View Full Version : Musical Artist Movie Hall of Fame
SilentVamp
02-24-17, 03:38 PM
33008
Welcome!
This is one half of a duo of musical-themed hall of fames. It will be running in conjunction with Citizen Rules’ Live Action Musical Hall of Fame (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1655860#post1655860). You are more than welcome to join this one, that one, or both.
The theme of this Hall of Fame is pretty simple. The stories of these films must be based on any real or fictional singer, musician, band, songwriter or composer.
Eligibility:
Any film (drama, comedy, musical, et.c.) or documentary that focuses around something from the list mentioned above.
Requirements:
-It would be appreciated that the participating members watch and comment on each film. It doesn’t matter if you choose to write a full review or just a few lines. Saying a little something will show that you are an active member of the HoF, and it will keep your nomination from possibly being disqualified.
Please Note:
-Please PM your nomination to me by Tuesday, February 28, 12:00 Midnight CST.
-The deadline will be based on the number of participants (with an extra week added on to that number). The deadline will be stated at the bottom of the list of nominated films.
-If, for whatever reason, a person should feel that he/she may not want to participate after the nominations have been revealed, then that person will have 24 hours after the nominations have been posted to make the decision to no longer be a part of the hall of fame. If a person should decide to stay in, it will then be assumed that he/she will finish the hall of fame. This opportunity will be available so that we can attempt to reduce the number of any possible dropouts during the run of the HoF, which will also prevent the remaining participants from having to watch any unnecessary films.
Have Fun!
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Participants
Citizen Rules
Clazor
edarsenal
SilentVamp
ShopkeeperTriumph
Destiny
gbgoodies
Gideon58
SilentVamp
02-24-17, 03:43 PM
33010
The Buddy Holly Story (Steve Rash, 1978)
Nominated by Citizen Rules
33011
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny (Liam Lynch, 2006)
Nominated by Clazor
33012
Pink Floyd - The Wall (Alan Parker, 1982)
Nominated by edarsenal
33013
Walk the Line (James Mangold, 2005)
Nominated by SilentVamp
33014
Once (John Carney, 2007)
Nominated by ShopkeeperTriumph
Ineligible
33015
Eddie and the Cruisers (Martin Davidson, 1983)
Nominated by Destiny
33016
The Idolmaker (Taylor Hackford, 1980)
Nominated by gbgoodies
33017
Sweet Dreams (Karel Reisz, 1985)
Nominated by Gideon58
33018
La Bamba (Luis Valdez, 1987)
Nominated by Citizen Rules
33019
School of Rock (Richard Linklater, 2003)
Nominated by Clazor
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/posterschoolofrock_zps16bug3yo.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/posterschoolofrock_zps16bug3yo.jpg.html)
Amadeus (Milos Forman, 1984)
Nominated by edarsenal
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/posteramadeus2_zps3nrctzuw.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/posteramadeus2_zps3nrctzuw.jpg.html)
The Commitments (Alan Parker, 1991)
Nominated by SilentVamp
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/postercommitments2_zpsjr9c9bos.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/postercommitments2_zpsjr9c9bos.jpg.html)
Get Him to the Greek (Nicholas Stoller, 2010)
Nominated by ShopkeeperTriumph
Ineligible
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/postergreek_zps30hlb4ay.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/postergreek_zps30hlb4ay.jpg.html)
Coal Miner’s Daughter (Michael Apted, 1980)
Nominated by Destiny
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/postercoalminers_zpsalz4q6bb.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/postercoalminers_zpsalz4q6bb.jpg.html)
The Jazz Singer (Richard Fleischer, 1980)
Nominated by gbgoodies
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/posterjazzsinger_zpsurmwktsy.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/posterjazzsinger_zpsurmwktsy.jpg.html)
Ray (Taylor Hackford, 2004)
Nominated by Gideon58
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/Kassak1865/Album2/posterray_zps8sodv9zf.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/Kassak1865/media/Album2/posterray_zps8sodv9zf.jpg.html)
Deadline: Sunday, July 2nd
SilentVamp
02-24-17, 03:43 PM
33020
The Buddy Holly Story
gbgoodies (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1664761#post1664761)
CitizenRules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1670800#post1670800)
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1677904#post1677904)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1687374#post1687374)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688336#post1688336)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1702374#post1702374)
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny
edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1665281#post1665281)
Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1666323#post1666323)
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1666411#post1666411)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688331#post1688331)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1690912#post1690912)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1726663#post1726663)
Pink Floyd – The Wall
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1667732#post1667732)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1677315#post1677315)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688329#post1688329)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1692874#post1692874)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1704254#post1704254)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1727308#post1727308)
Walk the Line
gbgoodies (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1664759#post1664759)
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1667447#post1667447)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1677709#post1677709)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1683592#post1683592)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1692676#post1692676)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1697830#post1697830)
**Nestorio_Miklos (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1683959#post1683959)
Once*
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1669121#post1669121)
GIdeon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1672094#post1672094)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1674604#post1674604)
Eddie and the Cruisers
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1678501#post1678501)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1679883#post1679883)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688330#post1688330)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1691382#post1691382)
The Idolmaker
Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1665360#post1665360)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688327#post1688327)
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1697172#post1697172)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724910#post1724910)
Sweet Dreams
edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1667043#post1667043)
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1667441#post1667441)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688328#post1688328)
CitizenRules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1699115#post1699115)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1706656#post1706656)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725262#post1725262)
La Bamba
gbgoodies (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1664763#post1664763)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1676047#post1676047)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1692680#post1692680)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1719039#post1719039)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724882#post1724882)
School of Rock
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1682152#post1682152)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688332#post1688332)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1689562#post1689562)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1690918#post1690918)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1701197#post1701197)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1727920#post1727920)
**Nestorio_Miklos (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1683622#post1683622)
Amadeus
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1674602#post1674602)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1680274#post1680274)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1687331#post1687331)
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1699919#post1699919)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724918#post1724918)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1727513#post1727513)
**Nestorio_Miklos (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1680164#post1680164)
The Commitments
edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1666020#post1666020)
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1668303#post1668303)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688140#post1688140)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688337#post1688337)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1706650#post1706650)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724893#post1724893)
Get Him to the Greek*
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1667460#post1667460)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1679275#post1679275)
Coal Miner’s Daughter
gbgoodies (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1664754#post1664754)
Gideon58 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1667452#post1667452)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1682046#post1682046)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1684275#post1684275)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688335#post1688335)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724904#post1724904)
The Jazz Singer
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1678271#post1678271)
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1680708#post1680708)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688333#post1688333)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711334#post1711334)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725264#post1725264)
Ray
Gideon58 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1669070#post1669070)
Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1683972#post1683972)
SilentVamp (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1688338#post1688338)
edarsenal (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1691619#post1691619)
gbgoodies (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1706667#post1706667)
Clazor (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725263#post1725263)
Eh, why not? I'm in, SV. Will send nomination shortly.
