Definitive punk album?

[Henry The Kid]

Whether purely for the sound, for the political side, or for just being punks, what album defines punk? Since I created the thread, I get to use the easy one. The Clash-London Calling.


What album just defines punk for you?

[Revenant]

Punk is something I've yet to really get into so my knowledge is limited however one Album that springs to mind which defines the rebellious, political side of Punk is 'The Sex Pistols' 'Never Mind the Bollocks'.


Got into a LOT of trouble with the song 'God Save the Queen' from that album. Heck it was even banned! The album certainly held a lot of power and controvosey. It surpasses more then just their music.

[Steve]

Enter the Wu: 36 Chambers by the Wu-Tang Clan

[linespalsy]

that's interesting, i dont really see where wu tang fits in, h'aint they rappers, after all?

i think it'd be silly not to mention something by mc5 or the stooges [raw power] here. i guess i'll go with the ramones [1976] as it's both canonical and totally rad.
my personal favorite is wire - pink flag [1977.] that's about as far as i'm willing to push the genre boundaries and use the term punk though, otherwise i'd put something really crazy that defies classification, like you've got foetus on your breath - ache, or the modern lovers, or suicide, or captain beefheart or something...

[Henry The Kid]

that's interesting, i dont really see where wu tang fits in, h'aint they rappers, after all?




I left it pretty open in the original post. I think Steve considers most rappers to have the punk attitude down, so that's why he chose them. I think he's said that before, I can't remember if it was a different forum though.

[projectMayhem]

The early Wu-Tang stuff did have that sort of we don't give a flying **** about what anybody cares about us though. So I can see where Steve is coming from.

For me though I would have to say either Fishbone's self-titled first album, or Energy by Operation Ivy.

[linespalsy]

I left it pretty open in the original post. I think Steve considers most rappers to have the punk attitude down, so that's why he chose them. I think he's said that before, I can't remember if it was a different forum though.

alrighty. that's kinda what i figured anyhow.

anyway, i kind of think the question is a little backwards now that i go back and read it closer. seems to me that "punk" would define the albums and not the other way around?

this kind of reminds me of a comic i read called 'bremen.' sort of a guilty pleasure of mine, it's about a group of "wild" teenage punk rockers who have the ultimate goal in mind of becoming "rock gods." what interests me about the comic is the use of the word "rock." rock at times seems to be used in all contexts as a synonym for just about anything desirable. sometimes it can be an action, a descriptor, or even an object [like a character will say "guh yeah hey you bastard eat my rooooock!" all the sudden as an insult or challenge.] most often it's used in the place of sexual potence, freedom, equality, rightiousness, or strength [among many other things]. the weird thing is that it's never really used in the correct place, success in the rock business is always just this vague amourphous thing on the horizon, it's a given that they will be successful because "they are rock", and so they fit in the totally assumed world of "the greatness of rock." more importantly, part of the reason why i suspect that this "rock" stuff is never really used correctly or specifically is because if it was we might find out that the reality of "rock" doesnt have any real intrinsic value. the idea that "rock" might not be such a great thing, or that bremen might actually suck [since they're entirely an imaginary band it's impossible to say, but i'd like to posit it as a strong possibility], and so it would follow that rock would suck too [since bremen is, we are told, rock personified], is never allowed in this world. after all, rock means saving little kids, teaching family values, fighting bullies, aaaand playing music. they're all the same thing apparently.

dont mind my ramblings about stupid comics, dont know what exactly that has to do with this thread anymore, just a tangent.

[Mary Loquacious]

Ack. I saw this thread awhile ago, intended to post, and then clean forgot about it.

This is an interesting question, definitely. My answer is Plastic Surgery Disasters/In God We Trust, Inc. by Dead Kennedys, for so many reasons. First and foremost, this is one of the few albums that is a perfect meld of the musical style, the attitude, the message, and the raw-but-directed (and educated) anger that mean "punk" to me. If I were trying to explain my idea of punk rock to someone, this album would be both my background music and my auditory blackboard.

Plus, it just plain kicks my ass every time I listen to it.

[Monkeypunch]

This is a choice that will no doubt make everyone question my sanity, but for me, it's Big Lizard In My Backyard by the Dead Milkmen. One, its the first punk album I ever heard, two, they are totally everything i thought punk should have been. The DM's were a bunch of untalented kids putting out music for for their own amusement. Their sense of humor was infantile, offensive, and crude. Their musicianship was non-existant, and they clearly had no future in the "industry." Plus, Veterans of a F*cked up World (VFW) was the best punk anti-anthem ever.

My second choice is Young Loud and Snotty by the Dead Boys, for Sonic Reducer alone. Best Punk Song Ever.

[Aladinsane]

'Bedtime For Democracy' - Dead Kennedy's

It has everything, tight playing and a heap of politics. I don't consider The Clash Punk other than their first album or so.

[Hondo333]

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