Classic Comedy Hall of Fame

[Siddon]

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The era that this will cover is 1914-1951, this will be for feature length films. If participation is low I may ask for 2nd noms which would be a pity because this is a vibrant and rich period of time in history and a huge blindspot with our Hall of Fames. My hope is to break this genre down into 3 to 4 periods of time.


April-June, June-August, August-October, October-December and if we need overlap than it will happen but I'm hoping to have this whole thing complete by January 1st next year





-If you have trouble locating a particular film, please ask for help in this thread. When responding to help requests, please do so via private message. Do not directly link or embed films in this thread.

-You will be required to watch all nominated films and will be expected to write at least a few sentences about each of them. If you have seen a nominated film already and feel you have watched it recently enough to give it fair consideration in voting, you may pass on watching it again. However, you will still be expected to write up your thoughts on the film in this thread.

-Refusal to watch any nominated film will result in disqualification.

-If for any reason you need to drop out of participating in this Hall of Fame, please notify me a.s.a.p. either in this thread or via private message or profile comment.



New Rule
You must have 1 write-up done in the first 2 weeks
You must have 2 write-ups done in the first month
You must have 4 write-ups done in the first 6 weeks
You must have All write-ups done by June 1st



You will get a PM and one extension with a request otherwise you're out.




The Nominee's

Sherlock Jr (1924) Disqualified
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Review and Nom'd by AlexWilder (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003627#post2003627)
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002698#post2002698)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002998#post2002998)


Monkey Business(1931)
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Review and Nom by EdArsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004056#post2004056)
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003477#post2003477)
Review by Alex Wilder (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004055#post2004055)
Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008740#post2008740)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002998#post2002998)


Trouble in Paradise (1932) Disqualified
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Review and Nom'd by AlexWilder (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004543#post2004543)
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003629#post2003629)
Review by Citizen Rules
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004165#post2004165)
Review by Edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004034#post2004034)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004178#post2004178)
Review by Siddon (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008063#post2008063)


Duck Soup (1933
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Review and Nom'd by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005232#post2005232)
Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006219#post2006219)
Review by EdArsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008957#post2008957)
Review by GulfportDoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006586#post2006586)

It's a Gift (1934)
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Nom'd by Siddon
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004364#post2004364)
Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008925#post2008925)
Review by EdArsenal
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007344#post2007344)
Review by Gulfportdoc
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005888#post2005888)


Top Hat (1935)

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Nom'd by Siddon
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006650#post2006650)
Review by EdArsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008305#post2008305)
Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2009489#post2009489)
Review by GulfportDoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006975#post2006975)

Modern Times (1936)
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Review and Nom'd by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004060#post2004060)
Review by EdArsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007344#post2007344)
Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006637#post2006637)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007739#post2007739)

Nothing Sacred (1937)
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Review and Nom'd by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004387#post2004387)
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007310#post2007310)
Review by Edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2010537#post2010537)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004912#post2004912)

True Confession (1937)
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Nom'd and Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005293#post2005293)
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005483#post2005483)
Review by Edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005426#post2005426)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005321#post2005321)
Review by Siddon
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003750#post2003750)

His Girl Friday (1940)

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Nom'd GulfportDoc
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004662#post2004662)
Review by EdArsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005804#post2005804)
Review by Nathanial (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006476#post2006476)
Review by Siddon (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2010573#post2010573)

Arsenic and Old Lace (1944)


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Nom'd by GulfportDoc
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007290#post2007290)
Review by Edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003263#post2003263)
Review by Siddon (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008740#post2008740)

Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949) DISQUALIFIED

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Nom'd by Nathaniel
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007485#post2007485)
Review by CitizenRules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005527#post2005527)
Review by edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005429#post2005429)
Review by GulfportDoc
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005748#post2005748)

Harvey (1950)
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Nom'd and review by EdArsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2005633#post2005633)
Review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008125#post2008125)
Review by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2007899#post2007899)
Review by Gulfportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2008929#post2008929)
Review by Siddon
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2006372#post2006372)

The Lavender Hill Mob (1951) DISQUALIFIED
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Nom'd by Nathaniel
review by Ahwell (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2010007#post2010007)
review by Gulportdoc (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2010170#post2010170)

[ahwell]

Yes! Fun, I will definitely join, not too familiar with classic comedy right now either.

[edarsenal]

oh, HELL YES!!

[Siddon]

Looks like we're going to need to do double noms


CosmicRunaway, cricket, @CitizenRules, rauldc14, MijaFrost, @PussyGalore, @Nathanial, @Chypmonk, @Jiraffejustin

[ahwell]

Who has joined so far?

[Siddon]

Who has joined so far?


3, you me and ed

[CosmicRunaway]

While I might join in for later decades, I'm not overly familiar with many comedies from this era, and the few I do really like have been nominated in previous HoFs. I know the only stipulation is that the film can't have won, but I'd rather nominate something that hasn't already been discussed.

[Chypmunk]

Thanks for the 'nearly but not quite' mention but I'm concentrating on my own monthly themes this year and anyway in HOFs there's almost bound to be stuff nominated that just won't be available to me without venturing into territory I prefer to stay away from so I'll just peruse from the wings like I normally do.

Hopefully you get enough interest.

[Citizen Rules]

While I think doing some type of Decades Comedy Hof is interesting, as it allows us to see how comedy and attitudes have changed over the last 100 years, I'm not keen on this format. I don't want to join 4 comedy Hofs, so I'm passing on this as it is.

Now if Siddon can be flexible, then I'd join if this was done like this:

Each member picks only 1 comedy nom as usual, but they choose from one of these decades (20s,30s,40s,50s,60s,70s,80s,90,2000s,2010s). Once a decade has been chosen by someone it then can't be chose by the next person. If there were 10 people, then there would only be 10 movies, and each decade would be represented. If more than 10 people joined they could choose a second movie from any of the decades once all the decades had one movie represented. That way you get the decades thing, with a good representation of different styles of comedy from different eras. And people can choose which decade and movie they want, and there's only one comedy Hof and so no need of a four part Hof.

[ahwell]

^^I like that idea a lot, and I’m fine with doing either.

[cricket]

I'm sorry, just haven't had much time lately.

[MijaFrost]

^ Yeah, I find myself without much free time as well... I'll keep an eye on what's happening with this HOF though, if I can think of something to nominate I'll join.
And yeah, Citizen Rules idea sounds good too.

[Nathaniel]

I'm interested (Even though you spelt my username wrong :mad:) but obviously the more participation the better. Not much of a Hall of Fame if there's only four of us.

[edarsenal]

If we get like two or three more we should be pretty good.
If not, a small group, depending on everyone's participation, could still work.

[Siddon]

We can also just nominate two films, it's not any of these comedies are Gone with the Wind length.

[edarsenal]

We can also just nominate two films, it's not any of these comedies are Gone with the Wind length.

that could work too. I'll get a second one in later on this evening.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm interested (Even though you spelt my username wrong :mad:) but obviously the more participation the better. Not much of a Hall of Fame if there's only four of us. If you join, I'll join to make it 5:p If an HOF has a really low number of members like only 2,3,4 then it's not worth the time for me to do the photoshop stuff for the HOF Archives thread. That is why I didn't record the results of the Virgin HOF, as there were only 4 members.

So to help out I'll join, even though he misspelled my name too;)

[Citizen Rules]

I just sent my 2 noms, both have shorter runtimes, about the length of 1 newer movie, so I could even do 3 noms:)

[edarsenal]

WELCOME to club HaHa CR!!

[Citizen Rules]

maybe gbgoodies might be interested in this hof?

[edarsenal]

maybe gbgoodies might be interested in this hof?

DEFINITELY!
That would be wonderful!

http://www.jrjgames.com/main/randy/johnny/jo_down.jpg

C'MONNN DOWNNN!!

[AlexWilder]

i'd like to join this HOF , so should i nominate 1 or 2 movies ?

[edarsenal]

Hi Alex!
And WELCOME! :)

If you like, nominate 2 and number them, #1 and #2. That way, if we end up having enough folks and go back to one nomination each, Siddon will use #1. Otherwise, you'll be covered should we stay with the two nominations each.

[gbgoodies]

maybe gbgoodies might be interested in this hof?

DEFINITELY!
That would be wonderful!

http://www.jrjgames.com/main/randy/johnny/jo_down.jpg

C'MONNN DOWNNN!!


I appreciate the invite, and I thought about joining this HoF, (even though I have a bad history with the previous Comedy HoF :lol:), but I decided against it because of the eligible years being 1914-1951. I'm just not up to watching a bunch of silent movies. (My eyes just aren't as good as they used to be, and movies with subtitles have become like a chore for me. :()

If the eligible years had been from around 1930-1950, I probably would have joined. :shrug:

[Siddon]

i'd like to join this HOF , so should i nominate 1 or 2 movies ?


Cool PM me your two nominations

[Siddon]

I appreciate the invite, and I thought about joining this HoF, (even though I have a bad history with the previous Comedy HoF :lol:), but I decided against it because of the eligible years being 1914-1951. I'm just not up to watching a bunch of silent movies. (My eyes just aren't as good as they used to be, and movies with subtitles have become like a chore for me. :()

If the eligible years had been from around 1930-1950, I probably would have joined. :shrug:


Well then I got great news for you because the nominated films come from the years 1930-1950

(1931)
(1933)
(1934)
(1935)
(1936)
(1937)
(1937)
(1950)

[Nathaniel]

1930s Hall of Fame Part 3 from the looks of it.

[Siddon]

And we've got our Reveal!


Sherlock Jr. - our earliest film, Sherlock Jr ranks int he IMDB top 250, this is the only Buster Keaton film to receive a nomination and the second silent film. It's also the shortest film of the group clocking in under an hour.

Monkey Business - Is the first of the Marx brothers nominations a film that registered on the AFI top 100 for comedy. It was one of the more successful film from the brothers.

Trouble in Paradise - is our only Ernest Lubitsch film the film was selected to be perserved by the Library of Congress in 1991. The film also has a Criterion release.

Duck Soup - We got ourselves a film in the proper AFI top 100 as Duck Soup finished at #85. Our second Marx Brothers film it is the second shortest film of the pool running in over just 1 hour.

It's a Gift - WC Fields makes his only entry in this AFI Comedy ranked film from 1934, this ties with Duck Soup as one of the shorter entries but for those that haven't experienced Fields this is a great indroduction to his work.

Top Hat- And here we get a film that is considered the best of Astaire and Rodgers oeuvre. Top Hat received a best picture nomination in 1935 and was the second highest grossing film from that year.

Modern Times - From 1936 one of the last truly great Silent films from Charlie Chaplin. This film ranks in the IMDB top 250, on the AFI top 100 proper list and received a Criterion Collection release. For the only Chaplin nomination this is a great one.

Nothing Sacred and True Confession- Citizen Rules decided to buck the trend by nominating a pair of Carole Lombard films. Ironically enough. David O. Selznick, producer of "Nothing Sacred," was concerned that the release of "True Confession" would harm his film at the box office because both star Carole Lombard as a woman involved in a well-publicized hoax. Nothing Sacred is our only color film and while I haven't seen either one of them they both have strong reviews on IMDB.

Kind Hearts and Coronets did not rank on the AFI list...it ranked on the BFI list and in the top ten. This is a film well known for a tour-de-force performance by Alec Guinness. This film also received a Criterion release.

Harvey is yet another film that registered on the 100 years 100 laughs list (and on the fantasy list). James Stewart received an Oscar nomination for his performance in this film.

The Lavender Hill Mob is our last and latest entry an Oscar winner and film that rank's highly on the BFI list. Guinness who some might not have considered a comic actor managing two noms is going to be very interesting to see how they rank amongst the goliaths that have been nominated today.

Moderator's note -

This looks like a great Hall of Fame while I was a little iffy of going forward with this with such low turnout the actual group looks incredibly solid. My only regret is that we didn't get a Hepburn, Tracy or Grant film in the pool and I almost nominated a Preston Sturges film but after seeing Lubitsch nom I decided to go in a different direction.

[cricket]

That's a really great lineup. The only ones I haven't seen are Nothing Sacred and True Confession. My favorites are It's a Gift, Modern Times, and Kind Hearts and Coronets. Have fun guys:)

[Citizen Rules]

I'm impressed! What a great group of noms, good choices everyone! I wasn't sure what the movie noms would end up being like, but now that I see them, I'm a happy camper:)

Sherlock Jr. - Buster Keaton rules! I've seen this and really enjoyed it's creativity. I'll be happy for a chance to rewatch.

Modern Times I've been wanting to see this forever. I've seen other Chaplin films and really liked them.

Monkey Business & Duck Soup The Marx Brothers are always a fun watch:)...much better than those pesky Ritz Brothers:p...I've seen both of these films but so long ago I don't remember them.

Trouble in Paradise I considered nominating this one. I'm glad to see someone chose it...and I'm glad to see Miriam Hopkins make her third appearance in an HoF:)

It's a Gift I don't think I seen this one, but I have seen at least one W.C. Fields. movie and liked it too.

Top Hat I considered this one as well. I'm a BIG fan of Rogers and Astaire. Glad to rewatch it:)

Nothing Sacred and True Confession I must have spent a couple hours researching movies for this HoF and looked at all kinds of comedies, so I decided to go for my favorite comedian and that's how I choose these two Carole Lombard films. Hope you guys like them.

Kind Hearts and Coronets I've not seen this ever but have wanted to, so glad to see it was chosen.

Harvey Great film and James Stewart is a fav of mine. Looking forward to revisiting this gem.

The Lavender Hill Mob Not sure if I've seen this or not. I guess I'll find out when I watch it. I'm guessing this and Kind Hearts and Coronets are Ed's?

This is looking to be a fun HoF! Maybe someone will still join and nominate a pair of Katherine Hepburn or Cary Grant films.

[Siddon]

The Lavender Hill Mob Not sure if I've seen this or not. I guess I'll find out when I watch it. I'm guessing this and Kind Hearts and Coronets are Ed's?




The noms are under the pictures and those were Nat's picks.

[edarsenal]

D@mmit d@mmit D@MMIT!!!
I just spent the last half hour trying to write out my initial thoughts only to lose it with two films left to comment on!!!

ARGGGG!!! I say with a SLEW of swearing to coincide with it!

So I'll wait till this evening when I can get on my computer and, in the meantime, simply say that this an excellent list of films and I'm VERY excited to watch them all. A large portion I've seen and hyped to see the few I haven't.
SOOO glad this happened!! YAY

[ahwell]

I’m excited to watch all the noms as well. Watched Sherlock Jr today as it was a short watch. Write up soon.

[Yam12]

I thought about joining this but passed since I'm not particularly familiar with this era. The only one of these I've seen is Sherlock Jr and I like that quite a lot.

[Citizen Rules]

I thought about joining this but passed since I'm not particularly familiar with this era...Sounds like a good reason to join:)

[GulfportDoc]

I'm a little confused re the rules. Are we to consider only the films that were listed at the top of the thread? Or are we to submit a film comedy from each era? I've seen all the ones listed, but to my taste there are a few that I'd substitute.

Thanks,
~Doc

[Citizen Rules]

I'm a little confused re the rules. Are we to consider only the films that were listed at the top of the thread? Or are we to submit a film comedy from each era? I've seen all the ones listed, but to my taste there are a few that I'd substitute.

Thanks,
~DocIf you joined you would choose two comedies of any year as long as they were made between 1914-1951. But you couldn't choose the movies that the other members of this HoF have already chosen.

In a nutshell if you joined, you'd watch all the movies and write your thoughts on each film. Then you send a ranked voting list to Siddon who is the host.

The full rules are on the 1st post in this thread, click rules Show
to see them. We've already started so it's up to Siddon if any more can join...but it's OK with me.:p

[AlexWilder]

it looks like a solid line-up i love it ! and i love the fact that i haven't seen much from the bunch

so from the ones ive seen there is my two nominations sherlock jr. and trouble in paradise i really love those two and i can easily see myself putting them into my top 100 movies of all time (even though i can't possibly make a list of my favorite movies, i tried it so many times but its really hard :| )

i've also seen Modern Times and Kind Hearts and Coronets and i'm excited to revisit them..

i didn't see any of the other movies even though most of them has been in my watchlist for a while now so this is a great opportunity to watch them :D

[edarsenal]

I thought about joining this but passed since I'm not particularly familiar with this era. The only one of these I've seen is Sherlock Jr and I like that quite a lot.

well, this is a pretty group of films from that era so, if ya feel like it, check out ones that may interest you.

[Siddon]

I'm a little confused re the rules. Are we to consider only the films that were listed at the top of the thread? Or are we to submit a film comedy from each era? I've seen all the ones listed, but to my taste there are a few that I'd substitute.

Thanks,
~Doc


If you wish to join up you can either PM one or two noms(it's up to you) or if you just want to watch the 12 films and vote at the end that's fine with me as well. As long as you post a review after watching each film I'll count it.



This is about as good an introduction to the sub genre(s) that you are going to get.



This goes for
Yam12 cricket gbgoodies MijaFrost CosmicRunaway

[ahwell]

Sherlock, Jr.

This was short and sweet, I really liked it! It wasn't laugh out loud "funny," so to speak, but it was so charming and light hearted that I couldn't help not loving it. Especially the "movie within a movie" sequence, which took up much of the actual film. I loved all the stunts Keaton does, and his acting is actually quite good too. My favorite scene was probably the pool scene, which kind of reminded me of a template for what Hitchcock would say and do years later: "A bomb is under the table, and it explodes: That is surprise. The bomb is under the table but it does not explode: That is suspense." In that pool scene, it's obviously meant for comedic effect, and there's nothing too tense or worked up about it, but it's also pretty cool how it's almost a prototype of what a lot of great filmmakers would do with more serious motives later. A good movie that I thoroughly enjoyed, it's probably my favorite Keaton. But, for some of the other acting, and the actual "comedy" factor, it gets a few points off.

4

[edarsenal]

Alright, Take Two:

Sherlock Jr.- This and The General is considered THE Buster Keaton films and since I have YET to see this one, here is my chance.

Monkey Business - This was my first nomination and with so many options it was going to be a Marx Brothers film. And while my ultimate favorite is Night at the Opera I decided to go with antics at sea.

Trouble in Paradise - Found out about this one in the 30s Countdown and loved it. It would have been a serious contender for my List for that Countdown if I had known about it previously.

Duck Soup - Another great Marx Brothers film. No need to say more.

It's a Gift - W C Fields is one of several old-time comedians I grew up with as a kid and I had been very tempted to go with him and Mae West in My Little Chickadee, so I'm pretty happy to see this make it into the HoF.

Top Hat- One of the MUST SEE films I never seem to get around to and I've had a terrible itch to since our Musical HoF. So, YAY

Modern Times - I ADORE Chaplin! The Kid was high on my second nomination list.

Nothing Sacred and True Confession- Carole Lombard is great. Glad to see her here. For the life of me, I don't know if I've seen this or not.

Kind Hearts and Coronets Been FAR too long since I've seen this. Guinness is fantastic as every-single-person-in-the-family.

Harvey Once I saw that this was on the border of the parameters I KNEW this had to be part of this. So, here we go!