SilentVamp
02-24-17, 03:55 PM
Eh, why not? I'm in, SV. Will send nomination shortly.
Great! And you still have a few days to send in the nomination. So no rush there right now. :)
Edit: Ignore this because you just sent it. :D
edarsenal
02-24-17, 04:28 PM
sending my nom right now
gbgoodies
02-25-17, 03:41 AM
This HoF will probably have a much wider variety of music than the other one, and I don't want to join, and then drop out just because I don't like the type of music in some of the nominated movies, so I'm thinking about joining this HoF, but I'm not sure if I should join this or not. If I decide to join, I have no intentions of dropping out even if the music isn't my type of music, so I'll let you know by the end of the weekend.
Best of luck with this, same with Citizens one. I would join one of them but i'm not a big fan of musicals so i think there'd be a high percentage of films not for me and i'd rather not be relentlessly negative. Also i just joined 4 Hall of Fames (not counting Animated Shorts) in a row so i would like to take a break from them.
If there's anything i'm interested in i might watch it and join in with the discussion.
ShopkeeperTriumph
02-25-17, 07:57 AM
Sent my movie in.
SilentVamp
02-25-17, 01:48 PM
This HoF will probably have a much wider variety of music than the other one, and I don't want to join, and then drop out just because I don't like the type of music in some of the nominated movies, so I'm thinking about joining this HoF, but I'm not sure if I should join this or not. If I decide to join, I have no intentions of dropping out even if the music isn't my type of music, so I'll let you know by the end of the weekend.
There is a variety so far. And this will be a very varied HoF, which I kind of like. There is a variation on the type of movies, too. But, yes, it is up to you. :)
If there's anything i'm interested in i might watch it and join in with the discussion.
Of course, you can take a break, but if you really wanted to join in after the films have been posted, and they seem interesting enough to you, I'd let you join, if you want to. I am willing to break rules for people, if they really want to join. :) And there aren't really any musicals in here in the sense that I think you mean. At least not yet. :)
SilentVamp
02-25-17, 02:42 PM
Camo I always say, though, that you can never lure someone into temptation unless the desire was already there to begin with. :)
It is up to you, of course. In fact, if anyone wanted to join after they saw the nominations, I would let them. I don't care. :D
edarsenal
02-25-17, 02:59 PM
I do like the idea behind this and looking forward to see what gets nominated.
And really like the laid back approach you're going with, SV.
And camo and GBG, even if you just pop in occasionally or join in later; that would be pretty great
Citizen Rules
02-25-17, 06:29 PM
I do like the idea behind this and looking forward to see what gets nominated.
And really like the laid back approach you're going with, SV.
And camo and GBG, even if you just pop in occasionally or join in later; that would be pretty great The more the merrier:p
Camo I always say, though, that you can never lure someone into temptation unless the desire was already there to begin with. :)
It is up to you, of course. In fact, if anyone wanted to join after they saw the nominations, I would let them. I don't care. :D
Yeah, i'm definitely tempted but i'm going to sit this one out. I was planning on sitting out the 12th but then Cricket called me a goat (it won't work twice so don't try :p) and i just wasn't going to stand for that haha. If i hadn't joined that one i may have joined this but since i did that means i was in the 10th, 11th, 40s, Animation and 12th all after each other not to mention the Animated Shorts one that i ran. The 10th started in June last year so that's 8 months of these and with watching others nominations and my personal life i haven't really had a chance to consistently watch movies of my own choice for a while.
Thanks alot though and as i said i'll follow it and chip in if i can. Best of luck, same with the Live Action Musical HOF. :)
Edit: Actually, i even forgot about the Animation one i was in so that was 5 in a row basically.
Thursday Next
02-26-17, 04:47 AM
I am tempted by this...
SilentVamp
02-26-17, 01:02 PM
Yeah, i'm definitely tempted but i'm going to sit this one out
Oh, fine then! :rolleyes:
But I understand. :)
I am tempted by this...
Well, all I can say to you is what I have said to Camo:
I always say, though, that you can never lure someone into temptation unless the desire was already there to begin with.
:D
I thought that you might be interested in this one, too. So we would love to have you be a part of it. :) I was just wondering if you were going to be back on here in time for the start of these (I knew you didn't leave this place because you never even finished your top movie list :)).
Citizen Rules
02-26-17, 01:15 PM
I am tempted by this... You should join:) It's a small Hof so easy to do, and they are often the funniest ones:p
Ðèstîñy
02-26-17, 05:55 PM
I am tempted by this...
Hello! Long time, no talk. How have you been?
OK, Vamp has PMed me about this thread, and way back when, when this idea was first made, we did discuss it a lot. I did post my love for the idea, as well as the movies that would work for this thread.
So OK, I will join in on this thread. Thanks for the invite, Miss Vamp. I will go with the movie I PMed to you, earlier today. :)
SilentVamp
02-26-17, 06:09 PM
I will go with the movie I PMed to you, earlier today. :)
Like there was really any other movie that you were even going to maybe nominate. ;)
edarsenal
02-27-17, 04:26 PM
WELCOME Destiny!!
And I do hope you join, Thursday!!
And Camo you goa- oh, wait, this wasn't gonna work again. . . crap
Though VERY valid reasons and you really do a whole lot, so. . . purely understandable
Ðèstîñy
02-27-17, 07:51 PM
WELCOME Destiny!!
And I do hope you join, Thursday!!
