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The 18th MoFo Hall of Fame
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The deadline for Submissions will sometime between 27th-31st. If anyone wants to come in after the reveal I'm fine with that. I'm also fine if you want to submit a list of 5 potential noms for feedback from the participants
Current Participants
edarsenal *Nomination received
Joel *Nomination received
pahaK *Nomination received
Citizen Rules *Nomination received
Neiba *Nomination received
Miss Vicky *Nomination received
Siddon *Nomination received
Ahwell *Nomination received
rauldc14 *Nomination received
Nathaniel *Nomination received
Yam12 *Nomination received
MovieMeditation *Nomination received
Rules of Participation:
-This is a general Hall of Fame, so any genre or medium of film can be nominated, provided that it is no more than 220 minutes in length and has not won a previous MoFo Hall of Fame. Please review the Hall of Fame Archive (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=52323) before nominating, so that you do not nominate a previous winner.
-If you have trouble locating a particular film, please ask for help in this thread. When responding to help requests, please do so via private message. Do not directly link or embed films in this thread.
-You will be required to watch all nominated films and will be expected to write at least a few sentences about each of them. If you have seen a nominated film already and feel you have watched it recently enough to give it fair consideration in voting, you may pass on watching it again. However, you will still be expected to write up your thoughts on the film in this thread.
-Refusal to watch any nominated film will result in disqualification.
-If for any reason you need to drop out of participating in this Hall of Fame, please notify me a.s.a.p. either in this thread or via private message or profile comment.
New Rule
You must have 1 write-up done in the first 2 weeks
You must have 2 write-ups done in the first month
You must have 4 write-ups done in the first 6 weeks
You will get a PM and one extension with a request otherwise you're out.
*Nomination received
The deadlines are as follows
February 11th - 1 Review must be turned in
February 25th - 2 Reviews must be turned in
March 11th - 4 Reviews must be turned in
April 12th- When all the reviews must be in
The Nominated Films
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The Little Stranger (2018) - Nominated by Siddon
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The Florida Project (2017) nominated by rauldc14
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/The_Square_%282017_film%29_poster.png
The Square (2017) nominated by MovieMeditation
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Brimstone_film.jpg
Brimstone(2016) nominated by pahak
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Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (2011) nominated by Neiba
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Bubba Ho-Tep (2002) nominated by MissVicky
https://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/200/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/Fandango/50254/roadtoperdition_2_lg.jpg
Road to Perdition (2002) nominated by edarsenal
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/d8/ed/e7d8ed28525d9b3e098ddab36d6a6116.jpg
Perfect Blue (1997) nominated by Nathaniel
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/33/Split%28film%29.jpg/220px-Split%28film%29.jpg
Split (1989) nominated by Joel
https://cdn.cinematerial.com/p/500x/zktbxhqt/the-king-of-comedy-movie-poster.jpg
The King of Comedy(1982) nominated by Yam12
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Poster_of_the_movie_Seven_Waves_Away.jpg/220px-Poster_of_the_movie_Seven_Waves_Away.jpg
Abandon Ship! aka Seven Waves Away (1957) Nominated by CitizenRules
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mIkAAOSwLVZVyUk4/s-l300.jpg
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) nominated by Ahwell
Saved for later/Editing
Ahwell 12/12(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987850#post1987850)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1997090#post1997090)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991401#post1991401)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986560#post1986560)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988526#post1988526)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995334#post1995334)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1998945#post1998945)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995335#post1995335)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990927#post1990927)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986222#post1986222)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987854#post1987854)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1997091#post1997091)
Citizen Rules 12/12-(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988567#post1988567)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988354#post1988354)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986522#post1986522)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987635#post1987635)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988075#post1988075)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989304#post1989304)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987989#post1987989)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987360#post1987360)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986851#post1986851)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987252#post1987252)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986240#post1986240)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989819#post1989819)
Edarsenal 12/12(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988467#post1988467)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990415#post1990415)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995749#post1995749)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003633#post2003633)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003816#post2003816)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1993522#post1993522)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001887#post2001887)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995746#post1995746)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991753#post1991753)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988741#post1988741)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002514#post2002514)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992681#post1992681)
Joel 12/12(list received)
Abandon Ship! (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004519#post2004519)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990707#post1990707)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987263#post1987263)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003004#post2003004)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987260#post1987260)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987284#post1987284)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990412#post1990412)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003004#post2003004)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989436#post1989436)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988453#post1988453)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987280#post1987280)
Square (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989163#post1989163)
MissVicky 12/12-(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986259#post1986259)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992494&highlight=Bubba#post1992494)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990812#post1990812)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987804#post1987804)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990385#post1990385)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988010#post1988010)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992399#post1992399) Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988487#post1988487)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987564#post1987564)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986661#post1986661)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987362#post1987362)
The Square (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992133#post1992133)
MovieMeditation 12/12 - (List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988805#post1988805)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987859#post1987859)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988363#post1988363)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991740#post1991740)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988538#post1988538)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990145#post1990145)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989677#post1989677)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1993095#post1993095)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989892#post1989892)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988104#post1988104)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992641#post1992641)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991233#post1991233)
Nathanial 12/12(List Received)
Abandon Ship! (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992652#post1992652)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988167#post1988167)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1996799#post1996799)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003206#post2003206)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002081#post2002081)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990730#post1990730)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1997038#post1997038)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003850#post2003850)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001541#post2001541)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1993667#post1993667)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003207#post2003207)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2003844#post2003844)
Neiba 10/12(List Received)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001673#post2001673)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995863#post1995863)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002062#post2002062)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002597#post2002597)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1994257#post1994257)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002062#post2002062)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001673#post2001673)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991806#post1991806)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001678#post2001678)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989163#post1989163)
Pahak 12/12(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987110#post1987110)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986153#post1986153)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986425#post1986425)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1999780#post1999780)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992639#post1992639)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1996912#post1996912)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989176&highlight=stranger#post1989176)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987297#post1987297)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986272#post1986272)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001592#post2001592)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990609#post1990609)
Rauldc14 12/12(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987294#post1987294)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995711#post1995711)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1994125#post1994125)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991123#post1991123)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991364#post1991364)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1993754#post1993754)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992558#post1992558)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1998539#post1998539)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1989538#post1989538)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987974#post1987974)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1995752#post1995752)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1999437#post1999437)
Siddon 12/12(list received)
Abandon Ship! (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001636#post2001636)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988384#post1988384)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1993698#post1993698)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004538#post2004538)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1991063#post1991063)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1997454#post1997454)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986088#post1986088)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987292#post1987292)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2002753#post2002753)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986090#post1986090)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986290#post1986290)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1992141#post1992141)
Yam12 12/12(List Received)
Abandon Ship (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986370#post1986370)
Brimstone (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001278#post2001278)
Bubba Ho-Tep (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986789#post1986789)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004073#post2004073)
The Florida Project (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1993037#post1993037)
The King of Comedy (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2004073#post2004073)
The Little Stranger (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1990562#post1990562)
Road to Perdition (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1987761#post1987761)
Perfect Blue (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986602#post1986602)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1988451#post1988451)
Split (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1986335#post1986335)
The Square
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2001278#post2001278)
I'm in and already sent my nomination.
Citizen Rules
01-20-19, 01:54 PM
I'm in and PahaK will hate my nomination:D
Citizen Rules
01-20-19, 02:01 PM
Good job:up: Siddon. I like your rules/guidelines, this should be fun!
I'll send my nom soon as I can make up my mind:p I have several I'm considering.
One question, how does this work?, "I'm also fine if you want to submit a list of 5 potential noms for feedback from the participants"
Would we submit the list of 5 potential noms on the thread? or to you by PM? and would we do that now? or at a later date?
I'm in and PahaK will hate my nomination:D
I have a hunch that you don't like mine either. It's probably too depressing for you ;)
Good job:up: Siddon. I like your rules/guidelines, this should be fun!
I'll send my nom soon as I can make up my mind:p I have several I'm considering.
One question, how does this work?, "I'm also fine if you want to submit a list of 5 potential noms for feedback from the participants"
Would we submit the list of 5 potential noms on the thread? or to you by PM? and would we do that now? or at a later date?
Just do a list of five,
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Seance on a Wet Afternoon
The Little Stranger
Forbidden Planet
That Hamilton Woman
So instead of hearing about how XYZ is going to hate this movie it gives them an option to get early feedback. These things run 3-4 months so I think this way it might allow for a more competitive competition.
edarsenal
01-21-19, 09:48 PM
Just sent my nomination in
rauldc14
01-21-19, 09:54 PM
I'm in again. Will need a bit of time (a couple of days) to ponder what I'm nominating.
Just rewatched my nomination and still liked it a lot so I'll keep it :D
I hope cricket joins as he might actually like it or at least I've got the impression that he's into brutal feel-bad movies.
I'm in again. Will need a bit of time (a couple of days) to ponder what I'm nominating.
Post a short list and I'll give you feedback
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Godfather
The Wizard of Oz
The Dark Knight
Citizen Kane
The Godfather - was nominated last year, came in fourth for BP, still biter but might want to pass on that.
2001: A Space Odyssey - watched it again this summer, liked it a lot.
Citizen Kane- well it's my all-time favorite
The Wizard of Oz - wouldn't mind a rewatch
The Dark Knight - it's a good pick in my eyes
Citizen Rules
01-22-19, 02:12 PM
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Godfather
The Wizard of Oz
The Dark Knight
Citizen KaneYou win:p
HashtagBrownies
01-22-19, 03:06 PM
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Godfather
The Wizard of Oz
The Dark Knight
Citizen Kane
I don't really wanna watch the Godfather again but apart from that I wouldn't mind any of these getting nominated.
Miss Vicky
01-22-19, 03:13 PM
2001: A Space Odyssey
I hate this movie.
The Godfather
Good, but would probably rank in the middle or low end of my ballot depending on what's nominated.
The Wizard of Oz
I hate this movie.
The Dark Knight
I used to love this movie but have liked it less and less each time I watch it.
Citizen Kane
I respect this film but found it really boring. Would probably rank low on my ballot depending on what else is nominated.
Miss Vicky
01-22-19, 03:15 PM
Anyway, I'll probably join but am debating on what to nominate. I've never gone into one of these with a strong eye on winning and I don't intend to start that now, so I probably won't post a list for consideration. I'll just go with whatever my gut tells me, like usual.
Anyway, I'll probably join but am debating on what to nominate. I've never gone into one of these with a strong eye on winning and I don't intend to start that now, so I probably won't post a list for consideration. I'll just go with whatever my gut tells me, like usual.
any thoughts on my noms Vicky
Miss Vicky
01-22-19, 03:19 PM
any thoughts on my noms Vicky
I've only seen Raiders, which I like but it's my least favorite of the original Indiana Jones trilogy.
So... now what. Sorry, do I just nominate one of the movies in my list after people have given their feedback? Like, whichever one was received the best?
Citizen Rules
01-22-19, 04:30 PM
Anyway, I'll probably join but am debating on what to nominate. I've never gone into one of these with a strong eye on winning and I don't intend to start that now, so I probably won't post a list for consideration. I'll just go with whatever my gut tells me, like usual. Me too, I don't try to pick a film with the intent to win. Heck I don't always vote my own movie as my #1 on my voting ballot. I usually pick something that I want to watch, and that I believe in, and think it's worthy of being nominated...with the hope at least someone will like it.
Citizen Rules
01-22-19, 04:36 PM
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Seance on a Wet Afternoon
The Little Stranger
Forbidden Planet
That Hamilton Woman Were those meant as your 5 potential noms? I didn't comment as I though they were just examples.
I've not seen two of those. One I haven't seen in the longest time, but did like it....And I had considered nominating two of them myself, hell maybe I still will!....Probably not hard to guess which one's they are.
So... now what. Sorry, do I just nominate one of the movies in my list after people have given their feedback? Like, whichever one was received the best?
Wait a few days for more feedback and once you feel strongly about one or the other PM me your nom.
It's your call
Miss Vicky
01-22-19, 04:40 PM
So... now what. Sorry, do I just nominate one of the movies in my list after people have given their feedback? Like, whichever one was received the best?
You choose a movie to nominate and then send that to siddon in a private message. After sign ups, siddon will post the nominations and set a deadline. Everyone who is participating will have to watch and write up all of the nominated movies. Once you're done watching and writing them up, you send siddon a list of all of the nominated movies in ranked order from best to worst via private message. We are usually given one week per nominated movie to get this done. More specific rules are in the first post of the thread.
Were those meant as your 5 potential noms? I didn't comment as I though they were just examples.
I've not seen two of those. One I haven't seen in the longest time, but did like it....And I had considered nominating two of them myself, hell maybe I still will!....Probably not hard to guess which one's they are.
Yeah those were my five, you can take the two that you want I've got two replacements
Love and Mercy (2015) and Touch of Evil (1958)
Just do the list and see what happens more information isn't worse than less information.
Miss Vicky
01-22-19, 04:47 PM
Yeah those were my five, you can take the two that you want I've got two replacements
Love and Mercy (2015) and Touch of Evil (1958)
Just do the list and see what happens more information isn't worse than less information.
Haven't seen Touch of Evil but I thought Love and Mercy was very good.
Would like to join this but probably won't have time to commit.
All right, now that I better understand what is going on, here is my new, revised list of possible nominees:
Jaws
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Ben-Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey
Citizen Rules
01-22-19, 07:15 PM
Yeah those were my five, you can take the two that you want I've got two replacements
Love and Mercy (2015) and Touch of Evil (1958) I was joking in that I wasn't going to take one of your noms:p but serious that I like them good enough to have considered them for other HoFs. I have a list of like 300 or more movies that I consider so lots of the well known films are on my maybe list. Like Touch of Evil! But no I was going to nominate it. I have my nom picked out it's something most haven't seen, I'm pretty sure of that.
All right, now that I better understand what is going on, here is my new, revised list of possible nominees:
Jaws
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Ben-Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey:up:
rauldc14
01-22-19, 07:23 PM
Ben-Hur wouldn't be eligible, it's too long and doesn't meet the time requirements.
Citizen Rules
01-22-19, 07:31 PM
Ben-Hur wouldn't be eligible, it's too long and doesn't meet the time requirements.Ben-Hur is 212 minutes, Siddon said 220 minutes and under, so it would qualify.
I think we should go back to the original 240 minutes or under rule for the next HoF, there's a number of movies that aren't allowed otherwise.
Miss Vicky
01-22-19, 08:00 PM
Jaws
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
These are good but I respect them more than I like them.
Ben-Hur
I hate this movie.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
I liked this one a lot when I was a kid, but when I watched it as an adult I didn't like it.
edarsenal
01-22-19, 08:16 PM
Snow White would be a solid animation for a General HoF and the others are worthwhile, ahwell
and with Siddon's list:
Raiders of the Lost Ark -- always a fav
Seance on a Wet Afternoon -- have not seen
The Little Stranger -- haven't seen
Forbidden Planet -- surprisingly a good ole Sci Fi film I STILL haven't sat down and watched
That Hamilton Woman -- good flick, been a long time since I've seen it
Nope1172
01-22-19, 09:08 PM
Hello all, I know that I have had a shaky past when it comes to HoFs, but I was recently reminiscing about my glory MoFo days and am considering joining this. Assuming that you guys will let me.
rauldc14
01-22-19, 09:13 PM
Eh, I'm not trying to be mean but if I remember correctly there were multiple HOFs you didn't finish and idk if I want to join if there's too many questionable nominees that won't finish. Of course, I'm not host so my opinion is worth nothing.
