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mojofilter
07-12-17, 02:29 PM
This just in...and I'm excited as hell!
Quentin Tarantino is back with a new movie project about the Manson murders. Shooting is expected to begin in 2018 for a possible 2019 release.
This is gonna be beyond amazing!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/quentin-tarantino-prepping-new-movie-tackling-manson-murders-exclusive/ar-BBEg0aH?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=1PRCDEFE
Erhmagerd, this is going to be brilliant by the sounds of it.
I was actually just thinking about the murders the other day when I came across Folger's coffee since it made me think of Abigail.
TheUsualSuspect
07-12-17, 02:38 PM
I don't know....it feels weird to have Tarantino depict an actual event like this. Inglorious Basterds was different, I'm not sure how well he can translate this to the screen and keep it in his style.
With that being said, I'm still there.
He should cast a baby as Charles Manson. Just to mix things up.
HashtagBrownies
07-12-17, 02:56 PM
Knowing Quentin, the film's probably gonna have a 'Man Bites Dog' vibe to it.
Can't wait to see it.
There's a big fear, it seems, that he'll take a empathetic approach to Manson. I doubt it. In one way or another, this will be a sensationalization, that's inevitable, but I don't imagine Tarantino would be that insensitive.
There are many angles for which to tell this story. The film reportedly views the murders from the outside.
I'm thinking more Summer of Sam than Man Bites Dog.
He's got my ticket..actually, I'd better make it a rental.
McConnaughay
07-14-17, 04:02 PM
After The Hateful Eight, I was really disinterested with Quentin Tarantino, but I am hoping that such unique subject matter will allow him to be interesting again.
d_chatterley
07-15-17, 05:37 AM
Excited about it, but I am holding back until I see the cast list.
Cynema De Bergerac
07-15-17, 09:22 AM
Don't know where he's going with this. What is he going to do? Have Charles Manson partake in a massive over the top, overly violent shootout?.... that'll be weird but awesome, but is it going to happen?
Iroquois
07-15-17, 09:27 AM
Probably not. There's more to the guy's movies than shoot-outs.
Cynema De Bergerac
07-15-17, 09:30 AM
Margot Robbie > Jennifer Lawrence
(Sharon Tate Casting)
TheUsualSuspect
07-16-17, 01:32 AM
Margot Robbie > Jennifer Lawrence
(Sharon Tate Casting)
Apparently Lawrence isn't going to play Tate.
Cynema De Bergerac
07-16-17, 02:17 AM
http://www.beetracks.ru/uploads/images/t/_/b/t_beat_i_ja_lublu_ee_zhopu_kak_bob_marli_dut.jpg
Quentin Tarantino has finished writing his ninth movie!
Super excited for this, especially after an Indiewire article described it as a film similar to Pulp Fiction, and expecting a $100mil+ budget. I can't wait for all the Tarantino sleaze and violence and how he'll dodge the controversy this time around. Who do you think should play the infamous Charlie Manson?
Source: http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/quentin-tarantino-ninth-movie-script-finished-studio-harvey-weinstein-1201893450/
Yeah, the subject has all of QT’s favorite themes. I’m curious to see if this is his response to Inherent Vice (continuing his friendly rivalry with PTA).
Oh bring it on. How can he make a movie about Manson drip with laughs. Interesting
I’m really curious as to how he’ll engage the material. This sort of needs precisely made and that could mean muted Tarantino which we haven’t seen since... 1997?
^ Yes I'm curious as well. Not even sure what genre it will fall into but I feel it must be more human and subtle than his previous films.
Quentin Tarantino has finished writing his ninth movie!
Super excited for this, especially after an Indiewire article described it as a film similar to Pulp Fiction, and expecting a $100mil+ budget. I can't wait for all the Tarantino sleaze and violence and how he'll dodge the controversy this time around. Who do you think should play the infamous Charlie Manson?
Source: http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/quentin-tarantino-ninth-movie-script-finished-studio-harvey-weinstein-1201893450/
Christain Bale or Mathew McConaghey if we are talking big budget and they are the main focus of the film.
Woody harrelson would be my choice
Expect someone out of left field. Besides, Charlie may not be a character in the film at all. Just a presence.
I’d suggest Emile Hirsch, though.
It seems it’s come down to Paramount, Sony and Warner Bros. in the bidding war:
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/quentin-tarantino-film-bidding-manson-1202614085/
Rather hilariously, Warner Bros. adorned their administration building with 60s memorabilia on the day of their meeting with Tarantino.
David Hayman has boarded the film as its main producer and I got to imagine it’ll give WB the edge, given his history as the Harry Potter producer.
It’s been confirmed that the film isn’t specifically about Manson, rather the whole of 1969. Someone compared the structure to Pulp Fiction so I guess that means interlinked stories dealing with the acts. There are two male leads, we know Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt were contacted but, now, also Tom Cruise (http://collider.com/quentin-tarantino-next-movie-tom-cruise/). Margot Robbie is still QT’s choice to play Sharon Tate, Jennifer Lawrence is being eyed for a different part (suspected to be one of Manson’s girls).
Cobpyth
11-14-17, 06:54 PM
I have no idea which direction this film will take. Extremely curious!
Shaping up to be very interesting.
I love the idea of Cruise working Tarantino. He’s disappearing into his own perception and this could be project to pull him out. Guy can be brilliant.
Definitely prefer this to a full on Manson film from Tarantino.
Elessar
11-14-17, 07:01 PM
I would want Viggo Mortensen to star as the main character, considering that there was (solid) rumors about him in the last Tarantino movie. But Tom Cruise is a good choice too. I think his acting is more edgy and more natural than both Leo and Pitt. (I'm actually a fan of Pitt and not of Tom, but I have to say it objectively.)
Cobpyth
11-14-17, 07:12 PM
You need stylized acting in a Tarantino film and I think Leo and Pitt have been brilliant at that when they worked with Quentin in the past. Tom could no doubt pull it off as well, though.
matt72582
11-14-17, 08:00 PM
I wonder if Tom Cruise tries to convince everyone to join the Moonies.
mattiasflgrtll6
11-14-17, 08:43 PM
I'm way more excited for this than Kill Bill 3. I loved Kill Bill Vol. 1, but the second one wasn't nearly as good. I actually liked The Hateful Eight, but I'm glad he's trying something really different for him. Can't freaking wait!
mojofilter
11-14-17, 11:02 PM
Tom Cruise in a Tarantino movie. With Brad Pitt, Sam Jackson, and Leo DiCaprio possibly joining the cast...
Now, we're talking!
Bring it on, QT!
Hmm...
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-charles-manson-hospitalized-20171115-story.html
Like 90% of that guys life has been in institutions, most of his childhood was spent in reform schools and youth prisons. Good riddance if he does die but still what a horrible existence.
His wiki has a mugshot from this August apparently - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
Timely.
Plot details and other info, per Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/quentin-tarantino-harvey-weinstein-sony-manson-movie) (Sony won the bidding war).
”Set in Los Angeles in the summer of 1969, Tarantino’s upcoming movie, according to a source who read the script, focuses on a male TV actor who’s had one hit series and his looking for a way to get into the film business. His sidekick—who’s also his stunt double—is looking for the same thing. The horrific murder of Sharon Tate and four of her friends by Charles Manson’s cult of followers serves as a backdrop to the main story.”
I'm guessing the main tv actor character will encounter Manson and his followers, probably take lsd with them and have sex with some of the girls or whatever. Has it actually been confirmed that Manson is in it? You could make this film without him since he wasn't there for the Tate-La Bianca killings. Think he probably is but haven't seen it confirmed by anyone involved with the film unless i've missed it.
FromBeyond
11-22-17, 01:34 PM
Tom Cruise in a Tarantino movie. With Brad Pitt, Sam Jackson, and Leo DiCaprio possibly joining the cast...
Now, we're talking!
Bring it on, QT!
