View Full Version : Vegan Pizza: My Review
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 03:02 PM
I had vegan pizza for the first time this past week.
It tasted alright.
If you intend to try vegan pizza I strongly suggest thoroughly baking it though, ideally after cleaning out your oven if you haven't used it in over 6 years cause I almost died in a grease fire.
Mr Minio
02-15-18, 03:05 PM
A great, long review, where you list all pros and cons of this pizza. Looking forward to other food reviews.
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 03:06 PM
A great, long review, where you list all pros and cons of this pizza. Looking forward to other food reviews.
Thank you for the feedback, I worried I might have rambled a bit at the end.
It's only vegan if covered in copious amounts of tofu and pineapple.
Have had it before. Agreed it was alright, missed out on the near grease fire death part of the experience though.
MoFo Vegans send your top ten foods to me for the Countdown! - https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=53044
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 03:16 PM
It's only vegan if covered in copious amounts of tofu and pineapple.
Ew, tofu.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 03:18 PM
I just realized my preferred pizza is vegan - I like onions & mushrooms as toppings.
Unless the pizza maker is using meat sauce as their tomato sauce, my pizza is already vegan.
I just realized my preferred pizza is vegan - I like onions & mushrooms as toppings.
Unless the pizza maker is using meat sauce as their tomato sauce, my pizza is already vegan.
You don't have cheese?
Also some pizza doughs contain dairy.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 03:25 PM
You don't have cheese?
D'oh!
I didn't consider dairy as non-vegan.
On that count - is doh entirely vegan? Don't they put other stuff in it (like butter or milk) for consistency and stuff to make it rise?? Also, I just realized mushrooms aren't vegetables, they are fungi - can you eat fungi and still be vegan?
All this classification is a confusing... I'll just remain an omnivore (which should give me less qualms about cannibalism after the apocalypse)!
Ew, tofu.
Slimey little sucker, isnt it. Have you ever decided how strange it is that vegans buy faux food made of things like tofu and kitty litter in an attempt to starve out New York Cut eaters by buying anything labelled 'sausage', 'rissole' 'meatball', steak', 'snitzel'? Bizarre. And while they're busy sitting on their high horsies (Oh how Ingrid Newkirk would loathe them for using animals for human entertainment) they forgot to check whether palm oil was used in the manufacture of their faux meal because they didnt have enough brain cells to count how many fingers they had.
D'oh!
I didn't consider dairy as non-vegan.
On that count - is doh entirely vegan? Don't they put other stuff in it (like butter or milk) for consistency and stuff to make it rise?? Also, I just realized mushrooms aren't vegetables, they are fungi - can you eat fungi and still be vegan?
All this classification is a confusing... I'll just remain an omnivore (which should give me less qualms about cannibalism after the apocalypse)!
Yeah i made a second post saying some doughs have dairy, some don't but chances are your pizza dough from the average pizza place do. Mushrooms are vegan.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 03:34 PM
Yeah i made a second post saying some doughs have dairy, some don't but chances are your pizza dough from the average pizza place do. Mushrooms are vegan.
So vegans eat mushrooms and yeast? Fungi killers!
Honey is also anti vegan so remind the vegan next time you see them shoveling a honey sour dough bagel down their throat while sitting on a crappy, uncomfortable milk crate to look uber hipster, and smashing an avocado that cost their weekly pay packet.
Vegetarian vs. Vegan. I learned a lot when Sarah went from the former to the latter.
So vegans eat mushrooms and yeast? Fungi killers!
Omni is the person to ask about this stuff not me, but i believe it's because they aren't sentient. They don't have a nervous system or a brain. There's different types of Vegans so there could be some that don't eat mushrooms for that reason, not sure.
Ew, tofu.
*sends a favourite food with Tofu* :D
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 03:49 PM
Honey is also anti vegan so remind the vegan next time you see them shoveling a honey sour dough bagel down their throat while sitting on a crappy, uncomfortable milk crate to look uber hipster, and smashing an avocado that cost their weekly pay packet.
That's interesting. I never knew vegans had a "beef" with honey!
Honey could be considered an animal by-product, but at the same time it could not be. It is because it's made by bees, but it doesn't come directly from the insects' bodies (like milk comes from mammals), the insects simply collect it from plants and process it inside a honeycomb into honey.
I'm calling vegans on this one because honey is plant matter. It shouldn't be off their diet just because it's handled by bees. It would be like a vegan saying they couldn't eat an apple I gave them because I, a human, picked it off a tree, then washed it with my human hands, under a spiggett of water that went through a human-built water sterilization plant - thus the apple was no longer vegan-applicable. ;)
cat_sidhe
02-15-18, 03:49 PM
:lol:
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 03:55 PM
can you eat fungi and still be vegan?
Can't kill it if it's zombie.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=41770&stc=1&d=1518724378
All this classification is a confusing... I'll just remain an omnivore
Speaking of classifications. >_>
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 04:00 PM
Slimey little sucker, isnt it. Have you ever decided how strange it is that vegans buy faux food made of things like tofu and kitty litter in an attempt to starve out New York Cut eaters by buying anything labelled 'sausage', 'rissole' 'meatball', steak', 'snitzel'? Bizarre.
The greater the demand, the greater the supply, the greater the competition with actual meat products. Plus the price'll go down.
Main reason is most people are hung up on taste.