The Lavender Hill Mob I may or may not have seen this quite some time ago. Either way should be great to see.

Moderator's note -

This looks like a great Hall of Fame while I was a little iffy of going forward with this with such low turnout the actual group looks incredibly solid. My only regret is that we didn't get a Hepburn, Tracy or Grant film in the pool and I almost nominated a Preston Sturges film but after seeing Lubitsch nom I decided to go in a different direction.
I didn't go with Grant or a movie like The Libeled Lady simply because I thought somebody else would already have it covered. lol


Now, there's a couple of these, like Harvey and the two Marx Brothers that I've seen countless times and could easily write a review on, but -- screw that, I'm watching them again!

[Siddon]

I didn't go with Grant or a movie like The Libeled Lady simply because I thought somebody else would already have it covered. lol


Now, there's a couple of these, like Harvey and the two Marx Brothers that I've seen countless times and could easily write a review on, but -- screw that, I'm watching them again!


I was also thinking of picking The Libeled Lady, this was my final ten so to speak.

Adams Rib
The Bank Dick
The Gay Divorcee
Here Comes Mr Jordan
The Libeled Lady
Road to Morocco
Ruggles of Red Gap
Sullivan's Travels

Once I received the double Guinness noms I decided not to go with Ruggles of Red Gap or Here Comes Mr Jordan

[edarsenal]

I was also thinking of picking The Libeled Lady, this was my final ten so to speak.

Adams Rib
The Bank Dick
The Gay Divorcee
Here Comes Mr Jordan
The Libeled Lady
Road to Morocco
Ruggles of Red Gap
Sullivan's Travels

Once I received the double Guinness noms I decided not to go with Ruggles of Red Gap or Here Comes Mr Jordan
Road To Morocco was on my short list as well and Sullivan's Travels was tempting as a Blind Grab since I still haven't seen this one.

[CosmicRunaway]

My only regret is that we didn't get a Hepburn, Tracy or Grant film in the pool
Maybe someone will still join and nominate a pair of Katherine Hepburn or Cary Grant films.
I didn't go with Grant or a movie like The Libeled Lady simply because I thought somebody else would already have it covered. lol
If I joined, I probably would've nominated something with Cary Grant, but as I mentioned earlier in the thread, my favourites have already been in previous Hall of Fames, and I didn't want to retread old ground.

or if you just want to watch the 12 films and vote at the end that's fine with me as well. As long as you post a review after watching each film I'll count it.
I might consider this. I think I've only seen 2 of the nominations, so I could definitely do with some more exposure to comedies from this time period. :lol:

[GulfportDoc]

If you wish to join up you can either PM one or two noms(it's up to you) or if you just want to watch the 12 films and vote at the end that's fine with me as well. As long as you post a review after watching each film I'll count it.

This is about as good an introduction to the sub genre(s) that you are going to get.

This goes for
@Yam12 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95772) @cricket (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=68505) @gbgoodies (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84622) @MijaFrost (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100042) @CosmicRunaway (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=90868)
Thanks, Siddon. Should we go ahead and start posting our mini-reviews of the nominations right away?

~Doc

[Siddon]

Thanks, Siddon. Should we go ahead and start posting our mini-reviews of the nominations right away?

~Doc


By all means...so you're just going to review and vote you don't have anything to nominate?

[Citizen Rules]

I seriously considered Sullivan's Travels, Joel McCrea is real good it and so is Veronica Lake:)

[Siddon]

I seriously considered Sullivan's Travels, Joel McCrea is real good it and so is Veronica Lake:)


Well it's not too late to switch I'm both having difficulty finding True Confession and I'm a little worried about both of your films finishing 11th and 12th. Not that you picked bad films but I think the bar is exceptionally high.

[Citizen Rules]

Well it's not too late to switch I'm both having difficulty finding True Confession and I'm a little worried about both of your films finishing 11th and 12th. Not that you picked bad films but I think the bar is exceptionally high. No, I don't want to switch.

If they come in last, then that's fine. I know they are both excellent comedies and great examples of screwball comedy.

I can find you links to both of my noms. I'm in Arizona right now and don't have access to my computer, but when I get home in a few days I'll PM you a link.

[GulfportDoc]

By all means...so you're just going to review and vote you don't have anything to nominate?
Thanks, Siddon. I'll p.m. the nominations, then post some comments about Sherlock, Jr.

~Doc

[GulfportDoc]

Sherlock, Jr. (1924)

I've always been a much bigger fan of Buster Keaton's than I have been of Chaplin's or Lloyd's. Keaton himself stated that he thought Stan Laurel was the funniest.

Not having seen Sherlock, Jr. since the days when I watched many silent films (there used to be a silent movie theater on Fairfax in West Hollywood), some of the gags were still in vague memory; but happily the full film is available on YouTube. Cut down by Keaton from a full feature, it plays only approx. 45 minutes, so it's more like a longer short.

But it's unmistakable why Keaton was the funny gag and pratfall master. There are about 6-8 major stunning gags in the short film. The bicycle sequence, where he rides on the handlebars of a bicycle unknowingly after the driver falls off-- that alone sets up several memorable gags.

Most of his stunts were very dangerous, and in the early days the characters are actually doing what they are shown doing. He reportedly fractured his neck during the scene where gushing water from a water tower re-supplier blows him off the train onto the railroad track rail.

The other fascinating trick was probably the first use of a live actor physically inserting himself into a film being shown in a theater. Woody Allen, who was surely familiar with Keaton's film, used this trick to great effect in his Purple Rose of Cairo.

This is an inventive, hilarious, and touching film that anyone might find fascinating.

~Doc

[gbgoodies]

Well then I got great news for you because the nominated films come from the years 1930-1950

(1931)
(1933)
(1934)
(1935)
(1936)
(1937)
(1937)
(1950)

Thanks for the info. I was considering joining, but after seeing the reveal below, I decided to sit this one out. I've seen several of the movies that were nominated, but I might watch a few of the ones that I haven't seen yet.

I love The Marx Brothers, so I'm rooting for them to do well in this HoF, but there's another movie nominated that's a favorite of mine, so I hope it wins.


And we've got our Reveal!


Sherlock Jr. - our earliest film, Sherlock Jr ranks int he IMDB top 250, this is the only Buster Keaton film to receive a nomination and the second silent film. It's also the shortest film of the group clocking in under an hour.

Monkey Business - Is the first of the Marx brothers nominations a film that registered on the AFI top 100 for comedy. It was one of the more successful film from the brothers.

Trouble in Paradise - is our only Ernest Lubitsch film the film was selected to be perserved by the Library of Congress in 1991. The film also has a Criterion release.

Duck Soup - We got ourselves a film in the proper AFI top 100 as Duck Soup finished at #85. Our second Marx Brothers film it is the second shortest film of the pool running in over just 1 hour.

It's a Gift - WC Fields makes his only entry in this AFI Comedy ranked film from 1934, this ties with Duck Soup as one of the shorter entries but for those that haven't experienced Fields this is a great indroduction to his work.

Top Hat- And here we get a film that is considered the best of Astaire and Rodgers oeuvre. Top Hat received a best picture nomination in 1935 and was the second highest grossing film from that year.

Modern Times - From 1936 one of the last truly great Silent films from Charlie Chaplin. This film ranks in the IMDB top 250, on the AFI top 100 proper list and received a Criterion Collection release. For the only Chaplin nomination this is a great one.

Nothing Sacred and True Confession- Citizen Rules decided to buck the trend by nominating a pair of Carole Lombard films. Ironically enough. David O. Selznick, producer of "Nothing Sacred," was concerned that the release of "True Confession" would harm his film at the box office because both star Carole Lombard as a woman involved in a well-publicized hoax. Nothing Sacred is our only color film and while I haven't seen either one of them they both have strong reviews on IMDB.

Kind Hearts and Coronets did not rank on the AFI list...it ranked on the BFI list and in the top ten. This is a film well known for a tour-de-force performance by Alec Guinness. This film also received a Criterion release.

Harvey is yet another film that registered on the 100 years 100 laughs list (and on the fantasy list). James Stewart received an Oscar nomination for his performance in this film.

The Lavender Hill Mob is our last and latest entry an Oscar winner and film that rank's highly on the BFI list. Guinness who some might not have considered a comic actor managing two noms is going to be very interesting to see how they rank amongst the goliaths that have been nominated today.

Moderator's note -

This looks like a great Hall of Fame while I was a little iffy of going forward with this with such low turnout the actual group looks incredibly solid. My only regret is that we didn't get a Hepburn, Tracy or Grant film in the pool and I almost nominated a Preston Sturges film but after seeing Lubitsch nom I decided to go in a different direction.


I was considering nominating a Hepburn/Tracy movie (Adam's Rib), and/or a Cary Grant movie if I had joined.

[Nathaniel]

High quality picks here 👍

I've seen 8. Monkey Business and It's a Gift are on my watchlist and I've not seen the two Lombards that CR nominated but I tend to like her films so I'm looking forward to them.

I'll follow ahwell and GulfportDoc and get started this weekend with Sherlock Jr.

[GulfportDoc]

Monkey Business (1931)

This was the Marx Brothers' third film, and the first one they did in Hollywood. They did 13 films with 3 or 4 of the brothers, and of those, 7 or 8 are generally regarded as their most important. I think it's the zaniest of them all. It had no plot, the brothers had no names, and it was gag after gag after gag.

Some of the famous routines: they each impersonate Maurice Chevalier-- even Harpo, who did it mimed over a record. The bit in the Captain's cabin is hilarious, as is Harpo playing in a Punch & Judy show to hide from his pursuers.

But my favorite line is when Groucho says, "He has so much money he has all the women he can shake a stick at...... if that's your idea of a good time." The censors really went over this film (and others) with a fine toothed comb, but they missed a couple of great double entendres.

Not my favorite MB film, but a great one.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

And with GulfportDoc we now have our Grant fix with His Girl Friday and, one I've seen countless times, Arsenic and Old Lace. Both are ideal representations of this specific time frame of films.

While I will still be rewatching both, I honestly don't think I can write a better review or have a different view of a movie I've seen, over and over and over and over with utter delight each and every time.
So.
I'll post my review from the first 40s HoF with every intention of grabbing the opportunity to rewatch this again during this HoF. Just for the joy of it.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b2/f0/fd/b2f0fd3e9cfb19763d0ecf2175d798b7.jpg

Arsenic & Old Lace This movie has always been a huge favorite of mine since I was a kid, so my review will be on the rather bias side :)
I have always enjoyed Capra, he has a very endearing love for the eccentric and what we now call "feel good" movies. He pampers his lunatics with safe places and understanding people so that they may pursue their craziness in complete happiness. It is the sane and rational that suffer in his world and this is an excellent example of that.
From the utterly sweet aunts who poison lonely old men with arsenic-tinged elderberry wine to their nephew "Teddy" who fully believes he's former president Theodore Roosevelt, they are given a kind haven to thrive in. Even the psychotic nephew Jonathan who's inept doctor - played wonderfully by Peter Lorre - who has given him a face that looks like Boris Karloff, has a place in Capra's zany world.
The one individual who has it the hardest is the one who WILL NOT abide his family's lunacy; Cary Grant. The poor fool.
This movie is charming, delightful, amusing and always brings a smile to my face and my heart. Reminding me of the sagely observation by Willy Wonka. "A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men."
Amen.

[CosmicRunaway]

And with @GulfportDoc (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=96919) we now have our Grant fix with His Girl Friday and, one I've seen countless times, Arsenic and Old Lace. Both are ideal representations of this specific time frame of films.
Those were the first two Grant films that came to my mind actually. GulfportDoc has great taste. :up:

I ranked His Girl Friday #1 in the second 40s HoF. I really loved it. Even though I found it incredibly entertaining (if a little long), Arsenic and Old Lace was towards the bottom of my list in part one, but that HoF had a lot of quality nominations and it easily would've been higher under ordinary circumstances.

[edarsenal]

Those were the first two Grant films that came to my mind actually. GulfportDoc has great taste. :up:

I ranked His Girl Friday #1 in the second 40s HoF. I really loved it. Even though I found it incredibly entertaining (if a little long), Arsenic and Old Lace was towards the bottom of my list in part one, but that HoF had a lot of quality nominations and it easily would've been higher under ordinary circumstances.

I agree Gulf comes up with good noms on the couple he's been in.

Both of these were strong contenders for me too but I was trying to stay clear of past noms, though Ideally, this would be the HoF for them. So, pretty happy Gulf joined and nominated them both.
I had voted Arsenic and Old Lace at #2 even with the incredible list of other movies simply because of the long-running love I've had for it. And it was His Girl Friday that I had at #8 out of 11 ONLY because of the amazing films in that one as well.

Curious to see where they land in this HoF and I must say, cannot, for the life of me, make a guess at the top echelon since there is a solid list with a great spread going on.

[ahwell]

Monkey Business

I wasn't a huge fan of this one. It just seemed like Duck Soup, but everything was turned down a couple notches. It was less funny, the characters were less interesting, the visuals lest exciting, and there was really no plot. I think my biggest beef with it was that there was not a single line that was very funny. Sherlock, Jr. had me smiling or chuckling in a couple of scenes, but this - I didn't really feel anything. I think this film is probably historically important, as are many of the Marx Brothers films, for understanding what comedy started out as. But today, it's not very enjoyable.

2.5

[gbgoodies]

And with GulfportDoc we now have our Grant fix with His Girl Friday and, one I've seen countless times, Arsenic and Old Lace. Both are ideal representations of this specific time frame of films.

While I will still be rewatching both, I honestly don't think I can write a better review or have a different view of a movie I've seen, over and over and over and over with utter delight each and every time.
So.
I'll post my review from the first 40s HoF with every intention of grabbing the opportunity to rewatch this again during this HoF. Just for the joy of it.


His Girl Friday and Arsenic and Old Lace are two of my favorite Cary Grant movies, and (as some of you already know), Arsenic and Old Lace is one of my all-time favorite movies. I nominated it in a previous HoF, and as I recall, it didn't do well due to some very tough competition. I hope it does a lot better in this HoF.

[Citizen Rules]

Is there a deadline?

[Siddon]

Is there a deadline?


New Rule
You must have 1 write-up done in the first 2 weeks
You must have 2 write-ups done in the first month
You must have 4 write-ups done in the first 6 weeks



We'll see after that with only 6 people this might be done in a month

[Citizen Rules]

New Rule
You must have 1 write-up done in the first 2 weeks
You must have 2 write-ups done in the first month
You must have 4 write-ups done in the first 6 weeks

We'll see after that with only 6 people this might be done in a month No worries for me, I can finish early. I have all the noms lined up and should start watching real soon.

I just wanted to know so I could fill out the deadline info here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1836289#post1836289) But not a problem, I'll just leave it like it is for now.

[AlexWilder]

Sherlock Jr. (1924)

http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Keaton,%20Buster/Annex/Annex%20-%20Keaton,%20Buster%20(Sherlock%20Jr.)_03.jpg

i've always loved buster keaton from the first time i've ever saw him, maybe even more than charlie chaplin, i mean yes charlie's movies can be deeper and emotional and even with more elaborate script but i find buster's movies more charming and more creative especially when it comes to gags and stunts.

sherlock jr. is without a doubt my favorite buster keaton movie, it's funny charming and clever in its construction. the story is very simple especially if we remove the film inside the film, it's the oldest story ever ! a man loves a woman and have a competition with another man to win her , our man wants to be a detective but he fails to prove that he is a good one and loses the girl with it , then comes the film inside the film where he does everything to prove himself as a detective and win her over, what he did in that dream sequence is like all what he wanted to do and ironically when he won in the dream he did it without doing a thing in the real life.

buster keaton is known for the amazing and dangerous stunts that he does by himself, and in sherlock jr. he took it to another level especially in the chase scene, i also love the pool scene, and the last scene when he imitates the actor in the movie.

[ahwell]

Trouble in Paradise

What a fun, elegant, and ultimately bittersweet comedy! It was really well done, and I liked the characters and the settings in Europe. The screenplay was such fun, many times very funny, or just a playful, sexual, kind of humor that you don't really see a lot in early comedy. I especially enjoyed the relationships between the three main characters, and the simmering sexual tensions arising in them all that comes to a final climax (which I wasn't a huge fan of, but the last scene was great). Those moments of silence, when we're left seeing one or two of the characters contemplate their situation, are deceptively shallow, and I think this movie has a lot to say about the sexual desires even the "best" of us sometimes have, and what happens if we let it get out of hand.

4

[edarsenal]

great review ahwell, really looking forward to re-seeing Trouble In Paradise

[Siddon]

https://www.a2pcinema.com/profaneangel/filmography/stills/trueconfession/4.JPG


True Confession is a good not nesicary great comedy from the 1930's. It tells the story of a wife who cannot tell the truth and a Husband who cannot lie. The premise is dynamite and the first act is amazing almost all the early comic set pieces work really well. Lombard shines in the first act as a clever(ish) woman to her husbands honest(ish) tendencies.


The problem with the film is the male lead Fred MacMurray isn't Jimmy Stewart or Spencer Tracy it's very difficult to portray a character that is honest and yet still drives the plot. MacMurray doesn't ever feel like an honest person just a passive aggressive one. Lombard is also very good at the start of the film but her intelligence takes a huge nose dive after a murder and she becomes cartoonish on the borderline of insane.


John Barrymore is the third lead and while he's very good at the beginning as a mysterious figure his role in the third act sinks the film for me. The entire third act of the story felt completely extraneous and was a bit of a chore to get through. I can understand why Citizen Rules nominated this film, when the screen play doesn't have Carole Lombard playing an idiot she's very good.


2

[Citizen Rules]

True Confession....rating_2

Your rating is 'curious', and I'll tell you why....Twice now as a host you've tried to influence me to change my nom before the HoF ever even started.

You did that in the 18th HoF with my nom Abandon Ship! and you did it again here with True Confession. Both times you stated the 'bar was high' implying my nom wasn't good enough for the HoF.

In the 18th you even posted the wrong movie,Valley of the Dolls, as my nom. At the time I assumed it was an honest mistake on your part. But now as you've tried to get me to change my nom again in this HOF....I'm starting to see a pattern and think you might have intentionally posted the wrong nom for me in the 18th.

It's not the duty of a host to try and influence a member to change their nom, so as to suit the host's taste. That's not something a host should be doing.

This all makes me think your rating of my nom True Confession is more about you being unhappy that you couldn't talk me into changing my nom.....If it's an honest rating, then it's fine.

[AlexWilder]

i've never heard of the movie true confession so i don't know if its good or not, but honestly i prefer if someone nominate an obscure or a not so good movie with some interesting story or aspects than nominating a well known movie that everyone has seen , because i've joined this HoF to discover movies that i've never heard of and talk about them, that's why i like this lineup because it's a perfect mix of well known and unknown movies.

[ahwell]

Having trouble finding It's a Gift... anyone have a link?

[Citizen Rules]

Having trouble finding It's a Gift... anyone have a link? I think I have one, I'll PM you.

[Siddon]

Your rating is 'curious', and I'll tell you why....Twice now as a host you've tried to influence me to change my nom before the HoF ever even started.


