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In this rash of new features/fixes I've beefed up the Ignore List a bit, mostly by making sure it applied to a few things I'd hacked up back in the day (like Post Comments). But that got me wondering: should it actually hide posts completely, instead of simply collapse them?
For those who don't know, when you have someone ignore and come across their posts, they look roughly like this:
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But in pretty much every other way, it hides the thing completely. Like, with shouts, it simply doesn't display it; it doesn't show you a collapsed version, where it's easy to have a peek and have people on Ignore, but still look in and ultimately end up having to deal with whatever led to the decision to put them on Ignore in the first place.
So, the question is: should the Ignore List hide the posts completely, rather than simply collapse them?
EDIT: after a unanimous response, I've already implemented the change to hide the post entirely. But opinions agreeing or disagreeing with this decision are still welcome.
Little Devil
03-13-17, 11:42 AM
In this rash of new features/fixes I've beefed up the Ignore List a bit, mostly by making sure it applied to a few things I'd hacked up back in the day (like Post Comments). But that got me wondering: should it actually hide posts completely, instead of simply collapse them?
For those who don't know, when you have someone ignore and come across their posts, they look roughly like this:
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But in pretty much every other way, it hides the thing completely. Like, with shouts, it simply doesn't display it; it doesn't show you a collapsed version, where it's easy to have a peek and have people on Ignore, but still look in and ultimately end up having to deal with whatever led to the decision to put them on Ignore in the first place.
So, the question is: should the Ignore List hide the posts completely, rather than simply collapse them?
[Personally] I have no use for the "post ignored" thing to pop up in between a thread. If I put someone in Ignore, that person will be put indefinitely. If that person feels she has something to say towards me [when he/she knows was put on the Ignore list] it is obvious that someone who is not in my ignore list [such as an online buddy] will quote that person so I can see it [seen it happening already]. So, it's just useless noise.
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Hahahaha, Yoda blocked honeykid!
To answer your question: completely hidden. But I struggle with temptation.
Sexy Celebrity
03-13-17, 11:47 AM
A revamped ignore list is just what we need.
It's already giving me a new thread idea -- Get on SEXY CELEBRITY'S Ignore User List!
christine
03-13-17, 11:50 AM
I've never ignored someone but I'd be tempted to look if it looked like the first post. I'd say hide the whole thing. If someone's been bad enough to be on your ignore list then you shouldn't have to kinow they've posted something.
What if their reply is quoted tho? would you be able to see that?
ShopkeeperTriumph
03-13-17, 11:51 AM
A revamped ignore list is just what we need.
It's already giving me a new thread idea -- Get on SEXY CELEBRITY'S Ignore User List!
I just threw all of my Jake Gyllenhaal movies in the trash. Am I on the right track?
What if their reply is quoted tho? would you be able to see that?
It'd be tougher to hide that, but even putting the effort aside, we'd still have to decide whether to hide the entire post quoting it, or just have the reply floating there, seemingly replying to nothing, neither of which is great.
christine
03-13-17, 11:57 AM
It'd be tougher to hide that, but even putting the effort aside, we'd still have to decide whether to hide the entire post quoting it, or just have the reply floating there, seemingly replying to nothing, neither of which is great.
yes, bit of a puzzler that one, unless you could make the quote blank with just the ignored persons name on it?
Little Devil
03-13-17, 12:05 PM
I already put 3 on Ignore: two ex-IMDB ass-hats and an In-house idiotic instigator. Those 3 won't come out of the Ignore list ever, so I have no use to remember they even exist.
However, for you people not to think it's all random, a bit of a back story:
I'm not one to use Ignore features, I only did it twice on IMDB [2 stalkers that were following me around accusing me of being some sock account for someone who made them cry] when I much prefer to have some form of fun with trolls.
However, new house, new rules. And I despise attacks via subterfuge [I despise attacks of any shape or form, even less by someone who doesn't know me from nowhere; but if someone is to attack me, it better come out straight with a reason and wearing the balls in the right place, instead of half baked words and lousy attitude]. I'm not a patient person to self-righteous hypocrites. I'm respectful, candid and easy going till I'm greeted with sheer idiocy.
TheUsualSuspect
03-13-17, 12:10 PM
Makes no difference to me since I have no one on ignore.
Chypmunk
03-13-17, 12:12 PM
How about going one step further and hiding threads created by those on an ignore list as well?
That's my two pence worth ... I only have a dime, please send change electronically - thank you!
In this rash of new features/fixes I've beefed up the Ignore List a bit, mostly by making sure it applied to a few things I'd hacked up back in the day (like Post Comments). But that got me wondering: should it actually hide posts completely, instead of simply collapse them?
For those who don't know, when you have someone ignore and come across their posts, they look roughly like this:
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But in pretty much every other way, it hides the thing completely. Like, with shouts, it simply doesn't display it; it doesn't show you a collapsed version, where it's easy to have a peek and have people on Ignore, but still look in and ultimately end up having to deal with whatever led to the decision to put them on Ignore in the first place.
So, the question is: should the Ignore List hide the posts completely, rather than simply collapse them?
Completely hidden. I never understood why forums in general allow you to see the ignored person's collapsed post. I rarely take people off my ignore list unless it's a special circumstance.
Hahahaha, Yoda blocked honeykid!
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Poor honeykid :bawling:
Doesnt bother me either way because if someone behaves in such a way for me to put them on ignore then I simply forget about them regardless of seeing a prompt that they posted, but I've seen people complain about this sort of thing on other forums over the years. Seems like a lot of work, though. No rest for the wicked, hey Yods. You must have done something really bad in your previous life to have to tinker around with stuff like this rather than watch fillums.
Chypmunk
03-13-17, 12:20 PM
No rest for the wicked, hey Yods. You must have done something really bad in your previous life to have to tinker around with stuff like this rather than watch fillums.
It's ok - this all feeds into the screenplay he's writing and will sell for millions ;)
Movie Max
03-13-17, 12:21 PM
Makes no difference to me since I have no one on ignore.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/6d/6dcaef1883fc57ed763a0440c7582fc7dd2d8adf3398d8308e28f68365c2e7d9.jpg
John McClane
03-13-17, 12:25 PM
Crazy thought: is it not possible to have this as a user controlled setting (i.e. we choose which one we prefer)?
You must have done something really bad in your previous life to have to tinker around with stuff like this rather than watch fillums.
The irony of having to spend more time running a site about movies than watching them certainly isn't lost on me.
It's ok - this all feeds into the screenplay he's writing and will sell for millions ;)
What a scathingly brilliant idea. I knew he was up to something, but if he sells out to Amazon like the other place did I say we gang up with our pitchforks and tickle him until he pees his pants.
Chypmunk
03-13-17, 12:29 PM
What a scathingly brilliant idea. I knew he was up to something, but if he sells out to Amazon like the other place did I say we gang up with our pitchforks and tickle him until he pees his pants.
But what if the anticipation makes him pee his pants before the tickling even starts .... what then? :eek:
yes, bit of a puzzler that one, unless you could make the quote blank with just the ignored persons name on it?
Crazy thought: is it not possible to have this as a user controlled setting (i.e. we choose which one we prefer)?
Answer to both is yes, though both take more work than just hiding them outright (particularly the former). But my inclination is towards something easier and cleaner (conceptually). I'm thinking the very idea of an Ignore List is at odds with making it too easy to circumvent.
But what if the anticipation makes him pee his pants before the tickling even starts .... what then? :eek:
Depends on if the peeing is brought on by terror or excitement. I think you could make a fine story out of this, Chyp. I'll do some ghost writing for you, but we'll have to wait for Mama Yoda to go on her holiday. I'm not comfortable torturing her son while she's in the house.
Chypmunk
03-13-17, 12:37 PM
Depends on if the peeing is brought on by terror or excitement. I think you could make a fine story out of this, Chyp. I'll do some ghost writing for you, but we'll have to wait for Mama Yoda to go on her holiday. I'm not comfortable torturing her son while she's in the house.
Hey don't drag me into this - I quite like being able to post on here :D
Miss Vicky
03-13-17, 12:38 PM
I didn't read this whole thread, so apologies if this has been asked already, but is there a way to give the individual user a choice? Like if they want that person blocked completely or if they want those posts only veiled.
I rarely use the Ignore User function, so ultimately I don't care either way, just wondering.
Answered at the top of this page. Short version: yeah, but I think a more general/cleaner solution is preferable, especially since it's easier to implement.
Powdered Water
03-13-17, 12:53 PM
I really don't think there's a need for this feature at all. I'll be outside watching the squabble.
John McClane
03-13-17, 01:01 PM
Well, I vote in favor of having them hidden.
Sexy Celebrity
03-13-17, 01:31 PM
Why are we even focusing on ignoring each other?
Ya know.
