1930s Hall of Fame

[edarsenal]

List is SENT!!

[pahaK]

Eh, hate to be cocky, but I might very well have the most well-developed, eclectic, all-embracing taste here.

To me well-developed and all-embracing don't mix. All-embracing is more synonymous with no taste, brainless consuming of everything like being a cinephile version of a black hole that swallows everything without emotion, without hate or love.

[Mr Minio]

pahaK

All-embracing is more synonymous with no taste There is no such thing as no taste. You can have a bad taste, but you've still got one. That's one.

All-embracing does not mean loving everything, but loving something in everything. That is, finding a movie you love in every genre, movement, niche... And experiencing all those vastly different ways of filmmaking. Open-mindness and eagerness to discover new things, new perspectives. That's two.

brainless consuming of everything like being a cinephile version of a black hole that swallows everything without emotion, without hate or love. Oh, I believe that everbody (even Marvel fans) do show emotions, hate, or love when watching movies. That's three.

[pahaK]

All-embracing does not mean loving everything, but loving something in everything. That is, finding a movie you love in every genre, movement, niche... And experiencing all those vastly different ways of filmmaking. Open-mindness and eagerness to discover new things, new perspectives. That's two.

This was the everything I was referring to. I find it hard to believe that anyone will honestly love something in everything. I don't find such taste (or lack of it, a matter of taste in itself) either achievable or pursuable.

Also it's definitely different from open-mindedness and eagerness to discover new things you mention. That is a goal I too consider worthy of chasing and for me it is the main reason I'm attending HoF's even though it often means watching films I don't like.

I'll leave you now to your ivory tower and return to my beloved mediocrity.

[Mr Minio]

This was the everything I was referring to. I find it hard to believe that anyone will honestly love something in everything. Your lack of faith astounds me. Surely, compared to a dauntless traveller who's penetrated all corners of Earth, a countryman who never left his village is a guy who thinks it's simply impossible to find the women of Amazonia pretty, the cousine of China tasty, and the tribal dances of Papuan tribes poetic.
Also it's definitely different from open-mindedness and eagerness to discover new things you mention. That is a goal I too consider worthy of chasing and for me it is the main reason I'm attending HoF's even though it often means watching films I don't like. Fair enough, but if you watch enough new films, you will discover ones you love. It's just an inevitable consequence. And by discovering other films made the same year, getting to know how they were made back then, and getting a grasp, expanding your sensibilities, you become more sensitive to cinema in general, and every kind of film in particular. Naturally, there are films you will get immediately, but then you've got plenty of cinema that needs you digging deeper to fully understand it (on emotional level).
I'll leave you now to your ivory tower and return to my beloved mediocrity. Academic approach to film kills it. Watch movies with your heart, not your mind. I believe that since films speak directly to the heart, it's only natural for a heart to speak directly about films.

[Siddon]

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Scarlet Empress seems like it was made to be a silent film and that was retrofitted for sound. Marlene Dietrich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlene_Dietrich) goes from I assume 12 to 30 in the story as rather than try and pinpoint a period of time the director chooses to cover Catharine the Great for a generation. Having an actress in her 30's playing an ingenue is unfortunate and doesn't really work with modern sensibilities.

Dietrich carries the film though because every other character in the film is grossly over the top with a style of acting that would have worked with a silent film but falls apart with sound. Visually the film is a delight though, the crazy set pieces, long tracking shots even breaks for humor and montages work really well for the story.

[Citizen Rules]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46366
The Scarlet Empress (1934)

I really liked this and for one reason, the sets are amazing! Those sculptures, wow! If I could give an Academy Award to the designer of those statues...I would. That was one of the coolest looking sets I've seen. It's so amazing how the sculptures impact an emotional statement about Russia and gives the film this heavy dark feeling. I mean look at the emotions that pour out of them! They're contorted, they're forlorn and forsaken, their in misery...as is the Russian peasant in this movie. And if that wasn't enough darkness there's a torture montage at the beginning of the film....that let's us know we're not in Kansas anymore.

Kudos to the director for world building which makes the film. I felt like the Tsars castle was this dark, heavy, dreadful place with huge rooms and heavy wooden beam construction. I loved the use of staircases, which made the film three dimensional, in a two dimensional medium. This is world building! I'm glad that most of the scenes took place in the castle, as it felt like a real place that could be explored (at one's own peril:eek:) vs a Hollywood set. So impressive.

I said at the start of this HoF that I had never seen The Scarlet Empress, but I realized when watching it that I had seen it. I remember the way the Russian castle felt, like I had been there in a dream. I didn't remember any details at all. But my wife remembered the horses charging up the staircase. A very cool scene if I say so.

Glad to have watched it again.

