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matt72582
02-24-17, 05:49 PM
Let's vet :)
I'm curious how new members feel about the place, coming from IMDB myself a few years ago.
Or what members in here think?
I wonder if things will change, enough to notice... I'd like to think (like any refugee) that with a solid foundation, it only widens our spectrum, makes everyone better.
Little Devil
02-24-17, 06:00 PM
Well, it beats the crap out of IMDB, that's for sure.
The long term residents have been generally nice and helpful.
There are some technicalities I'm still finding out [ex: only a few minutes ago I found out how to leave a comment], but overall it's pretty simple to follow.
I think it's a very good cyber experience of culture clash and assimilation for 'old timers' and 'immigrants' in the real world. Takes a bit of time for dust to settle as strangers on both sides figure out the culture, lingo, private jokes etc. It's a new adventure in learning about people IMO. Would be a great cultural studies topic.
Nestorio_Miklos
02-24-17, 06:14 PM
Let's vet :)
I'm curious how new members feel about the place, coming from IMDB myself a few years ago.
Or what members in here think?
I wonder if things will change, enough to notice... I'd like to think (like any refugee) that with a solid foundation, it only widens our spectrum, makes everyone better.
I like the place. When you post a review you always get a feedback, people are nice here, and web is well organized. Also I don't see any aggressive adds or popups.
What do you mean by "if things will change, enough to notice"? Could you please explain little more? What should change and "to notice" what? Thanks
What do you mean by "if things will change, enough to notice"? Could you please explain little more? What should change and "to notice" what? Thanks
I think what Matt means is on forums like this that are well established, just like in real life, a sudden influx can, or can be seen, to change the regular balance. I think that's just a normal human/tribal reaction.
The Rodent
02-24-17, 06:50 PM
The balance on MoFo has changed already tbh, but in a good way.
In the past 2 weeks, I've seen a huge jump in amount of posts, and the game threads have all exploded too :)
There's numerous threads that normally would get a few replies, then die off... but there's been an influx of conversations going on and intelligent discussion and to add to that, more and more older threads gaining a new lease of life as well.
Sure, there's concern from the old-timers, including me, that some of the trolls from IMDb will arrive here and try to carry on their flame wars... but they won't last long due to the team of moderators... and won't last long due to the fact that the IMDb refugees who are currently here aren't the trolling type.
As far as I've seen, apart from that slight rocky start 2 weeks ago between a few of the refugees and a couple of the long-term MoFos, everything has been pretty solid :up:
matt72582
02-24-17, 06:55 PM
I like the place. When you post a review you always get a feedback, people are nice here, and web is well organized. Also I don't see any aggressive adds or popups.
What do you mean by "if things will change, enough to notice"? Could you please explain little more? What should change and "to notice" what? Thanks
It could be anything. Certain people bring certain things out of other people. Some new members might revive old posts. One example are topics started, but that died down quicker than usual because there weren't enough people familiar. If it's revived, maybe people who signed up a year ago see it.
Maybe new ideas? Maybe we have someone from a country who has a ton of great recommendations. I imagine some will talk more or talk less depending on what's being discussed...
I think it's a good thing. I've probably talked to a few on IMDB, and we have a nice foundation here. You won't see spamming, etc..
So far I've liked everyone who has moved over. Even you, Little Devil, despite our Witch fight. :D
cat_sidhe
02-24-17, 07:01 PM
I feel a bit naked but otherwise ok? :lol:
Miss Vicky
02-24-17, 07:07 PM
Eh, I like some of the newbs, but also don't like some of them.
Which is how I feel about the MoFo regulars too. So I guess, aside from some bumps in the road, so far so good?
cat_sidhe
02-24-17, 07:10 PM
^^ This!
Sexy Celebrity
02-24-17, 07:12 PM
Really doesn't seem all that different to me here. I think the whole "IMDB phenomenon" has been overblown. There's always new people showing up here. Some stay for awhile and then disappear. This will be no different. Only the truly crazy and bizarre last here.
Really doesn't seem all that different to me here. I think the whole "IMDB phenomenon" has been overblown. There's always new people showing up here. Some stay for awhile and then disappear. This will be no different. Only the truly crazy and bizarre last here.
NO SEXY THIS IS A BIG MOMENT WE ARE GONNA BE FAMOUS
Little Devil
02-24-17, 07:15 PM
So far I've liked everyone who has moved over. Even you, Little Devil, despite our Witch fight. :D
I have no ill feelings for you mate. Just found it unnecessary and rather provocative. But all is good.:)
You won't see spamming, etc..
I spam, but mostly about recipes to try in the Mofo mouthgasm thread (not about spam in food, though; that stuff is pure evil!), and funny pet videos, or just really stupid crap like this that my nephew sends me
https://www.facebook.com/theaafnation/videos/1269568819778256/
I like IMDb members. Mainly because we can slowly turn them into weirdos that can only survive in MoFo and nowhere else on the Internet. :D
I like IMDb members. Mainly because we can slowly turn them into weirdos that can only survive in MoFo and nowhere else on the Internet. :DIf I could just retain the ability to use eBay and Amazon that would be great, thanks.
Citizen Rules
02-24-17, 08:56 PM
Good question Matt, a couple weeks ago when it was announced that IMDB was closing i's discussion boards, I feared 100's and 100's of IMDB members would come here, swamping us. I figured most would be cool, but you know IMDB is where people went to bash other people, and I hate that.
So far my fears were unwarranted, as we haven't been swamped by tons of new users and they are getting along fine. Which reminds me of the Y2K panic at the turn of the millennium.
I like it a lot. I've got my buds from IMDB here, I've got plenty of room to have actual discussions without people threatening to kill/doxx me, people actually LISTEN to me and take my points into consideration even if they don't always agree with them and, best of all, NO POSTING QUOTA! :D
I also love that this board is moderated and that what few fires almost started were quickly doused. It's still an adjustment period but I'm getting used to it. :)
Sexy Celebrity
02-24-17, 09:03 PM
You guys should try doing one of our movie commentaries. To really experience... the unlimited posting experience.
I would also like to add that I'm trying to shed some of that IMDB stain as I go along. People here aren't aggressive or confrontational but, because I'm so used to people attacking me, I'm still adjusting and sometimes take what people say around here the wrong way. I'm quickly learning, though, that every here seems to mean well.
As Dani and a couple others stated, it's a different culture around here.
PS: I'm very happy to hear that several of you regs are enjoying us here. It makes me feel more comfortable here. I've even started branching out lately and posting in all sorts of different threads. I think we'll all do well here.:)
Good question Matt, a couple weeks ago when it was announced that IMDB was closing i's discussion boards, I feared 100's and 100's of IMDB members would come here, swamping us. I figured most would be cool, but you know IMDB is where people went to bash other people, and I hate that.
So far my fears were unwarranted, as we haven't been swamped by tons of new users and they are getting along fine. Which reminds me of the Y2K panic at the turn of the millennium.We tried keeping the link quiet due to us having a pretty dedicated pack of trolls that follow us around, so far only 4 have followed us over... one was banned already, 2 are quiet after some initial trolling and Joby was doxed on the last day of the IMDb forums to the extent I'd be surprised to ever see him on the internet again.
We're talking name, address, DoB, facial pics, personal videos, links upon links of sites he goes to as himself instead of the Joby persona...as doxing goes, it wasn't pretty.
It helps a large number of the trolls claimed to be making their own site, but there's no telling if they'll get bored trolling each other and start branching out, especially with some of them already having followed us here...
Sexy Celebrity
02-24-17, 09:08 PM
dteam6, shame on you for joining under such a boring name.
Why not be "Super Mario" or something? Ask Yoda to change it.
dteam6, shame on you for joining under such a boring name.
Why not be "Super Mario" or something? Ask Yoda to change it.Oh yeah, sorry about him, we can't take him anywhere....
Little Devil
02-24-17, 09:19 PM
dteam6, shame on you for joining under such a boring name.
Why not be "Super Mario" or something? Ask Yoda to change it.
We asked between ourselves to keep the same nicknames for easy recognition [I couldn't keep my long ass nickname, so I just cut it to Little Devil].
Little Devil
02-24-17, 09:22 PM
Oh yeah, sorry about him, we can't take him anywhere....
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4f/22/18/4f22187cc26d1dee446e81cef6d61270.gif
Citizen Rules
02-24-17, 09:46 PM
Are you guys who were friends on IMDB around the same age? Are you teens or older?
Are you guys who were friends on IMDB around the same age? Are you teens or older?Well out of our teens across the board... I think we have the 30's, 40's and 50's covered between us.. Possibly the 20's too...
Little Devil
02-24-17, 10:06 PM
Are you guys who were friends on IMDB around the same age? Are you teens or older?
I'm 37.
Citizen Rules
02-24-17, 10:07 PM
Well out of our teens across the board... I think we have the 30's, 40's and 50's covered between us.. Possibly the 20's too...
I'm 37. Cool, I'm glad to have a mix of age ranges here, it makes it more interesting.:)
Little Devil
02-24-17, 10:09 PM
Cool, I'm glad to have a mix of age ranges here, it makes it more interesting.:)
And different nationalities as well. :)
Citizen Rules
02-24-17, 10:10 PM
And different nationalities as well. :) Totally a good thing! MoFo is as diversified as I've seen.
Little Devil
02-24-17, 10:15 PM
Totally a good thing! MoFo is as diversified as I've seen.
It's always fun to learn about other people's cultural background and how it may/may not mold their way of thinking.
Though I have no intention to discuss politics [little less of a foreign country to mine] I enjoy reading the different views [ex: on the Trump thread].
cricket
02-24-17, 10:22 PM
For me it's overwhelming but exciting, especially since I haven't had much time lately. It is definitely a great thing that will just take a little getting used to.
Are you guys who were friends on IMDB around the same age? Are you teens or older?
I never ask age. I just take people the way I find them. I was very surprised on the last day on imdb to find a guy come out and say he was 18. I had been on that board for several years and his announcement surprised everyone. Very impressive, eloquent poster. Some times it's just better not knowing a pigeonhole age bracket, if you know what I mean.
Citizen Rules
02-24-17, 10:49 PM
I never ask age. I just take people the way I find them. I was very surprised on the last day on imdb to find a guy come out and say he was 18. I had been on that board for several years and his announcement surprised everyone. Very impressive, eloquent poster. Some times it's just better not knowing a pigeonhole age bracket, if you know what I mean.I'm guessing you are in your 60s?
TJLamb0518
02-24-17, 10:52 PM
I like pie.
http://chuckpalahniuk.net/files/nerds-hairpie-1.jpg
http://chuckpalahniuk.net/files/nerds-hairpie-1.jpg
I'm not even going to ask how long you've been sitting on that card waiting to play it.
Sexy Celebrity
02-24-17, 11:07 PM
I'm not even going to ask how long you've been sitting on that card waiting to play it.
Can't you get a nice Jason Voorhees avatar again?!
I'm guessing you are in your 60s?
LOL. Does my walking frame give me away, Rules?
No I'm not there yet but this is the internet so if you want me to be 60 I'll put on my granny pants and bifocals, and tell you about the olden days 200 years ago.
Captain Steel
02-24-17, 11:26 PM
Resistance is futile.
Citizen Rules
02-24-17, 11:31 PM
LOL. Does my walking frame give me away, Rules?
No I'm not there yet but this is the internet so if you want me to be 60 I'll put on my granny pants and bifocals, and tell you about the olden days 200 years ago.
No, there's nothing about your post that suggest a specific age, nor do I care. But the fact that you felt the need to fuss at me, because of my general & friendly inquiry about the age range of the new members, tells me, your sensitive about your age.
No I don't care what age you are, I'm approaching my mid 50s and I'm happy to talk to anyone regardless of their age. I just said as much a couple post ago. I've found people in my own age group have some of the same memories about growing up and old TV shows and such so it's interesting to know if a poster is a male or female, where they are from, what general age range they are, etc. Sorry you were offended by my general question relating to age ranges.
LOL I wasn't offended nor did I fuss at you. this reminds me of your reaction in my Twilight thread calling me a troll then admitting you didnt read the thread.
Wooo weekend drinkies. I'll grab a sherry nd join you.
http://i.qkme.me/3qhwo4.jpg
Captain Steel
02-24-17, 11:40 PM
I'm glad for the new IMDB folks because now I can test whether my mutant thread killing ability is biological or merely a social construct created by the demographic make-up of the MoFo.