We should be focusing on being more peaceful with each other.
matt72582
03-13-17, 01:36 PM
Completely hidden
Sounds unanimous.
I'll go ahead and make the change, tentatively. If anyone has any objections, I'll gladly still hear them out (it's easy to switch back if a compelling argument is made).
Only weirdness is that clicking a link on a quoted post from an ignored user won't take you anywhere, but that shouldn't surprise anyone who does it, since they know they have them on ignore. But I'll see if there's an easy way to remove the link in those instances.
John McClane
03-13-17, 01:49 PM
I already like it. :up:
Sexy Celebrity
03-13-17, 03:09 PM
Nice. Love it.
Citizen Rules
03-13-17, 03:22 PM
So, the question is: should the Ignore List hide the posts completely, rather than simply collapse them? I'm late to this discussion and I see the decision has been made, so I will say I concur. Fully hide post on the ignore list, not just collapse.
A revamped ignore list is just what we need.
It's already giving me a new thread idea -- Get on SEXY CELEBRITY'S Ignore User List!
Highly recommended, btw. I have been on it for years! ;)
I'm going to put yods on ignore.
Just to test it out and see what you've been tinkering.
"MODS DON'T GO ON IGNORE" is the new "HOVERBOARDS DON'T WORK ON WATER."
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Very sneaky. Sure made me laugh when I got the 'you're not allowed to put him on ignore'. Gold! I never considered that was an option on forums. I doubt anyone would want to ignore a cute lil green geriatric, though.
MovieMeditation
03-13-17, 04:40 PM
I'll put every single active user on ignore and have a super weird "stalker in the open" forum experience.
Hidden completely. if someone goes on ignore there's no reason to even be reminded they exist.
Hidden completely. if someone goes on ignore there's no reason to even be reminded they exist.
Yeah that's what Yoda did. 👍 Used to really annoy me on imdb when I'd click on a new post and it would be one of the clingons I had on ignore still following me around.
As your newist techno challenged tester I just tried my phone. It doesnt work, Yods. Doesn't bother me but just letting you know.
I'll PM you for the details.
But, standard reminder for anyone reading: always include specifics! 99% of the time I need to know what you're trying to do, and what's happening, to fix it.
EDIT: turns out it just hadn't been applied to the mobile style. Should be fixed in a couple of minutes.
cricket
03-13-17, 05:59 PM
I would never even consider putting someone on ignore. I never have confrontation here, but I would get a kick out of it if I did. If it were bad, I couldn't not know what the other party was saying.
Chypmunk
03-13-17, 06:03 PM
Why does the master list say cricket posted here yet when I open the thread is the last post from Yoda instead ?:eek:?
Edit: Never mind, found out why :blush:
Yeah that's what Yoda did. 👍 Used to really annoy me on imdb when I'd click on a new post and it would be one of the clingons I had on ignore still following me around.I ended up using a greasemonkey script on Firefox for IMDb, with it running it handled the ignores and the offending twit ceased to exist completely.
The only way they were seen was if someone quoted one of their posts.
Why does the master list say cricket posted here yet when I open the thread is the last post from Yoda instead ?:eek:?
Edit: Never mind, found out why :blush:
*waves hand*
cricket never posted here.
Thursday Next
03-13-17, 06:15 PM
Just a thought on the other side:
I currently only have three users on ignore. Two of the three are there because they persistently post images that I'd rather not have show up on my screen. One of them does sometimes also post stuff about films that I'm interested in, so I quite like being able to see the posts if I want to and hide them again if necessary.
I realise this is probably a fairly niche use of the ignore function, so if it's a lot of trouble to have the ignored posts viewable, I'm fine with that too.
Chypmunk
03-13-17, 06:16 PM
*waves hand*
cricket never posted here.
Phew :)
You might wanna take a look into that as a bug then as the master list definitely said he did :p
The 3 I have on Ignore User, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever worth peeking at that they post, ever. To make their posts even more invisible to me would be fine. :up:
cricket
03-13-17, 06:32 PM
Just a thought on the other side:
I currently only have three users on ignore. Two of the three are there because they persistently post images that I'd rather not have show up on my screen. One of them does sometimes also post stuff about films that I'm interested in, so I quite like being able to see the posts if I want to and hide them again if necessary.
I realise this is probably a fairly niche use of the ignore function, so if it's a lot of trouble to have the ignored posts viewable, I'm fine with that too.
That could be me, say it ain't so!
Sexy Celebrity
03-13-17, 07:17 PM
I would never even consider putting someone on ignore. I never have confrontation here, but I would get a kick out of it if I did. If it were bad, I couldn't not know what the other party was saying.
Yeah, I agree, and after reading this, I've decided to take my Ignored Users off.
This is just another stupid distraction to problems that won't solve anything, a revamped Ignore Users list. If I still have problems with people, and I don't use this feature, I'll only get blamed for not using it. So, no, forget this whole new thing about the Ignore Users list. This forum should just stop taking itself so seriously all the time. We do not need to be worrying about ignoring people and hiding their posts. It is just more navel gazing.
Just a thought on the other side:
I currently only have three users on ignore. Two of the three are there because they persistently post images that I'd rather not have show up on my screen. One of them does sometimes also post stuff about films that I'm interested in, so I quite like being able to see the posts if I want to and hide them again if necessary.
I realise this is probably a fairly niche use of the ignore function, so if it's a lot of trouble to have the ignored posts viewable, I'm fine with that too.
Thanks for the feedback. That makes sense. The consensus is otherwise pretty overwhelming, but I'll think about whether or not to add an option in the future, particularly if it continues to be an issue, or if other people have something similar going on.
Iroquois
03-14-17, 06:39 AM
I already put 3 on Ignore: two ex-IMDB ass-hats and an In-house idiotic instigator. Those 3 won't come out of the Ignore list ever, so I have no use to remember they even exist.
However, for you people not to think it's all random, a bit of a back story:
I'm not one to use Ignore features, I only did it twice on IMDB [2 stalkers that were following me around accusing me of being some sock account for someone who made them cry] when I much prefer to have some form of fun with trolls.
However, new house, new rules. And I despise attacks via subterfuge [I despise attacks of any shape or form, even less by someone who doesn't know me from nowhere; but if someone is to attack me, it better come out straight with a reason and wearing the balls in the right place, instead of half baked words and lousy attitude]. I'm not a patient person to self-righteous hypocrites. I'm respectful, candid and easy going till I'm greeted with sheer idiocy.
I'm pretty sure that Little Devil means me simply because the stuff I wrote in this thread (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=48511) was enough to get me labelled as an "instigator" in a thread that seems custom-designed to instigate negative discussions, in case you're wondering what it's going to take to make their ignore list (i.e. not much).
cat_sidhe
03-16-17, 10:33 AM
Just a thought on the other side:
I currently only have three users on ignore. Two of the three are there because they persistently post images that I'd rather not have show up on my screen. One of them does sometimes also post stuff about films that I'm interested in, so I quite like being able to see the posts if I want to and hide them again if necessary.
I realise this is probably a fairly niche use of the ignore function, so if it's a lot of trouble to have the ignored posts viewable, I'm fine with that too.
That's how I use it too.
I have to say this feature tweak is perfect :)
Now if they only didnt show up in quotes........
Iroquois
03-17-17, 12:36 AM
If you get quoted by someone who you've got on your ignore list, do you still get a mention?
No, it should suppress both the notification and exclude it from the Mentions page.
EDIT: double-checked this: confirmed. Only exception is if you put someone ignore while the notification is already waiting for you, it won't vanish. But it will immediately vanish from the Mentions page, and future mentions will suppress the notification, too.
Ðèstîñy
03-17-17, 02:08 AM
currently only have three users on ignore.
The 3 I have on Ignore
I already put 3 on Ignore.
What's up with that number!?! That'd be weird if they were the same three, although I'm figuring they're not.
Eerie, I just added my third....
Little Devil
03-17-17, 08:37 AM
What's up with that number!?! That'd be weird if they were the same three, although I'm figuring they're not.
Interesting you mention it, lately when I go to bed it's either 3:33 or 2:33 [depending].
There was a time I was stuck with the number 9. I would look at the clock and it would be 9:09, 10:19; etc. A car would pass by and it had 9's on the plate. Weird as hell.
I wonder if Im on anyones Ignore User list?
Ðèstîñy
03-20-17, 01:24 AM
Interesting you mention it, lately when I go to bed it's either 3:33 or 2:33 [depending].
There was a time I was stuck with the number 9. I would look at the clock and it would be 9:09, 10:19; etc. A car would pass by and it had 9's on the plate. Weird as hell.
Yeah, I love when things like that happen. With you, it's a wild coincidence.