And while they're busy sitting on their high horsies (Oh how Ingrid Newkirk would loathe them for using animals for human entertainment) they forgot to check whether palm oil was used in the manufacture of their faux meal
Shouldn't be consuming oils anyway.
because they didnt have enough brain cells to count how many fingers they had.
If I included a teaspoon of oil in every meal I ever ate, I would still contribute less to environmental destruction than somebody who eats a burger once a week.
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 04:03 PM
Honey is also anti vegan so remind the vegan next time you see them shoveling a honey sour dough bagel down their throat while sitting on a crappy, uncomfortable milk crate to look uber hipster, and smashing an avocado that cost their weekly pay packet.
Think they get enough protein?
*sends a favourite food with Tofu* :D
I don't like whole tofu. I don't like whole tomatos either, but I included tomato stuff.
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 04:08 PM
That's interesting. I never knew vegans had a "beef" with honey!
I went vegan for the bees.
Honey could be considered an animal by-product, but at the same time it could not be. It is because it's made by bees, but it doesn't come directly from the insects' bodies (like milk comes from mammals), the insects simply collect it from plants and process it inside a honeycomb into honey.
I'm calling vegans on this one because honey is plant matter. It shouldn't be off their diet just because it's handled by bees. It would be like a vegan saying they couldn't eat an apple I gave them because I, a human, picked it off a tree, then washed it with my human hands, under a spiggett of water that went through a human-built water sterilization plant - thus the apple was no longer vegan-applicable. ;)
Would you be fond of having the roof ripped off your house periodically only to have a giant hand reach into your kitchen and rip the pantry out?
If I included a teaspoon of oil in every meal I ever ate, I would still contribute less to environmental destruction than somebody who eats a burger once a week.
Tell that to an orangutan.
Back to bees, you have to question the mental health of anyone who listens to the poor excuse for a primate that left instructions in her Will for the skin and flesh from her arse to be made into a lampshade, right? That media slut (her words, not mine) . She needs to keep her slatternly ways to herself. I dont know where that arse has been. No doubt on a leather lounge. Do vegans have any functioning neurons? Debatable, except for Sarah. She's a nice lady (said in Mark Warlberg's voice).
Ingrid is lacking opposable thumbs so I give you her instructions on factory farmed bees. How did she morph from one who does not have opposable thumbs? Easy. She sliced them off while butchering puppies and kittens every morning before work. Just ask her.
Yes folks, the great white Ingrid is a puppy and kittie killer, including sea kitties. Remember that unhinged campaign?
http://www.adweek.com/files/adfreak/6a00d8341c51c053ef010536c2c429970b-450wi
Back to bees and how to be an irritating vegan
https://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/whats-wrong-with-eating-honey/
Vegans frt, a lot! And they smell bad. And they eat babies.
come to india . half the population is vegetarian and eats veg pizzas only . they will teach you make several different types of veg pizzas .
come to india . half the population is vegetarian and eats veg pizzas only . they will teach you make several different types of veg pizzas .
Vegan Pizzas are a lot different from Vegetarian Pizza's.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 05:33 PM
I went vegan for the bees.
Would you be fond of having the roof ripped off your house periodically only to have a giant hand reach into your kitchen and rip the pantry out?
Is that the reason that honey is not vegan, Omni? That getting honey is mean to bees?
Here's the thing: I tend to think (based on observation) that insects don't really get frustrated (if they did, they might be apt to give up, go on vacation, take sick days, seek out a different occupation or retire).
Sure they're living things, but it seems they are almost 100% instinct - basically like robots carrying out their programming. Since most honey is harvested by beekeepers, the bees are not harmed (in fact their well-being is the beekeeper's priority) and only disturbed momentarily to have their filled honeycomb replaced with the screen for a new one which they continue building as they do mindlessly for their whole lives whether the honey is taken or not. So I get the sense that bees don't really care when their honey is taken when all they do is work to make more.
Of course they are also driven by instinct to defend the nest - this I believe is not for personal reasons (this land belonged to our ancestors!) but for practicality against animals that would destroy it in the wild to get the honey - it's just a matter of energy dispensation as workers now have to be devoted to repairing the nest.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 05:39 PM
Last post written before reading the article Dani linked.
The only beekeepers I've seen in documentaries and such usually make care for the insects and sustaining the security of the hive a priority, but I guess in all industries there are those whose focus is on mass production and the bottom line at all costs. (But ultimately, mistreating your workers - whether insect or human - will always backfire.)
come to india . half the population is vegetarian and eats veg pizzas only . they will teach you make several different types of veg pizzas .
Do they include Butter Chicken on those vegetarian pizza lists? I mean Butter Chicken isnt even Indian - it was an accident of birth - so I guess it's OK to pretend chickens are tofu.
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 07:14 PM
Tell that to an orangutan.
I don't eat orangutans either.
Back to bees, you have to question the mental health of anyone who listens to the poor excuse for a primate that left instructions in her Will for the skin and flesh from her arse to be made into a lampshade, right?
...who are you talking about?
That media slut (her words, not mine) .OH, Ingrid Newkirk. Right, god empress of all vegans.
She needs to keep her slatternly ways to herself. I dont know where that arse has been. No doubt on a leather lounge. Do vegans have any functioning neurons?
You know, your iMDB friends were quite insistent that I was the antagonist in their midst, yet... I dunno, is it just me or do you sound a teeny tiny bit insulting?