That would be interesting, I don't think Brad Pitt like's Tom Cruise.. and didn't want to work with him again after interview with a vampire reportedly saying I'm the type of guy you bump into, Tom's the type of guy that bumps into you... I totally get that but I imagine if anybody could bring them together it would be QT
Release date is August 9th, 2019. 50 years after the fact.
It’s rumored the movie will also be titled “9th”.
Cobpyth
12-01-17, 09:58 PM
Release date is August 9th, 2019. 50 years after the fact.
It’s rumored the movie will also be titled “9th”.
Would be a lame title.
mojofilter
12-04-17, 01:17 PM
#9 is just the working title, because it's Tarantino's 9th movie. Kinda makes sense, right?
Anyways, here's the official press release regarding the movie's release date set for August 9, 2019.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/906743-the-ninth-quentin-tarantino-movie-will-hit-theaters-in-august-2019
December 1, 2017
Variety (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/quentin-tarantino-manson-film-1202628252/) reports that the ninth Quentin Tarantino movie will be released by Sony Pictures (http://www.sonypictures.com) on August 9, 2019. The other film scheduled for that date is Disney’s Artemis Fowl (http://www.comingsoon.net/movie/artemis-fowl-2019).
The release date will mark the 50th anniversary of the murder of Sharon Tate (http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/actress-sharon-tate-found-murdered) and four others on August 9, 1969.
The film is an ensemble with Tarantino reportedly having been in talks with Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Margot Robbie, and Jennifer Lawrence for potential roles in the film. It remains to be seen who will be cast in the film in the end, but Tarantino is gearing up for another major ensemble piece.
The film, whose working title is #9 (referencing Tarantino’s ninth feature film as director), will be set in Los Angeles and will likely shoot in the summer of 2018. Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/quentin-tarantino-harvey-weinstein-sony-manson-movie) previously revealed the first plot details for the set-in-1969 movie from a source that has read the script:
“Set in Los Angeles in the summer of 1969, Tarantino’s upcoming movie focuses on a male TV actor who’s had one hit series and his looking for a way to get into the film business. His sidekick—who’s also his stunt double—is looking for the same thing. The horrific murder of Sharon Tate and four of her friends by Charles Manson’s cult of followers serves as a backdrop to the main story.”
Sources also have compared the film to Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction while noting it will have a budget in the range of Django Unchained, which had a $100-million budget but grossed over $425 million at the global box office.
The Variety announcement:
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/quentin-tarantino-manson-film-1202628252/
Quentin Tarantino (http://variety.com/t/quentin-tarantino/)’s still-untitled ninth film has a release date. The “Pulp Fiction” director’s latest will hit theaters on Aug. 9, 2019, Variety has learned. Opening on 50th anniversary of the day the Manson family committed the LaBianca murders and the day after actress Sharon Tate was killed, the film will head off against “Artemis Fowl,” Disney’s adaptation of the popular sci-fi and fantasy series.
Sony is distributing Tarantino’s next picture. The studio beat out several bidders, including Warner Bros. and Paramount, for rights to the film. It’s being shrouded in secrecy, but is set in 1969 and is believed to involve Charles Manson and the Manson family murders. The director has told media outlets that it’s not a biopic, but is an ensemble film set during the tumultuous time period. It’s the first film that Tarantino is releasing without the Weinstein Company. The indie studio is on the verge of bankruptcy following sexual harassment allegations against its founder Harvey Weinstein.
Tarantino is reportedly looking at several big actors to round out his cast, including Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, and Margot Robbie. “Harry Potter” franchise guru David Heyman is producing the picture.
Tarantino’s films include “The Hateful Eight,” “Jackie Brown,” and “Inglourious Basterds.” Although the Weinsteins released those pictures, Sony did handle the international roll out for “Django Unchained.” Last month, Tarantino snagged an $18-million California film tax credit. Production is scheduled to begin next year.
The Aug. 9, 2019, date will mark the 50th anniversary of the murders of Sharon Tate and four other people in Los Angeles. Manson directed his followers to kill the 26-year-old Tate — who was pregnant and married to director Roman Polanski (http://variety.com/t/roman-polanski/) — and the others at the home she was renting in the Benedict Canyon area of Los Angeles.
Polanski was out of the country at the time of the Cielo Drive killings. The other victims were celebrity hair stylist Jay Sebring, 35; Voytek Frykowski, 32; coffee heiress Abigail Folger, 25; and Steven Parent, 18, a friend of Tate’s caretaker.
That would be interesting, I don't think Brad Pitt like's Tom Cruise.. and didn't want to work with him again after interview with a vampire reportedly saying I'm the type of guy you bump into, Tom's the type of guy that bumps into you... I totally get that but I imagine if anybody could bring them together it would be QT
Did he actually say that because he seems pretty quiet ? the comment he made (out of context ofcourse) just seems like muckabout stuff. I'd have to read the rest, but sshhhhh dont really care about tom mcshorty
*runs away not terrified of scientology*
Brad had an infamously s**tty time making Interview with the Vampire so, y’know, make of that what you will.
Brad had an infamously s**tty time making Interview with the Vampire so, y’know, make of that what you will.
I dont recall. He looked pretty pissed off is all I can say.
Leo’s in:
http://deadline.com/2018/01/leonardo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantino-manson-movie-casting-1202241971/
He’ll play “an aging tv actor (huh?) trying to break into film.”
There’s a rumor going around that there’s a role written specifically for Pacino in this.
Electricmastro
01-12-18, 05:18 PM
I've just consciously realized how many high-profile directors DiCaprio has gotten the privilege to work with over the last 20 years: James Cameron, Danny Boyle, Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg, Edward Zwick, Ridley Scott, Sam Mendes, Christopher Nolan, Clint Eastwood, Alejandro G. Iñárritu, and now he's working with Quentin Tarantino once again. It's quite impressive how he has managed to rise up to the position he's currently at in such a relatively short amount of time.
mojofilter
01-12-18, 07:22 PM
Report says that both Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise are circling the project over two meaty male roles. Now imagine if they all end up in this movie:
Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Pacino, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt. I assume Samuel Jackson will have some role in the movie, too.
Wow! That is one helluva cast!
Great casts like that often end up awkward since they all need to have some memorable role so that makes me nervous more than anything.
I heard Pitt had officially passed. Margot Robbie’s response to the offer of playing Sharon Tate is pending.
FromBeyond
01-12-18, 08:24 PM
Great casts like that often end up awkward since they all need to have some memorable role so that makes me nervous more than anything.
Yeah but come on, lot's of memorable roles it's what Tarantino is good at and don't need to be big parts, look at True Romance.. Hopper, Walken, Oldman all renowned actors given barely 5 minutes screen time.. but unforgettable.
Cobpyth
01-12-18, 08:34 PM
Leo’s in:
http://deadline.com/2018/01/leonardo-dicaprio-quentin-tarantino-manson-movie-casting-1202241971/
He’ll play “an aging tv actor (huh?) trying to break into film.”
So Leo's playing the leading role then, if I understand correctly?
I guess it might be easier now to get Margot Robbie as well, as she's already shined with Leo before in The Wolf of Wall Street. I hope she will be a part of this as well. She's a gorgeous actress.
I'm excited! I have no idea what Tarantino is up to with this concept. One year and and seven months to go!
Great casts like that often end up awkward since they all need to have some memorable role so that makes me nervous more than anything.
"Look at me."
"No, look at me motherf*cka*
"How about you look at ME!"
Henchman
01-13-18, 09:07 AM
Very excited for this one.
DiCaprio finally will start working on a film
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/969018012475928576
“Do you know anything about an actor going around auditioning for movies? He's someone you'd remember. Instead of talking, he acts. And when he better act, he talks.”
Really looking forward to this.
Sounds like an awful sitcom:
Tarantino describes it as "a story that takes place in Los Angeles in 1969, at the height of hippy Hollywood. The two lead characters are Rick Dalton (Leonardo DiCaprio), former star of a western TV series, and his longtime stunt double Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt). Both are struggling to make it in a Hollywood they don’t recognize anymore. But Rick has a very famous next-door neighbor…Sharon Tate."