[Citizen Rules]

@CosmicRunaway (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=90868) @cricket (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=68505) @edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536) @pahaK (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100614) @Nathaniel (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100931) @Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448)

We're done! and I was the last one to finish, ha:p But we did all finish and ahead of schedule too, very cool guys!

I'm going to do the results tomorrow. What time are you guys going to be online? Let me know AND let me know what time zone your in. OR if you want to be helpful, convert your time to PST, that's the time zone I'm in. I'll try to do the results when the most HoF members are online.

[edarsenal]

I'm usually around from 5pm til 9 pm pacific time

[CosmicRunaway]

If this time zone converter I'm using is right, I'll be home from work a little after 5:30am Pacific, and will gone to bed by 2:30pm. I always convert to and front Eastern (since that's easier and I actually remember that one) so in case the converter is wrong, that's between 8:30am and 5:30pm Eastern.

But as always, I can just catch up on the reveal the next day since I know my schedule is vastly different than most people's, and it's best to cater to the majority. I'll be up for work again by 10:30pm? Pacific/1:30am Eastern, so if you do the reveal in the evening, I won't actually be too late checking out the results haha.

[Nathaniel]

9am to 4pm Pacific.

I also don't mind catching the results the next morning (I get up around 10pm Pacific).

[pahaK]

I don't know when I'll be around (depends when I manage to get sleep in this weather). Don't worry about me when choosing time.

[Citizen Rules]

Wow, you guys all have different schedules. I don't think more than one of you is online at the same time, well then I will look at the Who's Online to see if anyone is around when I do the reveal. It will be later today.

Any guess on the final results for the 7 noms? or can you guess what is going to win? Post your guesses:cool:

[pahaK]

Any guess on the final results for the 7 noms? or can you guess what is going to win? Post your guesses:cool:

I'll make a wild guess that my nomination will not win :D

[Citizen Rules]

I'll make a wild guess that my nomination will not win :D You're probably right about that:)

[cricket]

I'm driving so I'm on voice text. I think Pepe le Mocho has a chance, and also the scarlet empress has a chance. I would favor make way for tomorrow but a last place vote hurts it's chances a little bit.

[Chypmunk]

The Scarlet Empress wins.

(This comment has absolutely no foundation and is pure speculation).

[edarsenal]

I'm thinking Scarlet Empress as well.
Pepe will be close, and I'd be happy with a top 3.

[rauldc14]

I'm predicting a win for The Bride of Frankenstein for the win!

Of course I have seen 0 of these lol.

[Citizen Rules]

@CosmicRunaway (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=90868) @cricket (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=68505) @edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536) @pahaK (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100614) @Nathaniel (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=100931) @Siddon (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448)

The results are in! So grab a seat and something cool to drink...and I'll get this show on the road:)

[Siddon]

Well it's getting late..so what do we think the over under on Child Bride is 16pts?

[Citizen Rules]

1930s Hall of Fame Results


We started on 6-20-18 with 7 members. I'm pleased to say everyone finished! A BIG Thanks to the regulars who join these HoFs and a Special Thanks to the newest members for giving the Hall of Fame a try!


7th Place

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46404
Child Bride (1938)


Nominated by pahaK
12 Points

[Citizen Rules]

Well it's getting late..so what do we think the over under on Child Bride is 16pts?Good guess! It got 12 points

[Citizen Rules]

6th Place

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46405&stc=1&d=1532567313
Gunga Din (1939)

Nominated by CosmicRunaway
22 Points

[Citizen Rules]

Ed I seen you on line, where you at?

[Citizen Rules]

5th Place

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46406&stc=1&d=1532567552
The Bride of Frankenstein (1935)

Nominated by Siddon
25 Points

[cricket]

12 points? That a record?

[Citizen Rules]

12 points? That a record? Yeah, but I suppose it is a small HoF. I have a little surprise after the countdown you guys might like to see.

[Citizen Rules]

4th Place

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46407&stc=1&d=1532567699
Bachelor Mother (1939)

Nominated by Citizen Rules
31 Points

[Citizen Rules]

I almost always seem to end up in the middle of the pack, oh well:p

[Citizen Rules]

We're down to the top three.

[cricket]

I almost always seem to end up in the middle of the pack, oh well:p

Not a couple nights ago!

[Citizen Rules]

3rd Place

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46408&stc=1&d=1532567901
Pepe Le Moko (1937)

Nominated by edarsenal
32 Points

[Citizen Rules]

Not a couple nights ago! I should listen to my wife more often, ha.

[Citizen Rules]

I thought Pepe Le Moko would finish high when I watched it.

