The 19th Hall of Fame [Archive] - Page 2

ahwell

07-03-19, 09:43 PM

Cinema Paradiso

This was a good movie. Nothing more, nothing less. I wish it would have moved me more, but it just sagged at the end. I'm not sure what the message was, and it seemed like the movie - as Citizen Rules mentioned in his review - is a warning against getting dragged from realities into dreams and movies... but I'm not sure Cinema Paradiso was actually looking this deep. I think in many ways it is all about nostalgia, about love of movies, about all that stuff. And then when you look at it that way it's not so great or meaningful. But the actual story, camera work, and acting were all pretty good, so I'm giving it a good rating.

3.5

KeyserCorleone

07-06-19, 12:55 PM

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The Godfather is one of those films where you see something new everytime to watch it. I won't go into the plot because it's an epic one but I'll talk about some of the things I loved about it.

1. The role of marriage and love in the film, each wife is given a very different objective and perspective with respect to the male characters. Apollinia ends up being such a major character towards Michael's character growth (perhaps more so than his father and brother) and how Kay starts off the film as an equal and ends the film as just someone on the outs.

2. Tom Hagen is the ultimate survivor, he's not a war-time consigliere (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consigliere). And I believe that ends up saving his life.

3. Vito goes about his business and how Michael learns from his father how to weed out problems.

Love the film, great nomination, look forward to see how it does with this Hall.

My nom's got some tough competition with Pulp Fiction, but I'll be happy if that nom wins as well. Easily would've been my number 2 out of the ten.

ahwell

07-06-19, 02:42 PM

Miss Vicky

07-06-19, 03:07 PM

I'd be happy if The Godfather wins - but only because that means it'll be disqualified from future HOFs and I won't have to watch it again.

ahwell

07-06-19, 11:05 PM

Gaslight

I enjoyed Gaslight to some extent. I think it got better as it went on, but the plot was too thin for a two hour long film. The opening hour to me was the weak point, and by the end I was on the edge of my seat. So the structure was really imbalanced. The acting was pretty good, but I couldn't really get into Bergman with this role. Everything else is pretty marginal, but I still ended up generally liking it. It won't be one of my favorites, but it was worth a watch I guess.

3

Siddon

07-07-19, 04:45 AM

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Open Range is a western...don't know what else you can say about it. It just felt like a generic film at no point was I really sucked into the plot or I ended up caring about any of the characters. I feel like when a western works well it's always about something else or it has a clever way of telling the story. Unforgiven is about justice, High Noon is about bravery, The Searchers is about forgiveness, and Open Range is about...land rights....whomp whomp.

On the plus side it looked good...though still felt a bit low budget the town didn't feel real to me, just what they could build for what money they had. It was nice but once again nothing special. This is the second time I've watched this film, it was forgettable the first time and I fear it will be forgettable the second time.

Citizen Rules

07-07-19, 02:11 PM

...Unforgiven is about justice, High Noon is about bravery, The Searchers is about forgiveness, and Open Range is about...land rights....whomp whomp... 'Land rights' is what most of the fighting in the old west was really about, even Tombstone is about land rights even though it's not made a big part of the film, in reality the real gunfight in Tombstone was all about power struggle between open free rangers and land owners. So I'd say what Open Range is about is the reality of the old west and how it changed to become what we have today.

Siddon

07-07-19, 05:15 PM

'Land rights' is what most of the fighting in the old west was really about, even Tombstone is about land rights even though it's not made a big part of the film.

Tombstone is about family and obligations that come with family. And while something might really be about something else if you going to tell a film you have to do so in a compelling way. My number 1 movie right now was about land rights but it was handled in a much better fashion.

Citizen Rules

07-07-19, 05:21 PM

Tombstone is about family and obligations that come with family. And while something might really be about something else if you going to tell a film you have to do so in a compelling way. My number 1 movie right now was about land rights but it was handled in a much better fashion.That's cool. I'm just saying I've watched a lot of westerns lately (guess I'm getting ready for the Western countdown!) and I'm totally surprised how many of them are about land rights with battles between the open rangers who wanted to graze their cattle where ever they wanted and the settlers and land owners who started fencing off their property and thus brought on the bloodiest period in the American west and finally ended the old way west of life.

Siddon

07-11-19, 05:15 AM

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The Virgin Spring, funny how I watched Midsommar last night and then this one tonight and the 1960's film had a stronger impact with less gore, less money and in black and white.

Based on a medieval poem the film is a story of a young woman who is brutally raped and murdered by a group of farmers in Sweden. The film touches on the nature of faith, the conflict between paganism and Christianity. The film is haunting with it's shots and the reactions of the characters in the story. You have several moments in the film where it just feels raw and real.

Visually the film is stunning but it never lingers on it's shots (something that is common in todays' cinema) you can blink and miss some incredible cinematography I missed the human finger the first time I watched the film.

Brilliant film and a great nomination this concludes my run with this Hall of Fame.

4.5

ahwell

07-11-19, 11:00 PM

Return to Paradise

This movie wasn't as bad as some of the reviews here have said it was, in my opinion. While it is nowhere near a favorite and won't rank high in this hall of fame, it was generally engaging watch. The characters were interesting, the storyline engaging enough, and looked pretty good too. However, my problems with it were that it was simply stretched way too thin, just like Gaslight. There was no plot substance like you get in Pulp Fiction or The Godfather - that is, interwoven plots that once can engage in at the same time. That is not to say that the simple structure of Return to Paradise is bad, but it could have worked much better with a shorter running time.

3.5

gbgoodies

07-11-19, 11:13 PM

I liked Return to Paradise, but I thought the romance between Sheriff and Beth was unnecessary. I thought the basic premise of the movie about whether or not Sheriff and Tony should go back and take responsibility to save their friend was great, and I loved the way Sheriff went back and forth about what he should do.

I actually wanted to movie to go just a little bit longer because I wanted to see a confrontation at the end between Beth and the reporter. It just felt like a letdown that we didn't get to see Beth confront the reporter about what happened and how she caused Lewis' death.

GulfportDoc

07-12-19, 10:57 AM

The Virgin Spring, funny how I watched Midsommar last night and then this one tonight and the 1960's film had a stronger impact with less gore, less money and in black and white.

Based on a medieval poem the film is a story of a young woman who is brutally raped and murdered by a group of farmers in Sweden. The film touches on the nature of faith, the conflict between paganism and Christianity. The film is haunting with it's shots and the reactions of the characters in the story. You have several moments in the film where it just feels raw and real.

Visually the film is stunning but it never lingers on it's shots (something that is common in todays' cinema) you can blink and miss some incredible cinematography I missed the human finger the first time I watched the film.

Brilliant film and a great nomination this concludes my run with this Hall of Fame.rating_4_5
Siddon, you have hit the nail on the head. Please take a seat at the head of the class!

The Virgin Spring is one of many hundreds of examples of how powerful subjects can be dramatized without the use of exaggerated graphic violence or sex. This particular Bergman film stayed with me for months after its viewing.

Modern film (and for that matter, modern society) puts me in mind of how Rome fell; and in particular the Roman games, which started as sporting events between contestants using wooden swords, but gradually degenerated into public displays of mutilation, torture, and mayhem. Our current trend toward decay is obvious.

