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Okay, so this is the second review thread I talked about creating. It is also based on a concept that I have thought about in a while and even talked about with a few members here...

I feel like, if done right, it is a great idea to challenge myself and also make a thread that's very organized and organic in style. What I want to create here, is an opportunity to rework my old reviews of otherwise great movies; reviews that I liked, but never tagged, and therefore I want to rewrite them partially or completely and repost them in a way that makes it more exciting than just rehashing my old work.

I basically want to do this in a monthly or weekly thematic style, where each new week/month will have a new theme or basis for the reviews. For example, one week could be "western week", another "Tarantino week" and a third "Fast & Furious week"... what that means is, that I will either post only western reviews for a while, the entirety of Tarantino's reviews in order or the entire F&F franchise in order. That also means that one or more reviews will be completely new, in the between the older but rewritten ones.

Review threads are often dependent on what one randomly watch, so this concept will create a review thread that feels more written, arranged and posted with purpose and meaning behind it.

Hope you will enjoy! :)
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Theme #1 - Pixar
1. Toy Story (1995) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1778245#post1778245)
2. A Bug's Life (1998) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1779578#post1779578)
3. Toy Story 2 (1999) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1779639#post1779639)
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[ScarletLion]

I'd definitely keep an eye on this thread. I enjoy your scribbles.

[MovieMeditation]

Theme #1

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Sorry if I scare anyone away who doesn't like animation. But this seems to be the most ideal to pick because of the reviews I got packed up and because it can work as an epilogue to my massive Disney Classics walkthrough back in 2015...

[Camo]

This sounds interesting too, glad to see your reviews haven't died they've only gotten stronger :laugh:

Pixar sounds like a good start. Don't think i've seen a Pixar film since Finding Dory which was over a year ago.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm liking your idea for themed reviewing here, MM! It should be fun:) And who knows maybe you've started a trend? I'm very interested in this as by doing a theme I think you'll get a lot of visitors with good combos:up:

[MovieMeditation]

I'm liking your idea for themed reviewing here, MM! It should be fun:) And who knows maybe you've started a trend? I'm very interested in this as by doing a theme I think you'll get a lot of visitors with good combos:up:
Yeah, I think there is something to this idea that may very well be a succesful thing. We'll see...

Pixar is very universal, but obviously there are better themes to be picked that can fit a greater deal of this forum. However, it just seemed right for that to be the first theme.

[Citizen Rules]

Yeah, I think there is something to this idea that may very well be a succesful thing. We'll see...

Pixar is very universal, but obviously there are better themes to be picked that can fit a greater deal of this forum. However, it just seemed right for that to be the first theme.I've only seen a few Pixar films, but I liked them. I might try watching a couple of the ones you post. BTW I got the DVD of Patriots Day and I'll post on your other thread once I watch it.

[Swan]

<3 MM is a reviewing genius.

[MovieMeditation]

<3 MM is a reviewing genius.
Tell me something I don't know. :p

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I have been playing with the idea of introducing Pixar movies, as an extension to my former film binging of the Disney Classics catalogue, and this new schematically themed review thread seems to be the perfect opportunity to finally do so. First story to be toyed with is Pixar’s very first feature film, ‘Toy Story’, from 1995 – an everlasting, undying realization of every child’s dream – to see your toys come to life when you are sleeping or away from home. This movie was made the year I was born and the first sequel came when, thankfully, I wasn’t a freaking fetus no more and actually able to appreciate and perceive moving pictures. What a joy to behold – and that joy can almost be held once again by watching a childhood classic like this.

Unfortunately, sometimes these special movies can’t stand the test of time or personal growth. Thankfully, I can comfortably say, that after watching the first ‘Toy Story’ and its sequel a good number of times, they both still hold up as excellent movies. I think I prefer the sequel, but the status of the first one is never to be joked with and it jogs along right in the rear end of my favorite entry and it has the most down to earth story of them all. It starts off fast but firm, by having all the toys introduced almost instantaneously, because of the way we see the toys react and interact with each other when Andy’s birthday has been moved up one week.

As an audience you are already in the moment and part of the playtime. When Buzz is introduced it is done extremely well and they even succeed in making a toy big and frightening to another toy! And the conversation between Woody and Buzz really sets the stage and sells the conflict and the characters behind it. The animation is stunning, the jokes are super funny and all this sets up the film and its characters pretty much perfectly. You are instantly in the world of inanimate figures, who are now so full of heart and soul. The story that follows is surprisingly grounded and close to the heart; filled with well-drawn themes of togetherness, trust, jealously, self-acceptance and more... Everything it touches upon is handled smoothly and expertly, without ever moving away from the smaller story it sets out to be.

Woody and Buzz ends up out in the huge human world, but to me it never feels that big, merely just… human. And that is mainly because of the center of the story being the strong bond between Andy and the toys – both in the way the toy characters are focused on him but also the way us as human beings are focused on him and how the ‘camera’ makes it easy to connect because that is the clear approach and emphasis taken. Furthermore, that is what makes the grander finale work so great. You never really expect it, but oh my what a high-flying, tears falling finale that is. It is strong, intense, emotional as well as the epitome of the entire movie. The movie also has great subtlety and sometimes it is simply the little things that makes it all work – and yes, I guess that kind of does mean “literally” in this example. ;)

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’Toy Story’ was a tough act to follow and reaching for the skies is hard enough on its own… staying there is even harder. But Pixar seemed to know which parts to play and tweak with and I’m sure if they ever did fall this early on, they would fall with style. ‘A Bug’s Life’ has been bugging me in the past, mainly because I didn’t know quite what to think of it. I thought it was good, but sitting in the middle of two “Toy Stories” towering up beside it just made this movie seem like a little, insignificant insect. Thankfully, at least this time, I was kind of able to see it as a stand-alone film and an extension of the evolution of the studio. This is actually a really fun film…

And that may very well be the main problems here – the impact that comes from the heavy emotional involvement is missing this time around. ‘Toy Story’ had it all and ‘A Bug’s Life’ is not without excellent elements, but the emotional angle is not really there and therefore it fails to feel just as grand and cinematically potent as its predecessor. That said, I think ‘A Bug’s Life’ works just fine being a fun, thrilling and excitingly amusing little energy spark, which takes you on a fun ride with a small wink to that of Kurosawa’s ‘Seven Samurai’. The movie does have this feeling of being almost a fable in a way, where it goes about its themes and story beats as morals and lessons to be learned. It has a clear structure and a broad group of characters, who keeps the story interesting and bit more unpredictable than such.