Something that's kind of like that . . . They say that we usually notice things more, once it's important to our lives. An example of what I mean, would be the name Jack. Ever since I discovered this man, it's seems to be a name I here allllll the time. A lot of my favorite movies have characters with the name Jack, and a lot of the time, it's one of the main stars. I see that name on TV, in movies, etc , , , all the time. Before this, I already had a cat named Jack . . . Jack & Jill, Bonnie & Clyde, and an uncle named Jack. I swear that I hear and/or see that name more times a day than I can count. I know it's a common name, so that helps, but still. Now that the name is important to me, I can't help but to notice it, and man how I do that all day long.
Another example is when we pick out our dream car. After that, we forever see them on the street, on TV, movies, etc . . .
Little Devil
03-20-17, 08:35 AM
Yeah, I love when things like that happen. With you, it's a wild coincidence.
Something that's kind of like that . . . They say that we usually notice things more, once it's important to our lives. An example of what I mean, would be the name Jack. Ever since I discovered this man, it's seems to be a name I here allllll the time. A lot of my favorite movies have characters with the name Jack, and a lot of the time, it's one of the main stars. I see that name on TV, in movies, etc , , , all the time. Before this, I already had a cat named Jack . . . Jack & Jill, Bonnie & Clyde, and an uncle named Jack. I swear that I hear and/or see that name more times a day than I can count. I know it's a common name, so that helps, but still. Now that the name is important to me, I can't help but to notice it, and man how I do that all day long.
Another example is when we pick out our dream car. After that, we forever see them on the street, on TV, movies, etc . . .
I can explain the 3:33/2:33 thing. We have internal clocks even tough we are not aware of it.
A good example is when you wake up at around the same time every day without the need of an alarm clock. Or when you seem to wake up just a few seconds before your alarm clock is triggered.
The Jack and the car examples are also great. Our minds are always working.
cat_sidhe
03-21-17, 05:41 PM
currently only have three users on ignore.
The 3 I have on Ignore
I already put 3 on Ignore.
What's up with that number!?! That'd be weird if they were the same three, although I'm figuring they're not.
Damn...checked my list. Yup. 3.
I went through a stage where I thought I was living in a haunted house and woke up every morning at 3.33
cat_sidhe
03-21-17, 05:47 PM
3.33? Only half evil then. :lol:
3.33? Only half evil then. :lol:
Yeah exactly. I moved and it stopped. Spooky. I dont even believe in ghosts but it was at a time when someone gave me the satanic bible to read and there's no 6.66
cat_sidhe
03-21-17, 06:16 PM
3.33? Only half evil then. :lol:
Yeah exactly. I moved and it stopped. Spooky. I dont even believe in ghosts but it was at a time when someone gave me the satanic bible to read and there's no 6.66
Speaking of...I used to work in a prog record store. Noticed an album by Anto LaVey called "Satan Takes a Holiday" so of course I had to give it a spin. :lol: Oh boy was it bad....
Speaking of...I used to work in a prog record store. Noticed an album by Anto LaVey called "Satan Takes a Holiday" so of course I had to give it a spin. :lol: Oh boy was it bad....
LOL I can imgine.
cat_sidhe
03-21-17, 06:20 PM
Casiotone devilpop. What could go wrong?
Casiotone devilpop. What could go wrong?
ROFL. That's woeful.
Take it to the Shoutbox, people. Or start a general banter thread; that'd be fine, too.
Little Devil
03-21-17, 09:40 PM
Damn...checked my list. Yup. 3.
Your thing was posted 3 hours ago. lol :D
Cobpyth
03-25-17, 02:10 PM
Don't hide them completely.
Members who ignore other members that aren't banned (and therefore don't break any rules), should be reminded once in a while that they are, in fact, behaving quite cowardly.
We shouldn't promote living in self-created imaginary worlds of safety. The users of the 'ignore button' should be reminded of the existence of a real world, where there are also people operating who they don't happen to agree with or like.
I hope people won't ignore me because of this opinion, but this is my sincere view on the whole matter.
Little Devil
03-25-17, 02:18 PM
Don't hide them completely.
Members who ignore other members that aren't banned (and therefore don't break any rules), should be reminded once in a while that they are, in fact, behaving quite cowardly.
We shouldn't promote living in self-created imaginary worlds of safety. The users of the 'ignore button' should be reminded of the existence of a real world, where there are also people operating who they don't happen to agree with or like.
I hope people won't ignore me because of this opinion, but this is my sincere view on the whole matter.
A member that puts another one in Ignore is behaving cowardly, in your opinion? Under any circumstance?
We shouldn't promote hypocrisy in the first place [on line or not], such as the passive-aggressive stance
an example:
"hey "buddy" f.ck off ;)"
"why did you tell me to f.ck off?"
"hey relax... I was only joking "buddy"... see the wink ;)? That's proof of joking.... Don't be a jack ass ;)"
"you did again"
"no "buddy"... don't be stupid as usual ;)"
Cobpyth
03-25-17, 02:28 PM
A member that puts another one in Ignore is behaving cowardly, in your opinion? Under any circumstance?
Unless the moderation is failing and allowing genuinely irritating stuff like obvious spamming or constant PM abuse, I happen to think that is true, yes. This is, however, in my opinion and to my knowledge, not the case on this forum.
I think most (or perhaps all) people who use the 'ignore button' on here, are using it for the wrong reasons. I have many people I like on here that use it, but it's an issue I strongly disagree with them on. I'm sure they can respect that.
What other reasons are there to use the ignore function other than to, you know, ignore? I've never seen a forum that doesnt have one.
Cobpyth
03-25-17, 02:40 PM
What other reasons are there to use the ignore function other than to, you know, ignore? I've never seen a forum that doesnt have one.
The question is: "what do people want to ignore?"
Do they want to ignore genuine continuing abuse, irritating spam or disturbing content? Well, then I'm all for that! None of those things are allowed on this forum, however, so it isn't used for that.
Do people want to ignore everyone who disagrees with them or who they somehow can't stand for their style or way of thinking?
Well, then I think you're showing a lack of courage. You should be able to deal with that kind of stuff on your own, without all of those people being artificially removed from your perception of reality.
Coping with other people that you don't intuitively get along with is an important part of growing as a person. I truly believe it makes you a better person if you allow yourself to be confronted with them and learn how to handle them yourself.
Little Devil
03-25-17, 02:43 PM
Unless the moderation is failing and allowing genuinely irritating stuff like obvious spamming or constant PM abuse, I happen to think that is true, yes. This is, however, in my opinion and to my knowledge, not the case on this forum.
I think most (or perhaps all) people who use the 'ignore button' on here, are using it for the wrong reasons. I have many people I like on here that use it, but it's an issue I strongly disagree with them on. I'm sure they can respect that.
I respect your opinion and you made it quite clear although I don't happen to agree with it.
See, some people will resort to ignore other users when they are annoying. But sadly, some users will always try to make a fuss with you for whatever reason [reasons for such vary of course].
In the end, putting them [whoever feels the need to be an idiot with you] on the Ignore list is nothing more than keeping your screen clean of needless noise.
Putting someone on the Ignore list and still being able to see what the person says [and they will always ask their "message" to you to be quoted by their friends so you end up seeing it, even when you have no interest in such - a kind of silly revenge] is just pointless. The person is in Ignore for a reason [whether he/she likes it or not, it's not your concern either]
In the end, saying "ok we have an Ignore feature.... but you shouldn't use it because it's not cool/is being cowardly" makes not much sense. It would be analogous to offer someone a bowl of soup but not the spoon to eat it with.
The question is: "what do people want to ignore?"
Do they want to ignore genuine continuing abuse, irritating spam or disturbing content? Well, then I'm all for that! None of those things are allowed on this forum, however, so it isn't used for that.
Do people want to ignore everyone who disagrees with them or who they somehow can't stand for their style or way of thinking?
Well, then I think you're showing a lack of courage. You should be able to deal with that kind of stuff on your own, without all of those people being artificially removed from your perception of reality.
Coping with other people that you don't intuitively get along with is an important part of growing as a person. I truly believe it makes you a better person to be confronted with them and to learn how to handle them yourselves.
I use it for spammers (which is not necessary here) and to stop myself from blowing a brain cell with offensive twits. I dont like reporting people because I think administators have enough to deal with, so I'll use ignore. I dont use it for people who simply have different PoVs. I dont know anyone who does that. If you LOVE a movie that I dont like I'm not going to ignore you. I want to engage you to see if I can get a new set of eyes for a rewatch, but I dont have to tolerate shtty bitchy comments, threats or otherwise. I dont put up with it in real life so why should I put up with it on the net. If you think that's cowardly, help yourself.
Little Devil
03-25-17, 02:49 PM
The question is: "what do people want to ignore?"
Do they want to ignore genuine continuing abuse, irritating spam or disturbing content? Well, then I'm all for that! None of those things are allowed on this forum, however, so it isn't used for that.
