Killing Eve

[MonnoM]

"Eve's life as a spy is not adding up to what she had hoped it would be when she started. She is a bored, very smart, MI5 security officer who is very desk-bound. Villanelle is a very talented killer, mercurial in mood, who clings to the luxuries of her job. Eve and Villanelle go head to head in a fierce game of cat and mouse, each woman equally obsessed with the other as Eve is tasked with hunting down the psychopathic assassin."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbe3w425o4I

[MovieMad16]

I've started watching this and so far it's decent, but not brilliant.

Jodie Comer is the highlight so far. This is the first time I'm seeing her and she's very good. I've never been that hot on Sandra Oh, and her character kind of annoys me in this. I liked her in Sideways but that was a long time ago, here she's just very scatty and disorganised. I must admit I'm not a fan of those type of characters.

[Stirchley]

By virtue of the fact that I could not find anything on Hulu to watch, I started to watch this. Enjoying it 2 episodes in. Very strong 2 female leads & I like both of them. Jodie Comer is new to me & she’s delightful (even though she plays a psychopath).

Will see how it goes. At any rate, it’s something different.

[Stirchley]

I’m hooked. Re-watched first 2 episodes this p.m. Really good show.

[Nausicaä]

I <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 the series Killing Eve.

[honeykid]

I like Killing Eve too. I'm watching at UK broadcast pace (season 2, ep4 tonight) and I enjoy it. I think it's overhyped, but I have a theory about that. Naturally. I think it connects more with women than men. Not that all women love it and men don't or any crap like that. It's just that all the, what I consider overly lavish praise for this series, has been written by women. And I do mean all. That's not to say there isn't something similar out there written by a man (surely there must be?) but I've not read it yet. Maybe there's an inbuilt bias in the reviewing? As it is so 'female' (the first season was written by the creator and writer of the wonderful Fleabag. Which I heartily recommend) female reviewers/journalists are given the job of reviewing it more often that a male?

I only know two other people who watch this IRL. One male, the other female. The female thinks it's amazing, whilst myself and the other guy think it's really good, but not the masterpiece so many (women) say. Not as extreme, but it looks like there's a split on this thread too in the very few posts there have been.

I think it's because it's a very female programme and there's something in that which women pick up on. After all, it is very different to have women in so many prominent role in a production like this. Obviously there's the actresses, (I love Fiona Shaw in this. I think she steals every scene she's in, but then, she's usually on-screen with Sandra Oh who's the 'ordinary' character) then there's the writer(s), producer, exec producers.

Two great things for me about season 2 so far (don't worry, neither of these are spoilers) the first is Adrian Scarborough, who's an actor I really like and would cast as Jim Sterling in My Dad Wrote A Porno if I was ever allowed to do such a thing. Second is Emma Pierson, who's a stone cold fox. Still.

[Stirchley]

Hulu doesn’t have season 2 (idiots!) so have had to buy season 2 from amazon. One episode in, I think.

One thing I hate is that the show keeps killing off terrific male actors. Bill Haig is gone & the very tall actor has also gone.

Some of the scenes are very wacky & overly-long. Who was that older woman Villanelle was trying to seduce in season 1? Didn’t follow that arc at all & then the woman was out of the show.

Very unusual show. Jodie Comer v. excellent actor, as is Oh. Fiona too as a sex-bomb is very funny & believable.

[Gideon58]

Just finished the first two episodes of season one...my original attraction to this show was Sandra Oh, who I still miss on Grey's Anatomy, but there's so much more here. I loved the irony of the two principal characters meeting in the ladies room in the pilot. I love the fact that this assassin is getting cocky and showing off. I'm already seeing the end of Eve's marriage and other collateral damage. Jodie Comer is a revelation as the icy assassin...an offbeat bit of casting that really works. Loved that scene when they were simultaneously googling each other. I was also intrigued by the fact that it was written by Phoebe Waller Bridge, the star of Fleabag. I'm liking this a lot more than Fleabag. I will definitely continue to watch for now.

[Stirchley]

⬆️ Didn’t like Fleabag at all, but enjoyed Killing Eve for a couple of seasons.

If you like Jodie Comer you might enjoy a BBC mini-series called Thirteen from 2016. Comer was so good in this.

[Gideon58]

Just wrapped ep 3...I knew the minute Bill started following her that she somehow knew she was being followed. The final scene was wonderful...this show features some really extraordinary camerawork.

[MovieMad16]

I like Killing Eve too. I'm watching at UK broadcast pace (season 2, ep4 tonight) and I enjoy it. I think it's overhyped, but I have a theory about that. Naturally. I think it connects more with women than men. Not that all women love it and men don't or any crap like that. It's just that all the, what I consider overly lavish praise for this series, has been written by women. And I do mean all. That's not to say there isn't something similar out there written by a man (surely there must be?) but I've not read it yet. Maybe there's an inbuilt bias in the reviewing? As it is so 'female' (the first season was written by the creator and writer of the wonderful Fleabag. Which I heartily recommend) female reviewers/journalists are given the job of reviewing it more often that a male?