The voice acting is also excellent with pretty much perfect casting choices; I especially like Kevin Spacey (obviously) as the villain, Hopper, and Joe Ranft as Heimlich. For its time, the animation is still gorgeous, though a bit more outdated than other Pixar flicks. The audio mixing and editing is always excellent in every Pixar film seems to always be some of the best there is. A shame the studio represented in the audio mixing/editing categories at the Oscars, because they really deserve it. Anyways, overall ‘A Bug’s Life’ is a fun little film, with a big heart and simple but strong themes. It isn’t as well-rounded or cinematically sublime as other films from the studio, but it is better than its reputation, that’s for sure…

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[Camo]

Good reviews. Toy Story is actually my least favourite of the trilogy and i'd rank it 8th in Pixar films, still good. I enjoy A Bugs Life but would only have it 12th for Pixar. As a kid i preferred Antz, not seen that in about 15 years though.

[MovieMeditation]

Good reviews. Toy Story is actually my least favourite of the trilogy and i'd rank it 8th in Pixar films, still good. I enjoy A Bugs Life but would only have it 12th for Pixar. As a kid i preferred Antz, not seen that in about 15 years though.
I don't think I've ever seen Antz, actually...

Shame you don't like Toy Story more. The Third is by far my least favourite. It didn't really bring anything new to the franchise. The climax was sublime, But that's it for me. Anyways, the review for that will come soon enough.

Thanks for checking in, Camo!

[TheUsualSuspect]

Toy Story changed the way animated movies were done. It's historic and hilarious. A great film that holds up and a rare instance where all 3 movies in the trilogy are really good.

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There is ‘Aliens’, there is ‘Terminator 2’, there is ‘The Godfather Part II’ and then there is ‘Toy Story 2’... This is one of the greatest follow-ups ever made, in my opinion, though I’m equally sad and surprised to see it mentioned as the weakest in the franchise by quite a few here and there. I will admit that the first and second films are childhood favorites of mine, which definitely holds a good dose of nostalgia, but nevertheless the films quality isn’t lessened or clouded much at all, I think. There have been times where I have rewatched childhood favorites that unfortunately ended falling flat, so it isn’t always a guarantee to love a past favorite…

However, ‘Toy Stort 2’ still stands strong with me, no matter how many times I watch it. Since it is quite relevant for this review, and the entirety of the actual film, I will simply say it right from the beginning: what makes the sequel superior to the first one, in my opinion, is that it expands and develops on all aspects of which generated quite a lot of curiosity when seeing the first one. And it does it in a natural but quite ambitious way, and to my surprise it manages to keep everything balanced and afloat, without ever breaking from the pressure. It references the original film in fun and inventive ways, but that aspect never carries the entire film, and it has so much that is new and bigger, yet it never ruins the core of the actual story. It is grander and more fun and adventurous, which perhaps makes it great in other ways than the original, so which you prefer isn’t really that important. I always use this slightly odd comparison with the Alien-franchise, since the grounded and more simplistic original is made bigger, and to some extent better, with the more adventurous and action-filled sequel, which also develops greatly on its original atmosphere and its ideas. That is basically the recipe for a successful sequel and ‘Toy Stort 2’ does that to perfection.

Sorry, let’s get back on track here… Right from the fantastic opening sequence with Buzz actually being realized as a true universal galactic hero, which I’m sure some were curious about in one way or the other. We now get to see what “planet Buzz was living on” during the first film and what his past is basically all about when realized. Same goes for Woody, when he is introduced to what kind of character he is, or rather was, and he almost takes on the role that Buzz had in the first one… And in connection to the story, instead of Andy receiving things like he did in the original, he is now giving things away on a yard sale… Woody is kidnapped by this toy collector, which is quite an inventive way to expand on the story and universe, since it discusses the opportunity of toys not being meant to be played with, and this creates a whole new perspective on things…

The rescue mission executed with Buzz in the lead is fun and quite adventurous, and this is also where I think it manages to go even bigger but with the character-driven atmosphere still intact. In the original, I felt like Buzz and Woody only quickly touches upon the human world, and somehow it also comes across as less big and dangerous, especially since we are quickly back in the smaller settings again, at Sid’s house. But in the sequel the toys are truly introduced to the great big world and how dangerous and enormous it actually is. Not only thinking of the amazing road scene, the huge baggage-travel madness, following the even bigger plane chase and rescue scene, but also the fact that a few cheese puffs spread across a floor suddenly seem particularly enormous and dangerous. There is truly a lot of talent behind this film, making it all seem so huge; even the everyday stuff.

The story touches upon some of the same aspects as the first film, but it develops on them and creates new ones as well. It is still about togetherness, trust and so on, but it is fun to see the tables turned a bit this time, with Woody doubting his entire life and with the film now touching upon self-discovery, abandonment and outgrowing the past. It feels natural and fresh even when it reflects on past ideas used in the original… It is just such a fun, big and adventurous ride, which feels so huge and crazy with all your hopes being fulfilled almost at once… We get to experience the backstory of Buzz, Woody and a bunch of new characters – as well as being introduced to the evil emperor Zurg – also being in an actual toy store, Buzz meeting “himself”, toy collectors, and well… basically the entire world seems to be used as a fundament for the fun and games going on in ‘Toy Story 2’. A truly excellent sequel.

