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GulfportDoc
05-22-19, 08:27 PM
https://www.newsmax.com/finance/stephenmcbride/netflix-175-days-miracle/2019/05/22/id/917104/

Once Disney pulls all it's movies/shows, and with the Disney+ very low $6.99/mo. fee, along with Netflix's tremendous debt, Netflix might be in deep, deep doo-do.

I hope someone cuts a deal with TCM and others who hold ownership of all the classic films, and start a classic film stream. They really shouldn't be held hostage by cable. Of course it takes two to tango.

~Doc

Citizen Rules
05-22-19, 08:55 PM
I haven't had cable service in 20 years, but after reading that article it seems I'm not the only one who doesn't want to pay big bucks to the big cable guys. I don't do Netflix streaming but I'm one of the few left who still do the Netflix DVD in the mail plan, I'm sure Netflix will end that very soon. Luckily for me Russia likes old American movies.

MonnoM
05-22-19, 09:02 PM
Netflix should focus on originals and acquiring indie/foreign film and TV shows. If they had content that would otherwise be difficult to come by they could stay well above water. It's what drew people to their service in the first place.

Stirchley
05-22-19, 09:54 PM
I'm one of the few left who still do the Netflix DVD in the mail plan, I'm sure Netflix will end that very soon.

I doubt it. 99% of the movies in my Netflix Q are not available for streaming.

Citizen Rules
05-22-19, 09:56 PM
I doubt it. 99% of the movies in my Netflix Q are not available for streaming. What I'm saying is I bet the Netflix dvd in the mail plan ends soon.

Guaporense
05-22-19, 10:19 PM
I think that Disney is the one going to get screwed. Because Disney's properties will lose about 150 million households of streaming clients when they remove all their content from Netflix. And Disney's service is not going to reach the same scale anytime soon (if ever).

I think Disney+ will end up just like Google+ when Google tried to beat Facebook on its own game. Things like Netflix and Facebook depend a lot on having tons of people already in the system (since more people = more money = more content). Entering competitor have to battle uphill to gain customers. Not many people will just cancel their Netflix subscription just to switch it Disney.

Anyway, Netflix is doing very well competing with Amazon prime video which is a operated by a company much bigger than either Disney or Netflix. By the way, Netflix market capitalization is similar to Disney's despite the fact Netflix operates in only one segment and Disney operates in many, many lines of entertainment.

In the long run, Netflix has the upper hand: Disney represents the old entertainment industry while Netflix represents the new IT based entertainment industry. I think the fact all the old Hollywood studios are fusing into Disney, who is acting very very aggressively indicates that the old studios appear to feel like they are in a corner.

Yam12
05-22-19, 10:40 PM
Not a problem if you just pirate everything

Stirchley
05-24-19, 02:57 PM
What I'm saying is I bet the Netflix dvd in the mail plan ends soon.

You misunderstood me. I have about 180 movies in my Q & I have the 2-DVDs-out-at-a-time plan. Very few of these 180 movies are available for streaming, but they are available as a dvd.

If Netflix dropped the dvd plan there would be hardly anything for me to watch.

Citizen Rules
05-24-19, 03:09 PM
You misunderstood me. I have about 180 movies in my Q & I have the 2-DVDs-out-at-a-time plan. Very few of these 180 movies are available for streaming, but they are available as a dvd.

If Netflix dropped the dvd plan there would be hardly anything for me to watch.OK, I see. I'd heard that their streaming catalog was different than the DVD in the mail. Not many people do the DVDs in the mail anymore. I do though.

Stirchley
05-24-19, 03:26 PM
They can only offer a movie for streaming if it’s available. As I said before, more people have the dvd plan than you might imagine. I go in & out of the streaming plan. When I have totally exhausted all the streaming options, I cancel it as there’s no sense paying for something that is unavailable. I never cancel my dvd plan.