IMO people's imaginations are much stronger and more useful tools for filmmakers. But it's so much easier to appeal to viewer's sanguinary and prurient tendencies..:(

~Doc

cricket

07-14-19, 05:14 PM

And you thought Forrest Gump was better than the Godfather

/smh

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Cinema Paradiso is the coming of age story of Salvatore and his relationship with Alfredo the owner and projectionist of a Movie House named Cinema Paradiso. The film takes the familiar three act structure of portraying Salvatore as a child, teenager, and adult. The adult portion is used for exposition, the teenage part for conflict and the child part for the world building.

Like most films from this era it has a very simple and strong message that I'm not sure I agree with and that's what hurts the film in my eyes...to a point. The film isn't just about a love of movies but also the role of a father and family in each person's lives. Salvatore has been orphaned by the war while Alfredo is a confirmed bachelor. Alfredo leads a somewhat sexless life while Salvatore grows into a person that just has meaningless relationship after meaningless relationship. What is this film telling us about love. The conflict in the first part is the teenage Salvatore falling in love with a girl and then going off to serve and losing touch with her. Is their is a strong sense of cynicism to go with the nostalgia, at one point Alfredo loses his sight in a fire and his love of film is basically taken away from him.

Unfortunately when you have a film where the artist is trying to tell you something other things fall by the wayside. I'm not really sure if any of the performances where strong or if they even mattered because the messaging overwhelms the film. Is this a film or is this a philosophy lecture and how does one properly rate a film like this.

Alfredo was married.

KeyserCorleone

07-15-19, 12:49 PM

Cinema Paradiso

When I first saw it, the sentiment was the main reason I loved it. With this shorter version, I still felt related to it because I love cinema almost as much as Salvatore. And though it's practically impossible to ruin Cinema Paradiso, the movie felt condensed because of the edit. I prefer the 2 1/2 hour version because there's more to it, but I still love the movie. It's hard to find a better old man and little boy pair than Salvatore and Alfredo, and the 0eople around them like the stuffy priest make the movie much more meaningful and lively.

rating_5

John-Connor

07-17-19, 07:49 AM

Angel Face 1953

Enjoyable watch, good movie!
Solid performances by Jean Simmons and Robert Mitchum.
Really liked the music, setting and great directing by Otto Preminger.
Loved the ending, it definitely contributed to a higher popcorn-bucket percentage in my rating.
That look Jean Simmons gives Frank in the final scene, is the absolute highlight of her performance and film for me. The car tumbling down the cliff with the puppets sadly takes away just a little grandeur out of the climactic scene.

(Think it's relevant to mention I just watched Otto Preminger's masterpiece Anatomy of Murder perfectly restored on Blu-ray. The best version of Angel Face I could get my hands on was a DVD with almost VHS-like picture quality. I tried to not let that influence this watch, but i'm sure subconsciously, it did)

edarsenal

07-17-19, 09:23 PM

rauldc14

07-17-19, 09:55 PM

I bought my nomination via The Criterion Collection sale and I'll be watching it on my days off next week.

John-Connor

07-18-19, 11:39 AM

The Virgin Spring 1960 ‘Jungfrukällan’ Directed by Ingmar Bergman

Ingmar Bergman, have to be careful what I say, the 'art-house mafia' is always watching. :cool:
Seriously, very artful film, enriching watch. It successfully captured the Scandinavian fairy/folk tale poem atmosphere. Loaded with symbolism and metaphors, which were executed and came across very well on screen.
Pleasant run time, and beautiful ending.
The film is most certainly from the art-house universe, so it will be hard to rank/rate/compare to the other nominees.
Good nomination, contributing to diversity in this hall of fame.

ahwell

07-18-19, 08:44 PM

I think I'll need links to a subtitled "The Virgin Spring" and "Angel Face." I tried ordering them from my library but unfortunately it's moving to a new location and my holds won't be available until mid-August.

KeyserCorleone

07-19-19, 03:03 AM

Raging Bull

Like any Martin Scorsese movie with Robert De Niro, this movie kicks ass. It was pretty rough to see Jake La Motta become the person he turned out to be for most of the second-half, seeing at full force how he created a lot of his own problems. And even though the charisma between De Niro and Joe Pesci (whi is so irresistibly sleazy that he could be an AC/DC album) was a wonderful thing to witness, My favorite thing to see in this movie was Coach from Cheers playing a wise and foul-mouthed mob boss. I'd put a couple of other De Niro movies above this one, along with Scorsese's rock movie The Last Waltz. But I'm glad I finally got around to this and it was a great way to end the marathon for this game.

rating_5

edarsenal

07-20-19, 12:21 AM

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Gaslight

Gregory Anton: You see how it is, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: I see JUST how it is, sir.

Originally, when I first saw this nominated, I got it mixed up with Rebecca (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032976/) where poor Joan Fontaine is troubled by her husband's past played by Laurence Olivier.
It does have a Hitchcock feel to the slow maddening, psychological manipulation that our heroine Ingrid Bergman is put through by such a cold, calculating husband, (Charles Boyer). Who truly gives us an absolute snake we can detest as we pity and worry over Bergman's Paula.

I have seen this, a very long time ago and only remembered a few bits and pieces and had completely forgot how it ended, which, for me was as Bergman had the opportunity to fling all the lies and deception back into Boyer's face.
"A knife? Surely you must be mad, husband. This can't be a knife in my hand. See how I'm always losing things. . ."

And while it did seem a bit long in coming, the pacing was and is, correct, for this film as all of this occurs over some five months or so.
I also enjoyed all of the secondary characters (Lansbury was excellent playing such a little sh#t) adding a pleasant touch here and there as we follow, knowing full well the culprit and his designs.

Along with this, the settings, lighting and camerawork worked wonderfully as well for me.

ahwell

07-20-19, 03:57 PM

Citizen Rules

07-20-19, 04:00 PM

Anyone?Give me a few minutes and I'll look, then PM you.

ahwell

07-21-19, 03:43 PM

Angel Face

Another big surprise for me in this Hall of Fame. I've never been a huge fan of noir, but Angel Face did a good job of portraying in-depth characters and ideas. There were some crazily cool and modern moments in this movie, like near the end when we just see Diane walking around the house like she's in a trance... we learn later what she might be contemplating. The "twists," both involving cars, must have shocked audiences as well. This isn't Preminger's best work (I'd probably give that to Anatomy of a Murder or Laura), but it's still really good and I was interested almost the whole time.

4

Citizen Rules

07-21-19, 03:52 PM

Angel Face

Another big surprise for me in this Hall of Fame. I've never been a huge fan of noir, but Angel Face did a good job of portraying in-depth characters and ideas. Good to hear there's another fan of Angel Face. One of these days I'll have to do another Film Noir HoF, the first two were great fun. BTW, Preminger did like 6 film noirs I think, some of them are pretty good too.

jiraffejustin

07-21-19, 09:15 PM

Gaslight

For a long period of time during my viewing of this film, I was seriously struggling to get through it. I wasn't sure what to make of that feeling because there was nothing technically wrong with the film. That's when I realized that maybe this is how a lot of people feel when they watch torture porn or other violent films and their stomachs start to turn. I just felt really bad for beautiful Ingrid Bergman. Her ability to garner my sympathy was apparently top notch, but maybe this film didn't have to drag it on that long. And story wise there are a few coincidences in the film that seem to stretch things a little far, but overall Gaslight is a pretty solid film.

rauldc14

07-22-19, 03:44 PM

The Virgin Spring

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Bergman is so masterful in his craft and he eventually deserves another film inducted into the Hall of Fame, partially why I nominated this. I didn't know this would be the land of the Giants HOF though so it's going to be a tough egg to crack.

