
Deadline: July 22nd
Reviews:
Ahwell List Sent In
Faust (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2020737#post2020737)
Lucky Star (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018632#post2018632)
Marianne (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2019566#post2019566)
Metropolis (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2020403#post2020403)
Pandora's Box (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017947#post2017947)
Sadie Thompson (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021371#post2021371)
Sherlock Jr (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017250#post2017250)
The Kid (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017258#post2017258)
The Man Who Laughs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021371#post2021371)
The Unknown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017946#post2017946)
Citizen Rules List Sent In
Faust (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2022190#post2022190)
Lucky Star (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2020423#post2020423)
Marianne (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2019208#post2019208)
Metropolis (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2024056#post2024056)
Pandora's Box (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018473#post2018473)
Sadie Thompson (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2020623#post2020623)
Sherlock Jr (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017263#post2017263)
The Kid (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018803#post2018803)
The Man Who Laughs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2023100#post2023100)
The Unknown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2020205#post2020205)
Cricket List Sent In
Faust (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017571#post2017571)
Lucky Star (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018935#post2018935)
Marianne (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017156#post2017156)
Metropolis (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2016967#post2016967)
Pandora's Box (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021136#post2021136)
Sadie Thompson (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2019981#post2019981)
Sherlock Jr. (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021023#post2021023)
The Kid (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018591#post2018591)
The Man Who Laughs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2019880#post2019880)
The Unknown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021023#post2021023)
Edarsenal List Sent In
Faust (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021372#post2021372)
Lucky Star (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2022868#post2022868)
Marianne (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021568#post2021568)
Metropolis (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2024247#post2024247)
Pandora's Box (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018156#post2018156)
Sherlock Jr (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018815#post2018815)
The Kid (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2020405#post2020405)
The Man Who Laughs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2022114#post2022114)
The Unknown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021393#post2021393)
Siddon List Sent In
Faust (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018562#post2018562)
Lucky Star (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2019947#post2019947)
Marianne (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2019904#post2019904)
Metropolis (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018146#post2018146)
Pandora's Box (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2025191#post2025191)
Sadie Thompson (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2021147#post2021147)
Sherlock Jr (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2018571#post2018571)
The Kid (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2017297#post2017297)
The Man Who Laughs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2022154#post2022154)
The Unknown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2022154#post2022154)
Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 12:30 PM
𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒩𝑜𝓂𝒾𝓃𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈
Nominated by Cricket
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=54744&stc=1&d=1559696625 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018737/)
Pandora's Box (1929)
1h 49min
Director: Georg Wilhelm Pabst
Stars: Louise Brooks
Nominated by Cricket
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=54745&stc=1&d=1559696964 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020122/)
Lucky Star (1929)
1h 40min
Director: Frank Borzage
Stars: Janet Gaynor, Charles Farrell
Nominated by Citizen Rules
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTkyOTQ1NzU1Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwODY1MTczMTE@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019344/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Sadie Thompson (1928)
1h 37min
Director: Raoul Walsh
Stars: Lionel Barrymore, Gloria Swanson
Nominated by Citizen Rules
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTM5MjY0ZWUtNzE0Yi00Y2IxLWI3MTctOTljNTYzOWFiNWY2XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjE5MjUyOTM@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182 ,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020143/)
Marianne (1929)
1h 51min
Director: Robert Z Leonard
Stars: Marion Davies
Nominated by Ahwell
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZWFhOGU5NDctY2Q3YS00Y2VlLWI1NzEtZmIwY2ZiZjY4OTA2XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDI2NDg0NQ@@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182 ,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015324/)
Sherlock Jr.(1924)
45min
Director: Buster Keaton
Stars: Buster Keaton
Nominated by Ahwell
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTg5YWIyMWUtZDY5My00Zjc1LTljOTctYmI0MWRmY2M2NmRkXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTMxODk2OTU@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182 ,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017136/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Metropolis (1927)
2h 33min
Director: Fritz Lang
Stars: Brigitte Helm
Nominated by Edarsenal
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTIyOTY1MTkwMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNzc5NzMwMjE@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019130/)
The Man Who Laughs (1928)
1h 50min
Director: Paul Leni
Stars: Conrad Veidt
Nominated by Edarsenal
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTBmMTg5M2UtNjMxMi00Yzg0LWJlMWItMTI5NjE3YzQ1NzU3XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDUyOTUyNQ@@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182 ,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0016847/)
Faust (1926)
1h 47min
Director: F.W. Murnau
Stars: Gösta Ekman
Nominated by Siddon
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTk3MjQ0MzYzMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNDg1NDM4MTE@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018528/)
The Unknown (1927)
1h 3m
Director: Tod Browning
Stars: Lon Chaney
Nominated by Siddon
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZjhhMThhNDItNTY2MC00MmU1LTliNDEtNDdhZjdlNTY5ZDQ1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjc1NTYyMjg@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182 ,268_AL_.jpg (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0012349/)
The Kid (1921)
1h 8min
Director: Charles Chaplin
Writer: Charles Chaplin
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Chypmunk
06-04-19, 01:43 PM
Good to see this happening, in all likelihood I'll probably sit and watch from the sidelines (like I normally do) but if the nominations are tempting enough and all available to me with my usual limited resources I might just be tempted to join in the fun.
cricket
06-04-19, 05:08 PM
We going to double up?
Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 05:57 PM
We going to double up? Possibility of that, if there are not many members and every one is cool with it. I'm cool with it:p
cricket
06-04-19, 06:46 PM
I'll pick something from my watchlist rather than something I've already seen.
edarsenal
06-04-19, 06:59 PM
I may go with a blind grab as well since I am looking to broaden my viewing.
Gimme a day or so, and I'll shoot one over to you.
THANKS for setting this up, CR!
Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 07:37 PM
I'll pick something from my watchlist rather than something I've already seen.I'm probably going with a blind nom too, that way I can see more pre 30 films for the countdown.
edarsenal
06-04-19, 07:51 PM
sent in my blind grab and will be searching for a secondary I'm very curious to see in case we double up.
rauldc14
06-04-19, 08:05 PM
I'd love to join but it would honestly put way too much on my plate. Still 2 Kubrick's, 7 Sci Fis and 10 19th HOF noms.
edarsenal
06-04-19, 08:13 PM
I'd love to join but it would honestly put way too much on my plate. Still 2 Kubrick's, 7 Sci Fis and 10 19th HOF noms.
annnd the coming animation HoF lol
GulfportDoc
06-04-19, 08:28 PM
Possibility of that, if there are not many members and every one is cool with it. I'm cool with it:p
I've got my list of 25-- just fine-tuning it. Will send it along soon....
~Doc
Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 09:49 PM
I've got my list of 25-- just fine-tuning it. Will send it along soon....
~Doc Cool, but don't send it to me, if that's what you meant. Chyp is the big cheese in charge of the Pre 30s MoFo Countdown. I'm just doing an HoF based on the same decades.
Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 09:51 PM
I'd love to join but it would honestly put way too much on my plate. Still 2 Kubrick's, 7 Sci Fis and 10 19th HOF noms.Bummer, it would have been cool if you could have joined.
Citizen Rules
06-04-19, 10:46 PM
The noms are up and on the second post. The Hof hasn't started yet, I'm just posting the noms as they come in.
cricket
06-05-19, 08:21 AM
The only one I've seen is Sherlock Jr. and I've seen it twice. Wasn't it nominated in the Silent Era HoF? Anyway, the others all look excellent and The Man Who Laughs was already on my watchlist.
GulfportDoc
06-05-19, 10:22 AM
Cool, but don't send it to me, if that's what you meant. Chyp is the big cheese in charge of the Pre 30s MoFo Countdown. I'm just doing an HoF based on the same decades.
Quite so. I've received a private reprimand..:) Chypmunk will recieve my list tout de suite. I do admit to a confusion to the distinction between a countdown and an HOF.
~Doc
Chypmunk
06-05-19, 10:32 AM
I do admit to a confusion to the distinction between a countdown and an HOF.
No worries, it can be HOFally confusing at first ;)
The deadline for lists for the countdown is not until early October so you can tinker a while longer should you wish.
Citizen Rules
06-05-19, 12:35 PM
The only one I've seen is Sherlock Jr. and I've seen it twice. Wasn't it nominated in the Silent Era HoF? Anyway, the others all look excellent and The Man Who Laughs was already on my watchlist. Sherlock Jr. has now been nominated in 5 different Hofs.
This HoF of course and...
Classic Comedy HoF - Alexwilder DQ
Silent Era Hof - Swan DQ
Comedy HoF - Swan DQ
HoF 2 - Daniel M
I've seen The Man Who Laughs it's a good one.
Citizen Rules
06-05-19, 12:38 PM
Quite so. I've received a private reprimand..:) Chypmunk will recieve my list tout de suite. I do admit to a confusion to the distinction between a countdown and an HOF.
~DocNo worries. What we're doing on this thread is a Hall of Fame movie watching and ranking, just like you did in the Classic Comedy Hof (where you nominated two Cary Grant films). This Pre 1930s Hall of Fame (HoF) hasn't started yet, would you like to join?
Citizen Rules
06-05-19, 01:27 PM
Two more noms are up and posted:
Metropolis (1927)
Faust (1926)
I might have to change mine: Marianne (1929), I can't find it so far. If you guys have links for your noms, PM them to me.
The best I can find so far. (https://ok.ru/video/296674069155)
I'm pretty sure this is what I saw on TCM.
Citizen Rules
06-05-19, 04:19 PM
mark f
Thank you:)
edarsenal
06-05-19, 07:06 PM
forgot to give you a link for Faust, so I PMed it.
Both of them are on YouTube.
cricket
06-05-19, 07:49 PM
Saw Faust in February and Metropolis in 2018, both very good movies.
Both of my noms pop right up on YouTube.
Citizen Rules
06-05-19, 07:52 PM
Sounds good, guys! BTW the movie posters are clickable links. They work too, I tested it myself:p
edarsenal
06-05-19, 09:16 PM
Just realized I didn't do an initial comment,
Nominated by Cricket Pandora's Box (1929) This was one on my Curious List while wandering around for movies
Nominated by Cricket Lucky Star (1929) This is unknown to me but with it being from Cricket, should be pretty d@mn good
Nominated by Citizen Rules Sadie Thompson (1928) wow a Gloria Swanson film WITH Lionel Barrymore. I am intrigued
Nominated by Citizen Rules Marianne (1929) A few musical numbers, eh? Nice little mix into the crowd.
Nominated by Ahwell Sherlock Jr.(1924) I think this is the third HoF I've been in where this was disqualified before I got to see it, so this definitely looks like third time's the charm for it.
Nominated by Ahwell Metropolis (1927) Have not seen this since my early twenties at the movie theater in Detroit's Art Museum. It's been about thirty years so it'll be a great litte rewatch that feels like a first time.
Nominated by Edarsenal The Man Who Laughs (1928) A blind grab that is on my To Watch List.
Nominated by Edarsenal Faust (1926) So is this one with the same director who did Nosferatu, so I'm kinda geeked for this, as I am with pretty much this entire list.
Citizen Rules
06-05-19, 09:32 PM
Here's my comments on Ed's comments:p Just for fun:)
Nominated by Cricket Pandora's Box (1929) This was one on my Curious List while wandering around for moviesI haven't seen this either but we watched Louise Brooks in Diary of a Lost Girl in the Silent Era HoF and she was great in that, so I've been wanting to see this one.
Nominated by Cricket Lucky Star (1929) This is unknown to me but with it being from Cricket, should be pretty d@mn goodA talkie! and with Janet Gaynor from the 1st version of A Star is Born, this should be interesting.
Nominated by Citizen Rules Sadie Thompson (1928) wow a Gloria Swanson film WITH Lionel Barrymore. I am intrigued I'm a fan of movies made from W. Somerset Maugham's novels and of the Joan Crawford version of this same story, Rain (1932)
Nominated by Citizen Rules Marianne (1929) A few musical numbers, eh? Nice little mix into the crowd.Both of mine where blind noms. I knew I wanted a Marion Davies movie. I've only seen her in one film and she was a standout, at least William Randolph Hurst thought so.
