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There has been an overwhelming demand for equality in the workforce between men and women, in the theater, films, music, parent role, etc.
When I hear the word equality I think of something very simple: respect. I believe, unless otherwise impossible, people should be treated with respect equally. But I think this has to stretch beyond mere tolerance. Tolerance seems to be a condescending word. I'm tolerating him, but I really want to smash him dead.
I think it has to extend to understanding.
I want to smash him dead but I understand he's got problems like everyone and I would like to believe that there is redemption for him. It is not my business but I do hope he sorts it out because we are equals and should be treated as such.
So here we are, back to the drawing board. Expectations.
I expect us to be treated as equals.
That's not gonna happen.
But respect, and an effort to understand may clear up the passive aggressive funk that seeps out of people who smile to your face but really don;t like you. Like a silent-but-deadly fart..they always keep their cool, but you can smell them. Nasty business.
Equality between men and women. Pay rates. Absolutely. Would I want to see a 105lb woman be drafted for WWIII? Not really. That's not realistic. Not frontline stuff. No platoon can count on someone that lightweight carrying cargo or having enough testosterone to blow the shlt out of charlie, or whoever the next enemy is.
I rage out, too. But I'm 180 lbs of man puss. I could never kill another man or woman, equally.
Things are getting out of hand. Too many people are sleeping at the wheel. Thinking up these scenarios to "enrich" our societies with "equality". But within reason is the thing, is the key.
The Scouts. What, now we cannot specify boy or girl scouts?
Some people really need to get lost more than they already are.
I love you Young Joel. That post is beauty to my eyes. Every single word of it. As I said, I really love you, from my soul. May you rule the planet!!!
I rep you (that sounds a bit horny and I know you know I dont mean it that way. If I'm incorrect, talk to the hand)
Stirchley
05-04-18, 07:17 PM
Would I want to see a 105lb woman be drafted for WWIII? Not really. That's not realistic. Not frontline stuff. No platoon can count on someone that lightweight carrying cargo or having enough testosterone to blow the shlt out of charlie, or whoever the next enemy is.
Who is this 105 lb woman? You do know women come in different sizes?
You seem unaware that American women are in the Marines & also in infantry divisions.
You can’t imagine your hypothetical woman carrying cargo? You do know that women are firefighters?
And, lastly, ask any woman who has given birth whether or not she’s strong.
Mr Minio
05-04-18, 07:28 PM
I rep you (that sounds a bit horny You naughty auntie, you! :eek:
Who is this 105 lb woman? You do know women come in different sizes?
You seem unaware that American women are in the Marines & also in infantry divisions.
You can’t imagine your hypothetical woman carrying cargo? You do know that women are firefighters?
And, lastly, ask any woman who has given birth whether or not she’s strong.
Stirchely, maybe I misspoke on that. I'm not talking about a brutish woman that can carry heavy cargo, I am talking about specifically a 105 pound woman that wants to be given the opportunity to do something she cannot. Just like if a man wants to be eligible to play basketball in the NBA when he's 4 ft tall. Same thing.
Nothing to do with strength of women re: childbirth or any other avenue, just specific things.
I love you Young Joel. That post is beauty to my eyes. Every single word of it. As I said, I really love you, from my soul. May you rule the planet!!!
I rep you (that sounds a bit horny and I know you know I dont mean it that way. If I'm incorrect, talk to the hand)
I appreciate you picking up on the points, Dani, thanks!
Also, what's up with people losing gender identity all of a sudden. The whole boy/girl scouts thing. Please tell me this is an internet hoax or media yarn.
Some things are inherent in men and women.
So, what..the next time I foolishly decide to go looking for a mate, I'm going to have to settle for a girl that speaks like she's reading a kevin Smith or Woody Allen script?
The trend of women telling guys to "suck my d#ck". OK, haha, funny...but it's kind of a thing now, isn't it?
Penis envy times in a big way, honey!
I am just saying...talking like a sailor isn't exclusive to men, but now that feature films and media in general has adopted this trend,..that whole DELUSION of femininity is eroding..and, well shucks! I guess I don't want to bang Kevin Smith, sorry!