Back to bees and how to be an irritating vegan
Vegans frt, a lot! And they smell bad. And they eat babies.
Clearly I ALONE am at fault here for engaging the topic. People often tell me that I come across the wrong way, I am so so sorry, I did not in any way mean to offend.
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 07:22 PM
Is that the reason that honey is not vegan, Omni? That getting honey is mean to bees?
The term "vegan" was coined by The Vegan Society, who defines it as:
"Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."
Much as it calls it a "way of living", I detest it's portrayal as a "lifestyle". I consider it an ethical stance.
Here's the thing: I tend to think (based on observation) that insects don't really get frustrated (if they did, they might be apt to give up, go on vacation, take sick days, seek out a different occupation or retire).
Sure they're living things, but it seems they are almost 100% instinct - basically like robots carrying out their programming.
As opposed to...?
Since most honey is harvested by beekeepers, the bees are not harmed (in fact their well-being is the beekeeper's priority) and only disturbed momentarily to have their filled honeycomb replaced with the screen for a new one which they continue building as they do mindlessly for their whole lives whether the honey is taken or not.
While it is frequently disputing how many bees get killed and on what farms, my issue with it comes simply from the fact that they are commodified.
So I get the sense that bees don't really care when their honey is taken when all they do is work to make more.
So it would seem to anyone at a distance. If you stole somebody's money, would they continue to work to make more money, or would they give up?
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 07:35 PM
The term "vegan" was coined by The Vegan Society, who defines it as:
"Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."
Much as it calls it a "way of living", I detest it's portrayal as a "lifestyle". I consider it an ethical stance.
As opposed to...?
While it is frequently disputing how many bees get killed and on what farms, my issue with it comes simply from the fact that they are commodified.
So it would seem to anyone at a distance. If you stole somebody's money, would they continue to work to make more money, or would they give up?
I have no proof for my opinions on insects. I just think we do a lot of anthropomorphizing when it comes to animals. I don't think their relationship to pain or discomfort or worry or even concepts like past and present are the same as ours. I think a lot of our reactions to these things is dictated by our psychology and ability to conceive of probabilities & potentialities.
I remember reading about feral children's reaction (or lack thereof) to cold - that they'd run out of a house naked into snow without any qualms. This seems to indicate that the average person's reaction to finding themself naked in the snow is largely a combination of learned reactions & psychology than physical perception.
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 07:43 PM
I have no proof for my opinions on insects. I just think we do a lot of anthropomorphizing when it comes to animals.
This rather implies that sentience is a uniquely human characteristic.
I don't think their relationship to pain or discomfort or worry or even concepts like past and present are the same as ours.
They probably vary in slight and significant ways. But you have to ask yourself: If any one of these traits were present in a human, would it justify treating that human in the same way?
Take for example, relationship to pain. There are some people incapable of sensation as result of spinal damage and birth defects. Is it just to commodify them provided they meet this criteria?
I think a lot of our reactions to these things is dictated by our psychology and ability to conceive of probabilities & potentialities. I think our treatment of other animals is a product of our failure to exercise this ability.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 07:56 PM
I certainly don't condone cruelty toward animals (and yet I eat meat - kind of a contradiction).
Is the lion that hunts down and eats a gazelle cruel - probably not by our definition, and arguments could be made that he has no alternative to his dietary choices, which we do.
The question of sentience makes me wonder - should vegans be eating fungi?
We don't justify treating humans in the same way which is why we don't eat each other - yet we constantly engage in hurting & killing each other anyway. (Universally, a huge waste of protein).
The circle of life is perplexing... since meat turns into plant food (not directly, but through a process), so plants end up consuming the remains of meat, and vegans will eat plants, but won't eat meat. However you cut it, all life plays its role as a middle-man in the circle.
I'm just babbling at this point! ;)
Omnizoa
02-15-18, 08:18 PM
I certainly don't condone cruelty toward animals (and yet I eat meat - kind of a contradiction).
https://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/10709/2079557-tumblr_l4v4tph3e01qzhy30o1_500.jpg
Is the lion that hunts down and eats a gazelle cruel - probably not by our definition,
I would say so, but even if we were to grant it as cruel, it pales in comparison to humans.
The question of sentience makes me wonder - should vegans be eating fungi?
You know any sentient fungi?
The circle of life is perplexing... since meat turns into plant food (not directly, but through a process), so plants end up consuming the remains of meat, and vegans will eat plants, but won't eat meat. However you cut it, all life plays its role as a middle-man in the circle.
You joke about protein, but while protein is a myth continually ripped from it's grave, Vitamin B12 is a legitimate concern for vegans in a modern context. It originates from bacteria in the soil accumulated from dead organisms, but modern industrial agriculture scours it from our fruits and vegetables resulting in a tendency for nutritionally uninformed vegans to become deficient in it. The only reason non-vegans worry about it less is because they consume animal products which, curiously, aren't sanitized in the same way...
But in any case, my point is to emphasize that the popular strawman of veganism as a feeble attempt to be perfect or do no harm is unrealistic. It's simply a concerted effort to enforce our already accepted moral norms consistently.
I don't eat orangutans either.
...who are you talking about?
OH, Ingrid Newkirk. Right, god empress of all vegans.