Siddon-
Raiders is the only one I've seen- it's pretty good, not one of my favorites.
Hello all, I know that I have had a shaky past when it comes to HoFs, but I was recently reminiscing about my glory MoFo days and am considering joining this. Assuming that you guys will let me.
Yup just keep in mind
1 movie the first 2 weeks
2 movies the first month
4 movies the first 6 weeks
I'm hoping for a higher quality of nom's so hopefully it would inspire people to not drop out
Also what films are you thinking of?
Nope1172
01-22-19, 09:27 PM
Would it be possible for me to just be an honorary member, and people won't have to watch my movie until I've watched all of the other noms.
Also no hard feelings against anyone who doesn't want me in the HoF I've committed to these things and not followed through at least 3 times it's totally understandable.
Would it be possible for me to just be an honorary member, and people won't have to watch my movie until I've watched all of the other noms.
Also no hard feelings against anyone who doesn't want me in the HoF I've committed to these things and not followed through at least 3 times it's totally understandable.
Well that's going to likely happen anyways...what's your film you're thinking of nominating?
edarsenal
01-22-19, 11:13 PM
Would it be possible for me to just be an honorary member, and people won't have to watch my movie until I've watched all of the other noms.
Also no hard feelings against anyone who doesn't want me in the HoF I've committed to these things and not followed through at least 3 times it's totally understandable.
honorary could work very nicely
Citizen Rules
01-22-19, 11:23 PM
Yup just keep in mind
1 movie the first 2 weeks
2 movies the first month
4 movies the first 6 weeks
See I like that as it weeds out the riff raft;) right from the get go.
You should expand that to include 6 movies (by such and such time), 8 movies, 10 movies, etc.. so that someone doesn't watch only 4 movies then set on their ass until they drop out at the end.
Like Miss Vicky and Citizen Rules I don't do HoFs to compete. I'm interested in seeing films others consider good but that wouldn't have landed on my watchlist otherwise (I've even enjoyed few of those). I also try to nominate films that I like a lot and that everyone hasn't already seen.
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Seance on a Wet Afternoon
The Little Stranger
Forbidden Planet
That Hamilton Woman
Raiders is good (without rewatching the whole series I'd say it's my 2nd favorite Indy after Temple). Forbidden Planet I've seen ages ago and don't have too positive memories of it.
Haven't seen the others but Seance and Little Stranger look interesting. I think there's a high chance I'd hate Hamilton Woman but who knows, maybe it'll surprise me.
Of your replacements Love & Mercy doesn't sound too interesting to me. Touch of Evil I've seen ages ago and it's been on my rewatch list for a while now (I remember it being quite good).
All right, now that I better understand what is going on, here is my new, revised list of possible nominees:
Jaws
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Ben-Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey
Jaws is OK I'd remember. I'm not a huge fan but not hater either. Snow White I haven't (surprisingly) seen but I don't expect to like it. Ben-Hur was a real bore last time I saw it. Holy Grail is one of the best comedies ever made and probably my favorite Python. 2001 is my controversial movie opinion - I've tried to watch it several times but never managed to finish. I've been meaning to give it another go so nominating it would at least ensure that I'd see it completely.
See I like that as it weeds out the riff raft;) right from the get go.
You should expand that to include 6 movies (by such and such time), 8 movies, 10 movies, etc.. so that someone doesn't watch only 4 movies then set on their ass until they drop out at the end.
If we have 10 entrants then the deadline is 10 weeks so they have a month to finish 6 films or they are out.
If we get 15 participants I'll add another cut line but it seems to me that when people drop out they do so at the pre-mid point.
This is also easier for me because I'm not going to be around much in February I have hard deadlines I can send out the pm's make the checks and come back.
All right, now that I better understand what is going on, here is my new, revised list of possible nominees:
Jaws
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Ben-Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey
Any other thoughts on this?
Citizen Rules
01-24-19, 12:49 AM
Jaws
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Ben-Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
2001: A Space Odyssey
I've not seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs but I'd welcome a viewing of it:)
rauldc14
01-24-19, 08:33 AM
Generals need more animation so I'd be good with Snow White.
Miss Vicky
01-24-19, 11:40 AM
Okay, screw it. I've been debating on what to nominate. I was torn between three movies - one is a long time favorite that I've considered for several HOFs and think could do well, another is a long time favorite that probably won't do well but is relevant to the upcoming countdown, and the third is a recent discovery that I really loved, is relevant to the countdown, and probably would do well. As illogical as it might be, I'm going with option #2.
MijaFrost
01-24-19, 06:58 PM
I enjoy participating in HOFs, but I have a huge backlog right now of stuff I need to watch, so I would prefer to wait until after the reveal to check what's been nominated and if I can find everything, and then possibly send in a nom, if that's ok with you, Siddon.
rauldc14
01-24-19, 07:59 PM
I'm going unconventional with this one.
edarsenal
01-24-19, 08:25 PM
I'm going unconventional with this one.
we have a rogue
Citizen Rules
01-24-19, 09:04 PM
I enjoy participating in HOFs, but I have a huge backlog right now of stuff I need to watch, so I would prefer to wait until after the reveal to check what's been nominated and if I can find everything, and then possibly send in a nom, if that's ok with you, @Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448).
I've enjoyed working with you in the HoFs, so I hope you'll join:) If it helps my movie is only 90 minutes long.
Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 12:43 PM
When's the big reveal? It feels like ages since I've been in an HoF and I'm looking forward to being in one again.
rauldc14
01-28-19, 12:46 PM
I changed my mind last minute on my nomination. I think it could do decently, but definitely not a winning contender.
Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 12:47 PM
I changed my mind last minute on my nomination. I think it could do decently, but definitely not a winning contender. Care to tell us what you would nave nominated?
rauldc14
01-28-19, 12:51 PM
My original pick was actually going to go way out there and I was going to nominate The Great Mouse Detective. I've been thinking about how seriously underrated I think it is as both an animation film and just for Disney in general. But I ultimately decided to go a different way. One of these times I will pull the trigger and do an animation nomination in a general.
Miss Vicky
01-28-19, 01:05 PM
My original pick was actually going to go way out there and I was going to nominate The Great Mouse Detective.
I love animated films, but not that particular animated film. I'm glad you decided against it. At least, I think I'm glad but then we'll see what you actually chose.
Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 01:15 PM
My original pick was actually going to go way out there and I was going to nominate The Great Mouse Detective. I've been thinking about how seriously underrated I think it is as both an animation film and just for Disney in general. But I ultimately decided to go a different way. One of these times I will pull the trigger and do an animation nomination in a general. That would've been cool to see and I bet it would have done much better than you think. It might not have won but I bet it would come in at the middle of the pack at least.
When's the big reveal? It feels like ages since I've been in an HoF and I'm looking forward to being in one again.
You should have joined the horror HoF :D But yeah, I'm looking forward to the reveal as well. Really curious on what I must watch this time.
rauldc14
01-28-19, 01:25 PM
I love animated films, but not that particular animated film. I'm glad you decided against it. At least, I think I'm glad but then we'll see what you actually chose.
When's the last time you saw it? Only say it because it seems I like it a lot more as an adult than I did as a kid.
Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 01:35 PM
The movie I was going to go with would've probably came in last place:( I love it! and I know a couple of MoFos do too, but some hate it. I might use it another time, it is so fun to watch (at least for me).
Well we haven't gotten an entrant in a few days...so let's roll out the reveal.....
The First Nomination....
from ahwell
#49 on the AFI list of 100 Films
Disney's first major animated film....
https://fanaru.com/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs/image/211797-snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-the-seven-dwarfs.gif
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
The 2nd Nomination....
A cult classic if their ever was one...nominated by @MissVicky
Bubba-Ho Tep (2002)
https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1496604776ra/22932799.gif
Haven't seen either of the first two noms. I'm not a huge fan of animation so I don't expect to like Snow White that much but I try to see it with open mind. Bubba-Ho Tep interests me due to its cult status but other than that I have no idea what to expect.
The Third Nomination
from Joel
the film that ressurected M Knight Shyamalan's career that went on to register almost 300 million dollars on the Box office and setup the number #1 movie in America....
https://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/s1.jpg
Split....
wait not that split.....
sorry
actually not that Split....this is 1989's Split
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/33/Split%28film%29.jpg/220px-Split%28film%29.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVVU8cA7YIg
oh boy.....
Oh boy indeed :D 0/3 seen this far.
Our 4th Nomination
from pahaK
Brimstone(2016)
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https://66.media.tumblr.com/d68be0466f9dbd6578053dee936b0a60/tumblr_oyd646df9r1ro95bto1_540.gif
https://em.wattpad.com/00d6dd82c2cc0550b58f04b208ebed338e642db0/68747470733a2f2f73332e616d617a6f6e6177732e636f6d2f776174747061642d6d656469612d736572766963652f53746f 7279496d6167652f38527a316b56454f7166514c5a773d3d2d3437383039363232362e313465613962323432353231326361 303735303733313537313934332e676966
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6ad0f5850a1ee896e9e9ea5d8cc3e930/tumblr_op68xdlRJv1rob81ao6_r1_250.gif
which based on the gifs I've seen based entirely on people staring at the camera....
Our 5th nomination from
@edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536)
Here's a fun fact for you kids...when people bring up how Logan or The Dark Knight should have been the first comic book film to receive a best picture nom...I submit, Ed's pick
https://i.imgur.com/Jmr9Oye.gif
2002's Road to Perdition
Tom Hanks
Paul Newman
Jude Law
directed by Sam Mendes
shot by the legendary Conrad Hall
And let's just make this a Tom Hanks two-fer
Our Sixth Nomination.....
nominated by neiba this is a Best Picture nominee
https://media.coveringmedia.com/media/images/movies/2011/12/18/elic_01a.jpg
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (2011)
if ever a picture and title matched up well it's that....
Fun Fact: Extremely Loud and Incredibly close received a BP nomination as well as a nomination for Max Von Sydow for supporting actor another film that registered a supporting actor nomination
Our Seventh Nomination from
rauldc14
https://fgmxi4acxur9qbg31y9s3a15-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/08/The_Florida_Project-3-Marc-Schmidt-feature-1600x900-c-default.jpg
The Florida Project (2017)
So I know what you are thinking...five films from post 2000 that's got to be a record.
Well here's a film that received no Oscar Nominations...didn't sent the box office on fire...and stars an actor from the incredibly popular The Last Jedi
our Eighth Nomination from myself
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2018's The Little Stranger
Road to Perdition is the first one I've seen (besides my own). I think it was OK but it's been a long time. The other Hanks I haven't seen. Florida Project has been on my watchlist for months and now I'll finally get a good excuse to actually watch it.
EDIT: Little Stranger still looks interesting.
And our final nomination...so far
from @CitizenRules
https://cmga360society.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/a56c47fd88880e2c0b36fad4839f828e-patty-duke-film-stills.jpg
Valley of the Dolls (1967)
I may or maynot be drinking and doing pills during some of these films I make no promises....
The Third Nomination
from Joel
the film that ressurected M Knight Shyamalan's career that went on to register almost 300 million dollars on the Box office and setup the number #1 movie in America....
https://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/s1.jpg
Split....
wait not that split.....
sorry
actually not that Split....this is 1989's Split
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/33/Split%28film%29.jpg/220px-Split%28film%29.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVVU8cA7YIg
oh boy.....
You scared the ass off of me for a hot second. Nicely done..
Miss Vicky
01-28-19, 02:49 PM
Besides my own nomination, I've seen Snow White, Road to Perdition, and Valley of the Dolls. It's been quite a long time since I last watched Road to Perdition and Valley of the Dolls though, and I don't remember much about them.
Okay, Citizen Rules I'm sorry but I'm probably going to hate your nom :D It doesn't look like my film at all.
Nathaniel
01-28-19, 03:03 PM
Everyone ok with me entering post reveal?
Still deciding between two but I want to rewatch one tonight before submitting. Both are from the 90s ;)
So
@Yam12,
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95772)
@Mijafrost,
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95772)
and
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95772) Nope1172
You've seen the nom's this is a very light Hall of Fame only 9 nom's many of them short this should be a very easy one to finish. So I'll give you guys till the 1st to decide if you want to enter or if you want to just watch and review that's okay as well.
The deadlines are as follows
February 11th - 1 Review must be turned in
February 25th - 2 Reviews must be turned in
March 11th - 4 Reviews must be turned in
April 1st - When all the reviews must be in
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95772)
MijaFrost (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100042)Mija[/URL]
[URL="https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100042"]MijaFrost (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95772)
Everyone ok with me entering post reveal?
Still deciding between two but I want to rewatch one tonight before submitting. Both are from the 90s ;)
absolutely we could use a tenth
Miss Vicky
01-28-19, 03:17 PM
When's the last time you saw it? Only say it because it seems I like it a lot more as an adult than I did as a kid.
2015, which was also the only time I watched it.
Miss Vicky
01-28-19, 03:19 PM
Everyone ok with me entering post reveal?
Siddon announced from the start that he was okay with people joining after the announcement, so I can't really object. Just make your nomination quickly.
Nathaniel
01-28-19, 03:29 PM
Siddon announced from the start that he was okay with people joining after the announcement, so I can't really object. Just make your nomination quickly.
Will do 👍
Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 03:32 PM
And our final nomination...so far
from @CitizenRules
https://cmga360society.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/a56c47fd88880e2c0b36fad4839f828e-patty-duke-film-stills.jpg
Valley of the Dolls (1967)
I may or may not be drinking and doing pills during some of these films I make no promises....
That is NOT my nomination, why did you put that? Change it to the correct one. I told you I was going with Abandon Ship also known as Seven Days from Now (1957). (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050091/)
That is NOT my nomination, why did you put that? Change it to the correct one. I told you I was going with Abandon Ship also known as Seven Days from Now (1957). (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050091/)
I thought you were iffy on that one and went with your first choice...
OK, maybe I should have went with my first choice. I'm pretty sure if I nominated Valley of the Dolls it would come in near last.
It's not going to come in last
Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 03:43 PM
I thought you were iffy on that one and went with your first choice... You misunderstood me. I was making small talk and saying I had considered VOD but I know it would come in last. Anyway my nom is Abandon Ship aka Seven Days Away
EDIT: Thanks for changing it.
Nope1172
01-28-19, 03:44 PM
I don't think Im gonna take part in this one. Maybe in the future
MijaFrost
01-28-19, 06:34 PM
This looks like an interesting HOF.
The only ones I've seen were Snow White when I was a child, and Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close back when it was released.
Never heard of 1989's Split or CitizenRule's correct nom.
Bubba Ho-Tep, Road to Perdition and The Florida Project have all been on my "must watch list."