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[Camo]

Great review. Glad to see that's your favourite of the Trilogy too, in my experience it's usually the first or third. I'd have it as my fifth favourite Pixar.

[HashtagBrownies]

Toy Story 1&2 will always be a part of my childhood.

[gbgoodies]

It's been a while since I watched any of the Toy Story movies, and the last time I watched them, it was as a marathon, so they kind of blend together for me, but as I recall, I liked them in release order. (Toy Story was my favorite, followed by Toy Story 2, and then Toy Story 3 was my least favorite, but they're all good movies.)

I remember when the first Toy Story movie was released, everyone was talking about how it was a breakthrough in animated movies, so I went to see it just for the animation. I didn't know what to expect, but I remember it quickly became one of my favorite animated movies. (It has since been surpassed by other animated movies, including several other Pixar movies.)

I collect figures of the little green aliens, and I even have a toy crane machine that's filled with little green aliens. :)

It's been even longer since I watched A Bug’s Life, so I don't remember much about it anymore, but I remember thinking that it exceeded my expectations, (which wasn't very hard to do since it was a movie about bugs.)

[MovieMeditation]

Quite the reply there, gbgoodies !

Thanks for the comment. :up: what's your top 3 Pixars?

[FromBeyond]

I found Toy Story 2 such a disappointing sequel, how you can compare it alongside T2 in sequel territory is a mystery to me. Toy Story 3 captured the magic again.

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I found Toy Story 2 such a disappointing sequel, how you can compare it alongside T2 in sequel territory is a mystery to me. Toy Story 3 captured the magic again.
You liked Blair Witch... your opinion is officially invalid. :D

The comparisons was obviously more for fun; to create an overly exaggerated expression of how much I like it. The movies can't be compared really...

But I do think it's one of the best sequels out there. Toy Story 3 is just a bland rehash of past storylines and concepts combined with a bit of nostalgia.

The opening of a seemingly real-life action-event kind of parallels the opening with Buzz in the second movie.

The toys being given away accidently parallels the second movie where Woody is also given away accidently.

Buzz being turned to demo-mode and Spanish mode parallels the second movie where he also turns against the toys / changes personas.

The flashback backstory with Lotso the Bear, Big Baby etc. clearly parallels the flashback backstory of Jessie from the second movie and how she was let down by her owner.

Lotso ending up "in the wrong place" by getting what he deserves and ending up on the grill on the garbage truck kind of parallels how Stinky Pete in the second movie ends up also getting what he deserves by ending up in a bag with a girl who loves to decorate her toys.


And there is a lot more than that... And if it ain't a clear parallel it is a clear contrast, which is their way of "switching it up" so it isn't obviously taken from the other films in the franchise. :shrug:

[nebbit]

Nice I feel all Zen now

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[FromBeyond]

You liked Blair Witch... your opinion is officially invalid. :D

The comparisons was obviously more for fun; to create an overly exaggerated expression of how much I like it. The movies can't be compared really...

But I do think it's one of the best sequels out there. Toy Story 3 is just a bland rehash of past storylines and concepts combined with a bit of nostalgia.

The opening of a seemingly real-life action-event kind of parallels the opening with Buzz in the second movie.

The toys being given away accidently parallels the second movie where Woody is also given away accidently.

Buzz being turned to demo-mode and Spanish mode parallels the second movie where he also turns against the toys / changes personas.

The flashback backstory with Lotso the Bear, Big Baby etc. clearly parallels the flashback backstory of Jessie from the second movie and how she was let down by her owner.

Lotso ending up "in the wrong place" by getting what he deserves and ending up on the grill on the garbage truck kind of parallels how Stinky Pete in the second movie ends up also getting what he deserves by ending up in a bag with a girl who loves to decorate her toys.


And there is a lot more than that... And if it ain't a clear parallel it is a clear contrast, which is their way of "switching it up" so it isn't obviously taken from the other films in the franchise. :shrug:

I thought Toy Story 2 had already tarnished the franchise by the time Toy Story 3 had arrived, had it been better I might of been more bothered by the blatant nostalgia rip (which I did get) of the first two films but it didn't bother me a lot, TS2 just did what most Disney sequels do... give a back story... find a love interest for characters.. blah blah blah everything about it was so dull, also I think it's a bit unfair on TS3 to say that everything that isn't a direct parallel is just there to placate the viewer or "filler".. it was it's own thing as well, the animation was really neat too

Blair Witch was good, what the hell is wrong with you? :p

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Monsters, Inc.
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Here is a movie that seems to monstrously increase in quality with every new viewing. I always liked it, certain aspects I loved, but I do really think this is one of the very best movies from Pixar, which makes it even worse when the general response isn’t quite up there with the likes of ‘Toy Story’ and such. Because this movie did for monsters in the closet what ‘Toy Story’ did for toys on the floor and moreover the concept for ‘Monsters, Inc.’ seem even more ingenious than what came before.

In many ways, it is a more diverse and dangerous movie to make, because it puts the monsters in the closet on display – which many children fear – and even though they do turn things around, the monsters start out exactly how we perceive them and “evil ones” are still essentially evil and therefore will perhaps continue to cement themselves in the minds of the children. That said, I do think that Pixar builds it up nicely, even things out, and then wraps it all up well in the end, so that most children should walk away being less scared of monsters in their rooms.

As I said, the overall response for this movie is a tiny bit “less” than the greatest successes of the studio, yet this might be a greater achievement than those in question, mainly because ‘Monsters, Inc’. is so inventive and creative and really sets out to make something original and outstanding within cinema and not just within children’s cinema. The whole deal about monsters living in a world beyond ours, living children’s fear by collecting their screams, which is then used as energy to power the entire monster universe. That is truly Pixar at their finest and their best – always taking ideas and concepts to the next level in a way that can even make the parents excited.