Yeah because I want your films to do better, you're spending time doing this Hall and I can imagine it being soul crushing to have your films come in near to last. I don't want you to stop participating.


You did that in the 18th HoF with my nom Abandon Ship! and you did it again here with True Confession. Both times you stated the 'bar was high' implying my nom wasn't good enough for the HoF.


Yes because everyone else nominated classics and you didn't.


In the 18th you even posted the wrong movie,Valley of the Dolls, as my nom. At the time I assumed it was an honest mistake on your part. But now as you've tried to get me to change my nom again in this HOF....I'm starting to see a pattern and think you might have intentionally posted the wrong nom for me in the 18th.


I told you I wanted you to nominate Valley of the Dolls because I thought it would do better based on the nom's(that I saw and you didn't) and because I actually blind bought the film and was looking for an excuse to watch it. Also I didn't pull the film randomly out of thin air this was the last post you pm'd me


Citizen Rules OK, maybe I should have went with my first choice. I'm pretty sure if I nominated Valley of the Dolls it would come in near last.


It's not the duty of a host to try and influence a member to change their nom, so as to suit the host's taste. That's not something a host should be doing.



Well you were the one who pushed me into hosting, unless you forgot that. Also I would remind you the last Hall of Fame I suggested a rule to give people the option for feedback to their noms so they wouldn't have their feelings hurt. I have always believed that more information is better than less information.



This all makes me think your rating of my nom True Confession is more about you being unhappy that you couldn't talk me into changing my nom.....If it's an honest rating, then it's fine.


I think it's more about you picking average films Waterloo Bridge, Bachelor Mother, Abandon Ship, The Dressmaker and now True Confession are just really all mediocre. I would be very surprised if any other film comes in last.

[edarsenal]

just finished Trouble in Paradise, will have a review up sometime Saturday evening.

[CosmicRunaway]

Yes because everyone else nominated classics and you didn't.
If I was in a Hall of Fame where everyone nominated classic films, I'd probably be a little disappointed. I like the HoFs because they've exposed me to films I haven't heard of, or otherwise wouldn't have watched. In my opinion, having only well-known, critically accepted films makes things boring.

I think it's more about you picking average films Waterloo Bridge, Bachelor Mother, Abandon Ship, The Dressmaker and now True Confession are just really all mediocre.
I just wanted to point out that opinions on film are quite subjective. People might love or hate films that you see as just average, or think that films you find amazing are quite bland. I quite liked Bachelor Mother and The Dressmaker, for example, and they both placed high on my lists.

But even if everyone did have relatively the same opinion on every film, not everything can be a Citizen Cane or Seven Samurai, but that doesn't mean that all those other films that aren't considered masterpieces don't still have value. More nominations are going to place in the middle of the pack than at the top anyway, so where's the harm in nominating films that you think are interesting, but aren't necessarily amazing works of art?

I think a lot of us nominate films we enjoy to share them with others, and not necessarily because we want said film to win. Yes it's nice when your nomination does well, but that's more of a bonus.

[Siddon]

If I was in a Hall of Fame where everyone nominated classic films, I'd probably be a little disappointed. I like the HoFs because they've exposed me to films I haven't heard of, or otherwise wouldn't have watched. In my opinion, having only well-known, critically accepted films makes things boring.

It's not the hall of good it's the hall of fame


I just wanted to point out that opinions on film are quite subjective. People might love or hate films that you see as just average, or think that films you find amazing are quite bland. I quite liked Bachelor Mother and The Dressmaker, for example, and they both placed high on my lists.

I believe I ranked Bachelor Mother at #3 or #4 that was one of the better noms.


But even if everyone did have relatively the same opinion on every film, not everything can be a Citizen Cane or Seven Samurai, but that doesn't mean that all those other films that aren't considered masterpieces don't still have value. More nominations are going to place in the middle of the pack than at the top anyway, so where's the harm in nominating films that you think are interesting, but aren't necessarily amazing works of art?

Did you seriously misspell Citizen Kane? :D Perhaps you need to rewatch it a few more times. The key word in this statement is opinion because we aren't just watching the films but we also have to discuss them. Watching a film like True Confession and finding something to talk about that film is difficult. Actually I did leave out the big reason I hated the film because of spoilers if you and Citizen Rules want to know what hated about the film the most...

The major plot point is that this wealthy gentlemen is killed. We get the trial for the murder and John Barrymore hanging around the periphery of the story. Well we get the reveal the killer was ...his brother in law, a character that is only referenced and guess what he's already dead. Don't worry honey you didn't do it some guy did it. Also how is this going to affect other people with watching this film if they go into it knowing that the killer reveal is just so breathtakingly stupid.And I said I did like the first act it was just the subsequent two acts that I took issue with.


I think a lot of us nominate films we enjoy to share them with others, and not necessarily because we want said film to win. Yes it's nice when your nomination does well, but that's more of a bonus.

What isn't a bonus is when you have to argue with someone because they think their is some grand conspiracy against them.

[CosmicRunaway]

It's not the hall of good it's the hall of fame
I always thought the idea of the title was to give recognition to films, regardless as to whether or not they were previously well-known.

Though I'd probably like a Hall of Good more, since I'd prefer the films I watch to be enjoyable, rather than only watching things that are popular. Some things are even famous for being terrible, so name recognition doesn't really mean much.

Did you seriously misspell Citizen Kane? :D
I'd blame auto-correct, but that was all me. :facepalm:

What isn't a bonus is when you have to argue with someone because they think their is some grand conspiracy against them.
The way I read it, your response to CR seemed like you were calling him out for the films he's nominated in the past, rather than saying his theory was just a coincidence. Though maybe I got the tone wrong, since that's sometimes a hard thing to grasp through text alone.

[Citizen Rules]

I don't want to argue as I've learned that when two people argue a brick wall goes up and then the exchange of constructive ideas becomes difficult...And yes it can be hard to interpret another person's words on the internet, as we all tend to interpret what we read based on our own self view.

So I guess what I'm saying is...I'm not mad, though it does make me uncomfortable to have it suggested by the host that I should change my noms as they might not be good enough. I really put a lot of effort into deciding what movie I want to share with my fellow members. Winning an HoF is not on my mind. I try to select films I truly believe in and think are special enough for consideration for the HoF.

Yeah because I want your films to do better, you're spending time doing this Hall and I can imagine it being soul crushing to have your films come in near to last. I don't want you to stop participating.That's nice of you to say, thank you. I won't stop participating as I might be addicted to HoFs:p I love movies and I love the opportunity an HoF affords me to have conversation, and to experience films that otherwise I'd never watch. That's all a good thing...But don't worry, I never get my 'soul crushed' if my film does poorly. Though I can get disillusioned at times, like I image everyone can.

Well you were the one who pushed me into hosting, unless you forgot that. Sorry if you felt that way, I certainly didn't intend to make you uncomfortable. My only intention by suggesting you as a host of the 18th was to show respect and to show I had faith in you as you had joined several recent Hofs and been a solid member.

[cricket]

I haven't had much time lately so I've miss a couple of HoFs. The clincher in not taking a chance on this one was figuring I would have already seen all or most. Sure enough, the only movies I haven't seen are the two CR noms. If I had joined, those would have been the two I'd be most excited for. Of course, that doesn't mean they wouldn't have ended up at the bottom of my list:D

[edarsenal]

I'm curious cricket, if you HAD joined, what films would you have nominated?

[edarsenal]

http://obscurehollywood.net/art/trouble-in-paradise-1932.jpg



Trouble in Paradise

Lily Vautier: "Well, I'll leave you alone with that lady. But if you behave like a gentleman, I'll break your neck."


SPOILERS


While I have scarcely brushed the tip of the iceberg of films by Ernst Lubitsch, I have, I believe, have had the pleasure and honor of enjoying some of his greats; The Shop Around the Corner, Heaven Can Wait, To Be or Not To Be, Ninotchka, Angel, along with this film. Each of which were serious contenders, and, if I had remembered A Royal Scandal (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038040/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_3) which he originally directed, grew too ill and had Otto Preminger to fill in, there is every likely hood I would have traded out my secondary nom, Harvery, for it. Simply because it is rather unknown and one I'd have happily introduced to this HoF.

Now, I am, as previously mentioned, VERY happy to watch this delightful and charming gem that I discovered during the 30s Countdown.
The three leading roles of Kay Francis, Herbert Marshall and Miriam Hopkins are ideal and play beautifully with one another and have a great secondary list of players to support them with C. Aubrey Smith, Charles Ruggles and Edward Everett Horton.

Two thieves, who's introduction to their love affair is a highlight of the opening of the film, have set their eyes on a rich widow and her money after "collecting" her very expensive purse. A reward that is four times what they would get propels them into finding the possibility of even greater fortune to be had is the basis of the, soon to be, love triangle and the juggling of keeping their covert intentions, just that.

All of this is paced and filmed with some adorable, clever cinematography. Using shadows, mirrors and the like to frame and attenuate scenarios and bringing a brisk pace to necessary moments with clever little "yes and no" montages.
The timing of all involved is quite excellent and the dialogue is witty, charming, bubbling with innuendo and delivered with absolute style. Which, from my little experience of Lubitsch, appears to me as a beautiful trademark of his work.

Very much deserving of one of my BRAVOs, AlexWilder!

[Citizen Rules]

Citizen Rules: In the 18th you even posted the wrong movie,Valley of the Dolls, as my nom. At the time I assumed it was an honest mistake on your part. But now as you've tried to get me to change my nom again in this HOF....I'm starting to see a pattern and think you might have intentionally posted the wrong nom for me in the 18th. I told you I wanted you to nominate Valley of the Dolls because I thought it would do better based on the nom's(that I saw and you didn't) and because I actually blind bought the film and was looking for an excuse to watch it. Also I didn't pull the film randomly out of thin air this was the last post you pm'd me:

OK, maybe I should have went with my first choice. I'm pretty sure if I nominated Valley of the Dolls it would come in near last. I got to know something, did you post Valley of the Dolls as my nom in the 18th as a favor to me because you believed it would do better than the nom I had chose Abandon Ship?

[cricket]

I'm curious cricket, if you HAD joined, what films would you have nominated?

I didn't even get to the point of thinking about it but The Bank Dick probably would have been one.

[ahwell]

Finished Modern Times, write-up soon.

[Siddon]

I got to know something, did you post Valley of the Dolls as my nom in the 18th as a favor to me because you believed it would do better than the nom I had chose Abandon Ship?


The "favor" was I thought to validate your first choice of Valley of the Dolls. Now your nom still needs two more reviews and everything is so tight that could have a big swing but I do believe Dolls would have done better.

[Citizen Rules]

The "favor" was I thought to validate your first choice of Valley of the Dolls. Now your nom still needs two more reviews and everything is so tight that could have a big swing but I do believe Dolls would have done better.So on your own you decided to chose a film for me that I had previously mentioned that I'd considered and also mentioned I'd discarded it as my nom. Is that what you're saying you did?

[Siddon]

So on your own you decided to chose a film for me that I had previously mentioned that I'd considered and also mentioned I'd discarded it as my nom. Is that what you're saying you did?


No your pm felt to me like a girl asking if she looked fat in her jeans, and that you were looking for reassurance. That's what I read about what you told me. We'll talk about it when all the ballots come in and you can see where I ranked your film.

[GulfportDoc]

I didn't even get to the point of thinking about it but The Bank Dick probably would have been one.
Good choice. Please reconsider joining us, Cricket. This is a very large category, and I suspect that we could use some more participants. Don't know when the OP is closing the group.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

I didn't even get to the point of thinking about it but The Bank Dick probably would have been one.

WC Fields! Good Call!!

"I never drink water. Fish fornicate in it."

[AlexWilder]

Monkey Business (1931)

this is the second marx brothers movie that i see with night at the opera (that i liked) , and i must say i was disappointed !
from the beginning the movie failed to grab my attention, i mean it has it moments, i laughed maybe once or twice but for most of the time i was just watching with a poker face not even smiling and waiting for the movie to end
i hope that i'll find duck soup better...

[edarsenal]

http://deeperintomovies.net/journal/image16/monkeybiz2.jpg


The Marx Brothers; Monkey Business

Groucho: How about you and I passing out on the veranda; or would you rather pass out here?

Woman at Party: Sir, you have the advantage of me.

Groucho: Not yet I haven't, but wait till I get you outside.


The epitome of screwball, zany humor, The Marx Brothers' antics have been a treasure throughout my life, and, during my youth, an inspiration for Class Clowning and all out trouble-making/smart-mouthing. Not to mention trouble mouthing and making smart. But that's a different matter all together.

With almost no plot except the boys stowing away on a boat and causing utter havoc, with chase scene after chase scene (along with several skirt chasing's -- literally), plenty of wise-cracking, double-entendres, a heaping dose of belligerent behavior, with a little piano playing and harp tossed in for good measure.
Making the short and long of it.

While I was tempted to go with my ultimate favorite, A Night at the Opera, I was torn between this and Room Service.
Room Service won and got out when the getting was good.

I'm also tempted to write a detailed, serious review, but how could I dare such an atrocity regarding a comedic troupe that treats irreverence with such reverence?

But enough temptation. How 'bout some satisfaction?
I can't, her husband hasn't left town yet.

[ahwell]

Modern Times
This is probably my favorite Chaplin film, and probably my favorite silent film too. It's so funny, but a little bit depressing, so wild, but sweet and innocent too. Chaplin is at his best with acting and stunts in this movie too, with scenes like the roller skating, dancing in the restaurant, and we get to see him get high and drunk too! (of course to no choice of his own). :) And inside this fun bundle of adventures, we get the truth that life is hard, and it's best to just get on with it.

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[Citizen Rules]

No your pm felt to me like a girl asking if she looked fat in her jeans, and that you were looking for reassurance. That's what I read about what you told me. We'll talk about it when all the ballots come in and you can see where I ranked your film.Now you're being an ass! By being insulting. I'm not surprised at your behavior as you made fun of Cosmic's spelling earlier too, which is not cool.



I sent you a PM at the very start of the 18th HoF that said clearly said:
My nom for the 18th is:

Abandoned Ship (1957)
also known as Seven Waves Away and as Seven Days From Now

(and we had some nice PM convos back and forth, and I mentioned I had also considered Valley of the Dolls in a later PM, making small talk. But I NEVER said I wanted you to change it! I never hinted at it, that's not me and anybody who knows me at MoFo knows I don't operate that way.

I can now see by your piss poor behavior that you deliberately changed my nom to Valley of the Dolls because YOU wanted to watch it...as you had blind bought the DVD and never had the chance to watch it (you posted that)...That my friend is utter Bull Sh**. You changed my nom deliberately without my permission to suit your needs!

[ahwell]

Eh... I'm going to stay out of this one :eek:

[ahwell]

I'll also need a link for True Confession, if anyone has one.

[AlexWilder]

I'll also need a link for True Confession, if anyone has one.

i'll PM you the link

[Siddon]

Now you're being an ass! By being insulting. I'm not surprised at your behavior as you made fun of Cosmic's spelling earlier too, which is not cool.


You have now accused me of lying, being an ass, insulting other people, taking away your choices, and being uncool.


I sent you a PM at the very start of the 18th HoF that said clearly said:
My nom for the 18th is:

Abandoned Ship (1957)
also known as Seven Waves Away and as Seven Days From Now

(and we had some nice PM convos back and forth, and I mentioned I had also considered Valley of the Dolls in a later PM, making small talk. But I NEVER said I wanted you to change it! I never hinted at it, that's not me and anybody who knows me at MoFo knows I don't operate that way.


OK, maybe I should have went with my first choice. I'm pretty sure if I nominated Valley of the Dolls it would come in near last.

I can now see by your piss poor behavior that you deliberately changed my nom to Valley of the Dolls because YOU wanted to watch it...as you had blind bought the DVD and never had the chance to watch it (you posted that)...That my friend is utter Bull Sh**. You changed my nom deliberately without my permission to suit your needs!


I don't know how you speak to other posters but the way you've chosen to speak to me is unfortunate. I had a number of things to do today and being what can best be described as lectured by you was not one of them. We ended up watching Abandon Ship! not Valley of the Dolls this happened immediately upon your request. You've now held this grudge for what two months. You claim you don't want to argue and yet here you are continuing to argue when I would like to go on with my life. You've decided to pick apart every little thing I've said question every emotion and motivation meanwhile I've been keeping my temper in check. You might not have liked my metaphor but you sure are acting like someone told you you looked fat in those jeans. It feels to me like I am speaking to someone who is throwing a temper tantrum.



I'm an empathetic and flexible person, I try not to take things to heart. See I'm worried that because of your selections your films are going to finish 11th and 12th. This is a problem for a couple reasons you might end up holding a grudge over that. Because you picked two similar films other peoples selections might end up bunched together and that could be a problem. While I've seen support from some posters towards you those posters didn't decide to participate in this Hall of Fame. Had they done so we wouldn't of had to make double nominations.


I'd also question why you felt this was the appropriate time and place to get into this argument. It seems to me that if a comedy hall of fame didn't work the first time that you would be reticent to hijack the new one with your issues.


If any good can come from this I hope the next person you decide to push into moderating these halls of fame you will take pause and not treat them the way you've decided to treat me today. That you would be capable of not thinking that they know you and your own personal eccentricities.

[Citizen Rules]

You have now accused me of lying, being an ass, insulting other people, taking away your choices, and being uncool. You insulted me with your fat girl in jeans comment, which you've just repeated btw...and that's why I then said you're acting like an ass. You're the one who's getting upset and lashing out, not me.

I'd also question why you felt this was the appropriate time and place to get into this argument. It seems to me that if a comedy hall of fame didn't work the first time that you would be reticent to hijack the new one with your issues. Why? because in the 18th Hof I decided not to say much, and I let it slide. But then 5 days ago you did it again in this HoF and that raised concerns....I was in Arizona at the time, so I couldn't properly respond as I didn't have ready internet access then.


From 5 days ago on this thread:
I seriously considered Sullivan's Travels, Joel McCrea is real good it and so is Veronica Lake😊

Well it's not too late to switch I'm both having difficulty finding True Confession and I'm a little worried about both of your films finishing 11th and 12th. Not that you picked bad films but I think the bar is exceptionally high.

No, I don't want to switch.

If they come in last, then that's fine. I know they are both excellent comedies and great examples of screwball comedy.

I can find you links to both of my noms. I'm in Arizona right now and don't have access to my computer, but when I get home in a few days I'll PM you a link.


Siddon: See I'm worried that because of your selections your films are going to finish 11th and 12th. That is not your concern, it makes me uncomfortable that you as a host have tried to get me to change my noms, stop it and there won't be anymore problems.

[Citizen Rules]

Enough has been said already, so moving on now...

I'll be watching one of the comedy noms tonight:p Maybe even two seeing how they are short.