I think though that unfortunately I'll have to skip this one... haven't been able to decide on a nom and as I said earlier I have piles of stuff to watch. If I can get that out of the way hopefully I can join another HOF soon.
If I do end up watching any of these titles during the run, I'll stop by and share my review (though obviously I wouldn't take part in the voting).
And we've got two more entrants...
Coming in at Nomination number 10 from Yam12
a film on the 1001 films to see before you die, the film that almost broke Martin Scorsese
https://d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net/wp/wp-content/images/The-King-of-Comedy-1-700x300.jpg
The King of Comedy (1982)
And here we are at #11 from Nathaniel
we started this list with Snow White I figure we would end with it's almost opposite version the horror/thriller anime
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Perfect Blue (1997)
Miss Vicky
01-28-19, 08:52 PM
Perfect Blue is an excellent film and one that's in my personal collection. :up:
Haven't seen The King of Comedy yet.
Only seen my nom out of all of these.
Out of the nominated films, Perfect Blue and The Florida Project are the ones I want to see the most.
https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/littlestranger.jpg?w=1000&h=563&crop=1
The Little Stranger is a film that is difficult to genre classify it's quite clearly an adaptation of a novel as you can practically see each chapter break in the film. The basic plot of the story is a doctor (Domnhall Gleeson) is called to a ramshackled estate of the Ayers family. Strange things happen the story progresses and when the film ends you are left with a number of questions. If you enjoyed Jane Eyre, Rebecca, and The Haunting this film is up your alley. If you need things explained to you or you are not willing to accept different interpretations of character and motive this film is going to be a huge problem for you.
My biggest problem was with the casting, Gleeson and Wilson are both very good, however you've got continuity issues with the ages of the characters and the actors. All the characters are really compelling, Gleeson is a very stiff upper lip repressed man in his late thirties/early forties. He's sort of an in-between dealing with commoners who disgust him and the wealthy caste who view him as a tool. Ruth Wilson plays an older unmarried sister, stuck in a sort of spinster role. She's put-upon to take care of the estate and her brother a damaged WWII pilot who thanks to gender roles is "running the house".
The film touches on a number of issues from the economical to the social to the mystical to at it's core the psychological. Faraday(Gleeson) is an extremely compelling character and you reach a point in the film where your perspective shifts. The problem though is that it feels like it's so close to being a classic but it's just missing a few things but I was moved and affected by it, and others will as well.
rating_4
https://hilaritybydefault.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SW-banner.jpg
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) is an historically significant film this was the first of Disney's 57 features and watching this film again as an adult I well....didn't care for it. Snow White is the story of a princess who is also a servant who falls in love was a prince and the Queen decides because she's pretty she has to die. I mean when you really break down the plot of the film it makes almost no sense.
Snow White is then tipped off by the woodsman and she finds shelter with seven dwarfs who mine diamonds yet they all live in a ramshackle cabin...why are they doing this...who knows once again watching this film 80 years later the plot doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Also Snow White as a character...kinda sucks she's needy, bossy and single minded she's led by romantic desires and a sense of achieving the ultimate goal...being a homemaker.
Really what this movie is about is set ups for each musical number which I enjoyed for what they were. The animation is fairly rudimentary as the character movements don't seem to fully seem normal I think you have to wait till Pinochio and Fantasia before the films feel finished. What I love about the film is the non-animated handdrawn stills you see pop up every once and while.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/59/7d/c9597d7230f32b35d61d71b31c9e9697.jpg
When you can just take a step back and enjoy the art of the film it's fantastic.
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Citizen Rules
01-28-19, 09:59 PM
My nom, Seven Days from Now (1957) aka Seven Waves Away aka Abandon Ship! has never been released on DVD so it won't be at your library or on pay per streaming. I do have a couple of links for it. PM me if you need them.
I suggest watching it sooner than later in case those links go missing. It's a short film, only 90 minutes and I guarantee you won't be bored.
Miss Vicky
01-28-19, 10:13 PM
For my own reference:
The 18th MoFo Hall of Fame
Deadlines:
1st Review by February 11th
2nd Review by February 25th
4th Review by March 11th
Final Deadline: April 12th
* * *
Abandon Ship! (Richard Sale, 1957) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050091/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 1 hr, 40 mins
Nominated by Citizen Rules
Rewatch?: No
Source: YouTube
Review: January 29, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1986259#post1986259) / 3-
Brimstone (Martin Koolhoven, 2016) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895315/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
Length: 2 hrs, 28 mins
Nominated by pahaK
Rewatch?: No.
Source: Library
Review: February 17, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1990812#post1990812) / 3
Bubba Ho-Tep (Don Coscarelli, 2002) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0281686/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 1 hr, 32 mins
Nominated by me
Rewatch?: Yes
Source: my collection
Review: February 25, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1992494#post1992494) / 5
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (Stephen Daldry, 2011) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477302/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 2 hrs, 9 mins
Nominated by neiba
Rewatch?: No.
Source: Library
Review: February 5, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1987804#post1987804) / 2
The Florida Project (Sean Baker, 2017) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5649144/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 1 hr, 51 mins
Nominated by rauldc14
Rewatch?: No.
Source: Amazon Prime
Review: February 15, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1990385#post1990385) / 3.5+
The King of Comedy (Martin Scorsese, 1982) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085794/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 1 hr, 49 mins
Nominated by Yam12
Rewatch?: No.
Source: Amazon Prime
Review: February 5, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1988010#post1988010) / 4-
The Little Stranger (Lenny Abrahamson, 2018) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6859762/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
Length: 1 hr, 51 mins
Nominated by Siddon
Rewatch?: No.
Source: Amazon Rental
Review: February 25, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1992399#post1992399) / 3.5
Pâfekuto burû (Perfect Blue) (Satoshi Kon, 1997) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156887/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 1 hr, 21 mins
Nominated by Nathaniel
Rewatch?: Yes
Source: my collection
Review: February 8, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1988487#post1988487) / 4+
Road to Perdition (Sam Mendes, 2002) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0257044/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Length: 1 hr, 57 mins
Nominated by edarsenal
Rewatch?: Yes
Source: mom's collection
Review: February 4, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1987564#post1987564) / 3.5+
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (William Cottrell, David Hand, et al., 1937) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029583/?ref_=nv_sr_2)
Length: 1 hr, 23 mins
Nominated by Ahwell
Rewatch?: Yes
Source: my collection
Review: January 30, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1986661#post1986661) / 3
Split (Chris Shaw, 1989) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098374/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_7)
Length: 1 hr, 25 mins
Nominated by Joel
Rewatch?: No
Source: YouTube
Review: February 2, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1987362#post1987362) / 1
The Square (Ruben Östlund, 2017) IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4995790/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)
Length: 2 hrs, 31 mins
Nominated by MovieMeditation
Rewatch?: No.
Source: Library
Review: February 24, 2019 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1992133#post1992133) / 3-
edarsenal
01-29-19, 12:12 AM
Really enjoyed the reveals Siddon, VERY nicely done!!!
Abandon Ship! (Richard Sale, 1957) IMDb Never heard of this one but looking forward to it
Brimstone (Martin Koolhoven, 2016) IMDb It looks familiar, but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it. Still, should be up my alley
Bubba Ho-Tep (Don Coscarelli, 2002) IMDb Have seen this and was surprised at the time that I didn't enjoy it. We'll see.
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (Stephen Daldry, 2011) IMDb Haven't see this one
The Florida Project (Sean Baker, 2017) IMDb Not familiar with this one but I DO enjoy Defoe
The King of Comedy (Martin Scorsese, 1982) IMDb Another I didn't like the first time around but who knows. . .
The Little Stranger (Lenny Abrahamson, 2018) IMDb Unknown but looks intriguing
Pâfekuto burû (Perfect Blue) (Satoshi Kon, 1997) IMDb LOVE this one!!
Road to Perdition (Sam Mendes, 2002) IMDb My choice, quite the favorite of mine
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (William Cottrell, David Hand, et al., 1937) IMDb ALWAYS in the mood to see some very old school Disney.
Split (Chris Shaw, 1989 this should be quite the interesting crap shoot.
Miss Vicky
01-29-19, 12:17 AM
Bubba Ho-Tep (Don Coscarelli, 2002) Have seen this and was surprised at the time that I didn't enjoy it. We'll see.
Is it wrong that I'm kind of hoping you still won't like it? I mean, really I hope everyone enjoys it (and votes for it for the horror countdown :D ) but it would make me feel less bad about the fact that I pretty much never like your noms.
Incidentally, the one thing I remember about Road to Perdition was that I didn't like it. :laugh:
10 minutes into Split...well good news pahaK Child Bride might no longer be my goto for terrible Hall of Fame choices.
edarsenal
01-29-19, 01:57 AM
Is it wrong that I'm kind of hoping you still won't like it? I mean, really I hope everyone enjoys it (and votes for it for the horror countdown :D ) but it would make me feel less bad about the fact that I pretty much never like your noms.
Incidentally, the one thing I remember about Road to Perdition was that I didn't like it. :laugh:
:laugh:
tell ya what, we'll promise each other to simply hate each other's nom on this one ;)
But yeah, it was kinda funny when I saw it and thought, "Well, here's a first. A Miss Vicky nom I don't absolutely love. Hmm."
Will likely need links for Split and Abandon Ship so I'd appreciate if anyone can help out with those.
CosmicRunaway
01-29-19, 03:47 AM
I didn't join this HoF because I'm still trying to catch up on 2018 releases, and haven't done any rewatches for the Horror Countdown yet. But I have been creeping on the thread, and will probably continue to do so going forward haha.
Out of the three nominations that I've seen, Perfect Blue is definitely my favourite. I rewatched it not too long ago, and liked it a lot more the second time around. Out of Satoshi Kon's work, I'd probably rank Paprika, Millennium Actress, and Tokyo Godfathers ahead of it, but it's still a very solid film. I thought that Bubba Ho-Tep was alright, but I haven't seen it in at least 10 years so I have no idea what I'd think of it on a rewatch. I haven't seen Snow White in even longer, but I never really liked it when I was a kid, and don't really have any interest in revisiting it.
I might check out Road to Perdition, since it looks like something I might enjoy, even though I don't really like Tom Hanks. I'd heard of it before, but waved it off since for some reason I thought it was like The Road to Avonlea. :lol:
Here's my review of my own nomination. Didn't copy it here yesterday in case there would be more chat about noms in general but here it is now:
Brimstone (2016) R
"People think it's the flames that make Hell unbearable. It's not. It is the absence of love."
After a child dies during birth Liz, the midwife held responsible, isn't afraid of the father's drunken rage but the newly arrived reverend. Her past has finally caught up with her and everyone she loves is in danger.
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Brimstone is brutal and gut-wrenching story of abuse and control. In it the religion is only a tool for oppression and fertile ground for evil to take root. Its tragedies are born of madness and unquestioning faith where cruelty becomes a virtue with a proper Bible quote. It's also a story of rebellion and love, of making a choice instead of following blindly.
With all it's religious undertones Brimstone feels almost biblical (or maybe anti-biblical). It's like Abraham and Isaac but in the film we have mothers and daughters who eventually refuse the sacrifice and rise against their divine oppressor. Some have complained that Brimstone is misogynist but in my opinion it's the opposite.
Cinematography and direction is great, music is OK (not very memorable but definitely not annoying) and script is mostly good as well (it's silly how Fanning's character doesn't seem to be able to make any sound due to her cut tongue though). Acting is brilliant (especially Pearce does one of the most vile and evil villains ever). I think some small edits could have been made to cut the length a bit.
Brimstone does things you don't expect from modern movies and I applaud it for that. It's heavy and brutal and makes you feel miserable. It has no major flaws, just some minor things keeping it little shy of the perfect rating.
4.5
10 minutes into Split...well good news pahaK Child Bride might no longer be my goto for terrible Hall of Fame choices.
On one hand that makes me kinda happy but on the other hand I'm worried by the fact that I still need to watch Split :D Maybe I'm lucky and we just disagree on the film...
Miss Vicky
01-29-19, 11:49 AM
I watched Abandon Ship last night. Will try to get it written up today.
All right, I've very recently seen my nomination, Snow White, so here's my review from a couple of weeks ago, abridged.
What is a protagonist? literaryterms.net defines it as:
just another word for “main character.” The story circles around this character’s experiences, and the audience is invited to see the world from his or her perspective. Note that the protagonist is not necessarily a “good guy.” Although most of the time the protagonist is some kind of hero, sometimes we see the whole story from the perspective of a villain.
From that definition, which I think is a pretty good one that most authors/artists used when drawing their protagonists, the protagonist of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is in fact the evil queen, whose jealousy and hatred eventually destroys her and all she worked towards. By this standard, which I think Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs was intended to be viewed as for adults, this film is an utter masterpiece, not only original and breathtakingly beautiful, but like nothing else Disney ever produced again. It is perhaps Disney's oddest film, the more I think about it. Even with Pinocchio, their second film, Disney had added in the "questioning of existence" part of their animated characters, and ever since, through Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King and up until Ralph Breaks the Internet, Disney heroes (notice I don't say protagonist) always have fought against both themselves and some existential force. Snow White, who I think is our hero, does not do this. Instead, she remains the most innocent, gullible, and stupid creation of Disney's. But this isn't necessarily a flaw, because Snow White isn't the character who is presenting the message and themes. It is the evil queen. So, although Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is incredibly dated from the perspective of female and male stereotypes, not-so-funny humor, and animation style, it's freshness penetrates through due to the evil queen's oddly relatable jealousy that dominates the film.
The characters are an interesting and fascinating thing in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Of course there is Snow White, a boring and predictable stereotype of the helpless princess. She charms animals, charms dwarfs, charms the prince, and everything ends happily for her. There does seem to be something almost unfair about how Snow White's naivety gets her to a beautiful life. But I also think there is a ring of truth to that- ignorance is bliss, as the saying goes, and we are often charmed by the innocent or the "stupid" people in our lives, who don't know what's going on but are still kind, and caring, and sweet. But Snow White isn't the film's focus, anyways. In fact, she can almost be seen as an antagonist. The only true goal in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is that of the evil queen, who hopes to become the fairest in the land. By killing Snow White - who the magic mirror has said is fairer then her - she can then be without question the most beautiful. The actions that follow in the film are the rising actions of the queen. As she pursues her goal, she succeeds in killing the innocent Snow White... but overlooks her own power and beauty and accidentally kills herself. So the failure of the evil queen relays the themes and values of the movie, not the successes of Snow White, who has no real goal that we can relate to. As for the dwarfs, they are good facile characters, who propel the plot of both the queen and of Snow White.