Thursday Next
03-01-18, 02:51 AM
Sounds awful full stop.
Mr Minio
03-01-18, 02:53 AM
Sounds pretty generic. The film will mainly focus on these two guys trying to make it in Hollywood with all these Tarantinian shenanigans and kind of humour, and then the Sharon Tate subplot will involve them somehow, and the incident will change their lives/worldview/attitude. Tarantino will not show the Manson Family murders and will be praised by critics for not resorting to mindless exploitation, and respecting the dead.
Henchman
03-05-18, 12:03 PM
Sounds great
Cobpyth
03-05-18, 12:59 PM
In Quentin we trust!
mojofilter
03-05-18, 01:52 PM
I haven't seen a link to the report confirming the movie's title and the casting of Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt, as well as Margot Robbie, so here it is:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/quentin-tarantino-taps-brad-pitt-to-join-leonardo-dicaprio-in-%e2%80%98once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood%e2%80%99/ar-BBJIu3t?li=BBnbfcL
Casting news!
Burt Reynolds, Kurt Russell, Tim Roth and Michael Madden will play “small roles.”
http://deadline.com/2018/05/quentin-tarantino-burt-reynolds-george-spahn-manson-ranch-owner-tim-roth-kurt-russell-michael-madsen-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-sony-1202385014/
Reynolds will play George Spahn.
Spahn was an 80-year old near blind man who rented his LA ranch out to be used as the location for Westerns. Charlie Manson convinced Spahn to allow him and his followers to live on the ranch, in the months before they murdered Sharon Tate and six others. In exchange for rent, Manson coerced his female followers into hopping into bed with the ranch owner, and serving as his seeing eye guides, per reports.
https://image.ibb.co/b97kpS/3_CB44_FF4_FAC6_43_D9_ACDA_0_B369_EBD73_E4.jpg
aronisred
05-08-18, 02:50 PM
Casting news!
Burt Reynolds, Kurt Russell, Tim Roth and Michael Madden will play “small roles.”
http://deadline.com/2018/05/quentin-tarantino-burt-reynolds-george-spahn-manson-ranch-owner-tim-roth-kurt-russell-michael-madsen-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-sony-1202385014/
Reynolds will play George Spahn.
https://image.ibb.co/b97kpS/3_CB44_FF4_FAC6_43_D9_ACDA_0_B369_EBD73_E4.jpg
I expect them especially burt reynolds to steal the show from pitt/dicaprio...burt is a highly underrated actor.
Timothy Olyphant (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/timothy-olyphant-talks-join-quentin-tarantinos-manson-movie-1111115) <3
TheUsualSuspect
05-11-18, 02:12 PM
Timothy Olyphant (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/timothy-olyphant-talks-join-quentin-tarantinos-manson-movie-1111115) <3
Wicked cast if this holds up. I'm a big Olyphant fan and would love to see him work with Tarantino.
aronisred
05-11-18, 02:15 PM
Timothy Olyphant (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/timothy-olyphant-talks-join-quentin-tarantinos-manson-movie-1111115) <3
this guy getting his due..he has that sleazy movie star look to him..fits right in like Walton gaggins in hateful eight
Theory: Olyphant is a bit of meta casting and he’s playing a Clint Eastwood analogue, as in a western tv show actor who struck gold and is set to turn into a movie star, while Leo, ironically, plays the co-star who never caught a break...
Nah, that’s too aron...
aronisred
05-11-18, 02:48 PM
Theory: Olyphant is a bit of meta casting and he’s playing a Clint Eastwood analogue, as in a western tv show actor who struck gold and is set to turn into a movie star, while Leo, ironically, plays the co-star who never caught a break...
Nah, that’s too aron...
really ? i am verb now
here is what i think
Quentin tarantino has history of hiring A list movie stars to secure budget for his movies..bruce willis in pulp fiction,brad pitt in basterds and dicaprio in django and channing tatum in hateful...but the real meaty roles go to non-huge stars like christoph waltz,samuel l jackson in pulp fiction or john travolta whose career was dwidling at that point or walton goggins or samuel l jackson in hateful..now i think its timothy and burt reynolds that will steal the show from the rest. Add de niro to that in jackie brown.
Omg.
https://deadline.com/2018/06/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-damian-lewis-luke-perry-dakota-fanning-cast-1202405007/
The more interesting tidbits here are that Damian Lewis will play Steve McQueen (yes, that Steve McQueen), Dakota Fanning is Squeaky Fromme, one of Manson’s disciples who later tried to kill Gerald Ford and Emile Hirsch (one of my suggestions to play Manson himself) is Jay Sebring, a hair stylist and one of the murder victims.
Oh, and apparently Quentin is looking for someone to play Bruce Lee.
Edit: Al Pacino will play Leo’s agent.
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/al-pacino-quentin-tarantino-manson-movie-1202826780/
The Rodent
06-06-18, 07:43 PM
Oh, and apparently Quentin is looking for someone to play Bruce Lee.
Abbas Alizada
http://blogs.dunyanews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/x11161347_440145976158189_2489321239939811106_n.jpg.pagespeed.ic.mwy8nqUTno.jpg (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwii16yWjsDbAhWB0RQKHcBxBOgQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theapricity.com%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3F235180-Classify-Abbas-Alizada-the-afghan-Bruce-Lee&psig=AOvVaw3nUBusb2MlQ5U2_xgf2cdY&ust=1528411361605722)
And here's a comparison shot
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J2Y58xObr84/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiGo4SjjsDbAhWI8RQKHTu3AJ8QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJ2Y58xObr84&psig=AOvVaw3nUBusb2MlQ5U2_xgf2cdY&ust=1528411361605722)
Sir Toose
06-08-18, 11:53 PM
Tarantino taking this on isn't something I'm looking forward to.
He's brilliant - don't get me wrong... but... my least favorites are the ones where he rubs his particular charm all over historical events. Inglorious was entertaining, had nothing to do with the war other than the costumes. Same can be said for Django & slavery.
He's best when the stories are his own and he's not mucking about in fact based story lines. Guaranteed he's going to take the Bugliosi angle on this and work from there.
mojofilter
06-27-18, 11:25 AM
Leonardo DiCaprio just shared a first look image from the set of the movie on his Instagram. It's of him and Brad Pitt in character.
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/OlfiF_9OozrlPVQ2PL17sw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/homerun/the_telegraph_818/ff8b0769f66c3f6be12e68b369a10bc2
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/leonardo-dicaprio-instragams-first-image-140644501.html
mojofilter
06-27-18, 11:28 AM
The confirmed cast of the movie are Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, Kurt Russell, Burt Reynolds, Tim Roth, Michael Madsen, Zoe Bell, and Margot Robbie. Al Pacino has also joined the cast. That's not to mention Timothy Olyphant, Emile Hirsch, Dakota Fanning, Luke Perry among others.
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.um9D90aGMKZyhwJdEiqU4wHaJM&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/OlfiF_9OozrlPVQ2PL17sw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/homerun/the_telegraph_818/ff8b0769f66c3f6be12e68b369a10bc2
Allow me to state the obvious.
https://image.ibb.co/eqwyQT/30779622_F416_4955_B2_D6_40_B52_E0_AFF4_B.jpg
The confirmed cast of the movie
There was a table read recently with Leo, Pitt, Robbie, Pacino and Fanning so I guess they have the most prominent roles.
aronisred
06-29-18, 11:09 AM
Tarantino taking this on isn't something I'm looking forward to.
He's brilliant - don't get me wrong... but... my least favorites are the ones where he rubs his particular charm all over historical events. Inglorious was entertaining, had nothing to do with the war other than the costumes. Same can be said for Django & slavery.