Any newbs who want to join my self-depricating Thread-Killer club, sign up here:
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=47741
Can't you get a nice Jason Voorhees avatar again?!Oh fine, Back by apathetic demand.... TA DA!!
If I could just retain the ability to use eBay and Amazon that would be great, thanks.
Heh, I haven't used both sites in many months.
Chypmunk
02-25-17, 02:09 AM
For what it's worth (not a lot admittedly) I like how the Mofo tree has gently and for the most part good-naturedly been shaken. Look at all the cool new features we have already .... things we most likely wouldn't have seen sight of until next month at least were it not for the 'influx' :)
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 03:08 AM
I like this board a lot because of how very eclectic it is. The crowd and culture did not take any special adjustment for me. My adjustment to this forum was mostly of technical nature.
I was and still am surprised how much nicer people are on here. I really haven't seen anything close to the viciousness of some IMDB posters which is a really good thing.
Little Devil
02-25-17, 06:10 AM
"That gum you like is going to come back in style." .https://media.giphy.com/media/6RfIDQXPxOPGE/giphy.gif
For what it's worth (not a lot admittedly) I like how the Mofo tree has gently and for the most part good-naturedly been shaken. Look at all the cool new features we have already .... things we most likely wouldn't have seen sight of until next month at least were it not for the 'influx' :)
Oh was that for lil ole us? Gee, boat people don't get that red carpet roll out when they come to Australia. They get escorted off shore and thrown over the razor wire, left to rot for years. The Shogun here seems much more benevolent, even if he is green and teeny.
https://media.giphy.com/media/peAFQfg7Ol6IE/giphy.gif
Oh was that for lil ole us? Gee, boat people don't get that red carpet roll out when they come to Australia. They get escorted off shore and thrown over the razor wire, left to rot for years. The Shogun here seems much more benevolent, even if he is green and teeny.
Wow I am NEVER visiting Australia... first the accents are fake, now you guys murder tourists!
Wow I am NEVER visiting Australia... first the accents are fake, now you guys murder tourists!
Haven't you ever seen Wolf Creek and WCII, Odum? I told you, the only thing here that doesnt kill people is that furry marsupial on the left. She'll just steal your credit cards and travellers cheques.
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 01:35 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/6RfIDQXPxOPGE/giphy.gif
:D
Loved that character on Twin Peaks. Really sad he will not be in the reboot and disturbed by what he said about Lynch. He sounded really bitter about not being invited back.
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 01:40 PM
What did he say, D?
I didn't want to post it on here just so it doesn't look like I'm perpetuating something that is very likely a lie, but here it is.
http://imgur.com/a/a4V4b
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 01:41 PM
What did he say, D?
Lynch's daughter also denied this.
http://www.tv3.ie/xpose/article/entertainment-news/213252/Jennifer-Lynch-defends-her-dad-after-Twin-Peaks-stars-Facebook-rant-goes-public
Woah that's some pretty serious sour grapes.
Don't believe that at all. Not just saying that because i love Lynch but c'mon he raped his daughter and had his friend killed and he decided to tell this to the person he told to kill himself? :rolleyes:
Too bad, i love Michael on Twin Peaks, Mulholland Drive and Carnivale.
If that really is from Michael and not a clone troll I wouldn't be surprised if he gets sued. Pretty damn stupid thing to put on social media. I thought Lynch's daughter's response was pretty decent in view of what was said.
If that really is from Michael and not a clone troll I wouldn't be surprised if he gets sued.The way he worded it, he specifically said he DIDN'T do those things, extremely sarcastically, sure, but he covered his butt from legal repercussions
I'd be surprised if a lawsuit against him was successful.
it does come across as very sarcastic, but I imagine it would depend on how much the gutter press ran with it and exploited it (although I'm not sure why those sewer rats arent sued more often.
Is there no further context? What did he say before that? He obviously must have said something before that because he doesn't say Lynch once, he says "he" and noone would have known who he was talking about unless he had mentioned Lynch prior to it.
It takes a really small man to lie like that.
Little Devil
02-25-17, 02:17 PM
:D
Loved that character on Twin Peaks. Really sad he will not be in the reboot and disturbed by what he said about Lynch. He sounded really bitter about not being invited back.The dude must be pretty high on Garmonbozia.
https://snaretapsandbeartraps.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/fl-duke_eyes.gif
According to this - http://www.alternativenation.net/michael-j-anderson-accuses-twin-peaks-filmmaker-david-lynch-of-being-a-pedophile-rapist-murderer/
Jack Nance was the friend he had killed. Jesus.
Who owns alternative nation?
Jeff Costello
02-25-17, 02:27 PM
Yeah, MJA's facebook is also filled with anti-Semitic stuff, conspiracy theories and blaming of "Jews of Hollywood" for the fact he cannot find work.
Sherilyn Fenn is almost equally unbearable on twitter.
Oh good grief. Yep definitely sour grapes. Jew bashing and conspiracy theories - just shaking my head.
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 02:31 PM
The way Jennifer Lynch worded her response made me think she and her father must be aware of some mental or substance issues he has been going through. She worded her response by both denying his accusations and voicing concern. This is also somewhat old news back from Aug 2015. Apparently it was a salary dispute that created this.
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 02:36 PM
Who owns alternative nation?
http://www.alternativenation.net/staff/
The way Jennifer Lynch worded her response made me think she and her father must be aware of some mental or substance issues he has been going through. She worded her response by both denying his accusations and voicing concern. This is also somewhat old news back from Aug 2015. Apparently it was a salary dispute that created this.
That was my impression as well.
Wow the imdb refugee threads sure get some interesting hijacks. Learning something new every day.
d_chatterley
02-25-17, 02:46 PM
Wow the imdb refugee threads sure get some interesting hijacks.
I have to be careful with that. It is unintentional, but it can be aggravating to the OP. I should have started a new thread or something. Sorry matt72582..
Jeff Costello
02-25-17, 02:49 PM
There's a good reason for MJA's absence in s3 though ...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/81/cf/4e/81cf4e85296a789ba2b41b65c5795f4e.jpg
I have to be careful with that. It is unintentional, but it can be aggravating to the OP. I should have started a new thread or something. Sorry matt72582..
I like the chitty chat in these threads, especially if it brings in regs to chat but OK I'll hijack back to matt's OP for you.:)
I thought more about this assimilation theme early this morning. For me it's like a travel experience, just based on my own traipsing around the world. Some foreigners dive in as soon as they arrive, some stand back and watch before saying much, some locals are all welcoming, some get a bit nervous, some foreigners like to debrief in their expat community etc. Not just here, but established forums I have experienced over the years.
Are you guys who were friends on IMDB around the same age? Are you teens or older?
I'm 32 myself. As far as I know, none of us are younger than the 30's+ range.
Totally a good thing! MoFo is as diversified as I've seen.
Yep. I'm American but everything thinks I'm Canadian upon first impression. Not sure why, but that's how it is. :)
Happy weekend, dt. Are you working today?
Oh fine, Back by apathetic demand.... TA DA!!
I'll always favor your ever-changing Superman ones, Odum. I can't help it--those are my favorites. :D
Yep. I'm American but everything thinks I'm Canadian upon first impression. Not sure why, but that's how it is. :)Wait... you're NOT Canadian?
Wait... you're NOT Canadian?
Are Canucks still building a wall to keep the Yanks out?
I'll always favor your ever-changing Superman ones, Odum. I can't help it--those are my favorites. :DI think I have them all on photobucket....
for some reason people really loved the Godzilla one...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h178/Odum_Carlock/godzillasod_zpsd64db4b5.gif
Happy weekend, dt. Are you working today?
And a happy weekend to you, Dani! :cool:
Nope, not working today. Just dropping in for a bit. Heading out in an hour for dinner with the wife and a bit of evening shopping.
She recently bought a prop-size Captain America shield and we're looking for those wall hooks that don't require nails. We're going to hang it on the wall. She's a major Captain America fan.
What's funny is that I'm a bigger Iron Man fan and those two recently dueled. :laugh:
I want to eventually get an Iron Man prop for the wall and perhaps Thor's hammer. Odum's hammer and shield combo made me realize how great a combination the hammer and shield are.
Enjoy your night. Say Hi to Mrs Deat for me. What kind of restaurant?
I want to eventually get an Iron Man prop for the wall and perhaps Thor's hammer. Odum's hammer and shield combo made me realize how great a combination the hammer and shield are.
Trendsetting even to my brothers in the great white North!
I need to get a shelf for Mjolnir, once I replaced the small tv I had to remove all that shelving to make room for the big one and it has nowhere to sit now besides on top of a cabinet off to the side and it looks better right underneath the shield...
Wait... you're NOT Canadian?
Don't let on--but I'm not really Mario either. I'm a fraud. :shifty:
I think I have them all on photobucket....
for some reason people really loved the Godzilla one...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h178/Odum_Carlock/godzillasod_zpsd64db4b5.gif
HA! HA! :laugh:
Don't let on--but I'm not really Mario either. I'm a fraud. :shifty:
Ha! I bet you're just a financial refugee. Not the real deal at all. So disappointing. I don't think we can be friends any longer.
Enjoy your night. Say Hi to Mrs Deat for me. What kind of restaurant?
Thanks! I'll do that. :)
It's a steakhouse with buffet.
Trendsetting even to my brothers in the great white North!
I need to get a shelf for Mjolnir, once I replaced the small tv I had to remove all that shelving to make room for the big one and it has nowhere to sit now besides on top of a cabinet off to the side and it looks better right underneath the shield...
I won't deny it--I showed your prop pictures to my wife and that was part of what drove her to want a shield. See? Disney Marvel owes you something for advertising. ;)
Ha! I bet you're just a financial refugee. Not the real deal at all. So disappointing. I don't think we can be friends any longer.
Yeah, and my real name isn't "Dteam" either...:bawling:
Yeah, and my real name isn't "Dteam" either...:bawling:
I must spill the beans...my real name isn't Dani either. And I'm not a quokka.
Anyway, I'm out now! Have a great weekend, guys. 👍
I won't deny it--I showed your prop pictures to my wife and that was part of what drove her to want a shield. See? Disney Marvel owes you something for advertising. ;)They have a really nice metal shield on Amazon I'm going to upgrade to.. and a really nice Iron Man helmet I'm going to add to the display as well...
Little Devil
02-25-17, 04:39 PM
I must spill the beans...my real name isn't Dani either. And I'm not a quokka.https://media.tenor.co/images/67e5664cce495fa605379940412b49c8/raw
No, there's nothing about your post that suggest a specific age, nor do I care. But the fact that you felt the need to fuss at me, because of my general & friendly inquiry about the age range of the new members, tells me, your sensitive about your age.
No I don't care what age you are, I'm approaching my mid 50s and I'm happy to talk to anyone regardless of their age. I just said as much a couple post ago. I've found people in my own age group have some of the same memories about growing up and old TV shows and such so it's interesting to know if a poster is a male or female, where they are from, what general age range they are, etc. Sorry you were offended by my general question relating to age ranges.
Oh something finally twigged so I checked my PMs. Seems you do care about age. I was wondering what your reaction to me simply answering your question was all about. Very interesting.
PumaMan
02-26-17, 11:47 PM
The IMDB discussions were OK, when looking for a fact. But the number of blatant and subtle trolls kept me distant. With IMDB it was "Get in, get info, get out."
cat_sidhe
02-27-17, 01:34 AM
best of all, NO POSTING QUOTA! :D
....there was a POSTING QUOTA? O____O
Captain Steel
02-27-17, 02:09 AM
https://media.tenor.co/images/67e5664cce495fa605379940412b49c8/raw
This just reminded me that they found new planets out near Tittleman's Crest.
Little Devil
02-27-17, 06:49 AM
This just reminded me that they found new planets out near Tittleman's Crest.It's about freekin time we get some new pen pals. :p
I didn't want to post it on here just so it doesn't look like I'm perpetuating something that is very likely a lie, but here it is.
http://imgur.com/a/a4V4b
He's a loon, D. He's also going for t on fb. One of my fb friends must have commented so it turned up on my wall. The guy is out of his mind.
matt72582
03-10-17, 08:43 AM
The IMDB discussions were OK, when looking for a fact. But the number of blatant and subtle trolls kept me distant. With IMDB it was "Get in, get info, get out."