I only know two other people who watch this IRL. One male, the other female. The female thinks it's amazing, whilst myself and the other guy think it's really good, but not the masterpiece so many (women) say. Not as extreme, but it looks like there's a split on this thread too in the very few posts there have been.

I think it's because it's a very female programme and there's something in that which women pick up on. After all, it is very different to have women in so many prominent role in a production like this. Obviously there's the actresses, (I love Fiona Shaw in this. I think she steals every scene she's in, but then, she's usually on-screen with Sandra Oh who's the 'ordinary' character) then there's the writer(s), producer, exec producers.

Two great things for me about season 2 so far (don't worry, neither of these are spoilers) the first is Adrian Scarborough, who's an actor I really like and would cast as Jim Sterling in My Dad Wrote A Porno if I was ever allowed to do such a thing. Second is Emma Pierson, who's a stone cold fox. Still.

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

My mum is really enjoying it more than I am, and I just sort of tolerate the show a bit more (see my review thread). I see the initial flaws and problems, whilst I think a lot of 'critics' these days just become fans more so than critics and just overtly praise a show too much.

[Gideon58]

Just wrapped episode 4...not really clear as to why these people are after Frank. I couldn't believe Villanelle actually sent Eve's suitcase back to her and made sure she knew she had been through it. I also know that those other two assassins Villanelle was working with would be dead before the end of the episode. The final scene was excellent.

[Gideon58]

Ep 5 was AMAZING!! I'm all in now. I still don't get why Villaleal bought Eve a new wardrobe, but they did clear up why these guys were after Frank. Needless to say, the confrontation between Eve and Villaleal was extraordinary...beautifully directed and acted. Also was very pleased to learn that Villaleal wasn't supposed to kill those other two assassins. I also believed her when she said she hates what she does. Loving this.

[Gideon58]

Just wrapped ep 6....wow...nothing is as it seems here...allegiances change from scene to scene and no one sees to be who we thought they were...the only constant here are Eve's instincts. This one's definitely got my mind racing,, but I'm thinking I need to just stop trying to figure out what's going on and just watch.

[Gideon58]

Just watched ep 7. As much as we've been shown about what an inventive assassin she is, I love that one of Villaneal's greatest weapons is her sexuality. I knew there was more to Carolyn than meets they eye. Even though things don't look bright for them, I really hope nothing happens to Eve's husband or Kenny.

[Gideon58]

Just finished the season 1 finale...fascinating...I'm beginning to think that her sexuality is the most dangerous weapon in Villanel's arsenal. The power she can exert over people, especially women, is like nothing I've seen. I'm very curious about the relationship between Villanel and Constantin...it's so complex I want to know more. Looking forward to season 2.

[Gideon58]

Just wrapped ep 1 of season two...I LOVED that it began thirty seconds after the season 1 finale. Villaleal is definitely the most durable assassin I have ever seen. I don't believe a word that comes out Carolyn's mouth.

[Gideon58]

Season 2 ep 2 was beyond odd...the whole thing with Julian was too creepy...what were his plans for her? This was the first time since I've started watching where Villaneal seemed to be feeling vulnerable and scared. I can't believe she just let the old woman walk away, for some reason I think that's going to become important later. I really need to stop trying to figure this out and jjust watch.

[Gideon58]

Ep 3 of season 2 was a little confusing but never uninteresting...Carolyn definitely seems to be the one who has all the power here, but can't tell where the power is coming from yet...the relationship between Constantin and Villanel continues to confuse and it was great to see Villlanel be worried about that other assassin. And for a show so rich with gritty realism, I had a hard time getting behind Eve "sensing" Villanel" was behind that door...felt forced to me. I'm hating what's coming between Eve and Kenny and the finale with the lipstick was perfection.

[Gideon58]

Thanks to ep 4, I'm now thinking that Villanelle might actually be working for Carolyn, but I've learned to assume nothing on this show until I'm told straight out. I'm also finding Villanelle's whole "I'm bored" motif kind of childish, as was the attempted murder in that ladies room...it seems kind of early for her to be seriously screwing up the way she is, but it is what it is.

[honeykid]

I find a couple of things in your last two posts a little odd. Firstly, "gritty" is never how this programme seemed to me. It's too stylized to be gritty, for me. Almost fanciful and echoing those Euro thrillers of the 60's and 70's.

I've also always thought that Villanelle was childish. I mean, she always kicks against any suggestion that she can't do as she pleases and sulks on the occasions where she realises that's the way it has to be.

[Gideon58]

It is stylized but the gruesome nature of some of the murders we've witnessed definitely suggests a grittiness. I do understand that Villanelle has always been kind of childish, what I was trying to say was that it has grown tiresome.