I've got to be out of my mind, but I'm in. Thanks, sweetie! It helps a whole lot when there's people as sweet as you involved. ;)
I tried like crazy to get a few other people involved, but so far I just have 2-3 that will check it out, or they're already thinking about it. Bummers!
edarsenal
02-27-17, 08:13 PM
quality over quantity so it's all good!
SilentVamp
02-28-17, 05:05 PM
The reveal will be tomorrow. I don't know when just yet. I planned on doing it early but with this unexpected snow situation that is suddenly going to happen, I may do it later in the day (mainly because I will be shoveling for awhile).
So today is the last call for anyone who might want to join before the nominations are revealed tomorrow.
To be honest, I still don't have anything picked out. There are about 5 films that I am thinking about, but I am just not certain which one of those I really want to nominate the most. I have a different reason for nominating each one, but I haven't been able to settle on just one of them yet.
edarsenal
02-28-17, 09:08 PM
The reveal will be tomorrow.
To be honest, I still don't have anything picked out. There are about 5 films that I am thinking about, but I am just not certain which one of those I really want to nominate the most. I have a different reason for nominating each one, but I haven't been able to settle on just one of them yet.
Sounds great and I TOTALLY feel your pain. I had a few choices as well, it was that the one I went for, was screaming the loudest "pick me!" lol
SilentVamp
02-28-17, 10:09 PM
Sounds great and I TOTALLY feel your pain. I had a few choices as well, it was that the one I went for, was screaming the loudest "pick me!" lol
I wish one would scream like that at me! :) There are basically only 3 people in my life that know I participate in these things - my mother and 2 of my brothers. I gave them the list of films and told them to choose one. Of course they all chose something different. :rolleyes: So, in the end, it will still be my decision. Oh, it is just too much to take. :D
edarsenal
02-28-17, 11:56 PM
that is truly one of those laugh out loud or burst out crying moments!!!
HOLY ***** that sucks!
SilentVamp
03-01-17, 12:23 AM
OK. This is what I have decided.
As what was just suggested to me, I will still do the reveal tomorrow - March 1st, but I will also still give that extra day to anyone who chooses to add a second movie to the HoF. Then there will be a second reveal with the other films the next day, March 2nd.
edarsenal
03-01-17, 12:39 AM
SUHWEET!!!
THANKS SV
gbgoodies
03-01-17, 12:40 AM
Is it too late for me to join this HoF?
Citizen Rules
03-01-17, 12:51 AM
Is it too late for me to join this HoF? I don't know if Vamp is still online but the deadline is not up yet, so I'm sure she would be happy to have you!
Please PM your nomination to me by Tuesday, February 28, 12:00 Midnight CST. It's only 10:50 CST right now.
gbgoodies
03-01-17, 12:58 AM
I don't know if Vamp is still online but the deadline is not up yet, so I'm sure she would be happy to have you!
It's only 10:50 CST right now.
Thanks. She sent me a PM telling me it's not too late, so I sent her my nom. :)
I'll figure out a second movie to nominate later tonight. (It's hard to think about musical movies while I'm listening to the songs in the song tournament.)
Citizen Rules
03-01-17, 01:03 AM
Glad to have you GBG:) I'm curious as to what you will pick. I think you might like my nom.
gbgoodies
03-01-17, 01:08 AM
Glad to have you GBG:) I'm curious as to what you will pick. I think you might like my nom.
I'll only give you one hint. I tried to stay away from music that I thought everyone would hate, so it's not a country music movie. It's more of a common type of music. Hopefully everyone will like it.
edarsenal
03-01-17, 01:23 AM
glad to see you've joined gbg!
gbgoodies
03-01-17, 01:26 AM
glad to see you've joined gbg!
Thanks. I love classic musicals, but this HoF should have a larger variety of music types, so I had to think about it first.
edarsenal
03-01-17, 01:29 AM
I definitely like the two concepts and that they're going at the exact same time. Should be a lot of fun
I grew up on a lot of the musicals during the sixties and seventies were ALWAYS on TV when I was young so I'm looking forward to revisiting them and to see some of the older ones that I haven't seen since childhood.
gbgoodies
03-01-17, 01:31 AM
I definitely like the two concepts and that they're going at the exact same time. Should be a lot of fun
Yeah, I like the idea of the two similar but different HoFs running at the same time too. Musicals and rom-coms are my two favorite movie genres, so I'm looking forward to these HoFs.
edarsenal
03-01-17, 01:34 AM
don't see a RomCom HoF, we may have to see if there's an interest for that one lol
gbgoodies
03-01-17, 01:37 AM
don't see a RomCom HoF, we may have to see if there's an interest for that one lol
There don't seem to be a lot of rom-com fans here, but I'd be interested in a rom-com HoF if there are enough people interested in it. (As long as we don't get a bunch of zombie and werewolf rom-coms. I don't know, some of the people here might even nominate slasher rom-coms :eek:)
SilentVamp
03-01-17, 02:17 PM
The films are posted.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1655692#post1655692
The deadline is pending now on the number of second nominations that I am receiving. Those will be announced tomorrow.
As long as we don't get a bunch of zombie and werewolf rom-coms.
I don't really consider Jane Austen a "rom-com" ever, but your comment made me think of "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies". I never read the book (I only read two of the books like that: Little Women and Werewolves and Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter). The books were OK, but I didn't know if I'd have an interest in the Pride and Prejudice one. I decided to watch the movie a few months ago. It was HORRIBLE. Just horrible. It was so boring. It was just bad. If someone likes it, fine, but it was agonizing for me to watch. No real purpose to my comment, I guess, but that just reminded me of that film (which is the only thing I could see someone nominating) and I just had to say how much I HATED it. :sick:
I honestly wouldn't mind doing a ghost story themed HoF, but I don't know how much interest there would be in that. The idea came to my mind a few months ago when I just happened to watch 3 films over one weekend with ghosts as the main subject. I don't particularly consider any ghost story as a horror story. I always think of them as either suspense or thriller when they are meant to keep people a little on edge when watching them. But I guess the one would be considered "horror" (like I said, I wouldn't), the next would have to be nothing but a suspense film and the third was a comedy. And then I thought that if enough people had enough interest in it, there could be such a wide variety of films. But I don't know if there would be enough people to care about it to even try it.