For me, it was a place where at least a few people could contribute to ANY thread... I'd come here first, and then go there, to double the pleasure.
I still finding myself going to IMDB after I watch a movie, noticing there are no message boards, and just reading the reviews -- but it's not the same. Why couldn't they leave them up, but just stop activity, like an archive.
Citizen Rules
03-10-17, 11:48 AM
For me, it was a place where at least a few people could contribute to ANY thread... I'd come here first, and then go there, to double the pleasure.
I still finding myself going to IMDB after I watch a movie, noticing there are no message boards, and just reading the reviews -- but it's not the same. Why couldn't they leave them up, but just stop activity, like an archive. Yeah, me too. I'd read the individual movie boards after watching the movie and learned a lot about the movie that way. But now they are gone! I thought they would archive them and keep the former boards visible, but nope they removed them...along with a lot of valuable insight:( Stupid IMDB:mad:
Yeah...no. The last time your posts were deleted, not only were you not being trolled, you weren't even being addressed. You went out of your way to insert yourself into someone else's conversation, just to start something.
As for the "outsider" stuff, that becomes self-fulfilling pretty quick if you decide any disagreement or resistance you run into must be because of it. And the same thing happens if you decide to assemble a few relatively benign comments (or even jokes), and extrapolate from them.
I'm only bothering to say this for the benefit of others, since I already have ample reason to doubt that any argument you make is actually in good faith. But on the off chance you actually do want to have a thoughtful discussion about how everyone's assimilating (or not), and aren't just looking to pick fights here's the thread that would go in (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=48339).
Yeah and I would like to be left out of this s well. From both sides. It has nothing to do Trump anyway.
Yeah...no. The last time your posts were deleted, not only were you not being trolled, you weren't even being addressed. You went out of your way to insert yourself into someone else's conversation, just to start something.
As for the "outsider" stuff, that becomes self-fulfilling pretty quick if you decide any disagreement or resistance you run into must be because of it. And the same thing happens if you decide to assemble a few relatively benign comments (or even jokes), and extrapolate from them.
I'm only bothering to say this for the benefit of others, since I already have ample reason to doubt that any argument you make is actually in good faith. But on the off chance you actually do want to have a thoughtful discussion about how everyone's assimilating (or not), and aren't just looking to pick fights here's the thread that would go in (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=48339).
It's pretty easy to feel like an outsider when MoFo's keep bringing it and IMDB (for the umpteenth fcking time) up when we post in threads. It's damned easy to feel like an outsider when something like that happens.
And don't think that I'm unaware of those snide comments posters have made about IMDB'ers from other threads where we weren't even causing trouble in. There is definitely an Anti-IMDB sentiment around here and more than just "the troublemakers" have sensed it.
I went weeks posting legit in this thread and that little dckhead Omni had to start in again.
And stop trying to make this out to be one or two of us "being paranoid" about there being an Anti-IMDB sentiment around here. More IMDB'ers have addressed the same with me than you think and they didn't even know that I felt the same way when they told me.
I've had ten different people tell me the same thing--you willing to call them all paranoid/blowing it out of proportion as well? Why do you think that decent posters like TJLamb (whom I've known for a few years now) and some others rarely post here anymore?
Yeah, we're getting your message loud and clear and that's why some people have already started to shove off.
But I'm sure I'm just blowing ALL of this out of proportion...:rolleyes:
Sadly, we're not. we get trolled, if we reply, our replies are deleted with ridiculous reasoning behind it that doesn't apply to the offender, (Or at least mine are) And we get constant reminders we're outsiders, with the ongoing imdb slurs.
Now we're "One Monthers"
At this point I'm proud to be a one monther considering the alternative. about the only time I hop on is when I get an email saying I got a pm. and then it's usually "go look what we're being called in this thread"
Oh and "trump" before I get THAT pm again.:rolleyes:
Say, Odum--where's TJ? Where are all the people we invited here? Why are several of the IMDB'ers that don't know us but found their way here on their own also leaving/barely posting?
Oh, that's right--because we're ALL just being paranoid of this Anti-IMDB thing, don't you know. Yep--we're ALL just blowing this out of proportion. Makes sense. :yup:
cricket
03-23-17, 09:42 AM
I know this isn't the thread for this, but since it's being discussed here I'll give my two cents. I'll preface this by saying that it's possible that I only see one side. I have seen a bit of a condescending and insulting side from some IMDb members. In this thread I have seen different posts ending with someone calling another member kid, chief, sunshine, and cupcake. Another post ended with "eat it up with a spoon luv". These are all condescending remarks. In another thread, someone called Swan, yes Swan, a prick. This was because he made a very harmless joke that had nothing to do with the other person. Other people see these posts, and it puts them on guard, and perhaps more ready for confrontation. I also think that because you guys haven't been here that long yet, you are perhaps being grouped together because you are not know as individual members yet. We get many new members on this site all the time without issue. If this offends any of you I apologize, but I think you guys should lighten up a little.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 10:04 AM
And don't think that I'm unaware of those snide comments posters have made about IMDB'ers from other threads where we weren't even causing trouble in. There is definitely an Anti-IMDB sentiment around here and more than just "the troublemakers" have sensed it.
I went weeks posting legit in this thread and that little dckhead Omni had to start in again.
I didn't know you guys were from iMDB, I didn't even see this thread, I just didn't recognize any of you and after checking your profiles to see if you're weren't actually returning old members (like me) I noticed you all started around the same time. I don't care what website you're from and I fail to see anything but paranoia as an excuse to factionalize yourself in such a way.
Just be yourselves. People will take you and leave you as you are.
It's kind of telling that you just denied being "paranoid" three times when I never even used the word once. But that's not what I said, and not what I'm saying.
What I am saying is that if you start off by thinking of yourselves as a "group," then you've already decided to think like outsiders, and that amplifies every issue, even minor ones. Case in point: the first thing you encountered here was a dozen people being really friendly, welcoming, and helpful...and one joke, from someone you didn't even know and which nobody else was echoing. And that one joke was immediately reason to discount all the good will you received. That was a pretty significant overreaction, and it hasn't been the only one.
Ditto being upset with people merely "bringing it up." Yes, they bring it up: it was huge news! You guys talk about it a lot! Which is fine. But just "bringing it up" isn't a slight, and if you're counting it as one, then yeah, I imagine this looks like some kind of epidemic.
I've had ten different people tell me the same thing--you willing to call them all paranoid/blowing it out of proportion as well? Why do you think that decent posters like TJLamb (whom I've known for a few years now) and some others rarely post here anymore?
People bounce off forums at incredibly high rates, so that doesn't require any magic explanation. But a handful of others--notably, those who've come over individually, rather than as a group--have stuck around. But they didn't make a big thing of it, and being "from" IMDB wasn't part of their identity. They just wanna talk about movies.
I'm telling you, straight up: the overwhelming majority of regulars don't care where you came from, they just care how you act.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 10:12 AM
I'm telling you, straight up: the overwhelming majority of regulars don't care where you came from, they just care how you act.
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I didn't know you guys were from iMDB, I didn't even see this thread, I just didn't recognize any of you and after checking your profiles to see if you're weren't actually returning old members (like me) I noticed you all started around the same time. I don't care what website you're from and I fail to see anything but paranoia as an excuse to factionalize yourself in such a way.
Just be yourselves. People will take you and leave you as you are.
Well, the first thing I'm going to do is place you on ignore. Whatever this posting style of yours is...it's something that I simply can't get used to. This all started when I chose to defend a friend against you and I should have just slapped your ass onto ignore THEN.
Onto ignore you go...
The Rodent
03-23-17, 10:29 AM
Said this a few times already, it's simple psychology.... IMDb was packed with trolls and flamers, which was the main reason I never used it myself.
But, for other people, after being in such an environment for a long time, they get used to it, it becomes normal...
Basically, the decent people using IMDb kinda got used to the trolls, and then when moving over to here they bring that mindset with them... and what happens then is when someone is simply making a joke or having a laugh, they immediately think they're being trolled or called names.
Sure, MoFo is not totally innocent... I've had altercations in the past myself... but 99.99% of the time (recurring) on MoFo is just banter, and not a direct attack on the person.
Just because that happened for years on IMDb, doesn't mean it's happening here.
I'll say it straight out... IMDb's boards were a sh*thole full of trolls, flamers, spammers, haters and sock puppets.
You guys are better without it... just don't think MoFo is the same.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 10:32 AM
Well, the first thing I'm going to do is place you on ignore. Whatever this posting style of yours is...it's something that I simply can't get used to. This all started when I chose to defend a friend against you and I should have just slapped your ass onto ignore THEN.
Onto ignore you go...
Sadly, you live down to my expectations.
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Omnizoa
03-23-17, 10:34 AM
Said this a few times already, it's simple psychology.... IMDb was packed with trolls and flamers, which was the main reason I never used it myself.
But, for other people, after being in such an environment for a long time, they get used to it, it becomes normal...
Basically, the decent people using IMDb kinda got used to the trolls, and then when moving over to here they bring that mindset with them... and what happens then is when someone is simply making a joke or having a laugh, they immediately think they're being trolled or called names.
Never used it myself, but that seems plausible.
It's kind of telling that you just denied being "paranoid" three times when I never even used the word once. But that's not what I said, and not what I'm saying.
What I am saying is that if you start off by thinking of yourselves as a "group," then you've already decided to think like outsiders, and that amplifies every issue, even minor ones. Case in point: the first thing you encountered here was a dozen people being really friendly, welcoming, and helpful...and one joke, from someone you didn't even know and which nobody else was echoing. And that one joke was immediately reason to discount all the good will you received. That was a pretty significant overreaction, and it hasn't been the only one.
Ditto being upset with people merely "bringing it up." Yes, they bring it up: it was huge news! You guys talk about it a lot! Which is fine. But just "bringing it up" isn't a slight, and if you're counting it as one, then yeah, I imagine this looks like some kind of epidemic.
People bounce off forums at incredibly high rates, so that doesn't require any magic explanation. But a handful of others--notably, those who've come over individually, rather than as a group--have stuck around. But they didn't make a big thing of it, and being "from" IMDB wasn't part of their identity. They just wanna talk about movies.
I'm telling you, straight up: the overwhelming majority of regulars don't care where you came from, they just care how you act.
I don't deny that there are good posters here. I've seen them. Spoken with them. Acknowledged them. My statements do NOT encompass all MoFo's. Not at all.
But there IS an Anti-IMDB sentiment around here with some MoFo's, regardless of what you say. Sure, some would fit into the assessment you gave me but not all. There have been instances of some MoFo's bringing IMDB up when no one else was. This is NOT just a case of IMDB'ers bringing it up and I WILL argue that point.
And to those MoFo's who treat us well--I appreciate that. Truly, I do. I wouldn't still be here if not for you. But, I also wasn't born yesterday and it's blatantly obvious that SOME of the MoFo's around here (SOME, mind you) take issue with us being here and they know who they are.
You can provide all these rationales if you wish (and some of them are true) but let's keep things in perspective here: I've only EVER been hostile with another member here if/when I've felt provoked or felt a person I know was being provoked. Case in point--this Trump thread.
But I WILL push back on this point every time: we former IMDB'ers are NOT the only people bringing IMDB up first in discussions when arguments start and that is a FACT.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 10:41 AM
Firstly allow me to apologize if I sound rude - though that is not my intention at all, I assure you:
1 - The first thing that was said about IMDB users coming to this site - BY SOME MOFOS - was not that peaceful [and left a bitter taste]. The IMDB users UNDERSTAND the reason for that sentiment [IMDB reputation, the fact that this site is a closed niche, etc, which, in the end, is logical and was to be expected]. All has been explained away in due time and that is a good thing. HOWEVER there IS STILL that sentiment of distrust hanging in various forms, either explicitly or implicitly BY SOME Mofo old regulars who feel teel it's their duty to piss on the tree to claim territory [and this is done by being either direct about it or by simply being obnoxious. In both cases they show themselves as being rude, which is not a good thing]
2 - I understand the need to defend the turf when you are a long time resident. This IS a closed site, which means FEW long time users knowing each other. It is only natural [as it is IN ANY site] that SOME feel threatened by the appearance of new members. Although in the end ithat is ALSO laughable, because [whether this to be 100% accurate or not] this in not a physical home. It's a temporary place. A virtual caffee where you socialize. Which also means YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE EVERYBODY. You don't do it in your real life, little less would you ever do it on the internet where you go temporarily to talk.