Regardless, it's one of the most visually beautiful films that I've seen, despite the subject matters. Just look at the pictured scene above, and there's many more examples in the film. The camera shots just have me in awe. The locations are magnificent. And Birgitta Pettersson is stunning too. The rest of the cast did a real great job with the headliner being the performance of Max Von Sydow.

The story itself is rather gloomy, yes, but it seemed portrayed so devastatingly accurate to me. I loved how every character seemed to be put through some situation or scenario that faced them with an extremely tough decision on their morals and beliefs. Definitely how the film played through, it tugged at the heartstrings.

I'd also say Bergman is vastly underrated in regards to his film dialogue and screenplays. Both were pretty masterful in this. It's my favorite film of his and it's one of my favorite 100 films too.

4.5+

KeyserCorleone

07-22-19, 04:57 PM

I honestly wanted more character from Ingeri and more delivery on the Christianity vs. paganism theme. Part of the reason I love The Seventh Seal is because of its keen religious theme delivery.

Citizen Rules

07-22-19, 05:32 PM

I honestly wanted more character from Ingeri and more delivery on the Christianity vs. paganism theme. Part of the reason I love The Seventh Seal is because of its keen religious theme delivery. What was it saying about religion? I have a vague idea what the film was trying to say about faith and religion, but I'd sure like to hear other people's interpretation?

KeyserCorleone

07-22-19, 05:59 PM

What was it saying about religion? I have a vague idea what the film was trying to say about faith and religion, but I'd sure like to hear other people's interpretation?

That's just it. It was vague. I'd like more on it as a theme, because for a movie about the rights and wrongs one sees in different religions, like Ingeri's fidelity and the father's murder of the boy and how Ingeri prayed to Odin for Karin's death, as well as the guilt the characters later feel for all of their sins it didn't go as heavy into how one relies on their beliefs and prayers as often as they do. The movie reminds me of The Witch when diving into the conflict between religion and sin, but with a very different outcome. In some ways, The Witch was better because the theme was more heavily explored.

rauldc14

07-22-19, 08:38 PM

I thought Ingeri's silence told me enough about that theme personally. Also showed the flaw in humanity.

Citizen Rules

07-22-19, 10:58 PM

That's just it. It was vague. I'd like more on it as a theme, because for a movie about the rights and wrongs one sees in different religions, like Ingeri's fidelity and the father's murder of the boy and how Ingeri prayed to Odin for Karin's death, as well as the guilt the characters later feel for all of their sins it didn't go as heavy into how one relies on their beliefs and prayers as often as they do... OK thanks, that's a believable take. My take was simpler: that people only turn to religion when they want something.

rauldc14

07-22-19, 11:21 PM

A link for Cinema Paradiso with Subs and Tombstone would be appreciated. Thanks!

Citizen Rules

07-22-19, 11:30 PM

A link for Cinema Paradiso with Subs and Tombstone would be appreciated. Thanks! I'll take a look and get back to you in a few minutes.

ahwell

07-22-19, 11:30 PM

A link for Cinema Paradiso with Subs and Tombstone would be appreciated. Thanks! I'll take a look and get back to you in a few minutes.

I already sent Tombstone just so you know.

Citizen Rules

07-22-19, 11:32 PM

I already sent Tombstone just so you know. OK good to know.

ahwell

07-23-19, 09:23 AM

The Virgin Spring

This was a movie ridden with mysterious symbolism, complicated characters, and an overall sense of "myth." The shots of medieval Sweden in the midst of the wilderness are just beautiful, and Bergmann does a really good job of bringing you back to the ancient times of semi-early Christianity and the dying of Pagan religions in this area of the world. This is a very high quality film, and the only Bergmann I've seen so far - I'll be wanting to see more soon.

4

ahwell

07-23-19, 09:27 AM

List sent. Very good Hall of Fame, my lowest rating being a 3

rauldc14

07-24-19, 10:19 AM

Tombstone

This is one of those movies that seemed to bypass me until now, but it seems like it would be a movie that I would have regarded as a fun watch back in the day, not necessarily a masterpiece or anything but a comfort film of sorts.

At the forefront for me are the good performances, particularly with Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer. I thought both of them did really well, I'd even say the two should have had some sort of Oscar contention tied to their performances. It was a tough year for that though.

I liked the angle this story took too. At least it made it a pretty adventurous ride. I haven't seen any of the other Wyatt Earp movies aside from My Darling Clementine so I should probably seen out some of the others. Overall a fun watch and it seems the type of movie I would catch on TV and follow watching again.

4

Citizen Rules

07-24-19, 02:03 PM

Tombstone

This is one of those movies that seemed to bypass me until now, but it seems like it would be a movie that I would have regarded as a fun watch back in the day, not necessarily a masterpiece or anything but a comfort film of sorts.
Hard to believe you only seen this now, cool that you liked it. I've watched a bunch of Wyatt Earp/Gunfight at OK Corral movies and most were really fun watches.

KeyserCorleone

07-25-19, 02:26 PM

We only have 4 ballots sent in. This needs to be more interesting.

Citizen Rules

07-25-19, 04:27 PM

We only have 4 ballots sent in. This needs to be more interesting. I requested Raging Bull from my library and should be sending in a ballot soon.

edarsenal

07-28-19, 02:24 PM

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Raging Bull

[Sugar Ray Robinson has just battered Jake La Motta half to death, but Jake has stayed on his feet]
Jake La Motta: You didn't get me down, Ray.

You know you're watching a pretty impressive, very well executed movie when, even though you hate the character, you still get caught up in the movie.
And that was my experience for (finally) seeing this film. Which is a Must See and yeah, that's a cliche but hey, it is what it is and this is what it is. Ya know.

Scorcese really delves into the style and format of a story instead of simply doing it "his way". The story (film) dictates how he approaches it technically and Raging Bull is a prime example of that. The fights mimic LaMotta's style of fighting. Getting in close, always advancing, and very very brutal. I've seen quite a lot of boxing movies and while a few get you up close and personal, this is the first one that I didn't feel like just a spectator. I was in the clinch and cringing from the unrelenting onslaught. Even the huddles between rounds seemed like I could rest my arm on someone's shoulder as they talked strategy for the coming round.
And that kind of intimacy carried on to the scenes outside the ring just as well. I wasn't a spectator who could simply judge with lofty indifference, I was there, in Brooklyn, in the hot confines of their apartment homes and the crowded night clubs.

The real magic is that while I was "there" throughout the film, I didn't necessarily feel trapped or constricted. Just very much involved in it all. The tension, the yelling, the threat of violence at every turn, the moments of weakness beneath the "bull" mannerisms, all of it.
And it all was captured and expressed vividly without the flash, without the glamour. It was real life, in Brooklyn about a real bull of a man and those around him.

An exceptional film and a very serious contender for this Big Hitter HoF.

rauldc14

07-29-19, 12:21 PM

Is Neiba still in? I already watched his nomination but didn't know if anyone heard from him. Watching Cinema Paradiso today.

edarsenal

07-29-19, 02:33 PM

Is Neiba still in? I already watched his nomination but didn't know if anyone heard from him. Watching Cinema Paradiso today.

Citizen Rules, ahwell KeyserCorleone, Miss Vicky Siddon, John-Conner, neiba, rauldc14, jiraffejustin

We are getting down to the final stretch for the coming deadline of August 7th.