You know, your iMDB friends were quite insistent that I was the antagonist in their midst, yet... I dunno, is it just me or do you sound a teeny tiny bit insulting?
Clearly I ALONE am at fault here for engaging the topic. People often tell me that I come across the wrong way, I am so so sorry, I did not in any way mean to offend.
Who am I supposedly insulting? I wish people would let me know before hand so I could kit myself out in my battle garb, put on my war paint and flounce around with a feather boa.. As for my 'friends', I had one friend from the better call saul board on imdb who invited me here. I had never heard of this place and wanted a new forum before the amazonian boat sank where we could discuss BCS and movies. I have no idea if he accused you of anything at all, if at all. Sorry about that but he rarely comes here these days. He and I discuss BCS; If you have something to say to him about something I'm not privvy to, take it up there if he drops by. I'm not a go between for anyone but myself, Omni. And from wha tI have seen of you in the little time I've been here, I doubt you can be insulted anyway, even by the best of them. My comments on this thread are about the hater of human kind called Ingrid On The FBI Terrorism Watch List Look At me I'm A Vegan Newkirk who would not approve of your vegan pizza unless you opened your wallet and gave her some money. And I have absolutely no idea who or what or why 'people' tell you how you come across to them .I make my own observations about people. :shrug: If people often tell you that as you claim then I dunno, that's your business, not mine. I'm not offended so I'm quite confused what you feel the need to apologise about.
So what was on your vegan pizza that was so important it needed a thread of it's own? Exotic truffels fromthe north eastern slope of Kanchenjunga or Machapuchare by any chance? Did you have vegan wine or beer to go with it? Do tell.
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 09:23 PM
https://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/10709/2079557-tumblr_l4v4tph3e01qzhy30o1_500.jpg
"Gooood-a-niiiight a-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!"
Omni's a Vegan they are referring to this quote as insulting i believe:
Do vegans have any functioning neurons?
Captain Steel
02-15-18, 09:52 PM
Omni's a Vegan they are referring to this quote as insulting i believe:
I think Omni's mad at me because I revealed I was an "Omnivore."
(Yes, I just realized it!) ;)
Omni's a Vegan they are referring to this quote as insulting i believe:
Oh. I had no idea he was a vegan. Was I supposed to know somehow by osmosis or crystal ball? OK so I see now why he thought I was rude. I should have said vegans who bash others over the head with half a lentil burger and some limp lettuce to shove their agenda down their throat. He never has to me obviously, because I wasnt aware of his lifestyle choices. The only good vegan is one who doesnt jump at the chance to let everyone know they are vegan (unless I invite them for dinner in which case I expect to be told so I can cater to their diet), the same for carnivores and omnivores. Dont jump up and down making a big deal as if their choices are impacted upon by someone having a different diet and I wont make judgment calls on their inability to engage their brain cell b4efore opening their mouths.
I retract my comment about me coming across as rude. I just reread that part of my post. If he decided to have his feels hurt by taking the neuron comment out of context then I cant helpthat. It wouldnt have mattered how I phrased it, he still would have chosen to feel insulted. /Sure I could have clarified my comment was about Newkirk's followers but I'm pretty sure he is bright enough to have known that so why make a scene about it. Beats me.
Do they include Butter Chicken on those vegetarian pizza lists? I mean Butter Chicken isnt even Indian - it was an accident of birth - so I guess it's OK to pretend chickens are tofu.
butter chicken is indian . it was invented in india's capital delhi . read more---
In his new home in Delhi, Gujral founded a new restaurant, Moti Mahal, in Daryaganj. The refrigeration facilities or lack of thereof at that time led to Gujral having to innovate again to avoid wastage, especially that of the unsold tandoori tikkas. He deduced that a tomato gravy, lush in butter and cream, would soften his leftover chicken and served it as such. The combination proved to be a masterstroke and thus, by accident or an act of genius, the butter chicken was born.
https://www.thebetterindia.com/75100/butter-chicken-history-kundan-lal-gujral/
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 08:25 AM
Omni's a Vegan they are referring to this quote as insulting i believe:Do vegans have any functioning neurons? Oh. I had no idea he was a vegan.Would it make any difference to your behavior? Cause I'd rather people insult me to my face, quite honestly.
The only good vegan is one who doesnt jump at the chance to let everyone know they are veganThat's a funny trope, really funny, but I'm willing to bet that it's not that they inform you of their views which gets under your skin, but that their views implicitly challenge how your view yourself.
why make a scene about it.
Why indeed.
Nah. It's just the condescending attitude and judging lectures. My cousin is a loverly poster child of that.
Would it make any difference to your behavior? Cause I'd rather people insult me to my face, quite honestly.
That's a funny trope, really funny, but I'm willing to bet that it's not that they inform you of their views which gets under your skin, but that their views implicitly challenge how your view yourself.
Why indeed.
Oh give me a break. You know full well I wasnt insulting you. That question was made for newkirk's lemmings but take it out of context if it suits your purposes.And that's a trope, is it? Wow. I had no idea. And how is the way I view myself being challenged? Ever see me telling people they shouldnt eat animals and go and dump graphic pamphlets in the hands of little kids at school trying to turn them against their mothers for making them eat their dinner, or trying to get myself on the FBI terrorism watchlist for extremism? If it calms you a little, come over for a vegan meal. I cook them frequently. Deary me.