3 - THERE ALREADY WAS internal battling even before we [IMDB users] came in. There are members aiming at each others throats [LONG TERM members, that is] and you can see this in various posts/threads/sub.forums. You have to be specially blind or in denial if you say there isn't. BUT AGAIN, that is a NATURAL thing IN EVERY CLOSED SITE. We don't have to like everybody. We are not obliged to neiter here or out there. WHAT WE [as DECENT HUMAN BEINGS] ARE OBLIGED TO is to be transparent and HONEST towards EVERYBODY., And that means to drop the childish ATTITTUDE and attacks via subterfuge [ie, indirect attacks, instead of saying whatever is on ones' mind].
I consider myself a very practical person. I have little patience for tantrums. Little less for uncalled idiocy. If someone acts like that towards me, I will put that person in Ignore forever. Independently of HOW LONG that person has been here and well-liked or not. It's irrelevant, in the end. I don't take sh*t in the real world, I see no purpose in taking it here either.
You want to be well treated, you treat people well. You want to bark at the wrong tree, you'll be doing that in the Ignore List for good.
It doesn't hurt to be kind and respectful. But if people have trouble in being such, I will have no dialogue with them [and that is my personal and FINAL decision].
Thank you kindly:
LD
Said this a few times already, it's simple psychology.... IMDb was packed with trolls and flamers, which was the main reason I never used it myself.
But, for other people, after being in such an environment for a long time, they get used to it, it becomes normal...
Basically, the decent people using IMDb kinda got used to the trolls, and then when moving over to here they bring that mindset with them... and what happens then is when someone is simply making a joke or having a laugh, they immediately think they're being trolled or called names.
Sure, MoFo is not totally innocent... I've had altercations in the past myself... but 99.99% of the time (recurring) on MoFo is just banter, and not a direct attack on the person.
Just because that happened for years on IMDb, doesn't mean it's happening here.
I'll say it straight out... IMDb's boards were a sh*thole full of trolls, flamers, spammers, haters and sock puppets.
You guys are better without it... just don't think MoFo is the same.
YES, that is some of the reason without a doubt (we've all acknowledged this numerous times) but it's NOT the only reason--I've seen some genuine hostility around here that even some MoFo's have acknowledged as such. It's NOT all just "misunderstandings" and "jokes". Some, yes. We know that. Acknowledged that. But not all.
I've spoken with some MoFo's (whom I will not name) who feel the same way.
Movie Max
03-23-17, 10:44 AM
I don't even know exactly who all the IMDB folks are, except for one. Don't really care to single them out. I did notice, that almost every topic I enter, every second or third post seems to be by Dani8. Just wondering if maybe all the IMDB folks are typing under one Dani8 account?:D
At least she acknowledged some thread hijacking and that has subsided. Aside from that, life on a forum should be welcomed.
The Rodent
03-23-17, 10:46 AM
Anyway, I hope I'm not one that's been seen as an anti-IMDb :D
I did try to get you guys to write quizzes for the site after all :D
BTW, still waiting for OdumC to finish those MCU's ;)
Little Devil
03-23-17, 10:47 AM
Sadly, you live down to my expectations.
http://i.imgur.com/G2UdGYr.gif
Knowing Dteam6 for some time now I can assure you he doesn't give a damn about you personal "expectations" about him. He has no obligation towards you [or anyone in a matter of a fact]. No one does.
Your gif also went down the drain, he already put you in ignore, so if you're just trying to save face, is not doing you any real service but just further demonstrating you as a random instigator.
Firstly allow me to apologize if I sound rude - though that is not my intention at all, I assure you:
1 - The first thing that was said about IMDB users coming to this site - BY SOME MOFOS - was not that peaceful [and left a bitter taste]. The IMDB users UNDERSTAND the reason for that sentiment [IMDB reputation, the fact that this site is a closed niche, etc, which, in the end, is logical and was to be expected]. All has been explained away in due time and that is a good thing. HOWEVER there IS STILL that sentiment of distrust hanging in various forms, either explicitly or implicitly BY SOME Mofo old regulars who feel teel it's their duty to piss on the tree to claim territory [and this is done by being either direct about it or by simply being obnoxious. In both cases they show themselves as being rude, which is not a good thing]
2 - I understand the need to defend the turf when you are a long time resident. This IS a closed site, which means FEW long time users knowing each other. It is only natural [as it is IN ANY site] that SOME feel threatened by the appearance of new members. Although in the end ithat is ALSO laughable, because [whether this to be 100% accurate or not] this in not a physical home. It's a temporary place. A virtual caffee where you socialize. Which also means YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE EVERYBODY. You don't do it in your real life, little less would you ever do it on the internet where you go temporarily to talk.
3 - THERE ALREADY WAS internal battling even before we [IMDB users] came in. There are members aiming at each others throats [LONG TERM members, that is] and you can see this in various posts/threads/sub.forums. You have to be specially blind or in denial if you say there isn't. BUT AGAIN, that is a NATURAL thing IN EVERY CLOSED SITE. We don't have to like everybody. We are not obliged to neiter here or out there. WHAT WE [as DECENT HUMAN BEINGS] ARE OBLIGED TO is to be transparent and HONEST towards EVERYBODY., And that means to drop the childish ATTITTUDE and attacks via subterfuge [ie, indirect attacks, instead of saying whatever is on ones' mind].
I consider myself a very practical person. I have little patience for tantrums. Little less for uncalled idiocy. If someone acts like that towards me, I will put that person in Ignore forever. Independently of HOW LONG that person has been here and well-liked or not. It's irrelevant, in the end. I don't take sh*t in the real world, I see no purpose in taking it here either.
You want to be well treated, you treat people well. You want to bark at the wrong tree, you'll be doing that in the Ignore List for good.
It doesn't hurt to be kind and respectful. But if people have trouble in being such, I will have no dialogue with them [and that is my personal and FINAL decision].
Thank you kindly:
LD
Well said, dude. Well fcking said. Seriously. And you're right--some of that welcome was NOT all sunshine and roses as Yoda was making it out to be, but we're past that now, like you said.
And kudos for that in-fighting reference. I even brought up one of the callout threads I found around here that had nothing to do with us. Like you said, that comes with forum territory but I also don't like people telling me to let up when crap like this is going on. There are more than a few problem areas and civil wars going on around here which is why the pompous attitude that SOME have leveled around here really annoys me. There are several people around here throwing stones in flimsy glass houses.
Thank you for posting this as it illustrates several points that needed to be re-emphasized.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 10:52 AM
Knowing Dteam6 for some time now I can assure you he doesn't give a damn about you personal "expectations" about him.
I don't expect him to.
He has no obligation towards you
I know.
Your gif also went down the drain, he already put you in ignore,
I don't care.
so if you're just trying to save face,
I'm not.
is not doing you any real service but just further demonstrating you as a random instigator.
WHY HELLO! I've heard positive things about you, this is the first time we've met. My name is Omnizoa.
Anyway, I hope I'm not one that's been seen as an anti-IMDb :D
I did try to get you guys to write quizzes for the site after all :D
BTW, still waiting for @OdumC (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95646) to finish those MCU's ;)
I never included you in the Anti-IMDB group, but I have another issue with you: your sudden and uncalled for hostility over that Batman/DCCU topic. Trying to tell me to stop talking about a subject just because you don't like it? Not a good way to talk to another forumer.
I don't even know exactly who all the IMDB folks are, except for one. Don't really care to single them out. I did notice, that almost every topic I enter, every second or third post seems to be by Dani8. Just wondering if maybe all the IMDB folks are typing under one Dani8 account?:D
At least she acknowledged some thread hijacking and that has subsided. Aside from that, life on a forum should be welcomed.
Same here, I don't even know who all the "refugees" for lack of a better term, even are.
But I do think that if you keep labelling yourselves as outsiders who are constsntly getting attacked, it might eventually put people off. Just be yourselves, and people will interact and judge with you based upon that. It's been a while now anyway since it shut, we all just need to move past it! :)
Little Devil
03-23-17, 10:56 AM
I don't expect him to.
I know.
I don't care.
I'm not.
WHY HELLO! I've heard positive things about you, this is the first time we've met. My name is Omnizoa.
Hello Omni, I'm Little Devil. :)
Iroquois
03-23-17, 11:01 AM
Little Devil may very well be the first person to ever put me on ignore. Just know that.
Little Devil may very well be the first person to ever put me on ignore. Just know that.
Knowing LittleDevil, I'm sure he had good reason.
Iroquois
03-23-17, 11:03 AM
Nah.
I don't deny that there are good posters here. I've seen them. Spoken with them. Acknowledged them. My statements do NOT encompass all MoFo's. Not at all.
Understood. I didn't think you were saying otherwise, so no worries.
But there IS an Anti-IMDB sentiment around here with some MoFo's, regardless of what you say. Sure, some would fit into the assessment you gave me but not all. There have been instances of some MoFo's bringing IMDB up when no one else was. This is NOT just a case of IMDB'ers bringing it up and I WILL argue that point.
You don't have to argue the point, because I agree: of course there's some. The point I'm making is that it's not just "anti-IMDB." It's anti-something, and that something, they ascribe to IMDB. For example, if they notice IMDB people tend to go off-topic more (which I think actually happens for very interesting, largely software-related reasons, BTW), and they're annoyed by it, they might make the admittedly generalized observation that this is something IMDB people seem to do. But they're still objecting to the behavior, and not to the mere fact that you're from another place.
You can provide all these rationales if you wish (and some of them are true) but let's keep things in perspective here: I've only EVER been hostile with another member here if/when I've felt provoked or felt a person I know was being provoked.
I think the devil's in the details: how easily someone feels provoked, and how strongly they come back when they feel that way. Not every perceived slight is real, and even the ones that are don't usually require both guns blazin' in response.
There's a binary interaction to a lot of these fights ("We're getting along" or "We're full-on fighting now") that I'm really tempted to chalk up to the differences in moderation. It makes sense that, if someone's interactions were primarily with horrendous trolls, they would have had very few occasions to have tempered disagreements, since everyone being disagreed with probably deserved whatever you could throw at them. But most of the interactions here involve relatively benign disagreements that require both sides to roll with the punches and exhibit some restraint.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:06 AM
Well said, dude. Well fcking said. Seriously. And you're right--some of that welcome was NOT all sunshine and roses as Yoda was making it out to be, but we're past that now, like you said.
And kudos for that in-fighting reference. I even brought up one of the callout threads I found around here that had nothing to do with us. Like you said, that comes with forum territory but I also don't like people telling me to let up when crap like this is going on. There are more than a few problem areas and civil wars going on around here which is why the pompous attitude that SOME have leveled around here really annoys me. There are several people around here throwing stones in flimsy glass houses.
Thank you for posting this as it illustrates several points that needed to be re-emphasized.
Internal fights happen everywhere [hey, we're married... ]. The sad part is not that the long term residents have internal squabbles, is pretending there are none. That is all a sea of roses when it's pretty damn clear it isn't. And guess what, it will never be.
It is up to ALL the users on a closed site to be respectful and expect to be respected [this is the VERY LEAST one SHOULD be committed to]. If they can't be respectful maybe they shouldn't use the internet at all and take some time to really think hard about their own personal problems and fix them before venturing into socializing with unknown individuals any further.
I don't even know exactly who all the IMDB folks are, except for one. Don't really care to single them out. I did notice, that almost every topic I enter, every second or third post seems to be by @Dani8 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95651). Just wondering if maybe all the IMDB folks are typing under one @Dani8 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95651) account?:D
At least she acknowledged some thread hijacking and that has subsided. Aside from that, life on a forum should be welcomed.
Dani means well.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 11:08 AM
Hello Omni, I'm Little Devil. :)
HI. I'm sure you and I will become fast friends.
http://www.juel-markom.dk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/aftale2.png
Little Devil may very well be the first person to ever put me on ignore. Just know that.
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Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:10 AM
Knowing LittleDevil, I'm sure he had good reason.
And that I did. He will never come out of it though. The same will apply to any one who decides to act like an ass-hat towards me.
Iroquois
03-23-17, 11:11 AM
lol
Iroquois
03-23-17, 11:13 AM
If I ever ignored everyone on here who I disagreed with as much as Little Devil, I might as well quit.