Kamal Khan
05-04-18, 07:38 PM
There seems to be a growing trend where making distinctions is somehow unacceptable. Are you suggesting Group A and Group B aren't exactly the same in every way? Gorram bigot, go die in a fire.
I appreciate you picking up on the points, Dani, thanks!
I'm still in silly am mood, Joel. You will have to wait for my caffeine to rouse my adrenals for anything further just yet. Please be patient, and do away with thine condescension for the time being, like cup of tea o'clock in your part of the world. Merci. We donnt need anymore fart in her face comments like last time.;)
Stirchely, maybe I misspoke on that. I'm not talking about a brutish woman that can carry heavy cargo, I am talking about specifically a 105 pound woman that wants to be given the opportunity to do something she cannot. Just like if a man wants to be eligible to play basketball in the NBA when he's 4 ft tall. Same thing.
Nothing to do with strength of women re: childbirth or any other avenue, just specific things.
Speaking of childbirth..let's say women are drafted in their late teens to whatever..early 30's....they have one in the oven....think the laws getting ushered in by extremist idiots will be pared down enough to allow a mother to be a mom instead of a soldier who kills for college money?
GO USA!
Stirchely, maybe I misspoke on that. I'm not talking about a brutish woman that can carry heavy cargo, I am talking about specifically a 105 pound woman that wants to be given the opportunity to do something she cannot. Just like if a man wants to be eligible to play basketball in the NBA when he's 4 ft tall. Same thing.
Nothing to do with strength of women re: childbirth or any other avenue, just specific things.
My niece is an officer in the navy. She agrees with the weight restrictions. When I asked why she saud
Auntie, I have just spent a year in a sub in the gulf. I dont wish to be stuck behind some lard arse lazy bitch or bastard in times of red flashy light thingies. i said
good oh, darling.
eta for clarity:I completely and utterly agree with her. I wouldnt want to carry some obese person through a tiny hole either. That's for fiction novel owned by SJWs.
There seems to be a growing trend where making distinctions is somehow unacceptable. Are you suggesting Group A and Group B aren't exactly the same in every way? Gorram bigot, go die in a fire.
We are NOT born equal. Maybe in the eyes of God, whoever you decide that is, but in this clearly spiritually bankrupt era being profited on by media and other assorted sataists, no..we are not equal.
Respect, though. And that's why I can dig some of those 10 Commandments. Do onto others and the like. They are all pretty tight if you ask me, though I do not attend church for my own reasons.
But equality has it's place within parameters. I just heavily dislike seeing mutant thinkers ripping off natural tendencies and labeling them as blank. Hey, you wanna act like a dude..do it! Have fun. You wanna shave your chest and grow a set of boobs, do it, have fun!
But let's not get stupid about it.
Like these d bag parent who are making a media stir by refusing to id their child. That poor kid is unwittingly a pawn in their own ego driven pursuit for social brownie points. I hate people sometimes, I really do, haha.
But, I must understand them. Actually, I do. Still hate em. Even more now that I understand em.
Dont even get me started on parenting of little children today. Young Joel,first you gsave me morning happiness, then with that parenting post you took that happiness right away.
*goes off to bumb a morning gathering of soccer mums.
I am saying that with everything connected by the world wide web and news/media/films/tv...all of these agendas are becoming increasingly mind numbing.
Equal rights for people isn't anything new. It's been grinding its gears for many, many, many years now. But at this rate, sooner or later, everyone is just going to be this potpourri of identity crisis or a completely flat lined individual due to overload.
And people who used to look to the sun and moon for guidance will be sitting in the corner, sucking their thumbs, whispering to themselves "what happened?"
Stirchley
05-04-18, 08:05 PM
I'm not talking about a brutish woman that can carry heavy cargo, I am talking about specifically a 105 pound woman that wants to be given the opportunity to do something she cannot.
So if a woman can carry cargo, she’s a brute?