This the very first HoF as a Host that has pretty much run all on its own without any incident. No disqualifications (knock on wood that I haven't cursed myself for saying it). Everyone has easily made each and every secondary deadline. Some great discussions have gone on that remain courteous.
I couldn't be happier with how smoothly it has run to the point of autopilot.

I want to thank each and every one of you for that: THANK YOU

Here's presently where we all stand:
edarsenal - 8/10 Reviews
Citizen Rules - 9/10 Reviews
ahwell - Ballot Sent
KeyserCorleone - Ballot Sent
Miss Vicky - Ballot Sent In
Siddon - Ballot Sent In
John-Conner - 7/10 Reviews
neiba - 8/10 Reviews
rauldc14 - 8/10 Reviews
jiraffejustin - 6/10 Reviews

There are 15 reviews left to be done and while I'm pretty confident that we can make the deadline, with 9 days remaining and so many other wonderful HoFs popping up, it can very easily remain, as stated in the opening post, tentative. Should anyone need a little more time, I am more than happy to make an extension. Just post and let us all know and we'll adjust accordingly.

Again, this has been THE smoothest HoF I've hosted to date and because of such an amazing job by you all, we can adjust the deadline to accommodate everyone, should it become necessary.
Any concerns, situations or problems that may cause us reason to adjust the deadline, PLEASE, let us know.

For myself, I have 3 to go along with 1 in the Sci-Fi to make the August 3 deadline and should be able to make it, per usual, under the wire for both while getting my feet wet in the newer HoFs that we have going on.

***EDIT: I have been adjusting the count as reviews come in since this post***

rauldc14

07-29-19, 04:24 PM

Cinema Paradiso

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This was something that I wasn't sure if I would like or not, but in the end it did strike a pretty solid cord with me. That ending was magnificent, perhaps one of the better in film history. There was such a lesson to learn for the main character, whom I grew fonder of the older he progressed in the film. I also really liked the character Alfredo who acted as his father figure for the most part. It was a really good screenplay too.

The film didn't look the greatest and sometimes I had hoped for a more interesting dialogue but overall I can overlook those things and say I really enjoyed the film. Great to see the bond between Elena and Salvatore/Toto stick through to the end. Again it was moving.

4

John-Connor

07-29-19, 04:38 PM

but in the end it did strike a pretty solid cord with me. That ending was magnificent, perhaps one of the better in film history.
^ my thoughts exactly, glad you enjoyed it / was moved by it. :up:

Citizen Rules

07-29-19, 10:15 PM

Cinema Paradiso
...There was such a lesson to learn for the main character... OK, what was the lesson? There's no right or wrong answer, but I'm really interested in people's take on this film as it seems everyone sees different things.

edarsenal

07-30-19, 12:10 AM

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Return To Paradise

Going into this, I semi knew the premise and wondered how they were going to play it out and finally, would it be a Hollywood ending or. . .?

WOW!

This was actually very well done and while a large chunk of the film was: do they go back? WILL they go back? Will only one of them go? I still found myself caught up in what was transpiring and the tension that was rising at this momentous crossroad.
A lot of the build up of them on the beaches and in the city was done rather well and moved swiftly along while introducing the characters and their friendship.
In fact, I was very much surprised by the quick pace of the film itself. When they returned to De Nang I checked the time out of curiosity and was very surprised at how far in I was.

I've read other reviews saying they cared little for Neche and Vaughn and while I'm on the fence with both of them, I found them quite engaging in this one.
As for Phoenix?
Holy sh#t!! A complete precursor of what this man is truly capable of doing when going for the emotional and mental extreme. It was very powerful. Even more so for how things came about from the court scene and on.
On a side note it does reaffirm my hatred for the parasitic, self-centered, hypocrisy of journalism when their intrusion caused the Judge to change his mind from leniency to death on the following morning.
I was jaw-dropped the entire time from there on and emotional as hell as it happened.
Very powerful.
Very, very powerful.

I remember thinking, when it came out: there's no way I can deal with this film and what, most likely, would be a very hard hitting scenario at that time.
Not sure now as the time drew closer to seeing it, but, thank you Vicky for nominating this and so that I DO see it.

Miss Vicky

07-30-19, 12:24 AM

Great to see a positive review of Return to Paradise after so many lukewarm to negative ones. So glad you enjoyed it, Ed!

Siddon

07-30-19, 12:56 AM

BTW just to

@KeyserCorleone (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=94296), @john (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=90)-Conner, @neiba (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=85193), @jiraffejustin (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=76459), @MissVicky, @rauldc14 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=60169)

Just a heads up if you like high quality films I'm doing the comedy hall from 1952-1976, I'm trying to get 10 people and 20 noms the quality is very high to give you an idea the IMDB rankings right now...

IMDB
8.4
8.3
8.2
8.0
7.8
7.8
7.7
7.7
7.5
7.4
7.2
7.2

Miss Vicky

07-30-19, 03:34 AM

BTW just to
@MissVicky

Just a heads up if you like high quality films I'm doing the comedy hall from 1952-1976, I'm trying to get 10 people and 20 noms the quality is very high to give you an idea the IMDB rankings right now...

Pass.

John-Connor

07-30-19, 04:16 AM

Pass but thanks for the heads up!

rauldc14

07-30-19, 09:32 AM

Thanks for the invite Siddon but I am going to pass on that one. Sorry

edarsenal

07-30-19, 05:59 PM

Great to see a positive review of Return to Paradise after so many lukewarm to negative ones. So glad you enjoyed it, Ed!

you know me, I'm pretty much a safe bet for enjoying your nom or already be in love with it :);)
thanks for nominating it

neiba

07-31-19, 05:21 PM

I'm in and I've seen every film already! But I'm in the process of moving to a different country. Will post my reviews soon and send my list!

edarsenal

07-31-19, 08:46 PM

I'm in and I've seen every film already! But I'm in the process of moving to a different country. Will post my reviews soon and send my list!
Hope everything goes well with the move.
A different country?! That sounds pretty exciting and I'd imagine, a LOT of paperwork.

jiraffejustin

08-02-19, 03:50 PM

Cinema Paradiso

The main criticism that gets tossed around at this film has to do with sentimentality, but personally I'm not so cynical that I can't enjoy something this warm. Especially considering that underneath a lot of the warmth is a man looking back at not just the good things, but also a lot of hurt and missed opportunity. Even with the glow of sentimentality attached to nostalgia, it's hard to argue that the film doesn't properly nail that feeling of longing you get when you look back at a time that you wish you could go back and visit. All you are left with is memories and your choices.

Angel Face

Not your typical Noir, but I can't say that I was ever really all that surprised by anything that transpired. That doesn't sound like much of a compliment, but when I get a nice juicy steak, I'm not usually surprised by anything that transpires. I do, however, get exactly what I am asking for, and I am very happy with it all the same. I could see that ending coming from a mile away, but just like that steak, it was very tasty indeed.

rauldc14

08-02-19, 10:20 PM

Gaslight

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I had seen this when I first joined Mofo. It was pretty highly acclaimed and I was just getting into classic films. I didn't enjoy it much then.

I had a bigger appreciation for it this time though. First off was the look of the film and the setting. It looked really crisp. I don't know if this has a Criterion but it certainly deserves one. I really liked the shots of the outside of the house, looked really cool.

Ingrid Bergman was really awesome in this, not to the level of Casablanca but I think this may contend with Autumn Sonata as her second favorite performance that I've seen. Charles Boyer was pretty darn food in his role to. Although underutilized I enjoyed both Joseph Cotten and Angela Lansbury as well.