Citizen Rules
03-01-17, 03:10 PM
My thoughts on the noms...👍 I like them at first glance! A lot of cool movies, some I've seen and loved, and some I've wanted to see...and a few I've never heard of. This should be fun:)
The Buddy Holly Story (Steve Rash, 1978)
Nominated by Citizen Rules
My nom of course, I hope Mary Tyler Moore has a cameo.;) (I wonder if anyone will get that?)
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny (Liam Lynch, 2006)
Nominated by Clazor
No idea and never heard of it...but I've like Clazor's nom in the 12th Hof, so I have high hopes!
Pink Floyd - The Wall (Alan Parker, 1982)
Nominated by edarsenal
I've seen this a couple times when I was much younger. The Wall is my favorite album:) It will be interesting to revisit this as it's been decades.
Walk the Line (James Mangold, 2005)
Nominated by SilentVamp
I've seen this and loved it, so glad to watch it again.
Once (John Carney, 2007)
Nominated by ShopkeeperTriumph
I've not heard of it, but the movie poster looks like something I could get into. I like a good romance story.
Eddie and the Cruisers (Martin Davidson, 1983)
Nominated by Destiny
Glad this was nominated:) I've been wanting to see it since it first came out!
The Idolmaker (Martin Davidson, 1983)
Nominated by gbgoodies
Never heard of this one either, but it looks like a 1950's period piece, which is cool by me:p
CosmicRunaway
03-01-17, 03:25 PM
I've been meaning to watch Tenacious D for awhile now. I've heard songs of theirs that I like, but some friends of mine who listen to them did not really like the film that much, so I've kept putting it off. Seeing it nominated here makes me want to finally watch it though.
One of my friends was really obsessed with the Tenacious D film when it came out so i saw it alot, saw clips, heard the songs, etc. Got pretty sick of it, but yeah it's funny at times. Also seen Walk The Line which was fine. Might watch Once for this since it's on the Millennium List.
Thursday Next
03-01-17, 04:59 PM
I didn't join in the end because I didn't want to bite off more than I could chew with two HoFs. This looks like an interesting selection though, I'll keep an eye on the posts :)
SilentVamp
03-01-17, 05:02 PM
I hope Mary Tyler Moore has a cameo.;) (I wonder if anyone will get that?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemivUKb4f4
SilentVamp
03-01-17, 05:08 PM
Camo
Thursday Next
In case you two are interested, the participants are being given the chance to nominate a second film, too. Those will be announced tomorrow. So that will be something to look for, in case there is anything in that group that might interest you to watch.
ShopkeeperTriumph
03-01-17, 05:24 PM
I've never watched The Buddy Holly Story, but I've heard good things. Never heard of Eddie and the Crusaders, or The Idolmaker. I've seen both The Wall, and Walk the Line. Thank god Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny is on here, it's really funny, I used to watch it all the time. It was probably the most popular movie in my friend group during middle school/high school, I couldn't even tell you how many times I sat through it without getting sick of it.
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny [/B](Liam Lynch, 2006)
Nominated by Clazor
No idea and never heard of it...but I've like Clazor's nom in the 12th Hof, so I have high hopes!
Oh my dear, dear Citizen...I don't know if you'll like this or not, but seeing as your nom seems to be about Buddy Holly I'm guessing you're into classic rock and I can assure you, there is a classical rock number in this, just you wait. :p
I feel that my nom will be a bit of hit or miss among you, basically getting down to the point of wether you like Jack Black or not. As it is with the man himself, the movie's over the top, loud and energetic.
As for your nom and the others, they look mighty interesting. I've seen Walk the Line before, though I remember very little of it. The rest are completely new to me, so this will be fun. Can't wait!
CosmicRunaway
03-01-17, 05:33 PM
Is the best song in the world in Pick of Destiny? At a sci-fi convention a few years ago, a guy with a guitar started singing "Tribute", and practically the entire room started to sing along, it was really fun.
Citizen Rules
03-01-17, 05:35 PM
Oh my dear, dear Citizen...I don't know if you'll like this or not, but seeing as your nom seems to be about Buddy Holly I'm guessing you're into classic rock and I can assure you, there is a classical rock number in this, just you wait. :p
I feel that my nom will be a bit of hit or miss among you, basically getting down to the point of wether you like Jack Black or not. I do like Jack Black, so that's a plus.
Citizen Rules
03-01-17, 05:36 PM
Weezer...Vamp got it:p
Is the best song in the world in Pick of Destiny? At a sci-fi convention a few years ago, a guy with a guitar started singing "Tribute", and practically the entire room started to sing along, it was really fun.
Sadly, no...or maybe. I don't remember exactly, but if it's in there it should be at the very end, maybe even playing during the end credits.
edarsenal
03-01-17, 08:48 PM
this looks really great!
Already sent in my secondary, so, nothin left but the initial thoughts on the primary list:
The Buddy Holly Story (Steve Rash, 1978)
Nominated by Citizen Rules Been quite a long time since seeing this one but I do remember Busey doing a really great job as Buddy Holly and, yes, I got the Mary Tyler Moore reference, CR :)
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny (Liam Lynch, 2006)
Nominated by Clazor I actually avoided this when it came out because I was very much over Jack Black at the time. But I'm pretty sure I'll have an open mind for it this time around and will probably enjoy Black belting out the rock songs
Pink Floyd - The Wall (Alan Parker, 1982)
Nominated by edarsena One of my favorite stoner experience movies from my teenage daze. Had found a really good copy of this on youtube last year and enjoyed seeing it again and like I told SV, it screamed the loudest out of the ones I was considering.
Walk the Line (James Mangold, 2005)
Nominated by SilentVamp Great, great flick. Been wanting to rewatch this for some time.
Once (John Carney, 2007)
Nominated by ShopkeeperTriumph This is a complete unknown for me, so really looking forward to checking this out.
Eddie and the Cruisers (Martin Davidson, 1983)
Nominated by Destiny One of those that "always wanted to see but never did" Thanks for helping knock this bucket list off the list. :)
The Idolmaker (Martin Davidson, 1983)
Nominated by gbgoodies and bucket list #2 from the very same year as Eddie and the Cruisers. Sweet!