Nominated by Ahwell Sherlock Jr.(1924) I think this is the third HoF I've been in where this was disqualified before I got to see it, so this definitely looks like third time's the charm for it.This is a good one, I just re-watched it for the Classic Comedy Hof, so I won't watch it again, but can say I enjoyed it. Very creative film.
Nominated by Ahwell Metropolis (1927) Have not seen this since my early twenties at the movie theater in Detroit's Art Museum. It's been about thirty years so it'll be a great litte rewatch that feels like a first time. Since then they found the missing footage and restored it. I've seen it twice, once in my 20s on PBS and once a decade ago. So another watch is in order.
Nominated by Edarsenal The Man Who Laughs (1928) A blind grab that is on my To Watch List.I almost nominated this myself! So very glad you did, I think it's a special film and I'm wanting to rewatch it.
Nominated by Edarsenal Faust (1926) So is this one with the same director who did Nosferatu, so I'm kinda geeked for this, as I am with pretty much this entire list. This looked cool when I checked it out on youtube, so it'll be interesting to see it in it's entirety.
Chypmunk
06-06-19, 02:07 AM
A good set of noms thus far and I'll almost certainly watch a number of them as part of my pre-1930 viewings but I think on balance with my running that countdown, running a song tourney this month and my monthly themes I'm probably best staying on the sidelines rather than joining in proper.
I'm a fan of movies made from W. Somerset Maugham's novels and of the Joan Crawford version of this same story, Rain (1932)
Thanks for stating this, as soon as I read the title I knew it rang a bell but could not for the life of me think why lol. Quite enjoyed Rain and wasn't aware there was a version prior to that one so my interest is super-piqued for this one .... in fact Sadie Thompson will most likely now be this morning's watch :up:
John-Connor
06-06-19, 04:51 AM
I'll be watching from the sidelines, but will try to watch a couple pre-1930s before the countdown that have been on my watchlist for the longest time:
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari 1920
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse 1921
The Thief of Bagdad 1924
Metropolis 1927
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans 1927
Napoleon 1927
The Passion of Joan of Arc 1928
Man with a Movie Camera 1929
The best I can find so far. (https://ok.ru/video/296674069155)
I'm pretty sure this is what I saw on TCM.
I'm getting an error message
Chypmunk
06-06-19, 06:20 AM
Well, I done gone watched Sadie Thompson, won't say too much about it as this HOF's not even started yet really but on balance I'd say it's a better version than the 1932 Rain - it's a shame about that last reel not being salvageable though and, whilst I certainly don't hold it against the film, I've no idea who commissioned the modern score but I had to turn it off after a few minutes as to me it belonged far more to a crappy arcade game than a fillum :shrug:
Citizen Rules
06-06-19, 01:53 PM
Siddon has joined and nominated two good ones.
The Unknown (1927) 1h 3m
The Kid (1921) 1h 8min
I haven't seen either, but of course I've heard of The Kid and I always enjoy Charlie Chaplin. I hadn't heard of The Unknown but I do recognize the director's name: Tod Browning.
I'll keep this HoF open through Monday if anyone else would like to join. But we can go ahead and start watching the noms.
edarsenal
06-06-19, 03:55 PM
Siddon has joined and nominated two good ones.
The Unknown (1927) 1h 3m
The Kid (1921) 1h 8min
I haven't seen either, but of course I've heard of The Kid and I always enjoy Charlie Chaplin. I hadn't heard of The Unknown but I do recognize the director's name: Tod Browning.
I'll keep this HoF open through Monday if anyone else would like to join. But we can go ahead and start watching the noms.
sounds like a plan, CR!!
WELCOME Siddon!
LOOOVE The Kid! Haven't seen it in a decade or two and if I didn't go for blind grabs I would have TOTALLY gone with this one -- so pretty d@mn happy to see it here.
Intrigued by The Unknown with the Man of a Thousand Faces, Lon Chaney and to see a Browning film, since I so enjoyed his famous films; Dracula and Freaks and never saw any others.
edarsenal
06-06-19, 03:56 PM
I'll be watching from the sidelines, but will try to watch a couple pre-1930s before the countdown that have been on my watchlist for the longest time:
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari 1920
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse 1921
The Thief of Bagdad 1924
Metropolis 1927
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans 1927
Napoleon 1927
The Passion of Joan of Arc 1928
Man with a Movie Camera 1929
great list. Quite a number of them I need to see as well.
cricket
06-06-19, 04:02 PM
Happy to see The Kid and The Unknown added as they're both on my watchlist for the countdown already. The Unknown was almost one of my blind nominations. I guess that would have been fitting.
Citizen Rules
06-06-19, 05:08 PM
We have 10 films, a few of them are about 1 hour long or shorter, so it's more like 8 full length films to watch, that is if you haven't seen any of them before...So what can you guys do for a deadline?
I'm thinking 8 weeks should be easy, but can everyone do 6 weeks maybe? The reason is I'd like to see a second Pre 30s Hof being done before the deadline for the Pre 30s Countdown is up...which is in about 15 weeks. Let me know...
cricket
06-06-19, 05:21 PM
Anytime is fine for me.
edarsenal
06-06-19, 06:37 PM
I can work for a six week deadline to help make room for a secondary one.
edarsenal
06-06-19, 06:39 PM
I'm getting an error message
I've experienced that on occasion with that site.
Try again in a day or so and there's a very good chance it'll work then.
edarsenal
06-06-19, 06:41 PM
Well, I done gone watched Sadie Thompson, won't say too much about it as this HOF's not even started yet really but on balance I'd say it's a better version than the 1932 Rain - it's a shame about that last reel not being salvageable though and, whilst I certainly don't hold it against the film, I've no idea who commissioned the modern score but I had to turn it off after a few minutes as to me it belonged far more to a crappy arcade game than a fillum :shrug:
I've had that issue and would turn on some Blues or Classic Rock for back up music. Did that recently with Beloved Rogue and some of the songs actually synced up rather nicely for a number of scenes.
Chypmunk
06-06-19, 06:49 PM
I've had that issue and would turn on some Blues or Classic Rock for back up music. Did that recently with Beloved Rogue and some of the songs actually synced up rather nicely for a number of scenes.
Funny you should say that but I did put on a mix of some Sonya Kitchell and Jane Blue and there was one moment where the lyrics and ambience of the song were just perfectly in sync with the visuals for about sixty seconds :D
edarsenal
06-06-19, 06:50 PM
Funny you should say that but I did put on a mix of some Sonya Kitchell and Jane Blue and there was one moment where the lyrics and ambience of the song were just perfectly in sync with the visuals for about sixty seconds :D
wonderful feeling that!
cricket
06-08-19, 09:46 AM
Out of the 3 nomination I've already seen, Metropolis is the only one I've decided not to watch again. One reason is because I've seen it fairly recently. The other and more important reason is that my opinion of it is most likely as high as it will go. Of course I am not a huge Sci-Fi fan, and the result here was that I was more impressed with it than I enjoyed it, although I did enjoy it quite a bit. When watching some of these old classics, I can't help but sometimes think of overused phrases such as "great for its time". Statements like this are probably shortchanging this and other movies, but I can't help what pops into my head. There would seem to be a ton of influence from this movie, with Blade Runner being the first that I think of. Blade Runner is another that I respect more than I enjoy, but I enjoyed Metropolis more. Watching the restored version is a must, and at this point it should and could be the only version out there. It's a great movie that I don't have a passion for. I'd have to give it at least 4
Citizen Rules
06-08-19, 01:14 PM
...Metropolis is the only one I've decided not to watch again. One reason is because I've seen it fairly recently. The other and more important reason is that my opinion of it is most likely as high as it will go. ... That's me too, if I watch a movie I've previously liked too many times, I'll start to have a lower opinion of it. Rarely does it work the other way for me and my opinion go up. Though I did think more of Raising Baby after watching it 4 times. I'll watch Metropolis as haven't seen it in over 10 years, maybe longer. I'll start watching some of these fairly soon, I'm just trying to knock off a few more noms for the 19th and Sci Fi HoFs first.
Citizen Rules
06-08-19, 01:33 PM
I'm posting the write-ups on the 1st post and I just added the first one:)
edarsenal
06-08-19, 01:34 PM
I'm on the other spectrum, having a list of films I watch, again and again, there are some that I get a renewed enjoyment and appreciation when seen again. I did that this week with Pulp Fiction and The Godfather. Could have easily done a review for either without a rewatch and Godfather was only a few months ago, but still. A little more appreciation, a little more enjoyable.
cricket
06-09-19, 11:34 AM
Marianne
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Knew nothing going it. Right off the bat I was delighted to find out it was a "talkie". No matter how many great Silent films I watch, I still prefer spoken dialogue. Knowing there's not many of them pre-30's, it was a nice surprise to be watching one. Very first impression of Marianne the character and actress was not a good one, but that was only momentary. She reminds me of a cross between Marlene Dietrich and Lucille Ball and definitely has star quality. I was initially also put off by the comedic elements since for whatever reason I assumed this to be a more serious film. That also quickly went away as the characters and everything else was so likable. There is one funny guy in the movie that I swear I've seen somewhere before, the guy in the photo front right looking down. I felt like the movie threatened to go into madcap comedy at times which I didn't want since I'm not a huge fan of old comedy. It never quite got there and as a result I was amused for the duration. It's also a musical, although not to the extreme, and fortunately this was also a major positive. We get a touch of seriousness towards the end and that worked great for me. Not a new favorite for me but I liked it a good amount.
3.5-
GulfportDoc
06-09-19, 12:36 PM
Marianne
Knew nothing going it. Right off the bat I was delighted to find out it was a "talkie". No matter how many great Silent films I watch, I still prefer spoken dialogue. Knowing there's not many of them pre-30's, it was a nice surprise to be watching one. Very first impression of Marianne the character and actress was not a good one, but that was only momentary. She reminds me of a cross between Marlene Dietrich and Lucille Ball and definitely has star quality. I was initially also put off by the comedic elements since for whatever reason I assumed this to be a more serious film. That also quickly went away as the characters and everything else was so likable. There is one funny guy in the movie that I swear I've seen somewhere before, the guy in the photo front right looking down. I felt like the movie threatened to go into madcap comedy at times which I didn't want since I'm not a huge fan of old comedy. It never quite got there and as a result I was amused for the duration. It's also a musical, although not to the extreme, and fortunately this was also a major positive. We get a touch of seriousness towards the end and that worked great for me. Not a new favorite for me but I liked it a good amount.
rating_3_5-
Nice commentary. I like Marion Davies in just about anything. What a wonderful personality! One can see why WR Hearst was smitten.
I believe the actor you mentioned was Bennie Rubin, a popular Jewish comedian of the day. He actually kept working on popular shows up through the 1970s.
~Doc
Citizen Rules
06-09-19, 01:16 PM
I seen this thread bumped and I thought it was Chyp's thread, I guess the thread names are real similar. Glad to hear you liked Marianne, I've not seen it before but when we went with two noms, I knew I wanted one of them to be a talkie. I haven't seen Marion Davies in anything except Operator 13 and in that she made an impression on me. So know I can't wait to watch this.
cricket
06-09-19, 01:19 PM
I believe the actor you mentioned was Bennie Rubin, a popular Jewish comedian of the day. He actually kept working on popular shows up through the 1970s.
I looked him up and that was him. I must have remembered him from TV. He has a very recognizable face.
Sherlock,Jr.
This is a fun film which I know has been nominated for a lot of hall of fames, but it's basically the only pre-1930s film that I know well, and I wanted to nominate at least one that I knew. So all in all, although the plot is pretty thin, you can just feel the creative energy from Buster Keaton in this film, and I really appreciate that. He'll go to such lengths for great entertainment, and while special effects will do the trick today, back then this was just really impressive - it still is really impressive, which says a lot about how audiences might have received it in the 1920s. Buster Keaton builds a lovable hero for himself in the midst of the action as well, and I just end up finishing the film with a smile on my face, which I can't say I do for many other films.
3.5
Citizen Rules
06-09-19, 08:45 PM
Sherlock,Jr.