Just finished ep 5 of season 2,l which was the first episode I've noticed where Sandra Oh is billed as an executive producer...usually not a good sign for a TV show. Most TV shows take a definite dip in quality when the star becomes an executive producer, but this episode was pretty solid. I hated seeing the parting of Eve and Kenny. Kenny seems to be the only character on this show who has his head screwed on right. Loved Villanelle meeting Nico too. I think the more Eve tries shut Nico out, the more danger she's putting him in.

[Stirchley]

Most TV shows take a definite dip in quality when the star becomes an executive producer ...

Why is that do you think?

[Gideon58]

I don't know why it's just a pattern I've noticed over the years. Look at the first few seasons of MASH and then look at the 5th or 6th season when Alan Alda became executive producer...the show became pompous and boring.

[Gideon58]

Just finished ep 6...as I predicted, her work has destroyed Eve's marriage. I guess we're supposed to feel bad for her but she brought this on herself. Villanelle was a riot at the AA meeting and what the hell was going through her mind when she was looking at that pot in the fish & chips place?

[honeykid]

I honestly don't know if we're supposed to feel bad for Eve or not, for the very reason that she has brought it on herself. If anything, I felt we were supposed to feel sorry for Nico, as he's the 'innocent' party in it all.

[Gideon58]

Just finished season 2...despite ending on the ultimate red herring/cliffhanger, it has become obvious over the last two episodes of the season that these two women's lives are now intermingled until one of them dies, even if what we all think is going to happen doesn't happen. Death is the only thing that can separate them now. I hate that I still don't know who works for who...Carolyn is obviously "The Man" but does she really run The Twelve? That just seems too easy. I'm also continually fascinated by the mystery of the relationship between Villanelle and Constantine. Looking forward to season 3.

[Gideon58]

Just watched the season 3 opener and am not happy with the way the season 2 finale was just kind of glossed over. And I am DEFINITELY not happy about Kenny...not Kenny! Not happy at alll.

[Gideon58]

Ep 2 was odd...Carolyn seems to be taking her son's death very well and Villanelle is totally out of control. The fight has been completely knocked out of Eve I wish she would get it back.

[Gideon58]

Ep 3 was easily the best one since the pilot, as this show continues to pose more questions than it answers...Carolyn's place in this madness is still undeniably confusing as is the relationship between Villanelle and Constantine. And I don't know how Villanelle knew Eve was on that bus, but that scene was worth the price of admission all by itself. Did that woman seriously put that baby in a trash can? And it's official...Villannelle is insane.

[Gideon58]

Just finished ep 4...just when I thought I was beginning to piece things together, I am now totally confused again.

[honeykid]

Did that woman seriously put that baby in a trash can? And it's official...Villannelle is insane.
When I saw that I wondered if it was at all inspired by this infamous story from over here. I can't believe this was 10 years ago now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYdUZdan5i8

[Stirchley]

When I saw that I wondered if it was at all inspired by this infamous story from over here. I can't believe this was 10 years ago now.

I remember this story. Crazy bitch put a cat in the garbage can.

[Gideon58]

Well, I thought we were going to make history with ep 5 being the first "death-free" episode of this show, but it was not to be. Her own family...this bitch be crazy.

[Gideon58]

Just wrapped ep 6...that scene with Carolyn and her daughter was the first Carolyn scene since I've begun watching this show where I actually believed what she was saying. Loved her scene in the car with Constantin too. The alleged symbolism of Dasha and Eve in the bowling alley came off forced. Villanelle's budding relationship with Irina redefines squirm worthy.

[honeykid]

Well, I thought we were going to make history with ep 5 being the first "death-free" episode of this show, but it was not to be. Her own family...this bitch be crazy.

Surely you saw that ending coming? I loved it though. That whole episode if fantastic, IMO. Possibly my favourite in the season.

[Gideon58]

Ep 3 was the best of the season

[Gideon58]

Finished season 3...glad Carolyn can clean about her son, I suspected as much. Glad Dasha's dead...I hated her...the final scene was a little ambiguous for my taste, but I should have expected as much. I won't be sitting on pins and needles, but will be watching season 4 when it rolls around.

[Gideon58]

Just learned that they are three episodes in on season 4, so I will try to catch up before the week is out.

[Gideon58]

After watching the season 4 opener, I have to confess that the first thing that crossed my mind is that I wish I had re-watched season 3 first because there was either a stuff that I forgot from season 3 or it happened offscreen between seasons. Another thing that immediately leaped to mind as I watched this is one of the main reasons I love this show...nothing in this show is presented in black and white, no matter how much attention is paid. This whole thing of Villanelle's "rebirth" is beyond creepy and her sincerity regarding the process is, as expected, questionable. That scene with the black cat was awesome, I knew something was going to happen, but didn't see that coming. I know that father and daughter Villanelle is staying with probably won't be around before the season ends. Love Eve's new partner...talk about sex on legs. Loved when she said she didn't want to see his nipples unless they agreed with her. I've also been confused about Carolyn's position with The Twelve...does she work for them or do they work for her and I may have gotten my answer in this episode. And can we just give Jodie Comer an Emmy already? She's amazing.