[Citizen Rules]

2nd Place

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46409&stc=1&d=1532568148
Make Way for Tomorrow (1937)

Nominated by Nathaniel
33 Points


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[Citizen Rules]

1st Place

The film that will be inducted into the Specialty Hall of Fame

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=46410&stc=1&d=1532568191

The Scarlet Empress (1934)

Nominated by cricket
41 Points

[cricket]

Woo Hoo that's my first HoF win

[Citizen Rules]

Congratulations Cricket!

and Congratulation Nathaniel!

and thanks to everyone for letting me play host for this Hof! I thought all the noms were interesting!

[rauldc14]

When is part 2?

[Citizen Rules]

Woo Hoo that's my first HoF winRight on:up: it's about time:p The Scarlet Empress got a lot of 1st place votes. Just about everybody liked it.

[edarsenal]

was TRYING to be around and missed it!!

Still, 3rd place, that's a high honor for me recently, I WILL HAPPILY take it!!

CONGRATS cricket for hitting the #1 mark, BRAVO!!

and THANK YOU Citizen Rules for, as always, a SUPERB JOB!!

[edarsenal]

When is part 2?

I can put up a notice tonight or tomorrow evening if that sounds good?

[Siddon]

I can put up a notice tonight or tomorrow evening if that sounds good?


Yeah sure

[Citizen Rules]

I can put up a notice tonight or tomorrow evening if that sounds good?Sounds good to me:up: hell I'm going to PM my nom right now, before I give my self a headache pondering all the possibilities...I do that alot.

[edarsenal]

Here's my list:

1) Pepe Le Moko
2) The Scarlett Empress
3) Bachelor Mother
4) Gunga Din
5) The Bride of Frankenstein
6) Make Way For Tomorrow
7) Child Bride

VERY COOL to see Make Way For Tomorrow score second place!!
Sorry I wasn't much help for that

[Citizen Rules]

Did you guys notice what I did with the photos? It's not a big deal or anything amazing, I was just trying to be creative. But that's not the surprise. I'll post that in a minute or two.

[edarsenal]

Sounds good to me:up: hell I'm going to PM my nom right now, before I give my self a headache pondering all the possibilities...I do that alot.


I feel your pain!! lol

[cricket]

1. The Scarlet Empress
2. Make Way for Tomorrow
3. Pepe Le Moko
4. Bride of Frankenstein
5. Bachelor Mother
6. Gunga Din
7. Child Bride

Congrats Nathaniel for runner up and to everyone for finishing!

Thank you CR for hosting!

[cricket]

Are the photos the same we used in reviews?

[Citizen Rules]

Taking a cue from Cosmic, I made a graph. It gives a visual to how the noms stacked up against each other. I thought it turned out good.

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[edarsenal]

Taking a cue from Cosmic, I made a graph. It gives a visual to how the noms stacked up against each other. I thought it turned out good.

46411

Great lil graph, CR!!
Wow! Empress was the definitive champ in this one!

[Citizen Rules]

Are the photos the same we used in reviews?Yes! except you:skeptical: you didn't do a write up on your nom:)...so I guessed at what photo you might have used. How did I do?

[cricket]

Yes! except you:skeptical: you didn't do a write up on your nom:)...so I guessed at what photo you might have used. How did I do?

I would go with something like this-

https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcvhf3J4OZ1qzr8nao1_500.gif

But you did great!

[Citizen Rules]

I would go with something like this-

https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcvhf3J4OZ1qzr8nao1_500.gif

But you did great!Ha...good one. I was actually going to use the topless torture scene, but it was all dark and blurry.

[edarsenal]

I think I used the same one for Empress as well. Amazing image

[Chypmunk]

Well done everyone :)

[CosmicRunaway]

Congrats to Cricket for the win! And thanks for hosting CR, you did a great job as always! :up:

I had a hard time ranking #3-6, and originally my bottom 3 were Bride of Frankenstein, Gunga Din, and Child Bride, in the same order they ended up placing here haha. I did have Pépé at #3 at one point as well.

Basically the only thing that stayed the same were my two favourites, and the one I knew I would be ranking last. After much internal debate, here was the list I actually settled on:

01. The Scarlet Empress
02. Bachelor Mother
03. Make Way for Tomorrow
04. Gunga Din
05. Pépé Le Moko
06. Bride of Frankenstein
07. Child Bride

I might've switched Gunga Din and Pépé around again if I had my time back, but I had already changed my list too many times and decided to just send it, otherwise I might have never settled on an order haha.

[CosmicRunaway]

Did you guys notice what I did with the photos? It's not a big deal or anything amazing, I was just trying to be creative.
When I saw the pictures used in the reveal, I did notice that they were the ones we each selected in our reviews. But when I saw this, I thought you meant something like that grey border you added, so I started looking for other changes as well, like a hidden number showing its ranking or something haha.