Citizen Rules
05-24-19, 04:14 PM
As I said before, more people have the dvd plan than you might imagine....I don't think so. Just a few days ago, I picked up my Netflix dvd at the post office. As I was also shipping a package, I asked the lady clerk, who I know, if they still get a lot of the Netflix dvds? She told me very few people like around 12-15, got the dvds at that postal branch. AND she told me years ago when Netflix first started up there were so many dvds coming into that post office that they had to have a special tub bin just for them. She's worked at the same post office since the 80s, so I believe her when she says the Netflix dvd in the mail service is down considerably from it's heyday.

Yoda
05-24-19, 04:20 PM
Yeah, it's days are probably numbered. Wouldn't shock me if it stuck around for years, though, based on a handful of really dedicated customers. Might go up in price though.

doubledenim
05-25-19, 05:53 AM
Yeah, it's days are probably numbered. Wouldn't shock me if it stuck around for years, though, based on a handful of really dedicated customers. Might go up in price though.


Is this in reference to Netflix ? or did I miss something.


I don't think anyone is going anywhere. We are just in in a circle heading back to where we started with cable bundling. Multiple services, monthly fee for each, gotta have my shows.



I think the big thing will be an app or service that seamlessly integrates multiple services to allow fluid movement between different provider content. Then again, somebody probably already has.

John-Connor
05-25-19, 06:06 AM
If the monthly streaming costs become too high, it's inevitable a large number of people will turn into pirates again..
https://media0.giphy.com/media/zYfLvrlwBH3y/source.gif

GulfportDoc
05-25-19, 11:38 AM
Yeah, it's days are probably numbered. Wouldn't shock me if it stuck around for years, though, based on a handful of really dedicated customers. Might go up in price though.
You're probably right about NF sticking around. But due to the enormous loss of content (Disney owns a huge chunk of the production market), and with their dangerous amount of debt ($10 billion+), this will be a bad combination for their solvency.

Also, Disney+ will be charging $7/mo., whereas NF is $11/mo. That alone will cause many subscribers to switch.

If NF survives it's debt load, it will surely have to cut down on its large production schedule. They might decide to go the niche route, which, depending upon it's target style, might keep it well in the game.

My dream would be if someone stepped up to offer a true classic film stream to feature pre cell phone eras, or even pre-1980s movies, going back to the 1930s. That would take some deal making with all the present owners of classic content; but there's a market out there for it.

~Doc

Yoda
05-25-19, 11:49 AM
Is this in reference to Netflix ? or did I miss something.
In response to their physical media service, yeah.

doubledenim
05-25-19, 12:30 PM
Has Amazon started making money yet?


That Netflix install base and the data itself is worth something. Let's not overestimate Disney. What do they really do outside of superheroes and their catalogue of characters and they won't do adult content.


Netflix is owning a lot of stuff. Movies for tweens and teens that don't get made for theaters. Stand-up comedy, which is super cheap content. Their originals (Narcos, The Crown, Ozark, ST, and the biggest show ever, Dark) .



I'll wait till Disney+ comes along and then not until they combine ESPN+ with it, until I believe in too much.

GulfportDoc
05-25-19, 01:08 PM
Disney now owns roughly one-third of the film industry. It's impossible to imagine that they won't shoulder aside every other content streamer-- even Hulu, which they own. All of their owned content and production will suddenly not be available to NF, Amazon, and the rest. We'll know in 6 months; maybe before...

Austruck
05-25-19, 01:24 PM
I don't think so. Just a few days ago, I picked up my Netflix dvd at the post office. As I was also shipping a package, I asked the lady clerk, who I know, if they still get a lot of the Netflix dvds? She told me very few people like around 12-15, got the dvds at that postal branch. AND she told me years ago when Netflix first started up there were so many dvds coming into that post office that they had to have a special tub bin just for them. She's worked at the same post office since the 80s, so I believe her when she says the Netflix dvd in the mail service is down considerably from it's heyday.

DVD delivery is down, but I think that's partly because their streaming is so much fuller. We used to do DVDs ... until their streaming became robust enough that we ditched the DVD portion. I completely forgot they even still HAD a DVD service. :D

Citizen Rules
05-25-19, 01:27 PM
Disney now owns roughly one-third of the film industry.. Don't they own more than that? The Rodent has talked about that before. I though he said they had something like 60%? They do make the movies that people see and make money so they have much more clout than an independent film maker would.