I just like how the pressure of what was happening seemed to mount. While we technically knew Ingrid's character wasn't going crazy we just hoped for the best possible outcome for her. It was redeeming to see Boyer's character get caught in the act.

A really good film. Could maybe even become a favorite down the road so thanks for nominating it Siddon.

4

John-Connor

08-03-19, 07:09 PM

Gaslight 1944

So I watched about 15 min. of Gaslight 1940 by accident, wondering when Bergman was going to show up..
The first few shots and scenes of the original film were actually slightly better imo.
I agree with the critiques on the run time on this one, for me it felt even longer because I spent +/_15 min. watching the 1940's version.
Charles Boyer, Ingrid Bergman were both excellent in the acting department. Especially Bergman, because her character Paula was written a bit too frail, naive and self-doubtful at times. Boyer's character could have gotten a little more screen-time.
Loved the wardrobe, setting, cinematography and lighting throughout the whole film.
I believe the third act with the great liberating final shot on the balcony and Bergman's performance made the film a classic within the psychological thriller genre.
Glad I got to see it, good nomination.

edarsenal

08-03-19, 09:26 PM

Citizen Rules, ahwell KeyserCorleone, Miss Vicky Siddon, John-Conner, neiba, rauldc14, jiraffejustin

We're down to 3 Days left with 10 movie reviews left to go and to accommodate us slackers, I will move the deadline back one week to ensure we all finish.

So, new and hopefully final deadline: August 14, 2019

List of slowpokes
edarsenal - 8/10 Reviews
John-Conner - 8/10 Reviews
neiba - 8/10 Reviews
rauldc14 - 9/10 Reviews
jiraffejustin - 8/10 Reviews

***Citizen Rules sent his ballot in and will be posting his final review***

Citizen Rules

08-03-19, 10:54 PM

@Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637), @ahwell (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=101613) @KeyserCorleone (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=94296), @Miss Vicky (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=55955) @Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448), @John-Conner (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=90), @neiba (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=85193), @rauldc14 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=60169), @jiraffejustin (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=76459)

We're down to 3 Days left with 10 movie reviews left to go and to accommodate us slackers, I will move the deadline back one week to ensure we all finish.

So, new and hopefully final deadline: August 14, 2019

List of slowpokes
edarsenal - 8/10 Reviews
John-Conner - 8/10 Reviews
neiba - 8/10 Reviews
rauldc14 - 9/10 Reviews
jiraffejustin - 8/10 Reviews

***Citizen Rules sent his ballot in and will be posting his final review***I guess that's a reminder that I was forgetful:p OK, will do:)

Citizen Rules

08-03-19, 11:05 PM

I didn't rewatch Raging Bull after all, so this is an excerpt from my review. Though I rewrote it so it's sort of a Raging Bull redox review.

Raging Bull (1980)

I usually like boxing movies and right off the bat I see this is shot in black & white, which to me is a huge plus. Then I realize its about a real boxer, Jake LaMotta (who I'd never heard of). Bio Pics + period pieces are just the type of films I usually love...so far so good.

So I should have loved this, but I was bored to tears. Say what you will about critiquing styles, ultimately for me a film works or not, if it can hold me attention, and this didn't. I wanted to shut it off after 15 minutes but figured any movie this respected most get better, for me it never did.

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I didn't hate it, even worse I felt nothing, no emotions, zip. I've never been a fan of Robert DeNiro and here he didn't relay any emotions to me other than he was paranoid and even that wasn't really explored, not in any deeper way.

But maybe that's not his fault as Scorsese does his attempt at European New Wave cinema. So I'd say the lack of story or character development is intentional on Scorsese's part and so the film just didn't click with me.

To me it felt like I was watching parts of a movie with the connecting scenes gone. Snippets of a film as it were, such as Jake's first wife disappears from the film without a trace. His second wife reminded me of Kim Novak but without any of her inner qualities, she was the worst written & performed character in the movie. Joe Pesci was the best, he seemed inspired and alive.

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I expected some character arcs to take place with the dissolving marriage as a back drop in which to show us how Jake's personality destroys everything. But that wasn't done. Once again that's probably because it's a New Wave style film. Yea, I did get the idea of the film and what Scorsese was showing and it failed me, not surprising French New Wave doesn't work well for me either.

jiraffejustin

08-04-19, 01:12 AM

I am going to get to Virgin Spring soon and write up a little bit about it. However, I don't plan on writing up anything else about my nom. I've written some about it in here already and responded to a couple of people about it.

I nominated Raging Bull mostly because I recently rewatched it and it was on my mind. I wrote a couple notes to myself about it on Notepad, but it wasn't really anything too substantial. I'll just share them here since I already have them.

Many reasons exist to shoot films in black and white, but it seems to me that just one of the reasons chosen for Raging Bull is to make it stand out as far as possible from the hugely popular Rocky films at the time. Raging Bull is the best boxing film of all-time and probably the the boxing film that least cares about boxing. Which makes it all the more interesting that the boxing scenes do such a great job of being interpretive dances representing LaMotta's outside-the-ring life. The Janiro fight and the final Sugar Ray fight are the best examples; his insecurities, jealousy, and anger are taken out on Janiro and he pummels the poor kid, and the final Sugar Ray fight is his penance for all his sh*ttiness. Even though he is shown fighting another person in all these fights, his real opponent was always himself.

I considered this my write-up on it.

John-Connor

08-04-19, 07:08 AM

Raging Bull 1980 (4th re-watch Blu-ray)
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Although not my favorite Scorsese / DeNiro film, it's still a certified classic.
Scorsese's realest, rawest and most artful piece of cinema, and my second favorite Joe Pesci performance after Goodfellas.
The genre tags read biography, drama, sport, in that order, and that's exactly what you get.
A biopic of the often very unsympathetic 'animal' Jake LaMotta, mission accomplished.
The world, atmosphere and entourages of sharks and hyenas that have always surrounded the boxing sport and still do are very immersive.
True hall of famer imo, if not this round, surely at some point in the future.
Great nomination 'forget about it'..

rauldc14

08-04-19, 09:22 PM

I would be shocked if one of the big 3 don't take this.

Just a Godfather rewatch left for me. I'll try to tackle it relatively soon.

Citizen Rules

08-04-19, 10:08 PM

I would be shocked if one of the big 3 don't take this.

Just a Godfather rewatch left for me. I'll try to tackle it relatively soon. I'll be shocked if Pulp Fiction doesn't win.

Siddon

08-04-19, 10:26 PM

I would be shocked if one of the big 3 don't take this.

Just a Godfather rewatch left for me. I'll try to tackle it relatively soon.

I don't think Raging Bull is in this, I wouldn't be shocked if The Virgin Spring doesn't play a spoiler role

ahwell

08-04-19, 11:38 PM

I would be shocked if one of the big 3 don't take this.

Just a Godfather rewatch left for me. I'll try to tackle it relatively soon. I'll be shocked if Pulp Fiction doesn't win.

Nah, I bet The Godfather will take it... looking at the reviews, more people slightly favor The Godfather over Pulp Fiction.

rauldc14

08-05-19, 12:50 PM

The Godfather

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My third watch here. It's definitely a film that probably deserves a rightful Hall of Fame induction. Coppola put a ton of time into this and you can tell. The sets he uses are fantastic I specifically like the setting where the Corleone family does business.