The movie hooks you from the start with the beautiful traditionally animated opening credits set to jazzy music from Pixar-favorite, Randy Newman. From there, the premise is made clear within the first few minutes and the main characters are introduced only a few seconds later, while the rest of the movie moves forward in a well-timed pace, until it reaches the dazzling “door distress” of a climax, taking place inside the factory. Once again, the voice acting is top notch, with the likes of John Goodman, Billy Crystal and Steve Buscemi delivering A-grade performances that really shows us that animated characters can be so filled with life that they almost feel real.

Apart from all that, the animation is great, the humor is warm and wicked enough to keep things exciting and the story is heartfelt and touching in a subtle yet satisfying way. All this is incorporated nicely into ‘Monsters, Inc’, which certinaly broke down some doors in connection to how animated children movies are made and director Pete Docter continues to be one of the most interesting minds working at Disney/Pixar to this day... For me personally, this movie definitely moved up a few notches on my ranking list…

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[gbgoodies]

Quite the reply there, gbgoodies !

Thanks for the comment. :up: what's your top 3 Pixars?

WALL-E is my favorite Pixar movie, and one of my all-time favorite movies.

Monsters, Inc. is a close second.

I also love Inside Out and Finding Nemo.

Those would be my top four favorite Pixar movies, with either The Incredibles or Cars rounding out my top five.

[Optimus]

I found Toy Story 2 such a disappointing sequel, how you can compare it alongside T2 in sequel territory is a mystery to me. Toy Story 3 captured the magic again.

I'd probably agree with this. Toy Story 2 was definitely the weakest of the trilogy, although i still think it's great. Toy Story 3 is the best of the 3 in my opinion.

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Finding
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Pixar is constantly on the edge-2-Ovation even before they release their next feature – and with ‘Finding Nemo’ that was no exception. With a fish out of water story and some super breathtaking visuals, the studio sets yet another sky high standard – here, on deep sea detail – and how to bring animation to life and make the audience connect to dots and connect the dots as to what we perceive in the moving pictures on screen.

Flowing through the fantastically detailed underwater world is utterly mesmerizing to watch and being in this whirlwind of wonder is beyond this world; the colors and the authenticity really makes me sit in awe several times throughout. The movie as a whole used to impress me infinitely, on every level, especially sea level (and below), but this time the story didn’t take me on the same emotionally elevating and effortlessly entertaining journey that it used to… I don’t know what it was, maybe it will change back again in the future, but for now, I will try and put my thoughts into words and wash away past memories…

In one way or the other, ‘Finding Nemo’ just didn’t float my boat this time around and I’m not sure why. However, the animation was still awe-inspiring, the story was still interesting though less inviting, and the execution felt a little more frantic and “fumbly” this time around. The movie was always rather rapidly paced, though the energy was very welcoming and the characters made it all a fun waterpark ride. But this time around, I didn’t connect as much with the story nor the characters – I became a bit more annoyed by the hectic and jumbled way the story was told and that held me back from falling headfirst into the otherwise harmwarming beautiful story that lies below the surface. The themes of family, friendship, prejudice, loss, loneliness and more is all very fascinating, but the tempo and timing of the story kept me from really attaching myself to it this time.

There were still scenes that were fast-paced and fragmented, which I still enjoyed. The scene where they meet the shark is pretty amusing, but I’m not a fan of it. The following chase scene though is rather engaging and the scene where Dory attempts to read the scuba mask is a pretty good example of when the wildly energetic style clicks with the capable but confused relationship between her and Marlin, as well as Dory’s long term short term memory loss running gag going on. The gobble scene is fun and very exciting too.

Still, all this might be fun, but the tone of the movie is quite confused. I mean, the opening scene is extremely intense, dark and very heartbreaking, yet the movie that follows is Disney at their most lightweight, except for a few small areas. Then you have the fish tank, which is filled with loud speaking, bobble-blabbering characters, yet there are instances like the filtration system scene and the whole deal about Darla and the death of a fish – including a horrible photo of a downward floating dead friend of theirs – that just doesn’t match up with the rest of the movie.

And, in contrast, to the touching and terrifying opening scene, the closing moral conclusion with the fish swimming down and the whole thing about working together, trusting and listening to each other doesn’t really match neither the opening nor the movie as a whole, mostly coming off as quite “easy” and anti-climactic in my opinion. I have hope for finding the love for ‘Finding Nemo’ once again in the future. I will “just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming, swimming, swimming…”

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[Okay]

Not the biggest fan of Pixar here, but your write-ups are great regardless, even if I disagree with what you're saying, at least it was well worded and visually pleasing.

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Not the biggest fan of Pixar here, but your write-ups are great regardless, even if I disagree with what you're saying, at least it was well worded and visually pleasing.
Thank you very much. Which ones do you disagree with and what are your favourite Pixar films?

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Thank you very much. Which ones do you disagree with and what are your favourite Pixar films?

I like the first Toy Story and what it brought to the animation world, but I do disagree about it totally holding up against the test of time, I mean Sid's dog looks horrible during quite a few shots, but it's the first computer animated movie ever, so what the hell. I didn't think the writing at least of Buzz's character was that much thought through, he constantly keeps insisting that he is a space ranger but as soon as a human walks in he pretends to be a toy.

I also don't like any of the films so far as much as you do, none of their stories intrigue me that much nor do I think they're that imaginative, but that's just me, although, I do agree that TS2 is the best of its trilogy.

As for my favourite Pixar films, most of them are good, but good is where it stops for me, with the exception of Ratatouille, which I easily find to be their best work.

[edarsenal]

I've done that, went through a movie I've always enjoyed and then felt meh about it.
No worries, the love does come back so, yeah, keep swimming, keep swimming, keep swimming

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although, I do agree that TS2 is the best of its trilogy.
Well, for all our disagreements, this makes up for all of them!!!

I can't get ANYONE to agree with me on that so THANK YOU! :p

[gbgoodies]

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I had the opposite reaction to multiple watches of Finding Nemo than you seem to have had. I liked it the first time I saw it, but I didn't love it. I have since rewatched it numerous times, and I like it more and more every time, to the point that it's now one of my favorite Pixar movies.

