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Stirchley
02-07-18, 02:58 PM
How the heck does anyone have the nerves of steel to follow PETA on Twitter & other sites? I just now blocked them from my Twitter account. It’s not that they don’t do a good job, but the videos they produce are horrifying. If I worked for them, I would not be able to sleep at night for nightmares about the animals. Kudos to all who financially support them, but I like my animal rights information delivered in a less graphic way.
My stance on PETA is generally that they have some very good points, and we're averting our eyes as a culture to too much of it...but they bundle it with a lot of genuinely insane ideas (and questionable methods) that are actually setting their cause back significantly.
Stirchley
02-07-18, 04:12 PM
Yoda, I agree. I’m a vegetarian & financial supporter of many animal rescue groups, etc., but I do think PETA are their own worst enemy. I stopped financially supporting them a long time ago. I wanted to reply to someone’s PETA tweet & had to scroll through a lot of the PETA tweets to find it. The videos were horrendous & now those images are in my mind forever.
My stance on PETA is generally that they have some very good points, and we're averting our eyes as a culture to too much of it...but they bundle it with a lot of genuinely insane ideas (and questionable methods) that are actually setting their cause back significantly.
PETA should run for president.
Ingrid Newkirk is completely and utterly insane.
Stirchley
02-07-18, 05:46 PM
Ingrid Newkirk is completely and utterly insane.
It’s wrong to dislike my fellow countrywoman & animal lover, but I do not care for her at all. She rather strikes me as a show pony, but maybe that’s what is needed.
Makes me sick that I saw all those images today. How anyone can hurt an animal is beyond me.
PETA is ridiculous. The saddest thing is I'm always seeing people I admire do ads for them. Eli Roth did one, for example. I love the dude but not sure what he was thinking.
It’s wrong to dislike my fellow countrywoman & animal lover, but I do not care for her at all. She rather strikes me as a show pony, but maybe that’s what is needed.
Makes me sick that I saw all those images today. How anyone can hurt an animal is beyond me.
She's a special one, tht's for sure. So are a lot of her 'disciples'. I'm sure she started off well but people get carried away with activism (not just animal welfare; I'm talking any kind of activism) that they lose sight.And then you have the type who simply thrive on causing as much trauma to others that they can to get their point across, especially little children who they think are a great resource to stop their parents using animal products. Can you imagine going to schools and handing out pamphlets containing the sort of images you saw this morning to kindergarten children? Blows my mind, quite frankly. Such respect for life, except human life.
There is so much on the net about the kind of people that post the kind of stuff you saw today, Stirchley. I know exactly what you're talking about. There are a heap of campaigns to try to stop the posting of graphic photos or videos but it's impossible to stop unfortunately. You just have to block the people who do it, but then it's too late. Even trying to find some articles for your thread I came across people saying people need to stop posting these kinds of photos and videos, and then would post them to prove their point. Hello!!!
I dont know what to suggest about what you saw today and how it impacted on you. Once you see it you cant unsee it. Just stay away from that feed but that's really not very helpful to minimise the impact it had on you; 100 more will just crop up. Most people in life are just completely tactless. And then you get the sociopathic type who feed off how much damage they can inflict.
Ingrid Newkirk is a 'media slut' - her words. She has completely lost sight of her own cause and is just obsessed with getting money out of celebrities for free publicity.
Stirchley
02-07-18, 06:28 PM
You actually can block people & companies, etc. on Twitter. It’s very easy. But I wanted to talk with someone about a certain issue that PETA was going bat**** about & I needed to get back in the PETA thread. Hence the trauma. Soon as I’m done talking to that person, it will be blocked. And it is blocked not only from my tweets, but I can never see PETA in anyone else’s tweets either. So it works well.
I financially support 6 rescue orgs. every month. Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah, e.g. These sanctuaries tend to dwell on the positive rather than the horror the animals have endured. Obviously if they had had a nice life they wouldn’t be in a rescue shelter. We don’t need to be clobbered over the head with it. Like I said, I used to financially support PETA, but I stopped. Their Twitter site is horrendous.
These sanctuaries tend to dwell on the positive rather than the horror the animals have endured.
Yes and that's my feelings on how they should go about it, not the rubbing your face in it approach. That just turns people away. Good on those groups and you for supporting that type of group
I was on a horror board years ago and one particular poster decided to start a thread called something like Special FX prosthetics for murder scenes in movies. They were photos of actual crime scenes, and really quite horrifying at that. When a bunch of us jumped on him and told him off for being so sneaky about it, not giving a warning blah blah blah he said we were alll a bunch of hypocrites for watching and enjoying extreme horror movies but had our heads in the sand about what happens in the real world. What an arse hat! It's not for him to decide what strangers on the net need to see and what they have seen in the real world or not. And that's the approach a lot of these clowns who post graphic images of animal cruelty are on about. They condescend to strangers on the net and take it upon themselves to decide to 'enlighten' and 'educate'. It's not educating if those people walk away and go and support some other organisation who has a degree of sensitivity and tact about their approach. It can cause psychological trauma for some people, and who knows - you might have had a little niece or nephew on your knee while scrolling through happy photos of rehabilitated animals on your feed then suddenly BOOM, right in your faces. And how about those videos that automatically play. OMG!
Stirchley
02-07-18, 07:04 PM
Yes, you’re right about those videos that automatically play. Something new, maybe? Watched a lot of them at Woodstock Farm Animal Sanctuary website today, which I also support. Adorable, but at PETA not so much.
I love the type who tell you how bad a photo or video is and how much it upset them to the point of shaking and crying, then post it to ask if anyone else feels the same way. Seriously???
The automatically running videos have been going for a while. FB needs to stop those - Arse clowns could be posting anything and as I said, they get their jollies out of how much it wrecks someone's day.
Omnizoa
02-13-18, 06:20 PM
How the heck does anyone have the nerves of steel to follow PETA on Twitter & other sites? I just now blocked them from my Twitter account. It’s not that they don’t do a good job,
They don't.
Kudos to all who financially support them,
Please don't financially support PETA.
My stance on PETA is generally that they have some very good points, and we're averting our eyes as a culture to too much of it...but they bundle it with a lot of genuinely insane ideas (and questionable methods) that are actually setting their cause back significantly.@Yoda (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=1), I agree. I’m a vegetarian
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How anyone can hurt an animal is beyond me.
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I wanted to reply to someone’s PETA tweet & had to scroll through a lot of the PETA tweets to find it. The videos were horrendous & now those images are in my mind forever.
Any of those images involve hens or dairy cows perchance?
Doramius
02-15-18, 09:34 PM
I'm not going to get deep into my views of animals. (FYI - I don't think animals are stupid. I'll eat a hamburger, rack of lamb, and I enjoy deer and elk hunting.) However, I don't believe in cruelty to animals. I have a beautiful 7 yr old Golden Retriever that my family adores and loves. We take him out to parks and out for walks all the time. The kids use him as a living fluffy pillow, and he enjoys it. It will be sad when we lose him, as he IS a member of the family. However, he is a dog and a pet. Nobody in our family treats him with disrespect, or in any harmful way. If he were being attacked, I would defend him. However, I don't treat him as a human.