This is a fun film which I know has been nominated for a lot of hall of fames, but it's basically the only pre-1930s film that I know well, and I wanted to nominate at least one that I knew. So all in all, although the plot is pretty thin, you can just feel the creative energy from Buster Keaton in this film, and I really appreciate that. He'll go to such lengths for great entertainment, and while special effects will do the trick today, back then this was just really impressive - it still is really impressive, which says a lot about how audiences might have received it in the 1920s. Buster Keaton builds a lovable hero for himself in the midst of the action as well, and I just end up finishing the film with a smile on my face, which I can't say I do for many other films.
rating_3_5Keaton is great in this, it's hard to image someone not liking this. Good nom;up:
The Kid
This film holds up pretty darn well. Chaplin is in his most iconic role, the Tramp, and boy does he play that role well. The kid is absolutely adorable and a really good actor too. The plot of the story was overall actually pretty interesting, and I found it wasn't one of those movies that one watches simply for historical reasons. It holds by itself as a film today too. So hats off to Chaplin again for a great early film. This is probably my second favorite Chaplin after Modern Times, and I think it's one of his more underrated films.
4
Citizen Rules
06-09-19, 10:42 PM
I wrote this about Sherlock Jr.
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Sherlock Jr. (Buster Keaton, 1924)
Silent films can be fun! At only 45 minutes this is a quick and fun watch! Many of the silent films suffer from poor print quality, but luckily Sherlock Jr looks great on the DVD that was put out by Kino.
Buster Keaton is great! The man could convey so much emotion to us just by a look on his face. I loved the part where he gives a ring to his girl and it's tiny! She's not impressed either, but then Keaton takes a magnifying glass out of his pocket so that the ring will look big to his girl..that was funny!
Most of the films brilliance isn't in humor, but in creativity. Shortly into the film Buster who's a film projections falls asleep and dreams he's in the film that he's been watching on the screen. That's when Sherlock Jr becomes surrealistic.....as Buster is chased, he quickly goes from the city, to the country, then to the jungle, all done seamlessly. The film is quite a technical feat. There's some crazy stunts including one where a huge amount of water pours onto poor Buster.
Besides being a talented actor, Buster Keaton was a skilled director who took great care in creating this 45 minute long movie. After 95 years, Sherlock Jr is still a treat to watch.
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Charlie Chaplin might have been the worlds best prophet. As the Great Dictator managed to capture the essence of Hitler right at the start of WWII The Kid manages to be one of the best depression era films...made a decade before the Great Depression.
The plot is simple, an unmarried woman has a child and gives it up, a lonely poor man takes and raises the child as his own. They run a scam where the child breaks windows and the Tramp shows up to fix them. Eventually the child can't be taken care of anyone as he gets ill and the mother reenters the picture.
It's funny, tragic, and just as relevant today as it was 98 years ago.
rating_5
cricket
06-11-19, 07:41 AM
Faust
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I watched this earlier this year for the horror countdown, one of the few and last movies I needed to see for that particular countdown. I watched it again for this because I thought I could get more out of it this time even though my first viewing was pretty good. I definitely did and it's a heck of a movie really. It's a great story that's been done many times, but it's cool since there can be many variations. I do prefer The Devil and Daniel Webster which I think plays out a little less fantastically. It's unbelievable how this movie with effects that now seem archaic and hokey can transform the otherworldly into a nightmarish reality, must more effectively than a modern movie could with state of the art technology. There's a point in this somewhere between the middle and the end that lags a little for me, but it's really just a minor deal. I didn't realize the first time I watched it that the same actor played young and old Faust. Very nice job with the make-up. The real draw for me is Emil Jannings as Satan. His performance is spectacular and the faces he makes are priceless.
3.5+
edarsenal
06-11-19, 02:27 PM
I REALLY need to pick one of these and watch and have NO IDEA which! lol
Citizen Rules
06-11-19, 02:34 PM
I REALLY need to pick one of these and watch and have NO IDEA which! lol Me too!...I hope to get started soon.
Chypmunk
06-11-19, 02:49 PM
I REALLY need to pick one of these and watch and have NO IDEA which! lol
Me too!...I hope to get started soon.
Get on it you slackers, even this mere sideliner has watched 3 of the fillums since they started being revealed :p ;)
edarsenal
06-11-19, 03:18 PM
lol
that kind of settles it, doesn't it? Time to get a watchin
I’ve watched The Unknown and Pandora’s Box, l will try to have them written up soon.
The Unknown
Although it has an interesting plot, The Unknown failed to grab me. I didn't really like any of the characters, and the plot is already fading on me even though I watched it only a day or two ago. What I recall was that there was a very touchy man who would constantly make the woman nervous, and she goes to an armless man (who's not really armless) for protection... but the really sexually aggressive man gets the girl in the end and the man who has his arms cut off to marry her ends up trampled by a horse... both were kind of jerks. The theme/moral really stumped me, I guess it's..."Be really touchy with women and they'll eventually succumb and fall in love with you"...? So, kind of confusing but not actually that bad technically wise.
3
Pandora's Box
This was a masterpiece, an eight-act descent of a woman from luxury to death - at the hands of Jack the Ripper of all people! Of course this movie is all about sex, and it's so not afraid to be about sex even though there are no real sex scenes. Every man that Lulu meets has some sort of misfortune by the end, and Lulu is a bit of an oblivious witch herself... but I still end up liking her. I think Louise Brooks is absolutely fantastic in Pandora's Box, and she is definitely one of my favorite actors in this time period. We also have - in 1929!!!!!! - A GAY subplot! I never would have thought that, never would that happen in Hollywood, but with these early German films I suppose anything flew. Anyways, big thumbs up (although the plot dragged and lost focus at the end).
4
cricket
06-12-19, 09:57 PM
Pandora's Box
This was a masterpiece, an eight-act decent of a woman from luxury to death - at the hands of Jack the Ripper of all people! Of course this movie is all about sex, and it's so not afraid to be about sex even though there are no real sex scenes. Every man that Lulu meets has some sort of misfortune by the end, and Lulu is a bit of an oblivious witch herself... but I still end up liking her. I think Louise Brooks is absolutely fantastic in Pandora's Box, and she is definitely one of my favorite actors in this time period. We also have - in 1929!!!!!! - A GAY subplot! I never would have thought that, never would that happen in Hollywood, but with these early German films I suppose anything flew. Anyways, big thumbs up (although the plot dragged and lost focus at the end).
4
You see Diary of a Lost Girl? Seeing her in that was the reason I picked this one.
You see Diary of a Lost Girl? Seeing her in that was the reason I picked this one.
Nope, but I might nominate that for Part 2 now so I can watch it.
cricket
06-12-19, 11:11 PM
Nope, but I might nominate that for Part 2 now so I can watch it.
It was a nomination for the Silent Era HoF
Citizen Rules
06-12-19, 11:19 PM
It was a nomination for the Silent Era HoFTrue enough, here's a link
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=46396
You can nominate it again if you want, as it didn't win. BTW I thought it was a powerful film, definitely worth watching.
edarsenal
06-13-19, 12:20 AM
sounds intriguing.
I watched Pandora's Box last night and should have a write up in the next day or so. It'll be spoilers galore, most likely.
I definitely liked how they handled certain aspects/situations, camera-wise.
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Metropolis, can a film receive five stars based primarily on set design. While that is a little unfair it really is a gorgeous film to look at. But of-course you can't gloss over the performance of Brigitte Helm
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Gustav Frohlich is also fairly compeling as a lead those his story is a bit weaker as Freder and I don't think has aged well.
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And really that's the only problem you can have with the film is that it has such a strong political message from 100 years ago so you aren't sure what to attribute to it. I loved so many of the set pieces especially the dance number which was intercut with a reaction shot with the bourgeoisie and the religious apocrypha portion.
rating_4_5(perhaps five when I get to the end)
edarsenal
06-13-19, 10:13 PM
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Pandora's Box
Dr. Ludwig Schön: [to Alwa] Just one thing, my boy: Beware of that woman!
SPOILERS
One helluva a start for this HoF.
Set up in Acts, which, for a while there, seemed like serious jumps in what was going on, that, at times, I had to do some guesswork at what was what. At times wondering if I would need a second viewing. Though, by the end, the wish for a second viewing would be more for the enjoyment than understanding.
Which is my only critique on this slow spiraling film that seems to ensnare you without you even being away that it has occurred. Only to realize it's too late to do anything about it.
Much like the people who fall for and demand to have Lulu, (Louise Brooks). Who's nonchalant attitude to it all and everyone reminded me of a leaf traversing a turbulent water way. No decisive plan; just where ever, what ever. A carefree spirit cast adrift among cruder individuals. With whom she cavorts like a coquettish kitten.
What I found impressive was how things were implied without ever truly showing anything to the audience.
Lulu's sexual interludes. She is forever on someone's knee, but it never goes past that, ever. Nor does it need to.
The two deaths within this film, Dr. Schon, who tries to force her to kill herself so he doesn't have to murder her; is from behind him and there is a puff of smoke from the gun signifying it had gone off.
And then hers, at the end, with (and I didn't realize that they used the actual name and not a facsimile of him) Jack the Ripper, where all you see is her hand tense up and then slip away. Quite a beautiful shot, that. As well as the ones leading to it. Especially on the stairs when he let's go of his knife before taking her hand.
And the fact that they had, by implication only, a lesbian character whom, like all the rest, was enraptured by Lulu and willing to do anything for her.
On a separate note, which amused me enough to share; being not all that happy with the soundtrack, I opened youtube and played a Louisiana Blues compilation that synced up beautifully for the mood and scenarios in here on quite a few incidences. Including a song ending as an Act finished and the next one started as the Act placard faded. One of my favorite songs fitting the action on screen was where Lulu and an excruciatingly depressed Alwa is shown in London and the lyrics remark about "can it get any harder than this".
I reiterate, one helluva start for this HoF.
Citizen Rules
06-13-19, 11:25 PM
Yahoo, Ed's on the map! OK, I bestest be watching me some noms tonight:p
cricket
06-15-19, 07:35 AM
So the first and third are the same movie but apparently different versions. Does anyone know if there's much difference and which one I should watch?
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Citizen Rules
06-15-19, 01:30 PM
So the first and third are the same movie but apparently different versions. Does anyone know if there's much difference and which one I should watch? I've not seen either version, yet. I read at IMDB this: 'A new version was reissued in 1971 with a new music score composed by Charles Chaplin, who also re-edited the film in order to omit a few scenes featuring the kid's mother. " So the second one must have the omitted scene.
BTW which version of Pandora's Box did everyone watch? There's a 1 hour 49 minute edited version, and there's a restored original version that's 2 hours 13 minutes, I watched the latter.
So the first and third are the same movie but apparently different versions. Does anyone know if there's much difference and which one I should watch? I've not seen either version, yet. I read at IMDB this: 'A new version was reissued in 1971 with a new music score composed by Charles Chaplin, who also re-edited the film in order to omit a few scenes featuring the kid's mother. " So the second one must have the omitted scene.
BTW which version of Pandora's Box did everyone watch? There's a 1 hour 49 minute edited version, and there's a restored original version that's 2 hours 13 minutes, I watched the latter.
Me too, well, on YouTube there was a 2 hour 11 minute one.
Citizen Rules
06-15-19, 02:14 PM
Me too, well, on YouTube there was a 2 hour 11 minute one.I would think that would be the same as the one listed as 2:13.
edarsenal
06-15-19, 03:03 PM
I saw mine on ffilms.org which is being a bit faulty today so I can't see what length mine was. I'll let you know.
I do know from what I read about it, it seems to have the preferred version by the director, so it may have been the longer one.
edarsenal
06-15-19, 04:20 PM
It's working now, and yes, I saw the one over 2 hours.
Citizen Rules
06-15-19, 10:57 PM
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Pandora's Box (1929)
I love that scene where Lulu playfully climbs onto the lap of a man who she thinks is only out for a good time. She has so much youthful joy in her pretty little face, that it makes what happens next, so very memorable.