Little Devil
03-01-17, 08:56 PM
whaaaaa? No SHINE, THIS IS SPINAL TAP, AMADEUS, My Immortal Beloved, La Bamba...???
HERESY I SAY!!!!!
http://i.imgur.com/ObkNL5v.png
edarsenal
03-01-17, 09:32 PM
I COMPLETELY forgot about Shine!!!
ah, screw it, I STILL woulda went with my nom anyway lol
Citizen Rules
03-01-17, 10:23 PM
whaaaaa? No SHINE, THIS IS SPINAL TAP, AMADEUS, My Immortal Beloved, La Bamba...???
HERESY I SAY!!!!! I wouldn't be surprised if one of those fine movies turn up.:p
edarsenal
03-01-17, 10:31 PM
I wouldn't put it past this crowd at all :)
SilentVamp
03-01-17, 10:34 PM
whaaaaa? No SHINE, THIS IS SPINAL TAP, AMADEUS, My Immortal Beloved, La Bamba...???
I actually forgot about Shine, too. :blush: But I did consider the other 4, to be honest.
So I forgot Shine and I forgot one that I received tonight as a second nom. That just shows that this HoF could go on forever if people kept nominating films. There is such a long, varied list out there that could be a part of this HoF.
Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see if any of those that were mentioned will pop up in the second list tomorrow. :) Maybe. Maybe not. :)
Little Devil
03-01-17, 10:49 PM
I actually forgot about Shine, too. :blush: But I did consider the other 4, to be honest.
So I forgot Shine and I forgot one that I received tonight as a second nom. That just shows that this HoF could go on forever if people kept nominating films. There is such a long, varied list out there that could be a part of this HoF.
Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see if any of those that were mentioned will pop up in the second list tomorrow. :) Maybe. Maybe not. :)
I won't be playing the game, but I'll leave them there just because I'm such a good little devil.
See how cute I am?
http://clipart-library.com/images/8cxrEA85i.png
edarsenal
03-01-17, 10:55 PM
you, sir, are ADORABLE
lol
gbgoodies
03-02-17, 02:07 AM
I don't really consider Jane Austen a "rom-com" ever, but your comment made me think of "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies". I never read the book (I only read two of the books like that: Little Women and Werewolves and Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter). The books were OK, but I didn't know if I'd have an interest in the Pride and Prejudice one. I decided to watch the movie a few months ago. It was HORRIBLE. Just horrible. It was so boring. It was just bad. If someone likes it, fine, but it was agonizing for me to watch. No real purpose to my comment, I guess, but that just reminded me of that film (which is the only thing I could see someone nominating) and I just had to say how much I HATED it. :sick:
I honestly wouldn't mind doing a ghost story themed HoF, but I don't know how much interest there would be in that. The idea came to my mind a few months ago when I just happened to watch 3 films over one weekend with ghosts as the main subject. I don't particularly consider any ghost story as a horror story. I always think of them as either suspense or thriller when they are meant to keep people a little on edge when watching them. But I guess the one would be considered "horror" (like I said, I wouldn't), the next would have to be nothing but a suspense film and the third was a comedy. And then I thought that if enough people had enough interest in it, there could be such a wide variety of films. But I don't know if there would be enough people to care about it to even try it.
I don't mind ghost stories when they're more suspense and/or thriller movies, but I hate the blood and gore in most modern horror movies. I wouldn't join a ghost story HoF because there would most likely be a few movies in it that I would hate, but I might participate a bit from the sidelines.
gbgoodies
03-02-17, 02:11 AM
I won't be playing the game, but I'll leave them there just because I'm such a good little devil.
See how cute I am?
http://clipart-library.com/images/8cxrEA85i.png
You should make that picture your avatar. It's adorable. :)
gbgoodies
03-02-17, 02:27 AM
The Buddy Holly Story (Steve Rash, 1978)
I'm not a big fan of Buddy Holly, but I don't dislike him either. I've seen this movie before, but not recently, so it will be nice to rewatch it.
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny (Liam Lynch, 2006)
I've never heard of this movie, and I don't know anything about it.
Pink Floyd - The Wall (Alan Parker, 1982)
This was another midnight movie that I was dragged to too many times back in college. I didn't understand it then, and I doubt I'll understand it now. But at least Hubby has it on DVD, so it will be easy for me to find.
Walk the Line (James Mangold, 2005)
As a country music fan, I've seen this movie several times, and I have it on DVD, so of course, it's a favorite, and I'm looking forward to watching it again.
Once (John Carney, 2007)
I've heard a couple of songs from this movie, but I haven't seen the movie yet. I tried DVRing it a while back when it aired as the PBS Saturday night movie, but my DVR messed up, and I missed it. I'm looking forward to finally watching it.
Eddie and the Cruisers (Martin Davidson, 1983)
This was on my shortlist of movies to nominate for this HoF, and it came down to my nomination or this, so I'm glad to see that this was nominated by someone else.
The Idolmaker (Taylor Hackford, 1980)
(BTW, the year for The Idolmaker is 1980, not 1983, and it was directed by Taylor Hackford, not Martin Davidson.)
This is my nomination, so of course it's another favorite movie for me. I tried to stay away from country music because I know that most of you don't like country music, so I didn't want to force you to watch a movie filled with music you hate. Hopefully at least some of you will enjoy this movie.
For those of you who haven't heard of The Idolmaker, it's based on the biographies of Fabian, Frankie Avalon, and the guy who discovered them, Bob Marcucci.
Little Devil
03-02-17, 05:31 AM
Pink Floyd - The Wall (Alan Parker, 1982)
This was another midnight movie that I was dragged to too many times back in college. I didn't understand it then, and I doubt I'll understand it now. But at least Hubby has it on DVD, so it will be easy for me to find.
It's rather straightforward. Pink [the main character] is Roger Waters, Pink Floyd's bass player.
The movie is pretty much his own Ego masturbation. It's all about him.
His sorrow for his dad's death [his dad was a soldier]
His smothering relationship with his mom
His school days
His failed marriage
His contempt for stardom
And his [awful] relationship with the audience
It's a classic case of "me me me me me"
Thursday Next
03-02-17, 10:53 AM
don't see a RomCom HoF, we may have to see if there's an interest for that one lol
There don't seem to be a lot of rom-com fans here, but I'd be interested in a rom-com HoF if there are enough people interested in it. (As long as we don't get a bunch of zombie and werewolf rom-coms. I don't know, some of the people here might even nominate slasher rom-coms :eek:)
I'd join a rom-com HoF.