Do people want to ignore everyone who disagrees with them or who they somehow can't stand for their style or way of thinking?
Well, then I think you're showing a lack of courage. You should be able to deal with that kind of stuff on your own, without all of those people being artificially removed from your perception of reality.
Coping with other people that you don't intuitively get along with is an important part of growing as a person. I truly believe it makes you a better person if you allow yourself to be confronted with them and learn how to handle them yourself.
I already had to put one for passive-aggressiveness. I don't care to be bothered by people who feel the need to attack others while pretending they are not. Neither should I have to keep reading their whining.
I don't think people are here to be bothered by those kind of individuals, they are here to have healthy civilized discussions [in principle].
Cobpyth
03-25-17, 02:57 PM
I respect your opinion and you made it quite clear although I don't happen to agree with it.
The respect is mutual.
See, some people will resort to ignore other users when they are annoying. But sadly, some users will always try to make a fuss with you for whatever reason [reasons for such vary of course].
In the end, putting them [whoever feels the need to be an idiot with you] on the Ignore list is nothing more than keeping your screen clean of needless noise.
Don't you think it's much better for the development of your persona to allow an annoying person inside of your reality once in a while, though? It'll force yourself to learn how to cope with annoying people in the manner that suits you best. When you simply make them vanish artificially, you don't allow yourself to learn those skills.
I, for instance, became a much more grounded person because I've let myself be confronted by many "annoying" people. After I've had fights with them, I always analyzed how I behaved myself during these confrontations and during those evaluations I came up with better ways to act during future disputes. I even came up with ways to make my adversary become more sympathetic towards me. I would've never learned those things if I had ignored them artificially.
Putting someone on the Ignore list and still being able to see what the person says [and they will always ask their "message" to you to be quoted by their friends so you end up seeing it, even when you have no interest in such - a kind of silly revenge] is just pointless. The person is in Ignore for a reason [whether he/she likes it or not, it's not your concern either]
In the end, saying "ok we have an Ignore feature.... but you shouldn't use it because it's not cool/is being cowardly" makes not much sense. It would be analogous to offer someone a bowl of soup but not the spoon to eat it with.
I think a semi-ignore button (as we had here in the past) is much healthier. The person who uses it still holds the responsibility himself to not take a peek at what the member he wants to ignore posted. It makes sure that "ignoring" remains a humane and natural art and it still makes everyone aware that there's another world outside of the one he/she wants to perceive.
Further to Dev's comments, if forum owners, and in this case Yoda, put so much effort into setting up a streamlined ignore function, dont you think it's going to save him from pulling his hair out if people use it as a time out when someone is grinding their gears rather than ply a match of tennis to see who gets the biggest lob in, and then go running to him as soon as the crying starts?
Little Devil
03-25-17, 03:09 PM
The respect is mutual.Thank you kindly.
Don't you think it's much better for the development of your persona to allow an annoying person inside of your reality once in a while, though? It'll force yourself to learn how to cope with annoying people in the manner that suits you best. When you simply make them vanish artificially, you don't allow yourself to learn those skills.You pose an interesting question. My answer is: We already have annoying people in our lives that we have to deal with and we can't do anything about it [either in our work place, in our daily routines, etc]. If we can be in a place where we actually have a degree of control over annoyances, it also means we already know what makes ourselves tick and can act accordingly, besides already having that experience in the real world.
I can see your "personal growth" point of view, however. But given the choice of where to be annoyed, I [personally] prefer to have control over the ones I can mitigate.
I, for instance, became a much more grounded person because I've let myself be confronted by many "annoying" people. After I've had fights with them, I always analyzed how I behaved myself during these confrontations and during those evaluations I came up with better ways to act during future disputes. I even came up with ways to make my adversary become more sympathetic towards me. I would've never learned those things if I had ignored them artificially.
All valid, of course.
I think a semi-ignore button (as we had here in the past) is much healthier. The person who uses it still holds the responsibility himself to not take a peek at what the member he wants to ignore posted. It makes sure that "ignoring" remains a humane and natural art and it still makes everyone aware that there's another world outside of the one he/she wants to perceive.I don't know which system was applied here before, so I can not comment.
Cobpyth
03-25-17, 05:46 PM
You pose an interesting question. My answer is: We already have annoying people in our lives that we have to deal with and we can't do anything about it [either in our work place, in our daily routines, etc]. If we can be in a place where we actually have a degree of control over annoyances, it also means we already know what makes ourselves tick and can act accordingly, besides already having that experience in the real world.
I can see your "personal growth" point of view, however. But given the choice of where to be annoyed, I [personally] prefer to have control over the ones I can mitigate.
Fair point. I think my biggest problem with the whole thing is the fact that with this online mindset of artificially making every annoyance simply vanish, people start losing their touch with reality. Everyone starts creating their own bubbles. I don't like the principle of it.
I don't know which system was applied here before, so I can not comment.
Well, formerly, people could still see that the person they ignore had posted something, but they had to click on "view post" if they wanted to read what that person said. There's an image of it somewhere in this thread.
I think that system is much healthier. It helps you to ignore people a little easier, while still letting you know they exist and occasionally post things. You still need a certain degree of self-control to ignore someone. The system doesn't make the person you want to ignore completely vanish from reality. It still leaves some of the responsibility of ignoring that person up to you (you have to control yourself in order to not click on "view post").
I'm a proponent of making the social brain still work a little bit in these instances.
Appreciate you guys talking about this so respectfully. :up: Just wanted to address this:
Further to Dev's comments, if forum owners, and in this case Yoda, put so much effort into setting up a streamlined ignore function, dont you think it's going to save him from pulling his hair out if people use it as a time out when someone is grinding their gears rather than ply a match of tennis to see who gets the biggest lob in, and then go running to him as soon as the crying starts?
It came with the forum software. I have put some time into tweaking it and modifying it to work with some other custom features, though that's just been a response to more people using it.
Carry on!
Little Devil
03-25-17, 06:39 PM
Fair point. I think my biggest problem with the whole thing is the fact that with this online mindset of artificially making every annoyance simply vanish, people start losing their touch with reality. Everyone starts creating their own bubbles. I don't like the principle of it.I totally understand that and can go as far as say I'm a subscriber to the notion that the Internet creates a faux perception of reality [as does any other kind of media, specially cinema]. But we must also be aware that Forums are used for various reasons, one of which is as a form of escape from the daily routine that doesn't allow much space of maneuver to the individual. The question is how people should - in principle - behave towards others in such Forums. Unfortunatly we know that not all individuals have peaceful interaction in mind.
You gave the example of the people who would put others in ignore because those were of different opinion or would be talking about things that would be upsetting [to some readers].
I often wonder about the weight of personal experience and culture as the backbone of the online persona. So the question - in this particular case - would be: what kind of individuals are they in their real life? Are they people with poor social aptitudes? Were they raised in a morally strict family/society? What is their own perception of how they behave towards others [even if they actually think about it]?
Maybe those who can't accept a difference of opinion [for whatever personal reason] are ill equipped to deal with a place such as an Online Forum, where different ideas on subject matters are present and are the general motif of such a place.
Those individuals would surely benefit from personal growth [if correctly guided].
Well, formerly, people could still see that the person they ignore had posted something, but they had to click on "view post" if they wanted to read what that person said. There's an image of it somewhere in this thread.
I think that system is much healthier. It helps you to ignore people a little easier, while still letting you know they exist and occasionally post things. You still need a certain degree of self-control to ignore someone. The system doesn't make the person you want to ignore completely vanish from reality. It still leaves some of the responsibility of ignoring that person up to you (you have to control yourself in order to not click on "view post").
I'm a proponent of making the social brain still work a little bit in these instancesI see. I had no experience former to this Ignore List system, but I get the gist of it and your personal view on it.
I don't know if you have anyone in Ignore, but the people are listed in your personal page. Whenever you want you can take them out of that List and you become able to see and talk to them again.
You don't forget they are there, though.
Little Devil
03-25-17, 06:40 PM
Appreciate you guys talking about this so respectfully. :up: Just wanted to address this:
It came with the forum software. I have put some time into tweaking it and modifying it to work with some other custom features, though that's just been a response to more people using it.
Carry on!
There's no reason no to be respectful. Specially when it's mutual.
Captain Steel
03-25-17, 06:57 PM
Can the Ignore button have a filter?
Such as: ignore by race, by gender, by skin tone, by political party, sexual orientation, age, religion, PC / Non-PC, liberal, conservative, east coast / west coast, eastern / western hemisphere, etc.?
This question is a deeply couched satire that tries to point out how an ignore feature is an antithetical feature to an open discussion board.
If someone needs an ignore button, then maybe they should not be on open discussion boards - maybe they need to find a closed discussion board that limits thought and expression to their chosen pigeon hole or safe space that they wish to stay secluded and protected within.