And you're right--some of that welcome was NOT all sunshine and roses as Yoda was making it out to be
Here's what I actually said:
"... the first thing you encountered here was a dozen people being really friendly, welcoming, and helpful...and one joke, from someone you didn't even know and which nobody else was echoing. And that one joke was immediately reason to discount all the good will you received."
I didn't say it was "all sunshine and roses." I said one thorn was getting more attention than the rest of the bouquet. Sorry, I couldn't think of a clever way to work sunshine into there. Maybe something about a lone cloud? Yeah, good enough.
Anyway, I agree with most of what Little Devil said, for the record. This stuff isn't exceptional: it's a group of people. This stuff happens. The ones that stick around and enjoy themselves are the ones that can live with those inevitabilities and not take it personally.
Nah.
I haven't personally liked some of what you've had to say myself so, if LittleDevil put you on ignore, I can see why. You and I haven't spoken to one another, so I have no reason to do so myself.
The Rodent
03-23-17, 11:15 AM
I never included you in the Anti-IMDB group, but I have another issue with you: your sudden and uncalled for hostility over that Batman/DCCU topic. Trying to tell me to stop talking about a subject just because you don't like it? Not a good way to talk to another forumer.
I did explain about that, I was trying to make a point but I'd had a few drinks so I came across as hostile. Beer and typing doesn't mix.
Wasn't my intention to seem hostile or whatever. I was just a bit peeved at all the DC hate.
Movie Max
03-23-17, 11:15 AM
I might as well quit.
Again? Plissken wasn't a quitter.:idea:
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:16 AM
I think the devil's in the details: how easily someone feels provoked, and how strongly they come back when they feel that way. Not every perceived slight is real, and even the ones that are don't usually require both guns blazin' in response.
There's a binary interaction to a lot of these fights ("We're getting along" or "We're full-on fighting now") that I'm really tempted to chalk up to the differences in moderation. It makes sense that, if someone's interactions were primarily with horrendous trolls, they would have had very few occasions to have tempered disagreements, since everyone being disagreed with probably deserved whatever you could throw at them. But most of the interactions here involve relatively benign disagreements that require both sides to roll with the punches and exhibit some restraint.
It doesn't hurt anyone to be cordial. And Honest. If you have the feeling that what you say may be interpreted in the wrong way, it is your duty to make yourself clear as water in order to avoid it.
On the other hand, if you really want to call someone a ()"/#)("# son of a ()/)("#/)("#/ be Honest about it as well. Put it out in the open instead of going round with it. It gets you Honesty points.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:18 AM
I did explain about that, I was trying to make a point but I'd had a few drinks so I came across as hostile. Beer and typing doesn't mix.
Wasn't my intention to seem hostile or whatever. I was just a bit peeved at all the DC hate.
You should try pot and playing guitar with other people. It's hilariously bad
The Rodent
03-23-17, 11:19 AM
I prefer beer and playing pool :D
If I ever ignored everyone on here who I disagreed with as much as Little Devil, I might as well quit.
If that is what helps him to remain conflict-free around here then more power to him. There is nothing wrong with putting someone on ignore. I should have done that in the first place with Omni. Now I have. Problem solved.
ash_is_the_gal
03-23-17, 11:24 AM
last one to put Iroquis on ignore is a rotten egg!
The Rodent
03-23-17, 11:24 AM
I'll never put Iro on ignore... he's too much fun :D
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:24 AM
I prefer beer and playing pool :D
I'm a terrible pool player. And a terrible drinker.
Actually, I'm pretty terrible :D
The Rodent
03-23-17, 11:25 AM
I'm a terrible pool player. And a terrible drinker.
Actually, I'm pretty terrible :D
You're a devil.
A little one, but a devil nonetheless.
Miss Vicky
03-23-17, 11:25 AM
I want to know where these mythical MoFo "call out" threads are? I keep seeing IMDb alum's referring to them. Is it the "I Love You Thread" and the various other threads with that code in them?
I've been here almost eight years and I can't think of a single thread that truly fits that description, just joke threads that people somehow feel threatened by.
I want to know where these mythical MoFo "call out" threads are? I keep seeing IMDb alum's referring to them. Is it the "I Love You Thread" and the various other threads with that code in them?
I've been here almost eight years and I can't think of a single thread that truly fits that description, just joke threads that people somehow feel threatened by.
Think they mean SC's "Get On Tongo's Ignore List", that's the only one i can think of anyway as it's the only one i've seen bumped.
Here's what I actually said:
"... the first thing you encountered here was a dozen people being really friendly, welcoming, and helpful...and one joke, from someone you didn't even know and which nobody else was echoing. And that one joke was immediately reason to discount all the good will you received."I didn't say it was "all sunshine and roses." I said one thorn was getting more attention than the rest of the bouquet. Sorry, I couldn't think of a clever way to work sunshine into there. Maybe something about a lone cloud? Yeah, good enough.
Anyway, I agree with most of what Little Devil said, for the record. This stuff isn't exceptional: it's a group of people. This stuff happens. The ones that stick around and enjoy themselves are the ones that can live with those inevitabilities and not take it personally.
If you're actually referring to some of the negativity we received in the beginning as "one joke" (it was more than ONE "joke", by the way) then we will REALLY have to agree to disagree on that point, Yoda.
And my "Sunshine and Roses" comment was mainly me being a sarcastic a$$ because of the way you have downplayed aspects of that initial welcome. There was much more to that than "one joke that you new guys took the wrong way"...unless you and I are thinking of two different threads. The only thing you stated about that initial welcoming that I agree with is that there were some warm welcomes from some posters, yes.
I burn each and every one of you in effigy every single night; it takes up a ton of my time. Stop taking up so much of my time, you guys! ;)
Seriously though - I am glad a lot of the new folks have stuck around. :)
Think they mean SC's "Get On Tongo's Ignore List", that's the only one i can think of anyway as it's the only one i've seen bumped.
Context is everything if that's the case.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:36 AM
I want to know where these mythical MoFo "call out" threads are? I keep seeing IMDb alum's referring to them. Is it the "I Love You Thread" and the various other threads with that code in them?
I've been here almost eight years and I can't think of a single thread that truly fits that description, just joke threads that people somehow feel threatened by.
Lol. You yourself have quite a few diatribes going on. You should know them [they are pretty much all around]. The level that you may take them at heart or not is your own personal preference, though. But those who watch it from outside [ie, who have nothing to do with them] do notice them.
Agreed. Miss Vicky is terrible, we should ban her IMO.
ash_is_the_gal
03-23-17, 11:39 AM
I'll never put Iro on ignore... he's too much fun :D
exactly
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 11:40 AM
Knowing LittleDevil, I'm sure he had good reason.And that I did. He will never come out of it though. The same will apply to any one who decides to act like an ass-hat towards me.
Investigation time!
I already put 3 on Ignore: two ex-IMDB ass-hats and an In-house idiotic instigator. Those 3 won't come out of the Ignore list ever, so I have no use to remember they even exist.I'm pretty sure that Little Devil means me simply because the stuff I wrote in this thread (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=48511) was enough to get me labelled as an "instigator" in a thread that seems custom-designed to instigate negative discussions, in case you're wondering what it's going to take to make their ignore list (i.e. not much).3 - Pseudo-intellectual drivel
I appreciate some thoughtfulness. I appreciate some [good] insight into the thematic the movie is based on. I absolutely loath pseudo.intellectualism in any shape or form, specially when the writers could easily do a bit of research into what they are writing about instead of pretending to be saying something profound.
Examples: Prometheus [gods are aliens, dna, "science"...]: BvS [gods, devils... whatever]
4 - "Artsy Fartsy"
This one requires no explanation. It's visual pseudo-intellectualism. Shallow, uninteresting, boring.
Examples: Lord of Tears; Hotel, Second Earth; Requiem for a Dream...I hate being talked down to... I guess some directors are elitists and think only THEY understand.
As a wise man once said, "Art doesn't leave anyone cold. Everyone gets a varying degree of understanding" and as Kiarostami said "You guys (audience) intellectualize my movies"
The whole point of art is to express what you feel, not what you think can sell.This just reminds me of Inarritu's comments regarding The Revenant where he said it was the kind of film that should be watched in a temple or that he hated when people referred it as a Western because of the similarity between "genre" and "generic".Sorry, but if that's his/her opinion on said movie, I'm not going to discuss it [although I'm tempted to agree with him/her].Inarritu was the man who actually directed The Revenant, so for him to talk about his own movie like that...well, maybe you're not as intolerant of pseudo-intellectual "artsy-fartsy" pretentiousness as you claim.I couldn't be bothered to reply to you any further due to your attempts at a personal attack. You did it once, you're not doing it again.
You are overly aggressive, bordering the amusing [but not really]. Your attitude towards me [and others, as far as I already seen] is that of instigation. I have no desire to be a part of your random internet moods.
Good bye.
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I'm a terrible pool player. And a terrible drinker.
Actually, I'm pretty terrible :D
Don't say that about yourself, dude! You're not pretty!
Lol. You yourself have quite a few diatribes going on. You should know them [they are pretty much all around]. The level that you may take them at heart or not is your own personal preference, though. But those who watch it from outside [ie, who have nothing to do with them] do notice them.
Well said and agreed.
I burn each and every one of you in effigy every single night; it takes up a ton of my time. Stop taking up so much of my time, you guys! ;)
Seriously though - I am glad a lot of the new folks have stuck around. :)
Adhering to LittleDevil's great posts, let's get an honest answer here: am I one of the ones you're glad stuck around?
PS: Be honest, please. I'm a big boy--I can take it. :yup:
If you're actually referring to some of the negativity we received in the beginning as "one joke" (it was more than ONE "joke", by the way) then we will REALLY have to agree to disagree on that point, Yoda.
Well, it was one person making the same joke a few times in a row, as I recall, which I think is pretty clearly one incident.
We can litigate this further, if you want, but whether it's one or two, the point I'm making is that most of the response was welcoming and helpful (some of it ridiculously so), and I don't see any reason to give that so much less weight than the other stuff. If you were on high alert for warning signs from the very beginning, that might be understandable, but it also makes it pretty much impossible to start things off on the right foot.
And my "Sunshine and Roses" comment was mainly me being a sarcastic a$$
Ah. Well, that's good to know, because I often read these responses and think "did he even read what I said?" Perhaps this is one of those things that comes from me just not knowing you well enough yet. Fair to say that's responsible for a lot of this, actually.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 11:48 AM
Be honest, please. I'm a big boy--I can take it. :yup:
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/C2bW_F1WQAEaTed.jpg
This whole thread.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:51 AM
I burn each and every one of you in effigy every single night; it takes up a ton of my time. Stop taking up so much of my time, you guys! ;)
Seriously though - I am glad a lot of the new folks have stuck around. :)
So that's why My feet are always so.... moist... :D
Little Devil
03-23-17, 11:53 AM
Investigation time!
And the conclusion of your Detective skills are...?
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 11:53 AM
And the conclusion of your Detective skills are...?
You might as well ignore me and get it over with.
Yoda should just make an ignore all feature and get it over with.
Sexy Celebrity
03-23-17, 12:00 PM
I am so sick of hearing about "the IMDB people."
ash_is_the_gal
03-23-17, 12:01 PM
best stay out of this thread, then.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:02 PM
You might as well ignore me and get it over with.
Is that so? I'll be the judge of my own decisions and actions, thank you.
But the real question is, what is your point? You seem you have something to say. Just be clear about it instead of going around. I'll be happy to reply in accordance [even though I really have no need to] just out of cordiality.
Well, it was one person making the same joke a few times in a row, as I recall, which I think is pretty clearly one incident.
We can litigate this further, if you want, but whether it's one or two, the point I'm making is that most of the response was welcoming and helpful (some of it ridiculously so), and I don't see any reason to give that so much less weight than the other stuff. If you were on high alert for warning signs from the very beginning, that might be understandable, but it also makes it pretty much impossible to start things off on the right foot.
Ah. Well, that's good to know, because I often read these responses and think "did he even read what I said?" Perhaps this is one of those things that comes from me just not knowing you well enough yet. Fair to say that's responsible for a lot of this, actually.
Yes, I know what you're trying to say--I just don't agree with several aspects of it.
No, I really don't want to litigate this any further--at the end of the day, we simply have different viewpoints on this that will never be fully reconciled. It is what it is, I guess.