I really liked Pandora's Box, I don't have a complaint, not one. Louise Brooks was so perfect for this role and I read that the role almost went to Marlene Dietrich. Marlene is great, but I don't see her as Lulu. There's only one Lulu and that's Louise Brooks. She imbibes Lulu with unbridled energy and a real feeling of innocents. Which is odd as she's grown up in dance halls and so has seen and apparently done it all, and yet she's not jaded, nor does she willingly use her feminine charms to get what she wants. To me she's pure of soul as her intentions are altruistic.....Wow! I'm really thinking of Lulu like a real person, see that's how powerful of presences she had.
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Faust was an okay film for me, I felt like it was imbalanced. The first act has the great set designs and compelling characters and then it devolves into a fairly routine home drama. Likely shouldn't have watched this after Metropolis because Murnau's visual limits are fairly glaring next to Lang.
Emil Jannings is Satan, he's fine but I found him to be more comical than menacing and the tonal shifts was sort of an issue for me. You have a fairly dark story and right in the middle of it you get this clown.
2.5
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Sherlock Jr tells the story of a poor projectionist who while courting a young lady ends up thrown on his butt after he gets framed for a theft. While down on his luck he falls into a fantasy world where he's the worlds greatest detective and we get a series of humorous stunts with the cast playing duel roles.
Yeah I loved this one, all of Keaton's physical comedy is on display and it works so well. Their is this great shot where he helps the girl out of the window by lying on all fours, then he jumps in the car to speed away and the girl falls backwards...that is classic comedy.
And while some parts feel dated and perhaps racist "local sheik" feels a bit problematic 100 years later I did enjoy the twist of the Girl being the proper detective and figuring out the crime. It's the little things in this one that made me enjoy.
rating_4
cricket
06-16-19, 07:49 PM
The Kid
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"A picture with a smile--and perhaps, a tear" is a brilliant and suitable tagline. The movie wasn't brilliant for me but I at least thought it had some brilliance. I've liked everything I've seen so far from Chaplin and this was no exception. Not as consistently funny as I expected, but there certainly are plenty of laughs. That is of course by design as the movie contains heavy elements. I thought the balance worked really well, but I felt like there was some unnecessary mean-spiritedness that rubbed me the wrong way. Not enough to soil the entire experience, but definitely enough for me to take notice. I was yearning for more of the sweetness of Modern Times, my favorite Chaplin to this point. I did not care for the dreamland sequence either. Every other part of the movie I thought of as high level. Chaplin is a terrific entertainer but that kid was phenomenal and at least his equal. Their relationship was the best part of the film. The supporting cast was good. I read a small bit about Chaplin and damn; from the tragedies to the romances with little girls, he had one messed up life.
3.5+
Lucky Star
Not a fan of this one. I think it could only really hold up well under the lens of historical analysis, since it is a silent film partially about World War I. Other than that, I think the characters were mostly unlikable, whether it is the clueless farm girl or the condescending "well-mannered" Tim. The story gets somewhat interesting at the end, but the first half or so is basically just Tim showing Mary how to have good manners... I may have dozed off a couple times. To me, nothing really stands out in this movie.
2
Citizen Rules
06-17-19, 09:10 PM
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The Kid (1921)
This might be my favorite Chaplin film so far. Two aspects of Chaplin the director/writer stands out:
1) He takes a bold social stand by clearly stating the unwed mother's only sin is that of motherhood. We then see her leaving the building where she had the baby and two rather stern people are shaking there heads in disapproval. For 1921 that was bold of Chaplin to champion the unwed mother in his film.
2) Chaplin allows the child actor to shine in the film, giving the kid many a close up. Another actor/director might have been unwilling to let the kid have any of the limelight. But Chaplin seems to not have an ego about his own stardom and so we get equal time with little Jackie Coogan.
The more I know of Charlie Chaplin, the more I think he was a pretty cool dude and way ahead of his time.
edarsenal
06-17-19, 10:53 PM
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Sherlock Jr.
It seems like the third time IS the charm with this being nominated two other times previously and then disqualified, so I finally get to watch, what is considered, along with The General (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017925/)one of Keaton's very best. It definitely is when it comes to the stunt work, which is pretty impressive and at many times, quite seamless and expertly timed. And, may I add, the man is a helluva pool player when it comes to trick shooting. WOW.
I honestly can't say enough about them and the man's ability to pull them off so amazingly well. Truly astounding.
My actual viewing of Buster Keaton films is, sadly, very limited and I'm pretty happy to finally sit back and thoroughly enjoy one of his best. It definitely gets me psyched to watch one I was considering for a blind grab; The General.
THANK YOU ahwell for allowing me to finally have the actual opportunity to watch all of this, having only seen highlights of Keaton throughout my life.
cricket
06-18-19, 05:18 PM
Lucky Star
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A simple and schmaltzy story and luckily I'm a simple and schmaltzy guy. I didn't like it at first when I found Janet Gaynor's character very annoying. As her character got better so did the movie. Tim was likable although he looked like he was ready to rip Mary's intestines out when she said she had been holding out on her ma. Wrenn was a suitable jerk. I liked the down home feel and look of the movie. Not much for humor except the look of horror on Mary's face when Wrenn told her mother that they were equally beautiful or whatever the words were. I hated the musical score and thought it really detracted from the movie. Overall I enjoyed it but didn't think it was anything special.
3
I’m confused...I tried the link for Marianne and three minutes in I realized it’s in French. Is there a way to get English subtitles or something?
Never mind, it switches to English.
Citizen Rules
06-19-19, 11:19 PM
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Marianne (1929)
This was my movie and it was a blind nom too. And to be honest I didn't really enjoy it all that much from a pure entertainment stand point. But what I really liked was Marion Davies. I can see why she was such a big star in the silent film days, and I can see why William Randolph Hurst took such a fancy to her....She was a doll! And so animated and lively that she carried the film effortlessly. I'm kinda embarrassed to say that this is only the second film I've seen of hers. I need to work on that!
Even though Marianne doesn't compare to the heavy hitter films in this HoF, I'm still glad I seen it as it's an important part of film history and sets on the cusp of both silent and talkie movies.
Originally this was shot as a silent film and as a drama and was 30 minutes shorter. What's interesting from a film buff's point of view is that this movie was made in that one year when sound films made a huge impact, and some silent films that were in production went back into production and added in sound. At no other time in movie history has such and abrupt change took place in films.
I haven't seen the silent version of this, but I think I can tell that the added in dialogue scenes were done to take advantage of the new trend in sound. I swear this film has more dialogue in it than films being made today, and it has a bunch of music to boot, which must have been amazing for audiences in 1929 to see AND hear.
Marianne
This one was another letdown. I just though the humor was really dated and they tried to add in sound elements (like the mediocre music) when they weren't necessary. Some of the dialogue scenes were interesting but overall it just wasn't too fun of a movie... the french accent of that woman drove me crazy, and I don't really know why. All of the characters just seemed unlikable and I wasn't very satisfied with the ending. Maybe I'm viewing it too much from an entertainment perspective, but I did the same for Pandora's Box and got much better results.
2.5
Citizen Rules
06-21-19, 03:14 PM
Marianne
... the french accent of that woman drove me crazy, and I don't really know why. Yeah it was hard to understand her. I think if that was done on the stage it would have been more dynamic, but it didn't really work for me either. Not sure why it's rated so high at IMDB?
Yeah it was hard to understand her. I think if that was done on the stage it would have been more dynamic, but it didn't really work for me either. Not sure why it's rated so high at IMDB?
Well ,I think because it only has 1,000 votes, that's about 1500 times less than the higher rated movies at IMDB.
edarsenal
06-22-19, 09:01 PM
Watched The Kid last night -- loved it (of course, being a Chaplin fanboy since I was around 5 or 6).
Will try to post a review in the next few days.
Citizen Rules
06-22-19, 10:18 PM
I'll try and do a two-fer tomorrow night.
cricket
06-23-19, 08:52 AM
The Man Who Laughs
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I saw this mostly as a tragic love story that I could have loved with more tragedy. There's a lot to like about it, and what I liked most was the settings. The story, characters, performances, and score were also all above average. I wonder how the actor's cheeks felt having to keep that stupid smile on his face all the time. It had the type of tone that I look for and I don't have any complaints except that I was never spellbound by it. Oh yea I have one complaint; I never got to see the five legged cow. Good movie.
3.5
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Marianne is well...a bit of a slough to get through, the music is not really that great, the humor has it's moments and the cinematography leads a bit to be desired. I suppose it's strength is it's a timeless story, I could see this basic plot rehashed today. At first I was excited that this wasn't a silent film...that excitement subsided rather quickly.
I'm surprised Citizen Rules liked Marion Davis' performance I thought her french accent was cartoonish and frankly terrible it completely took me out of the film. I'm not sure why they couldn't just get a french actress their should have been dozens of quality ones around during this period of time.
Perhaps the film would have been better as a silent one...but yeah it didn't do anything for me. An interesting experiment that just didn't work for me.
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Marianne
the french accent of that woman drove me crazy, and I don't really know why.
ITS BAD BECAUSE SHE'S NOT FRENCH THEREFORE SHE HAS TO SPEAK LOUD AND SLOWLY WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE QUICK AND SMOOTH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td1K15jw0FA
Citizen Rules
06-23-19, 01:08 PM
Marianne...I'm surprised Citizen Rules liked Marion Davis' performance I thought her french accent was cartoonish and frankly terrible it completely took me out of the film... I didn't like the movie either, it was a blind nom and I expected more out of it. I guess I liked Marion Davies performance, just because I thought she was cute! But yeah she over did the French bit, but then again the whole movie borders on farcical comedy, so it didn't bother me as everbody was wacky just about. I haven't seen the silent version, but I gather that it's much more serious and that the longer talkie is more silly as they included singing numbers and jokes for the audience who hadn't probably heard a film ever before in their lives.
edarsenal
06-23-19, 01:27 PM
ITS BAD BECAUSE SHE'S NOT FRENCH THEREFORE SHE HAS TO SPEAK LOUD AND SLOWLY WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE QUICK AND SMOOTH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td1K15jw0FA
"It's like wiping your ass with silk, I love it.
:D:D:D
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Lucky Star often we speak of performances and story's yet we miss out on the cinematography and direction. Lyons and Smith who did the photography in this film did a fantastic job. The camera really feels like an extra person. What I really value about the film is how Borzage doesn't skimp on the background or foreground, you've always got something going on somewhere that your eye can drift towards.
"Hope you ain't been shot dead"
The film moves away from the gothic and war setting and settles into a story of being handicapped post war romance. Now a hundred years later I'm not sure if the romance between a 17 year old and a guy near 30 but they address it and that's nice. The leads really make the romance work...I would actually say parts of this remind me of Douglas Sirk film from the 50's.
Looking through his filmography this might actually be my favorite Borzage film, makes me want to check out some of his other silent films.
3.5
Citizen Rules
06-23-19, 05:14 PM
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Who are all these people in the photo? I think I know them all except the first photo (top left) and the 10th photo (the woman with the mirror). Anyone know?
Chypmunk
06-23-19, 05:21 PM
First one is Valentino CR, not sure about the lady.
Citizen Rules
06-23-19, 05:25 PM
First one is Valentino CR....Of course, I should've known that. But the lady, I don't think I've seen her pic before.
Chypmunk
06-23-19, 05:45 PM
Of course, I should've known that. But the lady, I don't think I've seen her pic before.
Mebbe drop both Harold and Douglas an email - perhaps one of them will remember who they sat next to :)
cricket
06-23-19, 06:12 PM
Sadie Thompson
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I think it was one of the 30's HoFs that had a bunch of movies featuring prostitution, and here we have another one. That's usually a good thing for me since it usually means a darker movie. The print of this movie is not great, but for some I guess it's fortunate that it exists at all. That didn't bother me; it's just something I noticed. I liked the supporting cast and the dialogue via title cards. I didn't like much else unfortunately. I'm not a Gloria Swanson fan, and that's probably a big reason why I don't like Sunset Boulevard as much as most others. I hated the musical score which was friggin driving me bananas. The story was ok for a while but then I thought it got a bit stupid. The way they pieced together the ending, I guess they did what they could, but it certainly doesn't help the movie. I don't feel like I hated it but I didn't care for it. Sorry CR.