Just my opinion motivated by my beliefs about free speech.
Little Devil
03-25-17, 07:03 PM
Can the Ignore button have a filter?
Such as: ignore by race, by gender, by skin tone, by political party, sexual orientation, age, religion, PC / Non-PC, liberal, conservative, east coast / west coast, eastern / western hemisphere, etc.?
This question is a deeply couched satire that tries to point out how an ignore feature is an antithetical feature to an open discussion board.
If someone needs an ignore button, then maybe they should not be on open discussion boards - maybe they need to find a closed discussion board that limits thought and expression to their chosen pigeon hole or safe space that they wish to stay secluded and protected within.
Just my opinion motivated by my beliefs about free speech.
For some odd reason I can actually envision some forums happily using such features as you described.
Iroquois
03-25-17, 11:56 PM
I already had to put one for passive-aggressiveness. I don't care to be bothered by people who feel the need to attack others while pretending they are not. Neither should I have to keep reading their whining.
I don't think people are here to be bothered by those kind of individuals, they are here to have healthy civilized discussions [in principle].
Yeah, well, I don't care for actually being attacked and put on ignore by someone who thinks that the proper response to a discussion that they started is to jump ship halfway through with an over-dramatic tell-off, nor should I have to keep reading their whining in thread after thread after thread about how I'm the one who was being a passive-aggressive hypocrite.
I mean, did you ever stop to think why everyone else but you is either a) not bothered by me or b) bothered by me but not enough to put me on ignore?
Fair point. I think my biggest problem with the whole thing is the fact that with this online mindset of artificially making every annoyance simply vanish, people start losing their touch with reality. Everyone starts creating their own bubbles. I don't like the principle of it.
Well, formerly, people could still see that the person they ignore had posted something, but they had to click on "view post" if they wanted to read what that person said. There's an image of it somewhere in this thread.
I think that system is much healthier. It helps you to ignore people a little easier, while still letting you know they exist and occasionally post things. You still need a certain degree of self-control to ignore someone. The system doesn't make the person you want to ignore completely vanish from reality. It still leaves some of the responsibility of ignoring that person up to you (you have to control yourself in order to not click on "view post").
I'm a proponent of making the social brain still work a little bit in these instances.
OK I have an example for you, Cob. Came up in convo this morning. My husband blocked someone on his phone some time ago because he was prone to making midnight phone calls or coming to the house to intimidate so for the first time in our lives we have CCTV on the house. Would talking to him make us better people? No. Same with the ignore function on social media. Some times it's just better to use the ignore function in life.
Also, having someone on ignore in the latest tweaked version on this forum does not make them disappear from the ignorer's vision. You can still see that they have posted and then it's up to the user whether they take a peak or ignore completely.
I hope that clarifies things better.
Citizen Rules
03-26-17, 09:22 PM
OK I have an example for you, Cob. Came up in convo this morning. My husband blocked someone on his phone some time ago because he was prone to making midnight phone calls or coming to the house to intimidate so for the first time in our lives we have CCTV on the house. Would talking to him make us better people? No. Same with the ignore function on social media. Some times it's just better to use the ignore function in life.
Also, having someone on ignore in the latest tweaked version on this forum does not make them disappear from the ignorer's vision. You can still see that they have posted and then it's up to the user whether they take a peak or ignore completely.
I hope that clarifies things better. I don't believe your story. It's too convenient for the sake of this discussion. As a matter of fact every time you wish to make a point, you have some first hand experience that somehow proves your right. I learned that by reading your post on the Terrorist thread. Sorry, I'm not buying it.
cricket
03-26-17, 09:28 PM
I have no reason to doubt that it's true but I think it's a horrible analogy.
Miss Vicky
03-26-17, 09:49 PM
Also, having someone on ignore in the latest tweaked version on this forum does not make them disappear from the ignorer's vision. You can still see that they have posted and then it's up to the user whether they take a peak or ignore completely.
No, no you don't see that they've posted. That was the old version of the ignore function. With the new version you see nothing unless someone else quotes the ignored user.
I hope that clarifies things better.
Captain Steel
03-26-17, 10:37 PM
Can't people just ignore others manually?
Example: (I open a thread and then...) "Oh, another post by Citizen Rules - l know it's him again, not by just his I.D., but by his Orson Welles avatar - man am I tired of his posts - I'll just skip that one."
Wow! WOW! Could it be any easier than that?
I mean is it really so hard that people need a computerized function that automatically ignores other people on a DISCUSSION BOARD for them? (Say it with me... "DIS-CUSH-SHION" ...it means intercommunicating with others.)
It's as if people's brains are too incapable of doing it themselves or that going to another post is too much work - "Oh it's just so exhausting having to skip a post - it would be like having to actually shift in my chair or something - someone hook an I.V. up to me and convert my chair into a toilet so I'll never have to make any effort again!"
You people disgust me!
:p
I have no reason to doubt that it's true but I think it's a horrible analogy.
Are you talking to me? If so I have no idea what you're talking about. My reply was to Cob who said people shouldnt ignore in the real world. Yes they do, and they should.
Cobpyth
03-26-17, 11:14 PM
Read through my posts again, Dani8, and you'll find that cricket is right. It is a horrible analogy.
Thursday Next
03-27-17, 06:28 AM
I agree to a point with Cobpyth that ignoring people with whom you disagree just means you're putting yourself in a bubble where you don't have to deal with people with different opinions and that in general that's a dangerous road to go down. However debates on here, even when they stay within the forum rules, can get heated and personal. Bearing in mind that this is a movie forum that people come on for fun to talk about movies, I can see why they might want to ignore people they feel are behaving badly or being personally irritating or offensive. Sure, they could argue with them, but we all know there are plenty of people on the internet who enjoy winding others up and that arguing with them can be fairly fruitless, so I wouldn't judge anyone for ignoring someone on that basis. Sometimes if you feel yourself getting wound up, it can help to put someone on ignore temporarily so that you're not tempted to respond by calling them a ****wit and end up getting banned yourself! That's actually an advantage of the ignore feature, that it is private and reversible.
There are rules on the forum and it is in general a fairly reasonable and respectful discussion forum compared to others out there, but that doesn't mean there aren't people who can be irritating and rude, or content that could be disturbing.
Personally I think its silly when people make a big deal out of putting others on ignore, "oh I can't be bothered with you any more, I'm putting you on ignore now, look, I'm definitely ignoring you!" It strikes me as childish. If you want to ignore someone, you ignore them, you don't make a big deal of the "I'm not talking to you now".
But ultimately I really think its up to people to decide for themselves when and why to use the ignore feature.
Omnizoa
03-27-17, 06:54 AM
The question is: "what do people want to ignore?"
Do they want to ignore genuine continuing abuse, irritating spam or disturbing content? Well, then I'm all for that! None of those things are allowed on this forum, however, so it isn't used for that.
Do people want to ignore everyone who disagrees with them or who they somehow can't stand for their style or way of thinking?
Well, then I think you're showing a lack of courage. You should be able to deal with that kind of stuff on your own, without all of those people being artificially removed from your perception of reality.
Coping with other people that you don't intuitively get along with is an important part of growing as a person. I truly believe it makes you a better person if you allow yourself to be confronted with them and learn how to handle them yourself.
Very well said.
ash_is_the_gal
03-27-17, 10:04 AM
Sometimes if you feel yourself getting wound up, it can help to put someone on ignore temporarily so that you're not tempted to respond by calling them a ****wit and end up getting banned yourself! That's actually an advantage of the ignore feature, that it is private and reversible.
this is basically how i use it. no one ever stays on my ignore list for more than a day, usually. i find this way of using it very useful.
Just my 2 cents.
I think I inadvertently popularized the Ignore User function. I have 4 people on it I know will say anything, and not hear anything, to where true communication isnt possible. Does this stunt my growth as a person? Ha, I wish having a message board account held so much weight, but in reality it doesnt. I just like conversing and even arguing with members of this site, not people that will say anything to be looked at/center of attention, or multiple accounts. As for my personal development, I learned from real life experience, from real growth, my times too valuable to be wasted on them.
Loving the tweaks done to the feature :)
Just my 2 cents.
I think I inadvertently popularized the Ignore User function. I have 4 people on it I know will say anything, and not hear anything, to where true communication isnt possible. Does this stunt my growth as a person? Ha, I wish having a message board account held so much weight, but in reality it doesnt. I just like conversing and even arguing with members of this site, not people that will say anything to be looked at/center of attention, or multiple accounts. As for my personal development, I learned from real life experience, from real growth, my times too valuable to be wasted on them.
Loving the tweaks done to the feature :)
....AND ANOTHER THING! :) Regarding the "Last Edited By" blurb people get at the bottom of their post - this isnt sign of weakness, lack of confidence, but a mark of wisdom. :yup: Ill explain.