I grew up on a farm, and I know about cattle slaughtering for food. I've seen my fair share of it. I know of many farms that have methods that are not as grotesque as shown in these PETA videos. And whenever PETA wants to show some of the most vile videos of cattle slaughtering, they mostly show footage from Jewish run slaughterhouses. Their religion REQUIRES a specific way of preparation that isn't very "quick and painless" as some would like or believe.
I feel badly run puppy mills should be closed down and the owners prosecuted. I also feel that people who abuse pets should be tossed in a jail. I also feel that people should arbitrarily take in pets when they have no ability to care for them. I do feel that animal cruelty awareness is important.
With all this said, I feel PETA is a detracting organization of their cause, and is run by a fanatic that is diluted into extremist behavior. Just because I don't approve of their methods or stance, doesn't mean I'm going to run out an punch some random animal in the face, or beat one senseless. However, it's also not going to prevent me from enjoying a hamburger, or bringing home several months of elk meat, either. If you want to be Vegan or Vegetarian, I don't care. When you force places to be Vegan or Vegetarian, or make them to be required to have a Vegan alternative, that's when I take issue. It doesn't upset me or make me want to force Vegan restaurants to have a meat option when one isn't provided. I just don't dine there. And if a specialty restaurant wants to add Vegetarian or meat items to their menu to draw in more customers.....Kudos to you.
My views may not be your views, and your views may not be my views, but if you force your view on me....I'll will be happy to shove my fist up your ass, pull out your head and beat it with the stick I also found up there.
LMAO. You seem very violent. I think I like you.
Doramius
02-16-18, 02:01 AM
Meh, I'm usually not the violent type, but if I have to...I am more than happy to serve someone's ass to them after a heavy tenderizing when warranted.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 08:37 AM
I'll eat a hamburger, rack of lamb, and I enjoy deer and elk hunting.) However, I don't believe in cruelty to animals.
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but if you force your view on me...
Weird how the people forcing their views on others always seem so quick to accuse others of "forcing their views on me".
Doramius
02-16-18, 11:08 AM
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Weird how the people forcing their views on others always seem so quick to accuse others of "forcing their views on me".I'm not understanding your point. I've merely stated my position, and haven't tried to convert someone to one side or another. So your quoted reply is confusing. Please explain.
Miss Vicky
02-16-18, 11:55 AM
When you force places to be Vegan or Vegetarian, or make them to be required to have a Vegan alternative, that's when I take issue.
When has this ever happened?
Seriously, I've never once heard of any place being forced into it.
Doramius
02-16-18, 04:18 PM
When has this ever happened?
Seriously, I've never once heard of any place being forced into it.I can be pretty selective hearing, too. But I know that there are a lot of things that happen that I don't hear of. I admit the world doesn't revolve around myself. But it's fun to watch the internet trolls focus their attention on one insignificant person...wouldn't you say?
If you're trying to make me feel bad about hunting, eating meat, or having a pet...it won't happen. I'm not interested in an argument; I'm just stating my feelings and am not telling others how they should feel about it. If you're an adult, you should be allowed to make up your own mind, state your own position, and not impose or be forced to changing ones mind. I don't agree with a lot of things PETA does, and I don't have to.
Buuut, if you want something specific:
While no legal suit was ever brought up, the Las Vegas Area 51's baseball stadium had been picketed in 2003 for not offering a vegan alternative to their concessions. They didn't have to offer anything, but felt they should have the option anyway and started offering items that were more vegan friendly. I'm glad they made the option, because I would recommend their Vegan Taco Salad, although quite overpriced. I guess that's something to be expected in a captivated audience.
She was asking for evidence of a claim you made. You are reading way too much into her post.
Your example isn't anywhere being forced to do it as you noted so obviously she was right to question your claim.
Miss Vicky
02-16-18, 04:34 PM
I can be pretty selective hearing, too. But I know that there are a lot of things that happen that I don't hear of. I admit the world doesn't revolve around myself. But it's fun to watch the internet trolls focus their attention on one insignificant person...wouldn't you say?
I don't have selective hearing, tyvm, and I'd advise you to keep the insults to yourself. I simply asked you a question.
If you're trying to make me feel bad about hunting, eating meat, or having a pet...it won't happen. I'm not interested in an argument; I'm just stating my feelings and am not telling others how they should feel about it. If you're an adult, you should be allowed to make up your own mind, state your own position, and not impose or be forced to changing ones mind. I don't agree with a lot of things PETA does, and I don't have to.
Once again, I simply asked you a question. One which you have failed to answer. Also, way to jump to conclusions. You know that thing they say about what happens when you assume? Yeah.
I don't hunt because I take no pleasure in killing animals and because I don't like the taste of game meats. I'm also not a fan of guns and am not exactly the outdoors type. But I do eat meat - every day and at almost every meal. Want to make me happy? Put a nice medium-rare slab of steak in front of me. Oh and I have pets. I do absolutely consider them my family but I have no illusions about the fact that I own them.
Buuut, if you want something specific:
While no legal suit was ever brought up, the Las Vegas Area 51's baseball stadium had been picketed in 2003 for not offering a vegan alternative to their concessions. They didn't have to offer anything, but felt they should have the option anyway and started offering items that were more vegan friendly.
I wouldn't say that qualifies as force. Unless the picketing resulted in some kind of law stating that such places must offer vegan alternatives, it was still a choice.
But it's fun to watch the internet trolls focus their attention on one insignificant person...wouldn't you say?
Miss Vicky is not a troll.
I was also curious when that ever happened. I cant see a couple of weekend vegans being successful forcing any restauranteur to provide for vegans. Not even that belligerent, potty mouth wanker extraordinaire Gordon Ramsay was hauled to court for telling weekend vegetarians his artichoke soup was made with chicken stock because it effing tastes better.
LOL if that actually happened I wish I had been there.
If I owned a restaurant and received a court or any other order to provide for vegans I'd say OK, you can have iceberg lettuce with salt and pepper.
Can you imagine going to a sporting ground and ordering vegan food then actually expecting it to be prepped in it's own vegan kitchen? Vegans should just stay home and make their own tofu turkey, then they know what they're getting, and they wont be annoying everyone else with their trendy hipster preaching.
Easy.
The only places i can see being forced into having vegetarian/vegan options are places like schools that have to cater to everyone. Although in that case the parents may even have to give the kids lunches to take to school, not sure.
When i was in primary school veganism wasn't something i had even heard of. The way our primary school did lunch was three different lunch trays of different colours you could pick from, the red one was always vegetarian (doubt vegan though) you could also have sandwiches but those often had meat in them. The only vegetarian i remember used to have pack lunches all the time though. Side note: Miss Vicky may remember him as the Sri Lankan who played the bagpipes :D. In secondary school i don't think i stayed in school for lunch a single time so i'm not sure what happened there, that's when i first became aware of veganism but i imagine the vegans would have preferred to go out for lunch since they had that option.
Stirchley
02-16-18, 06:27 PM
Why are we beating up vegans? I admire them, especially those true vegans who don’t wear animal products. I could never be a vegan (too complicated for me), but I respect their POV. I might be missing something here. Maybe some of them are overly-aggressive in their stance?
Why are we beating up vegans?
Nobody is?