[gbgoodies]

Just for the record, this time, it's not my fault. :lol:

[Citizen Rules]

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Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)


I wanted to find an animated gif of that naughty pre-code neon sign, but alias I couldn't find it...Oh well, I did find that photo. I loved that scene and that's what I mainly liked about Trouble in Paradise the occasional risque phrase or scene that Lubitsch spices his film with. There were a couple of good ones too! I swear I should take notes so I could remember them the next day. One that struck me as particularly stand out was when Kay Francis did a exercise move while laying prostrate on the floor, bringing her legs up and over her head in a most visually provocative manner...which then prompted Herbert Marshall to make a innuendo comment that was pretty funny. I wish I could remember what he said, but it was a fun moment. A very strong cast with quick quips and wit. The story itself didn't really engage me as much as I might have liked it too and I was never really into the movie but I did enjoy the art deco sets, the cast, and the pre code naughtiness.

[Citizen Rules]

Trouble in Paradise
the last scene was great) I like that last scene too, very satisfying ending and fun!



Trouble in Paradise
a great secondary list of players to support them with C. Aubrey Smith, Charles Ruggles and Edward Everett Horton. Yes! they were great. I was going to mention that, glad to see you gave them a shout out. I especially liked the pairing of Charles Ruggles and Edward Everett Horton. Edward Everett Horton (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1820062#post1820062) made my list of top 1930s actors/actresses and come to think of it Miriam Hopkins (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1940319#post1940319) did too.

[GulfportDoc]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)

I've been meaning to post commentary about TiP for some time, so I might as well jump in following CR's reminiscences.

This is a delightful Ernst Lubitsch film, played to perfection by Herbert Marshall, Miriam Hopkins, and Kay Francis. It portrays both elegant sexuality and sophisticated larceny perfectly delivered by Marshall and Hopkins, whose chemistry and comedy rivals that of Powell/Loy and Tracy/Hepburn.

As a pre-code film the lines were delightfully suggestive; and an ending which permitted the success of a crime was permitted.

I've always felt that Marshall was wooden as an actor. But here he's in full bloom. Only recently did I learn that he had lost a leg from the knee down in WWI, which caused his peculiar gait with a prosthesis, and also a great deal of chronic pain. Miriam Hopkins is alluring, funny, and charming as his foil (and lover). And Kay Francis is believable as a wealthy perfume manufacturing owner. Edward Everett Horton and Charles Ruggles turn in enjoyable supporting performances.

The plot has plenty of twists, and of course all resolves nicely in the romantic and amusing ending. This one is not easy to find. I believe Netflix disc rental has it, along with some libraries.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

I like that last scene too, very satisfying ending and fun!

Yes! they were great. I was going to mention that, glad to see you gave them a shout out. I especially liked the pairing of Charles Ruggles and Edward Everett Horton. Edward Everett Horton (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1820062#post1820062) made my list of top 1930s actors/actresses and come to think of it Miriam Hopkins (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1940319#post1940319) did too.

Ruggles and Horton WERE great together! I've always love Horton from childhood where I knew him as the narrator for Fractured Tales (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3121884/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1) in The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052507/?ref_=nv_sr_3?ref_=nv_sr_3). And for the longest time, I would search him out to get a face to the voice. Amusingly, it is the last few years, through HoFs and Countdowns have I REALLY gotten to see most of him.

[edarsenal]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)

I've been meaning to post commentary about TiP for some time, so I might as well jump in following CR's reminiscences.

This is a delightful Ernst Lubitsch film, played to perfection by Herbert Marshall, Miriam Hopkins, and Kay Francis. It portrays both elegant sexuality and sophisticated larceny perfectly delivered by Marshall and Hopkins, whose chemistry and comedy rivals that of Powell/Loy and Tracy/Hepburn.

As a pre-code film, the lines were delightfully suggestive; and an ending which permitted the success of a crime was permitted.

I've always felt that Marshall was wooden as an actor. But here he's in full bloom. Only recently did I learn that he had lost a leg from the knee down in WWI, which caused his peculiar gait with a prosthesis, and also a great deal of chronic pain. Miriam Hopkins is alluring, funny, and charming as his foil (and lover). And Kay Francis is believable as a wealthy perfume manufacturing owner. Edward Everett Horton and Charles Ruggles turn in enjoyable supporting performances.

The plot has plenty of twists, and of course, all resolves nicely in the romantic and amusing ending. This one is not easy to find. I believe Netflix disc rental has it, along with some libraries.

~Doc
An excellent description throughout. I loved everyone in this. And that their "mark" wasn't someone you looked forward to being conned, but as equally delightful, clever and suggestively witty as Hopkins and Marshall.

Comparing Marshall and Hopkins to Powell/Loy and Tracy/Hepburn IS very apt. I was thinking the same both the first and now, the second time I've watched this. Especially Powell/Loy.

Had no idea about the missing leg and I had assumed it was a very cavalier style of gait. Thank you for that tidbit.

EDIT: speaking of which, I just thought of one of those clever shots using a mirror with a statue in front of it, showing Marshall running up some stairs where you don't actually see his face. Having a prosthesis, he may not have shot up those stairs as he did, making the shot not only clever, artistically, but a necessity. Interesting.

[Citizen Rules]

Ruggles and Horton WERE great together! I've always love Horton from childhood where I knew him as the narrator for Fractured Tales (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3121884/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1) in The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052507/?ref_=nv_sr_3?ref_=nv_sr_3). And for the longest time, I would search him out to get a face to the voice. Amusingly, it is the last few years, through HoFs and Countdowns have I REALLY gotten to see most of him.I was just in Arizona and for the first time ever I had access to TCM. Gosh that was a dream! It's the only cable channel I would care to have. And guess what they showed? Kay Francis movies, and I watched several of them and who do I spy? Mr Horton and as funny as ever. Kay was good too, but mostly she was playing bad girls and murderess which was quite different than her role in TIP.

[Citizen Rules]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)

This one is not easy to find. I believe Netflix disc rental has it, along with some libraries. You're right Netflix DVD.Com has the disc for rental, I just checked. And if someone has streaming Netflix they can also add the DVD in the mail plan to their existing streaming plan. It's only a few dollars more each month, AND there are a ton of older movies and classics that are not available from Netflix streaming, but are available by Netflix/DVD.com disc plan.

I used a link, as I was in a hurry to watch it:p so if anyone needs a link just give a shout out.

[edarsenal]

I was just in Arizona and for the first time ever I had access to TCM. Gosh that was a dream! It's the only cable channel I would care to have. And guess what they showed? Kay Francis movies, and I watched several of them and who do I spy? Mr Horton and as funny as ever. Kay was good too, but mostly she was playing bad girls and murderess which was quite different than her role in TIP.

TMC is the ONLY channel I truly and utterly miss since I got rid of cable. Every other Sunday we visit my mom for the day and I always check to see what's on TMC that day that she might enjoy. I tried watching The Best Years of Our Lives once and she didn't care for the rougher parts of it. She did love the day that featured a couple of Judy Garland films: A Star is Born and, I think, Meet Me in St Louis. She loved those.
In short, no gangster flicks, noirs or even war films. Just comedies, musicals, and romance and no really serious drama. She just scowls at those.

[edarsenal]

You're right Netflix DVD.Com has the disc for rental, I just checked. And if someone has streaming Netflix they can also add the DVD in the mail plan to their existing streaming plan. It's only a few dollars more each month, AND there are a ton of older movies and classics that are not available from Netflix streaming, but are available by Netflix/DVD.com disc plan.

I used a link, as I was in a hurry to watch it:p so if anyone needs a link just give a shout out.

there's also a great streaming site with a secondary site that has a fantastic list of oldies where I watched this and will be watching several others from this, so I can supply links as well. INCLUDING Nothing Sacred and True Confession!!

[GulfportDoc]

...

EDIT: speaking of which, I just thought of one of those clever shots using a mirror with a statue in front of it, showing Marshall running up some stairs where you don't actually see his face. Having a prosthesis, he may not have shot up those stairs as he did, making the shot not only clever, artistically, but a necessity. Interesting.
Yeah, they used a body double in that scene. Marshall was not capable of running up stairs.

BTW, which streaming sites are you referring to re streaming the two classics? I couldn't get them on any of my more shady streaming sites...:cool:

~Doc

[edarsenal]

sent you a Comment with the site.

[ahwell]

It's a Gift
It's a pretty fun movie, but nothing really happens in it. My main problem is similar to that of Monkey Business, in that it consists of mainly no plot at all, except for his desire to have an orange ranch. There's no character development, just three or four extended sequences - which were entertaining for what they were - containing our poor main character just always being at the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing. His wife was an annoying ****, and I know she was supposed to be, but even her acting seemed kind of forced. But it was still a light and fun watch, no real harm done.

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[Citizen Rules]

Ahwell, you're on a roll:) I haven't read many of the reviews, yet, as usual I want to wait tell after I've seen the movie...but I'll will read them all.

[ahwell]

Ahwell, you're on a roll:) I haven't read many of the reviews, yet, as usual I want to wait tell after I've seen the movie...but I'll will read them all.

Yeah, trying to knock many of these off as I'm not sure how much time I'll have in a couple weeks.

[Citizen Rules]

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Nothing Sacred (William Wellman, 1937)


Gotta love Carole Lombard in this, or maybe you don't, but I sure do! She's the reason I chose Nothing Sacred and True Confessions as my two noms. Carole Lombard was one of the biggest stars in the 1930s and a skilled comedian too. My favorite film of hers would be the riotously funny My Man Godfrey with the equally funny William Powell. I did enjoy Nothing Sacred, I laughed out loud and Carole was really good in this.

What really impressed me though is the film's historical importance. It's a very early 3 Strip Technicolor film from 1937. That's two years earlier than the celebrated The Wizard of Oz. To me an old film is like a time machine back to the past, and with Nothing Sacred we get to see the streets of New York City and also see it from the air, and it's in color! Think about that for a moment, the director William Wellman (Wings 1927) actually used full color aerial footage. I'm sure that was the first time for a feature length film.

And this is the first and only time Miss Lombard was filmed in color. They dyed her hair red from her normal light blonde trusses. Still, I thought she looked great, especially in the blue evening gown at the restaurant/club scene. Ahh, those were the days when women road horses onto the stage! and people were decked to the nines as they eat, drank and danced in a posh NYC club. Which is much more colorful than my last meal at Denny's:p

That's the thing about 1930s comedies: America was under the grips of the great depression and audiences went regularly to the movies as a form of escape...And what they escaped into was often the glitzy world of the rich and well-to-do. For a hour or two the poor could image what it would be like not to have to save every crumb of food just to keep from starving.

At the heart of Nothing Sacred is a story of a simple woman from a small rural town who uses her supposed radium poisoning condition to get to live the 'good life' for a short time in NYC. And it's a story of skepticism and mistrust in the newspapers, which is another common theme for 1930s films. But what I really thought was a sophisticated story element was the condemnation of the hoopla that resulted from the media coverage in NYC. We see the people poured their hearts out for the poor dying girl, putting on one helluva show, when really what they wanted was just to feel good about themselves.

Like a lot of screwball comedies of the 30s, Nothing Sacred has a much deeper meaning than the surface shenanigans.

[AlexWilder]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)

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a great director once said that he have a sign on the wall of his office that asked, ''What would Lubitsch have done?' that director is the one im my avatar sitting with his five oscars.

wilder was probably referring to what's known by The "Lubitsch touch" which is the style that can be found in his movies and that emphasizes subtlety and elegance, expressive of good taste, and being economical about what does and doesn't need to be shown. at least that's how imdb describes it :D

this was the second time i watch this movie and i gotta say that i'm happy that i nominated it for this HoF because i think that this movie is like the basis of all the romantic comedies of that era and we can easily notice the influence that it had on Screwball comedy subgenre movies like Bringing Up Baby, The Lady Eve, Pat and Mike and many many others.

the movie is filled with delightfull little subtleties, and there is few that i would like to mention:

- at the beginning credits the title reads just "Trouble in", doesn't show the word "Paradise" and then at the bottom is a bed. It means "Trouble in Bed".

- when he says if he were her father he give her "a good spanking" then pauses and adds in the business sense of course...
They continue with her asking him: What would you do if you were my secretary?
And he replies: Then I would give you a good spanking too.
Her: You are hired.

- When the two are talking about their plan for the next day. He suggests activities like breakfast, a stroll, lunch, etc. and she adds "together" to the end of each. He then suggests that after lunch they could take a nap. She starts to respond "to-" then stops herself and smiles a little.

- when we see their reflection on the bed..

and many many others..

needless to say that the dialogue was excellent , witty , charming and fun with a lot of memorable quoets like the one by Lily Vautier: I wouldn't fall for another man if he was the biggest crook on earth! and many others.

finally the actors were all great from the three leading roles to the secondary supporting ones, but i must say that i liked miriam hopkins the most.

[Citizen Rules]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)


the movie is filled with delightfull little subtleties, and there is few that i would like to mention:

- at the beginning credits the title reads just "Trouble in", doesn't show the word "Paradise" and then at the bottom is a bed. It means "Trouble in Bed". I missed the opening with the bed and movie title, rats! I'm going to try and rewatch this as I was really tired and I think some of the more subtle innuendos slipped right over my sleepy head. BTW Miriam Hopkins is great in this. Have you seen her in anything else?

[AlexWilder]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)


the movie is filled with delightfull little subtleties, and there is few that i would like to mention:

- at the beginning credits the title reads just "Trouble in", doesn't show the word "Paradise" and then at the bottom is a bed. It means "Trouble in Bed". I missed the opening with the bed and movie title, rats! I'm going to try and rewatch this as I was really tired and I think some of the more subtle innuendos slipped right over my sleepy head. BTW Miriam Hopkins is great in this. Have you seen her in anything else?

No i haven't, do you recommend anything ??

[ahwell]

Trouble in Paradise (1932)


the movie is filled with delightfull little subtleties, and there is few that i would like to mention:

- at the beginning credits the title reads just "Trouble in", doesn't show the word "Paradise" and then at the bottom is a bed. It means "Trouble in Bed". I missed the opening with the bed and movie title, rats! I'm going to try and rewatch this as I was really tired and I think some of the more subtle innuendos slipped right over my sleepy head. BTW Miriam Hopkins is great in this. Have you seen her in anything else?

No i haven't, do you recommend anything ??

She’s great in Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde.

[GulfportDoc]

...
- When the two are talking about their plan for the next day. He suggests activities like breakfast, a stroll, lunch, etc. and she adds "together" to the end of each. He then suggests that after lunch they could take a nap. She starts to respond "to-" then stops herself and smiles a little.

- when we see their reflection on the bed..

and many many others..

needless to say that the dialogue was excellent , witty , charming and fun with a lot of memorable quoets like the one by Lily Vautier: I wouldn't fall for another man if he was the biggest crook on earth! and many others.

finally the actors were all great from the three leading roles to the secondary supporting ones, but i must say that i liked miriam hopkins the most.
Nice commentary, AW! I like the repartee you pointed out between Hopkins and Marshall. Being pre-code, they got away with a lot of obvious innuendo that the Hays code would have screeched at..:) Also, even though it was a comedy, the code would have nixed them getting away with a heist at the end. Growing up watching movies, I just assumed all criminal acts were caught and punished...:D

~Doc

[ahwell]

His Girl Friday
This is another awesome screwball comedy with some great innuendos. It's not quite as good as Trouble in Paradise, but I love the wittiness and flavor of it. Hildy is such a great character, maybe my favorite in these comedy movies so far. She's strong, kind, and not very annoying. In the end, there are some great moments and some not-so-great moments, but the effect is a fun and fast paced comedy that I thoroughly enjoyed.

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No i haven't, do you recommend anything ??Miriam Hopkins was in a lot of good movies. A few that I recommend are:
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022835/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_49)
Design for Living (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023940/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_42) another Ernst Lubitsch film.
Barbary Coast (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0026097/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_37) a Howard Hawks film

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She’s great in Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. I just seen this, yes! She sure was:p

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Nothing Sacred (1937)

I've always been a big Carole Lombard fan. She was gorgeous and had a natural flare for comedy. It was one of the great Hollywood tragedies that she was killed at aged 33 in a 1942 plane crash.

This film might be described as a mild to moderate screwball comedy. Lombard and Frederic March do commendable jobs with their interaction, but the comedy writing is not as imaginative or as appealing as other films such as Lombard's Twentieth Century (1934) or My Man Godfrey (1936). Here the comedy is not so much in the funny lines or the repartee, but in Lombard's ability for humorous facial expressions and in her reactions. Having done dozens of silent films, she knew how to express her character's thoughts without dialogue.

March does a nice job against Lombard, but IMO he was first a dramatic actor, second at comedy. Most of his great roles were as a serious dramatic actor. He has that kind of presence that evokes sincerity and importance. It seems to me that good comedic actors can do good dramatic acting (Berle, Rickles, Lewis, R. Williams), but good dramatic actors tend to have trouble with comedy.

On the surface this had the ingredients for a great film. Directed by William Wellman, screenplay by Ben Hecht, co-written by Selznik, Moss Hart, George S. Kaufman, Ring Lardner and others, it sounds like a dream team. Perhaps this was a production that suffered from creative over-kill. But be that as it may, Nothing Sacred is an enjoyable and important comedy.

~Doc

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Nothing Sacred (1937)

I've always been a big Carole Lombard fan. She was gorgeous and had a natural flare for comedy. It was one of the great Hollywood tragedies that she was killed at aged 33 in a 1942 plane crash.

This film might be described as a mild to moderate screwball comedy. Lombard and Frederic March do commendable jobs with their interaction, but the comedy writing is not as imaginative or as appealing as other films such as Lombard's Twentieth Century (1934) or My Man Godfrey (1936). Here the comedy is not so much in the funny lines or the repartee, but in Lombard's ability for humorous facial expressions and in her reactions. Having done dozens of silent films, she knew how to express her character's thoughts without dialogue.

March does a nice job against Lombard, but IMO he was first a dramatic actor, second at comedy. Most of his great roles were as a serious dramatic actor. He has that kind of presence that evokes sincerity and importance. It seems to me that good comedic actors can do good dramatic acting (Berle, Rickles, Lewis, R. Williams), but good dramatic actors tend to have trouble with comedy.
I can agree about Fredrick March and about dramatic actors in general not being the best in comedy roles. Though he does play the straight man and his discomfort and seriousness helps to make Lombard's character stand out. But the movie would have rocked with William Powell in March's role.

I like what you said about comic actors being able to do drama especially well. Besides all the examples you listed I'll add: John Candy in Oliver Stone's JFK, Jerry Lewis in The King of Comedy, and so many more. Even Carole Lombard in the early days of sound film did dramatic roles and was good at them. I have to say I had a hard time watching the scene when she was on the plane to NYC, I was thinking in a few years she would be gone after that tragic plane crash in 1942:(

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I like what you said about comic actors being able to do drama especially well. Besides all the examples you listed I'll add: John Candy in Oliver Stone's JFK, Jerry Lewis in The King of Comedy, and so many more. Even Carole Lombard in the early days of sound film did dramatic roles and was good at them. I have to say I had a hard time watching the scene when she was on the plane to NYC, I was thinking in a few years she would be gone after that tragic plane crash in 1942:(
Did you happen to pick up that the Morning Star's editor, played by the memorable character actor Walter Connolly, was named Oliver Stone?..:)

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Did you happen to pick up that the Morning Star's editor, played by the memorable character actor Walter Connolly, was named Oliver Stone?..:) Yes! I did. Thought that was oddly funny.