For me if I were to truly badger at an issue, it would be the second half pacing. Seems like there are some scenes they could cut out in my opinion. I most prefer the first half to the second half, not that the second half is bad just that it seems like more of the interesting action and dialogue takes place earlier.

But this is certainly a film that has a lot of acting talent. All the right choices were made. Brando, Pacino, and Can are fantastic (really thought Caan was great this time around. I liked Keaton and I thought Duval did a fairly decent job too. It's a true introduction to a proper gangster flick and although not the first it definitely set a ceiling that has been pretty difficult to reach.

I do respect the film slightly more than I enjoy it so that makes it pretty hard to rank. But I think it has improved with every rewatch as well so even tougher.

Now I need to stop rewatching this and finally get to part 2 (and 3).

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edarsenal

08-12-19, 02:07 PM

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Cinema Paradiso

For me, this was a delightful love letter to the joy of the movie theater and all that occurs when we get together as a crowd to enjoy any given movie. As expressed by the citizens of this small town and how enamored they are with the local movie house.
From its beginnings with the local priest censoring films (any time anyone kissed) to the fire and rebuilding to the end of the film and the funeral of its original projectionist, Alfredo. Along with its own demolition. Signifying a sad changing of how the collective enjoyment of such things is very much becoming the past.
Even though we follow Toto as a child and teenager and finally as a middle-aged man, it is still the citizens of the town and their involvement in the nightly viewing of so many different movies and all that transpires within, and at times, without the movie house that kept me so very much involved.
And yes, that finale as Salvatore (Toto) watches the film that Alfredo left for him was just all kinds of beautiful.
Another gem found only through my participation of HoFs. YAY

rauldc14

08-12-19, 02:30 PM

Could be turning into a sleeper pick of sorts for this HOF...

John-Connor

08-12-19, 02:36 PM

Cinema Paradiso
*spoilers*
To me this movie is about the magic of movies. More specific the theater (Cinema Paradiso) the building, film reels / containers, the celluloid, the projector, the projectionist, the censorship, the town, it's viewers, their lives. And a boy who falls in love with all of it. Everything in the film revolves around the 'Cinema Paradiso'. Making the theater a central character in the movie, showing it's adventures as well as it's ups and downs. The building eventually gets torn down. But Alfredo has contained all of this 'movie magic' (the censored and often best parts of the golden age of cinema) in one reel, making it a highly concentrated movie magic containing bomb which explodes in the final scene of the movie. This explosion was so intense to me that I felt the magic through the screen.
Hard to review because it's more a feeling you get and there aren't really concrete / explainable factors to mention or dissect. It's just magic.

John-Connor

08-12-19, 02:49 PM

Ballot sent!

edarsenal

08-13-19, 02:57 PM

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The Virgin Spring

Beggar: Flying birds find something, sitting birds only find death. I have found both women and churches.

My experience with Bergman is nearly non-existent. In fact, after perusing his list of films it was even more so than I had initially believed. (My only other Bergman film is Through a Glass Darkly.)
Something I may reconsider if not just to see more of a young Max Von Sydow whom I've always enjoyed in later films and, of course, within this film with such presence as the loving, trauma-ridden father of the young Karin who is raped, killed and her clothes stolen.

In fact, I did enjoy the ensemble within this film. The mother and the farmhands, though not so much the daughter. Though that may be a subconscious thing knowing what was to befall her.
The thieves/rapists/murderers did an excellent job as desperate, hungry, cruel individuals who covet and steal with brutality.
I especially like the performance of Gunnel Lindblom who played Ingeri. The jealous bitterness was displayed very well in the opening parts of the film. Her calling out to Odin in particular created a strong promise of the "mood" of this film.

Something I didn't realize until meandering through IMDb as I do, but the one-eyed Bridge Keeper is actually supposed to be Odin with a number of hints to express this. A nice touch, that. And an amusing irony since the family is ardently Catholic and it is a "pagan" god that answers the prayers of the servant girl, Ingeri while the catholic God allows the rape/murder to occur. Sydow's character lamenting over that fact at the end of the film while with the same breath promises to build a church for Him.

While I am someone who does struggle through most arthouse films throughout the years, I found myself involved and intrigued as this played out.
I also watched the interview with director Ang Lee with the DVD I rented from my library. He had an excellent remark about how this film was so serene even with so much violence. He also noted on the intriguing use of filming Sydow's lamenting figure from behind instead of, as is more common, from in front to capture his emotions and how he would find himself doing the same thing when filming a character deeply lost in similar circumstances.
Intriguing stuff.

And an intriguing film to finish this Hall of Fame with.

jiraffejustin

08-13-19, 04:57 PM

Some spoilers

The Virgin Spring

The most obvious thing that comes from Bergman films is that they are going to be beautiful and they are also going to be intense. They are going to be deep and they are going to be the type of films that you will probably have to return to gather all the things you need to really understand what you've seen. I don't know what everything I see means in his films, but they always make me think about various aspects of them film. In this one, we get a lot of fire and water. In Christianity both fire and water play a huge role. From the fires of hell or cloven tongues like as of fire. And water, the obvious one is the baptisms. Paganism is a large part of this film too, but I honestly know nothing about paganism in any form, so I anything that has to do with comparing and contrasting the two will be totally lost on me. But if this film is an attack on Christianity or religion in general, it is way more thought out than the typical militant atheist spouting whatever artless nonsense they have to say on the philosophies of the world. We see the little girl's father fighting with what God has allowed to be done and his own actions. I've seen a whole bunch of revenge films, but this might be the best one because man does that revenge not feel cathartic at all. I probably need to see this film 30 more times to really grasp everything Mr. Bergman had for me.

rauldc14

08-13-19, 05:15 PM

Nice comments by both of you! Glad it brought out a lot of thoughts for everyone!

edarsenal

08-13-19, 09:04 PM

Citizen Rules, ahwell KeyserCorleone, Miss Vicky Siddon, John-Conner, neiba, rauldc14, jiraffejustin

IT IS OFFICIAL
ALL VOTES ARE NOW IN!!
With one day left on our extended deadline we have everyone's vote in!

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As I've stated before this has been the EASIET Hall of Fame that I've run so far. Everyone stayed in, no serious disturbances or issues and just a small group of us slackers (which of course I do include myself in). Thank you ALL for your participation and assistance in making it such a breeze to host.

While we do have neiba's reviews for Cinema Paradiso and Return To Paradise left to post, I will be doing the reveal on:

Thursday August 15 around 9 O'Clock pm Eastern Time
should there be a wish to move it to Friday or Saturday, I can do either of those days as well, while keeping it around 9 pm on whatever night we all go for.
On the day of the reveal, somewhere around 8pm or a little after, I'll post a mention with a more accurate reveal time, along with a 10 min HEADS UP before the Reveal begins.
Let me know which (if any of the 3 days) work best for everyone.

Citizen Rules

08-13-19, 09:08 PM

Cool...Nicely done Ed...I'll try to be here if I can.

ahwell

08-13-19, 09:11 PM

Oof, I don't think I can make the Thursday and Friday, but looking forward to see what wins!

rauldc14

08-13-19, 09:13 PM

This one was great. I am really pumped for the 20th as well. One of the best generals in a long time.

rauldc14

08-13-19, 09:15 PM

Best since the 8th for me

Miss Vicky

08-13-19, 10:31 PM

I get the sneaking suspicion that my nomination will be in last place.

Citizen Rules

08-13-19, 10:51 PM

This one was great. I am really pumped for the 20th as well. One of the best generals in a long time. I'll hold off on starting the 20th until most of the regulars have caught their breath and are ready for it. You guys just let me know when you want it to start.