He's best when the stories are his own and he's not mucking about in fact based story lines. Guaranteed he's going to take the Bugliosi angle on this and work from there.
who said that he is taking Bugliosi's angle
aronisred
06-29-18, 11:24 AM
I think tim roth is playing manson...they are not giving it away as to whom they cast as manson IMO...
GulfportDoc
07-09-18, 08:34 PM
I'm going to let y'all watch the movie first, then get your impressions. Q.T. has a fetish for violence, so you can be sure he'll dwell on the gruesome murders of Sharon Tate and others in Benedict Canyon-- as if that's all that was important in 1969.
If it's not overly explicit and drawn out, I'll check it out. The movie is guaranteed to make $100s of millions, so they wouldn't miss my $10...:D
~Doc
Sir Toose
07-11-18, 12:32 AM
who said that he is taking Bugliosi's angle
Strange comment friend. I don't think anyone has said that - I was speculating.
doubledenim
08-07-18, 04:33 AM
For the integrity of this thread, ICB no one posted this yesterday. :eek:
https://i.imgur.com/2fVa1QY.png
doubledenim
08-07-18, 06:49 AM
I always thought Jessica Alba in Idle Hands was the end-all-be-all of an angel.
mojofilter
08-07-18, 02:53 PM
Margot Robbie is looking hot as hell as Shannon Tate. Grrrr
Lena Dunham (hmm?), Austin Butler, Maya Hawke (Uma Thurman’s daughter (hmm...)) and Lorenza Izzo just joined the cast.
https://deadline.com/2018/08/lena-dunham-austin-butler-maya-hawke-lorenza-izzo-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-1202450671/
Lena Dunham? Yikes. How does that woman get work?
Oh, and so is The Love Witch’s Samantha Robinson as Abigail Folger of that Folger family and one of the murder victims.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/3f5696c68c8d19d5d03d7ad18b12eb8b/tumblr_olcju0OCSO1vyvg1co1_540.gif
Charles Manson and Roman Polanski have been cast:
https://www.thewrap.com/charles-manson-damon-herriman-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-time-hollywood-rumer-willis/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/danny-strong-sydney-sweeney-join-once-a-time-hollywood-1129521
Damon Herriman (Dewey Crowe from Justified) will play Manson and Polish actor Rafal Zawierucha will play Polanski, the latter is supposedly the smaller of the two roles.
https://image.ibb.co/b8TPdU/3_E178155_D4_A1_44_B4_B879_C94872428872.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/k2e859/582_D5452_EFEC_4_B9_B_81_A8_9_E311_C72_E6_DB.jpg
In addition Rumer Willis (as actress Joanna Pettet), Margaret Qualley, Danny Strong, Clu Gulager, Dreama Walker (as actress/singer Connie Stevens), Sydney Sweeney, Costa Ronin (Polish actor Voytek Frykowski, one of the victims), Victoria Pedretti, Madisen Beaty, James Landry Hébert and Mikey Madison have joined the cast.
Jeez.
Dewey Crowe is one of the best characters in Justified, not sure how he'll do as Manson but i'm fine with that.
Cobpyth
09-04-18, 09:10 AM
Oh, and so is The Love Witch’s Samantha Robinson as Abigail Folger of that Folger family and one of the murder victims.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/3f5696c68c8d19d5d03d7ad18b12eb8b/tumblr_olcju0OCSO1vyvg1co1_540.gif
Her part probably won't be that significant, but that's awesome!
Bruce Dern replaces Reynolds.
https://deadline.com/2018/09/bruce-dern-replaces-burt-reynolds-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-1202471986/
mojofilter
09-27-18, 05:31 PM
Bruce Dern replaces Reynolds.
https://deadline.com/2018/09/bruce-dern-replaces-burt-reynolds-quentin-tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-1202471986/
Bruce Dern will play the part very well, but it's a bummer we will never get to see Burt in a Tarantino movie.
mojofilter
11-09-18, 03:51 PM
Pics from the set of the movie
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqYA40pXcAAr0YW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqY_KljWkAE_UUJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqaCVSBWwAE5y19.jpg
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrEn-DkWwAAgmv3.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq3CQHhWsAA005b.jpg
The Rodent
11-09-18, 03:54 PM
Is it me, or is DiCaprio looking more and more like Christopher Nolan every day?
aronisred
11-09-18, 04:05 PM
Is it me, or is DiCaprio looking more and more like Christopher Nolan every day?
nope...chris nolan has man's face...dicaprio looks like a cross between baby face and jack nicholson. His face stores water like crazy
The Rodent
11-09-18, 04:07 PM
Leonardo DiCamelHumprio
aronisred
11-09-18, 05:33 PM
Leonardo DiCamelHumprio
to be honest he will look ugly when he gets tom cruise's age. His face will look like a weird mix of old man and baby add to that his skull size is increasing with age
Is it me, or is DiCaprio looking more and more like Christopher Nolan every day?
Hey, guys, I think Inception might be a parable for filmmaking.
Cobpyth
11-10-18, 01:29 PM
Pictures look great. Extremely excited for this one!
There will be lots of people in this. All sorts of people! Characters, and such.
mattiasflgrtll6
11-11-18, 01:34 PM
Weird to see no pics of Al Pacino yet, but I'm very excited to see what he'll get to do in the movie.
https://i.imgur.com/Uqa9Siq.jpg
Edited with image descriptions.
https://i.imgur.com/qG6Qyj7.jpg
DiCaprio as Rick Dalton on the set of “The FBI.”
https://i.imgur.com/GpJumYR.jpg
Margot Robbie as Sharon Tate dancing in her apartment.
https://i.imgur.com/sYq8AGK.jpg
Pitt as Cliff Booth.
https://i.ibb.co/ZfKqksD/F04742-C1-9-CB0-41-FB-9-A88-835-F54-E293-F0.jpg
Tarantino directing Leo on the set of his character’s western tv show.
Cobpyth
01-25-19, 11:44 AM
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Cobpyth
01-25-19, 01:21 PM
And some more:
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https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1088848242576478208
mojofilter
01-26-19, 11:09 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/81627
MollyFlanders
01-26-19, 07:51 PM
I think Margot Robbie was a terrible choice to play Sharon Tate. That woman can't act . Same mannerisms in every movie.
mojofilter
03-05-19, 09:57 AM
Luke Perry, the 90's teen heartthrob who passed away yesterday at 52, has a small part in the film, that as 60's TV actor Wayne Maunder. As it turned out, it will be his final acting performance.
TheUsualSuspect
03-05-19, 11:16 AM
I think Margot Robbie was a terrible choice to play Sharon Tate. That woman can't act . Same mannerisms in every movie.
Completely disagree. She is talented and I look forward to her movies.
GulfportDoc
03-05-19, 08:08 PM
I think Margot Robbie was a terrible choice to play Sharon Tate. That woman can't act . Same mannerisms in every movie.
It may not make much difference. The Tate character may only be in the film so as to be stabbed and mutilated. This is Tarantino, after all..;)
to be honest he will look ugly when he gets tom cruise's age. His face will look like a weird mix of old man and baby add to that his skull size is increasing with age
Your hatred is based on?
Kind of an ugly way ya got there
mattiasflgrtll6
03-05-19, 10:00 PM
Trust me, you do not want to feed aronisred's hateboner for Leonardo Dicaprio. Once he starts rambling, he never stops...
Iroquois
03-06-19, 03:55 AM
What if he were to come to a...different understanding?
TheUsualSuspect
03-18-19, 11:31 AM
https://i.redd.it/ujarp7itivm21.jpg
TheUsualSuspect
03-18-19, 11:32 AM
I could do without the "countdown" of how many films he's done.
Pitt's face clearly a photoshop job.
It feels very, Un-Tarantino.
Iroquois
03-18-19, 12:02 PM
Gotta remind people that he's quitting at 10 somehow.
MovieMeditation
03-18-19, 12:13 PM
Gotta remind people that he's quitting at 10 somehow.