The themes and values I think are the most interesting part of all of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. To understand them, we must look at the evil queen as the protagonist once again. By killing Snow White, the evil queen has partially achieved her goal. If the film had ended with that, then perhaps a theme would have been that hatred and jealousy will prevail without consequence in an innocent world. By contrast, the fact that the queen dies changes the theme entirely, and notably without the effect of Snow White. The theme now is that jealousy, greed, and hatred will always come around and bite its owner. In Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs this is portrayed by a random lightning strike, making her death seem like fate. However, the fact that Snow White's friends are the ones that chased the queen to her fateful rock is more important. The good and the noble of this world, Disney is saying, will always fight back against evil; Thus, jealousy and hatred will be returned in due time. And now for the fascinating part, at least for me; I don't see that in any other Disney film. As stereotypical of a message it is, the final climax for every protagonist in most other Disney films occurs when the protagonist overcomes their conflict, learns to have confidence, or love, or forgive... the fighting evil part always seems to be in the background. They are two totally different messages that Disney gives us, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is one of their only films where this is not questioned - Snow White should go with her prince, the evil queen should die (it is only right), and the dwarfs should take care of her and love her. They can be seen as "fantastical" and "unrealistic," but actually the more I see it relates more to real life than the heroic and questioning characters of the Disney Renaissance and beyond.
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is worthy of praise for what it is as a film, not just what it influenced. Besides being the first fully animated movie of all time, it creates a magical atmosphere and themes that I don't see cropped up in any modern Disney movies. It presents a different look at culture, one where our "heroes" don't always question their purpose and one where the protagonist is a villain consumed by utmost jealousy. In the end, Snow White and her prince walk into their glorious palace, and I felt an odd feeling come over. And the truth is, it's because I realized Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs takes place in a world that is alien. Other Disney films have relatable locations or real locations... but nothing like this, a place that seems in the middle of the wilderness, where the animals understand us, where nothing stops a young girl from entering and making herself at home in a cottage, where a prince is always waiting around the corner; it is a beautiful world, but one removed from ours, all except for the evil queen. And perhaps the evil queen isn't so evil... she is the only real "human" in the film anyways, and the character that creates the themes and values of the film. And that is why Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs as a film is so relatable, but the world it takes place in is so different. It creates something new, always inventing and connects to me so well.
Rating: 4.5
Miss Vicky
01-29-19, 12:25 PM
That's abridged? :laugh:
Citizen Rules
01-29-19, 12:45 PM
As always, I'll l read everybody's movie write ups (and sometimes comment) after I've watched the movie. I did see one nom last night, so here it comes...
Citizen Rules
01-29-19, 01:03 PM
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Split (1989)
That's a screen shot from the video I watched. The image quality wasn't good and I bet that will effect people's enjoyment of the film. I try not to let poor IQ effect how I feel about a nom, but I sure wish I could've seen this on DVD.
I do think this film has merit. I bet most won't see that quality, but what I perceived was an experimental indie film that really tried to break new grounds in camera work and special effects...and all done on what must have been a shoe string budget. Some of the scene dissolves and the transitions from first focal point to second focal point to a third focal point were very effective. I do think if Orson Welles was alive he would've been impressed with the film's auteurs improvisation on film technique.
I wasn't much into the actual story though, but this is an out there art film more so than a standard flick, so the narrative isn't as important as the look of the film. That's why I say if I had seen a clean print on DVD I might have been even more impressed.
What intrigued me is: this nom seems so much like Joel. I've seen Joel's artwork he's created and read his colorful post on the board, and I swear this movie is like a vision into his artistically creative mind. I thought that was a pretty cool thing. As soon as I started watching the film I image Joel's presences was invibed into Split.
Miss Vicky
01-29-19, 01:43 PM
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Abandon Ship (a.k.a. Seven Days from Now, Seven Waves Away) (Richard Sale, 1957)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050091/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Date Watched: 01/28/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by Citizen Rules
Rewatch: No.
The premise of Seven Days From Now was strong and I did like how it made me think. However, there were quite a number of things about the film that bothered me or that I felt could have been done better.
My biggest gripe is the lack of character development. It's not often that I think a film could be improved by adding length, but in this case I think it would have been of benefit. As character after character died or was cast out to die, I felt very little because I didn't feel as if I knew them at all. An alternative to extending the film would have been to trim out some of its offal, in particular that pointless opening scene on the raft. I also found that scene distracting since the film takes the time to introduce us to the people on the raft but then we never see them again and I was left to wonder about their fates instead of focusing more intently on the events on the lifeboat. I was also a bit bothered by the inconsistencies and sometimes illogicality of decisions made by Alec and others. I know that they're human and humans make mistakes but I was particularly bothered by what happened after the death of the ship's captain and his body being dropped into the sea. Surely the space that was previously taken by a wounded man lying down could've accommodated at least one or two of the people left clinging to the sides in shark infested water, yet Alec ignored their pleas. I also don't recall anyone getting off the lifeboat in order to make room for Alec and the nurse to come aboard, so how was there room for those two but not room for two of the people in water? Speaking of those dangerous waters: if every person must do his or her fair share, why did Alec and his girl not take their turns in the water? The other thing that bothered me - at the risk of sounding heartless - was Alec's insistence on saving the child. He kept insisting that there be no "dead weight" and that only those strong enough to row and do his/her share of the work to save them would be spared. Yet he cast out the 18 year old. I get that the guy was small and not especially strong, but surely he would've been able to contribute more than the actual child? I feel like even the old woman would've been more helpful than the kid.
Ultimately a thought-provoking but irritatingly flawed film that I respect well enough but did not enjoy.
3-
10 minutes into Split...well good news pahaK Child Bride might no longer be my goto for terrible Hall of Fame choices.
Nonsense. Dontblisten to him pahaK.
Thisis up your alley. Youll see.
Had to start with Tom Hanks as one of my streaming services has the film until the end of this month.
Road to Perdition (2002) R
A mob enforcer's son accidentally witnesses his father at work. Things go even more wrong after the boss's idiot son panics and decides to get rid of the witness.
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It's been quite a while (about 15 years) since I last saw this but I remembered there's something that bothered me. It took me most of the film to figure out what it was. I absolutely hate the ending and the philosophy behind it. That's half a popcorn off the rating right there.
Visually Road to Perdition is beautiful and while I haven't read the comic I can imagine what it looks like. Its depiction of 1930s cities is almost surely flattering but definitely pleasing to the eye. Same goes to costumes and gear - pretty but little too polished and clean all the time. Film Noir styled rainy scenes add some darker tones to the palette.
There's a somber atmosphere in the film and it's rather obvious that there's no happy ending to this. I don't mind the predictability as it comes with the style but those character choices and reactions during the finale were awful. Otherwise characters were quite good and so was the acting (I don't like Hanks though and would have preferred someone else on the leading role).
Initially I though this was better than I remembered. Was planning to give four popcorn but after that stupid end I was contemplating between three and three-and-half but I feel generous today.
3.5
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Split (1989) is an arthouse indie film made by filmmakers who don't belong anywhere in an "arthouse". Cheaply made the movie is the equivalent of a crazy person standing in the middle of the street babbling about the government trying to steal his raisins. Actually that's not fair that would be more cohesive than what I just watched.
I'm sure the filmmakers love Ed Wood and John Waters but those films had a certain charm this was bereft of humor or style or any level of substance. I'm not entirely sure the script just wasn't a collection of the worst of Youtube comment sections.
I don't think this film even registers the standards of Red Letter Media
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Hmm, arthouse?
Never struck me as an arthouse. Definitely innovative staging and arty elements but more a comedy.
To me split is about an object serving as a catalyst to wake people up from programming, etc.
This ones easy to rag on if youre not vested in it, thats for sure.
Also, robocop and the matrix used production stills from this film to model their "innovations".
Lots of info out there about this film if interested.
Split (Chris Shaw; 1989)
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This was a weird one but overall I wasn't a fan. I felt that the plot was quite incoherent and disjointed for me to enjoy, and that most of the acting was pretty mediocre. I did however think that the film had some good visuals, especially considering the small budget of the film. While the film was able to keep my interest for the majority of its running, I felt that things got way too convoluted and over the top towards the end, at which point the film lost me. Overall I would say that this is an interesting nomination, but not the type of film I would find any value in.
Citizen Rules
01-29-19, 05:50 PM
Split (1989)rating_0 Have you ever gave a film a 0 before?
Hmm, arthouse?
Never struck me as an arthouse. Definitely innovative staging and arty elements but more a comedy. It's not arthouse, it's like what's called gorilla theater or like experimental movie making. Joel do you own this on laser disc?
Split (Chris Shaw; 1989)
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This was a weird one but overall I wasn't a fan. I felt that the plot was quite incoherent and disjointed for me to enjoy, and that most of the acting was pretty mediocre. I did however think that the film had some good visuals, especially considering the small budget of the film. While the film was able to keep my interest for the majority of its running, I felt that things got way too convoluted and over the top towards the end, at which point the film lost me. Overall I would say that this is an interesting nomination, but not the type of film I would find any value in.
I'm just happy ppl are watching it. It deserves an audience, I think. When this came out, and a decade or so after, it was much fresher and probably able to be appreciated a bit more. I can't be certain about that last part. I'm kind of weird so, we'll leave it at that.
It's not arthouse, it's like what's called gorilla theater or like experimental movie making. Joel do you own this on laser disc?
I loved your review of it! I own this on blu ray and dvd. Should I try and rip it onto youtube? There is no LD release of this sadly.
The blu ray looks AMAZING. It's shot in 4:3 so it was meant for home video even tho it had a brief theater run.
BTW you comparing me to this movie..that's interesting, I've never considered that. I suppose this film influenced me a lot. I mean, did you catch that scene transition from them driving with the cat in the carry on box in the back seat, to him carrying it, seamlessly, to her apt parking lot?
Woah!
Abandon Ship (Richard Sale; 1957)
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An interesting an thought provoking survival drama. Tyrone Power shines here in the lead role and the supporting cast is quite solid too. The film does quite well at portraying a moral dilemma and it meant the the film was able to keep me interested until the end. Overall, I did quite like this and thought that it was both gripping as well as good at making the viewer question the main character's ethics. Solid nomination.
I was kinda afraid that this isn't going to be for me. I rarely like horror comedies so the odds were stacked from the start.
Bubba Ho-Tep (2002) N
Elvis Presley and JFK (dyed black after the failed assassination attempt) fight against an evil mummy in a retirement home in Texas.
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Like so often with these cult classic horror comedies I don't find Bubba Ho-Tep particularly funny. Two main characters are somewhat interesting but even with them the concepts are better than the execution. That black JFK was by far the funniest thing in the movie.
In addition to not being particularly funny the biggest single flaw in the film is its failure to utilize the tools of the media. It feels like almost half of the dialogue is (boring) narration by Elvis which to me screams inability to tell the story through cinematic means. I don't like heavy narration on my films and Bubba Ho-Tep must be one of the worst offenders I've seen.
All the films attempts to have some deeper meanings about getting old and having regrets feel forced (I blame the narration again, it's not emotionally engaging to be told these things by the narrator without much connetion to rest of the film). Its best joke is the concept (Elvis and black JFK in a retirement home) but it's not enough to carry a whole feature film.
Another proof that horror comedies in general aren't my thing, especially the ones with cult status.
1.5
Have you ever gave a film a 0 before?
I normally don't announce my ratings when I do my reviews, because upon further thoughts I might change my opinion by a popcorn or not.
But because I'm running this I think it's important people know where I stand with each film.
edarsenal
01-30-19, 02:41 PM
I didn't join this HoF because I'm still trying to catch up on 2018 releases, and haven't done any rewatches for the Horror Countdown yet. But I have been creeping on the thread, and will probably continue to do so going forward haha.
Out of the three nominations that I've seen, Perfect Blue is definitely my favourite. I rewatched it not too long ago, and liked it a lot more the second time around. Out of Satoshi Kon's work, I'd probably rank Paprika, Millennium Actress, and Tokyo Godfathers ahead of it, but it's still a very solid film. I thought that Bubba Ho-Tep was alright, but I haven't seen it in at least 10 years so I have no idea what I'd think of it on a rewatch. I haven't seen Snow White in even longer, but I never really liked it when I was a kid, and don't really have any interest in revisiting it.
I might check out Road to Perdition, since it looks like something I might enjoy, even though I don't really like Tom Hanks. I'd heard of it before, but waved it off since for some reason I thought it was like The Road to Avonlea. :lol:
Is it creepy to say creeping is a good thing?? lol
I'd be curious to see what you thought of Perdition. I was a little hesitant the first time I saw it, regarding Hanks in such a role, but, as is his norm, he f@ckin nailed it. And to have Paul Newman and Jude Law along for the ride. . .
Miss Vicky
01-30-19, 03:00 PM
Bubba Ho-Tep (2002) N
1.5
Ouch. Comedy never does well in HOFs, so I wasn't expecting everyone to love this, but still. Hopefully it'll get more positive feedback than that. It's a former top ten film for me.
Ouch. Comedy never does well in HOFs, so I wasn't expecting everyone to love this, but still. Hopefully it'll get more positive feedback than that. It's a former top ten film for me.
We really need to do a comedy Hall of Fame, perhaps by era's
Miss Vicky
01-30-19, 03:11 PM
We really need to do a comedy Hall of Fame, perhaps by era's
We tried a Comedy HOF once and the result was... not good.
Massive fighting and the whole thing got cancelled.
Citizen Rules
01-30-19, 03:13 PM
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Bubba Ho-Tep (2002)
I must have spent 15 minutes tweaking the photo with Photoshop and another 15 minutes making the color fade title!...Why would I do that? Because I liked the movie! I thought this was a pretty cool movie. Anytime Elvis is on the screen I usually like the movie. Why? I'm not into his music, but Elvis is such an iconic character that he has his own sort of movie afterlife, and makes for an instantly recognizable & likeable movie character.
Bubba Ho-Tep reminded me of a cross between Elvis & Nixon (2016) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2093991/) & Barton Fink (1991) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101410/) both films I really liked. I dug the way Elvis was played and I liked his side kick President Kennedy too. Both actors fit their movie roles nicely and never took it too over the top, which I liked. Oh and the Lone Ranger guy, Kemosabe! I especially got a kick out of him blazing his pistols away at the evil soul sucker, and of course his guns are just toy guns, ha!
If this had been way more gory I would have hated it, but as it was, most of the emphasize was on Elvis and how he felt about his life wasting away in a nursing home. I liked Elvis' backstory and the way he related to the people in the home. The darkly lit corridors of the nursing home and the absences of other stuff going on, made the story of Elvis all the more interesting as the film was primarily focused on him.
I liked the mystery of the soul sucker and how they went about figuring it all out. I'm actually glad that the amount of time the soul sucker was onscreen was limited because I didn't really care about that part of the story as much as the other stuff. The director could even have went with it all being in the heads of Kennedy and Elvis and that would have been just fine with me. I'm sure most horror fans wanted the horror kicked up a couple of notches but not me, and that's another reason I liked this movie.
We tried a Comedy HOF once and the result was... not good.
Massive fighting and the whole thing got cancelled.
So the comedy HoF turned into comedy itself :D I may need to check the thread someday as I find the concept of HoF becoming a brawl somewhat weird.
Citizen Rules
01-30-19, 03:18 PM
We really need to do a comedy Hall of Fame, perhaps by era'sI'm up for that. You could host some of the eras, and I would host one too, or two, the others could host yet other eras. I like that idea.