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cricket
06-23-19, 06:16 PM
By the way, the girl with the mirror is Mabel Normand.
Citizen Rules
06-23-19, 07:19 PM
By the way, the girl with the mirror is Mabel Normand.
Really, damn I never even heard of her.
cricket
06-23-19, 07:28 PM
Really, damn I never even heard of her.
Me neither
GulfportDoc
06-23-19, 08:30 PM
[Mabel Normand]Really, damn I never even heard of her.
Normand had been a huge star in Silents. She'd worked with every big comedian in Hollywood, but for Buster Keaton. She'd linked up early with Max Sennett, and was in many of his "Keystone Cops" comedies. She also worked frequently with Chaplin.
She had a string of bad luck and poor press. First, she had been associated with the sensationalized murder of director William Desmond Taylor, of which Normand had no part.
Second she had starred in many Fatty Arbuckle comedies, and had been linked with him; so when he was acquitted of rape, but yet the public soured on him, Normand's career was hurt because Arbuckle's films were pulled from circulation due to the scandals.
She was a tuberculosis victim, which may have later been exacerbated by her heavy drinking. She died at the close of the silent era at aged 37. But she'd been one of the greats.
~Doc
Really, damn I never even heard of her.
She starred in the first full length comedy, Tillie's Punctured Romance with Charlie Chaplin
Citizen Rules
06-24-19, 10:40 PM
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The Unknown (1927)
This was a really good film, I enjoyed it. It totally caught my interest and held my attention. Unlike a lot of silent dramas, it was easy to follow thanks to the focused story and the limited characters...by my count there were only four characters and that helped the story to come across without words. I loved the story line of an 'armless' carnival performer in love with a woman who detested men's hands. It was proper Tod Browning bizarre and that made the film pretty cool. Lon Chaney totally commanded the screen whenever he was in the camera's eye. I can't believe that was Joan Crawford! I couldn't see any resemblance to her in her later films. I read that 14 minutes are missing of this film, that's too bad as I would have loved to seen those lost scenes. The Unknown, is a silent that should be known.
Metropolis
This is a visually stunning and beautiful film, with rich sets and designs, and stunning camera work and mission. The story is definitely second to the technical aspects, but it’s interesting too, although I think it really should have been cut thirty or so minutes for a more concise experience... it got boring at the end. But for a two hour silent film, Metropolis held my attention remarkably well, and I hope to watch more Fritz Lang in the future.
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edarsenal
06-25-19, 08:43 PM
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The Kid
Title Card: A picture with a smile - and perhaps, a tear.
Which, kinda says it all.
A smile; very much so. And perhaps, a tear; surprisingly, not this time. Though it has been so very long because I do remember how much I used to bawl as a youngster and for the longest time I couldn't watch this because it was too heartbreaking for me. Even in my twenties, little baby Uncle Fester would affect me every time I saw them trying to haul him away and The Tramp valiantly coming to his aid. Literally, kicking @ss and taking names.
Though a little a curious to the why of not shedding a heart warming tear on this last viewing, nonetheless I was still enamored to The Kid's antics.
During the window breaking scenes when he pulls back to throw a rock and bumps a cop, it was like watching a young Tramp. Perhaps it was simply Chaplin's directing, but Jackie Coogan did such a great job of a child acting like his father while still being himself.
Like so many other Chaplin films, this does come from Charlie's heart, and even more so since the harshness of the orphanage and its offices are drawn from his own childhood while his mother was in an asylum.
There are a number of scenes, where we see within Charlie's heart and tormented memories, looking to right the past wrongs and to win, instead of losing to such establishments.
And he does.
And we love him for it.
Citizen Rules
06-25-19, 10:56 PM
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Lucky Star (1929)
Such a wonderful film with such an odd title, I mean what was a lucky star anyway? Well never mind I'm not really looking for an answer, just saying it was an odd title. Anyway let's cut to the chase...
...Director Frank Borzage knew how to world build! I swear I wasn't watching a movie, I was in the movie, somewhere deep in the Ozarks or some other backwoods place where poor people eke out a living by any means they could, even if that means hiding nickels in the dirt!
I'm amazed that during the silent era that this film could make such three dimensional scenes...with country roads that seem to go on forever. Even in today's CG crap-world they can't do what was done here, build atmosphere out of dirt and wood.
I was impressed by the way the film was lite with it's subdued lighting and what looked like fog or mist in the quiet country side, which really added depth and ambiance. Even more impressive is the way the director worked in all three dimensions with roads that twisted and went uphill right out of the screen...and Mary's house that was down low in a gully, beneath the dirt road like it was sunken from all hope. Gosh this film is stunning in it's look, but did I like the story?
...Yes I did! I'm a sucker for a love story and that's what this is, both Janet Gaynor (wow was she tiny or what!) and the two male leads were both good. I swear the one guy Wren, looked like George W. Bush on steroids. The ending was the only disappointment for me as it was a prime example of a deus ex machina...but that's OK because visually the movie rocked!
Citizen Rules
06-26-19, 11:58 PM
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Sadie Thompson (1928)
This is one of those films that didn't hit me to deeply at the beginning. But as the film went on, the pace intensified until I was deeply into the story. Then as we get to the final resolution of Sadie and the Preacher man, the damn last reel of film is missing! I hate that when that happens. I'd sure like to seen the missing reel. Overall an impressive movie even with the missing ending.
Citizen Rules
06-27-19, 12:22 AM
Well, I done gone watched Sadie Thompson...I've no idea who commissioned the modern score but I had to turn it off after a few minutes as to me it belonged far more to a crappy arcade game than a fillum :shrug:
Sadie Thompson
.....I hated the musical score which was friggin driving me bananas.
Guys, did we watch the same version of Sadie Thompson, because I liked the score. Where did you see it at? Maybe you heard a different score than I did.
Lucky Star
I hated the musical score and thought it really detracted from the movie...
Same question, where did you watch it? I thought Lucky Star with it's southern blue grass score was brilliant. I'm just wondering if there are different score versions out there? Or where you holding out for Creedence Clearwater Revival:p
cricket
06-27-19, 07:03 AM
Guys, did we watch the same version of Sadie Thompson, because I liked the score. Where did you see it at? Maybe you heard a different score than I did.
Same question, where did you watch it? I thought Lucky Star with it's southern blue grass score was brilliant. I'm just wondering if there are different score versions out there? Or where you holding out for Creedence Clearwater Revival:p
Lucky Star I watched on YouTube. I thought it was part bluegrass but also sometimes sounded like it was from a 50's Japanese movie. It just didn't fit to me.
I watched Sadie Thompson on internet archive. That score was the ultimate in annoying.
Chypmunk
06-27-19, 07:19 AM
Guys, did we watch the same version of Sadie Thompson, because I liked the score. Where did you see it at? Maybe you heard a different score than I did.
I watched Sadie Thompson on internet archive. That score was the ultimate in annoying.
Same place as crick - IA. The score on there belongs to a sh*tty video arcade game not a movie imho.
Citizen Rules
06-27-19, 12:59 PM
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I watched Sadie Thompson on internet archive. That score was the ultimate in annoying.
Same place as crick - IA. The score on there belongs to a sh*tty video arcade game not a movie imho. Oh bloody hell that score on the Internet Archive was bad. That was a crap copy. I agree it sounded like a video game. I'll send you a link to what a watched. If you're in the mind to give the score a listen for a few minutes, give it a listen.
Oh bloody hell that score on the Internet Archive was bad. That was a crap copy. I agree it sounded like a video game. I'll send you a link to what a watched. If you're in the mind to give the score a listen for a few minutes, give it a listen.
Do you realize I was just writing up my review when you sent me that link....
ah well....I got The Man who laughs in the mail today so I'll do that one.
Citizen Rules
06-27-19, 01:51 PM
Do you realize I was just writing up my review when you sent me that link....
ah well....I got The Man who laughs in the mail today so I'll do that one.I must be psychic;)
Did you buy The Man Who Laughs? Or is it from Netflix DVD? I have a version of it, but it has Spanish subs, but I don't speak Spanish unlike last nights Democratic Presidential hopefuls:p
I must be psychic;)
Did you buy The Man Who Laughs? Or is it from Netflix DVD? I have a version of it, but it has Spanish subs, but I don't speak Spanish unlike last nights Democratic Presidential hopefuls:p
Netflix DVD got that and Angel Face
Faust
Not bad at all. I loved the technical aspects, like the really good special effects and wonderful dark and serene images. A lot of this films is just poetical, like the visuals are writing a poem. The plot, much like Metropolis, seems to not be the most important part, and that’s okay. So an overall thumbs up for Faust.
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cricket
06-27-19, 05:24 PM
Netflix DVD got that and Angel Face
I also just got Angel Face from Netflix
cricket
06-29-19, 08:13 AM
The Unknown
Although it has an interesting plot, The Unknown failed to grab me. I didn't really like any of the characters, and the plot is already fading on me even though I watched it only a day or two ago. What I recall was that there was a very touchy man who would constantly make the woman nervous, and she goes to an armless man (who's not really armless) for protection... but the really sexually aggressive man gets the girl in the end and the man who has his arms cut off to marry her ends up trampled by a horse... both were kind of jerks. The theme/moral really stumped me, I guess it's..."Be really touchy with women and they'll eventually succumb and fall in love with you"...? So, kind of confusing but not actually that bad technically wise.
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After watching it I'm so puzzled by your point of view that I can't even believe we watched the same movie. The "touchy" and "sexually aggressive" man you speak of came off to me as a really nice guy.
cricket
06-29-19, 10:42 AM
The Unknown
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I knew immediately when the pulsating score started over MGM's Lion insignia that I was going to love this. It reminded me of something that could be a segment from Creepshow except longer and much better. That score was awesome so I had it on full volume with my headphones on. It's so diabolical and suited to my taste. The four main characters and performances are just right. A wonderful companion piece to the director's also great Freaks.
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Sherlock Jr.
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My third time watching, and while I wouldn't consider myself a big fan, I can't deny the excellence within. For whatever reason the movie loses me for about 15 minutes after he falls asleep. It's happened all 3 times I've watched it. I love everything before and after. I'm sure it will do very well on the countdown.
3.5
The Unknown
Although it has an interesting plot, The Unknown failed to grab me. I didn't really like any of the characters, and the plot is already fading on me even though I watched it only a day or two ago. What I recall was that there was a very touchy man who would constantly make the woman nervous, and she goes to an armless man (who's not really armless) for protection... but the really sexually aggressive man gets the girl in the end and the man who has his arms cut off to marry her ends up trampled by a horse... both were kind of jerks. The theme/moral really stumped me, I guess it's..."Be really touchy with women and they'll eventually succumb and fall in love with you"...? So, kind of confusing but not actually that bad technically wise.
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After watching it I'm so puzzled by your point of view that I can't even believe we watched the same movie. The "touchy" and "sexually aggressive" man you speak of came off to me as a really nice guy.
I just thought she was clearly not enjoying his company but he kept pushing it. I didn’t like either of them all that much.
Citizen Rules
06-29-19, 12:11 PM
I just thought she was clearly not enjoying his company but he kept pushing it. I didn’t like either of them all that much.That's what I thought too when they first show the carnival strong man, I took it the film was saying he was the baddie. But later in the film he's shown to be a more nicer guy, almost the underdog.
cricket
06-29-19, 12:19 PM
Yea that's how I thought it would play out at first, with him as the bad guy and Chaney the sympathetic figure.
Citizen Rules
06-29-19, 12:58 PM
I thought the strong man's arms would be cut off by Lon Chaney who would then sew them onto this own body. That would have been kind of different.
cricket
06-30-19, 02:29 PM
Pandora's Box
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I nominated this because of how much I loved Diary of a Lost Girl. It didn't blow me away like I had hoped but it's still one heck of a movie. It's extremely risqué and dark which of course suits me perfectly. Louise Brooks commands the screen more than most actresses of her day or since. She lived quite the wild life like several stars of that time. I was thinking where I knew another character named Lulu from, and then it hit me, Melanie Griffith's alter ego from 1986's excellent Something Wild. That character was most definitely inspired by this Lulu. I really liked everything about this movie except at times it felt a little slow. I certainly didn't expect it to go where it went in the end.