He’s always had this weird thing with “the new film by Quentin Tarantino”, “the 4th film by Quentin Tarantino” etc. The latter was even in the very first draft that he read for Robert Rodriguez and he said that out loud to like he was very proud of it. So I guess that’s just a QT thing...
Iroquois
03-18-19, 12:17 PM
Sounds about right. I gotta admit it was put to good use when referring to Hateful Eight as his eighth film.
Part of it is that Tarantino, rather than the premise or even the stars, is usually the draw.
mojofilter
03-18-19, 03:55 PM
Part of it is that Tarantino, rather than the premise or even the stars, is usually the draw.
And rightfully so...people go to see Quentin's movies for Quentin. The actors in the film are like a side order to the main dish, the main dish being QT of course.
That poster looks really basic, and not Tarantino-esque in the slightest. But I'm still super-excited!
doubledenim
03-18-19, 04:49 PM
That poster makes them look like contemporaries.
mattiasflgrtll6
03-18-19, 04:50 PM
Early promotional posters are usually pretty bland, I'm sure there will be a much better-looking one closer to the premiere.
ironpony
03-18-19, 08:05 PM
Do you think that some of Tarantino's movies would have a bigger impact if they were not period piece movies? I feel that if Inglorious Basterds were set during the more modern war in Iraq when it came out, it would have had an even bigger impact than setting it in WWII. Or if Django Unchained took place in a modern setting where slavery still existed, then it would have had a bigger impact than the American western. Unless I'm wrong?
doubledenim
03-19-19, 02:07 AM
Pretty sure they had as big of an impact that potty-mouth, hyper-violent, filth-flarn-filth films can have. Not sure of any collection of "risque" movies has seen as much success.
TheUsualSuspect
03-19-19, 02:13 PM
https://i.redd.it/1ttd3s9tn2n21.jpg
TheUsualSuspect
03-20-19, 10:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMrIOUQKXCM
mojofilter
03-20-19, 11:12 AM
I'm loving the trailer!! This is going to be kick ass! The guy playing Bruce Lee is SPOT ON!
ironpony
03-20-19, 12:03 PM
This actually looks like Tarantino's best movie. Especially from the previews cause when you watch previews for his other movies, the previews make the movies like much more cheesy than they are when you see them later, but not this one!
Iroquois
03-20-19, 12:07 PM
Not so fussed about the trailer (especially in comparison to the ones for his last few movies), but at least they're keeping it lean on plot...for now. Sony strikes me as one of those companies that could well end up spoiling much more of this than I'd like to know.
MovieMeditation
03-20-19, 12:17 PM
It does what it should. A teaser trailer that just gives you a little bit of the style, the approach, the characters and so forth. But not much plot or anything. That's cool.
This could be the movie many QT fans have been waiting for. A more Pulp Fictionesque approach than what he has done lately...
I'm definitely excited. But I was that before the trailer also so......
The guy playing Bruce Lee is SPOT ON!
Was just about to reply to say exactly this. He's got his talking style down.
mojofilter
03-20-19, 01:16 PM
I would have loved to see Al Pacino in the teaser trailer. He will definitely make an appearance in the Official Trailer.
I predict this movie will be getting so many award nominations next award season.
Also, does everybody realize that this is DiCaprio's first movie since winning the Oscar for The Revenant 3 years ago?
Iroquois
03-20-19, 01:19 PM
Not counting his climate change documentary, I guess.
Miss Vicky
03-20-19, 01:31 PM
I already knew I was going to watch it because Leo, but it looks like it's going to be fun.
ironpony
03-20-19, 01:33 PM
I feel that teaser trailers hold back too much and should give more away, where as the official trailers are often too long and give away too much. I think they should go back to making trailers that are in between the two, like they did in the 90s before.
Iroquois
03-20-19, 01:39 PM
Yeah, but where exactly do you strike that balance between not enough and too much? What would you cite as a good example of such a trailer anyway?
ironpony
03-20-19, 01:50 PM
Hmmm, not sure where they strike the balance, but what about 90s trailers, like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vg8uGzLts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cH8w0Cl_-k
I want a trailer to tell me almost nothing about the film's developments, and I don't want it to show me most of its best lines, either. I want a premise, and a mood/vibe that gives me an idea of whether I'll like it (not necessary for a QT film, really, though) without telling me anything specific. This satisfies most of those criteria pretty well.
Trailers like I'm describing are increasingly rare, though. I'm convinced I enjoy Nolan's films moderately more than I would because his trailers almost never make the usual trailer mistakes.
ironpony
03-20-19, 02:06 PM
What about a trailer like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdjDtlK3uQ
They don't show anything in the 3rd act pretty much, which is probably good, but they show perhaps too much of the first act, so is that bad, when too much of the first is shown, to the point where it's 'yeah, we get it', compared to the rest?
mojofilter
03-20-19, 05:15 PM
Not counting his climate change documentary, I guess.
I said his first movie. Documentaries are not movies, unless they are made by Michael Moore :)
mojofilter
03-20-19, 05:17 PM
I want a trailer to tell me almost nothing about the film's developments, and I don't want it to show me most of its best lines, either. I want a premise, and a mood/vibe that gives me an idea of whether I'll like it (not necessary for a QT film, really, though) without telling me anything specific. This satisfies most of those criteria pretty well.
Trailers like I'm describing are increasingly rare, though. I'm convinced I enjoy Nolan's films moderately more than I would because his trailers almost never make the usual trailer mistakes.
I agree. Wouldn't it be great if trailers show you the most boring scenes and the lamest pieces of dialogue in the film and save all the good parts for when you go actually see the movie? Let the audience go in with low expectations and then surprise the hell out of them :D
mattiasflgrtll6
03-21-19, 12:09 AM
Then I assume The Emoji Movie must be fantastic since the trailer had boring scenes and lame pieces of dialogue.
Daniel M
03-21-19, 03:51 PM
I'm thinking this film's gonna be like Pulp Fiction meets Inglourious Bastards. DiCaprio and Pitt are today's Jules and Vincent, just walking around, having fun with some hilarious dialogue. Then Margot Robbie is Uma Thurman, sexy, seductive and with a dark side. I don't anticipate much of a plot, but like Bastards the storylines of the different characters will converge into one location (the dinner party) and then we get Tarantino's alternative version of history, lots of blood included of course.
Just watched the trailer....what the hell thought this was going to be about Manson. Completely thrown me, have No idea what the genre is too.
MovieMeditation
04-02-19, 06:53 AM
Just watched the trailer....what the hell thought this was going to be about Manson. Completely thrown me, have No idea what the genre is too.
It’s the public that has hyped it up to be about Manson. It was never about the Manson’s.
The Manson’s are in it but they just a small part of it. I think as soon as people heard the name “Manson” they talked it up to this big thing. I think the Manson’s will be as big a part of this as Hitler was in Inglourious Basterds... so not too much.
This movie seems to be a Pulp Ficiton / Inglourious Basterds style film to me.
Just watched the trailer....what the hell thought this was going to be about Manson. Completely thrown me, have No idea what the genre is too.
It’s the public that has hyped it up to be about Manson. It was never about the Manson’s.
The Manson’s are in it but they just a small part of it. I think as soon as people heard the name “Manson” they talked it up to this big thing. I think the Manson’s will be as big a part of this as Hitler was in Inglourious Basterds... so not too much.
This movie seems to be a Pulp Ficiton / Inglourious Basterds style film to me.
Yea that’s a shame - it’s an interesting topic. You could be right but I don’t see the setting for ultra violence but it’s Tarantino so assume he’ll find it. Interesting that he’s exploring a stunt double again.
ironpony
04-05-19, 02:12 AM
I'm not surprised if this movie doesn't turn out to be controversial, Tarantino seems to want to stay away from too much controversy, which is why he seems to pick historical setttings, cause that plays it more safe.
mojofilter
05-15-19, 09:49 AM
There's going to be a movie within the movie called "Il Gringo" starring DiCaprio's character.