We tried a Comedy HOF once and the result was... not good.
Massive fighting and the whole thing got cancelled. You need to host that:yup: I think it would work out this time.
My nomination is also a comedy so it'd be interesting to see how people react to that one too.
I'm up for that. You could host some of the eras, and I would host one too, or two, the others could host yet other eras. I like that idea.
You need to host that:yup: I think it would work out this time.
Yeah I think you'd want to go...
Classic 1900-1950 (Chaplin, Marx, Fields)
Satire 1951-1975 (Graduate, Singin the Rain, Dr. Strangelove)
Subversive 1975-2000 (Animal House, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop)
Modern 2001-Today
Miss Vicky
01-30-19, 05:11 PM
So the comedy HoF turned into comedy itself :D I may need to check the thread someday as I find the concept of HoF becoming a brawl somewhat weird.
The fighting was across multiple threads. It also wasn't the only specialty HOF to devolve into fighting. At one point one of the mods set up a committee of non-HOF people to review and make decisions about disagreements in the HOF. The intent of that was good, but it just made matters worse.
Basically one person tried to get one of the comedy noms removed because it didn't fit their personal definition of comedy (it was a horror comedy) and they didn't want to watch it.
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close
Well, this is a difficult movie to review I think, because of course it covers such a serious topic, one of the defining moments of the 21st century... but I think if one looks into the actual characters, filmmaking, music, etc., then the whole thing isn't that great. It is a story of a boy overcoming his fears and a loss - which is a noble idea, but it is presented in such a sappy, sentimental way that I don't really know how well it works out. The actors are pretty good, and there's some nice symbolism, such as the telephone calls and the swings. But that's nothing too original, and I'm frankly surprised this got nominated for best picture. Then again, it wasn't awful, and I did feel a strange mist in my eyes in some of the more emotional moments. But I think for the topic that it was dealing with, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close could have been so much better... but it turned rather into a sideshow that didn't really actually deal with the event at all. Anyways, I didn't dislike it by any means, but definitely not my favorite so far...
3.5
Miss Vicky
01-30-19, 05:47 PM
CitizenRules
Nice write-up! Glad you liked it. :)
Perfect Blue (Satoshi Kon; 1997)
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This was a film I wanted to see for some time so I was glad when it was nominated. Overall I liked it a lot. The animation was very good and the film had a pretty unsettling atmosphere. The story was quite well told and I definitely thought that the film did a good job of distorting between reality and fiction. Overall I really enjoyed this and will probably end up being one of my favourite noms.
Miss Vicky
01-31-19, 03:57 AM
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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (William Cottrell, David Hand, et al., 1937)
Imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029583/?ref_=nv_sr_2)
Date Watched: 01/30/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by ahwell
Rewatch: Yes
There's no denying the artistry of Snow White - that old school hand-drawn animation is absolutely gorgeous (especially on bluray) - and, of course, as Disney's first animated feature film it has historical significance - but damned if I'm just not all that fond of it.
A princess, plus an evil stepmother, plus magic spells, plus prince charming, plus a whole lot of singing equals Miss Vicky being annoyed for 83 minutes. It sure is pretty though.
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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (William Cottrell, David Hand, et al., 1937)
Imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029583/?ref_=nv_sr_2)
Date Watched: 01/30/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by ahwell
Rewatch: Yes
There's no denying the artistry of Snow White - that old school hand-drawn animation is absolutely gorgeous (especially on bluray) - and, of course, as Disney's first animated feature film it has historical significance - but damned if I'm just not all that fond of it.
A princess, plus an evil stepmother, plus magic spells, plus prince charming, plus a whole lot of singing equals Miss Vicky being annoyed for 83 minutes. It sure is pretty though.
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Sorry it annoyed you... maybe I should have gone with 2001: A Space Odyssey instead.
rauldc14
01-31-19, 12:17 PM
Oh God no. She would hate that.
rauldc14
01-31-19, 12:19 PM
Well actually she has already seen it.
Miss Vicky
01-31-19, 12:33 PM
Sorry it annoyed you.
No need to apologize. I've seen it many times and own it on bluray, so it's not like this was any kind of surprise. I am just happy to see some animation in this HOF. We don't usually get any in the general HOFs.
... maybe I should have gone with 2001: A Space Odyssey instead.
Yeah, no. I hate that movie. It's beautiful, but really boring. I'd much, much rather sit through 83 minutes of annoying but gorgeous animation than 149 minutes of a slow ass Stanley Kubrick Sci-Fi, even if it is impressive visually.
MovieMeditation
01-31-19, 01:18 PM
Been a while since I joined one of these. Looking in here is very tempting:flair:
Been a while since I joined one of these. Looking in here is very tempting:flair:
We'd love to have you
MovieMeditation
01-31-19, 01:22 PM
We'd love to have you
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Miss Vicky
01-31-19, 02:25 PM
Come on in, MM!
I'd also be cool with MM joining.
Bubba Ho-Tep (Don Coscarelli; 2002)
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This was a pretty fun movie. Bruce Campbell and Ossie Davies were both quite fun to watch and I feel that they both played their characters quite well. The plot was quite unique and the film was able to keep me interested throughout its entire runtime. The film worked quite well as a comedy and provided consistent laughs although I would've liked to have seen the horror elements be expanded on a bit more. Overall though this was a fun ride and I had a good time watching it.
Citizen Rules
01-31-19, 10:16 PM
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The Road to Perdition (2002)
Another fine nom in this HoF! I seen this some 15 years ago and I always remembered that I liked it, and that's saying a lot as I must have watched many 1000s of movies since then. I didn't remember the story line, but I did remember the 'feel' of the film. To me a film's ambiance is as important as the story. I just love the slower, more relaxed style of film making which permeates the film. That style might seem like an odd choice for a gangster film, but that introspective view is what makes The Road to Perdition something special. I actually prefer this to The Godfather.
Anytime Tom Hanks is in a movie I usually like it! The guy knows how to pick good film projects. I've not seen all of his film and not seen the other nom with him in it, but I've seen enough of Tom Hanks to know it's close to a sure thing that if he's in a film I'm going to like it.
There might be a story element in the film that I could say I would have done differently, but I'm starting to learn that no film is perfect and it's what a person makes of the experience that matters.
rauldc14
01-31-19, 10:28 PM
Been a while since I joined one of these. Looking in here is very tempting:flair:
Cool with you joining. Love your thoughts.
rauldc14
01-31-19, 10:47 PM
I'll get on the board tomorrow guys!
Sorry Citizen Rules but our tastes don't match this time either :shrug:
Abandon Ship (1957) N
A luxury liner hits a mine and sinks. Small group of survivors on a lifeboat waits for rescue.
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Couldn't resist this image :D
For most of the film Abandon Ship is very formal and orderly theater at sea. People speak one at a time and always correctly address each other. While I often dislike how in modern films such groups are at each others throats after a few minutes (as realistic as it may be) this one takes it too far to the other extreme.
The actual drama starts surprisingly late and isn't too engaging. I must say that I don't necessary agree with all of the captain's choices about the people to keep and I certainly don't agree with the reactions of some people who were chosen to stay. On a positive side at least the worst hypocrisy wasn't there (i.e. I was expecting the captain to die as a penance for his "horrible crime").
Overtly theatrical acting and melodramatic dialogue takes the edge off the drama. There's too many characters and it's hard to care about anyone in particular. Soundtrack was truly annoying. I didn't expect much so can't I say I was disappointed - Abandon Ship just isn't my type of movie.
1.5
Citizen Rules
02-01-19, 09:01 PM
pahaK I really thought you might at least like that one to some degree. OK I'm sure you're going to love Valley of the Dolls:D
And our 12 nomination is our first Foreign Language nom winner of the Palme D'Or
The Square
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And our 12 nomination is our first Foreign Language nom winner of the Palme D'Or
The Square
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Who nominated that? Glad it is nominated though cause been wanting to see it for a while now.
MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 12:37 PM
Who nominated that? Glad it is nominated though cause been wanting to see it for a while now.
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cricket
02-02-19, 12:54 PM
I sat this one out as I'm trying to focus on horror and new releases right now. Seen 6 of 12 and it looks like a pretty wide open race.
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 01:27 PM
I sat this one out as I'm trying to focus on horror and new releases right now. Seen 6 of 12 and it looks like a pretty wide open race.I might as well sit future HoFs out as pahaK is just going to hate every single nom I ever choose, there's just no way any of my noms have a chance of winning. Not that winning is a big deal but I'm loosing interest.
rauldc14
02-02-19, 01:29 PM
I might as well sit these HoFs out as pahaK is just going to hate every single nom I ever choose, there's just no way any of my noms have a chance of winning. Not that winning is a big deal but I'm loosing interest.
I wouldn't let that bother you. Miss Vicky usually hates mine.
Miss Vicky
02-02-19, 01:30 PM
I wouldn't let that bother you. Miss Vicky usually hates mine.
and edarsenal's. ;)
Welcome MM!
Miss Vicky
02-02-19, 01:34 PM
Siddon
Are we getting an extension on the deadline since there are now 12 films to watch? I usually finish way early anyway, but just in case.
rauldc14
02-02-19, 01:36 PM
I'll be watching Abandon Ship today.
cricket
02-02-19, 01:39 PM
I might as well sit these HoFs out as pahaK is just going to hate every single nom I ever choose, there's just no way any of my noms have a chance of winning. Not that winning is a big deal but I'm loosing interest.
I think he usually dislikes many of them and has a low rating scale anyway.
Miss Vicky
02-02-19, 01:39 PM
Gonna try to get at least two more watched this weekend.
@Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448)
Are we getting an extension on the deadline since there are now 12 films to watch? I usually finish way early anyway, but just in case.
I think we're good for now, most of these are short easy watches and people seem to be moving quickly.
MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 01:49 PM
I might as well sit these HoFs out as pahaK is just going to hate every single nom I ever choose, there's just no way any of my noms have a chance of winning. Not that winning is a big deal but I'm loosing interest.
Don’t. You always pick something I would never see. I love that. You know your old classics and lost treasures. That’s an area I always want to improve upon and explore. But I rarely do.
So from me: THANK YOU for keeping it real and nominating what you want instead of going with the masses and what might win. Thank you for picking those older flicks. And PLEASE don’t you go nowhere man, I just got here. :D
I might as well sit these HoFs out as pahaK is just going to hate every single nom I ever choose, there's just no way any of my noms have a chance of winning. Not that winning is a big deal but I'm loosing interest.
Someone suggested a rule of doing a short list so you can get feedback before making a nomination.
But I'm sorry you're losing interest.
I sat this one out as I'm trying to focus on horror and new releases right now. Seen 6 of 12 and it looks like a pretty wide open race.
Honestly its quite weird seeing a HoF without cricket.
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 02:01 PM
Someone suggested a rule of doing a short list so you can get feedback before making a nomination.
But I'm sorry you're losing interest.I'm in and will finish! I'm not a quitter. The noms are so far some of the best I've seen.
What I was I saying is I'm losing interest in future HoFs as I realize all of my noms will just get slammed by pahaK, I realized that last night when I looked through his two movie review log threads and noticed he basically hates everything: except horror...and that other thing he really likes;)
Movie Diary 2019 by pahaK (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=58479)
Movie Diary 2018 by pahaK (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=53663)
I might as well sit future HoFs out as pahaK is just going to hate every single nom I ever choose, there's just no way any of my noms have a chance of winning. Not that winning is a big deal but I'm loosing interest.
I assume you're joking but anyways - I may hate your noms but I truly like you. You're one of my favorite mofo's :up:
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 02:14 PM
I assume you're joking but anyways - I may hate your noms but I truly like you. You're one of my favorite mofo's :up: I like you as a person too, and I'm totally cool with people hating my noms, but after looking at your movie logs I realized you will hate every single movie I would ever nominate in an HoF. That's your business of course.
MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 02:21 PM
As always I usually do some thoughts on the nominations...
The Little Stranger (2018) - Nominated by Siddon
I'm not sure I've heard of this. I like the actors in it and the premise could be a nice little scare with more to it. I'm looking forward to it.
The Florida Project (2017) nominated by rauldc14
I've seen this and been meaning to rewatch it some day because I didn't like it much. Dafoe was amazing and it was competently put together. But it didn't click with me.
The Square (2017) nominated by MovieMeditation
My own nomination. A movie sure to challenge people on here. It's different, daring and ambitious. It's also stupid and completely ridiculous. A fun ride and interesting satire. Should at least be a different kind of watch for most.
Brimstone(2016) nominated by pahak
Never heard of it. Don't really know what to expect either.
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (2011) nominated by Neiba
I was once really interested in this but kind of forgot about it. I'm excited to see where it goes and if I will like it.
Bubba Ho-Tep (2002) nominated by MissVicky
HELL YES. Been on my watchlist for a while. I'm looking forward to this one!
Road to Perdition (2002) nominated by edarsenal
Seen it and it's a solid film. Looking forward to a rewatch.
Perfect Blue (1997) nominated by Nathaniel
Also seen this. Really solid anime. Let's see how a rewatch does...
Split (1989) nominated by Joel
Never heard of it. Looks very weird. I will look forward to also hearing what others think of this.
The King of Comedy(1982) nominated by Yam12
Oh yes. Long time no see on my watchlist. Can't wait.
Abandon Ship! aka Seven Waves Away (1957) Nominated by CitizenRules
Never heard of it but I'm very much looking forward to it!
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) nominated by Ahwell
A classic. I like this.
The few things I'll say about my nom (I have zero intention of actually winning this) is that it is severely dated and has a real funk around it. I know it won't be for everyone, possibly anyone, but, I just wanted to get it out there for the hopeful few who might get a kick out of it. I think it does have some interesting things to offer, absolutely, but I also know that it will sour the palate for a lot of people, and I guess I didn't consider that early on. That was my mistake. So - I don't know. I already bummed people out once with one of my noms, I'd hate to do it again. My minor plea is to just give it a chance in some way possible. If it's so bad you're crawling, just turn it off. That's totally cool with me.
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 03:03 PM
...I already bummed people out once with one of my noms, I'd hate to do it again. What one was that?
BTW I think if people can find a good copy of it, they would enjoy it much more.
What one was that?
BTW I think if people can find a good copy of it, they would enjoy it much more.
It was Hunter's Blood - but at least that film was in a B-Movie HoF!
I hate to even suggest this but I believe because of the quality out there now on youtube, and short of buying it's gorgeous new blu ray release from Verboden Video, this is a circumstance that may require a phone viewing, or tablet of smaller size, and a set of headphones or earbuds - turned down comfortably. The mixing is bad because the film maker is quite clearly a novice and thinks too fast. Also, it's a before bed type of thing. Unless you drink strong coffee, stand and run in place while watching movies during high noon with the blinds wide open, violently throwing your arms out with stiff and sudden jabs screaming "Let's get it on!"
Miss Vicky
02-02-19, 03:16 PM
I like you as a person too, and I'm totally cool with people hating my noms, but after looking at your movie logs I realized you will hate every single movie I would ever nominate in an HoF. That's your business of course.
I always assume that at least one person is going to hate whatever I nominate.