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cricket
06-30-19, 02:33 PM
I'm done and my votes are sent
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Sadie Thompson, well I was already to rip it apart for the terrible score so my review's been ruined. :p But really the score is only half the problem the print that exists just isn't good, it's an incomplete film and the question is can you judge this film against what has been generally speaking a strong Hall with fully put together pieces of work.
The movie is a drama, Lionel Barrymore is fun as the villain though he's a little OTT even for silent films. The story is somewhat compelling though very familiar. Gloria Swanson is the star of the film and she carry's it well enough but as I sit back and reflect on the film will I remember anything about this a week from now..
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Sadie Thompson
I actually liked this more than I expected, but it was still kind of a drag. Although it wasn’t even very long, they should have cut down on the run time, the story didn’t feel like 1.5 hours of content, maybe an hour. However, I liked the characters, the representation of old vs. new, and the setting. The idea of the reformers were so interesting. I also liked the music!! (In Citizen Rules link)
The Man Who Laughs
This movie grabbed me tight in the beginning until we fast forward to when most of the story takes place. Instead of being a cool period piece, it turned into a boring romance that I wasn’t a huge fan of. The moments with Queen Anne were excellent, and you can totally see the inspiration for the Joker in Batman in this movie... in that way it’s groundbreaking, but what could have been a masterpiece was simply a decent film.
edarsenal
07-01-19, 08:08 PM
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Faust
Faust: I call thee for help, O Spirit of Darkness: Show thyself! Come forth, evil demon! I call to thee as thou callest thyself, by thy unholy name: MEMPHISTO, appear!
PERSONAL SOUNDTRACK: like previously with Pandora's Box, I opted out of the soundtrack provided and did some old school Dio with Rainbow's Rising and then Long Live Rock albums, followed by Judas Priest's Sin After Sin album from 1977.
And, as previously, it actually synced up rather nicely with this film.
This was a blind grab for me and I rather enjoyed the imagery through the first two thirds of the film. The German Impressionism and creativity (for it's time) was done very well. Setting the mood of The Devil wagering against a Saint for dominion over the Earth and using one good man's soul as stakes.
While at times a bit cartoonish, I did enjoy Mephisto's smirking ways and how he'd manipulate the results of Faust's wishes to create doom. Not sure why, but that smirk reminded me of Rip Torn, at times.
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The love hookup did cause the movie to lag a bit,girl's brother is murdered and she's left with her baby and what becomes of them, it definitely picked up a bit.
Speaking of, considering that the brother jokes with her about "so, any lovers?" and then condemns her with his dying breath was such a serious d!ck move.
The same goes for how everyone she went to, trying to save her child, ignored her and THEN, when the child dies from exposure, the guards show up and call her a murderer.
How f@ckin TYPICAL was that?!
Still, very happy I got this as a blind grab and enjoyed seeing it.
edarsenal
07-01-19, 10:19 PM
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The Unknown
Alonzo the Armless: No one will get her... no one but me!
While Freaks is Browning's masterpiece, (for many of us) The Unknown is very much a preliminary sketch work with a similar setting and story points regarding a love triangle.
I was hooked from the get-go til the very end.
Unlike other silents so far, the soundtrack to this was perfect and needed no substitution and added just the right mood and intensity to what occurs on film.
With other films, under heavy makeup, from the Phantom of the Opera to The Hunchback of Notre Dame, this very well may be the first time I've seen Lon Chaney's face in a film and all of those sublime emotions in other films, are stark and bold, here. Pretty amazing stuff.
Also, there was one scene with Joan Crawford, with her head slightly back and her eyes wide, did I actually recognize her. Otherwise, if I didn't see her name in the opening, there was no way I would have known.
Surprisingly, I don't have much to say, but, believe me, I fully enjoyed this film.
edarsenal
07-01-19, 10:21 PM
As I go through these films I see it's going to be harder and harder to work out a list.
Citizen Rules
07-01-19, 10:34 PM
As I go through these films I see it's going to be harder and harder to work out a list.I hear ya! I could see the majority of the noms being my #1. So far there's only one film I didn't really care for. I'm going to try and watch my last three noms soon. So far Cricket and Ahwell have sent in their voting list.
gbgoodies
07-01-19, 10:59 PM
FYI: Metropolis (1927) is scheduled to air on Turner Classic Movies (TCM) tomorrow night (Tuesday) at 8:30 PM EASTERN TIME.
CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR THE CORRECT TIME IN YOUR AREA!
edarsenal
07-02-19, 10:59 PM
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Marianne
And all this over a stolen pig --
C'est l'amour, c'est la comédie.
As a farm is taken over by a troop of American doughboys at the end of WWI, Marianne, having sworn her love to Andre, finds herself falling Private Stagg while his two comedic sidekicks; Sam and Soapy cause us to wonder if this is a Romance, A Musical, or a Comedy. . . and while it can easily be all three, it may have been wiser to pick one, or two. But, in the end, who's to say.
I do want to see Marion Davies, sans her bad French accent, in another role since she does make quite the impression.
And I did enjoy Benny Rubin, even more so after looking him up, later in his life and recognizing him from quite a few small parts.
While this wasn't a must see, it was worthwhile for the two above actors.
Citizen Rules
07-03-19, 01:21 PM
Ed nicely says, 'Marianne sucks!':p...It was a blind nom and I wouldn't have nominated if I had watched it first. It sounded 'good on paper' but is a bit of a mess of a movie. It would've been interesting if my two noms were both Marianne, the talkie and the silent. I have a feeling the silent is a much better film, as the talkie had new scenes filmed to take advantage of the sound abilities in 1929. But the film uses those added in scenes for songs, jokes and a crazy French accent which doesn't really add to the story...I'm glad you liked Marion Davies, I've only seen her once and she impressed. Maybe we'll see 'Rosebud' again in a future HoF.
edarsenal
07-03-19, 03:02 PM
Ed nicely says, 'Marianne sucks!':p...It was a blind nom and I wouldn't have nominated if I had watched it first. It sounded 'good on paper' but is a bit of a mess of a movie. It would've been interesting if my two noms were both Marianne, the talkie and the silent. I have a feeling the silent is a much better film, as the talkie had new scenes filmed to take advantage of the sound abilities in 1929. But the film uses those added in scenes for songs, jokes and a crazy French accent which doesn't really add to the story...I'm glad you liked Marion Davies, I've only seen her once and she impressed. Maybe we'll see 'Rosebud' again in a future HoF.
I agree that the Silent is more likely the better of the two. As you said, on paper it sounds like a great film and there are some beautiful moments; the opening, those moments after Andre returns home and Stagg comes to say goodbye as he and Marianne share words that Andre mistakes for her sentiments for him.
I'm guessing that throwing in all the extras for the new thing "sound" was kind of like George Lucas throwing in new effects for Star Wars; unneeded.
edarsenal
07-06-19, 11:00 PM
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The Man Who Laughs
To die is nothing. Not to live is frightful. ~ Victor Hugo
From the great French Romantic Writer Victor Hugo's L'homme qui rit, who is best known for writing Les Misérable and Hunchback of Notre Dame, this film, due to it's more "grotesque" aspect has been very much mislabeled as a Horror when, in fact, it is, much like Hugo's work is a melodramatic romance.
Our central figure, Gywnplaine is a tragic figure who's outward deformity, much like Quasimodo from HoND, causes him to be treated as a freak by everyone else. A common thread of Hugo's writing (from the very limited knowledge I have of him)
And, as I've stated, this is a romance. With a Germanic expressionist interpretation that brings the emotional and psychological implications with a visual artistry. Seeing Gywnplaine's misery, living with the surgical mistreatment dealt to him as a child in nearly every scene as he continues to hide his "smile" from everyone. Even his love, the blind Dea who "sees" the real Gywnplaine and the beauty within.
Knowing that this is not a Horror but a Romance IS paramount to the enjoyment of this film.
While much of the political accompaniment is left out from the story, the director, Paul Leni still creates an emotionally provoking world scape of both rural and royal England. A lot of the really amazing cinematography appearing in the beginning and especially in the "chase" at the end of the film.
I've been very happy to finally see this "blind grab" and I will be placing it on my list for the Countdown.
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The Unknown and The Man Who Laughs are a pair of circus tragedy-horror type films. I liked both films, Lon Chaney would often diaspear in makeup but the Unknown shows us that he was an incredibly capable actor without the prosthetic as he plays.
The Man Who Laughs had Conrad Veidt playing a man permanently scared and the rightful heir to the throne. Veidt is good but the film felt long and kind wore me out so much of the film felt like filler on the otherhand The Unknown is almost too quick. It bounces around from plot point to plot point at a frantic pace so that at the end you feel like you could seen much more from the characters.
You've got a second act reveal in The Unknown that could have had a much bigger influence had Browning spent more time establishing the characters or adding to the plot. Still I found myself more engaged with The Unknown than The Man who Laughs, I think romance is somewhat difficult to convey in silent works while horror is more easier.
Not to say The Man who Laughs doesn't have strengths that The Unknown didn't have. The budget seems greater and we had a number of excellent set pieces I just felt like once we moved out of the circus we lost the more interesting characters and the movie lost it's way a bit.
The Unknown 3.5
The Man Who Laughs 3
Citizen Rules
07-07-19, 03:28 PM
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Faust (F.W. Murnau, 1926)
Visually an amazing film that must have held 1920s audiences spellbound with the movie making magic that F.W. Murnau brought to the classic tale of Faust. It's like the director was a great, great grandfather of Steven Spielberg. I was impressed by the special effects in the film I mean it boggles the mind how nearly a 100 years ago they were able to bring this tale with all of it's supernatural images to life.
A great film, but on a personally level I didn't really enjoy it. I'm not familiar with the story of Faust, though I've seen movies where people foolishly make a deal with the devil. I had no idea that the 'crossroads devil summoning' went back that far, there was a similar scene in Crossroads (1986). I didn't really like the actors or connect to them and that then caused me not to be in the movie or care about their plight. Though I can't deny it was a spectacular film for it's time.
edarsenal
07-09-19, 03:17 PM
I'm about halfway through Lucky Star; didn't have enough time to finish it last night and will be attempting to knock it out tonight.
I'm trying to help knock this one out so CR can make a second one before the Countdown.
Citizen Rules
07-09-19, 04:52 PM
I'm about halfway through Lucky Star; didn't have enough time to finish it last night and will be attempting to knock it out tonight.
I'm trying to help knock this one out so CR can make a second one before the Countdown.Me and you are in the same boat. I still have two noms to watch, and a bunch of movies from the library I need to see before I get a late fee. Somehow I'll do it:p
edarsenal
07-09-19, 05:50 PM
Me and you are in the same boat. I still have two noms to watch, and a bunch of movies from the library I need to see before I get a late fee. Somehow I'll do it:p
that reminds me I owe at my library, need to pay that very soon. lol
edarsenal
07-10-19, 08:02 PM
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Lucky Star
Daddy, tell us how you met mommy?
Well, she tried to steal a nickel from a jerk I worked with, so I whooped her butt fer it.
A pleasant little love story with a truly amazing background layout and some even more amazing camerawork.
So much so I'm VERY intrigued to see two other Borzge films with the two leads; Farrel and Gaynor, Street Angel (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019429/?ref_=tt_sims_tti) and 7th Heaven (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018379/?ref_=tt_sims_tt) which I was curious about after seeing the remake with James Stewart and Simone Simon for the 30s Countdown.
I think Cricket described this best as being a schmaltzy romance and it is pleasingly so. Though there are times that drag through the second half as the relationship develops, it is still enjoyable and truly wonderful to glimpse the camerawork and the realistic backdrops that really put you in the Ozarks.
Also, it needs to be mentioned that Guinn 'Big Boy' Williams did a splendid job playing a slime-ball braggart.