John-Connor

08-14-19, 03:42 AM

John-Conner
Wrong Conner Ed, i'm John-Connor.. :D
Won't make 9 PM eastern (that's 3 AM over here) but will check it out first thing in the morning.

edarsenal

08-14-19, 01:33 PM

Wrong Conner Ed, i'm John-Connor.. :D
Won't make 9 PM eastern (that's 3 AM over here) but will check it out first thing in the morning.

I am SUCH a putz!
Sorry about that John.

John-Connor

08-14-19, 01:46 PM

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rauldc14

08-15-19, 05:40 AM

By the way, I have my 20th HOF Nomination possibility list narrowed down to 4 movies.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 11:52 AM

By the way, I have my 20th HOF Nomination possibility list narrowed down to 4 movies.

I think I might have a movie great that never made it to an HoF. Or maybe something else entirely. No idea.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 09:05 PM

Citizen Rules, ahwell KeyserCorleone, Miss Vicky Siddon, John-Connor, neiba, rauldc14, jiraffejustin

It definitely looks like we should be a go for the 9pm Eastern Time Reveals.

Just a quick heads up, there is one tie, so instead of starting at #10, my countdown reveal will start at #9.

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 09:23 PM

@Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637), @ahwell (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=101613) @KeyserCorleone (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=94296), @Miss Vicky (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=55955) @Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448), @John-Connor (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=102242), @neiba (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=85193), @rauldc14 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=60169), @jiraffejustin (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=76459)

It definitely looks like we should be a go for the 9pm Eastern Time Reveals.

Just a quick heads up, there is one tie, so instead of starting at #10, my countdown reveal will start at #9.Here and accounted for:p I'll be online at 9 your time.

Siddon

08-15-19, 09:32 PM

I think I might have a movie great that never made it to an HoF. Or maybe something else entirely. No idea.

I have a really good nomination that has never been nominated in any of the hall of fames to my knowledge and it's going to be on theme time frame.

ahwell

08-15-19, 09:47 PM

A tie? Best possible outcome- Pulp Fiction and The Godfather tie for the win.

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 09:49 PM

A tie? Best possible outcome- Pulp Fiction and The Godfather tie for the win.That would indeed be a momentous occasion. It's possible I suppose.

ahwell

08-15-19, 09:53 PM

A tie? Best possible outcome- Pulp Fiction and The Godfather tie for the win.That would indeed be a momentous occasion. It's possible I suppose.

I’m just mad at myself for nominating PF for this hall of fame, I feel like it easily could have won In the previous one... but oh well I don’t really do these for the competition, got to see a whole score of great films.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 09:55 PM

A tie? Best possible outcome- Pulp Fiction and The Godfather tie for the win.

rats, he guessed it

okay no point to this, everybody go home. About your business, now. Off ya go.

just kidding. A few minutes more. and we're off.

rauldc14

08-15-19, 09:55 PM

I'm thinking a Godfather win. I predict Virgin Spring and Cinema Paradiso tie somewhere along the lines

edarsenal

08-15-19, 09:58 PM

here's one more bit of voting trivia:

8 of us voted our nominations for first place.
oh, what a bunch of selfish b@stards we are lol

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 09:59 PM

I’m just mad at myself for nominating PF for this hall of fame, I feel like it easily could have won In the previous one... but oh well I don’t really do these for the competition, got to see a whole score of great films.I feel ya pain:p I had a notion that Tombstone might win.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 09:59 PM

I liked mine the best. :shrug:

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:00 PM

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Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:00 PM

I liked mine the best. :shrug: Me too, I mean my nom that is;)

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:05 PM

#9
Return To Paradise
Nominated by Miss Vicky
30 pts

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Voting scores: 1st, 10th, 10th, 9th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 7th, 8th, 5th

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:05 PM

Yep, saw that coming

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:07 PM

No surprise there, even Phoenix couldn't save it from all those last place votes. I had it at 10 myself.

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:08 PM

I had it at 9, I actually kind of liked it, but all the nominations were so high level.

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:09 PM

I wonder who had it at 5? I can't remember the reactions to the films without going back and reading.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:10 PM

#8
Angel Face
Nominated by Neiba
42 pts

https://twentyfourframes.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/angel-face1.jpg

Voting scores: 9th, 7th, 7th, 7th, 3rd, 7th, 8th, 4th, 7th, 9th

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:10 PM

I wonder who had it at 5? I can't remember the reactions to the films without going back and reading.

Probably ed

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:11 PM

I had Angel Face at 7, again, liked it but high quality noms.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:11 PM

Eh. Didn’t care for Angel Face

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:11 PM

I had Return To Paradise at #5

Also had Angel Face at 9th. Not out of dislike, it just simply ended up there having not a single film I didn't like in the bunch

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:12 PM

Oh! too low...well there were some pretty great noms this time around. No surprise I suppose I had it at #3. I love classic film noir and I was glad to see some diversity. Thanks for nominating it @neiba (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=85193)

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:13 PM

Oh! too low...well there were some pretty great noms this time around. No surprise I suppose I had it at #3. I love classic film noir and I was glad to see some diversity. Thanks for nominating neiba

Wow, you voted it higher than Neiba even... I read your older review of it and I guess you’ve warmed up to it then?

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:13 PM

Probably edHe does tend to like your noms. And I just read that you guessed right!

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:14 PM

#7
Open Range
Nominated by edarsenal
48 pts

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5748a24986db431f09373b1c/t/57e962115016e1168cef4ed3/1474912790216/?format=750w

Voting scores: 2nd, 9th, 9th, 8th, 2nd, 6th, 6th, 9th, 10th, 1st

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:14 PM

Wow, you voted it higher than Neiba even... I read your older review of it and I guess you’ve warmed up to it then?Yeah, it's weird in that I kinda hated it on the first go. I guess I was in a mood for a different type of noir, it's more of a noir-thriller.

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:15 PM

Had Open Range at 8. It was good, but clearly the worse of the two westerns nominated in my opinion.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:15 PM

Open Range should have been higher. I think I had it at number 2

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:15 PM

couple of pegs lower than I expected, but oh well.

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:16 PM

Ugh! I really liked Open Range. It was my number 2.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:17 PM

Open Range should have been higher. I think I had it at number 2

yes, you did have it at #2

BTW, I'm at work so the graphics this go ahead are going to be a bit bland.
Sorry for that.

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:17 PM

yes, you did have it at #2

BTW, I'm at work so the graphics this go ahead are going to be a bit bland.
Sorry for that.You're at work? I admire your work ethic:p

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:20 PM

#6
Raging Bull
Nominated by jiraffesjustin
49 pts

https://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Raging-Bull1-578x231.png

Voting scores: 10th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 9th, 8th, 3rd, 5th, 2nd, 10th

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:21 PM

No no no no Raging Bull was my #3 but it’s also in my top five favorite movies. Two voted it last?!

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:21 PM

You're at work? I admire your work ethic:p

Employee of the Month, 8 months running!

;)

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:22 PM

Oh hell no

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:22 PM

I had Raging Bull at #9...BUT I do think it's a well made movie, but very specialized in that it seems to be a very personal film for the director. Unfortunately I had no connection to the boxer or professional boxing history. I've even forgotten what his name was. If I was a boxing fan I might have liked it more.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:22 PM

No no no no Raging Bull was my #3 but it’s also in my top five favorite movies. Two voted it last?!