I'm hoping cable's hold is broken, so that TCM could offer it's own monthly streaming service.

Citizen Rules
05-25-19, 01:38 PM
DVD delivery is down, but I think that's partly because their streaming is so much fuller. We used to do DVDs ... until their streaming became robust enough that we ditched the DVD portion. I completely forgot they even still HAD a DVD service. :DI just went on a internet search for Netflix DVD numbers. According to a couple different articles there's 3 million DVD in the mail subscribers in 2019 and it's said to be Netflix's most profitable branch. That surprised me.

Story Link (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/08/as-netflixs-dvd-service-shrinks-the-end-might-be-i.html)
The only reason that the DVD service has remained around as long as it has, is that it’s actually the most profitable-per-customer branch of Netflix’s service. The remaining 3 million DVD.com subscribers together contributed close to $53 million to Netflix’s profits during its last quarter, which equals out to $17.66 in profit per member, per quarter. Netflix has refined DVD.com since its inception to be even more smooth and profitable, although it’s no secret how, as any subscriber could tell you—they’ve eliminated vast chunks of their former DVD collection.
According to Variety, the DVD arm of Netflix’s operation continues to hemorrhage customers each year, at the rate of 190,000 every quarter in the last two years. At that rate, the service would be down to under 2 million by the end of 2019, and entirely out of customers by 2022, suggesting that Netflix would have no reason to keep the service going. One has to wonder who the subscribers are who are only now canceling their DVD accounts—seniors, perhaps?

The Rodent
05-25-19, 01:49 PM
Don't they own more than that? @The Rodent (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=70333) has talked about that before. I though he said they had something like 60%? They do make the movies that people see and make money so they have much more clout than an independent film maker would.



I'm hoping cable's hold is broken, so that TCM could offer it's own monthly streaming service.



Yeah it's about 60% of the entire entertainment business (movies, music, TV) is owned solely by Disney.
They've monopolised television in Asia as well.


Thing is though, the other 40%, they have small stakes in some of that as well through the fact that studios team up with each other and so on, and Disney has stakes in some of those smaller studios.
You could say that they own 60%, but they have stakes in around 80%-90% of the entire entertainment business.

GulfportDoc
05-26-19, 01:26 PM
Don't they own more than that? @The Rodent (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=70333) has talked about that before. I though he said they had something like 60%? They do make the movies that people see and make money so they have much more clout than an independent film maker would.

I'm hoping cable's hold is broken, so that TCM could offer it's own monthly streaming service.
That could be, CR. "One-third" was just a rough estimate.

I'm hoping the same thing that you are re TCM, or something even more.

Citizen Rules
05-26-19, 02:16 PM
That could be, CR. "One-third" was just a rough estimate.

I'm hoping the same thing that you are re TCM, or something even more.This is weird, or maybe it's prophetic...but yesterday when I logged into my Netflix account which I've had for years, it had this new page that asked me to choose my Netflix plan. Of course I already have one, so I knew it was a Netflix inflicted commercial. The really lame thing was I was trapped on the page with no option to go to my account or the main Netflix site. So I thought I had to re-confirm my account choice, which I started to do. Then on the next page it said something about having a free 30 day trail before I was billed. That's all BS. So I backed out of that page and in a very roundabout manner I was finally able to get to the main Netflix site. They must be hurting financially thanks to Disney leaving. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.

The Rodent
05-26-19, 02:26 PM
I don't have a Netflix account... but if I did... and I'd spent hundreds over the years... I'd be royally pissed off right about now.


So basically, all of this harkens back to my previous posts in another thread...
I'll never go online for movies. Bad picture and sound quality... and all you're doing with the money you spend is cross your fingers and pray that the provider doesn't just disappear in a poof of smoke and takes all your cash with it.
How online downloading and streaming, after forking out hundreds of pounds/dollars to end up with absolutely nothing to show for your cash, is completely and utterly a waste of time and money...


... and that actually having a hardcopy, a DVD, is the only way to go :D


I keep saying it, but nobody listens to me.