[pahaK]

I slept a bit longer than I expected so missed all the results fuzz. I'm happy that The Scarlet Empress won as it was also my favorite. My ranking was:

1. The Scarlett Empress
2. Child Bride
3. Pepe Le Moko
4. Bride of Frankenstein
5. Gunga Din
6. Bachelor Mother
7. Make Way for Tomorrow

Ended up putting Pepe above Frankenstein despite of the ratings I gave. Pepe was one of those movies that started to feel better after the actual viewing was over :D

BTW, did I make a new record with my nom as it seems that everyone else ranked it last?

Also I'm not yet sure if I participate in part 2. Nothing to do with my success here, of course. We've had a heatwave in Finland (most of the Europe, I think) for almost a month now and it's threatened to continue for about another month. I hate heat and I'm not sure if I'm up to going through another patch of 1930s films in this weather when watching good films is difficult at times. Also I've come to notice that my planned nom is probably seen by quite a few already. Need to think this through.

[Nathaniel]

1. Make Way For Tomorrow
2. The Scarlet Empress
3. Pépé le Moko
4. The Bride of Frankenstein
5. Bachelor Mother
6. Gunga Din
7. Child Bride

Cheers all and thanks to Citizen :)

Extremely tight race for second from the looks of things.

[Nathaniel]

Also I'm not yet sure if I participate in part 2. Nothing to do with my success here, of course. We've had a heatwave in Finland (most of the Europe, I think) for almost a month now and it's threatened to continue for about another month.

We've (Northern Ireland) had it too. Roasting today as well

It would be good to see you sign up for Part 2, even if you hate my nom again :p

[Citizen Rules]

...BTW, did I make a new record with my nom as it seems that everyone else ranked it last?I'll have to check, you might have a record for Most Last Place Votes, but that honor might go to Red Psalm in the 70s HoF. I voted your nom last, BUT if I was to pick a nom that was the most interesting-topical it would be yours. I'm glad I watched it.

Also I'm not yet sure if I participate in part 2. Nothing to do with my success here, of course. We've had a heatwave in Finland (most of the Europe, I think) for almost a month now and it's threatened to continue for about another month. I hate heat and I'm not sure if I'm up to going through another patch of 1930s films in this weather when watching good films is difficult at times. Also I've come to notice that my planned nom is probably seen by quite a few already. Need to think this through.[/quote]It's hot here too! I hate it hot as it's also very humid, and we don't have Air Conditioning. That's why I love spring and fall:p Great if you can join the 30s Part 2, but if not I do really hope you'll join the next main HoF the 17th Hof or something else. I personally don't mind seeing movies over, in most case's it's been years since I seen them.

[pahaK]

It's hot here too! I hate it hot as it's also very humid, and we don't have Air Conditioning. That's why I love spring and fall:p

Same here, humid and no air conditioning. In Finland most apartment buildings don't have a proper air conditioning and they're built to be quite energy efficient because we have pretty cold winters. So now that we've already had about a month of 80+ F (highest have been like 92 F) days thick walls have pretty thoroughly heated and I have like 86 F or so inside and terribly humid :mad:

Great if you can join the 30s Part 2, but if not I do really hope you'll join the next main HoF the 17th Hof or something else. I personally don't mind seeing movies over, in most case's it's been years since I seen them.

I'll definitely join 17 or almost any special one. I may still join 1930s pt. 2 as well. It's so few films any way and maybe, just maybe, one or two might even be good :D

[Citizen Rules]

Same here, humid and no air conditioning. In Finland most apartment buildings don't have a proper air conditioning and they're built to be quite energy efficient because we have pretty cold winters. So now that we've already had about a month of 80+ F (highest have been like 92 F) days thick walls have pretty thoroughly heated and I have like 86 F or so inside and terribly humid :mad:Can you leave windows open at night with a fan to cool it down some? That's what I do. Wish I had air conditioning.

[pahaK]

Can you leave windows open at night with a fan to cool it down some? That's what I do. Wish I had air conditioning.

I have windows open and a fan but it does very little because the walls of the house itself don't have time to cool (note that even in southern Finland there's like 6 h 30 min from sunset to sunrise now).

[Citizen Rules]

I have windows open and a fan but it does very little because the walls of the house itself don't have time to cool (note that even in southern Finland there's like 6 h 30 min from sunset to sunrise now). That's a bummer, I hope it gets cooler for you soon.

[edarsenal]

Can you leave windows open at night with a fan to cool it down some? That's what I do. Wish I had air conditioning.

I have windows open and a fan but it does very little because the walls of the house itself don't have time to cool (note that even in southern Finland there's like 6 h 30 min from sunset to sunrise now).

We do the fans and open up the doors and windows at night as well.
I SO do miss the old style of houses that had an actual air flow to them. It seems the more modern ones have no circulation whatsoever to them.