Retrospect is a powerful thing, and unavailable to us in real life. Wouldnt our lives be richer and wiser if we could edit our points of action? Of course, and it wouldnt be a sign of failing wisdom, but a stronger one. As that point in lifes test has been met successfully.
So basically, each of my posts were worth a penny, thereby fulfilling my 2 cents worth. :cool:
Omnizoa
04-07-17, 08:02 AM
As for my personal development, I learned from real life experience,
You should get out more.
TheUsualSuspect
04-07-17, 01:56 PM
I've never seen someone get so butt-hurt over something so trivial.
earlsmoviepicks
04-07-17, 02:14 PM
https://mackel9.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/wpid-92345193dde807bcaff54d4de8ae7b73535a82901901cd02ace19de45b231a5f.jpg
Captain Steel
04-07-17, 02:18 PM
this is basically how i use it. no one ever stays on my ignore list for more than a day, usually. i find this way of using it very useful.
It's weird because all this time I thought my computer had a built in "ignore" app - it's called the scroll bar. I want to ignore a post - I "scroll" right past it.
You people and your petty need for censorship are so immature! :p
ash_is_the_gal
04-07-17, 02:27 PM
It's weird because all this time I thought my computer had a built in "ignore" app - it's called the scroll bar. I want to ignore a post - I "scroll" right past it.
You people and your petty need for censorship are so immature! :p
i've done it like that a couple times, and it's usually when i'm arguing with someone who's being an a-hole. in both cases, i did it moreso because it forced me to stop replying/continuing the argument.
but i don't like keeping people on ignore, so i always remove them once the argument passes
people do it for different reasons, really
Captain Steel
04-07-17, 03:23 PM
i've done it like that a couple times, and it's usually when i'm arguing with someone who's being an a-hole. in both cases, i did it moreso because it forced me to stop replying/continuing the argument.
but i don't like keeping people on ignore, so i always remove them once the argument passes
people do it for different reasons, really
I like being argued with - it's the only attention I get! ;)
Omnizoa
04-07-17, 03:26 PM
Incidentally, I would prefer a system which completely hides posts unless they specifically tag/quote you.
Stirchley
05-09-17, 12:18 AM
The only problem with hiding the ignore posts completely is when there is a game thread involved, especially an alphabetical thread. If you can't see that someone you're ignoring has posted, you skip over that letter & spoil the game.
That's certainly a fair point. Though I'm guessing anyone who'd want to put someone on ignore wouldn't want to play games with them, anyway.
Stirchley
05-10-17, 09:08 PM
That's certainly a fair point. Though I'm guessing anyone who'd want to put someone on ignore wouldn't want to play games with them, anyway.
I would if the game was good.
:laugh: Fair enough. I admit it's not ideal, but I think the feature makes more sense when it's hidden completely, and in service of that, I'm inclined to live with the occasional odd situation like the one you've described, particularly since even the other way there'd be a lot of extra clicking.
Still, a good point that I hadn't thought of.
Ive taken Nostromo87 & Sexy Celebrity off Ignore User.
Only 3 left on my IU list, TUS. Rauld,& Omniz, and hopefully one day theyll be permanently off it too.
Its kind of anti-climactic as I dont post now other than Fantasy Baseball league. This years prize is a trophy and...
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=30708&d=1495452667
rauldc14
05-22-17, 11:28 AM
I don't know that we will ever see Sexy here again unfortunately.
ash_is_the_gal
05-22-17, 11:56 AM
^lol
Stirchley
05-22-17, 03:44 PM
:laugh: Fair enough. I admit it's not ideal, but I think the feature makes more sense when it's hidden completely, and in service of that, I'm inclined to live with the occasional odd situation like the one you've described, particularly since even the other way there'd be a lot of extra clicking.
Still, a good point that I hadn't thought of.
Hate to belabor the point, but having been here for a while now & seeing exactly how many games there are, I do think it would be a disaster if the ignored members' posts are completely hidden. It would wreck so many of the games because the majority of the games follow on from one post to another. E.g., count to 1,000,000.
There are indeed lots of games, but the thing we're concerned with here is how often those games contain people who are ignoring one another, which I think is still pretty rare. Certainly rarer than situations where someone wants to ignore another person, sees they've posted anyway, and is annoyed by it (which I'd gotten a handful of complaints about over the last few months before implementing this change). Has it actually happened, or is it just a possibility?
I suppose one possible compromise would be to only have the ignore list completely hide posts in every forum but Games & Tabs. What does everyone think about that? Is any change necessary, and if so, would that one be a good one?
Chypmunk
05-22-17, 04:24 PM
Would be ok by me if deemed necessary.
Stirchley
05-22-17, 04:25 PM
There are indeed lots of games, but the thing we're concerned with here is how often those games contain people who are ignoring one another, which I think is still pretty rare. Certainly rarer than situations where someone wants to ignore another person, sees they've posted anyway, and is annoyed by it (which I'd gotten a handful of complaints about over the last few months before implementing this change). Has it actually happened, or is it just a possibility?
I suppose one possible compromise would be to only have the ignore list completely hide posts in every forum but Games & Tabs. What does everyone think about that? Is any change necessary, and if so, would that one be a good one?
What they had at IMDb.com, which I think is the best way, was in the thread you saw something like "you are ignoring this poster" or words to that effect. One then had the option of clicking on that post IN A GAME because one had to see what the ignored person had posted in order to not wreck the game. If it wasn't a game, one had the option of not clicking on the post, thereby continuing to ignore that poster.
Maybe it is, as you say, a rarity for posters here to ignore each other, at least in a game, but, believe me, it wasn't rare at IMDb. :)
What they had at IMDb.com, which I think is the best way, was in the thread you saw something like "you are ignoring this poster" or words to that effect. One then had the option of clicking on that post IN A GAME because one had to see what the ignored person had posted in order to not wreck the game. If it wasn't a game, one had the option of not clicking on the post, thereby continuing to ignore that poster.
Maybe it is, as you say, a rarity for posters here to ignore each other, at least in a game, but, believe me, it wasn't rare at IMDb. :)
That's the system Yoda had here but some posters started asking for it to be completely invisible. I dont play the games but if he can change it to that without too much effort it seems like a plan for the gamers.
Stirchley
05-22-17, 04:29 PM
That's the system Yoda had here but some posters started asking for it to be completely invisible. I dont play the games but if he can change it to that without too much effort it seems like a plan for the gamers.
How odd that posters wanted it changed.
How odd that posters wanted it changed.
No I dont think it's odd. I found the system on imdb very irritating, especially when I would ignore a blow fly and still see they were following me around boards. I can understand why some people here just dont want to see it. Each to their own, though.
EDIT: ah, I see some of this was already said. Sorry for the redundancy.
What they had at IMDb.com, which I think is the best way, was in the thread you saw something like "you are ignoring this poster" or words to that effect. One then had the option of clicking on that post IN A GAME because one had to see what the ignored person had posted in order to not wreck the game. If it wasn't a game, one had the option of not clicking on the post, thereby continuing to ignore that poster.
Maybe it is, as you say, a rarity for posters here to ignore each other, at least in a game, but, believe me, it wasn't rare at IMDb. :)
That's exactly what we had a few months ago and, amusingly, it was the new people from IMDB who wanted the change, because a) they didn't want to even be reminded of the person and/or b) it tempted them to look at the posts anyway. My memory is that pretty much everyone either wanted the change, or had no objection, though it's probably fair to say the potential effect on games didn't occur to most of us.
Anyway, we made this change over two months ago, so I'm guessing this hasn't actually happened yet. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be proactive, but that's worth considering when measuring the downsides of each.
Thoughts on excluding just the one forum? Open invitation for anyone to comment on that potential solution.
Stirchley
05-22-17, 04:35 PM
EDIT: ah, I see some of this was already said. Sorry for the redundancy.
That's exactly what we had a few months ago and, amusingly, it was the new people from IMDB who wanted the change, because a) they didn't want to even be reminded of the person and/or b) it tempted them to look at the posts anyway. My memory is that pretty much everyone either wanted the change, or had no objection, though it's probably fair to say the potential effect on games didn't occur to most of us.
Anyway, we made this change over two months ago, so I'm guessing this hasn't actually happened yet. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be proactive, but that's worth considering when measuring the downsides of each.
Thoughts on excluding just the one forum? Open invitation for anyone to comment on that potential solution.
LOL. That's funny, but I can see how people would never want to see someone they hate. There were a lot of emotions at IMDb. I think excluding the games forum is your best bet then.
Sexy Celebrity
06-07-17, 01:06 AM
Ive taken Nostromo87 & Sexy Celebrity off Ignore User.
What?!
Iroquois
06-07-17, 01:11 AM
I know, right? He's making a huge mistake.