I usually worry more about what I'm going to hate. :laugh:
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 03:16 PM
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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
One of the great classic Disney animations...and I had never ever seen it before, until now. I see that the movie is on Roger Ebert's Great Movies list and AFI's 100 Years 100 Movies list. So I know a lot of people appreciate the film.
I too appreciated the beauty and artistry of the hand drawn animation. It's so lovely to look at, so richly detailed that the scenes come to life right before our eyes. The camera work too is surprisingly fluid and cinematic.
I loved the way the film opens with a 'dolly in' shot as the camera moves closer to the evil queen's castle, then it dissolves to the next shot - a close up of the castle...and then we move closer, focusing on a window in the castle's turret - then another dissolve to the third shot and we're on the back of the queen looking into the talking magic mirror. I thought that was all pretty damn impressive, and there's many sequences in the film like that. It's truly made to a high artistic degree.
I love old movies because they're like a time machine back to the past. The past is never really gone, it's just a place that doesn't exist in our current time continuum...and movies are the one way people from that distant past can speak to us. So the odd thing for me was that I knew I was watching a film from 1938 and yet because it was animated it didn't at first seem like a portal to the past. But then I listened to the way Snow White sang along with the Prince and they reminded me of Jeanette MacDonald & Nelson Eddy who were the most popular singing/acting duel in the movies at the time. Snow White seemed patterned after Jeanette MacDonald and I swear Dopey was based on Harpo.
@ahwell (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=101613) thanks! for nominating this
cricket
02-02-19, 03:32 PM
It was Hunter's Blood - but at least that film was in a B-Movie HoF!
That looks like something I'd like. It didn't do well?
The Florida Project (2017)
Director: Sean Baker
The Florida Project centers around a stripper who is "raising" her little girl while living in a motel. For a good portion of the movie, we follow around the area kids as they run through the streets and break into abandoned buildings to vandalize or just horse around. Many of the scenes are distanced, so, you'll see w ide shot from about 100 ft away, and the dialog will be that far away, too. You may not be able to clearly hear a lot of the dialog. This is not very important. This film works on a mood and atmosphere.
Willem Dafoe plays the motel manager. He comes across as a good guy who may be working on rebuilding a relationship with his estranged son who he hires on as his employee. That's enough backstory to have something to go on for Dafoe's character. Many times he is pounding on stripper-mom's door to instill obvious rules like "no more hooking" or "no smoking in the room", but as much as he comes off stern and strict, he never gives the impression that he is a spiteful or mean-spirited or jaded man. He takes his job seriously and has a degree of pride ("I'm going to fix that washer by the end of the week").
He watches out for the kids, even having to aggressively escort an old pervert off of the property. We see his rage in that brief moment where he calls out a criminal's number.
Dafoe is nothing short of outstanding in this film and I feel his subtlety is among his very best work.
While the mother hustles any way she can to provide for her daughter, it's clear that she has no real parenting skills when it comes to manners or conservative attitude. She swears, smokes and instigates as she would with anyone as manic and wild as she is. Her daughter knows nothing else but this world, hanging around these kinds of people who have no pretensions. It's all just gut and reaction, violence, glee and a dead beat way of life.
This is for sure a cautionary tale, but it also serves as a windmill of chance. The picture takes you wherever it goes. It hasn't set up rules for morality, even though there are certain notes that had me welling up with tears as I felt very heavy for the mother and daughter, who really did enjoy each other's company and loved each other very much. Dafoe's character recognizes this, and you can see it on his face, th pain he shares with them as he covertly tries to help them out without drawing attention to bending motel policies.
Director Baker's camera is a mixed bag of Arri Alexa and Filmic Pro from Iphone. The mix is beautiful. The colors of these motels across the way from one another, as well as the decrepit condos are staggeringly beautiful in a dayglo and pastel overload sort of way. I believe this was a multi format picture where Baker had his DP use an iphone 6s running Filmicpro, as well as an Alexa cinema cam, and then printed the final edit onto Kodak film, which really gives TFP a dense and rich look. This is my own personal answer to the stylings of Spring Breakers, another fulked up film that turned me off, unlike TFP, which made me perk up and enjoy the images and story.
The beauty in these perfectly photographed scenes are the perfect canvas for the children narrative, where they end up in rain storms sitting in a long haired tree, or a fireworks show, or just walking on the side of a main drag as the sun projects a green and purple flare across their silhouette sundown storybook master shot.
I'd see this again, though, it'd have to be a while because this is a bit of a disturbing drama. I don't like to see such a foul place for children, but then again, the kids make it work for themselves. I suppose at the end of the day, regardless of what "normal" people see in these "white trash" lifestyles, love rules supreme, even with the blisters of violence and danger abound. There is still an innocence, and what sinner can be brought to the gallows until they are clued in that what they are and what they do, is even considered a sin by someone else's loftier standards of living. Justice does prevail, but we are not left on a note of closure, we are left on an adrenalized flight of fancy with a very uncertain future.
4.5
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That looks like something I'd like. It didn't do well?
I liked Hunter's Blood a lot and scored it very highly for what it was.
Split however was horrid
BUBBA HO-TEP (2002)
Director: Don Coscarelli
I find myself being drawn to movies that take the better part or more of a decade to fully blossom into my favorites list. Bubba Ho Tep is one of those films.
The first time I saw this movie I thought it was a misfire, and it very well may be a misfire. Some of the humor doesn't quite translate and comes off a bit dorky and thin to me. A few of the narration lines seem less than poetic and don't have enough meat on their bones to be truly effective. Almost like the writing was too watery or the delivery wasn't convincing enough. Sort of like it tries to be a bit profound but doesn't quite nail it with a full confidence. I also felt that this picture was very slowly paced and not very exciting at all. The climax was hum drum, the moments leading up to it seemed like they needed to be about 10 minutes longer with more sentiment and humor. I felt that icons such as JFK and Elvis deserved more gravity and depth.
After several re-watches of Bubba Ho Tep I began to find things that I did like about it.
I mean, what can I expect? It's the only film of its kind and no one seems to be rushing to make a sequel (which would be terrific!). The slow pace is more my speed these days. It's a perfect before bed movie to nod off to. The acting by Bruce Campbell as Elvis is funny. I'm not sure I could call him the best Elvis because I thought Kurt Russell and David Keith both were strong portrayers of the King, but Campbell's take on him is definitely the most bold and memorable. So, I guess that means Bruce's Elvis is my favorite. I keep changing my mind even as I write this review. And I'm not sure that "portrayers" is even a word but I'll move on.
There is no shortage on atmosphere here. The hallways of the convalescent home are dark, the trim shows signs of half a century old mildew stains, we hear the sound of an organ warming up with its dual fans as an elderly woman prepares to play in the community room, the campus lawn is illuminated with sparse lights and lend a very effectively eerie scape for the mummy to walk on.
I forgot to say that this film is about a mummy terrorizing the souls of old people and a black John F. Kennedy reincarnate by government meddling teams up with an Elvis impersonator (not really, though) to battle the evil beast.
What a concept that is! Bubba Ho Tep is based on a short story that director Don Coscarelli was referred to at a local book store. That would explain the length of the film and the lack of depth (maybe) of the characters. Don't get me wrong, there is backstory, and a zinger of a flashback at that, but it still seems truncated. I would have loved it if Coscarelli had brought in more writing power to really kick this film up a few more notches. The potential was there for this to be one of the very best genre defying films of all time.
Dramatic elements of the story are carried on the shoulders of composer Brian Tyler. His simple and heartfelt score really bring home the bacon for the emotional component that drives this movie as a semi serious drama. Without such a fantastic music score I do not believe this film would have worked on any level outside of it being a freakish premise. It does transcend that goofy story. It does it as well as I can expect. And for me to keep complaining that Bubba Ho Tep isn't good enough because it was a missed opportunity wouldn't help a thing. It's done and it has had success as the cult film it should be.
I watch this movie about once every two years and I appreciate it more every time, though, my initial reservations about it remain the same.
Sometimes it just happens like that. It's not a perfect movie, and maybe it never could be, but while it's here on Earth, protected in canisters, and not the victim of a complete society nuclear blast, it's appreciated. I would send this one out to space pretty soon for safe keeping.
I liked Hunter's Blood a lot and scored it very highly for what it was.
Split however was horrid
I can understand that opinion about Split. I think under better circumstances, and maybe stumbling upon it yourself with a complimentary life event fabric, you've may've enjoyed it more.
Miss Vicky
02-02-19, 03:42 PM
Glad you like it, Joel!
It's the only film of its kind and no one seems to be rushing to make a sequel (which would be terrific!).
There were plans to make a sequel called Bubba Nosferatu, but Campbell and Coscarelli had a falling out. Don't know if it'll ever get made now.
Glad you like it, Joel!
There were plans to make a sequel called Bubba Nosferatu, but Campbell and Coscarelli had a falling out. Don't know if it'll ever get made now.
I read about that, too. It's unfortunate because just the fact that they had a falling out seems kind of tragic. I like both of them a lot.
That looks like something I'd like. It didn't do well?
It did OK. It was perfectly at home in that particular tournament. However I chose my current nom as if I was still in the B Movie HoF, and just kind of realized it too late, after I submitted it.
MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 04:01 PM
One of the great classic Disney animations...and I had never ever seen it before
Whaaaat
You keep surprising me with the stuff you've never seen, CR. :p
rauldc14
02-02-19, 04:03 PM
I haven't seen Snow White in so long. Very much look forward to it.
I like you as a person too, and I'm totally cool with people hating my noms, but after looking at your movie logs I realized you will hate every single movie I would ever nominate in an HoF. That's your business of course.
I did like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in either of the 30s HoFs (at least I remember that was your nom) and I ranked Cherry 2000 quite high in B-movie HoF. So while I admit that our tastes are quite far from each other I still think you're exaggerating.
And I do like films that aren't horror or have young girls in them (as a matter fact majority of good films I've seen this year are neither) :D
SPLIT (1989)
Director: Chris Shaw
Once upon a time a mathematician made a low budget sci-fi comedy that went virtually unnoticed direct to video. The effects used were rendered frame by frame with live models, and were also representative of some early, and very hand made use of CGI-like wizardry.
These effects have an analogous feel to them and lend themselves to a certain texture, visually. Though dated and silly by today's standards, those into the tech side of film making may benefit from this in some way.
Split did get some press at the time, it has since been forgotten and ushered out of public eye by weak distribution and a seemingly reclusive director Chris Shaw.
Picture George Orwell at a dinner party with Alex Cox. That is "Split".
There is a keen sense of awareness on display from Director Shaw much like that of Alex Cox's "Repo Man". Shaw's characters aren't stupid, and if they appear stupid, they are only pretending to be really stupid.
A man uses multiple disguises to harbor the secret god particle from the mad man government.
Our protagonist dodges dangerous operatives, spy plants and waitresses. His sugar addiction has him manic, but his panic runs much deeper. He is seen eluding art snobs, extremists and even veterinarians.
Scenes weave from exotic location to picturesque America. Camera movements are particular and elaborate.
Transitions are acid trip inspired. On screen personalities waver from anchored to completely fried within a minute at a time. Dialog is clever and concise, shrouded in an obnoxious tone.
The dialog is recorded and edited very poorly. This was a novice mistake on Shaw's part, but the frantic energy almost forces those even mildly invested into Split to pay closer attention to the genesis of what this thing is about, and what it doesn't even try to be about. It is not cohesive. It flirts the edges of the subconscious and absurd.
The viewer has to look past the budgetary limitations and surrender to the complete weirdness. If one does this as they should, one will be rewarded with a thought provoking comedy.
This is a film not to miss for cerebral types with a healthy and twisted sense of humor.
One of the great classic Disney animations...and I had never ever seen it before
Whaaaat
You keep surprising me with the stuff you've never seen, CR. :p
I also haven't seen it.
The King of Comedy (1982)
Dir:Martin Scorsese
I've seen this movie before. Just recently I watched it again so it's fresh enough to talk about.
I don't know what to say. It's put together so well. The performances are all great. It's a zany movie with a dark underbelly dealing with fanaticism, obsession, and delusions of grandeur coming into a possible threat of violence.
This is definitely a dark comedy. It seems more a continuation on Taxi Driver's tone, but with this super uncommon element of having Jerry Lewis play what seems to be not much of a stretch for a jaded showman who is steadfast into his elder years as a tv personality and american funnyman.
The movie is rated PG but has the soul of an R rated film if that makes any sense. That's how movies were done back in the day it seems. The tonalities were everything. This is a very against-type sort of Scorsese picture and I think it stands the test of time as an item of interest.
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Perfect Blue(1997) is the story of Mima a popstar who aging out of her girl group decides to move onto film. When she takes a significantly more adult role she begins to be stalked and her crew members end up murdered.
One of the advantages of a film like this was that it was supposed to be live action but with budget cuts it became animated. By doing this by doing this the film actually managed to become creepier in several key areas. It's hard to describe how unsettling simple changes in characters appearances look and walk are but it's very effective.
The film also has quite a bit to say about feminism, celebrity culture, and identity so you have this fantastic Gaillo style animated film but you've also got quite a bit of substance to it. The main character Mima is very well flushed out which unfortunately leads to my two knocks I have on the film.
One is technical with the other one structural. The film is somewhat of a mystery film and the films biggest weakness is that the supporting cast is filled with fairly shallow and one dimensional figures. It could have used 30 minutes or so to fill everyone out so that the reveals and the murders are more rewarding. Ghost in the Shell and Akira both managed to have a large supporting cast but Perfect Blue really is just Mima's show.
The other issue I had with the film was the animation was TV quality not film quality, Akira came out almost ten years before this yet comparing the two films you'd think Akira came 10 years afterwards. Much like It it manages to overcome budgetary limit's with unsettling visuals and scenes but I do wonder if we're ready for a non-animated remake here.
rating_3_5
rauldc14
02-02-19, 04:50 PM
Abandon Ship
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Have no fear guys I am finally on the board and started with this seafaring adventure! I liked Tyrone Power and specifically remember his strong performance in Witness for the Prosecution. And he was pretty solid here as the next Captain in command. He had to be, as the rest of the cast to me seemed to range from pitiful to below mediocre. I thought the two females in particular just weren't very good at all.
Like Miss Vicky I liked the premise of the film but I felt that the dangers of the waters should have been showcased a bit more to be entertaining. Maybe a nice big shark attack or something to liven it up. I will give the film props for even making me feel seasick with the continuous sound of the ocean waves even irritating me a bit. So it certainly did it's job there.
I liked how the film ended, making us ultimately decide if Powers character was a hero or a villain. A nice way to end that you don't usually see. Overall, this is a film though that I will honestly probably forget about in the future as it just didn't have enough zing for me. Still, it's cool to give these films I've never heard of a shot. Never know when I could find my next Red Dust.
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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
One of the great classic Disney animations...and I had never ever seen it before, until now. I see that the movie is on Roger Ebert's Great Movies list and AFI's 100 Years 100 Movies list. So I know a lot of people appreciate the film.