For the record i think this quote from Omni in the other thread is true at least of myself.
but I'm willing to bet that it's not that they inform you of their views which gets under your skin, but that their views implicitly challenge how your view yourself.
I was really hostile towards Veganism at first and i noticed (and i notice this from loads of others) that people hold Vegans to a higher standard than almost anyone else, you regularly see people going for "gotcha" lines in discussions with Vegans as if them not being perfect humans means their life choice is severely flawed. It's kind of incredible and i definitely think it spawns from people whether consciously or not questioning their own lifestyle whenever they are forced to think about Veganism.
It was only when a close friend of mine became Vegan that i started to truly think about my attitude towards it.
The only places i can see being forced into having vegetarian/vegan options are places like schools that have to cater to everyone.
I dont even know if kids are catered for at all in schools here (apart from boarders who dont get a choice other than - back when I was boarding - diet or not diet. Diet just meant a leaf of lettuce and a slice of tomato instead of vegetables cooked to buggery, hold the stew swimming in a bowl of oil.
The only rule that I know of is no parent is allowed to send their kid to school with peanuts. Seriously, I cannot recall peanut allergies ever being discussed when I was a kid. I wonder what happened.
Nobody is?
For the record i think this quote from Omni in the other thread is true at least of myself.
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It's not true at all. He was cruising to throw out some bait and failed. I think he went elsewhere looking for aggro entertainment.
It's not true at all. He was cruising to throw out some bait and failed. I think he went elsewhere looking for aggro entertainment.
Wasn't saying it was true of you, was saying it's largely true of a lot of people from my experience.
I dont even know if kids are catered for at all in schools here (apart from boarders who dont get a choice other than - back when I was boarding - diet or not diet. Diet just meant a leaf of lettuce and a slice of tomato instead of vegetables cooked to buggery, hold the stew swimming in a bowl of oil.
The only rule that I know of is no parent is allowed to send their kid to school with peanuts. Seriously, I cannot recall peanut allergies ever being discussed when I was a kid. I wonder what happened.
In Primary School here you got offered a free lunch if both your parents weren't working for some reason. So in that case i guess they had to offer a vegetarian one hence the red tray, as i said i hadn't even heard of Veganism then (1998-2005), was just a kid then of course though.
Never heard that about peanuts, understandable though.
Stirchley
02-16-18, 07:06 PM
I cannot recall peanut allergies ever being discussed when I was a kid. I wonder what happened.
https://snacksafely.com/2018/01/netflixs-rotten-documentary-to-feature-episode-dedicated-to-food-allergy/
Don’t know if you can stream this terrific series in Oz, but this episode explains everything. IIRC, over-use of antibiotics is to blame. Partially? Fully? Can’t remember.
Growing up in England, I never knew any child with food allergies or asthma. Or a child with ADD or similar.
Wasn't saying it was true of you, was saying it's largely true of a lot of people from my experience.
It's OK I didnt think you were.
I have friends who are vegan, vegetarian, ovo lacto vegetarian, pescatarian etc etc and they never get preachy, nor do I throw them a cow or pig bone when they come for dinner just to see them get pissed off. I have gone through vegan periods myself, first when I was involved with ALF at Uni and then over the years experimenting with my diet and my cooking, but supporting extremists like Peta or ALF is something I will not touch with a barge pole, especially Peta or anyone who endorses them. And I have never seen a vegan demanding pharmaceuticals not tested on animals so there you go. I'll ask my pharmacists when I see them this morning and I bet the answer is no. Even some of Ingrid's hypocritical goons have admitted to using insulin and other pharmaceuticals tested on animals. I guess it's OK if they're needing to save their lives, despite the boss' stance, and I do actually believe she would die for her cause but I'm very doubtful of her tiny army and their ethical leanings.
It's only online I have ever seen weekend vegans and vegan bashers going for it. I've never seen it in a restaurant, at home, or just out and about. I'm sure it happens but I just havent experienced it. I would never eat processed vegetarian or vegan meals because of the amount of crap that goes into them, including and especially palm oil, but I buy very little processed food anyway 1. because most of it contains hidden palm oil and 2 I just prefer to make my own from scratch although I draw the line at milling my own grains simply because I'm lazy, and 3 processed food tastes horrible.
I have a niece and nephew on the palm oil campaign (and before anyone jumps on me for forcing them, they actually got me into it) but we will never ever support those media whores at Peta. I'm quite happy for celebrities to toss money at them and watch it go up in smoke, and sit back while sweet Ingrid attracts psychopaths to her next disgusting, sensationalised campaigns
I have friends who are vegan, vegetarian, ovo lacto vegetarian, pescatarian etc etc and they never get preachy,
Think the preach vegetarian/vegan is largely a boogeyman. They definitely exist (just like boogeymen) but they are rare for the most part and it's usually more indicative of an obnoxious person than anything to do with a lifestyle. The only one i ever met that i had to spend an extended amount of time with was a close friend of an ex. She was a vegetarian and kept saying regularly in conversation that meat is murder when it wasn't at all relevant because people weren't talking about meat or ordering meat or whatever. It got to the point that my vegan friend kind of lost it and said "butter is murder" :laugh: He was obviously exaggerating and it was obviously to point out that she's not morally perfect even dietarily for not eating meat. He's absolutely not a preacher, i swear i didn't know he was a Vegan until a few days after he became one and the only reason i found out was because i suggested going out for pizza. He has strong views on it all but will only go into it if he's asked questions on it. I do think for the most part the preachy vegetarian/vegan is a rare creature particularly since it has passed trendy, most people realize the majority of the population don't agree with them or don't care and they just focus on their own life. From my experience at least.
I'd also like to point out just in case you missed it that Omni is as against PETA as you. I'm guessing you may be aware of that and that contributed to you not realizing Omni is a Vegan at first.
https://snacksafely.com/2018/01/netflixs-rotten-documentary-to-feature-episode-dedicated-to-food-allergy/
Don’t know if you can stream this terrific series in Oz, but this episode explains everything. IIRC, over-use of antibiotics is to blame. Partially? Fully? Can’t remember.
Growing up in England, I never knew any child with food allergies or asthma. Or a child with ADD or similar.
Thank you. The first I knew of peanut allergy was a dozen or so years ago when my girlfriend accused the trolley lady of trying to kill her 2 kids by giving them dumplings with peanuts in them at Yum Cha. Trying to calm her down I said the spring rolls she put infront of them were probably deep fried in peanut oil. The only reaction the kids had was toi display barbaric table manners.
Back when I was at school? No such thing as all these different allergies, gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance etc. but I would not be the least bit surprised if antibiotics and being 'forced' to use hand sanitiser at every turn is the cause of it, plus parents who wrap their kids in cotton wool.
He's absolutely not a preacher, i swear i didn't know he was a Vegan until a few days after he became one and the only reason i found out was because i suggested going out for pizza.
Yep the same with muslims, jews, Adventists, even alcoholics etc. I've never eaten with one and had them bring it up. They've only discussed it when asked.
I know he's not a peta supporter.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 07:49 PM
If you're an adult, you should be allowed to make up your own mind, state your own position, and not impose or be forced to changing ones mind.
No one can force you to change your mind, your beliefs are subordinate to your brain's ability to reason and extrapolate truth from experiences.