If a woman wants to join the infantry or whatever, let her decide for herself. It’s not up to you.
Penis envy times in a big way, honey!
No woman wants a penis, I can assure you.
Joel, you sound so much older than you are. IIRC, you’re 30, 31? I hear baby boomers & their fathers talking like this. Come into the 21st century where men can do anything a woman can do. Except bear the pain of childbirth.
Dont even get me started on parenting of little children today. Young Joel,first you gsave me morning happiness, then with that parenting post you took that happiness right away.
*goes off to bumb a morning gathering of soccer mums.
Sorry to bum you out. It bums me out, too. I mean, it's a silly news story, and most logical people will see it for what it is :dumb. But the problem I see is that, unfortunately, dumb people are seemingly, I say seemingly, starting to outnumber, dare I say, "regular people"
Idiocracy. Don't watch that movie unless you want to realize that it's not that far fetched. Replace the illiteracy with a rapists wit and there you have it...the new sherriffs...of dumbass university county.
So if a woman can carry cargo, she’s a brute?
If a woman wants to join the infantry or whatever, let her decide for herself. It’s not up to you.
No woman wants a penis, I can assure you.
Joel, you sound so much older than you are. IIRC, you’re 30, 31? I hear baby boomers & their fathers talking like this. Come into the 21st century where men can do anything a woman can do. Except bear the pain of childbirth.
Brutish, as in brutish strength. Not every woman I meet has a pair of guns for arms. Stirchley, please...give me a break. Are you in the marines? How old are your kids? Would you like to get drafted? You won;t be able to decide, I assure you.
Of course it's not up to me. Not just me, anyway. I consider a lot of this stupidity that spits venom in the face of reason to distract from pinpoints instead of generalizations snake charmer music that has me rising out of my basket.
And no woman wants a penis? Might wanna sk around on that ione, lol.
I am 42, and fine with it. And I adore the 21st century. I just don't suffer fools. Although, I feel I am suffering right now.:D
Well, I'm all finished here. Hope this gets all flamed and heated, haha. Maybe even fake snake plissken will show up and take me to school again. Someone take notes for me, I'll be out sick.
Sorry to bum you out. It bums me out, too. I mean, it's a silly news story, and most logical people will see it for what it is :dumb. But the problem I see is that, unfortunately, dumb people are seemingly, I say seemingly, starting to outnumber, dare I say, "regular people"
Idiocracy. Don't watch that movie unless you want to realize that it's not that far fetched. Replace the illiteracy with a rapists wit and there you have it...the new sherriffs...of dumbass university county.
You took the word right out of my mouth, Joel (all business here now.Thsi is a serious topic and doesnt deserve me mucking around like baby goat any longer).
I am fully with you on this,Joel.I'm sure every generation has said it, infact I will play sheep stations on it! I am really bloody tired of the wont you think of the children brigade.Sometimes they are worse than religious idiots(disclaimer, no offence to any idiots on here who may be religious:)). Idiocracy ndeed, and yes I have seen the movie. The scourge of humanity - blind stupidity! I've been blind and stupid. Sometimes at the same time. Fancy that. But my continued education and awakening couch keeps picking little tiny moats from my eyes. Its a damn shame I had to get a chronic incurable illness to finally open my eyes, hey.
I am, however, still interested in becoming a vegan for good and not just for one day or one month or one years. Forever.
No woman wants a penis, I can assure you.
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I'd be able to finally take you seriously if you pull out your phone and take a photo of that amazing crystal ball you own. Which walmart did you buy that from? TIA.
You took the word right out of my mouth, Joel (all business here now.Thsi is a serious topic and doesnt deserve me mucking around like baby goat any longer).
I am fully with you on this,Joel.I'm sure every generation has said it, infact I will play sheep stations on it! I am really bloody tired of the wont you think of the children brigade.Sometimes they are worse than religious idiots(disclaimer, no offence to any idiots on here who may be religious:)). Idiocracy ndeed, and yes I have seen the movie. The scourge of humanity - blind stupidity! I've been blind and stupid. Sometimes at the same time. Fancy that. But my continued education and awakening couch keeps picking little tiny moats from my eyes. Its a damn shame I had to get a chronic incurable illness to finally open my eyes, hey.