I'd even promise not to nominate any zombie rom-coms. Or zom-rom-coms.
(Although you might have to specify it as a non-zom-rom-com hall of fame...)
SilentVamp
03-02-17, 02:56 PM
The rest of the movies have been posted. But if you are too lazy to go looking for it :), this is the complete list now (with the new set of second nominations listed in blue):
The Buddy Holly Story
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny
Pink Floyd – The Wall
Walk the Line
Once
Eddie and the Cruisers
The Idolmaker
La Bamba
School of Rock
Amadeus
The Commitments
Get Him to the Greek
Coal Miner’s Daughter
The Jazz Singer
(clearly someone is a fan of Jack Black ;)).
But if you are curious to see who nominated what, just go back to the first page:
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1655692#post1655692
And when thoughts/reviews come in, the links to those specific ones will be listed here:
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1655693#post1655693
The deadline is Sunday, June 18th.
(BTW, the year for The Idolmaker is 1980, not 1983, and it was directed by Taylor Hackford, not Martin Davidson.)
Thanks for pointing that out, and it is corrected. I realized what I did this morning. I put all of that info into Word to have it laid out the way that I wanted it. And when I added your movie, I copy and pasted Destiny's info just so I knew how I wanted it typed out (because I was going to copy and paste it all to here then). Then I filed it in with your info instead, and I remembered typing the name Taylor Hackford, but I must not have saved it. So thanks for letting me know about that mistake. And I double checked all of the others. They should all be correct now. :)
School of Rock and Amadeus are great, the latter would've been one i might have picked. Really don't like Get Him To The Greek. Not seen any of the others, going to try and see Once and maybe something else.
Citizen Rules
03-02-17, 03:14 PM
I like the second batch even better than the first ones. My thoughts
La Bamba (Luis Valdez, 1987)
Nominated by Citizen Rules
I'm not sure how I came to think of this movie as my nom, sometimes my mind works in mysterious ways:p
School of Rock (Richard Linklater, 2003)
Nominated by Clazor
Good, I wanted to watch more of Linklater's films. I haven't seen many, but now I'll have seen another.
Amadeus (Milos Forman, 1984)
Nominated by edarsenal
I loved this when it first came out. I haven't seen it since 1985, a long time ago! I wonder if this will still work for me?
The Commitments (Alan Parker, 1991)
Nominated by SilentVamp
I remember when this came out and I wanted to see it, as the blonde girl in the band was totally cute. You know which one I mean...the cute one:)
Get Him to the Greek (Nicholas Stoller, 2010)
Nominated by ShopkeeperTriumph
I have no idea on this one, never heard of it, I guess I'll find out:p
Coal Miner’s Daughter (Michael Apted, 1980)
Nominated by Destiny
Glad this was nominated, I'm not sure if I've seen it or not, but have been thinking about watching it every since I seen the biopic on Hank Williams I Saw the Light (2015) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1490785/)
The Jazz Singer (Richard Fleischer, 1980)
Nominated by gbgoodies
I've seen this one recently and liked it. I liked the original The Jazz Singer (1927) too.
Again, a very interesting set of nominations. I am ashamed to admit I've never seen Amadeus, despite the fact that I bought it 3 frickin' years ago. It's been sitting on a shelf for all this time, feeling neglected. Until now. Ed, thank you very much for giving me the the kick in the butt I needed to actually see this movie.
As for the rest, never seen. I was dimly aware that Get him to the Greek existed, but beyond that I know prescious little. Of the 14 noms here, I've never seen 11. It's time to make up for that. :cool:
Get Him To The Greek is a spinoff of another comedy Forgetting Sarah Marshall. You don't have to have seen FSM though. It's Russell Brand's character in FSM's film, he was only the other man: a punchline basically in Forgetting Sarah Marshall and i don't think there's much overlap between the two.
SilentVamp
03-02-17, 07:24 PM
The Commitments (Alan Parker, 1991)
Nominated by SilentVamp
I remember when this came out and I wanted to see it, as the blonde girl in the band was totally cute. You know which one I mean...the cute one:)
:rolleyes:
I just had a feeling someone would say something about her. :p
edarsenal
03-02-17, 07:58 PM
Clazor to know that I was kicking a younger man's butt would put a big ole smile on my father's ghost's face. lol
Getting the opportunity to see flicks I normally wouldn't or wanted to and never did is a great lil bonus to these HoFs and Tournaments.
La Bamba (Luis Valdez, 1987)
Nominated by Citizen Rules With the Buddy Holly Story, all we need is a lil documentary on The Big Bopper and we pretty much got this lil airplane ride covered. ;) Have not seen this since it first came out but do remember it being quite good. So, YAY, revisit!
School of Rock (Richard Linklater, 2003)
Nominated by Clazor Yeah, so someone IS a bit of a Jack Black fan. lol Saw this when it came out and will be doing a revisit now.
Amadeus (Milos Forman, 1984)
Nominated by edarsenal Quick lil side note; for those with Netflix this is the extended version running 3 hr. There are theatrical versions of only 2 hr 40 min to be found. So, depending on your (non)enjoyment, choose to your liking.
The Commitments (Alan Parker, 1991)
Nominated by SilentVamp Actually, FINALLY got to see this about a year ago. Pretty good flick. Look forward to the rewatch.
Get Him to the Greek (Nicholas Stoller, 2010)
Nominated by ShopkeeperTriumph Another I previously saw and will again.
Coal Miner’s Daughter (Michael Apted, 1980)
Nominated by Destiny Haven't seen this since it first came out - looking forward to the revisit
The Jazz Singer (Richard Fleischer, 1980)
Nominated by gbgoodies Remembering loving this one and its been WAY too long since I saw it last.
So, nothing new just a string of great revisits -SWEET
Great Noms everyone!!!
gbgoodies
03-03-17, 02:45 AM
It's rather straightforward. Pink [the main character] is Roger Waters, Pink Floyd's bass player.
The movie is pretty much his own Ego masturbation. It's all about him.