It aint pizza if it don't got some MILK IN THE DOUGH and MEAT ON THE TOP!!!!!
https://i.imgur.com/cg1tZWt.jpg
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 07:17 PM
And that's a trope, is it? Wow. I had no idea.
Didn't you though?
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=41837&stc=1&d=1518822926
And how is the way I view myself being challenged? Ever see me telling people they shouldnt eat animals and go and dump graphic pamphlets in the hands of little kids at school trying to turn them against their mothers for making them eat their dinner,
Call me subversive.
Thanks for posting but I cant read that. Sorry to waste your time.
There are much more important things in the world than wasting my energy on your sneakily subversive attempt to flame bait over a vegan pizza BBQ, but I hope you digested it well enough, omni, and good news you didnt burn yourself to death over a kitchen fire.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 07:55 PM
There are much more important things in the world than wasting my energy on your sneakily subversive attempt to flame bait over a vegan pizza BBQ,
It's my fault you rolled up with a laundry list of hateful stereotypes?
Well, at least I thought the thread started out pretty funny. :)
Omnizoa what's some Vegan foods you'd tell non-vegans to check out?
I've got some suggestions but i eat meat so that's obviously dumb and awful.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 09:18 PM
@Omnizoa (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=89138) what's some Vegan foods you'd tell non-vegans to check out?
I've got some suggestions but i eat meat so that's obviously dumb and awful.
Uhhh... I dunno, it's not like vegans eat anything special. The only things non-vegans wouldn't eat are generally vegan approximations of what they already eat.
It's my fault you rolled up with a laundry list of hateful stereotypes?
Do you have a methane repository where you keep your arsenal of bait for weekends when you are so bored? Yeah, no, but so long and thanks for all the fish. Surely there's a knitting group for you to go to and terrorise the kindly old ladies? Ta Ta.
Uhhh... I dunno, it's not like vegans eat anything special. The only things non-vegans wouldn't eat are generally vegan approximations of what they already eat.
Think this demonstrates that Omni is a terrible spokesman for Veganism so we should all stop treating him as one.
Omni is a long time Vegan that will answer any of your questions about it though, so maybe they should be treated as a valuable source of information...i dunno :shrug:
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 09:29 PM
Camo I was never one of those people who got big into cooking or gardening, so I'm really not the sort of person to pitch recipes or anything.
Camo I was never one of those people who got big into cooking or gardening, so I'm really not the sort of person to pitch recipes or anything.
Trying Vegan Food has definitely resulted in my highest spit out ratio, but i've also found some delicious stuff. Always in its own way, Vegan "chicken" Wings are delicious at least the ones i had, but in their own right not as a replacement for Chicken Wings. Obviously i continued eating Chicken Wings right after that but i'm just saying i didn't think of that as a good replacement and didn't really understand why it was advertized as such. Was really tasty anyway.
Captain Steel
02-16-18, 09:54 PM
Think this demonstrates that Omni is a terrible spokesman for Veganism so we should all stop treating him as one.
Omni is a long time Vegan that will answer any of your questions about it though, so maybe they should be treated as a valuable source of information...i dunno :shrug:
I learned a lot here so far -
I learned that just because pizza has veggies on top, it still isn't vegan.
I learned that vegans eat fungi.
I learned Omni's not a fan of tofu.
I learned that Honey is not vegan because some people are mean to bees.
I learned that we shouldn't be consuming oils anyway.
I learned half of India eats veg pizzas.
I learned the definition of veganism.
I learned that John Cleese is still funny (Goood-a-Niiiight a-ding-ding-ding-ding!)
I learned "butter chicken" is Indian.
I learned there are Vegan Tropes.
I learned "It aint pizza if it don't got some MILK IN THE DOUGH and MEAT ON THE TOP!!!!!"
I learned that the food pyramid and pizza are the same thing.
I learned a lot here so far -
I learned that just because pizza has veggies on top, it still isn't vegan.
I learned that vegans eat fungi.
I learned Omni's not a fan of tofu.
I learned that Honey is not vegan because some people are mean to bees.
I learned that we shouldn't be consuming oils anyway.
I learned half of India eats veg pizzas.
I learned the definition of veganism.
I learned that John Cleese is still funny (Goood-a-Niiiight a-ding-ding-ding-ding!)
I learned "butter chicken" is Indian.
I learned there are Vegan Tropes.
I learned "It aint pizza if it don't got some MILK IN THE DOUGH and MEAT ON THE TOP!!!!!"
I learned that the food pyramid and pizza are the same thing.
Pretty much none of this is true.
Captain Steel
02-16-18, 11:40 PM
Pretty much none of this is true.
LOL!
Citizen Rules
02-16-18, 11:59 PM
I just put my mostly vegan pizza into the oven. Which means all those little innocent yeast are going to die:( But what the hell, yeast makes pizza dough rise...and yeast makes beer good! But not the same yeast. OK that's it for now.
Captain Steel
02-17-18, 12:02 AM
I just put my mostly vegan pizza into the oven. Which means all those little innocent yeast are going to die:( But what the hell, yeast makes pizza dough rise...and yeast makes beer good! But not the same yeast. OK that's it for now.
It's okay, yeast are fungi.
There's this hilarious mushroom I hang out with - he's such a fun guy!
I don't think anyone here can even imagine what Vegan Pizza is if they continually imagine it as just a sidestep from Vegetarian Pizza.