I think the Ignore List stuff tells us a lot about the situation. One of the reasons I've had to expand and patch that system is because, no joke, it's barely come up in almost 17 years of running the site. Almost nobody ever asked me about it before this.
That's pretty illuminating, I think. IMDB may have had lots of trolls with no redeeming qualities, and thus there was nothing lost by blocking them. It was probably necessary just to have a conversation. But over here, the outright trolls got banned, and almost nobody blocked each other until recently, which means almost everybody who stuck around did so because they were able to work out their disagreements, or just learn to live with them. It's self-selected to be a group of people who were able to find that equilibrium.
The phrase I used years ago any time a new person had a rough introduction was "roll with the punches." I stopped saying it, because I worried it inadvertently encouraged people to throw more of them. :laugh: But that was the spirit for a long time, and still largely is. It's also why I make such a marked distinction between arguing and fighting, where things get more leeway if they're combative more towards an idea than an individual. It sounds like a subtle distinction, but I've found it to be a very important one.
Anyway, I hope that contributes a little to a better general understanding, on both sides.
Yes, I know what you're trying to say--I just don't agree with several aspects of it.
No, I really don't want to litigate this any further--at the end of the day, we simply have different viewpoints on this that will never be fully reconciled. It is what it is, I guess.
Okay, fair enough. If someone just has a fundamentally different view of some of this stuff, it can't always be reconciled. And it's just up to them to decide if it's something they can live with it or not, I guess. No hard feelings if it's not.
Is that so? I'll be the judge of my own decisions and actions, thank you.
But the real question is, what is your point? You seem you have something to say. Just be clear about it instead of going around. I'll be happy to reply in accordance [even though I really have no need to] just out of cordiality.
Do it, Little Devil! Do it! I dare ya! :cage:
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:24 PM
I think the Ignore List stuff tells us a lot about the situation. One of the reasons I've had to expand and patch that system is because, no joke, it's barely come up in almost 17 years of running the site. Almost nobody ever asked me about it before this.
That's pretty illuminating, I think. IMDB may have had lots of trolls with no redeeming qualities, and thus there was nothing lost by blocking them. It was probably necessary just to have a conversation. But over here, the outright trolls got banned, and almost nobody blocked each other until recently, which means almost everybody who stuck around did so because they were able to work out their disagreements, or just learn to live with them. It's self-selected to be a group of people who were able to find that equilibrium.
The phrase I used years ago any time a new person had a rough introduction was "roll with the punches." I stopped saying it, because I worried it inadvertently encouraged people to throw more of them. :laugh: But that was the spirit for a long time, and still largely is. It's also why I make such a marked distinction between arguing and fighting, where things get more leeway if they're combative more towards an idea than an individual. It sounds like a subtle distinction, but I've found it to be a very important one.
Anyway, I hope that contributes a little to a better general understanding, on both sides.
I don0t know much, and I can only assess by what I see. When you say that peole learned to work differences or live with them, you are also saying that those same people learned to defend themselves via other means.
A curious point: some long term users seem to welcome newcomers with open arms [which you referred to as "ridiculously so"]. Maybe because they are fed up with some stuff [I wouldn't be surprised if it had anything to do with some throat punching].
It's a pure and objective social phenomenon: when you know you are being watched you learn to do maneuver differently to attain the same goal [ex: I can't tell you to F+ck off without being judged as a cretin by everyone else, so I'll do it in between the lines reserving the idea that those people may be reading it wrong as a plausible denial; and the object of your message as well].
After all, even in closed sites [or maybe, specially on those] the "buddy system" of gang jumping happens. Even if the one who is jumped on done nothing wrong [and this happens a lot]
No system is perfect because people themselves are not perfect.
To me - and personally speaking obviously - it only becomes a shame when people are not even willing to try to be better than what they think they actually are.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 12:24 PM
Is that so? I'll be the judge of my own decisions and actions, thank you.
But the real question is, what is your point? You seem you have something to say. Just be clear about it instead of going around. I'll be happy to reply in accordance [even though I really have no need to] just out of cordiality.
I think you overreacted to a fair point Iro made. He wasn't cutting you down or going after you, you had presented an opinion and he offered criticism. That's not a bad thing. Criticism, whether you like the format or tone in which that criticism is delivered, is still a valuable means by which you can correct and improve your own critical faculties (which I daresay are what is required to judge what constitute really bad movie tropes).
Iro is tame compared to other users, myself included, so it's by this standard that putting Iro on your ignore list is the metaphorical equivalent of starting a game of Blocklist Jenga by pulling out the foundation.
I suggest easing up, it's pretty relaxed around here. Any and all feuds you may be observing are almost certainly all the consequence of taking things personally. There's no need to add to that.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:25 PM
Do it, Little Devil! Do it! I dare ya! :cage:
I'm really curious to hear from him what his objective is.
I think the Ignore List stuff tells us a lot about the situation. One of the reasons I've had to expand and patch that system is because, no joke, it's barely come up in almost 17 years of running the site. Almost nobody ever asked me about it before this.
That's pretty illuminating, I think. IMDB may have had lots of trolls with no redeeming qualities, and thus there was nothing lost by blocking them. It was probably necessary just to have a conversation.
The ignore function over there came in very useful for the damn spam bots which admin did nothing about and over the last year or so there must have been hundreds, but that's not an issue here because you and your mods nuke them very quickly. 👍
Okay, fair enough. If someone just has a fundamentally different view of some of this stuff, it can't always be reconciled. And it's just up to them to decide if it's something they can live with it or not, I guess. No hard feelings if it's not.
Yep. Best course of action is to just accept that we'll never fully agree on this point. I see YOUR perception of it and you see mine. We fundamentally disagree. Best we just accept that if we're to move forward.
At least I can agree with SOME of your points, so don't think that I'm discounting EVERYTHING you're saying, because I'm certainly not. There is simply a fundamental level to this that we're never going to see eye-to-eye on. It's become apparent to me now. That's OK, though. I'd rather we just accept that. Makes it easier for us both.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 12:34 PM
For the record, as much as some people may have occasionally annoyed me on here, I've never actually touched the Ignore function.
I don0t know much, and I can only assess by what I see. When you say that peole learned to work differences or live with them, you are also saying that those same people learned to defend themselves via other means.
A curious point: some long term users seem to welcome newcomers with open arms [which you referred to as "ridiculously so"]. Maybe because they are fed up with some stuff [I wouldn't be surprised if it had anything to do with some throat punching].
It's a pure and objective social phenomenon: when you know you are being watched you learn to do maneuver differently to attain the same goal [ex: I can't tell you to F+ck off without being judged as a cretin by everyone else, so I'll do it in between the lines reserving the idea that those people may be reading it wrong as a plausible denial; and the object of your message as well].
After all, even in closed sites [or maybe, specially on those] the "buddy system" of gang jumping happens. Even if the one who is jumped on done nothing wrong [and this happens a lot]
No system is perfect because people themselves are not perfect.
To me - and personally speaking obviously - it only becomes a shame when people are not even willing to try to be better than what they think they actually are.
Well said, LittleDevil.
I'm really curious to hear from him what his objective is.
Without seeing his posts, I couldn't tell you. What I CAN tell you is that I'm loving this new ignore feature--it's like the people I ignored don't exist. :drevil:
For the record, as much as some people may have occasionally annoyed me on here, I've never actually touched the Ignore function.
I had TONGO on it for two days because he had me on it, i just ended up reading all of his posts anyway so i took him off. Other than that i've never used it either.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:40 PM
I think you overreacted to a fair point Iro made. He wasn't cutting you down or going after you, you had presented an opinion and he offered criticism. That's not a bad thing. Criticism, whether you like the format or tone in which that criticism is delivered, is still a valuable means by which you can correct and improve your own critical faculties (which I daresay are what is required to judge what constitute really bad movie tropes).
Iro is tame compared to other users, myself included, so it's by this standard that putting Iro on your ignore list is the metaphorical equivalent of starting a game of Blocklist Jenga by pulling out the foundation.
I suggest easing up, it's pretty relaxed around here. Any and all feuds you may be observing are almost certainly all the consequence of taking things personally. There's no need to add to that.
Ok, you presented your case, here's mine:
It has nothing to do with criticism. That is my formation [analysis and criticism of philosophical works, etc].
See, Iroquois attacked me before that. Then he came about with an attitude as if I own him anything [I don't]. Then - to make things worse - he made a judgement about myself when he knows me from nowhere, disguised a supposition because the dude has no balls to say things up front [whatever nonsense he actually may have felt he had to say when, again, he knows me from nowhere].
That is, by any way you may feel inclined to see it - sheer idiocy.
I don't like it. Don't have to like it. And I'll deal with it the way I think it's appropriate [seriously, I don't take that kind of sh+t in real life. I don't care for sissies].
So, you yourself, just made a supposition based on half the story.
That seems to be a lot of the mistakes people here make.
An example:
The Rodent called me a troll once when I told a well known IMDB troll that this was a closed site and he should behave.
The Rodent made the supposition - without any former knowledge - that I was attacking said troll out of the blue, when in fact I was not. I was giving him a fair warning that his trolling should be kept outside [nd lo and behold, he hasn't strayed that long].
I took it to PM with The Rodent and all was explained.
As to what Iroquois is concerned. That matter is dead. He won't come out of my Ignore list, no matter how fond you are of him [or not]. I take things from my own experience, not from others. I make my own calls and my own actions are based on my own judgement.
I will re-iterate what I said previously: being honest and nice doesn't hurt anyone. Being rude and obnoxious, however, will give the idiots a one way trip to the Ignore List.
The Rodent
03-23-17, 12:40 PM
I've never used the ignore.
I told SC I put him on ignore just to wind him up... it worked.
Yep. Best course of action is to just accept that we'll never fully agree on this point. I see YOUR perception of it and you see mine. We fundamentally disagree. Best we just accept that if we're to move forward.
At least I can agree with SOME of your points, so don't think that I'm discounting EVERYTHING you're saying, because I'm certainly not. There is simply a fundamental level to this that we're never going to see eye-to-eye on. It's become apparent to me now. That's OK, though. I'd rather we just accept that. Makes it easier for us both.
I dig. And for the record, I agree with some of yours, too. Some of this stuff is just a difference of opinion, but I think any group of "outsiders" is going to have useful insights about things that have become ingrained in a community, but just sort of faded into the background. It might just be cultural furniture here, but stand out a lot more to someone new.
The Rodent
03-23-17, 12:43 PM
Ok, you presented your case, here's mine:
It has nothing to do with criticism. That is my formation [analysis and criticism of philosophical works, etc].
See, Iroquois attacked me before that. Then he came about with an attitude as if I own him anything [I don't]. Then - to make things worse - he made a judgement about myself when he knows me from nowhere, disguised a supposition because the dude has no balls to say things up front [whatever nonsense he actually may have felt he had to say when, again, he knows me from nowhere].
That is, by any way you may feel inclined to see it - sheer idiocy.
I don't like it. Don't have to like it. And I'll deal with it the way I think it's appropriate [seriously, I don't take that kind of sh+t in real life. I don't care for sissies].
So, you yourself, just made a supposition based on half the story.
That seems to be a lot of the mistakes people here make.
An example:
The Rodent called me a troll once when I told a well known IMDB troll that this was a closed site and he should behave.
The Rodent made the supposition - without any former knowledge - that I was attacking said troll out of the blue, when in fact I was not. I was giving him a fair warning that his trolling should be kept outside [nd lo and behold, he hasn't strayed that long].
I took it to PM with The Rodent and all was explained.
As to what Iroquois is concerned. That matter is dead. He won't come out of my Ignore list, no matter how fond you are of him [or not]. I take things from my own experience, not from others. I make my own calls and my own actions are based on my own judgement.
I will re-iterate what I said previously: being honest and nice doesn't hurt anyone. Being rude and obnoxious, however, will give the idiots a one way trip to the Ignore List.
I remember that.
You were such a troll that day :laugh:
Wonder who has been on the most ignore lists out of active members. I'm guessing SC.
Historically, there have been several people on the site that I don't/didn't get along with. As a mod, I don't put people on ignore, as I still need to see all the posts etc. to moderate properly. That said, I still like to read some of these people's posts, as many of them are intelligent and interesting people, but they are people whose personality just happens to clash with mine. I do find some of their posts insightful and interesting, and I am glad they are on the site, as it leads to a more diverse community overall. I think my biggest rule of thumb on MoFo is to never take anything anyone posts too personally. A thick skin does wonders on the web!
christine
03-23-17, 12:48 PM
I don0t know much, and I can only assess by what I see. When you say that peole learned to work differences or live with them, you are also saying that those same people learned to defend themselves via other means.