I too appreciated the beauty and artistry of the hand drawn animation. It's so lovely to look at, so richly detailed that the scenes come to life right before our eyes. The camera work too is surprisingly fluid and cinematic.
I loved the way the film opens with a 'dolly in' shot as the camera moves closer to the evil queen's castle, then it dissolves to the next shot - a close up of the castle...and then we move closer, focusing on a window in the castle's turret - then another dissolve to the third shot and we're on the back of the queen looking into the talking magic mirror. I thought that was all pretty damn impressive, and there's many sequences in the film like that. It's truly made to a high artistic degree.
I love old movies because they're like a time machine back to the past. The past is never really gone, it's just a place that doesn't exist in our current time continuum...and movies are the one way people from that distant past can speak to us. So the odd thing for me was that I knew I was watching a film from 1938 and yet because it was animated it didn't at first seem like a portal to the past. But then I listened to the way Snow White sang along with the Prince and they reminded me of Jeanette MacDonald & Nelson Eddy who were the most popular singing/acting duel in the movies at the time. Snow White seemed patterned after Jeanette MacDonald and I swear Dopey was based on Harpo.
@ahwell (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=101613) thanks! for nominating this
Finally, someone liked it!
Continued with the first animated feature of this HoF.
Perfect Blue (1997) N
A pop idol gives up her singing career and starts pursuing a new one as an actress. But someone isn't happy about the change and wants the old Mima back.
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Perfect Blue is practically an animated giallo. Its story and, to slightly lesser degree, visuals are heavily influence by the Italian classics. A live action version set in continental Europe would have been a decent match for someone like Dario Argento.
I found the story little too convoluted myself with all its PoV changes, repeats and constantly mixing the show with reality. I think I would have preferred the solution that was implied about twenty minutes before the end but it ended up being a part of the show Mima was filming. Not that I hated the real ending either but other one would have explained all the supernatural away better.
I'm not a huge fan of animated films so that's a little turn-off for me. There are some nice shots but I can't help myself thinking how much better they would look with real actors. Soundtrack was pretty nice and the first J-pop song was OK too.
As a whole Perfect Blue was better than I expected. I'd say it's pretty average giallo.
2.5
CosmicRunaway
02-02-19, 05:00 PM
...and movies are the one way people from that distant past can speak to us.
Wait, you guys don't hear the voices of the dead?
I mean, yeah, no, me neither. :shifty:
Nathaniel
02-02-19, 05:16 PM
Anything more than 0.5 from pahaK is a win so I'll take it.
Anything more than 0.5 from pahaK is a win so I'll take it.
It's easy to be a winner if you set your bar low enough :D
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 06:10 PM
Abandon Ship
rating_2 Somehow that makes me feel better, I don't know why but it does.
BTW do you guys know this is based on a true story where people were melodramatically ordered out of a life boat into the water to die.
The film is loosely based on an incident at sea in 1841 when a ship hit an iceberg and sank. The boat was overloaded and leaking. The ranking crew member, First Mate Francis Rhodes, ordered the crew to jettison all male passengers, saving the women and children. Sixteen men were sacrificed. The survivors were rescued the next day and upon reaching port in Philadelphia brought charges of murder. First Mate Francis Rhodes was nowhere to be found so one of the crew, Alexander Holmes, was charged. He got six months in jail and a twenty dollar fine. No one else was tried.
Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 06:22 PM
Whaaaat
You keep surprising me with the stuff you've never seen, CR. :p I know! When it comes to classic Disney films I've seen like next to none. When I was a kid, back in the dinosaur days, we didn't have DVDs or even VCRs, so the only way I could see a Disney movie was on TV and we had only the one TV and my dad would always end up watching Gunsmoke or something like that.
Somehow that makes me feel better, I don't know why but it does.
BTW do you guys know this is based on a true story where people were melodramatically ordered out of a life boat into the water to die.
After I watched it I did do a little reading about the story. Some interesting stuff.
MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 08:20 PM
I originally planned on starting this today but I had to prioritize Velvet Buzzsaw on Netflix, because I promised to review it for the site I write for. The prioritizing wasn’t worth it unfortunately...
Anyways, I probably can’t start Sunday either because of Super Bowl but do expect Monday to be a lazy day because of exactly that, so I might get one or two in by then! :up:
cricket
02-02-19, 08:22 PM
Anyways, I probably can’t start Sunday either because of Super Bowl but do expect Monday to be a lazy day because of exactly that, so I might get one or two in by then! :up:
Who are you rooting for?
MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 08:25 PM
Who are you rooting for?
Probably Rams because it’s always about The Patriots.
cricket
02-02-19, 08:27 PM
Probably Rams because it’s always about The Patriots.
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MovieMeditation
02-02-19, 08:33 PM
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Citizen Rules
02-02-19, 08:41 PM
Super Bowl is tomorrow, I didn't know that. Think I'll use that opportunity to go plant some trees, not joking either!
Super Bowl is tomorrow, I didn't know that. Think I'll use that opportunity to go plant some trees, not joking either!
Hahahaha!
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Citizen Rules
02-03-19, 12:04 AM
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Perfect Blue (1997)
*spoilers*
I was enjoying the first half of the movie with it's introspective look at the life of a young second-level pop star, turned aspiring actress. Her initial identity crisis as she shed her old persona of the girly pop star for her new grown up one, was something I hadn't seen represented in a movie before. That first part was well done and interesting.
The mystery of someone stalking her worked OK too, though I didn't really need that in the story as Mima's soul searching journey was more than enough for me. But when the second half started going into her unwinding psyche, the film starting loosing some of my interest, but I was still onboard at that point.
But damn I got so annoyed at the overuse of that silly scene of her apparently loosing her mind...being presented like it was really happening...only to find out seconds later that was her on the set of the movie she was making. OK once was a clever trick, maybe even twice that scene worked, but when they went to that trick-well 4 or 5 times it really started pissing me off. I hate it when films through in mind f*** stuff trying to look deep, Annihilation did that too, and to me that means the film makers didn't have anything deeper to say.
A lot of what I seen in the last 30 minutes was so convoluted and nonsensical that I got bored and must have checked the remaining time a dozen times. I'm still not sure how her female manager could be appearing as Mima the pop idol to her, unless the actress was nuts too. Oh well at least I liked the Neon Tetras.
Miss Vicky
02-03-19, 12:51 AM
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Split (Chris Shaw, 1989)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098374/)
Date Watched: 02/02/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by Joel
Rewatch: No.
What the **** did I just watch?
Yes, I realize it's a low budget film. Yes, I realize it's 30 years old. And, yes, I realize that the copy available on YouTube isn't exactly top notch quality. But still, what the **** did I just watch?
This movie felt like it was being bizarre for the sake of being bizarre - and sometimes I can get behind that sort of thing: if the actual concept is intriguing, if the acting is good, if the writing is good. But none of that seemed to be happening here. I'll grant that there were a few scenes with interesting visuals, but that's the extent of the praise I can give it. Its runtime is only a little shy of an hour and half, but it felt so much longer than that and was an absolute chore to get through. I lost track of how often I checked the remaining time and how many times I paused it to take a break. I wanted so badly to shut it off for good and were it not for my obligation to watch it for the Hall of Fame, I wouldn't have finished it.
Perhaps my experience would've been greatly improved if I'd been under the influence of something while watching, but I don't partake so... yeah I hated this.
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It's interesting to hear the reception of Split. I didn't really even consider, going into this HoF, whether or not this would be well or poorly received. It's one of those trash style movies. I could say that this was a self prophetic tale of surveillance that is very relevant today - with all of the cameras everywhere - but that really wouldn't be the reason to say I enjoyed it like I did. I suppose it's something I didn't consider for anyone else - it got to me at just the right time. But having said all of that, that's really more than I should say about this movie. I think next time I'll make it a point to choose something with others in mind. This was a total unintentional "challenge" submission, and god knows I hate those kinds of entries.
Miss Vicky
02-04-19, 05:00 AM
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Road to Perdition (Sam Mendes, 2002)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0257044/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Date Watched: 02/03/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by edarsenal
Rewatch: Yes
I've seen this film once before - 17 years ago when it was still in the theater. I didn't care at all for the film back then and when I saw it nominated for this Hall of Fame - and by edarsenal, whose nominations I never seem to like - I was not too enthused.
Watching it tonight, I really have to question why I disliked it all those years ago. I've never found the subject of mobsters all that interesting, but I was really drawn in by the way this film was presented and its focus on the relationship between the father and son. The performances were all quite good, with Tom Hanks - stepping out a bit from his usual good guy roles - and Jude Law, who I normally dislike, the standouts. I also really liked the dark, moody look of the film as well and found this to be overall a very solid and engaging watch. I doubt it'll ever become a personal favorite, but I expect it'll rank high on my HOF ballot.
3.5+
Citizen Rules
02-04-19, 12:31 PM
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Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (2011)
Decent movie, crummy title. I would've called it something like 'Falling Down Boy'...or "Key Lucent Dreams'. I think I like 'Falling Down Boy' the best, it has a nice ring to it.
I'm not surprised Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close was nominated for Best Picture Oscar in 2012. It would've seemed to be Oscar bound with it's peripheral tale of the 9/11 events as told through the eyes of a boy with Asperger's Syndrome...along with a side tale of the mysterious man who can't speak...add to that the various people the boy meets as he searches for the lock that fits a key that his father left behind.
With all that going for the film and some choice city scape cinematography, the film would've seemed like a shoe in for the Oscar. And while I appreciate the layered story effect and unique perspective on the 9/11 terrorist attacks, I surprisingly felt no emotion at what I image is suppose to be a heart wrenching film. If anything I was annoyed at the kid who acted more like an ass than an empathetic character. And without me caring about the boy our his mission, the film left me out in the cold.
I wish the director had filmed the movie more from the boys perspective especially when he goes to meet the people named Black. Instead those scenes of interaction which should have been the most rewarding and dynamic, were mere snippets. Even the scene with Viola Davis (the best actor in the film and best scene too) starts in the middle of the boy meeting her. I would've liked to seen their encounter from the very moment the boy rang her door bell. As it was that scene lost any emotional power it had for the sake of brevity.
Where brevity was needed was after the resolution of the mysterious key. Having Sandra Bullock then recount her own story about how she followed the boy around, was unneeded and over padded. I'm guessing that was done so Ms Bullock could have more air time.
It might sound like I'm hard on the movie but it's just when I like a movie I can't help but go into director mode and think of how I would've done things differently.
Just watched Road to Perdition. Will try to get a write-up done soon.
rauldc14
02-04-19, 09:18 PM
Going to watch Split next, either Tuesday or Wednesday
Road to Perdition (Sam Mendes; 2002)
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This was pretty good. Thought it was quite a solid mob flick that is pretty well directed and has some beautiful cinematography. The performances were quite solid too, particularly Tom Hanks, Paul Newman and Jude Law. I also felt that the film did quite a good job at portraying the father-son relationship between the two main characters, and the film as whole kept me interested throughout. Overall quite a solid nom.
Miss Vicky
02-04-19, 10:22 PM
Gonna try to knock another one out tonight.
Everything that's left I either own, have borrowed from the library, or can stream free on Amazon - except The Little Stranger. I'm 35th in line to borrow that one from the library so not sure when I'll be able to get to it, but I should have the rest done pretty quickly.
@edarsenal *Nomination received
@Neiba *Nomination received
@Nathaniel *Nomination received
@MovieMeditation *Nomination received
Remember February 11th is the first deadline to get your first review in, if you PM me I'll grant you a week extension
Citizen Rules
02-04-19, 10:49 PM
Gonna try to knock another one out tonight.
Everything that's left I either own, have borrowed from the library, or can stream free on Amazon - except The Little Stranger. I'm 35th in line to borrow that one from the library so not sure when I'll be able to get to it, but I should have the rest done pretty quickly. 35th? damn! that's a lot of people, though I suppose it depends on the number of copies in your library system. If you need a link for it just give a shout out.
Uh...watching that film on a Computer Screen is such a waste
Citizen Rules
02-05-19, 02:17 AM
Uh...watching that film on a Computer Screen is such a waste Who's watching it on a computer screen? Not me, I use my TV for that.
Miss Vicky
02-05-19, 04:43 AM
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Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close (Stephen Daldry, 2011)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477302/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Date Watched: 02/04/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by neiba
Rewatch: No
I have avoided watching this movie for the last eight years. I have a personal aversion to films that are made about tragedies that occurred not only in my lifetime, but recently enough for me to remember them. This is especially true of any Hollywood movies involving the attacks on the World Trade Center. The inclusion of such events just feels like a cheap, lazy, and opportunistic way of garnering the audience's sympathy without putting in the work of telling a compelling story and presenting the viewers with well constructed characters.
So needless to say I was anything but unbiased going into Extremely Loud. I had hoped though that I would be able to overcome that bias, but unfortunately I could not. Not only did that feeling of cheapness never go away, but another huge hurdle to my enjoyment was the film's protagonist, Oskar. I hated that kid. I get that he has Asperger's or is somewhere on the spectrum or whatever. I get that he is angry and confused and struggling to cope with his father's death - but damn that kid was an obnoxious a-hole. I really disliked him from the start and it made it quite a struggle for me to stay engaged or to feel anything when he finally broke down and came to terms with what happened. Despite an impressive ensemble cast, the only character I felt anything for was "the Renter," played by Max Von Sydow who never even spoke.
Ultimately this film that was meant to be touching only left me feeling cold.
2
Abandon Ship!
This movie was a real struggle for me. In the end, it posed a really fascinating moral question - is Holmes's actions murder or not murder? But other than this question, there's nothing too intriguing or cool about the movie.
Things I really enjoyed:
The themes and values - is it murder or not murder?
The originality - Although it's based off of a true story, I still think the plot idea was highly original.
Things I thought were okay:
Rewatchability - Although fairly short, it was a bit of a drag for me.
Characters - Some of the characters are interesting, but there are just so many that it's hard to develop them.
Things I thought were mediocre/not very good:
Script - There's not much originality with the script.
Structure - Our main character has no real conflict or goals, so the structure falls apart (unless we make the whole boat the protagonist).
Acting - The acting seemed very forced.
Pacing - The main conflict didn't even start until almost an hour in.
Visuals - Nothing too special.
Things I thought were really bad:
Music - I really disliked the music, and there was almost none.
3
Split
Wow.
Just, absolutely wow.
When it physically hurts to watch and listen to a movie, it's pretty bad.
Things I liked:
Originality. It was really original, I'll give it that. Never seen anything like it.
Things I disliked:
Everything else. This is pretentious BS, no other way of putting it. It doesn't make any sense, doesn't try to make any sense, doesn't achieve anything worth anyone's time. The visuals hurt to watch, the sound hurts to listen to. The acting sucks, there's no pacing or structure. Someone slapped together a movie that they thought was confusing enough that people would hail it as a masterpiece so they didn't seem like an idiot because they don't understand the movie. Split is not my movie, my apologies.
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MovieMeditation
02-05-19, 11:35 AM
18th Hall of Fame
“Bubba Ho-Tep”
2002
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The King's back, baby...