Citizen Rules
05-26-19, 02:37 PM
I love watching DVDs for the reasons you just gave, +they have added extra features on them that aren't included with streaming. I just personally can't afford to buy DVDs, nor do I have the room to store them, and I don't usually like rewatching films, so I never buy them.

The Rodent
05-26-19, 02:47 PM
Ah, I'm a repeat viewer with movies.
Still though, I think if I was a watch-once kinda person, I'd still rather spend a couple notes and know that my cash has given me the movie forever.


DVDs are pretty cheap these days tbh.
The other day I got hold of M:I: Fallout, Creed 2, The Departed, Zodiac, Glass, The Cloverfield Paradox and Annihilation for less than £30.


Edit: And Tropic Thunder with all those too. Still less than £30.

WrinkledMind
05-27-19, 05:13 AM
Netflix's stocks have been spiraling downwards for some time now, largely due to Amazon and the looming threat of Disney.

Netflix was going to increase its subscription amount, and yet was not expected to see it reducing a substantial amount of its massive debts in return, let alone make profits.

It even made some crazy purchases like throwing 100mil on the famous series Friends.

It's important for Netflix to capture markets like India. Hence, it hastily greenlighted a ton of regional language series and movies. Though very few have returned as real successes. Example: Sacred Games.

In fast emerging markets like India it still has to compete against giants like Amazon, which are diverse as in used for shopping and entertainment and Youtube, where most things are free. Amazon has its own successful series and movies, and also makes revenue from traditional releases. Plus there are several local streaming sites like Hotstar, Eros, etc with their own content and loyal following.


I am neither a business person or a film marketing/production expert. But from these facts, it's clear to see that Netflix will become irrelevant eventually. I do not understand their strange business plans, like throwing cash on average products. It almost feels like they are more interested in quantity over quality. When funnily Netflix has always been identified with path breaking stuff and therefore could actually do better if it concentrates on quality and select few shows and movies.

There is a substantial audience that wants series and movies that push the envelope. Stick to that and be the alternate option rather than being obsessed with becoming the number one, when it simply doesn't have the resources to take on Amazon or Disney.

GulfportDoc
05-27-19, 11:41 AM
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There is a substantial audience that wants series and movies that push the envelope. Stick to that and be the alternate option rather than being obsessed with becoming the number one, when it simply doesn't have the resources to take on Amazon or Disney.
Good points, WM. Netflix will likely have to find a niche market to justify their monthly subscription cost vs. Disney+. I hope that includes classic films, but it may not. If they can keep a strong subscribership, and lower the monthly fee, then they can gradually pay down their massive debt. They won't be able to keep on as they have been doing. They may even face a Chapter 11 bankruptcy/reorganization..... or worse.

Citizen Rules
05-27-19, 12:29 PM
Well my Netflix DVD of The Favorite arrived...and it was broke! It had been cracked right through the disc. It figures.

Stirchley
05-27-19, 02:21 PM
DVD delivery is down, but I think that's partly because their streaming is so much fuller. We used to do DVDs ... until their streaming became robust enough that we ditched the DVD portion. I completely forgot they even still HAD a DVD service. :D

Funny how we all differ. My experience, as I’ve said many times, is the opposite. 180+ movies in my Q & very very few of them are available for streaming. I never cancel my dvd plan, but I go in & out of the streaming plan.

actually having a hardcopy, a DVD, is the only way to go :DI keep saying it, but nobody listens to me.

I’m listening & I feel the same way. I like streaming very much, but I adore my dvd collection. There’s nothing I like better than buying DVDs.

DVDs are pretty cheap these days tbh.


New releases are very expensive, Criterion is very expensive, but it’s possible to find bargains in DVDs.

Well my Netflix DVD of The Favorite arrived...and it was broke! It had been cracked right through the disc. It figures.

That can happen. It’s not the fault of Netflix (other than the wear & tear on the dvd), but, rather, the fault of the mail delivery. Netflix immediately sends a replacement. BTW, I thought The Favourite was a really daft movie.

Citizen Rules, came across this at the weekend. Sums up EXACTLY why I have the dvd Netflix plan.