It's something completely different in every way you know Pizza. It's not the same thing at all and you'd probably not even recognize it as pizza if you had it.
Citizen Rules
02-17-18, 12:09 AM
I've had vegan pizza before. I was on a gluten free diet so the cheese wasn't cheese, but this crap that tasted like Elmer's glue! I kid you not, it wouldn't brown and it was sticky as hell. I forget what it was called, but it was gross.
I've had vegan pizza before. I was on a gluten free diet so the cheese wasn't cheese, but this crap that tasted like Elmer's glue! I kid you not, it wouldn't brown and it was sticky as hell. I forget what it was called, but it was gross.
Yeah, vegan cheese is pretty gross. Didn't read your post as sarcastic, sorry.
Captain Steel
02-17-18, 12:19 AM
I don't think anyone here can even imagine what Vegan Pizza is if they continually imagine it as just a sidestep from Vegetarian Pizza.
It's something completely different in every way you know Pizza. It's not the same thing at all and you'd probably not even recognize it as pizza if you had it.
Without milk & yeast in the dough I have to wonder what the crust feels like... and with no real cheese on top... doesn't sound like the pizza most of us know.
I like a nice "white" pie (does anyone still call it "pie"?) with melted manicotti and spinach!
A long time ago I started getting a veggie pizza at a local shop (run by "Tony" of course - straight from Italy.) He'd put every vegetable he had on top and every pie was different depending what vegetables he'd throw on that day - sometimes it would have broccoli, spinach, eggplant, plus all the standards. It weighed a ton too - and you usually had to eat it with utensils because he'd load it up.
Movie related story: 1989 - my friend and I were going to see Batman and I guess we were wearing our Batman shirts (like silly fanboys!). We stopped at Tony's and he asked us what was up with the shirts, so we told him we were going to see Batman. So he asked (insert Italian accent), "Why every-a-body got-a this Badda-man? All the kids want-a the Badda-man! Why? Wha's a-wrong-a wi' the Good-a-man? Nobody like-a the Good-a-man any-a-more? Now, people only like-a the Bad-a-Man!"
Tony always had an expression on his face like he was miserable... but he was freakin hilarious!
My main point was Vegetarian Pizza may as well have a pound of bacon on it for how different it is to Vegan Pizza.
Vegetarian Pizza is a very easy thing for everyone to eat coz it's got (real) cheese and sauce, only having onions or peppers or whatever is an easy thing. Take away the cheese and use non dairy dough then see how fundamentally different it is from what you're used to.
Omnizoa
02-17-18, 09:21 AM
Trying Vegan Food has definitely resulted in my highest spit out ratio, but i've also found some delicious stuff.
Most of the vegan cheeses I've tried (and I've not tried many) have ranged from unremarkable to bad.
I just put my mostly vegan pizza into the oven. Which means all those little innocent yeast are going to die:( But what the hell, yeast makes pizza dough rise...and yeast makes beer good!Yeast is vegan, Isinglass is not.
I don't think anyone here can even imagine what Vegan Pizza is
you'd probably not even recognize it as pizza if you had it.
It looked like regular old pizza to me.
Miss Vicky
02-17-18, 11:18 AM
I've never eaten vegan pizza, but I used to have a vegetarian coworker who would occasionally eat it. She claimed it was delicious but the cheese looked like it was made from plastic.
I've never eaten vegan pizza, but I used to have a vegetarian coworker who would occasionally eat it. She claimed it was delicious but the cheese looked like it was made from plastic.
Makes you wonder wht goes into it, doesnt it. Just make your own and you'll be sure.
Back to bees:
Canadian Beekeepers are furious to find imported honey flooding their supermarket shelfs and it is cheap. So cheap the Canadian Honey Council has been urging the federal government to ramp up its efforts to inspect imported honey.
They would like to see the Canadian Food Inspection Agency invest in nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) testing, which can detect the sweetener’s composition and place of origin, and create a profile of domestic honey to compare imports against.
The plummeting value of Canadian honey — which dropped nearly $53 million last year — is putting the family farm in peril, a situation he says is being exacerbated by the flow of cheap, watered-down products coming into the country.
The Capilano Honey in the picture priced at $11kg is labelled product of Australia and GMO free Australia.
Canadian Beekeepers are suspicious. They don’t know how this honey could be GMO free or 100% Australian and only be priced $11kg.
I asked Capilano Ltd if this honey for sale in Gatineau, Quebec province, Canada was 100% Australian?
Is it organic?
Is it free from glyphosate and neonicotinoids?
What’s is GMO free Australia and have GMO Australia a website?
Merv Kickbush Export Manager Capilano Ltd refused to answer.
Omnizoa
02-17-18, 07:41 PM
Canadian Honey Council
https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_730/public/blogs_2014/11/dr._strangelove_-_the_war_room.png
I had vegan cheese that was made from coconut oil which was pretty good. Had a very mild taste but i liked it.
Coconut oil has a heap of uses. I use it as a leave in conditioner in my hair. Add raw cacao lip balm and I smell like a
http://www.hahndorfsweets.com.au/content/images/thumbs/0000125_coconut-rough-350g.jpeg
I had vegan pizza for the first time this past week.
It tasted alright.
If you intend to try vegan pizza I strongly suggest thoroughly baking it though, ideally after cleaning out your oven if you haven't used it in over 6 years cause I almost died in a grease fire.