[edarsenal]

Glad to see a review on Nothing Sacred. I'll have a double to post reviews on; True Confession and Kind Hearts and Coronets

Also, agree on how a lot of comedic actors do well in dramatic roles while a lot of dramatic actors have trouble doing comedy.

[ahwell]

Duck Soup

This is by and far my favorite Marx Brothers film, and it is probably the best political satire film ever made aside from Dr. Strangelove. It's so entertaining, so funny, so brilliant. Every scene and line is just a jewel, expertly crafted. Yes, there are moments where perhaps there is dialogue only for the sake of setting up a punch line which isn't even all that great and sounds kind of forced. But even besides that dated humor, we get some modern and interesting messages and themes on the political situation that is even relevant in today's bizarre political atmosphere. The musical numbers are just great too, and the film knows how stupid it is, and makes fun of that.

4.5

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True Confession (1937)


I hate to admit it, but after watching True Confession I found that it was even better than I had remembered:p It's a good example of the 1930s screwball comedy. After watching a screwball comedy if you find yourself saying, 'this didn't seem real, people wouldn't act that way in real life'....Well, that's what makes it a screwball comedy...it's farcical with nutty unhinged characters driving the story forward with their zany behavior.

There weren't many screwball comedies made, having only been mainly popular during the 1930s. Situational comedies took over in the 1940s and are more familiar to people today. So unless one is use to watching these 30s screwball comedies (and not all comedies in the 30s are screwball), they can be hard for people to relate to. But if you still have a hard time believing the antics of Carole Lombard, just ask yourself what would Lucy do? or Bart Simpson? People readily accept that Bart Simpson has been in the 4th grade for 29 years and that Homer readily attempts to strangle his own son every other week. Screwball comedies are screwy! Realism isn't what they aim for.

True Confession has an dynamic energy to it, that moves the story along at a quick pace. That's established right at the get-go in the opening scene with Carole rushing home, racing up a flight of stairs in a tither, frantically taking off her gloves and hat (because women always wore hats and gloves back then!) and hurriedly grabbing the phone so she can excitedly tell her lawyer husband about her hair-brained scheme to help him get a client and make some money, as their broke (money and poverty themes often figure into screwballs). Only her husband is the quintessential straight-man and is so strict about being honest (an honest lawyer is as funny now, as it was in the 30s!) So of course he won't have any part of defending a guilty man in court. That opening scene then sets the pace and the story tone for the rest of the movie.

Geez I've already wrote more than I had planned...So I'll wrap this up by saying Carole Lombard is precious in this role. There's very few actresses that could pull off such a scattered brain, lying-cutie role as Carole did. Katharine Hepburn did it in Bringing Up Baby and Ginger Rogers and Lucille Ball could do it too. Carole is the movie. Her side kick Una Merkel is a long time fav of mine, and she added a lot. As did John Barrymore. At first I wondered what was up with Barrymore's character, of course the clue is it's a screwball comedy...and he's plenty screwy...and oh so good at delivery those thespian styled lines too.

I thought Fred MacMurray was the perfect 'foil' for his ditzy wife's lying shenanigans. I loved the scene at the end when he's leaving her and she tells him that she will name their child after him, ha! That made me laugh out loud. And I laughed a lot at True Confession, but more importantly it brought me joy...and that's always a good thing:)

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True Confession (1937)

Another screwball comedy in the general vein of Nothing Sacred, True Confession had more elements typical of the better screwball comedies. Both films were released at the end of 1937, only a month apart, and both starring Carole Lombard as a ditzy gal who is caught up in a hoax.

In this film Lombard gets to play the harebrain to full effect, and has oodles of laughs, along with the use of an interesting physical leitmotif that literally puts her tongue in her cheek before she is about to tell a lie-- even while treading water in Lake Martha (Lake Arrowhead).

As usual Lombard is the central character of interest, and she is hypnotically attractive here. Fred MacMurray does a good job as her straight man, and has a number of laugh lines himself. It's hard to imagine what they were thinking by giving him a gigolo mustache. It looked out of place, even for the 1930s, and made him look rather silly. A common straight across, above-the-lip mustache would have been preferable.

John Barrymore has a good portrayal of a shady character who seems to know about the crime and hoax, but the role seems forced, or added on to thicken the story. The character's addition tends to confuse rather than embellish.

It must have been a heck of a coincidence to have two screwball films from different studios with major similarities and the same comedy actress starring in both, coming out a month apart. Of the two IMO True Confession was the zanier and funnier.

Hollywood must have been confident of Lombard's appeal and box office regardless of who was her male counterpart. Yet it takes a distinct personality to mesh with her brand of comedy. Her funniest films might be with John Barrymore (Twentieth Century 1934), William Powell (My Man Godfrey 1936), and Jack Benny (To Be or Not To Be 1942). One of the highest paid actresses in Hollywood, she deserved every penny of it.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

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True Confession

Daisy McClure: Helen, if you think you can hold down a job six days a week without Ken knowing it...
Helen Bartlett: It's five days a week.
Daisy McClure: Well, all right, five. I still say that...
Helen Bartlett: And 50 dollars a week. And three hours a day. And guess what I am.
Daisy McClure: No, thanks.

It would be incredibly easy to simply quote both Citizen Rules and GulfportDoc at a number of spots and simply end with: "Yeah, what they said."

Both describe Lombard's talent and beauty in this role with apt affection and respect befitting the lady. I, myself, have been quite limited in my viewings of her movies and have been lucky enough to discover some prime roles within these HoFs. Previously with Virtue which allowed me to see a more cagey, clever lady of experience(s) than what I had seen her in such films as My Man Godfry and while there are similarities in this film, there is also a quick thinking, almost diabolical nature that is so d@mn adorable it is no wonder that even such a straight arrow as MacMurray's character; knowing full well what a liar she is and HOW MUCH he hates liars, can not, will not, leave her.
Nor do we blame him.

Along with MacMurray's matching, so much be said about her best friend, played with saavy by Una Merkel who gets to knock out quite a number of clever lines of dialogue as well as some great facial and body reactions to Lombard's antics.

There was also a very neat little cameo bit by Fritz Feld playing the butler whom I grew up knowing as the man with the mouth popping --

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With seeing Lombard in this it has met my expectations at getting to see her in an unknown film and makes me even more excited to watch her in Nothing Sacred.

[edarsenal]

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Kind Hearts and Coronets


Louis Mazzini: I shot an arrow in the air; she fell to earth in Berkeley Square.

On a more elegant, high collared realm of witticism that one may consider is inspired by Oscar Wilde along with the very plot itself; we visit Mazzini (played by Dennis Price) within his jail cell the night before his hanging. Writing his memoirs of the murders he has committed. All of which from the same family. All of which played by Alec Guinness with the aplomb and skill of the gentleman himself.
Having been snubbed by his mother's family by snubbing her for marrying his father, an Italian singer, Louis decides to claim his birthright by taking out the family and becoming Duke.

A merry little jaunt as Louis devises and carries out taking out the long list of the Ascoyne
family. The film is wonderfully entrenched with dry humor, pithy dialogue and a subterfuge hidden beneath courteous behavior.
Some of the best examples of this is between Dennis Price and Joan Greenwood where their polite behavior with one another masks the more darker, baser individuals that are attracted to one another.

A subtle, delicate and delicious addition to this HoF.

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there's also a great streaming site with a secondary site that has a fantastic list of oldies where I watched this and will be watching several others from this, so I can supply links as well. INCLUDING Nothing Sacred and True Confession!!


edarsenal, Would you please PM me the link for the site with Nothing Sacred and True Confession? Thank you. :)

[edarsenal]

edarsenal, Would you please PM me the link for the site with Nothing Sacred and True Confession? Thank you. :)
my pleasure, my dear
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my pleasure, my dear
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Thank you! :)

[ahwell]

True Confession
For a while into this movie, I really really enjoyed it. There were some funny moments, and the acting is fantastic, especially from Lombard. But after/during the trial, the whole thing got a lot less enjoyable and more laborious to watch. I can't quite put my finger on what it was - maybe how the interesting characters that had been developed now just seemed to be acting for greater comedic affect of the audience? Or maybe simply that there was less humor? Anyways, after watching my thoughts were basically that I enjoyed watching this movie, nothing more, nothing less.

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Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949)

I first heard of this movie when it made the MoFo 1940's Top 100 Countdown. It came in at #26, which is pretty impressive. It's been on my watch-list since then. I'm glad it was nominated as my watch list is longer than a politician's nose.

I love British films about nobility set in the 19th century. Pride and Prejudice & Jane Eyre are two that come to mind. And Kind Hearts and Coronets reminded me of those British melodramas that deliver human interest stories set inside the world of upper crust 1800s England. Some might call them soap opera style, like it was a bad thing, which it's not when done well, and Kind Hearts and Coronets was done very well...With it's personal story of one poor man's rise into the world of rich nobility, as told by his first person narrative...in that way it reminded me of another great film Barry Lyndon.

I thought the main lead Louis (Dennis Price) was well suited for his role, and his love interest Sibella (Joan Greenwood) was interesting. She had this way of talking than made her sound a bit sinister without even trying. She was real good too. And yes Alec Guinness played a bunch of different roles and did a good job of it. So the movie totally worked as a drama for me, but I would never have guessed this was a comedy. I'm not sure what the comedy was suppose to be? Perhaps Alec Guinness in all those disguises? Maybe it was the language barrier that stopped me from laughing as there were times I couldn't understand what some of the secondary characters were saying and no subs on the DVD either.

But I think the reason the humor elements didn't work for me was that the style was British dry humor and some of the references I just didn't get. Not the films fault of course, I'm sure in Britain in 1949 the audiences totally got it. I appreciated the film sets, which were richly detailed with many different shooting locations. And the drama and story was to my liking. But I'm not sure how to judge this as a comedy as I seen it first and foremost as a drama.

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Harvey


The Taxi Driver: After this he'll be a perfectly normal human being. And you know what stinkers they are!


While this isn't a film that causes you to laugh out loud, I must say, having seen this film so many many times, over extremely ample amounts of time, it does bring a warm, pleasant sigh to the heart as the final scene wraps up.

They say Stewart states that this is his favorite role and, of course, his warmth, courteous charm and civility is delightful. Though, the stand out for me is Jospehine Hull, playing his sister with such frantic worry. She has so many amusing lines that burst through whether she wishes them to or not.
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Now, I do enjoy her performance a little more in Arsenic & Old Lace, but still, her frayed composure is an excellent contrast to Stewart's lucid, carefree attitude.

I chose this as my second nomination when I saw that it just fit into the 1951 limit and knew this may be the only chance for such a classic to make an HoF appearance.

::aside:: "Yes, yes, yes, I'll tell them."
Harvey felt the same way as well.

[GulfportDoc]

Originally my plan was to comment on the films in order, but having skipped over the Fields and Marx Bros. titles, I re-watched Kind Hearts and Coronets for the first time in many years, which was even better than memory recalled.

Billed as a black comedy, the narrative is certainly a satire which skewers the exaggerated upper class behavior of Edwardian England, with its embellished, almost theatrical manners and "ever so" affected speech. With these elements, satire becomes nearly effortless.

Dennis Price as Louis D'Ascoyne Mazzini was a perfect choice to play the foppish cad, and was impressive at sustaining his character throughout. Alec Guinness played with near perfection portrayals of 8 different D'Ascoyne individuals, with only the Lady Agatha part seeming less than perfect. Most of his other roles might have been unrecognizable to someone not realizing that Guinness was playing multiple roles. The gorgeous Valerie Hobson played the stoic Edith D'Ascoyne, while Mazzini's intermittent carnal interest, Sibella, is nicely done by Joan Greenwood.

The heavy adultery themes were pretty racy for 1949, as was some of the dialogue from Reverend D'Ascoyne. And the "Eenie, meenie, miney, moe..." sequence was of note. There were also some impressive technical effects. In one frame, 6 of Guinness's characters were shown simultaneously. It's remarkable that they were able to do that in 1949.

Apart from it's comedic aspects (there were only a few laugh-out-loud lines), "Coronets" was a very well done film, with a refreshing story and amusing dialogue. The BFI Top 100 British Films has it rated at number 6.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

Just like my review for Arsenic & Old Lace, I have found that my previous review from the Second 40s HoF equals my enjoyment of rewatching this film. . .

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His Girl Friday

Don't blink, or you WILL miss dialogue!! :)

It's kinda funny that the SPEED of the words being said out weighs almost everything else that this movie has to offer when it comes to people talking about this film. Which it DOES have a lot to offer.
The speed never really bothered me. Just as long as there were no distractions around me so that I could keep my full attention to this movie and truly enjoy all that it had to offer.
EDIT: In fact, on this go around, I found myself able to keep pace quite easily with the break neck banter even more so than previously.

There are some great comedic bits in this. In particular, the side remarks among the other reporters stationed out at the prison. While at the same time it WAS a bit of a scary mirror to hold up to what the news was allowed to do without little to no responsibility or repercussions. But dwelling on such things is a bit counter productive for the film itself and its wit and speedy deliveries. So, enough of that.

This is one of the few films that I've been able to see a young Rosalind Russell and always knew her as Auntie Mame which she is truly great in; so it was a great pleasure to see her in this. Going toe to toe with Cary Grant for savvy and quick thinking. Making a great and very diabolical team.
I must say, I really felt sorry for Bellamy's character who played the nice, understanding guy very well.

Another stand out enjoyment was this rotund messenger in the photo above. LOVED his scenes.

A very, very fun film and equally funny on a rewatch!

[edarsenal]

And that, I believe, puts me at the halfway mark. Gonna see if I can squeeze in another watch tonight. Unsure what -- we shall see.

[GulfportDoc]

It's a Gift (1934)

Although not one of the most recognizable titles among W.C. Fields' more than 40 films, it's filled with many of his routines that he'd perfected in vaudeville. In fact the film's plot is rather thin, but serves as a vehicle to piece together many of these famous routines: the blind man, the back porch, at a picnic with Baby LeRoy, etc., along with his penchant for playing an Everyman henpecked husband who triumphs in the end.

In this outing Fields plays a humble small general store owner who inherits land in California which he believes will fulfill his dream of owning a prosperous orange grove. The land turns out not what it is expected to be, but becomes a valuable gift in the end.

Fields is in the prime of his comedy effectiveness here. His shrewish wife is played to perfection by Kathleen Howard (who appeared against Fields in two other comedies). His well known interaction with his nemesis Baby LeRoy is famously showcased, which culminates in Fields giving LeRoy a kick in the pants.

At only 68 minutes running time, the film goes by quickly.

There is another film he did at Paramount, in 1932, which is my personal favorite Fields. The comments about Duck Soup will offer it in comparison.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

great review GulfportDoc!!
I do enjoy Fields and loved it when he paired with Mae West. He was the only one, in my opinion, that was able to share the screen with her without being seen as fodder or background. And that doubles as a compliment to Miss West as well. No one could share the screen with her without being, mostly, ignored.

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Duck Soup (1933)


You know I always thought that Groucho really had big thick black eyebrows and a huge mustache to match. I thought that when I use to watch the Marx Bros as a kid. When I was adult I remember seeing a much older Groucho Marx on TV and I wondered where in the hell his eyebrows had went to! So it came as a big shock to me when I finally realized that Groucho was adored in black grease paint after all! Of course with the internet all one has to do is to look at the photo up there and see the grease paint!

It's been a good 15 years since I last watched one of the Marx Bros films. So I watched this one last night. Glad it was nominated too as I was hoping for a diversity in classic comedy films...and we got it!

I still like Groucho! He's funny with his smart ass remarks and I guess that grease paint helps too. The Marx bros did all of their famous antics in Duck Soup: Harpo with his scissors and his leg in the arm trick, good stuff! I think my favorite bit was Chico and Harpo dressed up like Groucho and the resulting mirror scene, a classic for sure. I wasn't big on the story, for me the draw are the four Marx brothers. OK only three of them are actually funny. Poor Zeppo might not get any gags but he's a good sport.

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The mirror scene was truly a classic Citizen Rules. But you know, the first time I saw a mirror scene with a Marx brother was in this old I Love Lucy show




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Harvey (1950)


Harvey is a great exercise in whimsy, Jimmy Stewart plays a confirmed bachelor and eccentric who claims to see a 6'4 giant bunny rabbit. Elwood is a pleasant enough fellow even though he clearly drinks too much and hangs around with shady though once again pleasant characters.

Everyone in this film is sort of right on the verge of a breakdown, from his spinster niece to his sister who goes through her own tragic visit to the sanitarium to the climax which is what I assume would be a lobotomy. The film never really dives into these dark corners it just sort of glosses right over them and moves onto the next character and plot point.

Stewart really grounds this film, I don't what other actor could play Elwood with a sense of decency in this darkness. The casting director also did an excellent job filling all the supporting roles with quality character actors my favorites were Wallace Ford as the taxi driver and Victoria Horne as Myrtle two characters who might have been played as villains but were once again ingrained with a sense of charm. No one in this film is really that bad...they just have a little mischief going on around them.

rating_3_5

[edarsenal]

nicely expressed Siddon

[Citizen Rules]

I'm looking forward to a rewatch of Harvey. I really liked it the one and only time I seen it some 8-10 years ago.

[Nathaniel]

His Girl Friday (1940)

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I decided to start with this one because Howard Hawks is peaking my curiosity right now. I watched Scarface and Bringing Up Baby fairly recently and ended up disliking them. I've liked a lot of his films going off memory but his well known films are falling into hit or miss in the past few years.

His Girl Friday is the high point of the screwball genre for me. The dialogue from Grant and Russell is impressive enough at the speed they are going but what they're coming out with is consistently witty. It also doesn't feel like rambling or saying a bunch of words for the sake of it. I liked it too because it stands out from the dialogue of Bellamy and some of the other characters. In fairness, I don't think Bellamy could deliver lines that quickly even if he wanted to but still :p. It has lots of clever one liners from the entire cast. Grant's Walter casually describing Bruce by saying he looks like that Ralph Bellamy fellow from the movies came hilariously out of left field.

Rosalind Russell's Hildy was a unique character at this point in Hollywood cinema. It doesn't surprise me that the role was originally written for a male but it was a inspired decision to change the script and it leads to a great performance.

Hollywood loves the idea of newspaper men with no shame and I'd say this film is the funniest manifestation of that.

[GulfportDoc]

Duck Soup (1933)

It’s difficult to overstate the effect that the Marx Brothers in general, and Duck Soup in specific, had in the history of comedy films. They had already well established their wacky and zany antics and harebrained plots in their previous six films (the first, Humor Risk, was never released). But with this picture they added off-beat, eccentric, and bizarre plots and situations --the kind of films that are represented today by Wes Anderson, the Coen Brothers, and the like-- which was uncommon in the 1930s and that really never took hold for several decades.

It’s likely that this embellishment in their established style was due to the addition of Herman Mankiewicz as producer and uncredited writer. Mankiewicz had produced and co-written W.C. Fields’ Million Dollar Legs the year before, which had very similar themes: a dysfunctional fictional tiny country is in need of help by outside folks (“Klopsokia” vs. “Freedonia”). The absurdist comedy in both films is fresh, riotous, and memorable, and rank as my personal favorites from each artist respectively.