Here's the poster. No surprise it's a spaghetti western, a genre Tarantino is famously in love with.
https://media.aintitcool.com/media/_versions/2019/dannie_2.0/ilgringo1_large.jpg
MovieMeditation
05-21-19, 12:21 PM
New full-length trailer is here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELeMaP8EPAA
And it makes more sense to me now, why QT published that letter about not giving away spoilers when you see it. Because even after this trailer, it's still not 100% obvious what the movie is about, plot-wise, and what is going to happen...
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05-21-19, 12:50 PM
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Gangland
05-21-19, 01:01 PM
I love the feaux posters (https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3562081/tarantinos-upon-time-hollywood-channels-past-two-posters-faux-movies/?fbclid=IwAR3N_anO15WYTFrMHLKo-MYmkwjYQbRm8W9lx7YuICURdN4PqvOR9Vn4W2I) because they represent a washed up American Western actor slumming it in Italian Spaghetti Westerns and poliziotteschi films.
This new trailer is amazing. Tarantino trailer + Neil Diamond's "Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show" + Charles Manson = Best Movie of the Year.
mojofilter
05-22-19, 09:36 AM
I'm loving the new trailer!
Best bits in it to me are: Leo killing a bunch of Nazis with a flame thrower, Bruce Lee, Charles Manson.
This might end up becoming one of the top 3 Tarantino films ever.
Iroquois
05-22-19, 10:13 AM
Word out of Cannes is sounding pretty positive to boot. I'm not sure my expectations can get much higher.
GulfportDoc
05-22-19, 10:31 AM
What do you suppose the "over & under" line will be for the screen time Tarantino devotes to the gory, brutal and sickening Tate/LaBianca murders?
Let's see: 6 murders over 2 days. If 1 minute is assigned for each, plus 2 minutes travel time between residences; I'll guess 8 minutes. Actually, the "over" is probably a better bet...
Margot Robbie is going to earn her money in this one.
~Doc
mojofilter
05-22-19, 10:50 AM
What do you suppose the "over & under" line will be for the screen time Tarantino devotes to the gory, brutal and sickening Tate/LaBianca murders?
Let's see: 6 murders over 2 days. If 1 minute is assigned for each, plus 2 minutes travel time between residences; I'll guess 8 minutes. Actually, the "over" is probably a better bet...
Margot Robbie is going to earn her money in this one.
~Doc
I think Robbie will not only earn her money, but an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, too.
mojofilter
05-22-19, 11:28 AM
The movie already has a 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes with 31 critic reviews in.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/once_upon_a_time_in_hollywood
Iroquois
05-22-19, 11:57 AM
The review on BirthMoviesDeath says she's not in it as much as we've been led to believe by the ad campaign where she's third-billed behind DiCaprio and Pitt, so you never know. It seems like it might be the kind of movie where those two guys are the only constant presences while everyone else shows up for one or two scenes.
mojofilter
05-23-19, 11:47 AM
Press Conference at the Cannes Film Festival with Tarantino, DiCaprio, Pitt, and Robbie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIlsmK_FqFM
ironpony
07-24-19, 09:34 PM
In the trailer it says that it's Trarantino's 9th film. But I thought this was his tenth? Am I counting wrong?
I assume he's counting Kill Bill as one.
ironpony
07-24-19, 09:44 PM
Oh okay. I remember he said he didn't like Death Proof way back so I thought maybe he was discounting that one as a result maybe.
Heh, total coincidence I happened to just see this:
https://twitter.com/stevensantos/status/1154194323224662016
MovieBuffering
07-24-19, 11:37 PM
In the trailer it says that it's Trarantino's 9th film. But I thought this was his tenth? Am I counting wrong?
Said he was only going do 10. Seems to be really wanting to do a Star Trek movie which seems like a paradox. Tarantino directing a franchise movie. Must have grown up with the show.
Anyways he said he was out after his 10th movie. But seem to be open to a loophole of not counting a Star Trek movie in those 10. Whatever keeps him directing films I am for ha.
TheUsualSuspect
07-25-19, 12:12 AM
His loop hole might involve him writing scripts but not directing them. I know he wants to write novels and stage plays.
Gideon58
07-25-19, 10:46 AM
The IMDB has already rated this film as 9.5...I can count on one hand the number of films they have rated over 9.
Definitely a big recency bias thing with IMDB ratings in general. When something is really good it'll top out-and-out classics on there for awhile.
ironpony
07-28-19, 04:46 AM
I just saw the movie. It was overall good, but I didn't get why the Sharon Tate plot was even in the movie, when she didn't even do anything that contributed to the story it seemed.
SPOILERS
I thought that she was going to end up being one of the victims, since she lived next to the house of the guys that the Manson family broke into, but it turns out they didn't even kill her. So she just becomes a target of them later on, by shear coincidence, that she happened to live next to a previous intended victim? It just felt like a gimmick to include her therefore, especially since she didn't even do anything, accept for go to a party, watch one of her own movies, then go out to dinner six months later, and that's it. So I felt it may have put a damper in the pacing, story wise, but what do you think?
aronisred
07-28-19, 11:10 AM
The IMDB has already rated this film as 9.5...I can count on one hand the number of films they have rated over 9.
sadly those are tarantino and dicaprio fanboys rating it 10s without even seeing the movie. Most of them are european and asian countries. Look at their filmographies. Most of their movies start very high and once general public starts watching the movie the rating drops pretty fast. It has nothing to do with quality of the movie.
aronisred
07-28-19, 11:16 AM
I just saw the movie. It was overall good, but I didn't get why the Sharon Tate plot was even in the movie, when she didn't even do anything that contributed to the story it seemed.
SPOILERS
I thought that she was going to end up being one of the victims, since she lived next to the house of the guys that the Manson family broke into, but it turns out they didn't even kill her. So she just becomes a target of them later on, by shear coincidence, that she happened to live next to a previous intended victim? It just felt like a gimmick to include her therefore, especially since she didn't even do anything, accept for go to a party, watch one of her own movies, then go out to dinner six months later, and that's it. So I felt it may have put a damper in the pacing, story wise, but what do you think?
Watched it twice. I think tarantino treated tate as an angel and didn't wanna touch her rising star either with Manson followers or with Rick and cliff. He wanted her to have a great career without interruptions. That said, all her scenes are stuff tarantino felt intrigued by her life. The scene with Mcqueen proves that. He is used for an exposition dump to tell the peculiar love triangle Tate had in her life. The theater scene was sweet. But it's tarantino obsessing about tate. It's not one of his better movies by a long shot. Definitely not better than Jackie brown.
ironpony
07-28-19, 03:25 PM
Well I just don't get why you want to have a movie with Sharon Tate, and the Manson family as supporting characters, but never have them meet in the plot at all. That's like making a movie about say Lee Harvey Oswald, and have him coincidentally decide to kill John F Kennedy's next door neighbor before moving into the White House, and then just have the movie end right after that, and no plot connection at all between LHO and JFK. Wouldn't that be a randon let down?
ironpony
07-28-19, 05:52 PM
There is also something about the movie that I found really really distracting. Whenever a character inhales a cigarette, they have this loud bacon sizzling sound effect. Now I can understand adding this sound, if you wanted to close up on a cigarette being smoked for a very dramatic moment. But this happens after every cigarette inhale I think, in every scene, even if the scene isn't even dramatic and just casual.
I found this to be a very weird artistic choice, and did anyone else find this distracting?
Citizen Rules
07-28-19, 06:14 PM
There is also something about the movie that I found really really distracting. Whenever a character inhales a cigarette, they have this loud bacon sizzling sound effect. Now I can understand adding this sound, if you wanted to close up on a cigarette being smoked for a very dramatic moment. But this happens after every cigarette inhale I think, in every scene, even if the scene isn't even dramatic and just casual.