I absolutely love Ellen DeGeneres as Dory, and I liked the sequel Finding Dory too. I've only seen Finding Dory once so far, so I don't love it as much as the first movie yet, but I hope that it has the same effect as the first movie, and it gets better and better with each rewatch,

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I had the opposite reaction to multiple watches of Finding Nemo than you seem to have had. I liked it the first time I saw it, but I didn't love it. I have since rewatched it numerous times, and I like it more and more every time, to the point that it's now one of my favorite Pixar movies.

I absolutely love Ellen DeGeneres as Dory, and I liked the sequel Finding Dory too. I've only seen Finding Dory once so far, so I don't love it as much as the first movie yet, but I hope that it has the same effect as the first movie, and it gets better and better with each rewatch,
I, too, had that reaction actually. It only just now went the other way.

I liked it, then I liked it more, and suddenly I loved it!! I gave it a 4.5 last time I watched it... I don't know what happened. Yeah, I like Ellen too. Great casting. I found the sequel tolerable and definitely not bad, but MILES from Pixar's usual good. I have only seen it once too though. Might see it again on this Pixar binge...

[gbgoodies]

I, too, had that reaction actually. It only just now went the other way.

I liked it, then I liked it more, and suddenly I loved it!! I gave it a 4.5 last time I watched it... I don't know what happened. Yeah, I like Ellen too. Great casting. I found the sequel tolerable and definitely not bad, but MILES from Pixar's usual good. I have only seen it once too though. Might see it again on this Pixar binge...


Maybe I should quit rewatching it while I'm ahead. :)

I think I had an advantage when I saw the sequel because I knew the ratings were mixed, and some were even bad, but I avoided reading too much about it so I went in almost completely blind, and with low expectations. Maybe that's why I thought the sequel was much better than most of the reviews.

[Citizen Rules]

I actually seen Finding Nemo. I found it a fun watch, but I doubt I'll find the time to pursue it again.

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The Incredibles
"Pixar theme" #6

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“That was totally wicked!” I mean, who could have known that on top of a movie experience lost at sea with me attempting to rescue back my love for ‘Finding Nemo’, a movie called ‘The Incredibles’ would come straight down fast and fiery from above and slam me senseless into the water right after it exploded directly in my face! I don’t even know what I was waiting for… something amazing, I guess? And oh, boy did I get just that!

This film was always fun, for sure, and I remember loving it back in the old days as pure powerhouse of entertainment, though now as an adult the little more subtle details are what sets this movie apart. I guess the emotional core, which usually makes you a crybaby when we reach the climax, is what many have come to expect from Disney and Pixar – myself included – so when this movie aims for something else I left the movie several times unable to appreciate the undertones of larger themes. In a lot of ways, this is Disney’s best portrayal of family and togetherness yet, because the superhero element is used to enhance these themes, not merely the action set pieces.

And the balance of life is something we all struggle with to some extent, which ‘The Incredibles’ shows incredibly well, by using the superhero in hiding, attempting to be ordinary, to help tell that part of the story. Also, the whole deal about identity. Dash’ trouble at school and wanting to compete in sports and be social and do something that may also help him stay motivated and interested, so he doesn’t take it all out in school. Some clever ADHD vibes going on here too. Violet and her “invisibility” is obviously not just a random superpower the writers gave her. Her character is this insecure person, hiding in plain sight, acting as a lot of teenagers do too. And the mother “stretches” herself to keep things together and doing a thousand things at the household at once, while the father is living a life in the past, building up all this anger and unresolved emotions.

Overall, the family aspect just hits home, especially when Mr. Incredible says to his wife “No. I’m not strong enough” emphasizing that without her and the family he is weak and all those muscles amount to nothing. I have to be honest, the power of those words never felt as great as they did this time around. Just all these things about family and identity and all that really is well done. And “my parents are my superheroes” never rang truer than this. Oh, and Brad Bird as Edna Mode… Brilliant!

And hey… talking about family, how about that spoiled little brat who may actually not have had the greatest childhood? Actually, I used to think he was a weak villain. He still isn’t a favorite, but he liked his character and motivation more this time. In a way, he is merely a fanboy who was let down by his hero, then growing up in anger and hatred, wanting to show his worth and be the best, but doing so by removing all who may intervene and stop him from succeeding, only to realize he will never be able to be or do what a real superhero does, which is then shown with karma coming back to bite him after he gets defeated by his own making and his own uncontrollable ego and power-dream crashing down upon him.

Sure, in broad strokes, this might sound as something we have seen before, but the execution makes it seem like so much more. He is a twisted little pyscho for sure, but there is a broken boy behind that mask – actually simply a human behind that mask – who hides behind his creations and while the real superheroes try their best to be ordinary, the ordinary in this case tries his best to be super. But he can never be what someone else is and his power-hungry dream sucks the life out of him – literally at one point actually...

Ultimately, this is a great homage to the superhero and action genres, which is beautifully held together by a strong bond of togetherness and spiced up with stunning visuals and a breathtaking audio experience – seriously, I have said it before, Disney/Pixar has some amazing sound design and mixing (oh, it won an Oscar I see now). The DTS track on ‘The Incredibles’ blew me away, especially the scenes with Dash running and the robot scenes filled with earthshattering bass. And the score is amazing, jazzy yet upbeat and thematically heroic. Anyways, this movie is a super-fun time with superheroes, super villains and slick gadgets, but the connection we all make no matter the superficial surface, is to the characters who are no more super than we are, when it all comes down to it. They deal with the same stuff we do and in a way… we are all superheroes…

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[gbgoodies]

It's been a while since I watched The Incredibles, but I remember the movie being a lot of fun. It kind of reminded me of a Fantastic Four wannabe, but that's not a bad thing because Pixar did a great job.