There were several other differences. This was the last film to feature Zeppo, the 4th Marx brother. He usually played a romantic part, as he was not a gifted wacky comedian. Neither Harpo or Chico had scenes in which they played their musical instruments. And Groucho had pretty well established himself as the lead Marx brother. This was their final project at Paramount.

The film is famous for featuring some of their best routines: the mirror scene with Groucho and Harpo; the production chorus scene where national fervor is represented as a minstrel show; the hat and lemonade scene with comedian Edgar Kennedy; and Harpo’s bit, dialing a radio thinking it’s a safe. In fact there are so many classic bits and double entendres that it’s hard to catch them all in one watch. One has to experience the film in several viewings-- and it’s only 68 minutes long!

It’s astonishing that the mirror scene was filmed in only two hours! There had been very well done similar scenes in two silent films: Lloyd’s 1919 The Marathon, and Linder’s 1921 Seven Years Bad Luck.

Some younger viewers might strain a little to appreciate some of the humor in a film such as Duck Soup, passing it off as too anachronistic. It helps to imagine the impact it had on audiences of the day, and to be aware of the restrictions film makers were laboring under, which would lead to the new Hays Code. Most of the Marx brothers’ gags were fresh, even avant-garde in that period, and have been imitated countless times by others. As a testament to the legacy of Duck Soup, most reviewers place it in their lists of the top 100 great films; not just the top comedy films, but best films, period. In my own view Duck Soup is a unique farce, and ranks as one of my own very favorite comedies.

~Doc

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Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin,1936)


I liked Paulette Goddard so much in Modern Times that I decided to use her as my lead photo:) And why not? She's exhilarating, she's dynamic and she brightens up every scene she's in. As much as I liked her in Chaplin's The Great Dictator, I liked her even more here as a poor street waif. The film refers to her as a 'gamine' which is French for mischievous imp...and that perfectly describes her role in the classic film. I loved the banana scene where she's stealing bananas from a boat and throwing them with an enthusiastic glee to the hungry kids on the dock. What amazes me most about Paulette is that she looks so contemporary and so real, that I wouldn't be surprised to see her in the produce section at the grocery store pondering whether bananas should be free or not:p

Chaplin is great, of course. I've enjoyed every single film of his I've seen. And I want to see more. So I was glad that this classic got nominated. Chaplin is so innovative as a director that all of the stunts 'the little tramp' does looks so effortless. Loved the entire scene in the factory with the big machinery which I swear was real! Of course after the film I read that those huge clogs and gears were made of rubber and wood...but damn what a great set piece! And just thinking of the automated feeding machine that poor Chaplin encountered, makes me laugh!

Modern Times marks an end of an era. It was the last of Chaplin's silent films. Yes he does sing and we do hear voices, but those come from mechanical contraptions. Which I thought was quite clever and of course it is clever it's a Chaplin film: Written by, directed by, produced by, music by and starring the one and only Charlie Chaplin.


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[ahwell]

Top Hat

It's a fun an interesting film, and I liked it quite a bit. The plot was interesting and funny, and the characters were delightful. The music and dancing were also great, although the last song and dance was a bit long. One of my main complaints is the rewatchability, the idea that the whole plot is built around that one final climax. There's not really much more plot than that, I think that could make it boring on a second viewing. But overall, a good watch.

3.5

[edarsenal]

I've watched Top Hat as well. Just need to get a review put together and posted.

[GulfportDoc]

Top Hat (1935)

This is a brilliant film, although not the first picture one would think of as a comedy. It’s chiefly a dance musical comedy, in contrast to a pure comedy. The laughs vary from good natured, aw shucks, minimally suggestive; and serve more to accentuate the budding romance between Astaire & Rogers (Jerry and Dale), along with the light story: girl believes boy is married, so she eventually agrees to marry another, but gradually boy & girl fall in love despite several screwball antics. Edward Everett Horton provides reliable off-beat and double-take gags, which is his meat and potatoes. Eric Blore is very amusing as Horton’s earnest but supercilious valet.

There are eight musical dance numbers which are innovatively and expressively choreographed by Astaire and Hermes Pan. All the songs are written by the great Irving Berlin. Many instantly became hits, and remain in the American song book: Cheek to Cheek, Top Hat, White Tie and Tails, Isn’t This a Lovely Day, and others. And who could forget the elaborate chorus and dance sequence, “The Piccolini”.

Everyone has their favorite Astaire solo dance as well as his many famous duets with Rogers. Some prefer Flying Down to Rio, or The Gay Divorcee, but Astaire and Rogers never are better in several of their routines in this picture. Isn’t This is a Lovely day, later followed by Cheek to Cheek showcases the pair in their initial attraction and bashfulness, followed by the back bending finale of Cheek to Cheek, when it’s obvious that they are in love.

Astaire performs his famous Top Hat, White Tie and Tails tap routine, which never gets old. This is one of my personal favorites, and ranks with his ceiling dancing, and dancing with a hat rack, both from Royal Wedding.

I became familiar with these movies in the perfect place. Living in Hollywood in the 1960s, the local all-nite L.A. movie channels played many of these classic ‘30s and ‘40s films. We were night owls in those days, so every evening was spent enthralled by these wonderful classics, imagining ourselves somehow apart of those eras, and very drawn to the style. It was a wonderfully fortunate experience.

~Doc

[edarsenal]

Top Hat (1935)



I became familiar with these movies in the perfect place. Living in Hollywood in the 1960s, the local all-nite L.A. movie channels played many of these classic ‘30s and ‘40s films. We were night owls in those days, so every evening was spent enthralled by these wonderful classics, imagining ourselves somehow apart of those eras, and very drawn to the style. It was a wonderfully fortunate experience.

~Doc

Sounds like some truly wonderful times indeed.

And yes, another great review rich with knowledge!

[ahwell]

Arsenic and Old Lace

This is a hilariously funny crime thriller that mixes together the stories of some murderous aunts, their confused and shocked nephew and his fiance, and his two brothers (one who thinks he is the president and the other who is a serial killer). There is a wide range of great scenes, whether it is Teddy's "Charge!!" and trumpet blasting, or the two sweet aunts speaking of how their murders are "merciful." A really good dark comedy, although the pacing and structure is a bit off.... I wish the movie would have taken a little more time to breathe.

Can't decide between a 3.5 and 4

[ahwell]

Nothing Sacred

I enjoyed watching it, but it just didn't have the charm of some other screwball comedies of the time. I think the acting was great, especially from Lombard, but I don't think the movie knew what it was going for - commentary, a good laugh, both, neither? Maybe it was the quality of the version I watched, because I found it very hard to understand the characters, but it wasn't fun to pay attention to either. That said, there are some good laughs and some great scenes, with perhaps an underlying message about how easy it is to lie and corrupt.

3

[Citizen Rules]

Nothing Sacred

...Maybe it was the quality of the version I watched, because I found it very hard to understand the characters, but it wasn't fun to pay attention to either....rating_3 Yeah I can understand that the quality of a movie video can effect it's enjoyment, it does with me. If anyone needs a good quality link to Nothing Sacred just say so or PM me, the version quality I watched was excellent.

[edarsenal]

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Modern Times


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I have been enamored and endeared to The Little Tramp since very early childhood and that love as remained the entirety of my life.
Along with his humorous escapades, hilarious chase routines, and getting in trouble; there is a lot of heart and soul in a Charlie Chaplin movie. A desire for something more noble and beautiful in a dirty, harsh world. The Tramp (to use a Lebowski term) abides. With many of his films ending in him walking off in his signature gait. Of course, in this one, he is accompanied for the one and only time with his costar, Paulette Goddard. Which definitely says a lot for the Tramp and his countless attempts at love in prior shorts.

While a comedic vehicle, there is a number of statements about humanity and the difficult times of the 30's as the Tramp suffers through them with his penchant smile and charm. No matter how many times he's tossed into the paddy wagon. Whether he was guilty or not. His soul, his heart, remains in tact. Even in the closing of the film, unemployed and homeless, again, he faces it, reminding his now partner, to smile. And off they go.
Giving the audiences of the time, and us, a little more determination to continue on and keep our hearts light doing it.

Bravo Charlie. Bravo!

[edarsenal]

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It's a Gift


Mother: Just use your own judgment.

Daughter: You tell me where to go.

Harold: [muttering] I'd like to tell you both where to go.


The master of the under the breath wisecrack and the reigning hero for the henpecked husband, WC Fields is fate's star crossed husband who can only do wrong. Over and over and over again.
While he doesn't get to return anywhere near what he takes as in other of his comedies this is still a solid film showing his physical comedic talent as well as his "yes, dear" commentary just before sneaking out while being scolded by his never happy spouse.
From dancing around his bobbing daughter as he tries to share a mirror to shave in to his inability to service his customers to just trying to get a moment's bit of sleep, we sympathize and hope for WC Fields' character to finally get his day and to come out, finally, on top.

It's been a number of decades since I've seen this one and very glad to have revisited it.

[ahwell]

Kind Hearts and Coronets

Well, well, we have an even darker comedy than Arsenic and Old Lace. This one is just delightful in its murderous humor, it takes such fun in joy in presenting us with such a likable and interesting young character who just happens to be a murderer as well. I loved all the characters in the movies, all the future dukes and duchesses had interesting quirks and personalities, and both Edith and Sibella were great. The acting was a bit stiff, but it's made up for in the brilliance of the dialogue and character building. The film is also really funny, and I think the memoir style for the film made it very effective and enjoyable.

4

[GulfportDoc]

Modern Times (1936)
Most film historians/reviewers place Modern Times in their lists of top 100 films. Indeed Charlie Chaplain is one of the major figures in film comedy, and his “Little Tramp” is one of the most iconic characters in all of cinema.

Modern Times is unique for several reasons: it is the last appearance of the Little Tramp; it is Chaplain’s last "silent"; it is the first time we hear Chaplain’s voice in a film—albeit only via some gobbledygook lyrics; it’s his only Little Tramp film which featured a full co-star (Paulette Goddard); and it is the first Chaplain film to reveal his political leanings.

The film was very costly, and didn’t recoup it’s expenses at the American box office, although it was very popular in England and Europe. One wonders if audiences weren’t slightly tiring of the Little Tramp and his slapstick antics after 20-plus years as a movie persona.


At nearly 90 minutes in length the picture was the longest Chaplain directed film at the time. Most of his previous comedies had been in the 50-70 minute range. The elaborate and costly sets were very impressive, contributing to the film’s $1.5M budget.


There were some vividly memorable scenes, for example his body winding through the machinery cogs; the scenes after his accidental ingestion of cocaine (which remarkably escaped the censors); his café song and mime routine in which he audibly sings; and the lovely ending in which the he walks off into the sunrise hand in hand with his girlfriend in anticipation of a bright future—a great finale for the Little Tramp.

I’ve always favored Buster Keaton over Chaplain’s comedies. But there’s no denying Chaplain’s importance in the history of comedy films.

~Doc

[Citizen Rules]

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Harvey (Henry Koster,1950)


A 6' 8" invisible rabbit...who knew such a film could be so rewarding! I loved this! I'd seen it only once before many years ago, so it was a real treat to watch again. Gosh, there's so many good things happening in the film that I don't know where to start. Actors: of course, what a cast! could Elwood P. Dowd be played by anyone else than James Stewart? Stewart's wonderful in this and in the DVD extras there was an interview from 1990 with Stewart and he sighted Harvey as one of his own favorite movies. Stewart had been in the stage play of Harvey, and when director Henry Koster made the film he decided to use some of the stage performers which was unusual for the time. Also unusual was the director's choice to literately shoot the film in long master-takes without breaking for close up shots. That way the film had a continuity and energy like the award winning play had.

And what energy the screenplay has! It takes off from the opening when Dowd leaves that neat looking old Victorian home with the heavy pillars and sun room with curved glass...and the film never lulls as it's packed with people and nuances that makes the film a joy to watch. You know what was cool was the interior of the house...no way did I expect to see that curved sun room window from the inside, but surprise, they created it from the interior for a shot during the tea party scene.

Oh, the older eccentric sister Veta Loiuse was played to utter perfection by stage actress Josephine Hull, who had played Veta in the stage play. She was good! So was her desperate to be wed daughter, Myrtle May and the Maytag Repairman Jesse White aka the nut-catcher. What a hoot he was! And I'd be amidst if I didn't give a shout out to one of my fav character actors Cecil Kellaway.

But you know what shines greater than any of the actors or sets or even direction? "The play is the thing." Hitchcock said that once, and it's so true. The play's script was written by Mary Chase who won a Pulitzer Prize and it's her story that makes these people so three dimensional. Even the doctor and nurse have their own subplot of a near-miss romance, which not only adds depth but makes these smaller roles seem so important to the story. And that's what Harvey and Harvey do, they make lemonade out of proverbial lemons.


One of my favs so far in this HoF.

[edarsenal]

Glad to hear it, CR, THANKS!

[Citizen Rules]

Glad to hear it, CR, THANKS!It'll be a tough call for me as to which makes the top of my list, so many great comedies here!

[edarsenal]

It'll be a tough call for me as to which makes the top of my list, so many great comedies here!

we've had an excellent run of HoFs where this has been really tricky, recently.

[Siddon]

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Trouble in Paradise was a rewatch for me, I always knew Lubitsch was good but I never really had a favorite one. This is really a three person story a con man is torn between his lover (conwoman) and a wealthy I thought widow but now I'm not so sure. In Lubistchland all men are in their 40's and 50's and all the women are in their 20's and 30's for me it sort of bogged down the plot a bit.


I was charmed by the story and I enjoyed quite a few of the philosophy from Herbert Mitchell. My big regret is that I wish Kay Francis older or more of her character drawn out. I did however enjoy Miriam Hopkins performance as the girlfriend she definitely made the most out of her screen time.


One of the things I really loved about this film was the cinematography, it has a certain elegance but the camera almost feels like it's own character moving through room after room introducing the characters breaking into random montages that are perfectly sentimental. This was a great movie I just don't know if it was a great comedy.



3.5

[Siddon]

ahwell 12/14 AlexWilder 2/14 Citizen Rules 7/14 edarsenal 9/14 GulfportDoc 10/14 Siddon 3/14
@Nathanial 1/14


44 reviews in so far (98) so we are now at the half-way mark I feel like June 1st would be a good stop date

[Citizen Rules]

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Sherlock Jr. ( Buster Keaton 1924)


Buster Keaton is the man! I've seen him in other stuff and he's always funny! He's my favorite silent era comic actor. He even had a very long acting run working all the way up until the 1960s. I recently seen him in an old episode of the Twilight Zone where he played a man who longed to go back to a simpler time. And he does, and it's back to the early 1900s and they filmed that portion as a silent with title cards!

Buster Keaton could convey so much emotion to us just by the look on his face. I loved the part where he gives his girlfriend a ring, and it's a tiny little diamond! She's not impressed either, but then Keaton takes a magnifying glass out of his pocket and hands it to her, so that the ring will look big to his girl..that was funny!

What I enjoyed the most wasn't the humor, but the creativity, especially those crazy stunts. Shortly into the film Buster who's a film projections falls asleep and dreams he's in the film that he's been watching on the screen. I loved who they did the double exposure that had the sleeping Buster leaving his own body, and getting his trademark straw hat...then the best part is when he leaps onto the silver screen. How cool is that!

As the dream Buster is chased, he quickly goes from the city, to the country, then to the jungle, all done seamlessly. The film is quite a technical feat I mean think about this was done in 1924.

Besides being a talented actor, Buster Keaton was also a skilled director and directed Sherlock Jr. which is pretty damn amazing when you think about it.

[ahwell]

Harvey

This is a great comedy, although not very funny. I loved the fantasy elements, almost a precursor of the horror comedy, although it's not much of horror at all. I actually found Mr. Doud to be a bit of an annoying character, too cheerful all the time, like he was forcing it. But his relationship with Harvey was quite wonderful, and I loved the character interactions. "Now, I'd like you to meet a very dear friend of mine..." he must say that a dozen times in the movie. Overall, it has a great cast of characters and styles, and it was thoroughly enjoyable.

4

[edarsenal]

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Top Hat

Dale Tremont: Madge, have you any objections if I scare your husband so that he'll never look at another woman?
Madge Hardwick: Dale, no husband is ever too scared to look.

While at first this is a very, very good Musical with some terrific dance numbers, it is befitting of the genre of Comedy. Especially with the quick wit of the secondary actors; Edward Everett Horton, Eric Blore and the wonderfully dry sarcasm of Helen Broderick. Even though both Rogers and Astaire do equally well verbally as they do tap dancing to ballroom, I do believe their supporting actors really bring the comedic aspects home quite nicely.
With a typical screwball scenario of Astaire being mistaken by Rogers as a married man, the inevitable love affair hits stumbling block after honorable stumbling block.

I also need to comment on some of the stages they used, especially The Venice set or more accurately, the imagined, glamorized staged interpretation of Venice was pretty d@mn wonderful.

I have taken far FAR too long to have finally seen this "Must See" Rogers and Astaire vehicle and I am so very glad I finally did.

[Citizen Rules]

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Monkey Business (1931)

What's funner than a barrel full of herring, err I mean monkeys...the Marx Brothers! and on a passenger ship to boot:p I love movies set on ships. It's like a whole world apart from the real one, and that works wonders for comedies such as Monkey Business. I know the ship was a set, but they sure had great looking sets. I mean just look at the photo above and it's easy to image they're on the promenade deck, sailing the Atlantic.

Thelma Todd was a peach, and I really liked her in this. It was a treat seeing her as I haven't seen her in much at all. I know she was popular in the precode era, but I wondered why she didn't have more of a movie career...After reading IMDB's trivia I now know why:( What a bummer...Sometimes I regret reading about stars, they shine so brightly that one would think they would be immortal.

Sorry to end on such a dower note.
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[edarsenal]

Your comments caused me to go and read as well.
I'm equal parts sad AND angry about it.

[Citizen Rules]

Your comments caused me to go and read as well.
I'm equal parts sad AND angry about it.I'm still thinking about it myself.

[edarsenal]

I'm still thinking about it myself.

I did know Miss Todd died at an early age but never knew the circumstances to it all.
Just terrible all around.

[Citizen Rules]

I did know Miss Todd died at an early age but never knew the circumstances to it all.
Just terrible all around.I didn't even know so died young. I thought that she was one of the many 1920s early 30s actresses who faded out when a new crop of actors arrived on the scene. I believe she's in another Marx Brothers film, I'd like to see that someday.

[edarsenal]

I didn't even know so died young. I thought that she was one of the many 1920s early 30s actresses who faded out when a new crop of actors arrived on the scene. I believe she's in another Marx Brothers film, I'd like to see that someday.

yep Horse Feathers (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023027/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_52), some great skits in that one.

[Siddon]

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Arsenic and Old Lace, Cary Grant plays a bachelor who decides to get married he ends up in his childhood home with his two aunts, his crazy brother. While at his home he discovers that his aunts are running a sort of euthanasia program of sorts doing away with burdensome elderly men who answer their ads. While at his childhood home his other brother the one who doesn't think he's Teddy Roosevelt escapes from prison with an alcoholic doctor (Peter Lorre) he's just your normal run of the mill serial killer.