“Why do people still use the Netflix DVD-by-mail option?
While 2.7 million subscribers are a far cry from Netflix's nearly 140 million streaming subscribers, that's still a surprising number of people who are willing to wait for a DVD to arrive by mail. But there are a few benefits to the service.*

First, there are nearly 100,000 DVD options, versus about 6,000 TV shows and films available on Netflix's streaming service. Second, new releases are typically available on DVD quicker than by streaming; a lot of times, new titles don't ever make it to the streaming site, hence the more limited options.”

Citizen Rules
05-27-19, 04:17 PM
I swear several time recently I've gotten a new movie release from Netflix DVD and then a week later I walk into my library and they have that movie in their First Come First Served section for new releases that can't be reserved, you just got to show up and grab them in person.

7thson
05-27-19, 04:50 PM
We go back and forth with different streaming services. We share accounts with other family members and we all pitch in for the extra to have it on multiple devices. It works out really well for us and although I personally love Netflix streaming service if it goes away I wont be heartbroken. There will always be a way to stream or watch shows.

Our portion of the monthly cost as a family that shares is around $12.00. this includes:

Netflix
Hulu
Amazon
HBO Go


Probably will be adding Disney and maybe dropping Hulu, but who knows might keep them both.

I used to love the DVD mail service, but for me it is outdated - not saying there is anything wrong with it and if you love it more power to you, it is a great option.

I hope they (Netflix) make an adjustment to their business model, they have a substantial customer base and should do something to capitalize on that and very soon.

Stirchley
05-27-19, 05:40 PM
Our portion of the monthly cost as a family that shares is around $12.00. this includes:

Netflix
Hulu
Amazon
HBO Go




I don’t have a single streaming service that I continuously subscribe to. I go in & out of all of them. The Handmaid’s Tale is returning so I will renew hulu, but only for that show. HBO I am out at the moment, but might renew for Chernobyl. The great thing about all these services is that you can subscribe for a single month if you want to. Or even have a free trial month & then not subscribe.

GulfportDoc
05-27-19, 07:48 PM
Well my Netflix DVD of The Favorite arrived...and it was broke! It had been cracked right through the disc. It figures.
Yeah, that's the chief reason we dropped the service. About every 4th disc was either cracked or scratched. They give you credit of course, but by then you've got a week+ added to the wait. They used these silly little paper envelopes; whereas RedBox uses stiff plastic.

The other tendency was for them to "slow down" your deliveries, so that you really weren't getting the full contracted service.

Having said that, I still would prefer watching movies on DVD, but I was unhappy with Netflix's mail service.

~Doc

SFMZone
05-27-19, 08:10 PM
The last time I rented a disc from Netflix.......

http://scifimoviezone.com/meme003.jpg

Citizen Rules
05-27-19, 09:43 PM
Yeah, that's the chief reason we dropped the service. About every 4th disc was either cracked or scratched. They give you credit of course, but by then you've got a week+ added to the wait. They used these silly little paper envelopes; whereas RedBox uses stiff plastic.

The other tendency was for them to "slow down" your deliveries, so that you really weren't getting the full contracted service.

Having said that, I still would prefer watching movies on DVD, but I was unhappy with Netflix's mail service.

~DocBroken DVDs haven't been a problem for me. I just checked and I've received 561 movies on DVD since signing up and this is only the third time it's happened.

NedStark09
05-27-19, 10:05 PM
Ive not had DVD movie sent or option. I do the online streaming part. There is so many good Paramount , Sony and Universal TV shows and Movies netflix should option for. And because Disney Plus is taking all disney. Just means Netfix is likely get good deals on rival companies left against Disney.

Stirchley
05-29-19, 02:38 PM
They used these silly little paper envelopes; whereas RedBox uses stiff plastic.

The other tendency was for them to "slow down" your deliveries, so that you really weren't getting the full contracted service.

True, but Red Box doesn’t mail DVDs. It’s an entirely different business model.

I too often suspect Netflix of slowing down the deliveries. I have the 2 at a time plan. They emailed me yesterday that one of my new ones was mailed out. Thought I would get it today. Didn’t.

Citizen Rules, I’ve had 1195 movies out in the 10 years since I joined Netflix.