I am, however, still interested in becoming a vegan for good and not just for one day or one month or one years. Forever.
Well, I hope you can sustain a good feeling at least 75% of the time, realistically wishing you. Obviously 100% would be ideal.
And thank you for being decent, even though you agree with me, anyway.
All of this agenda floating around like swamp gas. It's just thinly disguised hate. I lied. I'm not finished, not until the ultimate typer shows up. For now, I just want to say that the left, and the right..are all just groveling pigs who are killing each other with words.
It's like sports. Your team sucks! No, YOUR team sucks!
The thing that gets me is that I know we are better than this. We. Not you, not me, not him, not her.
This boat is sinking, and since it's an ark and no one person can paddle ass enough to keep it afloat, one can only hope that intention by way of thinking hard into the air will somehow change the tide.
Hell, I was just about to publicly shame dunkin donuts for their eggs and hash browns before I took one more chance out of lunch time desperation and it tasted decent for once.
It must've worked!!
One step at a time.
BTW, how do you f#ck up a hash brown?!
Tasted like dirty dishwater smells.
All values of western civilisation--liberty equality fraternity---are going to die out if western civilisation is not perpetuated by producing children. Please perpetuate your civilisation by producing some children. Right now towns villages school colleges are emptying out due to lack of young people. You got to have your own progeny to take care of you in your old age .
donniedarko
05-04-18, 10:42 PM
So if a woman can carry cargo, she’s a brute?
If a woman wants to join the infantry or whatever, let her decide for herself. It’s not up to you.
I think Joel was talking more about drafting women
No woman wants a penis, I can assure you.
Joel, you sound so much older than you are. IIRC, you’re 30, 31? I hear baby boomers & their fathers talking like this. Come into the 21st century where men can do anything a woman can do. Except bear the pain of childbirth.
They Can- but the averages aren't equal for skill. Men can lift more weight- there'll never be a woman who breaks the male world records for power lifting. I'll give you 10,000:1 if you want to put money on it
donniedarko
05-04-18, 10:43 PM
No woman wants a penis, I can assure you.
https://wwwtrulygeekycom-eetynotbbaesecj.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/transgender-woman-to-man-10.jpg
Everyone has their own goals in life. Men/women,hermaphrodites, what have you.
Genrally speaking, women are softer and more delicate - generally speaking. Generally, not specifically.
Lets go into those god-awful stereotypes for a moment and remember that women have long served as nuturers for children and have been great artists with music, paint, filmmaking, writing, etc.
I've heard such beautiful music from women. Angelic, breathtaking. I'd go so far as to say that sometimes I feel like women have an adge, musically in some instances. But that's subjective.
Men, utilitarian as they tend to be, generally speaking, Generally speaking, can withstand rigorous training and physical work, torture, all the while compartmentalizing certain things to serve the agenda of a greedy government for war and fighting. It's just how it is. A lot of women count on this. While they take care of the life they've set up for themselves and their loved ones.
Now I understand this has changed, and has been changing drastically for years. Mr. Moms, role reversal..and that's what it is. Sometimes it works, other times it probably doesn;t, just like anything in life.
But if the message now is to drill into people that men must embrace themselves as women, and vice versa, and this message keeps getting drilled, it can have a peripheral effect by way of exhaustion=brainwashing. An eventual "wearing down" effect on people's minds. It becomes the norm, and people who speak out about it will be endlessly shamed or tried to be made to feel inadequate, misinformed, acting like a dinosaur, non progressive thinker, and so on and so forth.
But, this is just a tactic, after all.
Maybe one day nature will reclaim its course and people will be relaxed and happy enough to not try and re-code things out of boredom and frustration with their own lack of contributions in a realm outside of silly social politics.