Can I answer this? I think maybe in the past the ignore function wasn't used a lot not because people didn't argue because people have always had differences, but because people just decide to ignore people themselves. This is like what happens in real life. You work in a big office and someone's a dick, well you just keep out of their way and don't engage them in conversation. This can also work online.
Maybe me being old fashioned but I don't see people in real life arguing the toss for as long as people spend online doing it. Makes me wonder where they all get the time from! As for 'defending' yourself, let's get this in proportion, this is only a film messageboard, albeit the best one, not some kind of life n'death situation!
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:49 PM
I remember that.
You were such a troll that day :laugh:
no need to thank me.
nah, I'm lying strip yourself naked over that Altar.
The Rodent
03-23-17, 12:49 PM
Historically, there have been several people on the site that I don't/didn't get along with. As a mod, I don't put people on ignore, as I still need to see all the posts etc. to moderate properly. That said, I still like to read some of these people's posts, as many of them are intelligent and interesting people, but they are people whose personality just happens to clash with mine. I do find some of their posts insightful and interesting, and I am glad they are on the site, as it leads to a more diverse community overall. I think my biggest rule of thumb on MoFo is to never take anything anyone posts too personally. A thick skin does wonders on the web!
Intelligent, insightful, interesting... but doesn't speak to them often.
Seds, you on about me again, huh?
I've always been the subject of "criticisms" and rudeness, and have always retaliated as intelligently as possible without bending over for it. From what I've seen in the past several years of internet courage is that people who troll you a lot of times come across very smugly, usually with a half way decent vocabulary, and a murderer's wit of having all their angles covered so they can snap right back at you and put you in their place. Then, it's only a brain and a will, no fisticuffs, or fists..or open handed smacking. None of that is possible unless someone wants to roll up on someone's lawn and get dealt with.
So, in that arena, trolls are trolls. Poeple who love to debate, argue and "put ppl in their place". Well, that's not on the menu for anyone so..all the going back and forth, I'll give a fair warning, if anyone tries to make static with me, it will be ignored and take a soft landing in the corner, for a nice, quiet time-out. And if there is a healthy debate, be prepared for knives out.:D
Actually, I've trolled youtube before. I'm a little ashamed, but I never did it out of pure stupidity, usually the opposite. I apologize youtube. Please don't ever put Freddie Mercury. Place holders are for a reason. And Justin B in the same sentence.
CAs for 'defending' yourself, let's get this in proportion, this is only a film messageboard, albeit the best one, not some kind of life n'death situation!
I dont think he means that, christine. I dont think Dev takes the interwebz that seriously. As you said, it's just a film board, not the apocalypse.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:54 PM
Can I answer this? I think maybe in the past the ignore function wasn't used a lot not because people didn't argue because people have always had differences, but because people just decide to ignore people themselves. This is like what happens in real life. You work in a big office and someone's a dick, well you just keep out of their way and don't engage them in conversation. This can also work online.
Maybe me being old fashioned but I don't see people in real life arguing the toss for as long as people spend online doing it. Makes me wonder where they all get the time from! As for 'defending' yourself, let's get this in proportion, this is only a film messageboard, albeit the best one, not some kind of life n'death situation!
Sadly, many people try to cause a ruckus on real life just for the hell of it [for whatever egotistical reasons they may have]. It's like that guy at work you HAVE TO endure, although everything the idiot says gets under your skin.
On closed environments [such as work] people resort to being hypocritical in order to say what they think they have to say without making a fuss. A yellow smile when there is no mood for it at all. A simple good day to you, when you hate the living guts of someone.
But we DO have a choice whenever we have the instruments to use them: in this case the Ignore function.
It's preferable than to drag a pointless argument or to be hypocritical when you don't want to.
Intelligent, insightful, interesting... but doesn't speak to them often.
Seds, you on about me again, huh?
I have always liked you, buddy! :)
The Rodent made the supposition - without any former knowledge - that I was attacking said troll out of the blue, when in fact I was not.
I take things from my own experience, not from others. I make my own calls and my own actions are based on my own judgement.
Aren't these two things in conflict? If Rodent was able to learn from your experience, why can't you learn from others'?
I will re-iterate what I said previously: being honest and nice doesn't hurt anyone. Being rude and obnoxious, however, will give the idiots a one way trip to the Ignore List.
I think the issue is that otherwise thoughtful people can occasionally be rude or obnoxious, and it's easier still for them to say something which is merely interpreted that way.
Granted, it might be worth erring on the side of caution there, if you dislike certain types of interactions so much that you're willing to sacrifice the likelihood of thoughtful discussions in order to avoid them. But there's obviously going to be a trade off there, if a single remark can be met with an instant and irrevocable block.
I dig. And for the record, I agree with some of yours, too. Some of this stuff is just a difference of opinion, but I think any group of "outsiders" is going to have useful insights about things that have become ingrained in a community, but just sort of faded into the background. It might just be cultural furniture here, but stand out a lot more to someone new.
I can agree with that cultural furniture reasoning to a certain extent, yes. That reasoning doesn't cover everything but it does to an extent, yes. I can meet you at least halfway on these points here.
ash_is_the_gal
03-23-17, 12:57 PM
some of y'all need to switch to decaf.
I have always liked you, buddy! :)
Oh now that's pretty horny. A bromance is much more fun than conflict. Bring it on. I;m feeling the lurve.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 12:59 PM
As for 'defending' yourself, let's get this in proportion, this is only a film messageboard, albeit the best one, not some kind of life n'death situation!
I don't take the web seriously [no one in their right mind does]. What I don't enjoy is "noise".
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:00 PM
some of y'all need to switch to decaf.
NO!
NO!
I was literally drinking non-decaf when I read this. Co-sign.
I was literally drinking non-decaf when I read this. Co-sign.
The very word decaf gives me heart palpitations. 'Scuse me. Going to make a triple espresso.
ash_is_the_gal
03-23-17, 01:03 PM
see? yoda knows what's up
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:10 PM
[Aren't these two things in conflict? If Rodent was able to learn from your experience, why can't you learn from others'?
What is? What is that experience you're talking about? What are we talking about here exactly?
I think the issue is that otherwise thoughtful people can occasionally be rude or obnoxious, and it's easier still for them to say something which is merely interpreted that way.
Hence why I said it is OUR DUTY to be clear to others. Black and White. No second interpretations.
Granted, it might be worth erring on the side of caution there, if you dislike certain types of interactions so much that you're willing to sacrifice the likelihood of thoughtful discussions in order to avoid them. But there's obviously going to be a trade off there, if a single remark can be met with an instant and irrevocable block
I can live with that kind trade off quite well. I prefer peaceful interaction than dealing with hypocrisy.
However, I should also state that I don't make judgements out of the blue. There are somethings I expect from the other in order to have that peaceful interaction. And those are the same things I put on the table from the get go. If those aren't met, then it's pointless.
If you are out to buy a Ferrari you better expect it to be up to standard and you better know how to drive one as wel [and that you actually have roads for it]
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:10 PM
I was literally drinking non-decaf when I read this. Co-sign.
heresy!
some of y'all need to switch to decaf.
Does THIS look like the face of someone who drinks too much coffee? :docbrown:
This thread :rolleyes:
Let's all just get along.
I seemed to join at the same time as many of the 'IMDb squad' or however you wish to identify.
I haven't noticed an anti IMDB agenda. That's not to say it's not there, even if it was I would be oblivious.
Some people do seem to wear the IMDB thing as a badge of honour.
I just want to chat about films, life and other mysteries.
I don't care what other websites you visit, have visited or will visit.
I don't understand why you would wish to identify yourself as an IMDB alumni/veteran/survivor etc but the fact that you do is your choice.
I still laugh when someone refers to themselves, me or the group as a MoFo :D
There are WUM's on these forums, as there are in life.
If strangers on an internet forum giving you grief because you used to go on IMDb is this worthy of this much of your time and attention, I would suggest that your life is pretty great.
Stay classy San DiMoFO
This thread :rolleyes:
Let's all just get along.
I seemed to join at the same time as many of the 'IMDb squad' or however you wish to identify.
I haven't noticed an anti IMDB agenda. That's not to say it's not there, even if it was I would be oblivious.
Some people do seem to wear the IMDB thing as a badge of honour.
I just want to chat about films, life and other mysteries.
I don't care what other websites you visit, have visited or will visit.
I don't understand why you would wish to identify yourself as an IMDB alumni/veteran/survivor etc but the fact that you do is your choice.
I still laugh when someone refers to themselves, me or the group as a MoFo :D
There are WUM's on these forums, as there are in life.
If strangers on an internet forum giving you grief because you used to go on IMDb is this worthy of this much of your time and attention, I would suggest that your life is pretty great.
Stay classy San DiMoFO
What's a WUM?
I still laugh at MoFo as well. There was a young guy on the AHS board who called himself MoFo. Really sweet guy. Then his mum turned up on the board and I hd to start calling him Moof or Mfof. I just couldnt call him Mofo infront of his mother.
What's a WUM?
I still laugh at MoFo as well. There was a young guy on the AHS board who called himself MoFo. Really sweet guy. Then his mum turned up on the board and I hd to start calling him Moof or Mfof. I just couldnt call him Mofo infront of his mother.
WUM = Wind Up Merchant
WUM = Wind Up Merchant
That's a new one. I rep that.
RaymondLuxuryYacht
03-23-17, 01:21 PM
I posted on IMDb with relative frequency for a few years. However, I believe message board identity is fluid and personal, so I self-identify as a poster in an AOL chatroom circa 1995 via dial-up modem. Please respect this. Thank you.
cat_sidhe
03-23-17, 01:25 PM
Well. This thread sure brings out my protective side.
Don't mess with the arsonist in the group... :lol:
What is? What is that experience you're talking about? What are we talking about here exactly?
I'm asking why it was good for Rodent to hear your experiences with this troll, and learn from them, but the judgments you make about others are only based on direct experience. If others can learn from your experiences, can't you learn from theirs?
Black and White. No second interpretations.
You've never known someone who said a thing that irked you, but were still, on the whole, a net positive to talk with?
There are somethings I expect from the other in order to have that peaceful interaction. And those are the same things I put on the table from the get go. If those aren't met, then it's pointless.
I'm not sure what the "table" is in this analogy, but I'm pretty sure most of the people who've replied to you were unaware of your standards in this regard.
If you are out to buy a Ferrari you better expect it to be up to standard and you better know how to drive one as wel [and that you actually have roads for it]
I'll certainly concede that a zero-tolerance approach to problems is reasonable when you're dropping $100,000. My standards are a bit looser for casual forum interactions, though.
But I'm not really trying to talk you out of this, or anything. Just getting a sense for the underlying thought process.
heresy!
I said non-decaf.
Does THIS look like the face of someone who drinks too much coffee? :docbrown:
:rotfl:
Actu-laughed.
I'll say several things, this forum so far has proven to have pretty decent cast of characters.
Compared to bluray.com which I was using to guage people's thoughts/my own..what a horror show that place is.
Never been to imbd forums, heard a lot of things about it.
There are no arcades where I live anymore, otherwise I'd be a half bottle of vodka in sharing polaroids of my movie shelf, getting all the metal chicks to follow me home for a movie marathon. For now, until the reset, I'll settle for movie forums and just start printing all the images out on glossy paper.
So far this forum is very well behaved and right up my alley, since it's based on movies. No reason ppl can't get along, since we all love movies.
Sprinkles salt to dilute the sweetness.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:44 PM
I'm asking why it was good for Rodent to hear your experiences with this troll, and learn from them, but the judgments you make about others are only based on direct experience. If others can learn from your experiences, can't you learn from theirs? But of course. I reserve my own judgments for my own experiences as a principle. I can't judge a person outside my own experience with such person when it comes to a Forum though. You yourself could be the smelliest SOB on the face of the Earth but if I take a lsniff and don't find it too bad it's still MY experience that dictates my judgement.
But it would be helpful if you would give an objective example for examination, if you are willing to do so.
You've never known someone who said a thing that irked you, but were still, on the whole, a net positive to talk with?Sure, But none came attacking me or acting as a douche towards me. There's quite a difference in saying something that irks, and being offensive just because. If the person in question doesn't know that difference, then something's not working with that person.