The premise is utterly ridiculous but laid out the groundworks for what could be a campy class-act by Bruce Campbell, going balls out (or cock out) in this insane role of a might-be-might-not-be-Elvis-impersonator fighting a mighty Egyptian ex-emperor. It turned out that the best thing about this was indeed Campbell, as the King of Rock n' Roll, though there wasn't much rocking nor rolling going on in this film; it was more about walkers and rocking chairs than anything... and bed snakes... and beetles... and black guys pretending to be John F. Kennedy.
I liked the premise well enough, crazy as it might be, but to my surprise, the director somehow succeeded in creating something rather boring and uninteresting out of an idea that should ignite on arrival – instead it somewhat ignites in the end though appearing dead on arrival. Campbell's character was either bedridden or trying to get rid of beetles for most of the movie, all the while the other half of the (un)dying on-screen duo was introduced surprisingly late in the movie. The two of them did have some great chemistry but didn’t get to confront their common summoned enemy before the last half hour, where the story finally sort of picks up. Honestly if it wasn't for Campbell, this movie would have been even worse than it already is, but thankfully he has such a great presence around him that he can keep this corpse of a movie alive throughout most of the runtime. But only “just”.
The idea of an evil dead Egyptian mummy acting as a menace for ageing old folks at a retirement home is quite "out there" and you would think the premise alone plays the movie along just fine. But the story would rather use its time on showing us bad b-movie beetles or blabbing about Elvis Presley's limp, lubed up leather-stretcher for a decent length of the runtime. Oh, and when on the topic of stretching and length, I was thinking the whole time how this movie would probably have worked much better as a short film, only to find out in the end that it is indeed based on a short story. So yeah, the short answer is, the runtime contradicts with the “funtime”, because while the premise is fun on paper it comes off as paper-thin when presented in feature length, given the amount of wicked weirdness in this undead pharaoh flick does fare well as a punchline, but can’t keep up the punches for 92 minutes.
I could have done with a successful effort of a more toned-down buddy comedy, which it seemingly tries to be, but can’t help but think about how this would have been if it gave me the whole package of its premise (and not just Presley’s package). Why use so much time on waiting to find out whether Presley can press out a boner than playing with the bone-man meandering around the facility? It’s not that I don’t see what it also wants, but there just isn't enough meat on the bone for this old-guy-vs-ancient-guy concept, and in the end, it stands as a fun time at a retirement home but a pretty boring time at the movies…
1.5+
I’m sorry Miss Vicky! I really wanted to like this; actually, I hoped to love it… It’s not that it downright sucks, though sucking souls out the human anubis kind of does, doesn’t it? Oh well, a zombie pharaoh snorefest to me, unfortunately.
MovieMeditation
02-05-19, 06:50 PM
I might suspect though, that a potential rewatch will make me like it a bit more and forgive it for what it wasn't and also look less deep in the mistakes and enjoy what I did enjoy at first watch.
I also forgot to mention, I did like the score and I did like when the movie gave a tiny bit of depth towards the end and gave us a more beautiful send off to Elvis than the real Elvis gave us. :p
PS: I also rewatched Snow White... review as soon as possible. :)
rauldc14
02-05-19, 07:28 PM
Split (1989)
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I can summarize how I feel about this with a lot of one word sentences. Deplorable. Pathetic. Useless. Awful. I'm trying to think of something good to say but the only thing that comes to mind is it's short runtime of 85 minutes.
The acting is atrocious. The screenplay if there even is one is among the worst that I have seen a film have. Even Red Psalms was better. Speaking of Red Psalm this film brought to mind for me a new concept. Maybe we should have a Hall of Trash, this would be a worthy contender for that. I think I should stop because I've nothing but negative to say.
0.5
After all the reviews of Split this far I'm seriously getting curious. I wonder if I should watch it next.
Citizen Rules
02-05-19, 08:00 PM
After all the reviews of Split this far I'm seriously getting curious. I wonder if I should watch it next. You should someone needs to like it. I suggest trying to find a better copy of it than what's on Youtube, which was horrible video quality. I think better image quality would translate into a more enjoyable watch.
Nathaniel
02-05-19, 08:00 PM
I'm in agreement. The level of negativity is actually making me want to see it more.
I'm in agreement. The level of negativity is actually making me want to see it more.
Did you watch Brimstone couple of days ago (I'm pretty sure I saw you posting it to films you watch tonight thread)? I've been waiting for someone's opinion on my nomination :D
Nathaniel
02-05-19, 08:13 PM
Did you watch Brimstone couple of days ago (I'm pretty sure I saw you posting it to films you watch tonight thread)? I've been waiting for someone's opinion on my nomination :D
Indeed I did...It's such a cheerful light-hearted movie :laugh:
I'll have some thoughts up for it tomorrow.
rauldc14
02-05-19, 08:24 PM
I'm not all that sure that the video quality is much better on another source, starting to think it was just poorly shot.
I own the blu ray. It looks great. It's a very low budget film. 16mm. 4:3 ratio.
MovieMeditation
02-05-19, 08:38 PM
I own the blu ray. It looks great. It's a very low budget film. 16mm. 4:3 ratio.
Can’t you rip it and upload it? Maybe I will love it because of the better quality :laugh:
I’m excited now. I can’t wait to watch Split. I’ll probably regret this statement a few seconds into the movie but hell... let’s see. :D
Can’t you rip it and upload it? Maybe I will love it because of the better quality :laugh:
I’m excited now. I can’t wait to watch Split. I’ll probably regret this statement a few seconds into the movie but hell... let’s see. :D
Ive tried ripping bd's before. Not very good at it. Lots of windows 10 roadblocks or lack of workable software on that platform, sadly. Wish I had a bd player on my win7 machine.
I saw it on vhs in poor quality and liked it a lot so...i doubt quality will make ALL the difference. ;P
Citizen Rules
02-05-19, 08:43 PM
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The Little Stranger (2018)
I'm very pleased with this film, so far this was the most surprising nom that I've watched. I'd never heard of it before and after it was announced I looked it up on IMDB and seen it had a fairly low rating and being a horror I expected not to like it. But I did!
The Little Stranger plays like Pride and Prejudice (2005) meets Winchester (2018)...only it's head and shoulders above Winchester. While Winchester was hyperbolic with demonic ghost and silly fright scenes...The Little Stranger is done up in proper British style which keeps everything reined in which then adds to the tension that grows under the seemingly benign surface.
Dr Faraday (Domhnall Gleeson) was a bit of a creepy ass...but that casting choice worked perfect for the movie as he created a quiet tension. Ruth Wilson who played Caroline Ayres is also odd and once again that helps the narrative as we're never sure what's going on in that creepy old mansion...and in that way the film reminded me of The Innocents.
I for one loved the drama that occurred as the good doctor courts the reclusive heiress...and the resulting human drama is where the themes of class elitism our examined. It's interesting in that the Ayres family who are heavily in debt and live in what once was a stately manor, now decaying old house, still act as blue nosed as ever, and no matter how educated and well mannered Dr Faraday is he can never make the grade, so will never truly belong at Hundreds Hall.
And that's where the story lies and not in the horror. I suspect those who like gore horror were disappointed that there weren't heads rolling and ice picks in the eyes...and so gave it a low IMDB rating. Which goes to show that the only real judge of a film's merit is one's self.
rauldc14
02-05-19, 08:44 PM
I'm in the clear till March 11th, but I'll be going for Perfect Blue fairly soon. Hope I like it.
Miss Vicky
02-06-19, 01:25 AM
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The King Of Comedy (Martin Scorsese, 1982)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085794/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Date Watched: 02/05/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 18th MoFo Hall of Fame, nominated by Yam12
Rewatch: No.
Well that was quite the unsettling commentary on fame and obsession.
Robert DeNiro turned in a phenomenally creepy performance as Rupert Pupkin, an aspiring comedian who will stop at nothing to get what he wants. Sandra Bernhard was impressive as well in her role as his mentally unstable and equally obsessed accomplice. The film was also masterfully directed and is overall a very well crafted piece of art.
The only trouble is that I felt nothing for any of its characters, which makes staying engaged a difficult task for me. I fully acknowledge that this flaw lies with me and not the film, but the end result is that I respected and admired The King of Comedy far more than I actually enjoyed it. Still, I expect it'll rank pretty high when it comes time for me to vote.
4-
Citizen Rules
02-06-19, 11:14 AM
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The Florida Project (2017)
I tried watching this after it came to DVD but shut if off after 15 minutes. In those first few minutes I found the kids and their mom annoying as they hammed it up for the camera.
So, I watched the entire movie last night and found out the first 15 minutes was just like the rest of the entire movie...The Florida Project plays like a 2 hour long selfie or some home video where little kids act way more silly than usual.
You know that photo to me defines the movie: overdone & hammy without any real substances. It's like the director wanted to make a cross between Boyhood (2014) and a reality TV show where people act anything but real. One would have to really like watching shrill small children acting 'cute' to enjoy this movie.
I've seen films centered on small kids that do work, such as the ground breaking Boyhood. But The Florida Project felt fake...not only the kids but the mother too. She so over exaggerated all her actions that she seemed like an actress trying way too hard. She never seemed to be the person she was playing. Even when she was smoking she so over done the smoking movements as if she was trying way to hard to draw attention to herself.
All of that hamming it up took me right out of the story and made me accurately aware that this was a movie. Now I believed Elvis was the real deal in Bubba Ho Tep, as the actor sold me on that fact despite the far fetched nature of the story plot, but here all the colorful buildings couldn't convince me what I was seeing was real.
*Spoiler*
I hated the last few minutes of the ending at DisneyWorld. Just when the film was getting interesting as the child was being removed by child protection services, we get the scene of the two girls at DisneyWorld. I would've went with a long shot of the little girls sad face as she stared out the cars rear window.
Even Red Psalms was better. Speaking of Red Psalm this film brought to mind for me a new concept. Maybe we should have a Hall of Trash, this would be a worthy contender for that. I think I should stop because I've nothing but negative to say.
Red Psalm is atleast well made though.
I think that's the first negative review for The Florida Project I've seen. Still looking forward to watching it though.
MovieMeditation
02-06-19, 12:01 PM
I think that's the first negative review for The Florida Project I've seen. Still looking forward to watching it though.
It's gonna be a rewatch for me. And I wasn't too keen on it either, though I didn't necessarily hate it. I do see and somewhat agree with some of CR's point and do remember thinking something along those lines...
I definitely didn't understand the massive praise for it, though I did like the ending that CR didn't.
I loved Willem Dafoe in it though. Huge plus for the movie. I'm looking forward to a revisit though. I hope to like it more.
rauldc14
02-06-19, 12:03 PM
Ouch.
Citizen Rules
02-06-19, 12:21 PM
It's gonna be a rewatch for me. And I wasn't too keen on it either, though I didn't necessarily hate it. I do see and somewhat agree with some of CR's point and do remember thinking something along those lines...
I definitely didn't understand the massive praise for it, though I did like the ending that CR didn't.
I loved Willem Dafoe in it though. Huge plus for the movie. I'm looking forward to a revisit though. I hope to like it more.I should mention that I didn't hate it, more like I was disappointed. I was interested in it for the first hour or so, but after that I started noticing some of the filler scenes (or call them in-between scenes where not much is happening) those filler scenes got repeated by changing them slightly, which seemed like lazy writing to me. I wanted something deeper and more real from life in this unique place and it was a unique concept.
Boyhood made me feel like I was part of that families life and I believed them as real, but not so with the mom and kids in The Florida Project.
Oh, I did like Willem DeFoe in it and I was impressed with the unique and visually interesting shooting locations (buildings, fields, etc) that the director of photography found.
Miss Vicky
02-06-19, 12:47 PM
I'll probably rewatch Perfect Blue tonight, since it's the shortest of the movies I have left.
I'm only working a half shift tomorrow and then have three days off so it's possible that I'll have all but The Little Stranger finished by Monday.
rauldc14
02-06-19, 12:52 PM
You guys are fast. I can't keep up with you guys anymore.
MovieMeditation
02-06-19, 12:58 PM
18th Hall of Fame
“Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs”
1937
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82 years later and Disney’s first dreamy fairytale still stands as the fairest of all. While my yearning for yodeling hasn’t got any greater over the years, there is one exception to such extensive goofiness… and this is it.
‘Snow White’ might be 82 years old, but there are no wrinkles to spot on this beauty, that’s for sure. The animation is astonishing and awe-inspiring, paving the way for all the animations to come – and just like The Yellow Brick Road, this pathway is a precious one for family films, and stands just as perfect as it once did… no cracks or dirt to spot. Of course, you can tell where and how animation has evolved over time, but I’m still surprised with the level of ambition the animators must have had. Beautiful pans, turns and swirls that must’ve been a real challenge to pull off – and in feature length!
The story is timeless and the execution of it has aged like a fine wine. The way animation is made and presented these days is paced very differently and done with a whole different mindset too. ‘Snow White’ actually takes its time to build up the story and characters and thereby earns every scene and every transition between them throughout its runtime, which is just as short and sweet as the movie itself. The film is filled with innocence and innovative animation and art design, which charms its way into our souls and leaves our hearts completely exposed, expertly carved out by Disney and their unsurpassed spellbinding sorcery, told through canvases of uncompromised art and passion.
I recently re-read my last write-up for this movie, which was positive, but not exactly pouring with love… more like appreciation. The latter is still a matter, but I definitely feel like the appreciation, admiration and affection kind of bleeds together more, this time around, and only for the better. I certainly had a more wholesome experience with this rewatch and there is something about this movie that is simply eternal…
4.5-
MovieMeditation
02-06-19, 12:59 PM
You guys are fast. I can't keep up with you guys anymore.
I'm only on 2 films so don't worry ;)
rauldc14
02-06-19, 01:00 PM
I'm only on 2 films so don't worry ;)
Nice. We can be slowpokes together. I mean I won't be super slow, but probably a one a week pace.
I wonder what I'll think of Snow White since I haven't seen it before.
MovieMeditation
02-06-19, 01:11 PM
Nice. We can be slowpokes together. I mean I won't be super slow, but probably a one a week pace.
Haha, yeah maybe. Though I do expect to pick up my pace... I'm kinda only behind because entered late. :p
Citizen Rules
02-06-19, 01:59 PM
You guys are fast. I can't keep up with you guys anymore. I usually watch one movie every night, followed by an old favorite TV show on DVD. Right now that's Star Trek The Next Generation. I requested all the noms from my library, so I figured what the hell I'll just watch all those in a row, so I can return them...But I'm not rushing for the sake of rushing.
“Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs”
I recently re-read my last write-up for this movie, which was positive, but not exactly pouring with love… more like appreciation. The latter is still a matter, but I definitely feel like the appreciation, admiration and affection kind of bleeds together more, this time around, and only for the better. I certainly had a more wholesome experience with this rewatch and there is something about this movie that is simply eternal…
That's probably because you watched a lot of Disney animation since then and so built up a working knowledge of Disney's animation style...giving you a new appreciation for the skills of those early animators. I always admire it when someone delves into a subject matter or director's work and thus gets a good feel for the flow of time on cinema.
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