What your asking for is for people not to try and persuade you, to appeal to your reason. Such as if I were to point out the extreme irony that you're complaining about vegans imposing themselves on you, while you impose yourself on non-human animals. It's sufficiently hypocritical as-is, but this phantom threat you're describing doesn't even exist.
Vegans should just stay home and make their own tofu turkey, then they know what they're getting, and they wont be annoying everyone else with their trendy hipster preaching.Can I ever take you in context?
I could never be a vegan (too complicated for me),I never understood how not buying something is complicated.
pescatarianPescetarians are not vegetarians.
I have a niece and nephew on the palm oil campaign
Why do you care so much about palm oil?
She was a vegetarian and kept saying regularly in conversation that meat is murder when it wasn't at all relevant because people weren't talking about meat or ordering meat or whatever. It got to the point that my vegan friend kind of lost it and said "butter is murder" :laugh: He was obviously exaggerating
I don't think he was, I think he was just being reticent.
I don't think he was, I think he was just being reticent.
Is butter murder? There's farms that just focus on dairy, right? Although i suppose that's not a thing that will be specified on a label when you buy milk or whatever so it could be from a slaughterhouse cow, fair enough.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 08:10 PM
Is butter murder? There's farms that just focus on dairy, right? Although i suppose that's not a thing that will be specified on a label when you buy milk or whatever so it could be from a slaughterhouse cow, fair enough.
Predominately, dairy cows are sent to slaughter after they've outlived their usefulness as milk sources, and to get the maximum milk from them, cows are artificially inseminated to kickstart their reproductive cycle which results in calves which are slaughtered for the veal industry.
Predominately, dairy cows are sent to slaughter after they've outlived their usefulness as milk sources, and to get the maximum milk from them, cows are artificially inseminated to kickstart their reproductive cycle which results in calves which are slaughtered for the veal industry.
What is it that makes people decide something should be slaughtered as a baby for Veal and allow them to live to an adult for Beef?
Edit: Sorry, this is worded horribly. I was asking how butchers determine this?
Why do you care so much about palm oil?
I thought as much. How about you use some of that hostility trying to create wars with people you dont know on a movie forum calling them morons, hypocrites ad nauseum, lecturing on your new found veganism, trying to shift blame for some conflict you got into with non existent friends of mine from imdb and, educate yourself about what harvesting of palm oil is doing. There's your challenge for the weekend. Might keep you calmly entertained.
Gong hei fat choy 👍
to camo, Cows are permanently pregnant to remain lactating and the baby cows are sent back for dairy production and the baby bulls are sent off as vealers.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 08:31 PM
What is it that makes people decide something should be slaughtered as a baby for Veal and allow them to live to an adult for Beef?
Edit: Sorry, this is worded horribly. I was asking how butchers determine this?
That's a good question. I suspect it varies between companies. The location where cattle is mass produced is likely different from the dairy sector where new cows are a profitable by-product.
You're probably talking about upwards of four separate locations cows end up in depending on what kind of cow they are and where they originate from.
Miss Vicky
02-16-18, 08:32 PM
What is it that makes people decide something should be slaughtered as a baby for Veal and allow them to live to an adult for Beef?
Edit: Sorry, this is worded horribly. I was asking how butchers determine this?
Generally it's determined by sex. Male calves are more commonly used for veal, since they can't produce milk and fewer males are needed for breeding purposes.
I thought as much. How about you use some of that hostility trying to create wars with people you dont know on a movie forum calling them morons, hypocrites ad nauseum, lecturing on your new found veganism, trying to shift blame for some conflict you got into with non existent friends of mine from imdb and, educate yourself about what harvesting of palm oil is doing. There's your challenge for the weekend. Might keep you calmly entertained.
Think both of you started off on a disagreement and now you're both digging your heels in, JMO. Dani has conceded a tonne from talking to me calmly about this, think she has been very fair and Omni is being mischaracterized as someone that forces you to listen to him. I've had loads of problems with him in the past but i think he just feels strongly about his views and is going to mention them if something relevant to them are brought up. Or if he creates a thread to talk about it like he did, that's no different from any of us creating a thread about our beliefs his is just alot more unpopular.
to camo, Cows are permanently pregnant to remain lactating and the baby cows are sent back for dairy production and the baby bulls are sent off as vealers.
Thanks!
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 08:39 PM
I thought as much.
You thought I'd ask you why you put so much emphasis on palm oil?
How about you use some of that hostility
I've been pretty chill throughout this whole thread actually.
trying to create wars with people you dont know on a movie forum calling them morons, hypocrites ad nauseum, lecturing on your new found veganism,
It's nothing new.
trying to shift blame for some conflict you got into with non existent friends of mine from imdb
I have a feeling you're not going to answer my question about palm oil.
and, educate yourself about what harvesting of palm oil is doing.
I know what it's doing. OH, is that why you say it's "newfound veganism"? You think I'm some hotshot upstart with a bone to pick? I've simply asked why you care.
Stirchley
02-16-18, 08:42 PM
I never understood how not buying something is complicated.
Being a vegan is hardly as simple as “not buying something”, which statement makes no sense at all. Vegans must find substitutes for all animal products in their diet as well as their apparel. That can’t be easy. Depending on where one lives, not every store sells vegan products. Then they have to find a substitute for wool & leather to name 2 animal products they must avoid wearing.
Pescetarians are not vegetarians.
Untrue. I’m a pescatarian, which is a vegetarian who eats fish.
Predominately, dairy cows are sent to slaughter after they've outlived their usefulness as milk sources, and to get the maximum milk from them, cows are artificially inseminated to kickstart their reproductive cycle which results in calves which are slaughtered for the veal industry.
Some American farmers to make ends meet these days are selling dairy cows for their beef. Only male calves are used for veal.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 08:44 PM
Omni is being mischaracterized as someone that forces you to listen to him. I've had loads of problems with him in the past but i think he just feels strongly about his views and is going to mention them if something relevant to them are brought up.
I don't mention even half the contentious stuff I think, it's just not worth bringing up. Some conversations get you nothing but burnt bridges and bruised egos.
My mum was a Pescatarian before she was a Vegetarian. She definitely never thought of herself as a Vegetarian when she was the former.
Think we all agree that this all means that Broccoli is the best food.
Stirchley
02-16-18, 08:51 PM
Male calves are more commonly used for veal, since they can't produce milk and fewer males are needed for breeding purposes.
Barbarism. Chained in tight spaces so they can’t move. This way they stay tender & not musclebound.
Well, at least I thought the thread started out pretty funny. :)
Stirchley
02-16-18, 08:56 PM
In what way was my OP “pretty funny”?
Please everyone send me your top ten foods! For the Countdown!
Or don't, i dunno :shrug:
Barbarism. Chained in tight spaces so they can’t move. This way they stay tender & not musclebound.
Even worse, true vealers are aborted foetuses.
In what way was my OP “pretty funny”?
This part cracked me up:
If I worked for them, I would not be able to sleep at night for nightmares
Stirchley
02-16-18, 09:03 PM
Even worse, true vealers are aborted foetuses.
Cannot be sold legally in America.