I'm sorry but I really don't like these sorts of movies. The problem is that each comedy bit is sort of strung together but often times the bits feel forced and the characters feel fake. Cary Grant's character is in almost every scene of the film and Mortimer becomes a tiresome figure. Of every five jokes or so only one really landed for me. The other problem is the serial killer Jonathan who is supposed to be Boris Karloff isn't nearly as good as Karloff and even though they keep bringing up Karloff it still doesn't work. I wonder if the film would have been better if Priscilla Lane (the wife) had a bigger role in the plot. Often times it felt like characters would just randomly walk off into another room and just come in when it was time to do something funny. It was very difficult for me to track the movements and motivations of the characters in the film.


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[Citizen Rules]

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It's a Gift (1934)


Cool nomination as it's not a well known film and today W.C. Fields is like Rodney Dangerfield in that he...'gets no respect.' ...I've only seen one other Fields' movie and that's the riotously funny My Little Chickadee (1940) with Mae West. I like W.C. Fields but he wasn't at his best here. The first part of the film dragged and it seemed stilted and staged and I didn't find anything funny about it. Some of the actors most notably his daughter couldn't act and were flat in the delivery of their lines. Though she was pretty enough, so I forgave her:p The wife was good!

I have to say the blind man gag was cringe worthy. Even back in 1934 that must have felt like an old, stale vaudevillian gag, not funny.....BUT the film did get funny and I did laugh once they headed out west to the orange orchard. The picnic scene on a rich man's estate was hilarious. I loved how they made a HUGE mess with their garbage. And the crackers falling on the little boys head was hilarious, even more so when they fell into his mouth. OK that was inspired comedy, but too bad most of the film felt like a cake walk.

[GulfportDoc]

Harvey (1950)


Harvey is first and foremost a “sweet” film; a whimsical, gentle, good natured slice of life. It’s not really as much of a comedy as it is an amusing charmer. In other words it’s a film which could never be made today.

Everyone is familiar with the premise: Elwood P. Dowd is an unemployed middle aged man who lives with his elder sister and niece in a small town middle American home, who happens to be able to see a 6’ 3.5” rabbit who he calls Harvey. Everyone around him accepts his eccentricity, which is the product of either alcohol or mild schizophrenia-- never thought to be important enough to specifically address.

Dowd is coaxed into an asylum, but in the end he is released to his own familiar world, as others have begun to see Harvey too. We are left to suspect that those who are able to see Harvey are in fact gentle accepting people whose ideals are able to rise above the dog-eat-dog world.

Directed by Henry Kostner, who had helmed The Bishop’s Wife, and went on to do popular films such as a My Man Godfrey remake and Mr. Hobbs Takes a Vacation, the Dowd character was reported to be Stewart’s favorite role of all his movies. It’s easy to see why. Dowd is very reminiscent of Stewart’s own character and easy-going personality.

There was excellent work by the inimitable Josephine Hull as Dowd’s sister Veta, who won the film’s only Oscar (best supporting actress). Hull had provided a relatively similar --albeit less demanding-- role in Arsenic and Old Lace. The lovely Peggy Dow, born and educated in Mississippi, was delightful as Nurse Kelly. The reliable Cecil Kellawy and Wallace Ford contributed to a nicely rounded cast.

Harvey is the very definition of a “classic”; a film that has chipped out an instantly recognizable niche in the history of American cinema.

~Doc

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Duck Soup


Rufus T. Firefly: Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did.

With the Marx Brothers at their most craziest, this ranks at a VERY close second to my all time favorite, Night at the Opera (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0026778/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1). The nuthouse is now an open house and the nuts run the country.
There are quite a number of great skits throughout this film. Most well known is the Mirror Skit as Harpo, disguised as Groucho, pantomines him from the other side of a very recently broken mirror.
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Another favorite of mine is the torment that Edgar Kennedy goes through as the Lemonade Vendor; as a kid I simply loved Chico and Harpo giving him hell and now I really appreciate Kennedy's ability to play the foil with such skill and frustration.

As I've said, this is one of my favorites of a Marx Brothers fanboy and a d@mn fine addition to this HoF!

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Top Hat (Mark Sandrich, 1935)

So glad this was nominated. I say that a lot! Well, that's because I've enjoyed the diversity in this HoF, a lot of great noms here!...If you learn one thing about my movie taste it's that I love old musicals. I'm talking really old like 1930-1959, other years are good too, of course. But I love the really old musicals as they have a certain charm that went out of style after the 1950s.

There's nobody smoother on the dance floor than Fred Astaire. Astaire is the man! He's easy to relate to as he's not the tall, handsome leading man type. Let's face it he's a bit different looking. I mean Fred Astaire is no ladies man and yet he's perfect as he's likeable and we can relate to him, as he has to work at winning the girl.


And what a girl he wins! Ginger Rogers...goes with Fred Astaire like ice goes with cream. Sure Fred had different female dance partners over the years and some were better dancers than Ginger, but none of them had the down to earth charm that Ginger has. And yes she can dance up a storm too. Ginger and Fred are legendary.

I'd seen Top Hat before, but it had been over a decade...My favorite number was the second dance number No Strings (I'm Fancy Free) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Strings_(I%27m_Fancy_Free)) with Fred Astaire doing a noisy tap dance in the hotel room above a slumbering Ginger. Loved the choreography which was lose and light and so full of optimistic exuberance. The second part of that with the sand dance was clever too, loved the soft shoe, and the art deco hotel room set was a great place to dance in!

The next music number with Fred and Ginger taking cover from the rain in a band stand gazebo in Isn't This a Lovely Day (to be Caught in the Rain) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isn%27t_This_a_Lovely_Day%3F) was my other favorite. Lots of charm and innovation in this number. Actually all the music/dance numbers are beautifully staged and quite unique. A big shout out to the great Irving Berlin who wrote the music numbers (melody and lyrics).


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Did I mention that Venice set, wow! I read that it was 300 feet long and took up two entire sound stages. Nowadays with CG everywhere, it might be hard for those use to modern movies to be impressed by a set like that, and that's a shame as the craftsmanship and artistry that was put into movies like Top Hat was half of their charm. The rest of the charm came from the beauty and glamour of it all. Great nom.




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[edarsenal]

Finished off Nothing Sacred and The Lavender Hill Mob which I enjoyed both of very much. Just need to write them up and this will leave me with Sherlock Jr and that'll do it for me.

[Siddon]

Finished off Nothing Sacred and The Lavender Hill Mob which I enjoyed both of very much. Just need to write them up and this will leave me with Sherlock Jr and that'll do it for me.


Pretty sure Sherlock Jr is going to be disqualified having seen AlexWilder in a month

[Nathaniel]

Pretty sure Sherlock Jr is going to be disqualified having seen AlexWilder in a month

Just watched It's a Gift and True Confession. I'll have those reviews up later.

Got some free time this week to catch up but I'll hold off on Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise for now.

Is June 1st when we're finishing?

[Siddon]

Just watched It's a Gift and True Confession. I'll have those reviews up later.

Got some free time this week to catch up but I'll hold off on Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise for now.

Is June 1st when we're finishing?


I think so...real pity about Trouble in Paradise as I think that was a contender to win it all.

[ahwell]

The Lavender Hill Mob

This movie was overall okay. I wish they would have expanded more on the characters and ideas of the heist, and I think the last part dragged a lot more. But the ending was just great, where we see the final reveal with the police officer. I liked the structure as well. But something just didn't hold my attention, I found myself dozing off a bit during some of the dialogue parts. But not at all bad, I just wish they could have made it a bit more interesting.

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[Citizen Rules]

June 1st as a deadline is no problem for me, I only have 3 left and should be done real soon.

[ahwell]

Finished with my list sent. I loved both Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise, I’m sad I didn’t get to vote for them...

[Siddon]

Finished with my list sent. I loved both Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise, I’m sad I didn’t get to vote for them...


Yeah hopefully someone who loved Trouble in Paradise will nominate it for the 19th Hall of Fame which should start off in the next week or so.

[Nathaniel]

Just watched It's a Gift and True Confession. I'll have those reviews up later.

Got some free time this week to catch up but I'll hold off on Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise for now.

Is June 1st when we're finishing?


I think so...real pity about Trouble in Paradise as I think that was a contender to win it all.

June 1st works for me.

I had Trouble in Paradise on my 30s countdown list. It would have been contending for my top spot.

[edarsenal]

from the sound of it, and I agree, Trouble in Paradise had every opportunity to take 1st or at least top 3 easy.
Shame! :(

[GulfportDoc]

The Lavender Hill Mob (1951)

A paradoxical title leads us into this wonderful farcical crime comedy. The story is clever enough-- the writers reportedly having been advised by the Bank of England on how to steal and export gold bullion. But it is the near flawless acting from heavyweights Alec Guinness and Stanley Holloway, with journeyman support from the recognizable Sidney James, along with Alfie Bass, that helps carry the picture. There’s even an early cameo from Audrey Hepburn in her first speaking roll in a big film. Every nuance is expressed perfectly by Guinness and Holloway, almost making the dialogue irrelevant.

But the dialogue is relevant, and we’re supplied with an occasional bit of help from a narrator to set the scenario. Briefly: a meek bank clerk dreams up a way to steal bullion from his bank, export it to France, and live out his life in South America. His main associate (Holloway) is able to facilitate disguising the bullion. Along the way they enlist the help of two seasoned burglars.

There is fascinating photography, especially of the cityscapes in London. There’s even an impressive chase scene through the city’s streets and avenues, which is one of the earliest of its type to my memory.

It seems that in the English speaking world of film, the Brits dominated the wacky comedy style during the 1950s. To be sure, there were memorable comedy films from the U.S. in that era, but they were often situational or sexually suggestive type comedies. There were dozens of hilarious films from Ealing and other Brit studios, for example 1955’s The Lady Killers with Guinness and Peter Sellers; and my all time favorite, The Green Man (1956), with Alistair Sim and Terry-Thomas. In the U.S. we didn’t really see much wacky comedy of the Brit type until the early 1960s, for example It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World (1963).

It’s interesting to note that there was no Hays type code in the U.K. at the time. The writers could have easily had the thieves get away with their crime. But reportedly the studio was worried that the film would have been kept out of the American market due to the code, so that was kept in mind during production.

If folks haven’t yet seen this classic crime comedy, they ought to consider treating themselves to a rental or other method of watching. This cast and crew really know how it’s done.

~Doc

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Nothing Sacred


Dr. Enoch Downer: [Speaking to Wally Cook] You're a newspaperman. I can smell 'em. I've always been able to smell 'em. Excuse me while I open the window?

This has been a very delightful new film for me. Enjoying Lombard even more than I have in the past. Well, not as much as I did in Virtue, but pretty d@mn close. Chuckling quite often throughout the film at this screwball comedy that pokes fun at, not only the media, but at us, the public that gets caught up in the moment of a "heartbreak story" with a mistaken belief of a woman who is supposed to be dying of radium poisoning.
From this little dark premise is some lighthearted humor along with a few physical comedy mixed into the mix.
It doesn't necessarily go overboard and retains it's charm throughout. Especially with two of the secondary characters; the editor, Oliver Stone (especially when in a rage) played by Walter Connolly and the occasionally tipsy Dr. Enoch Downer played by Charles Winninger.
And speaking of doctors, I can't forget to mention the cameo of character actor Sig Ruman playing Dr. Emil Eggelhoffer. Whom I've enjoyed in so many flicks in the past.

This is one of those hidden gems that I love to discover in these HoFs.
Thank you, CR!

[Citizen Rules]

Glad you liked it Ed and if you cross your fingers Santa Citizen just might bring you another Carole Lombard Hof nom in the near future:p

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Not even going to try and describe the plot of His Girl Friday the dialogue and action move along so quickly that it feels like you have to watch this film four or five times to understand what the hell is going on. Anyways the barebones plot of the story is Cary Grant doesn't want to lose his wife to an insurance salesman from Albany. They decide to get into one last case about a bookkeeper who killed a policeman. After that yeah I was pretty much completely lost.


The film is funny and the characters are charming, I laughed quite a bit which then proceeded to me to have to go back and rewatch and find out what I missed. Grant was charming though I feel like Rosalind Russell stole the show (and I could track her character) the supporting ones good luck.


No clue with how many stars I would give this one probably won't decide until I put together my final list.

[Citizen Rules]

Not even going to try and describe the plot of His Girl Friday the dialogue and action move along so quickly that it feels like you have to watch this film four or five times to understand what the hell is going on. Very true, the first time I seen His Girl Friday I liked it, but I was confused by the complicated plot and fast breaking dialogue. However with each rewatch I got more and more out of the movie. I'll be watching it again for the 4th time for this HoF. Looking forward to a seeing it again.

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I feel like Rosalind Russell stole the show (and I could track her character) the supporting ones good luck.

Yeah, she pretty much stole it for me too. Loved her in this.

[Citizen Rules]

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Arsenic and Old Lace (Frank Capra, 1944)


I've watched this now three times! I'm a huge fan of Cary Grant and of Frank Capra films...and Prisillia Lane is sure easy on the eyes. And despite all those pluses, each time that I've watched Arsenic and Old Lace I dislike it a bit more. I find it a bore to get through and last night's viewing was no different. The movie seemed to drag on and on. I assume it drags for me because I'm bored and I'm bored because I don't have any connection or caring for the characters or their situations. It all seems so cartoon like, it seems so forced and so contrived. It's what's called 'broad comedy' which is my least favorite type of comedy.

Arsenic and Old Lace reminds me of the old Abbott and Costello films, gawd I hate those! It's comedy is chiefly composed of the director going for extreme close ups of the actors hamming it up for the camera...as if to tell the audience that they just seen something humorous. Instead of the comedy coming naturally or from clever writing, it's all force feed to us by mugging actors.

Cary Grant is one of the greatest comic actors of all time, but he's just annoying in his over acting here. But it's not his fault, I read that Frank Capra kept asking for retakes and telling the actors to make it even more broader. Even Cary Grant disliked his own performance. I've enjoyed Prisillia Lane in other movies but here she basically gets to do nothing but a few mugging close ups at the camera.

But what really doesn't work is the casting of Raymond Massey as the heavy. On Broadway, Boris Karloff did the role and helped to make the play a success. He wanted to do the film but couldn't get out of his stage play contract. If he had done the film he would have added a lighter touch to the roll. Even when playing bad guys Karloff comes off as intelligent and thoughtful albeit still evil. Raymond Massey however was way, way too intense for a comedy of this type. He played the role as if it was a edge of your seat thriller.

About the only high light of the movie for me is Peter Lorre. Lorre adds a sympathetic and comic touch to his character. Arsenic and Old Lace is my lest favorite Capra film that I've seen.

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The Lavender Hill Mob (1951)


A good one! I rather liked this and I'd seen it before too. It's one of those films that make for a good rewatch as it has this easy to like flow to it, and of course Alec Guinness is very amiable as well. I loved the sets like the one shown above in the work shop room and the boarding house set. There's just something charming about those old boarding houses and the quaint old ladies who usually run them. Visually for me the highlight was the Eiffel Tower scenes with the mad dash down the service stairs being quite dizzying and visually striking. That scene with the revolving background reminded me of Hitchcock's work. In fact the entire movie could have been made by Hitchcock in his early British film making days. Hitch's The Lady Vanishes would pair well with The Lavender Hill Mob.

Did you guys spot Audrey? I thought that might be her look a-like (Maggie McNamara) but my wife knew it was Audrey...Loved the way the opening and closing scenes nicely framed the movie and gave a satisfying ending to a charming story.

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@citizenrules, if you haven't seen The Green Man (1956), you really must. It stars Alistair Sim, Terry-Thomas, George Cole, and Jill Adams. I can almost guarantee you that you'll get a few large guffaws.

I hope it's not hard to find. Years ago I sleuthed down a videocassette of it, which I still hang on to. Now it should be grabable on some streaming or other...:cool:

~Doc

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His Girl Friday(1940)
Arsenic and Old Lace(1944)

I’m finishing up HOF commentary with these two films because they’re two of my favorites, and also because they both start Cary Grant. Grant was arguably the best comedy/dramatic actor in the 1940s and ‘50s, starring in many films that showcased his natural talents. His range runs from subtle sly humor up to broad slapstick, and it seemed effortless for him to change from one to the other. His entire palette is on display in these two classics.

His Girl Friday is one of the great classic screwball comedies, itself a remake of The Front Page (1931) with Adolph Menjou and Pat O’Brien. In “Friday”, they changed the sex of Pat O’Brien’s Hildy Johnson character to a female, and cast the electric Rosalind Russell against Cary Grant’s Walter Burns. The pairing turned out to be one of the all time best. Ralph Bellamy played Hildy’s hapless fiance who can’t seem to accomplish their marriage.

The Howard Hawks directed barn burner flies by in a flurry of machine gun dialogue and goofy setups. Hawks reportedly went over budget by insisting on take after take to get the actors to speed up their lines ever quicker. Hawks reportedly wanted Clark Gable for the role Grant played, and Gable would have been great. But it’s hard to imagine anyone barking out dialogue as quickly and humorously as did Grant. Russell was down the list of stars desired for Hildy, but her performance kept up the pace perfectly with Grant. If anything she was a little too hard nosed. Hawks had wanted Carole Lombard for the part, and she would have fit the bill while displaying more feminine softness.

Although Frank Capra’s Arsenic and Old Lace does not quite rise to the level of lightning banter as in “Friday”, it’s close, and there is plenty of wackiness. It is a black comedy that sports a cast of some of the best in the business: Grant, Jack Carson, Raymond Massey, Peter Lorre, Priscilla Lane, James Gleason, Edward Everett Horton, Josephine Hull, and John Alexander.

Cary Grant again plays a newspaperman, but in this story we don’t see him at the newsroom. He’s just been married, and has taken his bride to visit his elderly aunts in Brooklyn. He discovers to his horror that his aunts have been poisoning old men, and having his crazy brother bury them in the basement. Most of the story is how Grant’s character tries to hide the circumstances from his new wife, all the while dealing with various and sundry relative and other characters who insert themselves into the action. There are numerous hilarious discoveries and send ups which ultimately culminate in a happy ending for all.

There was some criticism that Capra had pushed his actors to go too far “over the top” in their portrayals, especially the Grant and Carson roles. And in fact Capra had intended to go back and soften some of the most embellished scenes. But as the principal photography was winding down, the Japanese attack of Pearl Harbor occurred, causing Capra to hurry on to military matters. The movie was not released until 1944.

Despite having different directors and writers, “Friday” and “Arsenic” have several things in common. Both were screwball comedies; Grant’s character in each was a New York newspaper man; both casts were tasked with exceeding their normal abilities; there were references to popular actors of the day in the dialogue (“ you look like Ralph Bellamy” and “look like Boris Karloff”); both scripts were warned to be toned down a little by the Production Code; in the original Front Page script, when the fugitive sticks his head out from the rolltop desk Walter Burns (Grant) refers to him as a “Goddamn turtle”, but in “Friday” the line is changed to “mock turtle”; in “Arsenic” Grant’s (Mortimer’s) last line is “I’m the son of a sea cook”, but the real line was “I’m a bastard”--- censored by the Code.