Ami-Scythe
05-29-19, 04:17 PM
Netflix should focus on originals and acquiring indie/foreign film and TV shows. If they had content that would otherwise be difficult to come by they could stay well above water. It's what drew people to their service in the first place.

They only pick up ideas from people they already have some kind of connection with.

NedStark09
05-29-19, 08:06 PM
Disney Bought all of Hulu and they can have it but I doubt anime shows will stay with Hulu and Netflix could pick up allot more dubbed anime. Disney has lots of pressure really on them . There original tv show content needs to hit well. Remember when all the rage was the disney channel and everyone wanted it on cable that had kids and now disney channel sucks.

I_Wear_Pants
06-08-19, 01:00 PM
I doubt it. Sure, Netflix won't have Disney's output, but there are plenty of other movies and shows worth watching on Netflix. I also hope they keep DVD, since I use that for the ones not available on streaming. I don't really see a need for me to get the Disney streaming service, since I don't really watch what they'd put there. I also don't really need a fourth streaming service. I'm perfectly happy with what I have.

I_Wear_Pants
06-08-19, 01:02 PM
Disney Bought all of Hulu and they can have it but I doubt anime shows will stay with Hulu and Netflix could pick up allot more dubbed anime. Disney has lots of pressure really on them . There original tv show content needs to hit well. Remember when all the rage was the disney channel and everyone wanted it on cable that had kids and now disney channel sucks.

Disney Channel has always sucked, especially since it's sexist garbage.

And it's "a lot", not "allot".

doubledenim
06-11-19, 05:14 PM
I still don't see this happening.

If it's about quantity, why hasn't YouTube crushed Netflix already?

Steve Freeling
06-11-19, 05:30 PM
I still don't see this happening.
This. Especially not with them picking up Eva.

Yoda
06-11-19, 06:06 PM
Yeah, Netflix isn't gonna get smooshed by this. I'm more curious about what happens if and when they have to scale back on pouring insane amounts of money into content creation, which is something they've been doing in anticipation of exactly this kind of thing.

GulfportDoc
06-11-19, 07:59 PM
Yeah, Netflix isn't gonna get smooshed by this. I'm more curious about what happens if and when they have to scale back on pouring insane amounts of money into content creation, which is something they've been doing in anticipation of exactly this kind of thing.
Yeah, they'll have to eventually. They're spending/borrowing more than they're taking in. The only entity that can get away with that is the Federal government..:rolleyes:

WrinkledMind
07-24-19, 04:07 AM
This is an interesting piece on Netflix's new strategy. Enticing people with new series, before shutting them down after two seasons.

Not a good strategy for creators or fans who get attached to some stories.

https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/the-slow-death-of-hollywood

John-Connor
07-24-19, 04:14 AM
[Netflix] now routinely ends shows after their second season, even when they’re still popular.
example(s)?

WrinkledMind
07-24-19, 04:50 AM
Some that I found: American Vandal, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, The Punisher.
There are few that ended after three seasons.

The core thinking of Netflix seems to be less episodes per season and two or three seasons for a series. They don't want to deal with renewal of contracts of writers or actors, as the demands rise after that.

Also point to note, I found this piece after it was retweeted by Vikramaditya Motwane, the director of Netflix's Sacred Games, which will release its second season next month. His movie Trapped was initially exclusive only for Netflix.

GulfportDoc
08-07-19, 10:10 AM
Netflix woes continue:

"The Cold, Hard Math Says Netflix Could Crash 70%"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenmcbride1/2019/08/06/the-cold-hard-math-tells-netflix-could-crash-70/#3640081e1246

Citizen Rules
08-07-19, 12:43 PM
I just cancelled my Netflix DVD subscription a few days ago. I had it for years too.

NedStark09
08-07-19, 01:33 PM
Amazon which i have as well and I have Hulu on a free trial bases. I have Netflix or rather another member of the house hold has it. Netflix big turn off really. Amazon has lots of classic tv shows. I think Netflix misses the boat on not having like The Waltons or In The Heat of The Night or The A Team. Lots of people watch reruns.