I want to correct a misstatement I made: veal is not predominantly sold from male calves. Female calves that are not needed for the dairy industry can be sold as veal also.
So glad I am no part of any of this.
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 09:07 PM
Being a vegan is hardly as simple as “not buying something”, which statement makes no sense at all.
Okay, here I made a graphical tutorial on how to go vegan, maybe this will help:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=41840&stc=1&d=1518828689
Vegans must find substitutes for all animal products in their diet
No they don't.
Depending on where one lives, not every store sells vegan products.
I've literally never even heard of a super market that does not sell vegan food.
Then they have to find a substitute for wool
Cotton is cheaper.
& leather
Synthetic is cheaper.
Untrue. I’m a pescatarian, which is a vegetarian who eats fish.
Meat is flesh, fish have flesh, eating fish is eating meat. Not vegetarian.
Stirchley
02-16-18, 09:22 PM
I've literally never even heard of a super market that does not sell vegan food.
There must be hundreds of thousands of people who don’t live anywhere near a supermarket nor have the means of traveling to one. Not to mention the fact that vegan substitutes are not inexpensive.
Cotton is cheaper.
Never heard of a cotton winter coat.
Synthetic is cheaper.
Not necessarily.
Meat is flesh, fish have flesh, eating fish is eating meat. Not vegetarian.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary dates the origin of the term pescatarian to 1993 and defines it as: "one whose diet includes fish but no other meat".
Omnizoa
02-16-18, 09:36 PM
There must be hundreds of thousands of people who don’t live anywhere near a supermarket nor have the means of traveling to one. Not to mention the fact that vegan substitutes are not inexpensive.
So don't buy vegan substitutes.
Never heard of a cotton winter coat.
Lemme check my coats real quick...
First one is 100% polyester.
Second one is 100% polyester.
Third one is 100% polyester.
Not necessarily.
It necessarily would be if we stopped subsidizing animal agriculture.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary dates the origin of the term pescatarian to 1993 and defines it as: "one whose diet includes fish but no other meat".
Fish is meat confirmed. Not vegetarian.
Well, at least I thought the thread started out pretty funny. :)
I found two!!
How many are there hidden within these halls?!
I was going to put one in here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=53033). Should I?
Rofl yes!!
Great Easter egg idea, edit random old posts for specific comments to find!!
Doramius
02-17-18, 05:52 AM
I don't have selective hearing, tyvm, and I'd advise you to keep the insults to yourself. I simply asked you a question.
Once again, I simply asked you a question. One which you have failed to answer. Also, way to jump to conclusions. You know that thing they say about what happens when you assume? Yeah.
I don't hunt because I take no pleasure in killing animals and because I don't like the taste of game meats. I'm also not a fan of guns and am not exactly the outdoors type. But I do eat meat - every day and at almost every meal. Want to make me happy? Put a nice medium-rare slab of steak in front of me. Oh and I have pets. I do absolutely consider them my family but I have no illusions about the fact that I own them.
I wouldn't say that qualifies as force. Unless the picketing resulted in some kind of law stating that such places must offer vegan alternatives, it was still a choice.No insult was brought. If you're taking it that way, I feel as if you're looking for something or fight that is not there. Please refrain from defensive buildup, because open doors allow for better communication, than walls.
What was being explained is that I too don't hear EVERYTHING that goes on. I am just as ill informed about a great many things as others are. If you truly would like to know answers, you might want to try your own research rather than rely on someone who doesn't care whether someone is a Vegan, Pescatarian, Episcopalian, or an Octogenarian.
I didn't fail to answer your question. You chose not to accept the answer. There have been a great number of businesses that have been coerced and extorted by activists. This last year, a butcher in Berkeley, CA was bullied to place an Animal Rights sign in front of his store. And not every act of coercion requires laws to be enacted in one way or another.
I'm not going to sit and name off every inappropriate protest that pops up. Just the same as my wife doesn't have to defend why she thinks the new Wonder Woman is better than the old Wonder Woman (Linda Carter is still the hottest Wonder Woman Ever). We agree to disagree, and no justification is required. If she wants to know more about why Linda Carter was so awesome (since she didn't need any CGI and would try to do her own stunts when safely possible), she'll do her own research. And if I want to check out Gal Gadot, I'm grown up enough to google her, just like millions of other men. (Sorry for the tangent, but my wife made me watch the new Wonder Woman movie while I am typing this. And while I like the movie, I still feel Linda Carter was better).
I didn't make assumptions. You picking my post apart specifically, rather than overtly as part of the topic, that is indication that you're taking my personal choices as some opportunity to shed some light to my 'woeful' actions or interpreted hypocrisy. If this is not your intention, feel free to just state your thoughts about the topic generally, rather than directly pick apart some random person's post. Allow others to reflect on your view without them feeling like you drew an attack on them. I don't appreciate direct assault on the context of what I mean. You don't have to like what I say, and if I feel like explaining myself further, I will choose to do it when I want, the way I want.
If you're just trying to win an argument with me, I'll treat it the same way I do with my wife. You Win. The argument is not that important to me. I already stated my stance on the subject, because I can and did.
Doramius
02-17-18, 06:08 AM
The only places i can see being forced into having vegetarian/vegan options are places like schools that have to cater to everyone. Although in that case the parents may even have to give the kids lunches to take to school, not sure.
Public schools are a civil governed and regulated institution provided to the public and are required to provide an alternative meal. Private schools might not have this requirement unless local governments say otherwise. It is not federally required the same way that public schools are. Even the military is required to provide alternative diets. This just makes sense and is appropriate. It's not so much that they cater to everyone, it's that they try to accommodate various diets as long as they meet specific health requirements.
Side tangent: I feel that public schools should provide free meals with a set minimum nutritional value to provide appropriate calories and vitamins equal to at least half of a days requirements. However, this is for a whole other thread/topic, rather than in this thread.
Omnizoa
02-17-18, 09:27 AM
Public schools are a civil governed and regulated institution provided to the public and are required to provide an alternative meal.
****in' news to me.
What was being explained is that I too don't hear EVERYTHING that goes on. I am just as ill informed about a great many things as others are. If you truly would like to know answers, you might want to try your own research rather than rely on someone who doesn't care whether someone is a Vegan, Pescatarian, Episcopalian, or an Octogenarian.
This would be a fine thing to say if she had randomly accosted you and demanded you prove something arbitrarily, but she didn't. You specifically said a thing had happened, so it's only natural that she ask you what you're talking about. It's not her job to go and substantiate the claim for you.
FWIW, I read your post as defensive/hostile as well. Perhaps it's all a simple misunderstanding, but I think it's an understandable misunderstanding, if so.
Anyway, let's all just take each other at face value and say no offense was meant, yeah? :)
Miss Vicky
02-17-18, 11:07 AM
I didn't fail to answer your question. You chose not to accept the answer.
I chose not to accept your answer because picketing and protesting are not force, therefore you didn't actually answer the question. Unless one of the picketers held a gun to someone's head to get vegan alternatives added to the menu or to get that butcher to put up a sign, then no force occurred. Lawsuits, court orders, and changes in the laws, on the other hand, are force and by your own admission none of that happened in the examples you have given.
In any case, I wasn't trying to argue with you. I was asking for clarification. Which, in a way, I've gotten - which is to say that your claim is essentially baseless.