I decided to give this a bump and have a civilised conversation because while out shopping the other day I bought a wallet/handbag that is 'Vegan Leather' and I thought of this thread. Are you Gummo? The only reason I ask is when I google 'vegan' his thread is after yours. Vegan for 12 years. That's great. I would be quite happy going vegan for good but my husband demands meat and I tell ya, when you're trying to recover from a protracted illness it's damn hard.
I'm not sure I would get enough protein at the moment if I went vegan.
Back to vegan leather - made from bamboo. Oh wow this bag feels so damn nice, even nicer than my bamboo underwear. And super goodlooking. It's actually a manbag, I think, although it was in the ladies' section. I think a man could use it anyway. Its a large wallet that doubles asa handbag if you want. I just loved the feel of it and that it was big enough to hold my mobile phone. As a general rule I havent been using handbags for years, just on special occasions (I have, however, started using my glovebox in the car as a box for my gloves. I needed a storage unit for my gloves so went back to basics.
I digress as my goldfish brain wants to do but I was pretty impressed. I'm still llooking around for a hemp wallet and clothes.
I just had part of my breakfast which stretches all day, and thought of this bread (Lol that was a typo but I'm leaving it there!). It deserves a daily bump until your return IMO. I have noticed in the short time I've been a mofo that you do seem to flit in like a busy little bee, and that's my first random observation of the day. I am noticing honeycomb everywhere I go at the moment. It's beautiful. I so miss the bees of my childhood, and sitting in my mum's garden or under my dad's lemon tree and humming along with them. I wasnt too fond of going to the beach and stepping on one accidentally though. Gee that hurts.
Back to veganism - do you like tibetan goji berries? I had a stash of it in the pantry from a xmas present Mr D gave me a few years ago and got it out this morning to have on my muesli. Wonderful stuff, and such a great superfood.
Well on my way to return to vegan eating, although I think I'm happier as lacto-vego or maybe -pescetarian until I get some weight on. Last time I went vegan for several months I craved eggs and cheese so bad it was like a kick in the guts every time I cooked Mr D eggs or looked at a cheese stall at the local farmers market. I almost fainted one day boiling some eggs for him to take to work.
Miso soup this morning for breakfast. I think soup is going to be my way for a bit because my stomach has shrunk so much. I;m really in need of some fast calories vegan style if you have some tips, Omni.
And talking about the bees would be great, too. Still noticing bees and more bees in advertising, tv etc. I see in the aldi catalogue for this saturday is a bee cushion. I think I'll get some for my bee humming chair in the back garden.
cat_sidhe
04-26-18, 01:17 PM
Dani8 try pea protein. But you'll fart like ****, mang... Just sayin'. :lol:
Dani8 try pea protein. But you'll fart like ****, mang... Just sayin'. :lol:
Well I do have colic at the moment so couldnt hurt, Cat.
cat_sidhe
04-26-18, 01:35 PM
Well I do have colic at the moment so couldnt hurt, Cat.
Then it's definitely worth a shot. It doesn't taste great so I'd add other green booster powders based on dried fruits and greens. That usually makes things palatable while adding vitamin c (among other vitamins) to the mix.
Rice, hemp, pea, pumpkin seed proteins...those are the ones I'd recommend as smoothies may be easier to digest for you right now.
Then it's definitely worth a shot. It doesn't taste great so I'd add other green booster powders based on dried fruits and greens. That usually makes things palatable while adding vitamin c (among other vitamins) to the mix.
Rice, hemp, pea, pumpkin seed proteins...those are the ones I'd recommend as smoothies may be easier to digest for you right now.
You know, I've only just got my routine sorted and that has taken 6 months (yikes) so I can be super vigilant about the opioids, so when it comes to actual food, I want something that I can graze on all day. The same as I am with film - for me mood is everything - so I'm really going with what my body is asking me for right now, which could be tomatoes and cheese, or slices of red apple with olives, or icecream and cocnut sticks. For something like you're describing I would need my friendly barista to make it up for me each morning. I'm running on fumes at this stage (OMG my heightened senses just picked upthat a neighbur a few doors away has just started pressing oranges. This is fun).
ETA: Anyway, I really appreciate you giving me these tips,both on the board and in PMs.
tTank You, Cat. How is your day going, or night, which ever comes first.
Oh by the way, the colic has settled.
thanks again. Breakfast today is a dutch chocolate whole protein breaky smoothie. Not bad at all, and that says a lot for someone who just cant eat a lot of chocolate.
Omnizoa
05-05-18, 08:08 AM
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I decided to give this a bump and have a civilised conversation because while out shopping the other day I bought a wallet/handbag that is 'Vegan Leather' and I thought of this thread. Are you Gummo?
I don't know what that is.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=44255&stc=1&d=1525514343
Vegan for 12 years. That's great. I would be quite happy going vegan for good but my husband demands meat and I tell ya, when you're trying to recover from a protracted illness it's damn hard.I hope that illness isn't cancer or heart disease.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=31892&stc=1&d=1498478437
I'm not sure I would get enough protein at the moment if I went vegan.
That's the oldest myth in the book. Literally. See for yourself:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=44256&stc=1&d=1525515372
I've been asked this since Kindergarten. By kindergarteners.