MovieBuffering
08-07-19, 01:42 PM
Yeah, Netflix isn't gonna get smooshed by this. I'm more curious about what happens if and when they have to scale back on pouring insane amounts of money into content creation, which is something they've been doing in anticipation of exactly this kind of thing.

I feel like they saw this coming years ago. With their success with streaming they had to realize all these companies were going take back their properties eventually for their own streaming purposes. That's why they started producing their own original entertainment. If they can get people like Scorsese to make movies with them they will be fine. Plus they seem like the go to for stand up comics now. They are going take a hit for sure but I think they started to get out in front of this for the most part.

They will especially be fine if they keep revolutionize the theater business and how movies get distributed out of the gate.

TheUsualSuspect
08-07-19, 01:49 PM
Some that I found: American Vandal, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, The Punisher.
There are few that ended after three seasons.

The core thinking of Netflix seems to be less episodes per season and two or three seasons for a series. They don't want to deal with renewal of contracts of writers or actors, as the demands rise after that.

Also point to note, I found this piece after it was retweeted by Vikramaditya Motwane, the director of Netflix's Sacred Games, which will release its second season next month. His movie Trapped was initially exclusive only for Netflix.

Those were all cancelled because they wanted to focus on in house shows. They do not own any of the ones you just listed.

But then they do stupid stuff like cancelling Santa Clarita Diet, which fits the 3 season model.


Disney just announced their bundle of Disney +, Hulu and ESPN + for $12.99

The catch it, ESPN is useless and Hulu comes with ads. They will not bundle an ad free hulu, they want you to spend more to get that one, separate.

Yoda
08-07-19, 02:02 PM
I'm already paying about that munch for the ad-less Hulu, so there's a decent chance I'll basically say "yeah, gimme ads" in exchange for Disney+ and ESPN+. Hmmmm.

NedStark09
08-08-19, 02:27 AM
Hulu is my least favorite streaming thing. They have tones on anime dubs which i love but Hulu takes for ever to find there shows and to be honest Amazon and Netflix has allot more home made content that seems better then the shows on there network places that get releases. I think Amazon will be a major thorn in Hulu and Netflix. Disney Plus is not having all the disney brand content with its launch. They are banking on Star Wars and Marvel shows but if are into disney you want the disney library out the gate but really have to wait for lots of there content.

gandalf26
08-08-19, 04:16 AM
Netflix have signed D and D with a rumoured 9 figure deal to produce shows and movies.

The head of Netflix says he is delighted to welcome these "master storytellers".........

Great job shooting yourself in the foot Netflix!

Iroquois
08-08-19, 05:07 AM
And yet Tuca and Bertie stays cancelled.

NedStark09
08-08-19, 06:40 PM
Amazon dodged the bullet then so they wont get into the LOTR series after Thrones D and D comes with a red flag in can start a series if have the material but cannot finish said series on their own. Even with Guidlines from the writer.

cat_sidhe
08-10-19, 11:28 AM
The last time I rented a disc from Netflix.......

http://scifimoviezone.com/meme003.jpg

"Unbreakable" :lol:

cat_sidhe
08-10-19, 11:32 AM
It even made some crazy purchases like throwing 100mil on the famous series Friends.

A particularly ****ty purchase. Friends is pretty much on repeat in every country. So that's a guaranteed space waster.

It's important for Netflix to capture markets like India. Hence, it hastily greenlighted a ton of regional language series and movies.


Which makes people who can't stand Bollywood movies feel like half their choices went out the window.

GulfportDoc
08-10-19, 02:30 PM
"Unbreakable" :lol:
Yup. The same thing happened to me, seemingly about 20% of the time. Others have had better results. They would need hard cases, but that would up the price significantly, I suppose.

WrinkledMind
08-10-19, 05:36 PM
Which makes people who can't stand Bollywood movies feel like half their choices went out the window.

For now, they are still going for stories that Bollywood doesn't usually touch. Unfortunately, their poor returns on investments mean, that they will eventually go for creators who do the typical Bollywood stuff, which will make your prediction come right.

On a side note, they recently launched a mobile only subscription that is $2.80. I am waiting to see what kind of impact that has had.