But whatever, carry on.
Citizen Rules
02-17-18, 02:12 PM
It seemed to me Doramius wanted to state his strong opinion on a subject, 'dishing it out'...But when presented with a different view point, he instantly started claiming the respondents were 'trolls'.
This is a discussion board, not a blog. If you dish out your opinion, you need to be able to take a little dishing back.
Citizen Rules
02-17-18, 03:05 PM
NOTE: I just edited my above post, when I originally typed OP I meant Doramius I did not mean @Stirchley (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=97322). Sorry! if that was confusing.
There have been a great number of businesses that have been coerced and extorted by activists.
So did the activists eat there? I think they should be forced to when they resort to bullying. No way would I be eating a vegan meal in any sort of establishment where activists had bullied a restaurateur into providing vegan alternatives. I can just imagine it - tofu burger made out of hotdog. Oh never mind, hotdog isnt food, let alone meat. As you were.
Stirchley
02-19-18, 06:14 PM
First one is 100% polyester.
Second one is 100% polyester.
Third one is 100% polyester.
You’re the one who mentioned cotton.
Fish is meat confirmed. Not vegetarian.
Confirmed by whom?
Stirchley
02-19-18, 06:18 PM
Please refrain from defensive buildup, because open doors allow for better communication, than walls.
LOL. Thank you doctor.
I am just as ill informed about a great many things as others are.
Yeah, I can see that.
Omnizoa
02-20-18, 08:03 AM
You’re the one who mentioned cotton.
You're the one who mentioned winter coats.
Confirmed by whom?
I've refuted every one of your contrived excuses for why veganism is "too complicated", quit stalling.
Stirchley
02-21-18, 06:14 PM
I've refuted every one of your contrived excuses for why veganism is "too complicated", quit stalling.
I never said “Veganism is too complicated”. I said that being vegan is too complicated for me. Huge difference. You’re not one of those people who gets upset by differing POVs, are you?
Omnizoa
02-24-18, 11:43 AM
I never said “Veganism is too complicated”. I said that being vegan is too complicated for me.
And I've addressed your excuses. What's your excuse now?
Should boob feb babies be regarded vegan?
I watched a movie about an adopted baby that chewed off it's new mum's bewb. I dont think he was a vegan card carrier but possibly on the FBI terror watchlist. Really turned me off tofu.
How the heck does anyone have the nerves of steel to follow PETA on Twitter & other sites? I just now blocked them from my Twitter account. It’s not that they don’t do a good job, but the videos they produce are horrifying. If I worked for them, I would not be able to sleep at night for nightmares about the animals. Kudos to all who financially support them, but I like my animal rights information delivered in a less graphic way.
I posted a photograph of a model from the art deco period on facebook. It was immediately removed so I sent a message asking why a beautiful vintage photo was tagged as in breach of community guidelines yet fb allows gratuitous, graphic and highly offensive videos of animal torture. As soon as I have a response Stirch, and I'm not holding my breath, I shall post for you.:up:
Omnizoa
02-24-18, 08:02 PM
Should boob feb babies be regarded vegan?
Is the baby subordinating a grown woman to drink it's breastmilk?
yes.
hell, i've tried to nurse a baby just to shut one up. OMG can they scream. I mean the mothers. They don't like it much when you pick up their kids from the highchair.
:D
Stirchley
02-26-18, 01:58 PM
And I've addressed your excuses. What's your excuse now?
What are you babbling about now?
cat_sidhe
02-26-18, 02:20 PM
Ok, did some research to see if by some fluke fish are classified as vegetables, and they aren't. People who eat mostly vegetarian diets but also consume fish no matter how occasionally are called either pesca(e)tarians or pesco-vegetarians.
Ok, did some research to see if by some fluke fish are classified as vegetables, and they aren't. People who eat mostly vegetarian diets but also consume fish no matter how occasionally are called either pesca(e)tarians or pesco-vegetarians.
fluke fish are the determining body to classify vegetables?
http://www.striperspace.com/simages/fluke3_560.jpg
:D:D:D:D
cat_sidhe
02-26-18, 02:39 PM
fluke fish are the determining body to classify vegetables?
http://www.striperspace.com/simages/fluke3_560.jpg
:D:D:D:D
Tell me about it. You should get a whiff of their campaign trail. :eek:
I guess I'm a regular PETA?! Pain En The Arse? OMG ok I'm done with this. i'm so ashamed of myself, floundering here for this tripe.
Saying you're a vegetarian because you only eat one kind of meat is like saying you're a virgin because you only have sex with one person.
Weeellll.... Or "one kind" of sex if you want to make a fair comparison.
Btw, Yoda, I have a weird thing for foam and latex puppets. Just FYI before this convo delves any deeper.
Kidding. Mostly.
cat_sidhe
02-26-18, 03:02 PM
I guess I'm a regular PETA?! Pain En The Arse? OMG ok I'm done with this. i'm so ashamed of myself, floundering here for this tripe.
YOU, sir, shall be rewarded for that pun. Let minnow what form this reward should take?
Stirchley
02-26-18, 05:47 PM
YOU, sir, shall be rewarded for that pun. Let minnow what form this reward should take?
Will you two please stop carping & stay on topic.
LESS THAN THREE
LESS THAN THREE
LESS THAN THREE
!!!!!!1!!!
:D
cat_sidhe
02-26-18, 05:50 PM
YOU, sir, shall be rewarded for that pun. Let minnow what form this reward should take?
Will you two please stop carping & stay on topic.
Indeed. It's neither the time nor the plaice to get punny.
Stirchley
02-26-18, 06:17 PM
Indeed. It's neither the time nor the plaice to get punny.
Someone is floundering.
cat_sidhe
02-26-18, 06:21 PM
Indeed. It's neither the time nor the plaice to get punny.
Someone is floundering.
Pollocks.
Stirchley
02-26-18, 06:32 PM
Pollocks.
Don’t you get crabby with me missy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkR0Fon4ZH8
What is with the muscle flexing, chest inflating, wanker vego sub groups some vegos go on with in order to feel not just a little bit but the most virtuous?
Vegans think they're at the top of the pile.
Then comes lacto ovo vego. The vegan you can be while not being a vegan.
The first of the losers - pescatarians. Definitely the claytons vego who dare not give up the sea kitteh for Ingrid Newkook, their fearless tofu crunching leader.
And so shiny it glitters - the rawtarians. (I tried this for a while. I didnt like my pedestal so I ate a big steak)
Best of all, the noble of the noblest - vegans who went all the way to that poor little third world country they wouldnt have given a penny to any other time in order to bring back rarefied air so their brother and sister wankatarians could breathe freely, not eat, and save the ants from being accidentally stepped on. Oh no wait...those clowns died for their efforts, and potentially wasted resources while endangering humans. Good job.
Disclaimer, no human mofos were harmed in the making of this diatribe.
Stirchley
02-26-18, 09:03 PM
The first of the losers - pescatarians.
LOL. That would be me.
Stirchley
02-26-18, 09:05 PM
Had to laugh on Sunday morning in Dunkin. Lady comes in looking for vegan donuts for a friend. In Dunkin? Good luck with that. She finally made a small selection & then got very discombobulated when I told her vegans don’t eat sugar. She bought them anyway.