I'm not sure what the "table" is in this analogy, but I'm pretty sure most of the people who've replied to you were unaware of your standards in this regard.They don't have to be aware of any standard [mine or not]. That's the thing. As people who have their own share of experience in living, we all should know from the start how we should approach strangers [or people in general].
I'll certainly concede that a zero-tolerance approach to problems is reasonable when you're dropping $100,000. My standards are a bit looser for casual forum interactions, though.Sure, I draw the line at the second attempt at creating a fuss towards me. The first one is unexpected. The second one I'll only swallow if I'm an idiot.
But I'm not really trying to talk you out of this, or anything. Just getting a sense for the underlying thought process.it would help if you were to be clear what you are referring to.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:45 PM
I said non-decaf.sorry, misread.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:47 PM
I'll say several things, this forum so far has proven to have pretty decent cast of characters.
Compared to bluray.com which I was using to guage people's thoughts/my own..what a horror show that place is.
Never been to imbd forums, heard a lot of things about it.
There are no arcades where I live anymore, otherwise I'd be a half bottle of vodka in sharing polaroids of my movie shelf, getting all the metal chicks to follow me home for a movie marathon. For now, until the reset, I'll settle for movie forums and just start printing all the images out on glossy paper.
So far this forum is very well behaved and right up my alley, since it's based on movies. No reason ppl can't get along, since we all love movies.
Sprinkles salt to dilute the sweetness.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe"
No reason ppl can't get along, since we all love movies..
LOL. You've obviously never seen a full blown meltdown because someone has a different PoV to your favourite movie (generic you, not Joel you). eg La La Land - I didnt like it on my first attempt so walked out within 30 minutes. Gave it a second view with a change of mood and really liked it. One old guy went off the deepend because i didnt love love love it and then started following me around to take pot shots, even when discussing other movies. It was hilarious...until the novelty wore off. Then the place imploded. I blame that board.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe"
Oh, I bet! I mean, having control in life isn't always a thing for people so...getting someone's panties in a bunch is the next best thing for powerless folks who want to stir the pot. At the end of the day,..actually, I'm putting a full length mirror next to me when I sit at my computer. That oughtta wake my ass up.:eek:
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 01:51 PM
Ok, you presented your case, here's mine:
It has nothing to do with criticism. That is my formation [analysis and criticism of philosophical works, etc].
See, Iroquois attacked me before that.
Even were I to accept that without evidence, this post remains the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, no? My point still stands.
So, you yourself, just made a supposition based on half the story.
It was a proposition. Not a supposition.
That seems to be a lot of the mistakes people here make.
That's rather antagonistic isn't it?
As to what Iroquois is concerned. That matter is dead. He won't come out of my Ignore list, no matter how fond you are of him [or not]. I take things from my own experience, not from others.I wasn't suggested you take him off your ignore list, I was suggesting that you put him there unfairly and that such a precedent is a slippery slope.
I make my own calls and my own actions are based on my own judgement.
I will re-iterate what I said previously: being honest and nice doesn't hurt anyone. Being rude and obnoxious, however, will give the idiots a one way trip to the Ignore List.Sounds vindictive to me.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 01:53 PM
LOL. You've obviously never seen a full blown meltdown because someone has a different PoV to your favourite movie (generic you, not Joel you). eg La La Land - I didnt like it on my first attempt so walked out within 30 minutes. Gave it a second view with a change of mood and really liked it. One old guy went off the deepend because i didnt love love love it and then started following me around to take pot shots, even when discussing other movies. It was hilarious...until the novelty wore off. Then the place imploded. I blame that board.
Oh yeah, the whining cry babies were hilarious when they got in Meltdown mode and started to threat to kill anyone who disagreed with them.
And the harassment on PMs
And the stalking
And the mass report of threads
And the sock accounts impersonating you
And the Call Out threads
And the Youtube call out videos
...
fun stuff
LOL. You've obviously never seen a full blown meltdown because someone has a different PoV to your favourite movie (generic you, not Joel you). eg La La Land - I didnt like it on my first attempt so walked out within 30 minutes. Gave it a second view with a change of mood and really liked it. One old guy went off the deepend because i didnt love love love it and then started following me around to take pot shots, even when discussing other movies. It was hilarious...until the novelty wore off. Then the place imploded. I blame that board.
Actually, I did take the piss a bit from Miss Vicky, and I feel kinda foul about it. Sorry Miss Vicky. Midnight Run is still one of my favorites, but hey...I'm kind of a buffoon so,...
Midnight Run is amazing, that was fully deserved.
Omnizoa
03-23-17, 02:01 PM
Hence why I said it is OUR DUTY to be clear to others. Black and White. No second interpretations.
...........................................moose.
TheUsualSuspect
03-23-17, 02:01 PM
Actually, I did take the piss a bit from Miss Vicky, and I feel kinda foul about it. Sorry Miss Vicky. Midnight Run is still one of my favorites, but hey...I'm kind of a buffoon so,...
Never apologize to her!!!!
I can't believe I'm resorting to 50 Cent here, but my 50 cents is that we all need to go to the candy shop. Candy makes everything better, except your teeth and health. Actually I hate candy, so nevermind.
:docbrown:
Never apologize to her!!!!
Why is she an infamous meanie on here? ;):p
Little Devil
03-23-17, 02:04 PM
[QUOTE]Even were I to accept that without evidence, this post remains the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, no? My point still stands.Dude, you're the Detective. Do your work then. Because as it stands, you just being silly.
It was a proposition. Not a supposition.No, that was stating a fact with half the story in hand. Which makes it a fallible supposition.
That's rather antagonistic isn't it?No it isn't. And I gave you an example with The Rodent. But it is clear you have an agenda from the get go,. Which makes you a dubious person to take a fact from.
I wasn't suggested you take him off your ignore list, I was suggesting that you put him there unfairly and that such a precedent is a slippery slope.Was it? That is YOUR pov. Certainly not mine. But given that you even came forth suggesting I do the same with you, your agenda is becoming clear.
Sounds vindictive to me So being honest and cordial is being vindictive? Only to those who are untrustworthy themselves, maybe?
I'm having a blast acknowledging you attempt at making me contradict myself. Specially when you are out to fail.
I also having a blast watching you twitch and turn, It'0s all for naught tho. You realize that? You aren't making a point - except a bad one for yourself, which you already did once, but not towards me - you're just trying to make a ruckus of a non-issue [it's a non-issue to me, and of all the people it concerns [me], I can assure you the subject is pretty much dead and buried]
TheUsualSuspect
03-23-17, 02:05 PM
Why is she an infamous meanie on here? ;):p
:yup::yup::yup:
Little Devil
03-23-17, 02:06 PM
...........................................moose.
Care to explain?
Citizen Rules
03-23-17, 02:24 PM
Long thread and a lot said!...My reaction & 2 cents worth.
I don't care if someone is a former IMDB member, I don't care how long you've been here...I only care about how you interact with me and how you treat the MoFo community. And we are a community. Unlike IMDB which was so big that it was impersonal....MoFo is a community, with it's own history and customs.
Most all of the IMDB people have been fine and are fitting in well. But I don't want to see MoFo changed into something more aggressive, by a small handful of former argumentative IMDB people, who seem more interested in challenging everyone and everything around them....than joining in the fun and discussing movies. There's 2 or 3 of you who are overly defensive and are ready to fight at a drop of a hat.....please take it to Facebook if supporting your friends and fighting anyone who disagrees with your friends is what you want to do. I've seen boards ruined by 'tag team' fighting. I don't want to see those games here.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe"
*Sits in a shadowy corner with head lowered and, for some reason, wearing a cowboy hat* I've seen things...make the mightiest of men cry like schoolgirls and run home to their mommies. Where I come from...the measure of a man is not taken by rep points.
We never truly made it out of that jungle...we carried it with us...its eyes still ever upon us...ever watching...
You think you know horror? BAH! I've watched the souls of many a man be consumed while their still-living bodies had to WATCH!
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/tropic_thunder39.jpg
Oh yeah, the whining cry babies were hilarious when they got in Meltdown mode and started to threat to kill anyone who disagreed with them.
And the harassment on PMs
And the stalking
And the mass report of threads
And the sock accounts impersonating you
And the Call Out threads
And the Youtube call out videos
...
fun stuff
And to think--it was all over us not liking their movie. :yup:
make the mightiest of men cry like schoolgirls and run home to their mommies.]
That's misogyny. I;m faux offended.
Little Devil
03-23-17, 02:35 PM
Long thread and a lot said!...My reaction & 2 cents worth.
I don't care if someone is a former IMDB member, I don't care how long you've been here...I only care about how you interact with me and how you treat the MoFo community. And we are a community. Unlike IMDB which was so big that it was impersonal....MoFo is a community, with it's own history and customs.
Most all of the IMDB people have been fine and are fitting in well. But I don't want to see MoFo changed into something more aggressive, by a small handful of former argumentative IMDB people, who seem more interested in challenging everyone and everything around them....than joining in the fun and discussing movies. There's 2 or 3 of you who are overly defensive and are ready to fight at a drop of a hat.....please take it to Facebook if supporting your friends and fighting anyone who disagrees with your friends is what you want to do. I've seen boards ruined by 'tag team' fighting. I don't want to see those games here.
It's fine if you're of the opinion that IMDBers are the cause of attrition. I'm not. I still respect you though.
coffeegod
03-23-17, 02:37 PM
*Sits in a shadowy corner with head lowered and, for some reason, wearing a cowboy hat* I've seen things...make the mightiest of men cry like schoolgirls and run home to their mommies. Where I come from...the measure of a man is not taken by rep points.
We never truly made it out of that jungle...we carried it with us...its eyes still ever upon us...ever watching...
You think you know horror? BAH! I've watched the souls of many a man be consumed while their still-living bodies had to WATCH!
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/tropic_thunder39.jpg
I laughed so hard over this reply I snorked coffee out my nose and down my shirt. The coughing fit was worth it.
Actually, I did take the piss a bit from Miss Vicky, and I feel kinda foul about it. Sorry @Miss Vicky (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=55955). Midnight Run is still one of my favorites, but hey...I'm kind of a buffoon so,...
Sounds like you have nothing to be sorry about in that situation...least of all to her of all people. You should like whatever you like and never feel sorry for that opinion busting someone's balls. :yup:
It's fine if you're of the opinion that IMDBers are the cause of attrition. I'm not. I still respect you though.
Just when you think the dust has settled someone has to kick up the us against them mentality again. :facepalm:
Citizen Rules
03-23-17, 02:38 PM
It's fine if you're of the opinion that IMDBers are the cause of attrition. I'm not. I still respect you though.I was very careful to say:
Most all of the IMDB people have been fine and are fitting in well
a small handful of former argumentative IMDB people
I laughed so hard over this reply I snorked coffee out my nose and down my shirt. The coughing fit was worth it.
LOL @ snorked. I thought I was the only person who said that. Splurked is another good one.
Why is she an infamous meanie on here? ;):p
She was the first person here I placed on ignore...after only a week here, so...
She was the first person here I placed on ignore...after only a week here, so...
So am I allowed to troll her mercilessly?
Just kidding.
I laughed so hard over this reply I snorked coffee out my nose and down my shirt. The coughing fit was worth it.
Why, thank you. I have my moments, I guess. :p
So am I allowed to troll her mercilessly?
Just kidding.
A lot of people wouldn't blame you if you did and that's NOT kidding...
Still, we're better than that. :yup:
coffeegod
03-23-17, 02:49 PM
LOL @ snorked. I thought I was the only person who said that. Splurked is another good one.
Splorch is one of my favorite sound words. I thought I invented it until I saw it crop up in the closed captions for something I was watching!
That's misogyny. I;m faux offended.
:nope:
She was the first person here I placed on ignore...after only a week here, so...
What did she do?
Want to point out that post of mine you repped earlier was a joke, i thought you took it as a joke but obviously not since you have her on ignore haha.
Splorch is one of my favorite sound words. I thought I invented it until I saw it crop up in the closed captions for something I was watching!
LOL. I'm going to have to reheat my coffee and see if I can splorch over the keyboard. Sounds rude.
A lot of people wouldn't blame you if you did and that's NOT kidding...
Still, we're better than that. :yup:
A lot of people would blame him too, she is very popular here and rightfully so.
Great member :cool:
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