Citizen Rules
07-10-19, 08:10 PM
Ed, is that 8 for you now? I try not to miss any write-ups, but you know I'm only human:p
edarsenal
07-10-19, 08:12 PM
Ed, is that 8 for you now? I try not to miss any write-ups, but you know I'm only human:p
Yep, that's 8. I just need to see Sadie Thompson and Metropolis
Citizen Rules
07-11-19, 10:25 PM
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The Man Who Laughs (1928)
I swear that's Madonna circa 1990 in that screen shot. And yeah I've said that before about Freaks. That's Olga Baclanova in both films btw. I've seen this film before, in fact I was considering nominating it myself. I think it's a fine film based on the French author Victor Hugo's work, Hugo also wrote Les Miserables and The Hunchback of Notre Dame. And in the last chase scene when Gwynplaine is trapped in a castle looking tower, the crane shot of him looking down at the pursuing crowd below from atop of the buildings pinnacle, reminded me of the same scene with Lon Chaney in The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
To me The Man Who Laughs isn't so much about the story or the world building or even the look of the film. To me it's about one thing...the sustained look of nervous fear on the face of the great Conrad Veidt. Matching that frozen look of a nightmarish grin carved in his face, is the beautifully serene gaze of the elfin like Mary Philbin as Dea. Those expressions spoke volumes and conveyed inner being that no narrative could.
The Man Who Laughs will figure high on my list. Then again lots of these noms are going to be high on my list, and they can't all be at the top. Well, I'll figure out my voting order after I re-watch Metropolis.
edarsenal
07-11-19, 11:16 PM
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The Man Who Laughs (1928)
To me The Man Who Laughs isn't so much about the story or the world building or even the look of the film. To me it's about one thing...the sustained look of nervous fear on the face of the great Conrad Veidt. Matching that frozen look of a nightmarish grin carved in his face, is the beautifully serene gaze of the elfin like Mary Philbin as Dea. Those expressions spoke volumes and conveyed inner being that no narrative could.
I agree about the beautiful complimenting effect of the two's expressions. Nicely written.
Apparently there's a recent remake of this film with the french title L'homme qui rit and, instead, Gwynpaine has two slits from the corners of his mouth. This is a far more effective visual and Veidt's inner turmoil shuddering from beneath that colossal grin really speaks volumes.
edarsenal
07-13-19, 09:08 PM
Watched Metropolis (with extended scenes) on youtube where there were two versions with different music. Went with classical music which was really really good. Should have a review up tonight or the next day or two.
Should be knocking out my final one, Sadie Thompson in the next couple of days as well.
CosmicRunaway
07-14-19, 06:24 AM
Watched Metropolis (with extended scenes) on youtube where there were two versions with different music. Went with classical music which was really really good.
I think the hardest thing about watching older silent films is deciding which music is the best fit.
Years ago I saw a version of Metropolis accompanied by heavy metal, and it worked really well. Classical was probably a better choice though haha.
edarsenal
07-14-19, 07:11 AM
I think the hardest thing about watching older silent films is deciding which music is the best fit.
Years ago I saw a version of Metropolis accompanied by heavy metal, and it worked really well. Classical was probably a better choice though haha.
I've done a few variations on some of these. Had a Blues compilation that was excellent for Pandora's Box and I listened to old Rainbow albums with Dio singing for Faust that synced up rather nicely.
So I'm sure metal to Metropolis would probably be pretty cool.
Citizen Rules
07-16-19, 10:39 PM
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Metropolis (1927)
"Fathers for whom every revolution of a machine wheel meant gold had created for their sons the miracle of the Eternal Gardens."
Tell me more about those Eternal Gardens!
Metropolis starts off deep and heady. Right off the bat we're introduced to all sorts of interesting futuristic things and in a very short time. We never find out what the Eternal Gardens are all about but we can use our imaginations.
Unlike some silent films, Metropolis hooked me from the start. Right away we see the big city and those gardens with girls on parade, and we see the city designer's son who's beset to choose one of the lovely garden decorations! Then he spots a poor girl surrounded by starving children and is smitten. I don't know why, she wasn't that hot looking, but I guess he's a man of deep character and he's had enough of the weekly trollops. So he follows the girl to the bowls of the city and discovers there a hellish world of people slaving away to machines. Now that's a hook!
And for the next hour I was memorized by the technical cinema achievements that Fritz Lang was able to reproduce on screen. Audiences back in 1927 must have set with their jaws dropped at the sights of Metropolis...I noticed great detail in the interior shots of bedrooms and offices too. The furniture, the art design all looked futuristic to me. And all those extra actors! OMG this is a huge, huge epic film. It's literally a monument to Fritz Lang.
Metropolis isn't just long, I mean it felt long. At 2 hours and 33 minutes the last 90 minutes dragged and that's because for all the grandiose sets and cinematic achievements, there's not a great story to be had. The last part of the film meanders and hits upon religious and political themes without really every exploring them. And the end scene that resolved the big worker's riot with a mere handshake is very unsatisfying.
However I still hold the film in great regard for it's amazing scope and artistic design. I love the look of the robot before it's transformed into Maria. And I loved the transformation scene itself. OMG! for it's time that was beyond amazing. And I loved the German expressionistic approach to film making. Those scenes of the workers marching to work as the sway back and forth with heads held down like mere clogs in the machine...that was amazing.
Gosh the fully restored HD quality was a thing of joy to watch. Last time I seen this it was the shorter version and poor quality. Metropolis will be making my Pre 1930s Countdown list and figure prominently on it. I'm so glad I got a chance to see this again.
edarsenal
07-17-19, 09:06 PM
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Metropolis
Flash Card: One man's hymn of praise became other men's curses
It's pretty easy to see why Metropolis is in the echelon of iconic films that, while not everyone has seen, they do know of or have heard of it.
Fritz Lang went all out when creating and filming this. From the 37,000 extras to the futuristic details in the various rooms and the city-scape,
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creating something that would outlast his own lifetime.
With the dark, zombie-like walk into work (the machines) as we, along with Freder, discover what dismal existence is mete out to the workers to attain the utopia that he and his fellow upper citizens enjoy, to the eventual uprising; we are hooked and remain so.
While I did find Freder a bit on the lukewarm side, there were a number of others that really shined in this film.
Fritz Rasp's Thin Man had such a great foreboding, I easily saw him as inspiration for countless long-limbed enforcers since.
Rudolf Klein-Rogge DID get a bit over the top as the Inventor, his mad scientist got a little comic bookish at times, he still was a great sight to behold.
And, of course, Brigette Helm was truly phenomenal, ESPECIALLY when playing the Machine Man impersonating Maria
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with such robotic mischief. Absolutely loved those scenes as she roused and incited the crowds into rioting.
A pretty extraordinary film and I'm VERY glad to see the extended, polished rendition of this film.
Also, while there were two musical scores on youtube, I went with the classical music which really added to the enjoyment of this. Though, after reading Cosmic's viewing with metal music I would be VERY curious to try it out that way as well. I'm sure it would be freakin' awesome.
Like CR, this WILL be on my Countdown List, without a doubt.
Citizen Rules
07-22-19, 01:48 PM
@Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448) @edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536)
Today is July 22nd the deadline, how are you guys doing? It looks like you each have 1 more movie to go. If you've already watched it, you can send in your voting list now and do a write-up later. So let me know how it's going?
edarsenal
07-22-19, 02:04 PM
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Sadie Thompson
Dr. Angus McPhail: Tolerance is such a splendid virtue it's a pity so few of us have it.
Rather liked that statement written in the autograph book of the ship officer following the Davidsons' zealous remarks. Followed by Sadie's Smile, Bozo, smile, for no matter how tough it is today it's bound to be worse tomorrow." and you have all the set up you need for this film.
Lionel Barrymore's unforgiving Reformist character is literally, hellbent to stamp out evil as he sees it. One particular statement he makes really delves into this on so many levels, regarding how he thought so little of the natives since they didn't know what sin even was and how he was damn sure to teach them.
He sets his damning eyes on Sadie, who is having far too much fun and proceeds to destroy her by using his political sway to send her back to San Francisco where jail time awaits her for something she states she was framed for.
No matter. She is evil, in Davidson's cold eyes, and must repent and be cast down.
The hypocrisy of religious condemnations that ignore the basic dogma of compassion and forgiveness is the core of this film and it is taken, nearly, it's full spectrum. Sadie escapes being sent back to jail and finds the promise of love and happiness with Seargent O'Hara, who, amongst every guy smitten for her, is the one she becomes smitten with.
While the climax of the film IS missing, the stills and dialogue do fill us in quite nicely.
how quickly they pass off Davidson's suicide as just that. It's the method that made me wonder: throat slit? That's not a typical suicide. It IS a typical murder. Perhaps, simply that Davidson was so hated for pissing on the pleasures of a paradise that they were more than happy to close it up and pass it off.
That was the only aspect that I would have liked to have seen to get a better feel for how it transpired.
Still, Swanson was great and this was a great finish to a great HoF.
Oh, and the scene where she's cussing and calling Davidson every swear word she can come up with and no dialogue card appeared made me laugh.
edarsenal
07-22-19, 02:05 PM
@Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448) @edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536)
Today is July 22nd the deadline, how are you guys doing? It looks like you each have 1 more movie to go. If you've already watched it, you can send in your voting list now and do a write-up later. So let me know how it's going?
Just posted my review and going to get my vote together shortly.
edarsenal
07-22-19, 02:10 PM
And Sent
Nostromo87
07-22-19, 03:06 PM
Enjoy seeing Tod Browning and Lon Chaney's film The Unknown (1927) getting a go-ahead. Late one night I viewed this unique and entrancing movie a few years back. He Who Gets Slapped (1924) and Laugh, Clown, Laugh (1928) are two more to put alongside Chaney's other more known commodities from the 1920s (Hunchback and The Phantom). Another I've been wanting to see for a while is The Unholy Three (1925) .
edarsenal
07-22-19, 06:17 PM
Enjoy seeing Tod Browning and Lon Chaney's film The Unknown (1927) getting a go-ahead. Late one night I viewed this unique and entrancing movie a few years back. He Who Gets Slapped (1924) and Laugh, Clown, Laugh (1928) are two more to put alongside Chaney's other more known commodities from the 1920s (Hunchback and The Phantom). Another I've been wanting to see for a while is The Unholy Three (1925) .
Laugh, Clown, Laugh COMPLETELY shot past my radar!
I've always been curious about that one since forever, THANKS
cricket
07-22-19, 06:35 PM
Enjoy seeing Tod Browning and Lon Chaney's film The Unknown (1927) getting a go-ahead. Late one night I viewed this unique and entrancing movie a few years back. He Who Gets Slapped (1924) and Laugh, Clown, Laugh (1928) are two more to put alongside Chaney's other more known commodities from the 1920s (Hunchback and The Phantom). Another I've been wanting to see for a while is The Unholy Three (1925) .
Was already planning on watching The Unholy Three and will check the others out too. Thanks for the recs!
@Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448) @edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536)
Today is July 22nd the deadline, how are you guys doing? It looks like you each have 1 more movie to go. If you've already watched it, you can send in your voting list now and do a write-up later. So let me know how it's going?
alright I'll do that
Citizen Rules
07-22-19, 11:53 PM
I have all the voting list in, thanks guys! I'll do the reveal asap when I can. Hopefully tomorrow. I haven't added anything up but there's a clear favorite for #1 and a clear favorite for last place:eek:
https://www.denverlibrary.org/sites/dplorg/files/styles/large/public/2019-05/Pandora-s-Box-pandoras-box-1929-15443272-399-303.jpg?itok=p7oG7GSx
Pandora's Box(1929) is the story of a lose women living that European lifestyle. It's fairly jarring to see a lesbian subplot this early but when you consider that this was Germany and fairly common it's certainly something. Louise Brooks is really good in this I can't imagine anyone else playing this character. I would actually recommend people tracking down the documentary they did on her that's on the Criterion set.
Another thing I loved about the film isn't just that is was in black and white but also the use of color in the movie. How we get this complicated female and yet we see her constantly in either black or white. Really good nomination hope it does well.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 03:33 PM
Is everyone done then?Everyone is done and I have the results calculated. I'll do the results later tonight and do the @ mention thing before hand so you guys hopefully can follow along. It won't take long to post the results.