[Gideon58]

The second ep of season 4 revealed that Villanelle's desire to change was sincere, but she wanted to do it on her own terms and that turned out to be impossible, That final scene with her and her alter-ego was awesome. Meanwhile Eve and Carolyn both seem to have trouble keeping their eye on the prize. Loved the music in this ep too, especially that new version of "Anyone who had a heart".

[Gideon58]

Just watched ep3...is Villanelle's capture the end of her desire to to change? Or knowing that Eve is wise to her is what will stop her desire to change? The inexplicable link between Eve and Villanelle seems to get stronger as the twelve begin dropping like flies. And how much does Koinstantin have to do with it? And why were the scenes all of a sudden titled after the characters instead of the locations? I grow more confused with each episode, but it's like a traffic accident...I can't look and I can't look away.

[Gideon58]

Ok, I definitely missed something somewhere...Villanelle is part of the Twelve? I thought she either worked for them or they were after her. I like Konstantine's new Villanelle, thoughI didn't get the scene on the tilt-o-whirl and the chemistry between Eve and Helen is off te charts. Carolyn is still the show's biggest enigma...I still feel like nothing that comes out of her mouth is the truth.

[Gideon58]

Well, ep 5 finally offered some shocking backstory on the Twelve...are we now supposed to believe, after everything we've seen, that Konstantin is one of the founding fathers of the Twelve? And are we supposed to believe that he tried to take out Villanelle? I hope Eve can get away from Helenn...she's straight up insane. She's probably going to pick up that piece of paper that Konstantine gave to Villanelle. Curiouser and curiouser...

[Gideon58]

Strong work by Fiona Shaw as Carolyn keeps everyone guessing about where her loyalties lie...I was shocked when she actually mentioned her son's death for the first time in about a dozen episodes. Loved that fight scene with Helenn, Villananelle and Eve...I knew the second Helenn mentioned that Helenn had kissed Eve that she was dead. And now that Eve has had her first straight kill, what's next for her. Konstantine;s new assassin is good at what she does, but she still has too many "feelings" about it. If she's going to remain that emotionally connected to what she's doing, she's not going to be doing it for long. And who was that woman who fought Villanelle in Scotland in the final scene?

[Gideon58]

I was nice to see Eve lighten up a little bit in ep7, because I think she's beginning to lose it. Strill trying to figure out who Villanelle's new camping buddy is. Carolyn said she thought that man in the lobby was trying to poison her with that drink, but I could have sworn she took a sip of it before she told the new scary guy to help himself. New character after new character introduced in every episode. This show is getting very confusing.

[Gideon58]

Wow, ep 8 started out with a bang. or more precisely a scratch I guess...that was awesome when Eve literally scratched that girl's eyes out. No really understanding where Villanelle's feels are regarding Eve right now. Reading Villanelle the last few episodes has been pretty much impossible; loved when the tourists asked Eve and Villanelle how they met. I actually got a chill when they suggested that they read Eve and Villanelle's taro cards. Loved that the girls were only interested in hearing about their futures. The sleeping bag scene was stupid hot without being tasteless. For some reason, I'm not buying that Pam killed Konstantne, I think she's trying to set up Carolyn. Eve was so funny performing that marriage ceremony. This ep rocked because it got back to the heart of this show...relationship between Eve and Villanelle...feels like a new chapter.

[honeykid]

Umm, Gideon58 did you watch the whole episode? Because episode 8 was the final one. Do you have the order wrong or something?

It's gotten a lot of crap, but I think series 4 was the second best one. It was always going to end one of two ways (IMO) and this was one of them.

I won't say more until I know you've seen the last episode.

[Gideon58]

I think I did miss one, maybe two episodes. I'll let you know when I figure out exactly where I am.

[Gideon58]

Umm, Gideon58 did you watch the whole episode? Because episode 8 was the final one. Do you have the order wrong or something?

It's gotten a lot of crap, but I think series 4 was the second best one. It was always going to end one of two ways (IMO) and this was one of them.

I won't say more until I know you've seen the last episode.


OK, I think I watched all of the episodes and I gu4ess episode 8 didn't feel like a series finale because it probably wasn't originally intended to be the series finale, but it did provide some closuire.

[honeykid]

But one of them is dead. How is that not feeling like a series finale?

[Stirchley]

But one of them is dead. How is that not feeling like a series finale?

Stopped watching this show some time ago. Shocked that one of them (no idea who) is dead.