It's a sure sign to me how informed someone is on the subject when they point to protein instead of vitamin B12 as a possible concern for deficiency.
And rest assured, I'm well prepared for vitamin B12 arguments too.
I digress as my goldfish brain wants to do
Mythbusters actually debunked the Goldfish Memory myth. (https://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/goldfish-memory-minimyth)
Mythbusters also debunked the Plants Feel Pain myth. (http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/plants-have-feelings/)
do you like tibetan goji berries?
Never had them.
Last time I went vegan for several months I craved eggs and cheese so bad it was like a kick in the guts every time I cooked
The main food people crave after going vegan is cheese (https://www.forksoverknives.com/addictive-food-cheese-pizza/) and a good reason for that is because cheese (along with eggs) are jackhammered full of female hormones. It's evolutionarily advantageous to keep baby calves near their mother, so cow milk has acquired an addictive quality to keep babies hooked and coming back for more.
But since humans get in the way of this natural process, full grown adults end up wacked out on titty milk intended to feed babies (and even more so on eggs, which are frequently described as "cholesterol bombs").
I think soup is going to be my way for a bit because my stomach has shrunk so much. I;m really in need of some fast calories vegan style if you have some tips, Omni.
Veganism doesn't necessarily reduce your weight. Although there are animal products you can eat which contribute to weight gain, you can lose weight while eating animal products, you just need to burn more calories than you take in. This is why you see people on meat-only Ketogenic diets brag about debunking veganism as "healthy", because they lost weight eating only meat. Losing weight doesn't necessarily mean you're healthy, and even being slim and physically fit doesn't mean you're healthy either (you may look good on the outside, but your inside may be struggling or at serious risk of terminal illnesses). You can also be wildly unhealthy as a vegan. Veganism does not in and of itself make you healthy. It may be healthier, but if you shift from a diet consisting of meat, dairy, fruit, vegetables, and grains to just ketchup, you're gonna become very ill.
Anyway, calorie-rich vegan foods can include:
Nuts & Seeds:
Peanuts
Flaxseed
Chia Seeds
Legumes:
Refried Beans
Chickpeas
Lentils
Grains:
Whole Wheat Bread
Brown Rice
Granola
Oils are also high in calories, however they are considered among the unhealthiest things vegans regularly eat.
Thanks I guess.Not really sure why you brought up weight loss, Omni. It's the least of my problems. And you dont know what vegan leather is? I'm pretty sure I said it was 'leather' made of bamboo. Oh well, it was worth. a try.back to my tofu turkey.
I'll vhek those linke later but being a bit hypersensitive, looks like it;s taking the piss
Omnizoa
05-07-18, 09:17 PM
Not really sure why you brought up weight loss, Omni.
I didn't.
you dont know what vegan leather is?
I would think the definition for "gummo" I posted would make it expressly obvious what I'm referring to.
i dont know what a definition for gummo is.
thanks for your feedback. its very helful. i think you should take the opportunity to check out vegan leather. I'm very surprised such an expert on verganism hasnt taken the opportunity to find out about it so there ya go, matey, it came from me first. Dont say I never helped ya.
Zing I just had a burst of energy. Woooshka.Must be the aussie angus burger with the ole 'special sauce lettuce cheese'. Remember that ditty from way way way back last century? Two whole beef special sauce lettuce onions on a sesame seed bun. And if you said it under 60 seconds you got it for free. So many people got it in under 60 seconds they almost went bankrupt LOL I made that last bit up. Bear Grillis or whatever his name is, is currently on tv while I have my lunch break. He seems to think McDonalds isnt real food because in a nuclear holocaust it will survive so the cockroaches have something to eat. As a matter of fact, I think I just made that up. Bear can make something else up.
My dear man woman gender fluid whatever you are, I wish I had more time to get to know you better. I like you. Cheap and cheerful you are not. Please come back,ya hear!
Now Nigella is on tv. I dont think a vegan could get that lucious and goddess looking, do you? god she's so beautiful but I'm getting such a vibe of deep deep sadness. Do you think that relates to not being a vegan or the way her dreadful husband treated her?
BlueStar
05-09-18, 03:59 AM
I had vegan pizza a few times and really liked them the times I had the. (https://www.mapleholistics.com/blog/makeup-geek-review/)
Omnizoa
05-09-18, 12:27 PM
Are you Gummo?I don't know what that is.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=44255&stc=1&d=1525514343
you dont know what vegan leather is?I would think the definition for "gummo" I posted would make it expressly obvious what I'm referring to.i dont know what a definition for gummo is.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/b0/6b/64b06b1e6252a0c6413d7c82ccf8946e.gif
i think you should take the opportunity to check out vegan leather.
I know what vegan leather is.
I'm very surprised such an expert on verganism hasnt taken the opportunity to find out about it so there ya go, matey, it came from me first. Dont say I never helped ya.
I'm speechless.
[CENTER]
I'm speechless.
thats not like you. Maybe have a cup of tea and regroup::shrug:
I learned that Honey is not vegan because some people are mean to bees.
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this was a funny, informed post ,especially the food pyrmid line which i love so much but put your spare time to check out those websites, cap. honey is most certainly not regarded by vegans/extremist vegetarians as vegan.
There my cuppeth runneth overeth. Go forth and masticate.
Why is that guy so bellicose? Maybe the sign on his man cave says
Bee Li Cose Cottage. Piss Off.
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