I found this to be a very weird artistic choice, and did anyone else find this distracting?That sizzle smoking sound is the new thing. I posted about that in the Current Movie Cliches thread
Sizzling cigarette sounds. I first noticed that in The Crown...Now it's everywhere and it's very distracting. I never smoked but I don't think there's a sound of frying bacon when someone smokes.
ironpony
07-28-19, 06:22 PM
Oh okay, but why would someone like Tarantino give into a new fad like that? He must have had an actually good artistic motive, other than it being a new fad.
Citizen Rules
07-28-19, 06:25 PM
Oh okay, but why would someone like Tarantino give into a new fad like that?... Because he's got kitsch taste and is best at emulating other directors....(IMO) Tarantino is like the guy who use to work at an old VHS movie rental store that somehow got to make movies;)
ironpony
07-28-19, 06:39 PM
But all the movies he is inspired by don't have those sizzling sounds. I don't think he drew any inspiration from the show The Crown, where it seemed to have started based on that cliched mentioning before.
Mingusings
07-28-19, 07:52 PM
Well I just don't get why you want to have a movie with Sharon Tate, and the Manson family as supporting characters, but never have them meet in the plot at all. That's like making a movie about say Lee Harvey Oswald, and have him coincidentally decide to kill John F Kennedy's next door neighbor before moving into the White House, and then just have the movie end right after that, and no plot connection at all between LHO and JFK. Wouldn't that be a randon let down?
SPOILERS BELOW:
It's Tarantino rewriting history, as he did in Inglourious Basterds. He creates a "what if" scenario. What if this Rick Dalton and his stunt double were neighbors with Sharon Tate and Polanski? What if instead of breaking into Sharon's house, the perpetrators broke into Rick's house? I don't think the break-in of Rick Dalton's house takes place before Sharon's murder. Rather it takes place in lieu of Sharon's murder. In Tarantino's version of history, Sharon lives and the Manson family is just some pathetic, stoned group of hippies that broke into a celebrity's house and got their asses whooped by his stunt double.
ironpony
07-28-19, 08:22 PM
Oh okay, but if you are going to rewrite history, than why do more with Sharon Tate, since she had no barring on the rest of the plot? Or do less with her. Have her established as the neighbor but then cut out all her scenes if he going to the party, the dinner and the movie. Those scenes have nothing do with Dalton and Booth, so why include them at all, if Sharon is just an unnecessary character?
But isn't this kind of disrespectful though too, to rewrite it so that a murder victim lived? That would be like making a movie of OJ Simpson but have Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman live at the end, and OJ gets killed instead. Wouldn't that come of ass distasteful in a way?
doubledenim
07-30-19, 12:08 PM
Well I just don't get why you want to have a movie with Sharon Tate, and the Manson family as supporting characters, but never have them meet in the plot at all. That's like making a movie about say Lee Harvey Oswald, and have him coincidentally decide to kill John F Kennedy's next door neighbor before moving into the White House, and then just have the movie end right after that, and no plot connection at all between LHO and JFK. Wouldn't that be a randon let down?
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I don't know his reasoning, but I felt the dread of not wanting to see pregnant Tate get butchered the whole movie. Then to subvert the expectation and not glorify or exploit the tragedy is refreshing.
If you know some backstory of the Manson family before you saw the movie.
The Manson family member he beats, did kill a stuntman on the ranch irl. Knowing that with the way Cliff behaves at the ranch would ratchet the already natural intensity of those scenes even more.
ironpony
07-30-19, 02:29 PM
Oh okay, I guess I just felt that since it happened in real life, no movie that makes it not happen is going to help anything for me I guess.
Citizen Rules
07-30-19, 02:38 PM
Oh okay, I guess I just felt that since it happened in real life, no movie that makes it not happen is going to help anything for me I guess.Think of it this way...directors like to be different. They like to do the unexpected and they don't like doing the same old thing. Tarantino gets a media buzz with his take on the Manson murders and by changing history he also softens the blow of seeing poor Sharon Tate brutally murdered.
ironpony
07-30-19, 03:36 PM
I guess, but Tarantino has had a history of doing that in his other movies, he would introduce serious subject matter, but then soften it. I guess I feel like why can't Tarantino for once make a movie that really makes you think when you leave the theater, but he goes for these soft popcorn endings. Nothing wrong with that though :)
The thing about this film is that it's an unconventional story, like most Tarantino films you really need to think about the next step for the characters.
You can now leave the theater and ponder what the next step is for the survivors one thing I'd like to think about it is what happens with Charlie? By not having any murders or witnesses and a bunch of dead hippies what's the next step for the family.
The movie isn't just about saving a life but also a friendship this was supposed to be the farewell for Cliff, well I doubt that's gonna happen now.
rambond
08-11-19, 10:21 AM
Tbh, saw this movie 2 days ago, too slow,and nothing much happening on screen, this could be the worst tarantino film, very slow paced and nothing important happening for most of the film...
aronisred
08-11-19, 11:43 AM
Tbh, saw this movie 2 days ago, too slow,and nothing much happening on screen, this could be the worst tarantino film, very slow paced and nothing important happening for most of the film...
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MadMan_731
08-11-19, 05:14 PM
I loved it, although I can get why many did not. It is more like Death Proof and Jackie Brown than some of his other movies. Leo and Pitt had fantastic chemistry onscreen. And Margot Robbie was rather impressive as Sharon Tate.
chawhee
08-11-19, 05:36 PM
Yeah, the Dicaprio/Pitt chemistry sold me on the rest of the movie. If it was any other two actors, I'd probably cut this movie's rating in half.
aronisred
08-11-19, 06:27 PM
Yeah, the Dicaprio/Pitt chemistry sold me on the rest of the movie. If it was any other two actors, I'd probably cut this movie's rating in half.
you don't know what they could bring. If it had tom cruise/christian bale in place of leo/pitt...it will work the same. So don't presume how the movie will be if the cast is different. Such a narrow minded thought process.
That's kind of arrogant. Anyway, Chawhee did write "probably" on the rating if it had been cast with other actors. I agree, and honestly while think Bale can be fantastic I have a hard time seeing a chemistry between his personality and Cruise's. That's subjective btw. Your logic applies that you also do not know what they could bring. I mean, if we're all going to be narrow. They were not cast so there is no way to know.
GulfportDoc
08-11-19, 08:28 PM
I'll lay a dollar to a dime that DiCaprio/Pitt will star in another movie or two. They might be the new Redford/Newman. That is, if anyone can afford them...:)
doubledenim
08-11-19, 08:48 PM
Like or don't like, it is overloaded with nuance. Some film student will write a thesis about the "On a roof/Bruce Lee" scene one day.
chawhee
08-12-19, 08:47 AM
you don't know what they could bring. If it had tom cruise/christian bale in place of leo/pitt...it will work the same. So don't presume how the movie will be if the cast is different. Such a narrow minded thought process.
Someone called this out already, but thought I would reply....you're making a big assumption saying it would work the same with Bale/Cruise. I like Cruise but Bale has never drawn me to a movie (not to say he's bad). So it wouldn't work the same....for me at least. As stated, cast choices are rather subjective. Narrow minded :p
aronisred
08-12-19, 11:47 AM
you don't know what they could bring. If it had tom cruise/christian bale in place of leo/pitt...it will work the same. So don't presume how the movie will be if the cast is different. Such a narrow minded thought process.
Someone called this out already, but thought I would reply....you're making a big assumption saying it would work the same with Bale/Cruise. I like Cruise but Bale has never drawn me to a movie (not to say he's bad). So it wouldn't work the same....for me at least. As stated, cast choices are rather subjective. Narrow minded :p
The person I replied to made a similarly broad assumption that this movie worked only because of the duo..you don’t know until you see it
Has anybody seen it already, any thoughts?
mattiasflgrtll6
08-15-19, 09:42 AM
It's not just about the actor being good, it's the actor fitting in the role as well. John Wayne is a good actor, but although I don't think he was as bad as people say, he was definitely not the right person to play Djingis Khan, American or not.