My favorite character is Edna, ("No capes!"). I even have a little figure of her on my desk. :)

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It's been a while since I watched The Incredibles, but I remember the movie being a lot of fun. It kind of reminded me of a Fantastic Four wannabe, but that's not a bad thing because Pixar did a great job.

My favorite character is Edna, ("No capes!"). I even have a little figure of her on my desk. :)
Yeah, as I said in my review LOVE EDNA!!!

And that she's voiced by director Brad Bird is even more amazing. :laugh:

[edarsenal]

just finished reading Monsters Inc review, totally agree with all of it -- also, Finding Dory was a lot of fun. Seen it about 3 times and it does get better with rewatches.

Will be back to read the Incredibles. LOVE that movie. Saw it countless times annnd EDNA ROCKS!!
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[edarsenal]

Incredibles is easily in the Top #5 for me, if not #3 if I sat down and sorted it out.
This is one that really was for the adults that got dragged to it by their kids.
Being stuck in a lifeless job and those little aggravations of normal life, never mind the great way they showed family life. And yes, the villain being a former/embittered fanboy was some great writing. And that they HAD a fanboy voicing him was perfect.
"IncrediBOY!"
"I'm not affiliated with you!"

[edarsenal]

went back and read the Toy Stories and Bug's Life.
Been AGES since seeing the Toy Stories and really enjoyed them and I do agree, it ain't easy to do a follow up to a great movie but they were able to with Toy Story 2
Bug's Life is another favorite and I think, besides the humor and the great voice actors in this (Leary as a Ladybug?!? Frickin BRILLIANT) was that it didn't necessarily yank at the emotional strings as would become a staple for Pixar movies. It was just fun and funny and I love it for it.
Oh, and now that I have an idea of your age, MM, I gotta say, always thought you were older. And I say that as a compliment. Of course, I may start calling you "Junior" with a Sean Connery accent from when he was in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. LOL ;)

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Thanks for all the comments, ed!!! I can't thank you enough!

Oh, and now that I have an idea of your age, MM, I gotta say, always thought you were older. And I say that as a compliment. Of course, I may start calling you "Junior" with a Sean Connery accent from when he was in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. LOL ;)
Hehe yeah, a lot of people say that. ;) and I love to hear it! :p

But seriously though, that's why my profile doesn't state my age. I like that people just talk to me and get to know me and my taste and knowledge through the way I write and act around here and my reviews too of course... I don't hide who I am though and a lot of people here know my age, but I just do it because I don't think age matters and this forum and other forums prove it.

I was talking to dadgumblah about this and how forums are so great because we are all just avatars and usernames... only our writing is truly us. So that's how we connect, through words and love for the same things in this case movies.

So yeah, I like that we are all just at the same level and I'm not judged for my age. I know most will say "but we don't" yet I'm sure most still act slightly differently when it comes to the age or gender of the person they talk to, especially in real life. So not putting that on display helps the conversion and equality here I think. :)

But indeed, as I said, I don't exactly hide it; I merely make it a thing not relevant to the discussions and interactions. If I really wanted to hide it I wouldn't talk about childhood favourites or favourite movies from the year I was born and so on. :cool:


But sure, I'd love to be Harrison Ford in his golden age. :p And having Sean Connery as a dad isn't half bad either!

[edarsenal]

excellent points and very true,especially about having WHAT we say really matter.
We all do connect at some level regarding a closeness or distance of age and/or gender; it will happen and that's a good thing.
I do know that for a number of people of here that, when I find out how young they are that adds to the appreciation and respect I already had for the knowledge and spectrum of love for movies they have and express.
And I'm gonna be happy to find fellow old farts and enjoy the shambles down incoherent memory lane.
So, it's all a win-win for me.

And yeah, having Sean Connery for a dad! How f@ckin cool THAT be!?

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Cars
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I recall watching this way back in the day, right about when it came out I think, and I remember mostly enjoying it. But it didn’t take more than another ride through the drive-through before I realized that this wasn’t quite like the other Pixar’s… It felt a bit dull, tedious, over-long and under-aimed compared to the other catalogue titles. Apart from the simpler humor and approach, the animation was also oddly cartoonish and the characters awfully abrupt. Looking past the often impressive animation, ‘Cars’ occasionally felt like a direct-to-cable TV-movie, made for the Disney Channel, and not a feature length theater experience extending the already impressive Pixar catalogue…

Sure, beautifully executed minimalism in animation and simplicity in story can often be a good thing, but in the case of ‘Cars’, the story structure, especially, is an engine fail, bumping away on fumes with a visually unappealing look, despite of the up-to-date animation, which does look beautiful at times. The reflection in the cars and the color rendering, for example, is quite impressive. But in terms of the minimalistic approach, ‘Cars’ isn’t laps apart from the competition, which Pixar usually was when it came to animated movies. But, say, ‘Wall-E’ for one, is a prime example of simplicity done to perfection – both in terms of the dialogue-less opening and the characters of WALL-E and especially EVE, which worked both emotionally and the way that they evolved over time.

‘Cars’ does have some decent themes and morals, but I don’t think they explored them well enough – at least not in the best way – and for marking the 20th anniversary for the studio and being the longest Pixar film to date, it really didn’t say much.
A lot of people think this film is a winner worthy of its own Piston Cup, but I used to think it pissed on us as an audience, because of how they seemed to have dumbed down themselves from the great heights of previous efforts. That said, this rewatch was a smoother ride, though still so smooth it is like a lullaby at times.

As referred to earlier, the characters are perhaps the weakest of any Pixar movie made up until then; mostly consisting of clichés, going on stereotypical for what they are supposed to represent; there is the hippie, the hillbilly, the elderly, the Italian and the Mexican, who all annoyed me or even offended me to some extent. I never ever get “offended”, per say, about a stereotypical portrayal of person because it can still be funny and especially in animation it is an easy win for some slapstick humor or something like that. But ‘Cars’ completely crashed and burned with their approach and it almost seems as if they kind of realized how bad an idea it was to make all the characters freaking automobiles – even the flies in the air! – that they had to turn to overblown stereotypes to get some (forced) variation and recognition into their film… but I wasn’t taken by it. I wasn’t just sitting there like, “Ohhh I know what they are referring to here! How funny!” It was forced, uninventive and even stupid. It felt so pathetic, especially when “topped it off” by doing bad car references. Offended might be the wrong word to use here, but I guess the word can mean many things in relation to this so I will just leave it at that.