His sorrow for his dad's death [his dad was a soldier]
His smothering relationship with his mom
His school days
His failed marriage
His contempt for stardom
And his [awful] relationship with the audience
It's a classic case of "me me me me me"
Thanks. I'll try to remember this info when I watch the movie. Maybe it will help. :shrug:
In the past, I've been told that the movie only makes sense if you're high when you watch it, but I don't take drugs, so that's never going to happen.
gbgoodies
03-03-17, 02:57 AM
The Jazz Singer (Richard Fleischer, 1980)
Nominated by gbgoodies
I've seen this one recently and liked it. I liked the original The Jazz Singer (1927) too.
The Jazz Singer (Richard Fleischer, 1980)
Nominated by gbgoodies Remembering loving this one and its been WAY too long since I saw it last.
I never hear anyone talk about The Jazz Singer, so I thought this was going to be another movie that everyone would say that they hadn't seen before. I'm glad to see that the few people who have seen it liked it. I hope you like it on a rewatch too. :)
La Bamba - I saw this movie on TV a few times, usually with commercials. It will be nice to watch the uncut and uninterrupted version for a change.
School of Rock - I've heard of this movie, but I haven't seen it.
Amadeus - This has been on my watchlist for years, but I still haven't seen it. It's about time I finally watch it.
The Commitments - I've never heard of this movie, and I know nothing about it.
Get Him to the Greek - I've never heard of this movie, and I know nothing about it.
Coal Miner’s Daughter - This is another movie that I haven't seen in what feels like forever. I know I'll love the music. I hope I love the movie just as much.
The Jazz Singer - This is my nom, so of course I love it. This movie made me fall in love with Neil Diamond's music. He's been a favorite singer of mine ever since I saw this movie in the theater back in 1980.
Citizen Rules
03-03-17, 03:10 AM
I think we talked about The Jazz Singer before. I think you told me about it and that's why I watched it. I expect I will like it on a rewatch, it told a heart felt story that I could relate to.
gbgoodies
03-03-17, 03:44 AM
I think we talked about The Jazz Singer before. I think you told me about it and that's why I watched it. I expect I will like it on a rewatch, it told a heart felt story that I could relate to.
I hope people like it. Neil Diamond isn't a very good actor, but he's an amazing singer, and this is a musical HoF, so hopefully that will be enough for everyone.
A heads-up for you people who don't own The Buddy Holly Story, it seems to exist in its entirity on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t95AxJl4x4A&list=WL&t=150s&index=162
gbgoodies
03-03-17, 04:25 AM
A heads-up for you people who don't own The Buddy Holly Story, it seems to exist in its entirity on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t95AxJl4x4A&list=WL&t=150s&index=162
Thanks, but I got the message "This video contains content from Sony Pictures Movies & Shows, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. Sorry about that.", so it seems to be blocked in the U.S. :(
Little Devil
03-03-17, 07:09 AM
Thanks. I'll try to remember this info when I watch the movie. Maybe it will help. :shrug:
In the past, I've been told that the movie only makes sense if you're high when you watch it, but I don't take drugs, so that's never going to happen.
I was going to see the Wall.... but then I got high
SilentVamp
03-03-17, 06:22 PM
La Bamba (Luis Valdez, 1987)
Nominated by Citizen Rules With the Buddy Holly Story, all we need is a lil documentary on The Big Bopper and we pretty much got this lil airplane ride covered. ;)
That thought crossed my mind about The Big Bopper, too. Years ago I'd heard that they were going to make a movie about him, also, but I don't know whatever happened to that idea. I assume it never happened because I never heard about it again. Unless someone else knows that it actually was filmed? It would be an interesting addition to watch with the other two films.
But speaking of these guys, I picked The Buddy Holly Story up from the library today. I will be watching that within the next few days and I can officially get this HoF started.
I still can't believe that this will be my first time ever seeing that film. If anyone remembers what I'd written in the second Getting To Know You Song Tournament, then you should, too, be surprised that this is going to be my first viewing of The Buddy Holly Story.
edarsenal
03-03-17, 07:08 PM
I think we talked about The Jazz Singer before. I think you told me about it and that's why I watched it. I expect I will like it on a rewatch, it told a heart felt story that I could relate to.
I was a so-so fan of Neil Diamond and then a SERIOUS fan of Neil Diamond songs after seeing this when it came out.
This is one of countless rewatches I'm pretty excited about watching.
And THANKS Clazor for the link for Buddy Holly on youtube. VERY nice!
SilentVamp I remember there being talk about a Big Bopper movie and talk only. That would be a rather cool movie to see. Really like his music; especially "Lil Red Riding Hood".
SilentVamp
03-03-17, 07:34 PM
edarsenal I really am surprised that they haven't come up with a film by now. I would like to think there is enough interest out there to tell his story, too. I've always quite liked Pink Petticoats (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lSRYTqkIh_I).
edarsenal
03-03-17, 08:06 PM
have NOT Petticoats in ages!! Sweet!
And I agree, that would make for a very good storytelling
Nestorio_Miklos
03-04-17, 03:56 PM
I was so tempted to join this one too but am quite busy lately. Great nominations! I would most probably nominate Bird. I love jazz.
Citizen Rules
03-04-17, 04:15 PM
I was so tempted to join this one too but am quite busy lately. Great nominations! I would most probably nominate Bird. I love jazz. Bird...would have been a fine nom. I've never seen it but really want to.
Nestorio_Miklos
03-04-17, 04:32 PM
Bird...would have been a fine nom. I've never seen it but really want to.
I wonder if there are some good movies about John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk etc. I saw movies about Ray Charles and James Brown. I liked them.
SilentVamp
03-04-17, 06:00 PM
I was so tempted to join this one too but am quite busy lately. Great nominations! I would most probably nominate Bird. I love jazz.
Well, if this HoF ends up popular enough, maybe there can be another one sometime in the future. So you should hold on to that nomination and you could join then. And I would make sure you were the one that got to have it, too. :)
Truth be told, Bird was another one that I forgot. :facepalm:
I wonder if there are some good movies about John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk etc. I saw movies about Ray Charles and James Brown. I liked them.
And I forgot about Get On Up. :tsk: This is why there needs to be another Musical Artist HoF! Just because there are so many more movies out there with this theme that need to be seen!