To put it more directly...no one should be feeding the war machine, neither men nor women. That's my belief. But if one side of the coin has to protect, let it be the guys. If we all perish, at least the women will hold down the fort of arts...the arts being the single most important thing in life. A means of creation.
Creation - children. Forward into the world with future generations. Wisdom passed down,. Real wisdom. Not gossip, not sports fanatics, not hateful passive aggressive shaming.
Creation, the arts, music, painting, building. The art of love, the art of life, the art of living. Happiness by way of subtracting the acids like hate and fighting.
Equality?
Better think twice, because if everyone is going to be accountable for future death squads, you'd better start practicing your ninja moves to Hollywood action flicks now because when it gets real and you have NO OASIS or fancy flights of non reality...no one is going to be back at the studio or the garden or at the easel. No one.
Citizen Rules
05-05-18, 02:50 PM
Maybe even fake snake plissken will show up and take me to school again...LMAO:lol:
All values of western civilisation--liberty equality fraternity---are going to die out if western civilisation is not perpetuated by producing children. Please perpetuate your civilisation by producing some children...LMAO:lol:
And when I say re-code, I not talking about being enlightened, at least enough to feel differently in a new age, or wake up.
I understand we evolve in our thinking and realize past mistakes (sadly not always enough).
By re-code I mean to try and meddle with nature just like a mutant scientist making mutated notions and spreading it around like cheap pate on an Imperial cracker.
LMAO:lol:
LMAO:lol:
I know, right? LOL.
As I soap box with an ever Faker rendition as an avatar...hey man, TRUTH IS SPHERICAL!
Citizen Rules
05-05-18, 02:53 PM
I diggin your free flow stream of consciousnesses. Bongos and coffee:)
I should also clarify that I am not trying to shame those who decide to identify as another gender. That would be childish. If you were born a man but feel you are really a woman, by all means, sort it out and enjoy your life as you deem it's meant to be. But at the same time, let's not dip those same hands in the tax cookie jar, ya know?
Boundaries are important, and I'm not referring to a great big wall like Cheetos talks about. I just mean boundaries. Staying within parameters and not trying to acrylic spill a bunch of dull paint into the cracks of a society that has functioned well enough with certain rules in play. It's still very possible to be forward thinking and open minded without completly facelifiting planet earth with bully tactics disguised as "important protests for equality."
But equality.
There is no such thing. Men and women are NOT EQUAL. NO.
NO one is equal. If everyone was equal, we'd all be able to play Beethoven with our eyes closed on paino or harp, or classical guitar.
If everyone was equal, we'd all be able to massage the clitoris before a big test to relax.
Comments like "welcome to the 21st century, where men can do everything women can, except bear the pain of childbirth". That is a gigantic sexist comment.
That's sexism, folks. Learn it, be aware of it.
It isn;t about even men vs women. That's hate.
"Yeah, let's make a baby and love each other, by the way, I secretly hate you and want to compete with you, using old stereotypes like 'you think with your penis' or 'you belong in the kitchen and shouldn't be able to vote'."
Equality wouldn't exist, equality can't fully exist because things aren't so GENERAL. If generaliztions an dstereotypes were true, equality especially couldn't exist. Does this make sense?
Everyone is SPECIFIC. DIfferent. One woman can bench press 200 lbs...another MAN can't even benchpress 115 lbs.
One man can benchpress 350 lbs, another WOMAN can't even get the bar off of the bench.
Some girls raise their children with strict rules like no tv, only books until age 14. Some women raise their kids allowing them to do whatever they want. Results vary.
Men, same thing. Some men make good dads, or make good moms in some ways. Some women, same thing.
But trying to BLANKET men/women into categories is exactly what is happening because all of these PROGRESSIVE things are being based on stereotypes and getting lost for motivations because things are inherently different and therefore not equal. Not equal.
I think I just contradicted myself in several ways and blew this thing wide open, teaching myself something by way of error in communication and thinking.
Whatever it takes. Throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.
"Life is a bowl of spaghetti." - Al Fountain, May5, 2018. checks watch), 2:09 pm.