Chypmunk
07-23-19, 03:36 PM
Watched them all, looking forward to seeing what order they end up achieving.
rauldc14
07-23-19, 03:48 PM
I wasn't in this one, but I'm thinking Metropolis or Sherlock Jr. get inducted.
Does anyone think it slights a film to get inducted in a specialty HOF compared to a general? It just seems like a general winner is more prestigious to me, but of course, I'm probably taking this all too seriously, having been in so many.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 05:22 PM
I wasn't in this one, but I'm thinking Metropolis or Sherlock Jr. get inducted.
Does anyone think it slights a film to get inducted in a specialty HOF compared to a general? It just seems like a general winner is more prestigious to me, but of course, I'm probably taking this all too seriously, having been in so many.
I kind of look at them almost equally. While General is just a bit higher covering a full range, Specialties are kind of like the breakdown at Oscars or any given Award show.
So, General = Best Film
Specialty = All other Categories
cricket
07-23-19, 05:55 PM
I wasn't in this one, but I'm thinking Metropolis or Sherlock Jr. get inducted.
Does anyone think it slights a film to get inducted in a specialty HOF compared to a general? It just seems like a general winner is more prestigious to me, but of course, I'm probably taking this all too seriously, having been in so many.
I don't think a specialty winner is slighted but I do think of the General as more prestigious, like Ed said the main category.
We're doing a Part 2 of this right? I actually only have 17 movies I could put on my Countdown List so I kinda need one!
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 06:22 PM
We're doing a Part 2 of this right? I actually only have 17 movies I could put on my Countdown List so I kinda need one! Yeah, let's do a Part 2, if everyone wants to? Ed said he would, I would. I bet cricket and Siddon would too.
For this HoF I went with two blind noms that didn't do well. I didn't even like them that much myself. So for Part 2 I'm going with A-material, with the hopes that some of you guys like it enough to make your Top Countdown list. So being thinking of your noms and I'll do the reveal in about 4 hours. I have to go back to work right now, I'm on a 30 minute lunch break and time is up.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 06:25 PM
....Does anyone think it slights a film to get inducted in a specialty HOF compared to a general? It just seems like a general winner is more prestigious to me, but of course, I'm probably taking this all too seriously, having been in so many. I don't think it slights it, but like Cricket and Ed said the General HoF is the biggie. Raul you should join Part 2 of the Pre 30s HoF.:)
rauldc14
07-23-19, 06:37 PM
I don't think it slights it, but like Cricket and Ed said the General HoF is the biggie. Raul you should join Part 2 of the Pre 30s HoF.:)
That all depends on if I can wrap up the 19th and make a big dent in the animation one. Don't want too much on my plate but I would consider joining.
How much longer till the pre 1930s countdown. Think I've only seen about 23 films before 1930 so far.
cricket
07-23-19, 06:44 PM
That all depends on if I can wrap up the 19th and make a big dent in the animation one. Don't want too much on my plate but I would consider joining.
How much longer till the pre 1930s countdown. Think I've only seen about 23 films before 1930 so far.
Without looking I think you have a little over two months.
I will be in part two of this.
We're doing a Part 2 of this right? I actually only have 17 movies I could put on my Countdown List so I kinda need one! Yeah, let's do a Part 2, if everyone wants to? Ed said he would, I would. I bet cricket and Siddon would too.
For this HoF I went with two blind noms that didn't do well. I didn't even like them that much myself. So for Part 2 I'm going with A-material, with the hopes that some of you guys like it enough to make your Top Countdown list. So being thinking of your noms and I'll do the reveal in about 4 hours. I have to go back to work right now, I'm on a 30 minute lunch break and time is up.
Nice, I’m also doing two blind noms that are considered classics and I haven’t gotten around to seeing them.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 06:59 PM
I went with two blind and curious to see where they placed, I even had them around mid to low point just because there were films I enjoyed more and will probably going with at least one, most likely two blind grabs again
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:41 PM
ahwell cricket edarsenal Siddon
Here comes the reveal of the noms. Nothing too fancy.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:44 PM
Let's do this! WOO HOO
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Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:45 PM
Coming in Dead Last and making HoF history!:cool: is:
10th Place
Marianne
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=55084
8 points
Citizen Rules
Making HoF history as I'm the first person (as far as I know) to vote their own nom last!
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:46 PM
I think that is a first. I know I've gone low on one of mine, but not that low.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:47 PM
I still say it suffered a George Lucas adding a punch when no punch was needed situation
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:48 PM
9th Place
Sadie Thompson
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=55319
15 points
Citizen Rules
Who didn't put Marianne last?
I believe this was my #9. It was a tossup between that and Lucky Star for the bottom two spots.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:49 PM
Had Sadie at #7.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:49 PM
Yes, I'm honored to have last and second to last place:p
I had Marianna at 10 and Sadie at 8
Who didn't put Marianne last?
Me. Sadie Thompson I had at #7.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:50 PM
8th Place
Faust
https://oneperfectshot.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/faust.jpg
22 points
Edarsenal
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:51 PM
Yes, I'm honored to have last and second to last place:p
A New Low!
Kind of a proud moment actually. In a Fight Club Hitting Bottom sort of way.
Aw... I liked Faust, had it at #3.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:52 PM
I'm a little bummed about 7th place as I really liked this next film.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:53 PM
Looks like I'm right after you, CR. I voted Faust (one of mine) at #8 as well.
So I guess that makes us kind of kindred spirits as it were lol
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:53 PM
7th Place
Lucky Star
https://michaelgloversmith.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/lucky.jpg
23 Points
Cricket
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:54 PM
Aw... I liked Faust, had it at #3.
I found it pretty amazing visually, but there were so many other films I liked more in this HoF.
But, thank you!
Damn Unknown did well...once again I scored Lucky Star very highly very happy with that one.
Lucky Star was my #10. Was not a fan.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:55 PM
Cricket had his own nom Lucky Star at #9. So I guess some of us voted our own noms real low, which is cool:)
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:55 PM
enjoyed Lucky Star. The backgrounds were incredible in that.
It was at #6 for me.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:56 PM
6th Place
The Man Who Laughs
https://silentfilm.blob.core.windows.net/assets/Standard/PAGE/28018/large/Man%20Who%20Laughs.2web.jpg
24 points
Edarsenal
First “perfectly placed” movie. I also had Man who Laughs at 6.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:57 PM
Half way done folks. Here we go....
edarsenal
07-23-19, 10:57 PM
Middle ground for my second nom, I'll take it. It will be going on the Countdown List even though I had it at #5.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:58 PM
5th Place
The Unknown
https://media.tenor.com/images/2594f8731c588cf111a0d0e2a2c3fa22/tenor.gif
26 points
Siddon
Neither of my noms have showed up yet, so I’m happy. One of them was a blind nom, but I actually had it higher!
The Unknown was my 8. I don’t know, it just didn’t work very well for me.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 10:59 PM
I'm just going with the pics you guys used for you reviews, that's why that one is small. I thought The Unknown was a great surprise, it really held my attention.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:00 PM
Unknown was solid but got kicked down to #9 for me. No dislike, just ended up there with others I enjoyed more.
That's higher than I ranked it and I nominated it
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:01 PM
I'm just going with the pics you guys used for you reviews, that's why that one is small. I thought The Unknown was a great surprise, it really held my attention.
considering this VERY EARLY films, a basic setup seems apropos
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:01 PM
4th Place
Sherlock Jr
http://www.newbedfordguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/unknown-theater.jpg
30 points
Ahwell
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:02 PM
That's higher than I ranked it and I nominated it
Looks like Siddon has joined in the Voted My Nom Low Club. lol
I had my own nom at 5, lower than it’s placement... so I’m happy.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:02 PM
I'm sure Sherlock Jr is going to place high in the Pre 30s Countdown. I know it will be on my list.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:03 PM
Sherlock Jr was #3 for me. Made me realized just how much of his work I've foolishly gone without watching all my life.
Looks like Siddon has joined in the Voted My Nom Low Club. lol
No I just really liked this Hall...
Sherlock Jr...first one that placed right where I had it
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:04 PM
3rd Place
The Kid
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--z02uDoHY--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/arm1u2lojzl7pfnyyrgq.jpg
38 points
Siddon
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:04 PM
yeah, some great films in this HoF - totally agree
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:04 PM
I loved The Kid, Chaplin is great as an actor, director and writer. It wasn't my number one but that's only because we had such great films in this HoF.
Cool another one I voted high. Had the Kid at 4. Which means the next two are my 1 and 2, so I’m real happy.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:05 PM
Place your bets which film is #2 and which is #1
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:06 PM
This SHOULD have been #3 but since I've missed out on Keaton my entire life, I put my all time favorite silent comedian one step below at #4.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:06 PM
Place your bets which film is #2 and which is #1
#2 Pandora
#1 Metropolis
which is actually how I placed them
Place your bets which film is #2 and which is #1
Doesn’t matter to me , I loved both, but I think metropolis will take it.
rauldc14
07-23-19, 11:08 PM
I really want to see The Kid again. I gave it 7/10 but I think I underrated it.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:09 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/d5b699504b34f3a96d6869ce70e64097/tenor.gif?itemid=7389474
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:10 PM
2nd Place
Pandora's Box
https://66.media.tumblr.com/776618dc9e5a934356fd8e9ce3a39792/tumblr_ov8ttwewkL1skn9i9o2_500.gif
42 points
Cricket
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:10 PM
1st Place
Metropolis
https://btbennett.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/metropolis03.jpg
47 points
Ahwell
Nice my blind nom won haha
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:12 PM
Good stuff folks and thank you guys, you rock:up:
Congrats to one awesome silent film....Metropolis...which is the official inductee of the 1930s HoF Part 1.
edarsenal
07-23-19, 11:13 PM
VERY NICE!!!!
CONGRATS to Ahwell for the win. Definitely a powerhouse that will probably score in the top 3 of the Countdown easily.
And BRAVO CR for making Hosting a true art form!
My List
1) Metropolis
Pandora's Box
Sherlock Jr
The Kid
The Man Who Laughs
Lucky Star
Sadie Thompson
Faust
The Unknown
10) Marianne
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:16 PM
Here's my list, and yes my own nom is last, and Lucky Star almost was my #1. But any of my top 7 would've been fine with me as winning. Marianne was the only film I didn't like. Faust I appreciated but wasn't into. Sadie Thompson I think, would have been pretty good with the lost ending found.
1 Metropolis
2 Lucky Star
3 The Kid
4 Pandora's Box
5 The Unknown
6 Sherlock Jr.
7 The Man Who Laughs
8 Sadie Thompson
9 Faust
10 Marianne
Thanks for hosting CR a very fun HoF.
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:17 PM
Thanks for hosting CR a very fun HoF.Nice choices on your noms, Ahwell! It was great to finally see the fully restored Metropolis.
1. The Kid
2. Metropolis
3. Pandora's Box
4. Sherlock Jr.
5. Lucky Star
6. The Unknown
7. The Man Who Laughs
8. Sadie Thompson
9. Faust
10. Marianne
My list
cricket
07-23-19, 11:24 PM
1. The Unknown
2. Pandora's Box
3. Metropolis
4. Faust
5. The Kid
6. The Man Who Laughs
7. Sherlock Jr.
8. Marianne
9. Lucky Star
10. Sadie Thompson
Congrats Ahwell and thank you CR! Ready for part 2!
1. Metropolis
2. Pandora’s Box
3. Faust :(
4. The Kid
5. Sherlock, Jr.
6. The Man Who Laughs
7. Sadie Thompson
8. The Unknown
9. Marianne
10. Lucky Star
Citizen Rules
07-23-19, 11:42 PM
The Pre 30s HoF II thread is up and I'm taking noms.
Chypmunk
07-24-19, 06:32 AM
Grats on the win with Metropolis ahwell :up:
Grand job CR!
(Had I turned a ballot in as a spectator it would have only shaken up the finishing positions 5th-8th a little - I checked purely out of curiosity lol)
Citizen Rules
07-28-19, 02:16 PM
Metropolis (Fritz Land, 1927)...
is officially up for viewing in the hallowed halls of MoFo's Hall of Fame Museum Archives
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