Sexy Celebrity
06-07-17, 02:36 AM
TONGO
Does this mean it's time to play your Survivor 9? With me in it.
TONGO
Does this mean it's time to play your Survivor 9? With me in it.
:eek: :nope:
TheUsualSuspect
06-07-17, 08:40 AM
Does he have anyone on ignore now?
I had someone on ignore within days of joining, it messed up the flow of one of the games, took the person off ignore and now just don't play the same game as this person and don't read any posts. Simple😁
Guaporense
06-19-17, 12:50 AM
I would like for ignore to also erase posts that quote posts from the ignored user. Otherwise it doesn't make the ignored users perfectly invisible.
That was discussed earlier in the thread. It's much more difficult, technically. I took a stab at it but had no luck. I wont rule it out, but I think it's probably a really disproportionate amount of work relative to the benefit.
Mr Minio
06-19-17, 01:26 AM
I only have one person on ignore. Mr Mino that rampallian!!!
Wonder who has the most members on ignore! 😁
Miss Vicky
06-29-17, 05:08 PM
Is there any way to make it so that threads that were last responded to by people on ignore don't show up when I search for new posts?
Think that might be pretty tough to code, unfortunately, but I can take a look in case I'm wrong. We talking just with New Posts? And just as the last post?
There's some funky logic here because even if I can, it would probably only be based on last post. So if five people not on ignore reply, then someone on ignore does last, it still wouldn't show up.
Much easier to bypass posts than put them on ignore, that's what i do, got no one on ignore but i ignore their posts anyway 😁
Miss Vicky
06-29-17, 06:03 PM
Think that might be pretty tough to code, unfortunately, but I can take a look in case I'm wrong. We talking just with New Posts? And just as the last post?
There's some funky logic here because even if I can, it would probably only be based on last post. So if five people not on ignore reply, then someone on ignore does last, it still wouldn't show up.
I figured it might be too complicated, but yes I meant just the last post. It's not a major issue, just kind of annoying anyway.
Guaporense
07-03-17, 01:22 PM
Wonder who has the most members on ignore! 😁
I have 21 people in my ignore list. That's like 1/4 of all active users. :D In my case I guess it's better that way so that it prevents any unproductive conversation.
Wonder who has the most members on ignore! 😁
I have 21 people in my ignore list. That's like 1/4 of all active users. :D In my case I guess it's better that way so that it prevents any unproductive conversation.
Wow that is a lot! I like to play the quizzes though so rather than mess up the flow of a game i just ignore certain people, when i recognise their avatars i by pass them, no longer interested in what they have to say! 😁
Guaporense
07-03-17, 04:20 PM
Wow that is a lot! I like to play the quizzes though so rather than mess up the flow of a game i just ignore certain people, when i recognise their avatars i by pass them, no longer interested in what they have to say! 😁
To me to make ignored users completely hidden improved the forum a lot. Thing is that I am a very sensitive and curious person so I got curious to click on what ignored users said even though I knew they weren't going to say anything productive and would just throw insults at me, which lead me to respond. Now they just do not exist and so things are much better.
To me to make ignored users completely hidden improved the forum a lot. Thing is that I am a very sensitive and curious person so I got curious to click on what ignored users said even though I knew they weren't going to say anything productive and would just throw insults at me, which lead me to respond. Now they just do not exist and so things are much better.
I cant imagine anyone insulting you. You're always very pleasant, Guapo.
cat_sidhe
07-03-17, 04:43 PM
Wow that is a lot! I like to play the quizzes though so rather than mess up the flow of a game i just ignore certain people, when i recognise their avatars i by pass them, no longer interested in what they have to say! 😁
To me to make ignored users completely hidden improved the forum a lot. Thing is that I am a very sensitive and curious person so I got curious to click on what ignored users said even though I knew they weren't going to say anything productive and would just throw insults at me, which lead me to respond. Now they just do not exist and so things are much better.
I asked Yoda once if entire threads could be ignored. I find that a more pleasant option than ignoring users, as it may just be that certain topics bring out the wort in them (straight face now, Dani8), but otherwise you'd have great conversations over films.
But it sounded like a lot of work, and maybe it's just me who thinks threads should be given the individual adieu.
Probably too much work, and he's probably celebrating this weekend.
LOL I just noticed what you did there.
Wow that is a lot! I like to play the quizzes though so rather than mess up the flow of a game i just ignore certain people, when i recognise their avatars i by pass them, no longer interested in what they have to say! 😁
To me to make ignored users completely hidden improved the forum a lot. Thing is that I am a very sensitive and curious person so I got curious to click on what ignored users said even though I knew they weren't going to say anything productive and would just throw insults at me, which lead me to respond. Now they just do not exist and so things are much better.
Ahhh i'm the opposite, i'm not a curious person, i'm very inquisitive though, always like to ask questions if i don't understand something. So when a person who is on your ignore list posts something, what do you see?
Stirchley
07-03-17, 05:32 PM
So when a person who is on your ignore list posts something, what do you see?
You see nothing. The only way you see what they posted is if someone else quotes them.
Captain Steel
07-14-17, 12:29 AM
Where is the "Pay-Attention-To" button?
Stirchley
07-14-17, 02:19 PM
Where is the "Pay-Attention-To" button?
On my desk.
Jeff Costello
08-27-17, 09:41 AM
Yoda I found "ignore option" to be a very useful tool, however I have few suggestions that could possibly maximize its effect.
- Automatic deleting of quoted posts from a person you have on your list
- Removing them from a " who's online " section
- Making the threads they created invisible, as well as the last post in the thread they responded
Is there a way these options could be implemented ? They'd make an ignore option much more effective.
Yoda I found "ignore option" to be a very useful tool, however I have few suggestions that could possibly maximize its effect.
- Automatic deleting of quoted posts from a person you have on your list
- Removing them from a " who's online " section
- Making the threads they created invisible, as well as the last post in the thread they responded
Is there a way these options could be implemented ? They'd make an ignore option much more effective.
Hey Jeff.
All of these have been discussed, most of them earlier in the thread. Not saying that as a scold, just to let you know we've considered a lot of the possibilities here. But there are some complications, particularly with that last one, where I think it would create a fair number of problems with basic forum usage.
The first one (about quotes) is far and away the most sensible, but it proved to be a more complicated technical challenge than I'd expected. The code that formats quotes has some scope issues and it got to the point where I would've had to really dedicate a lot of time to unpacking it all for, ultimately, a feature that very few users are using, so I had to prioritize other things.
Adding to that is that, well, I don't know how effective I want ignore to be. I think it's a strictly necessary feature, but generally speaking I'd rather people just learn to deal with one another so the community doesn't become segmented. But that's just personal preference, and not the reason the feature hasn't been expanded or anything.
I cant imagine anyone insulting you. You're always very pleasant, Guapo.
lol! He should put that in his sig.
21 ?! Wow. I only have 3 left on mine
Im curious if Im on anyones Ignore User list. Of course if I am theres no way of knowing since they got me on ignore. :indifferent:
Captain Steel
08-28-17, 01:49 PM
lol! He should put that in his sig.
21 ?! Wow. I only have 3 left on mine
Im curious if Im on anyones Ignore User list. Of course if I am theres no way of knowing since they got me on ignore. :indifferent:
You're not on mine Tongo. That's because I don't have one.
And for anyone who "keeps" an ignore list - get off the internet and get back in the playpen, you've got some growing up to do.
Boy, I am acerbic today! ;)
Jeff Costello
08-28-17, 02:00 PM
Hey Jeff.
All of these have been discussed, most of them earlier in the thread. Not saying that as a scold, just to let you know we've considered a lot of the possibilities here. But there are some complications, particularly with that last one, where I think it would create a fair number of problems with basic forum usage.
The first one (about quotes) is far and away the most sensible, but it proved to be a more complicated technical challenge than I'd expected. The code that formats quotes has some scope issues and it got to the point where I would've had to really dedicate a lot of time to unpacking it all for, ultimately, a feature that very few users are using, so I had to prioritize other things.
Adding to that is that, well, I don't know how effective I want ignore to be. I think it's a strictly necessary feature, but generally speaking I'd rather people just learn to deal with one another so the community doesn't become segmented. But that's just personal preference, and not the reason the feature hasn't been expanded or anything.
Understood ! Not a big deal or anything but it's sometimes distracting having a poster you have on ignore list constantly appearing on the front page. So that's mainly why I was proposing the third option. If you don't mind asking, in what way would the basic forum usage be compromised ? I'm just curious... As for the first option, yeah that's something that would definitely come in handy. No rush though, as I'm sure you have more important things to prioritize and dealing with coding difficulties surely takes away a big amount of time. Thanks for the answer, Yoda !
If you don't mind asking, in what way would the basic forum usage be compromised ? I'm just curious...