Had to laugh on Sunday morning in Dunkin. Lady comes in looking for vegan donuts for a friend. In Dunkin? Good luck with that. She finally made a small selection & then got very discombobulated when I told her vegans don’t eat sugar. She bought them anyway.
I thought it would be more to do with pig lard used in the batter? (just off the top of my head. I dont know what goes into a donut recipe)
cat_sidhe
02-27-18, 05:48 AM
Depends on the sugar. Processed white and cheap brown sugars are filtered with bone char. Organic isn't so that's ok for vegans.
This thread reminds me of the Jim Gaffigan joke about being a vegetarian. "Im a vegetarian. But I'm not a strict vegetarian. I do eat beef and pork. And chicken. But not fish 'cause that's disgusting! "
When i was 15 or something i was into Come Dine With Me an embarrassing amount, i swear i binged it on 4OD like a Netflix show :laugh: For those who don't know it's a crappy British (there's also other versions) daytime show where groups of four or five people each host a dinner party one night and the others score it, at the end of the week a winner is declared.
Anyway, there was a contestant on that show who didn't eat cute animals. So she didn't eat Lamb or Rabbit, but Pigs, Cows and Chickens were fine since she had declared them uncute. I dunno that really infuriated me at the time, it's hypocritical on my end as a meat eater who eats all of those animals because even though it's in the dumbest and most twisted way imaginable she is cutting down on her meat consumption. Still thought that was an insane lifestyle choice and i've always wondered if it was just her or if it's a genuine thing.
HashtagBrownies
02-27-18, 10:04 AM
When i was 15 or something i was into Come Dine With Me an embarrassing amount, i swear i binged it on 4OD like a Netflix show :laugh:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/b86688e8af35c924fa058614f3ea7374/tenor.gif?itemid=5415306
It was great. The sausage trifle episode was a tv classic!
cat_sidhe
02-27-18, 02:14 PM
When i was 15 or something i was into Come Dine With Me an embarrassing amount, i swear i binged it on 4OD like a Netflix show :laugh:
Still binge on it when I feel like watching people getting twatty over dinner :lol:
I have no shame. :D
Still binge on it when I feel like watching people getting twatty over dinner :lol:
I have no shame. :D
I've not watched it in ages but i know i'd still love it. It's undeniably garbage tv, so addictive though haha. Did you ever see the Comedians one with that Angelos guy? The english comedian who pretends he's a greek guy for some reason. I watched that episode like eight times :laugh:
cat_sidhe
02-27-18, 02:22 PM
I've not watched it in ages but i know i'd still love it. It's undeniably garbage tv, so addictive though haha. Did you ever see the Comedians one with that Angelos guy? The english comedian who pretends he's a greek guy for some reason. I watched that episode like eight times :laugh:
I don't think I saw that one. We seem to have the same series on repeat here on nordic BBS Entertainment. THey show the same Live at the Apollo and Pointless episodes too. :bawling: But I DID get depserate once and stream the CDWM. :lol: Yeah it's just like jonesing for junk food!
I want some PETA bread.
Or do I?
I don't think I saw that one. We seem to have the same series on repeat here on nordic BBS Entertainment. THey show the same Live at the Apollo and Pointless episodes too. :bawling: But I DID get depserate once and stream the CDWM. :lol: Yeah it's just like jonesing for junk food!
The sausage trifle episode has stuck with me more than most genuinely great episodes of tv. Some insane woman tries to have that as her dessert, must admit she had airtight logic which had me questioning life itself "Everyone loves custard, everyone loves cream, everyone loves sausages. So i don't know why no one has ever tried them together". The best part was when she served it to her guests and a big sausage fell out and rolled onto the floor causing them all to die with laughter, that's when i knew i was watching monumental television!
cat_sidhe
02-27-18, 02:42 PM
The sausage trifle episode has stuck with me more than most genuinely great episodes of tv. Some insane woman tries to have that as her dessert, must admit she had airtight logic which had me questioning life itself "Everyone loves custard, everyone loves cream, everyone loves sausages. So i don't know why no one has ever tried them together". The best part was when she served it to her guests and a big sausage fell out and rolled onto the floor causing them all to die with laughter, that's when i knew i was watching monumental television!
I think I need to find this episode.
There have been some truly punchable people featured in CDWM. Do you remember a horrible woman who would always wear pink and insisted she was a princess? Treated everyone like crap and was so annoying I sooooo badly wanted to punch her.
Do you remember a horrible woman who would always wear pink and insisted she was a princess? Treated everyone like crap and was so annoying I sooooo badly wanted to punch her.
Honestly that sounds like dozens of different contestants haha. There was one woman who was a complete bitch to everyone who was boasting about how she was going to win all night, then she finished last and it was her doing the presentation as she was hosting the last night, she had a breakdown and snapped at everyone before storming off, was hilarious.
One of my favourites was one with this very likeable woman then the rest were a bunch of vile a-holes who were so needlessly mean to her. She lived across from a nice restaurant and she secretly got them to cook the food for her, they literally passed it through her window and the head chef coached her so she would know what to say if anyone asked how she made the food. They didn't figure it out and she won :D. She told them at the end and it was amazing.
cat_sidhe
02-27-18, 03:45 PM
Honestly that sounds like dozens of different contestants haha. There was one woman who was a complete bitch to everyone who was boasting about how she was going to win all night, then she finished last and it was her doing the presentation as she was hosting the last night, she had a breakdown and snapped at everyone before storming off, was hilarious.
One of my favourites was one with this very likeable woman then the rest were a bunch of vile a-holes who were so needlessly mean to her. She lived across from a nice restaurant and she secretly got them to cook the food for her, they literally passed it through her window and the head chef coached her so she would know what to say if anyone asked how she made the food. They didn't figure it out and she won :D. She told them at the end and it was amazing.
I think I saw the first one - which also reminds me of a guy who thought himself above everyone else, who actually lectured people at the end when he didn't win. He was also last and had to announce, and I think his move was to tell the winner to take her money and GTFO of his house. :lol: Very graceful losing.
The second one, DAMN, wish I'd seen that. I'm bound to, at some point.
I think I saw the first one - which also reminds me of a guy who thought himself above everyone else, who actually lectured people at the end when he didn't win. He was also last and had to announce, and I think his move was to tell the winner to take her money and GTFO of his house. :lol: Very graceful losing.
The second one, DAMN, wish I'd seen that. I'm bound to, at some point.
One of the weirdest ones i saw was with an Indian woman, an Indian man, a quiet gay man and this tattooed punk dude. I swear the second they meet the gay man says to the punk guy; "I'm sorry i just really have to ask this, are you racist?", the punk guy is speechless and the two Indians are clearly so awkward. It ended up a fun episode the punk guy was very likeable and he and the gay guy ended up good friends, it was an oddly amiable episode just with an insanely awkward start. No clue what the hell he was thinking asking that.
The sausage trifle
The what? Holy hell, I wonder if that would make the menu at the local vegan hangout. I mean, there's probably no meat in it but that sounds fit to cause a few projectiles, and then some.