If everyone was equal, we'd all be able to massage the clitoris before a big test to relax.
10/10
So, to recap...
Equality. What the hell is that?
Respect. Please. Absolutely respect.
So, if a man or a woman can perform the same functions at the place of work, there is no excuse for an unequal salary.
But the media is selling everyone hate ammo. The battle of the sexes doesn't seem to want to go away. I see this venom instilled in even the most scholarly adults. It's in there like $3 pasta sauce.
If we want REAL equality, we will respect each other and realize "most" anything can be possible within reason, and people have the capacity to change or reach for the stars, but we must realize and accept our limitations.
We have been experiencing social justice CGI.
Mr Minio
05-05-18, 03:36 PM
Please perpetuate your civilisation by producing some children. Yeah, I'll make a child and then the little bastard will hate on arthouse, or even worse - start listening to rap music. Thanks, but no thanks.
Stirchley
05-07-18, 02:49 PM
Stirchley, please...give me a break.
LOL. You started the thread & now you want me to give you a break?!
And no woman wants a penis? Might wanna sk around on that ione, lol.
I have never heard any woman say she wants this. And why would she?!
Men can lift more weight- there'll never be a woman who breaks the male world records for power lifting. I'll give you 10,000:1 if you want to put money on it
What woman on earth gives a fig about power lifting?!
If everyone was equal, we'd all be able to massage the clitoris before a big test to relax.
Definitely the most bizarre statement I am going to read this week!
Stirchley, please...give me a break.
LOL. You started the thread & now you want me to give you a break?!
And no woman wants a penis? Might wanna sk around on that ione, lol.
I have never heard any woman say she wants this. And why would she?!
Men can lift more weight- there'll never be a woman who breaks the male world records for power lifting. I'll give you 10,000:1 if you want to put money on it
What woman on earth gives a fig about power lifting?!
If everyone was equal, we'd all be able to massage the clitoris before a big test to relax.
Definitely the most bizarre statement I am going to read this week!
Have you watched Tootsie yet?
Its not bad. Love Dustin Hoffman.
Well we can still be internet friends, Stirchley. If you want.
Stirchley
05-07-18, 03:35 PM
Have you watched Tootsie yet?
Its not bad. Love Dustin Hoffman.
Ha. Nice pivot.
Well we can still be internet friends, Stirchley. If you want.
I’ve always loved Aries men. :)
donniedarko
05-07-18, 04:23 PM
What woman on earth gives a fig about power lifting?!
!
It’s actually making a decent comeback in the US- for men and women. You’d be amazed how many girls are doing power lifts at any gym across the states right now. But I didn’t houseboat it as an example of something women should care about- just something the genders aren’t equal in
cat_sidhe
05-07-18, 04:50 PM
Well, if there were just handing willies out, I'd take one! :D
Guaporense
05-07-18, 05:04 PM
All values of western civilisation--liberty equality fraternity---are going to die out if western civilisation is not perpetuated by producing children. Please perpetuate your civilisation by producing some children. Right now towns villages school colleges are emptying out due to lack of young people. You got to have your own progeny to take care of you in your old age .
Don't worry we can just adopt children from poor countries to replace our unborn children. :D
Guaporense
05-07-18, 05:08 PM
Looking at fertility rates interestingly in China, Brazil, Japan, US and Europe are all below 2 which is the replacement rate:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=BR-CN-JP-US-EU
Although US's fertility rate of 1.8 is still pretty good, Japan managed to have population grow even with it's fertility rate below 2 between 1975 and 2010. Now, however, it is just too low at around 1.4-1.5.
What woman on earth gives a fig about power lifting?!
Definitely the most bizarre statement I am going to read this week!
those two quotes certainly go together.
I have come to believe you are a man. You never said you were a wom,an so i'm going with that. It all makes sense now as the pennies drop from heaven.
Now, for your daily challenge, please contact Dr Jan Todd at The University of Texas. I'm sure you can find her twitter seeing as you love it so much. And ask her "what woman on earth gives a fig about powerlifting"
There you go, mate!
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