Don't mind you asking at all. :) I'm mostly concerned with how to handle situations where a lot of posts in a thread are new, and from people not on ignore, but the very last post is from them. Should that still show up in New Posts? Stuff like that. Anything which could cause non-intuitive or unpredictable behavior with the basic act of posting and browsing threads is something I'm always loathe to mess with.
The Last Poster stuff is a good example of how this stuff can get complicated fast: right now it's a static field in the database, so to hide that we'd be looking at a whole second field to store the next-to-last poster, and it'd have to be done on a per-user basis rather than a per-post basis (in case the ignored poster posts twice at the end), and then that needs to be updated in the script that deletes posts...and so on. Gets crazy fast. :dizzy:
As for the first option, yeah that's something that would definitely come in handy. No rush though, as I'm sure you have more important things to prioritize and dealing with coding difficulties surely takes away a big amount of time. Thanks for the answer, Yoda !
No worries, thanks for the suggestions. I would like to take another crack at the quote thing, just because it really bugs me when I think I should be able to do something and don't quite figure it out. :laugh: And in this case the suggestion does make a lot of sense. Maybe I'll try again at some point.
lol! He should put that in his sig.
21 ?! Wow. I only have 3 left on mine
Im curious if Im on anyones Ignore User list. Of course if I am theres no way of knowing since they got me on ignore. :indifferent:
Yeah I probably spoke too soon. I've since seen he has his moments.
No you're not on mine obviously. I would miss your avatar :drevil: Only using that emoji because he looks like he;s picking his nose which makes me laugh.
Stirchley
08-28-17, 07:15 PM
And for anyone who "keeps" an ignore list - get off the internet and get back in the playpen, you've got some growing up to do.
That makes no sense. I'm here to enjoy myself & if someone makes me miserable that person is going into ignore. Life is too short to deal with that.
That makes no sense. I'm here to enjoy myself & if someone makes me miserable that person is going into ignore. Life is too short to deal with that.
Yeah anyone that says using the Ignore User list is stunting themselves from human development and it's a sign of weakness must consider ....... does that pertain to all the people that put themselves on the national telemarketing Do Not Call list?!
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=34093&d=1504012339
Yeah anyone that says using the Ignore User list is stunting themselves from human development and it's a sign of weakness must consider ....... does that pertain to all the people that put themselves on the national telemarketing Do Not Call list?!
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=34093&d=1504012339
Yeah that argument has come up before and I dont get it. I avoid people in the real world who get up my nose. Hell, I even avoid my mechanic's cranky old dog who charges at people and gives a nip. I come him for fun, not to be barked at or have cat crap thrown at me in the sand pit. if ignore gives people n intermission from debbie downers I dont see what the problem is.:shrug:
Jeff Costello
08-29-17, 03:00 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with Dani and Stirchley on the subject matter. If we already have the option which enables us to create an enviromement we feel comfortable with, than why wouldn't we use it ? Most of us come here to enjoy and have fun , so why wouldn't we be proactive with things that prevent us from doing so . Clever remarks above which suggest we're immature and have no business being on the internet (joke or not?) because we're keeping an ignore list are not only unmitigated nonsense, but also indignant and condescending as well.
I've never seen a forum that didnt have the function.
I wholeheartedly agree with Dani and Stirchley on the subject matter. If we already have the option which enables us to create an enviromement we feel comfortable with, than why wouldn't we use it ? Most of us come here to enjoy and have fun , so why wouldn't we be proactive with things that prevent us from doing so . Clever remarks above which suggest we're immature and have no business being on the internet (joke or not?) because we're keeping an ignore list are not only unmitigated nonsense, but also indignant and condescending as well.
Commenting about people that use the Ignore User function as indignant & condescending, might be accurate in some cases, and inaccurate in others. Some people overuse it at times :blush:, but to never ignore at all would be somewhat ignorant :cool: < Clever play on words, me am smart.
Now as for certain IU tweaks requested....I agree I wish theres a way to make their Quotes disappear. One of the 3 I have on Ignore is there because he likes to give Spoilers in a tongue n cheek fashion. So when he is quoted it kinda defeats the purpose, but hey, IU is better than nothing.
As for erasing any thread they open from being seen......well that goes beyond a tweak in the IU function. That actually falls more in line with something rarely if ever discussed here at MoFo. Beyond the Ignore User, BEYOND a banning even! That would fall in line with the Ultimate Nullifier Ban :yup:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=34101&d=1504032106
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=34102&d=1504032114
This is a ban that would erase any and all proof that the person ever posted at MoFo, would not just ban them, but erase every post and thread they ever made. "Too much?" you may ask? Well, yeah probably :laugh: Even someone we dont like can come up with a good thread idea, and that overkill would only do more harm to our experience and not theirs.
I usually run my own version of the internet voight kampf test. When I find a flake, I keep them on the flake list and never take them seriously unless they profoundly break through, which, never happens/
I usually ignore them without using the ignore list, it works for me, i just skip past their posts.
I usually ignore them without using the ignore list, it works for me, i just skip past their posts.
So do I and found that pretty useful on imdb but sometimes a rabid barking dog needs to be muzzled. I wish I had an ignore function for the poor dog over the back fence.
Citizen Rules
08-29-17, 04:17 PM
@Jeff Costello (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=96380) @TONGO (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=48031)
Have you guys tried the Grease Monkey add on for Firefox, Chrome or Android, to block quoted post and avatars from people on your ignore list? That might do just what you guys want. I don't know I haven't tried it and don't have anyone on my ignore list.
So do I and found that pretty useful on imdb but sometimes a rabid barking dog needs to be muzzled. I wish I had an ignore function for the poor dog over the back fence.
who is the rabid barking dog dani8 ? anybody attacking your country ( australia ) or your religion ( christianity ) ? tell me , i shall deal with him :D
Alright, fair play both of you. ;)
Anyway, this issue was decided long ago (the ignore thing), so no need to litigate the legitimacy of the feature itself. It exists for a reason and will continue to exist in one form or another. I imagine we probably all agree that it should exist, and that it can be abused, like anything else.
I'll leave this thread open a bit longer in case people have any new ideas or feedback.
I think it's fine as it is. There if people need it. Those who dont feel the need dont have to.
Act III
02-11-23, 12:43 AM
I tried to ignore someone because I dont like their avatar piercing a laser hole thru my head into the back of my brain, but although I put them on ignore, their avatar is still showing on the "whos online" section. So, ignoring them has no real useful effect for me as it isnt their words that bother me.
Wyldesyde19
02-11-23, 01:25 AM
Basically, ignore works fine as is intended, but you’d like a function to avoid seeing one’s avatar.
Miss Vicky
02-11-23, 01:28 AM
Now I'm curious as to whose avatar is so offensive.
Citizen Rules
02-11-23, 03:01 AM
Wait a minute! I just realized the space guys in my avatar appear to be caring laser guns:eek:
Mr Minio
02-11-23, 05:32 AM
I tried to ignore someone because I dont like their avatar https://i.imgur.com/MX8Y20N.gif
Act III
02-11-23, 10:20 PM
Now I'm curious as to whose avatar is so offensive.
Not offensive. Hurts my eyes.
Stirchley
02-13-23, 02:35 PM
I tried to ignore someone because I dont like their avatar piercing a laser hole thru my head into the back of my brain, but although I put them on ignore, their avatar is still showing on the "whos online" section. So, ignoring them has no real useful effect for me as it isnt their words that bother me.
Don’t think I have ever looked at the who’s online section. Do you go there often?
John McClane
02-13-23, 02:46 PM
how bout big flashing lights around the ignored posts? à la Las Vegas strip? no? yeah, i didn't think it through. think of the carbon foot print
Chypmunk
02-13-23, 02:55 PM
How about using an impression of a foot print in a layer of carbon to obscure each respective post?
(due credit goes to John McClane for planting the seeds for this idea)
Citizen Rules
02-13-23, 03:06 PM
Not offensive. Hurts my eyes.Take at look at Stirchley's profile banner:eek: You'll need sunglasses:)
Act III
02-13-23, 11:56 PM
Don’t think I have ever looked at the who’s online section. Do you go there often?
You cant avoid the Who's Online section.
https://i.imgur.com/SUJdoVW.png
Act III
02-13-23, 11:56 PM
Take at look at Stirchley's profile banner:eek: You'll need sunglasses:)
Tinted contacts.
;^)
You cant avoid the Who's Online section.
https://i.imgur.com/SUJdoVW.png
True, but I'm confused because those ones aren't animated. I assumed you were talking about something like that. You're saying it's just a color?
Stirchley
02-15-23, 01:31 PM
You cant avoid the Who's Online section.
Trust me, I can. Can’t say I’m particularly interested in who is online & I honestly don’t ever recall checking it out. Good to know though, I guess.
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