I've seen a few eps of that show. Usually just on in the background during the day if I'm in the need for a bit of white noise and cant cope with the idea of commercial radio. Not great viewing for me, but certainly better than the australian version called My Kitchen Rules, made by two failed restauranteurs, and focusing on how bitter, toxic and bitchy the need to be on tv at any cost crowd like to carry on. Pretty fun viewing from the little I've seen, and my attitude to these cooking shows is if it turns kids on to shopping for decent produce and creating some meals for the family without resorting to garbage processed food, that's a good thing.:up: Certainly the cream of reality tv scripted sht available, that's for sure.
Mr Minio
03-01-18, 02:37 AM
Saying you're a vegetarian because you only eat one kind of meat is like saying you're a virgin because you only have sex with one person. "Baby, but I didn't cheat on you. I only blew him off." :D
The what?
This - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trifle
With sausages in it. It's basically the episode of Friends when Rachel makes a Trifle with beef, carrots and peas in it. Wouldn't be surprised if that's where she got the idea and she was trying to be remembered, was pretty funny anyway.
Holy hell, I wonder if that would make the menu at the local vegan hangout. I mean, there's probably no meat in it but that sounds fit to cause a few projectiles, and then some.
She used Pork Sausages, there was meat in it.
This - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trifle
With sausages in it. It's basically the episode of Friends when Rachel makes a Trifle with beef, carrots and peas in it. Wouldn't be surprised if that's where she got the idea and she was trying to be remembered, was pretty funny anyway.
She used Pork Sausages, there was meat in it.
This is a possibility as a dog's birthday meal. My aussie butcher called Xing makes sausages gluten free. That's sort of halfway to being vegan.
Omnizoa
03-02-18, 08:25 AM
Is the baby subordinating a grown woman to drink it's breastmilk?
Looks like I earned a Yoda siggy. Go me.
What are you babbling about now?You said, and I quote:
I could never be a vegan (too complicated for me),I have shown you it's not complicated. So you can be vegan.
Vegans think they're at the top of the pile.We still doin' this?
the noble of the noblest - vegans who went all the way to that poor little third world country they wouldnt have given a penny to any other time in order to bring back rarefied air so their brother and sister wankatarians could breathe freely, not eat, and save the ants from being accidentally stepped on. Oh no wait...those clowns died for their efforts, and potentially wasted resources while endangering humans. Good job.You sure have a bone to pick with imaginary vegans. Did imaginary vegans start a compost heap in your cereal or something?
Omnizoa
03-02-18, 08:27 AM
My aussie butcher called Xing makes sausages gluten free. That's sort of halfway to being vegan.
You are just flat-out trolling this thread now.
You are just flat-out trolling this thread now.
Wut? If you think I'm trolling then report me. Your outright aggression to anyone and everyone is getting tedious, and you sure are not placing yourself on the top rung of vegan poster boys. Tofu should not be boiling your blood as much as it does, dude.I gave you another go after your first attempts to get stuck into me but I'm now bored so please stop dragging me in with your tags. Thanks.
Dani, you brought up Veganism to me twice when it obviously wasn't applicable. I was talking about Sausage Trifle obviously a meat thing and you used that to tell us again how gross and dumb you find Vegans.
The what? Holy hell, I wonder if that would make the menu at the local vegan hangout. I mean, there's probably no meat in it but that sounds fit to cause a few projectiles, and then some.
This is a possibility as a dog's birthday meal. My aussie butcher called Xing makes sausages gluten free. That's sort of halfway to being vegan.
I think you dragged Omni into this if anything since he's a Vegan and this is a thread he has been active in, you knew he'd see those comments. That's fine but you shouldn't be surprised if he responds and you shouldn't insinuate that he's following you around when it looks like the opposite from the posts everyone can see.
I was replying to you about your sausage trifle comment, and having a jab at hotdogs not containing any meat if you must know, not a word about vegans being dumb although let me run that by my loved ones who are vegan and I'll start with my brother and ask him if I've ever called him stupid. SMH.
Once again, dont tag me for this thread. TIA. The OP obviously wants me out of it and I'm happy to comply :up:
Miss Vicky
03-02-18, 02:50 PM
hotdogs not containing any meat
Only vegetarian/vegan hot dogs contain no meat.
Your comment doesn't work on any level.
You decided to post in this thread, people are free to respond to your posts. If you don't want responded to i'd suggest deleting your posts because people are going to respond with or without your warning. You posted freely before Omni objected then suddenly it became an issue for you to be a part of this thread, i personally think that's pretty crafty and duplicitous but okay.
For the record i give zero value to "my family/friends *x*" and neither should anyone else unless they personally know the person. It's an easy way to shut down anything.
Stirchley
03-02-18, 05:22 PM
Looks like I earned a Yoda siggy. Go me.
Too bad you typed it’s instead of its. Maybe learn the difference between a possessive pronoun & a contraction?
Might've been a typo.
Serious question: is anyone interested in discussing this issue substantively? If it's just gonna be snark from here on out, regardless of how it got to that point, might as well close the thread.
Might've been a typo.
Serious question: is anyone interested in discussing this issue substantively?
Stirchley's OP was discussed and it's an important topic attracting a lot of campaigns, but it somehow got lost.
Miss Vicky
03-02-18, 05:39 PM
Too bad you typed it’s instead of its. Maybe learn the difference between a possessive pronoun & a contraction?
Was that really necessary?
The thread ought to be closed. At this point its devolved into nothing but people taking jabs at each other.
Stirchley
03-02-18, 05:51 PM
Was that really necessary?
The thread ought to be closed. At this point its devolved into nothing but people taking jabs at each other.
Not sure how pointing out a grammatical error is taking a jab at someone. Personally, I like it if I make a mistake & someone points it out to me. As has happened here on more than one occasion.
cat_sidhe
03-02-18, 05:55 PM
Was that really necessary?
The thread ought to be closed. At this point its devolved into nothing but people taking jabs at each other.
Not sure how pointing out a grammatical error is taking a jab at someone. Personally, I like it if I make a mistake & someone points it out to me. As has happened here on more than one occasion.
Granted, you've never been bitchy about that kind of thing. I'd say it's sensitive because of the nature of how the thread ended up.
Miss Vicky
03-02-18, 06:10 PM
Not sure how pointing out a grammatical error is taking a jab at someone. Personally, I like it if I make a mistake & someone points it out to me. As has happened here on more than one occasion.
You didn't just point out a grammatical error. Your comment about "maybe learning the difference" was clearly meant to offend.
Personally, i liked the its/it's thing coz i remember Austruck pulling Yoda up for that before :D.
That's his mum who is a writer though, it's definitely inappropriate otherwise.
Stirchley
03-02-18, 06:25 PM
You didn't just point out a grammatical error. Your comment about "maybe learning the difference" was clearly meant to offend.
You’re on a rag because of Amazon Prime today. Don’t take it out on me & others.
Last time I am posting in this thread.
Miss Vicky
03-02-18, 06:29 PM
You’re on a rag because of Amazon Prime today. Don’t take it out on me & others.
The two issues are unrelated. Your comment was rude and uncalled for, and I'd have said something about it regardless of any other factors.
Last time anyone is. I'm closing it.
And for the record, I can't imagine that post wasn't meant as a jab, either.
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