What works in the film is the opening and the closing segments, which involves an intense and important race and introduction of our characters and who Lightening McQueen is as a person… eh, car. A selfish, big-timer, who doesn’t appreciate the help or support he gets and only wants what is best for himself – something that comes back to bite him once he gets to Radiator Springs. Some segments work here, like when he has to do and re-do the road, the race against Doc and overall everything involving Doc. But there is a lot of dead spots here and to no surprise Mater voiced by Larry the Cable Guy is tiring and annoying. One of the worst comic relief characters ever created by Disney/Pixar. Then the film was saved once again by a conclusion of McQueen’s story arc and some closure to the town, as well as another intense race that changes McQueen for the better. Also, if anything, the beautifully rendered animation and another killer audio track makes this a passable experience…

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[edarsenal]

did not like Cars and consider it the bottom of the heap and you did a great rendition of why. Bravo.
Cars came off as an obligatory contract film and it only dulls to a rust when compared to the many gems of Pixar.

[Miss Vicky]

I actually adore Cars. Despite its less than stellar reputation, it's among my favorite Pixars and favorite movies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1631589#post1631589) in general. It doesn't have the same depth as some of their other films (it's still miles better than Brave, though) but I still find it incredibly charming and endearing.

Glad to see that you don't hate it at least, MM.

[gbgoodies]

It took me a couple of watches to warm up to Pixar's Cars, but after 2 or 3 watches, it became one of my favorite Pixar movies.

I think part of the problem was the voice cast. Pixar usually does a great job casting their movies, but I think they dropped the ball a bit on Cars because there were no real "standout" performances. However in fairness, I was never a fan of Larry the Cable Guy, but I liked him as Mater.

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did not like Cars and consider it the bottom of the heap and you did a great rendition of why. Bravo.
Cars came off as an obligatory contract film and it only dulls to a rust when compared to the many gems of Pixar.
Yeah, I used to like it even less and my original review was way more harsh. This time I didn't feel as much hate towards it... I used to give it 2

I actually adore Cars. Despite its less than stellar reputation, it's among my favorite Pixars and favorite movies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1631589#post1631589) in general. It doesn't have the same depth as some of their other films (it's still miles better than Brave, though) but I still find it incredibly charming and endearing.

Glad to see that you don't hate it at least, MM.
I remember liking Brave more than the masses, but let's see when I get to the rewatch...

But yeah, I enjoyed Cars more this time.

It took me a couple of watches to warm up to Pixar's Cars, but after 2 or 3 watches, it became one of my favorite Pixar movies.

I think part of the problem was the voice cast. Pixar usually does a great job casting their movies, but I think they dropped the ball a bit on Cars because there were no real "standout" performances. However in fairness, I was never a fan of Larry the Cable Guy, but I liked him as Mater.
I do think Larry the Cable Guy is perfect as Mater. His timing and delivery is spot on and he does perfectly... but it's the character I don't like. His jokes, his behaviour, his stupidity. But the character is played how it should be I guess.

Yeah, the only standout performance for me was Jeremy Clarkson. :D

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Intermission

The point of this thread was to rewrite, not repost, older reviews. And you know me, I take that very literally... So most reviews here are either brand new or almost non-comparable to its older counterpart. Here's what we got so far...


Toy Story (1995) // not rewatched for review // 90-95% new material

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1778245#post1778245) // OLD REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1244977#post1244977)


A Bug's Life (1998) // rewatched for review // 100% new review

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1779578#post1779578)


Toy Story 2 (1999) // not rewatched for review // 35-45% new material

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1779639#post1779639) // OLD REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1244977#post1244977)


Monsters, Inc. (2001) // rewatched for review // 100% new review

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1780776#post1780776)


Finding Nemo (2003) // rewatched for review // 100% new review

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1784898#post1784898)


The Incredibles (2004) // rewatched for review // 98% new material

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1785243#post1785243) // OLD WRITE-UP (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1226888#post1226888) // ADDITIONAL (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1227020#post1227020)


Cars (2006) // rewatched for review // 85-90% new material

NEW REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1786773#post1786773) // OLD REVIEW (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1251138#post1251138)


Next in line is Ratatouille, which will also be a 100% brand new review. But I'm not sure whether I will rewatch it for the review. I watched it earlier this year, so it's still rather fresh in mind, yet I liked it less than I used to so I might watch again to make sure. :up:

[Camo]

Way behind so i'll have to read the reviews later when i have more time. Monsters Inc was my favourite Pixar until i saw Wall-E, it's still second. The Incredibles is third, although i really have to see it again. I'm not as big of a fan of Finding Nemo as everyone else, would have it 10th for Pixar but certainly not bad. Cars i'd have right after Nemo, i enjoyed it alot more than i thought i would. It's not great or anything but it's entertaining enough, my main problem is i didn't think it had to be 2 hours.

[edarsenal]

loved Ratatouille, so should be a lot of fun reading your review on it, MM (Junior) ;)

[gbgoodies]

I do think Larry the Cable Guy is perfect as Mater. His timing and delivery is spot on and he does perfectly... but it's the character I don't like. His jokes, his behaviour, his stupidity. But the character is played how it should be I guess.

Yeah, the only standout performance for me was Jeremy Clarkson. :D


Who's Jeremy Clarkson? :confused:

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Who's Jeremy Clarkson? :confused:
Ooh no you didn't GB!! :eek:

[honeykid]

HE'S LITERALLY...... THE BEST PRESENTER.................. IN THE WOOOOORRRRRLLLLLDD!!! :D

[Chypmunk]

So some say at least.....