His Girl Friday stands the test of time slightly more so than does Arsenic and Old Lace, but both are prime examples of first rate comedy productions from Hollywood’s golden age.

~Doc

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Lavender Hill Mob is a crime caper with some humorous elements to it, it's actually somewhat tricky to grade because as a film it's a four star movie but as a comedy I didn't laugh once and that's a problem.


It's a beautifully shot film and Alec Guinness is very good as a bank teller who is tired of taking care of other peoples money. I really wish the film was paced differently perhaps more with the first act and less with the second one. I think you could have mined some good humor with the motivations for Guiness to make this heist and it would prop up the comedy.

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Top Hat really is a jack of all trades type film, it tells a fairly simple story about a confirmed bachelor who decides he wants to get with a girl. The girl isn't interested until she is and then she believes the man is someone else (who is married). Top Hat is beautifully shot and written the songs are great, the one liners are amazing and the physical comedy is great.



I think this is Astaires best comedic work his one liners and body language are on point here more so than in other work he has.

[Citizen Rules]

Lavender Hill Mob...somewhat tricky to grade because as a film it's a four star movie but as a comedy I didn't laugh once and that's a problem... Several movies for me where top notch films and might go to the top of my voting list, but I didn't find them funny...So if I grade on what's funny, then they get bumped down some. I watched the last film and will write a review soon.

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Duck Soup is a cute little slap stick comedy, I suppose this is considered the best of the Marx brothers films but I didn't care for it. I supposed I've seen it and parts of it too many times to really get into the story. The problem with Duck Soup is it's the Groucho Marx show and Harpo and Chico don't really fit into the main narrative. This is the story of a corrupt politician dealing with other corrupt politicians who decide to fake a war for reasons. The plot doesn't really matter in films like this it's the comedy first and if the plot tracks and makes sense that's a bonus.



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Monkey Business on the other hand I particularly enjoyed. This felt more like an ensemble work. The story is less cohesive as the boys are stowaways running around a ship avoiding capture. By doing this the collective was able to play to their strengths, even Zeppo who was typically relegated to straight man parts was given some good work to do.



You've got a B-plot with gangsters and it's all fine and good but the film shines for me with the Harpo mime scenes, both at the barber shoppe and the punch and judy show which I found both part hilarious.


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[Citizen Rules]

Yeah that's how I felt about both Marx Brother's films. I liked Monkey Business pretty well, but wasn't into Duck Soup.

[Citizen Rules]

His Girl Friday, I watched this last night. And as it's my last nom to watch, I thought it would be interesting if I posted my old review from the 1940s Hof Part 2....And then, without reading my old review, write my current thoughts on the film.


From the 1940s HoF Part 2...
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His Girl Friday (1940)

What color do you think the hat and blazer that Rosalind Russell is wearing is? On the DVD cover it was purple with stripes. I suspect it wasn't as gaudy looking as it's been colored to be, and was probably gray with black stripes. It's a very odd looking outfit, but it wasn't chose randomly, they never do that in movies. It was selected for a reason and I'd venture a guess that it was the 1940's version of a 'power suit'. Rosalind certainly looks commanding in it and it gives her a sense of showmanship....and that's what this film is about, showmanship!

The title His Girl Friday sounds somewhat demeaning to Hilda (Rosalind Russell), it sounds like Hilda is just a skirt in an office full of old crusty newspaper men and her only job is to powder her nose and make coffee for the boys. Uh uh...not true, Hilda is a self made woman. Make no mistake about it, she's in control of the situation and not Walther (Cary Grant). She knows her mind and knows how to write a news story that cooks! All the boys in the newsroom are in awe of her gutsy anything-for-a-story journalist skills. Hilda's a power house and if anything this is a movie that empowers women. So the title is kind of funny, cause Hilda's nobody's lackey.

I read that this has some of the fastest dialogue spoken in a film at 240 words a minute! Add to that, this early example of actors deliberately speaking over each others lines, all while ad libbing over an already fast paced script and you get one helluva a unique film that takes one's full attention to fully follow it. I read that Quentin Tarantino is a fan of this movie, I can see why.

There's two things that makes this movie special: the witty banter and intense chemistry from Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell. Oh and Ralph Bellamy plays the straight man to a tee.

His Girl Friday is so complex in it's dialogue that I feel I missed some of the more subtle witticisms. The first witty word play comes during the title credits...did you spot it?

This was one of the 77 movies I had consider nominating, so I'm glad to see it here. Oh...I plan on watching this one again before the Hof is over.


OK, I did not read any of that! I promise! I'm interested to see if after last nights viewing if my thoughts have changed...and here they are:

May 16, 2019...His Girl Friday

Wow that opening scene with the overlapping, rapid fire dialogue that's laced with witty banter, makes the movie special for me! I love movies with brilliant dialogue and His Girl Friday delivers the goods in double time. That opening scene where Hildy goes to tell Walter that she's marrying someone else, is professional acting at it's best. The amount of lines that both actors deliver and without an edit is freaking amazing! That was one long scene and damn impressive to boot.


I'd read that different actresses were considered for Hilda Johnson, but I can't see anyone doing what Rosalind Russell did. She's flat out amazing in this and the perfect casting choice for the unscrupulous, gung-ho news reporter who has a rep for getting the story, at any cost. And Cary Grant has never been in finer form than in this movie. Cary and Rosalind have a chemistry it's like they're dialed in on each other and you can see their acting is in quick response to the other actors actions. And I believed they were a divorced couple who still loved each other while driving each other batty. Kudos to the great director Howard Hawks for that scene and many others as well.

I loved the dinner scene too, Grant's character was so cleverly sneaky as he tried to screw up the wedding plans of Hildy and Bruce (Ralph Bellamy). His henchman Louie (Abner Bierberman) was great in this too. I loved the whole unscrupulous, cut throat world of the newspaper...it made for a great story. But what really made the story was the cutting social commentary, especially when it targeted the corrupt Sheriff who was so sleazy that he was willing to let a man hang just so he could get more votes.

I have to say I was taking back a bit when poor Helen Mack who in a moment of distress jumps out a window to the payment below. That wasn't funny, but it did show how the newsmen could ruin lives by their yellow journalism and the lies that they printed.

His Girl Friday is one part: fast paced screw ball comedy...and one part biting social commentary on the sleazy world of politics and news. A movie that's relevant for today.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm finished and have sent in my voting list. How's everyone else doing?

[edarsenal]

sent my vote in, STILL need to post my review on Lavender Hill

[GulfportDoc]

I'm finished and have sent in my voting list. How's everyone else doing?
Whoops! I've been finished with the film commentaries, but I didn't realize we were supposed to send in a vote as well. I must have thought that the entire forum got to vote.

Do we just select no. 1, or the first 3, or rank them all?

Do we send it to Siddon?

[ahwell]

Whoops! I've been finished with the film commentaries, but I didn't realize we were supposed to send in a vote as well. I must have thought that the entire forum got to vote.

Do we just select no. 1, or the first 3, or rank them all?

Do we send it to Siddon?

Yes, rank all of them, and send them in a PM to Siddon.

[Citizen Rules]

Whoops! I've been finished with the film commentaries, but I didn't realize we were supposed to send in a vote as well. I must have thought that the entire forum got to vote.

Do we just select no. 1, or the first 3, or rank them all?

Do we send it to Siddon?Siddon is the host so he will calculate the points received for each of the movies based on our voting list.

#1 on your list is the film you feel most deserving of winning this Comedy Hof, then #2 on down to least deserving movie at the bottom of your list at #12.

Remember two films where disqualified: Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise so don't include those on your voting list.

Like Ahwell said, PM your voting list to Siddon and keep it private until after the HoF. After Siddon reveals the final results, then it's tradition for the members to post their voting list.

[GulfportDoc]

Siddon is the host so he will calculate the points received for each of the movies based on our voting list.

#1 on your list is the film you feel most deserving of winning this Comedy Hof, then #2 on down to least deserving movie at the bottom of your list at #12.

Remember two films where disqualified: Sherlock Jr and Trouble in Paradise so don't include those on your voting list.

Like Ahwell said, PM your voting list to Siddon and keep it private until after the HoF. After Siddon reveals the final results, then it's tradition for the members to post their voting list.
Thanks, Ahwell and CR. I just now sent in my list to Siddon.

A couple of comments: My personal ranking of these films was based exclusively on the comedy criterion, and tried not to make it a "best picture" ranking. In other words several of the pictures may be better films overall, but may not be as funny as some of the truer comedies.

Also, I've noticed a tendency for reviewers to base their judgements of the comedy value of a movie based upon today's standards. In my case I tried to reserve a portion of my judgement for what was likely funny during the era in which each particular movie came out.

Obviously some of the gags and humor from films of 60 or 80 years ago, which were fresh and hilarious then, have by the 21st Century become pretty passe, or even peculiar. Therefore, personally I tried to keep that in mind.

~Doc

[Citizen Rules]

...A couple of comments: My personal ranking of these films was based exclusively on the comedy criterion, and tried not to make it a "best picture" ranking. In other words several of the pictures may be better films overall, but may not be as funny as some of the truer comedies.That's exactly how I did my voting list too.


Also, I've noticed a tendency for reviewers to base their judgements of the comedy value of a movie based upon today's standards. In my case I tried to reserve a portion of my judgement for what was likely funny during the era in which each particular movie came out.:up: I've noticed that some judge older movies by today's societal standards as well as today's movie making styles. I try to judge films against the times that they were made in.


Glad you could join, Doc!

[edarsenal]

I try to do the same as well. Keeping in mind the decade of the film when it comes to overall appreciation while at the same time on the overall enjoyment of the film itself.

[Citizen Rules]

I try to do the same as well. Keeping in mind the decade of the film when it comes to overall appreciation while at the same time on the overall enjoyment of the film itself. I was real happy with the HoF and the diversity of comedy styles we watched. :up: to all the noms.

[GulfportDoc]

I was real happy with the HoF and the diversity of comedy styles we watched. :up: to all the noms.
I wonder, has everyone gotten in their commentaries and rankings? There's another week before the deadline.

[Citizen Rules]

I wonder, has everyone gotten in their commentaries and rankings? There's another week before the deadline. On the 1st post there are links to the member's reviews and in that way we can see how everyone is doing. And they appear to have a whole bunch of films left to watch.

[Siddon]

Well I've got one movie to go and three writes up to erm...write.


Nathanial has two write-ups and nine movies to go but he always finishes at the tale end


Alex Wilder has been disqualified


and I've received 4 ballots


So that's what's going on.

[Siddon]

https://theblondeatthefilm.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/nothing-sacred-40.jpg?w=800


Writers apparently made quite a bit of money in 1930's New York. Anyways Nothing Sacred is the story of a down on his luck writer who finds a woman dying of Radon poisoning in Vermont. Fredric March is the lead in this screwball comedy and I was little surprised by that because I never saw him as a comic actor. Sometimes Lombard goes a bit over the top, but really that is more of a quibble.


The strength of this film is the pacing, it starts off strong and finishes strong. Vermont is treated like this backwards Hillbilly town(which is funny in and of itself) but when the ruse is discovered we get a series of powerful comedic bits that plays for the entire third act. Now some of the humor hasn't exactly aged well but I think it's important to remember the time period and not to judge the film too harshly for that.


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[edarsenal]

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The Lavender Hill Mob

[Henry Holland is reading aloud to the elderly Mrs. Chalk from a book titled YOU'D LOOK SWELL IN A SHROUD]
Henry Holland: Where did we get?
Mrs. Chalk: Duke Milligan was about to take a gander at Mickey the Greek's hideout.
Henry Holland: Oh yes, here we are. "I handed my fedora to a hatcheck girl with all that Venus de Milo had got and then more, and I was admiring the more when I glimpsed something in the back of this frail that set my underwear creeping up on me like it had legs."
Mrs. Chalk: I know that feeling well.

I do feel I kind of throw this little statement out, quite often. And while I would prefer NOT to, it is an apt description. This IS a rather charming film.

Not simply due to Sir Alec, which, yes, he is quite that. It also goes to the rest of the ensemble, the dry British wit and polite dialogue between everyone.Even when agitated. There still remains a semblance of courteousness that permeates the film that is, well. . .
It's f@ckin charming, alright?

It's a great little story with the opening scene tying quite nicely to the closing scene and moves along quite lovely throughout. With the introduction of Alec Guinness' Henry Holland, a precise, meticulous officer of the bank that oversees the reoccurring transfer via van of gold bars.
Mr. Holland has been calculating the possibility of theft while awaiting the actual means to do it. Which arrives in the form of a new neighbor at his boarding house.

I really enjoyed the two thieves they procure to assist them. Especially the initial conversation in the warehouse as the two thieves start talking shop with one another.

While I did not break out in laughter, I did find quite a number of scenes quite amusing. The above scene, the failed attempts at teaching one of them to ride a bike.
Holland insisting on getting tied up after the van is nicked, only to go a stumbling outside, onto the dock and off the pier. In front of police.
Enjoyed the chase with the police, as well. Especially when the huge mob of them were trying to make their way through the back area of the museum (?).

Definitely a fun, and, screw it, I'm gonna say it again, quite the charming bit of film.

[Siddon]

So I'm operating under the assumption that @Nathanial is gone for good, I have to redo the math and do my write-ups we'll do the reveal Thursday

[Citizen Rules]

So I'm operating under the assumption that @Nathanial is gone for good, I have to redo the math and do my write-ups we'll do the reveal Thursday Did anyone else not finish besides Nathanial and Alexwilder?

[Siddon]

Did anyone else not finish besides Nathanial and Alexwilder?


Everyone else finished, I still have to write up It's a Gift and Modern Times (Guess I don't have to do Kind Hearts and Coronets) and then I have to redo the math.

[edarsenal]

While it's always a shame when someone is unable to finish, but there's a little more when the nomination is really good.

Look forward to the reveal. It's been a great speciality HoF

[GulfportDoc]

While it's always a shame when someone is unable to finish, but there's a little more when the nomination is really good.

Look forward to the reveal. It's been a great speciality HoF
Ditto. Siddon is doing a nice job. I'm a little surprised that we didn't get more folks nominating. Perhaps having to write some commentary on each limited the interest. It'll be interesting to see the results.

~Doc

[Citizen Rules]

Ditto. Siddon is doing a nice job. I'm a little surprised that we didn't get more folks nominating. Perhaps having to write some commentary on each limited the interest... That written commentary is important to HoFs and goes back to the very 1st Hof. Without the members doing a write up of the noms, it would be a movie tournament.

[Siddon]

It's a Gift and Modern Times are basically the same movie told in different styles and at different places in each characters lives. It's a Gift is the story of a middleaged grocer who is about to come into money and is deeply unhappy with his middle class life. Modern Times is the story of a poor lonely factory worker who loses a job he's not really good at to begin with.



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Both films take the same themes and express them differently. In Modern Times technology is played off as something magican...and yet faulty and broken. It's a Gift looks at the role of technology as being something burdensome because it's often faulty and broken. Same joke just told from a different perspective. Chaplin loves the visual medium of film, he enjoys metaphors while Fields (who wrote the film under the pseudonym) loves wordplay sadly I think most of Fields best jokes went over most of your heads.


"Never sleep on the right side of the bed...bad for the heart"


So think about that joke for a minute, what Fields is trying to say is that you have to let the wife go to bed thinking she's right otherwise you're going to end up miserable. Ellen the female protagonist is starving and steals a loaf of bread, the Tramp takes the fall for him and this causes her to fall in love. It's the same idea just told in a different way.


They also end at very similar yet different points, in Modern Times they are together so they can be happy in It's a Gift once Harold comes into money his troubles leave him because his family can leave him alone.

[edarsenal]

Liked how you did a comparative review, Siddon.
Great bit of insight on a few things that I never completely acknowledged. Nicely done!
Especially the endings. . . Chaplin expressing the Idea of Love: if you're together that's ALL that matters. While Fields goes with Reality of Love: you want to be happy, make the spouse and kids happy and they'll leave you alone so you can be happy. lol

[Siddon]

@edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536), Citizen Rules, GulfportDoc, @ahwell (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=101613)


Okay guys winner reveal will be in about a half hour/hour

[edarsenal]

I may have timed this just right. I'll be around for this

[Siddon]

Coming in 10 place is ....




















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Nobody because we have a tie for Ninth place

[edarsenal]

lol

[Siddon]

T-9th



True Confession (20pts)



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(9, 4, 3, 3, 1)







T-9th


It's a Gift (20pts)



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ab/WCF_It%27s_a_Gift_1934.jpg/220px-WCF_It%27s_a_Gift_1934.jpg
(9, 4, 3, 2, 2)

[edarsenal]

these were my 9th It's a Gift and 8th True Confessions spots.
Not out of dislike, there wasn't a single movie I didn't enjoy.

[Siddon]

Coming in 8th Place








Top Hat (21 pts)
https://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/top-hat-1935/large_ltPxlajqLOokKahBG8LXBnCESXk.jpg

(6, 6, 6, 2, 1)

[edarsenal]

and Top Hat came in at #10 for me. Again, not out of dislike, just ended on the bottom of a great list of films.

[Siddon]

Coming in 7th Place




Harvey 23 pts




https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51YDMxCciYL._SY445_.jpg
(7, 5, 5, 5, 1)

[edarsenal]

and here's an excellent proof of such a great list, this is one of my noms, and I had it at #6.

[Siddon]

Coming in 6th Place








Monkey Business (27 points)



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/59/02/e35902548f5b7cc3d7e9a653925d250e.jpg
(8, 8, 5, 5, 1)

[edarsenal]

and my second nom I had at #3.

Interesting voting. A lot of similar votes. two 8s and two 5s here, the last had three 5s and the one before three 6s.

[Siddon]

Coming in 5th Place






Arsenic and Old Lace (31 pts)

https://www.filmsite.org/posters/arsenicandol.jpg
(10, 7, 7, 5, 2)

[gbgoodies]

Coming in 7th Place




Harvey 23 pts




https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51YDMxCciYL._SY445_.jpg
(7, 5, 5, 5, 1)


I expected Harvey to place higher than this.

[Siddon]

Coming in 4th Place








Duck Soup (32 Points)



https://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/duck-soup-1933/large_bFxealD6vcYr4sPOrJF0pvZ95ff.jpg
(10, 9, 9, 3,1)

[edarsenal]

would have been nice but I had a feeling Harvey was going to be in the lower middle and it was.

Arsenic & Old Lace was my #1 film. Had my fingers crossed this was going to be higher.

[edarsenal]

And the best known of the Marx Brothers, I had Duck Soup at #2

[gbgoodies]

Coming in 5th Place






Arsenic and Old Lace (31 pts)

https://www.filmsite.org/posters/arsenicandol.jpg
(10, 7, 7, 5, 2)


Arsenic and Old Lace would have been my #1, but it had some tough competition in this HoF, (and a couple of bad reviews that made me sad), so I'm not too surprised that it placed here.

[edarsenal]

still some double positions in the voting, which is kinda cool

[gbgoodies]

With my two favorites already shown, I'm rooting for His Girl Friday for the win.