NataljaK
08-15-19, 11:19 AM
I really enjoyed Dicaprio and Pitt + Robbie, but the movie itself ... slow and quite boring. Not much of an action or something that would really get me to watch it with interest, some scenes were way too long. The ending was the best part.
John-Connor
08-15-19, 02:44 PM
Dope flick!
Much more suspense and tension building than we usually get from Tarantino.
It's definitely not a movie for mad 12 year old Christian Bale groupies and fanboys.
Also you gotta know your 60's/70's flicks (even the less critically acclaimed ones) or this whole movie will go way over your head.
Had to deduct half a bucket for the Bruce Lee scene (unbelievable BS), but other than that QT delivered for me once again.
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84/100
4+
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doubledenim
08-15-19, 08:56 PM
Has anybody seen it already, any thoughts?
It's really good and will only get better with age and repeat viewings.
- If you are in the Bruce Lee family, I can see being upset. If not, then realize that Cliff is fantasizing what happened, not remembering what he did. He's a complete dirtbag. How else would that character remember something like. If anything, the car spells it out for you.
- The stuff with Sharon Tate is really good without her having to splain' a bunch of stuff. She is happy and on the rise, yet to be jaded or have a setback. She is hope. This is her beginning
- Cliff and Rick are the opposite to her. They are at the end and trying not to accept that things are not going to be getting better for them. Their time is over.
- The end scene is a perfect analogy for Cliff and Rick's relationship. One does the heavy lifting, one takes all the credit.
- The title is "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and it is a fairy-tale. Lest we forget, they spell it out at the end of the movie.
John-Connor
08-16-19, 02:31 AM
It's really good and will only get better with age and repeat viewings.
- If you are in the Bruce Lee family, I can see being upset. If not, then realize that Cliff is fantasizing what happened, not remembering what he did. He's a complete dirtbag. How else would that character remember something like. If anything, the car spells it out for you.
- The stuff with Sharon Tate is really good without her having to splain' a bunch of stuff. She is happy and on the rise, yet to be jaded or have a setback. She is hope. This is her beginning
- Cliff and Rick are the opposite to her. They are at the end and trying not accept that things are not going to be getting better for them. Their time is over.
- The end scene is a perfect analogy for Cliff and Rick's relationship. One does the heavy lifting, one takes all the credit.
- The title is "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and it is a fairy-tale. Lest we forget, they spell it out at the end of the movie.
Fantasy or not I don't want him depicted in that way, and yeah in a way Bruce Lee is my father..:D
Hitchcockian97
08-17-19, 03:21 PM
Without getting into spoilers, I really loved this movie. The well-known Tarantino-esque touch was there, with lots of snappy dialogue, dark humour and a well thought-out script, but it also felt like a love-letter to film in general, in the way it was shot and the throwback-scenes to older movies and serials.
Considering this is one of Tarantino's final films, it's evident he wants to go out with a bang and really showcase his love for cinema, which is equally shared by me.
This might be one of his, if not the best films he has ever made, on par with Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds and The Hateful Eight.
Iroquois
08-18-19, 10:49 AM
I figured they had shown up to attack the Polanski house as originally planned, but Rick catching them beforehand makes him into a loose end (and possibly a more opportune target as he'd clearly been drinking heavily) - they don't realise Cliff is there until they walk inside.
Anyway, I finally got to see it and...it's fine. Probably doesn't help that I had to wait through three spoiler-filled weeks to see it as I think this would really benefit from going in cold, but I wasn't totally feeling the hangout vibe it was going for (even though it seems like my kind of thing). Will be interested to see how it holds up on repeat viewings, though, but as of right now I'd consider it one of his lesser works.
Harry65
09-11-19, 11:55 AM
I saw the movie recently. The cast is amazing, the last fight was breathtaking! Great job!
mojofilter
09-11-19, 11:56 AM
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=57203
This is hilarious!
Agreed.
If someone thinks it isn't hilarious, force yourself to read it out loud.
Stirchley
05-04-20, 03:00 PM
Anyway, I finally got to see it and...it's fine. Probably doesn't help that I had to wait through three spoiler-filled weeks to see it as I think this would really benefit from going in cold, but I wasn't totally feeling the hangout vibe it was going for (even though it seems like my kind of thing). Will be interested to see how it holds up on repeat viewings, though, but as of right now I'd consider it one of his lesser works.
I agree. Reservoir Dogs & Pulp Fiction much more brilliant movies IMO.
First time viewing was very underwhelming, but sat down the next day & watched it again. Pitt & Leonardo are brilliant in their roles & there are good cameos too. Second viewing was better & I understood the story better too. (Hard to believe Brad is 10 years older than Leonardo.) Enjoyable movie, but will never watch it again.
Iroquois
05-04-20, 03:11 PM
I've watched it a couple of times since then and my opinion of it has improved. Still undecided as to where I'd rank it against his other stuff - always hard to do that with the newer releases going up against the established classics.
mojofilter
05-05-20, 09:07 PM
I’ve watched it three times so far. First time in theatres, i found it long, slow, with some fun moments and an outrageously entertaining ending. The second time at home, I really got into it. Brilliant film with hilarious dialogue, perfect chemistry between Leo and Brad, excellent performances by the supporting cast (that little girl killed it). I plan on watching it again soon. I’d rank the film Tarantino’s third or fourth best film.
Stirchley
05-06-20, 02:45 PM
⬆️ Julia Butters, the little girl, is very talented. She’s gonna be a beauty, I think.
https://twitter.com/davefranklin/status/1429876476552400896
https://twitter.com/davefranklin/status/1429876476552400896
Trippy. I'm rewatching this tonight and wanted to reread what was being written at the time. I scroll back a bit to notice this still and, as I paused to read it, that scene started to play.
JPRetana
09-12-22, 07:03 PM
Like the Tate-LaBianca murders, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a senseless massacre; and like Charles Manson's Helter Skelter scenario, the film's script is but the incoherent ranting and raving of an egomaniacal lunatic.
That this near-three hour-long dumpster fire is at all watchable is a testament to the combined talents of Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt, who have undeniable onscreen chemistry. Somewhere under the landslide of pointless cameos lies buried a good movie about Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth.
Instead, we get interminable scenes of Sharon Tate (Margot Robbie) going book shopping, going to the movies, and so on and so forth. This would actually go a long way —figuratively, that is, as opposed to just literally — toward creating a sense of dread as we anticipate Sharon’s unavoidable doom.
Leave it to Tarantino, however, to find a way to avoid it. Somehow, the only thing in worse taste than exploiting her ignominious death is giving it the Inglorious Basterds revisionist treatment. These aren’t Marvel characters that you can bring back from the dead by snapping your fingers; Tate and the other Manson family victims were real human beings with hopes and dreams. Does Tarantino really believe that we need his arrogant, pompous ass to tell us that they should have lived and not died?
The saddest part of all is that QT didn’t used to be an arrogant, pompous ass. In fact, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood may remind you of Pulp Fiction’s interweaving stories — except for the 'interweaving' part. There is a lot of cause-and-effect in Pulp Fiction; Jules's encounter with Ringo at the restaurant would have gone very differently had Jules not previously experienced his "miracle," and Jules and Vincent would not have ended up in that restaurant to begin with if Vincent had not shot Marvin in the face.
In contrast, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is all random meandering. It makes little or no difference whether Rick goes to Italy to shoot spaghetti westerns or Cliff visits the Spahn Ranch or not, because absolutely nothing that happens before the arbitrarily tacked-on climax leads in any way to it. The movie beats around the bush for over 150 minutes before finally arriving at any kind of destination only to make us wish, once it gets there, that it had just continued wandering aimlessly.
Gideon58
10-22-22, 01:19 PM
My review of this film:
https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2050316-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood.html
For me this is the best Tarantino movie.... ever.... easy.
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