I was one of them.

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:24 PM

No no no no Raging Bull was my #3 but it’s also in my top five favorite movies. Two voted it last?!

I was one of them.

I assumed so, you had an absolutely scathing review.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:24 PM

#5
Tombstone
Nominated by Citizen Rules
51 pts

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=54631

Voting scores:4th, 5th, 1st, 4th, 10th, 4th, 4th, 7th, 8th, 6th, 7th

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:25 PM

Oh crud, I love Tombstone and it's in the bottom 1/3rd, double ugh!:)

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:25 PM

I was the other #10.
Again, not out of dislike, I simply enjoyed the others more.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:25 PM

Annnnd, our Tie coming up!

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:26 PM

Hey that's my photo I used, cool, I'm guessing you used all of our photos on the reveal?

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:26 PM

Tombstone I loved but still had at #6 due to some reservations. Shocked though that this and Gaslight beat out Raging Bull.

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:27 PM

I’m guessing Virgin Spring and Gaslight tie.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:32 PM

Had Tombstone at fourth. Long time favorite but I didn’t love it as much this time

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:33 PM

Tie #4
The Virgin Spring
Nominated by rauldc14
54 pts

https://www.closeupfilmcentre.com/download_file/view_inline/7016/

Voting scores:8th, 2nd, 8th, 5th, 8th, 1st, 9th, 6th, 3rd, 6th

Tie #4
Gaslight
Nominated by Siddon
54 pts

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=54708

Voting scores:5th, 1st, 4th, 10th, 4th, 4th, 7th, 8th, 6th, 7th

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:34 PM

Yup, I’m good with that I guess. I was not a huge fan of Gaslight (#10) and loved The Virgin Spring (#5). The Virgin Spring will probably make a top 100 if I ever make one.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:34 PM

As much as I like Bergman, I’ll never like The Virgin Spring. Gaslight is pretty good

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:35 PM

#3
Cinema Paradiso
Nominated by John-Connor
70 pts

https://www.italymagazine.com/sites/default/files/feature-story/gallery/smallnuovocinemaparadiso.jpg

Voting scores:7th, 8th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 3rd

jiraffejustin

08-15-19, 10:36 PM

#3
Cinema Paradiso
Nominated by John-Connor
70 pts

https://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Raging-Bull1-578x231.png

Voting scores:7th, 8th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 3rd

At least a picture of my film ended up in a more correct spot.

ed's editing fingers are faster than my reply fingers

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:37 PM

Cinema Paradiso was my #4. I actually watched it twice and liked it much better the second time... I was originally planning to have it 6 or 7.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:38 PM

At least a picture of my film ended up in a more correct spot.

ed's editing fingers are faster than my reply fingers

LOL

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:38 PM

Cinema was a wonderful surprise for me. Had it at #3

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:39 PM

I was luke warm on the last three films. Though I had Gaslight at #4 I tend to like the older version of it better.

4 Gaslight
6 Cinema Paradiso
8 The Virgin Spring

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:40 PM

Alright, here's where's that interesting bit of trivia regarding 8 of us voting for our own.
The two remaining people BOTH voted the #1 spot for the same movie!!

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:45 PM

Didn't care for Cinema Paradisio.

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:45 PM

Fingers crossed The Godfather takes the win so I never have to watch it again.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:46 PM

SECOND PLACE
The Godfather
Nominated by KeyserCorleone
77 pts

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=54612

Voting scores:6th, 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 5th, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 4th

FIRST PLACE
Pulp Fiction
Nominated by ahwell
78 pts

https://i.gifer.com/2T3M.gif

Voting scores:3rd, 4th, 2nd, 1st, 7th, 9th, 4th, 1st, 1st, 2nd

ahwell

08-15-19, 10:47 PM

One point.... wow. So glad Pulp Fiction won but would have been fine with Godfather as well.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:47 PM

Fingers crossed The Godfather takes the win so I never have to watch it again.

sorry to disappoint.
The Horror MUST continue for you

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:47 PM

Damn it.

Pulp Fiction is a great movie, and definitely deserves it over The Godfather, but can we just disqualify The Godfather from future HOFs on principle?

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:49 PM

CONGRATS ahwell for the win!! BRAVO

and THANKS ALL for participating!!

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 10:49 PM

Big, BIG thanks to Ed for hosting! You're the man Ed.

Congrats to Ahwell for nominating, yet again! the winning film:) Can he repeat his good taste in noms for the 20th????

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:51 PM

My ballot:

1. Return to Paradise
2. Open Range
3. Pulp Fiction
4. Tombstone
5. Gaslight
6. The Godfather
7. Cinema Paradisio
8. The Virgin Spring
9. Angel Face
10. Raging Bull

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:51 PM

Big, BIG thanks to Ed for hosting! You're the man Ed.

Congrats to Ahwell for nominating, yet again! the winning film:) Can he repeat his good taste in noms for the 20th????

Thanks CR, but I honestly can't take any credit on this one. It REALLY did run its self.
The credit truly goes to all of you for making it so.

and yes, ahwell is coming in like gangbusters for the win.

edarsenal

08-15-19, 10:53 PM

My List
Open Range
Pulp Fiction
Cinema Paradiso
The Godfather
Return To Paradise
The Virgin Spring
Gaslight
Tombstone
Angel Face
Raging Bull

Miss Vicky

08-15-19, 10:57 PM

I wondered who else had Raging Bull at 10.

Love you, Ed!

jiraffejustin

08-15-19, 10:58 PM

my ballot:

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Raging Bull
3. The Virgin Spring
4. Cinema Paradiso
5. The Godfather
6. Gaslight
7. Angel Face
8. Return to Paradise
9. Tombstone
10. Open Range

Citizen Rules

08-15-19, 11:04 PM

Here's how I voted. I think all of the noms were great films in their own way, they just didn't speak to me and of course I can't vote them all #1. The only film I really disliked was Return to Paradise.

1 Tombstone
2 Open Range
3 Angel Face
4 Gaslight
5 The Godfather
6 Cinema Paradiso
7 Pulp Fiction
8 The Virgin Spring
9 Raging Bull
10 Return to Paradise

edarsenal

08-15-19, 11:12 PM

Hey that's my photo I used, cool, I'm guessing you used all of our photos on the reveal?
tried to, except when someone doesn't use one

Siddon

08-15-19, 11:28 PM

Gaslight
The Virgin Spring
The Godfather
Pulp Fiction
Tombstone
Raging Bull
Angel Face
Cinema Paridiso
Open Range
Return to Paradise

This was an extremely strong hall of fame I liked 1-7, somewhat fitting my #1 and #2 ended up tying

KeyserCorleone

08-16-19, 12:06 AM

AAH I was so close! That was awesome.

1. The Godfather
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Cinema Paradiso
4. Raging Bull
5. Gaslight
6. Tombstone
7. Angel Face
8. The Virgin Spring
9. Open Range
10. Return to Paradise

gbgoodies

08-16-19, 12:11 AM

I wasn't in this HoF, so I didn't watch all the movies that were nominated, but this would have been my list for the movies that I watched:

1) Return to Paradise
2) Gaslight
3) Tombstone
4) The Godfather
5) Raging Bull
6) Pulp Fiction

I didn't watch Angel Face yet, but I added it to my watchlist. Also, I found the DVD of Cinema Paradiso at a garage sale last weekend, and I bought it based on the reviews in this HoF. Hopefully I'll like it as much as everyone else did.