[Ms. M]

My favourite one is Monsters, Inc. probably because of polish dubbing which is great and a lot of lines are used in colloquial chats:)

[MovieMeditation]

My favourite one is Monsters, Inc. probably because of polish dubbing which is great and a lot of lines are used in colloquial chats:)
I just checked up on some video clips of the Danish voices for Monster's Inc and they are not good. Sully is completely wrong. BUT the voice for Randall?.......... Mads Mikkelsen - and it really works. He does do some "menacing Mads" but he also so some twisted Randall-ish changes in his voice and it really fits the character.

The only movie I remember to almost enjoy equally in both my own and the English language, is Toy Story. Great voice casting there on the Danish part.

[Luis]

As you can see from my Top 10 movies in my profile. I love Pixar films! My top 3 are Incredibles, Wall-E, and Inside Out. I'm looking forward to the rest of your reviews!

[MovieMeditation]

As you can see from my Top 10 movies in my profile. I love Pixar films! My top 3 are Incredibles, Wall-E, and Inside Out. I'm looking forward to the rest of your reviews!
Thank you very much, I appreciate that. Those are also indeed some of the very best Pixar films ..

Impressive too 10 too. Especially for someone 18 years old - and I mean that as a compliment. Must have been getting really into cinema quite early, eh? Love Singin in the Rain myself too.

[Luis]

Thank you very much, I appreciate that. Those are also indeed some of the very best Pixar films ..

Impressive too 10 too. Especially for someone 18 years old - and I mean that as a compliment. Must have been getting really into cinema quite early, eh? Love Singin in the Rain myself too.

Thanks of the compliment! Yeah I've loved film for a while now, I wrote my first feature length screenplay when I was 11, so I must have loved film a little bit before then. And Yeah Singin' in the Rain is special! I love a handful from your Top 10 myself. Children of Men is a big one for me.

[edarsenal]

I just checked up on some video clips of the Danish voices for Monster's Inc and they are not good. Sully is completely wrong. BUT the voice for Randall?.......... Mads Mikkelsen - and it really works. He does do some "menacing Mads" but he also so some twisted Randall-ish changes in his voice and it really fits the character.

The only movie I remember to almost enjoy equally in both my own and the English language, is Toy Story. Great voice casting there on the Danish part.

HO-LEE CHEESE AND BISCUITS!!!
Mads doing the voice for Randall?!?!
PLEASE PLEASE send me a link to that PLEASE

[gbgoodies]

Who's Jeremy Clarkson? :confused:

Ooh no you didn't GB!! :eek:

I guess I did. :shrug:


HE'S LITERALLY...... THE BEST PRESENTER.................. IN THE WOOOOORRRRRLLLLLDD!!! :D

Presenter of what?


So some say at least.....

This doesn't help either. :(


Three replies, and I still don't know who Jeremy Clarkson is. :rolleyes:

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I guess I did. :shrug:




Presenter of what?




This doesn't help either. :(


Three replies, and I still don't know who Jeremy Clarkson is. :rolleyes:
You don't know who Google is either? :p:D

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gbgoodies

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edarsenal

Forward to 1:40

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[Camo]

Three replies, and I still don't know who Jeremy Clarkson is. :rolleyes:

He's the former presenter of the car show Top Gear. Extremely English, right wing, racist, "bloke". Pretty much an unapologetic POS but he can be entertaining.

He got fired from Top Gear for punching a producer and now does basically the same thing for Amazon in a show called The Grand Tour.

[Ms. M]

I just checked up on some video clips of the Danish voices for Monster's Inc and they are not good. Sully is completely wrong. BUT the voice for Randall?.......... Mads Mikkelsen - and it really works. He does do some "menacing Mads" but he also so some twisted Randall-ish changes in his voice and it really fits the character.

The only movie I remember to almost enjoy equally in both my own and the English language, is Toy Story. Great voice casting there on the Danish part.
Mads? Sounds really good. I regret I don't know Dutch:)
That's couroius in Polish version dubbing was made mostly by little know actors, but it really fits.

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Mads? Sounds really good. I regret I don't know Dutch:)
That's couroius in Polish version dubbing was made mostly by little know actors, but it really fits.
I don't know Dutch either, so you shouldn't feel regret. Danish I do know though. ;)

Dutch is an awful language - please don't compare us to that! :p

[honeykid]

He's the former presenter of the car show Top Gear. Extremely English, right wing, racist, "bloke". Pretty much an unapologetic POS but he can be entertaining.

That's the persona, anyway. I'm not saying he has none of those traits, but I suspect that he knows his audience and he plays to them. That, in and of itself, it is nothing to be proud of either.

[Ms. M]

I don't know Dutch either, so you shouldn't feel regret. Danish I do know though. ;)

Dutch is an awful language - please don't compare us to that! :p
I beg Your pardon, I didn't want to offend You ;) I wouldn't be upset, if I knew Danish. English also is good option:D

[edarsenal]

gbgoodies

https://youtu.be/5MCoUTq85GE

edarsenal

Forward to 1:40

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I'll
Thanks, MM, the other voice actors we're pretty good as well. Would love to see/hear more of Mad, you know, talking Dutch.:D;)

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself :bashful:

[gbgoodies]

You don't know who Google is either? :p:D

It wasn't important enough for me to look him up, and I thought it would be easier to just ask the people here who knew the answer already. :rolleyes:


gbgoodies

https://youtu.be/5MCoUTq85GE


Thank you. He still doesn't look familiar.


He's the former presenter of the car show Top Gear. Extremely English, right wing, racist, "bloke". Pretty much an unapologetic POS but he can be entertaining.

He got fired from Top Gear for punching a producer and now does basically the same thing for Amazon in a show called The Grand Tour.

Thank you for the info. That's probably why I've never heard of him. I never heard of the show "Top Gear" either, and the only thing I know called "The Grand Tour" is an old country music song.