There is a Miles Davis film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssfTNCTVT5U
I don't know about a Coltrane film, but I think they were going to make a documentary about him. And there is the Thelonius Monk documentary Straight, No Chaser.
edarsenal
03-04-17, 06:33 PM
following that line of music, I was considering The Lady Sings The Blues about Billie Holliday.
Citizen Rules
03-04-17, 06:46 PM
Well, if this HoF ends up popular enough, maybe there can be another one sometime in the future....
:up:
following that line of music, I was considering The Lady Sings The Blues about Billie Holliday.Another interesting one that I haven't seen.
SilentVamp
03-04-17, 07:49 PM
Does anyone need help obtaining The Idolmaker? I found it, but it isn't an ideal way to watch it, but I don't care. I just want to make sure I get a chance to see it. PM me if you are interested in it.
I could get it from the library but only on VHS (all these HoF's do is make me realize that I REALLY NEED to get a new VCR!!).
edarsenal
03-04-17, 07:50 PM
:up:
Another interesting one that I haven't seen.
It was somewhere in the mid 90's when I was seriously getting into Billie Holliday.
Such a sad story. Amazing, soulful singer.
gbgoodies
03-05-17, 01:53 AM
Does anyone need help obtaining The Idolmaker? I found it, but it isn't an ideal way to watch it, but I don't care. I just want to make sure I get a chance to see it. PM me if you are interested in it.
I could get it from the library but only on VHS (all these HoF's do is make me realize that I REALLY NEED to get a new VCR!!).
I'm sorry about the problem finding The Idolmaker. It never occurred to me that it might be hard to find. I have it on DVD, and I had it on VHS before that, so I didn't even think to go looking for a streaming version of it because I just thought it was easily accessible.
Would it be easier for everyone if I just change my nom? I can change it to the movie Thunder Alley (1985), which might not be available on DVD, but it's on YouTube. Do either of these videos work outside of the U.S.? The quality isn't great because they're from old VHS rips, but at least the movie is easy to find. (If that's still a problem, I can pick a different movie, but we're getting closer to it being a country music movie. :shrug:)
Thunder Alley (1985) - Version 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEtQZF8SoG4
Thunder Alley (1985) - Version 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IFFEyBWyro
Citizen Rules
03-05-17, 02:29 AM
I'm sorry about the problem finding The Idolmaker.
I have a high quality link for The Idolmaker it worked great for me. I will PM it to Vamp and anyone else who needs it.
gbgoodies
03-05-17, 02:33 AM
I have a high quality link for The Idolmaker it worked great for me. I will PM it to Vamp and anyone else who needs it.
Thanks! That's great. :up:
My offer to change my nom still stands if anyone has a problem finding it, but if the link works, and everyone can use it, that would be awesome. :)
I was so tempted to join this one too but am quite busy lately. Great nominations! I would most probably nominate Bird. I love jazz.
Nice. Not enough jazz fans here. At one point, I tried seeing if there was interest in a jazz song tournament, and of the few replies there were they consisted of people telling me they don't like jazz and weren't interested.
Shame on you, MoFo. :mad:
By the way, that Miles Ahead movie is no good. Unfortunately.
Nestorio_Miklos
03-05-17, 02:47 AM
Nice. Not enough jazz fans here. At one point, I tried seeing if there was interest in a jazz song tournament, and of the few replies there were they consisted of people telling me they don't like jazz and weren't interested.
Shame on you, MoFo. :mad:
By the way, that Miles Ahead movie is no good. Unfortunately.
Just bought 1976 re-release, near mint, McCoy Tyner, Nights of Ballads & Blues :):):)👍👍👍
ShopkeeperTriumph
03-05-17, 08:33 AM
I wonder if there are some good movies about John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk etc. I saw movies about Ray Charles and James Brown. I liked them.
Yeah, as Vamp said, Miles Ahead. Half of it is great. The more standard biopic fare that's in it? Not so much. But, I'd say it's worth checking out for the good stuff alone.
Nestorio_Miklos
03-05-17, 09:20 AM
Yeah, as Vamp said, Miles Ahead. Half of it is great. The more standard biopic fare that's in it? Not so much. But, I'd say it's worth checking out for the good stuff alone.
Exactly like you said. I went to watch it right away this morning. There is some good stuff in it but writers mostly picked the worst of him and made him look like a complete evil. They shouldn't do that. What kind of message that gives you? :(
SilentVamp
03-05-17, 04:12 PM
Would it be easier for everyone if I just change my nom? I can change it to the movie Thunder Alley (1985)
I think that link will be fine that CR has for The Idolmaker. So I think it is safe to say we can stick with that one for now.
But it is still good to know there is a back-up just in case. :)
CosmicRunaway
03-05-17, 06:14 PM
Sadly, no...or maybe. I don't remember exactly, but if it's in there it should be at the very end, maybe even playing during the end credits.
I just watched Pick of Destiny. That song isn't in it, though the song they play at the end is probably the actual greatest song in the world referenced in "Tribute".
I liked the song that played during the credits, so I left it running and saw that there's an extra scene at the very end. So if anyone is interested, there is something more after the credits.
gbgoodies
03-09-17, 02:52 AM
Coal Miner’s Daughter
Aside from some timeline problems, (mostly relating to the Patsy Cline storyline), this is a great movie. The music was great, and Sissy Spacek did a terrific job as Loretta Lynn. She even did her own singing, and even though she doesn't look enough like Loretta Lynn, she was very convincing in the role.
I like Tommy Lee Jones, and he was great as her husband, but he's a somewhat unlikable character at times, but that seems to be the way her husband was in real life too. I love the way her husband answered the phone, "It's 1:00 in the morning. What the hell do you want?". :lol: It reminded me of the way my father used to answer the phone during prime time TV hours. He would pick up the ringing phone, say "Don't you own a television set?", and immediately hang up the phone without even finding out who called. :facepalm:
But back to the movie, it felt like they glossed over some of the events of her life, and didn't make the time jumps clear as to how long they were, but overall, this was a very well done movie.
gbgoodies
03-09-17, 03:18 AM
Walk the Line
This was another great movie with my kind of music. Johnny Cash was one of the greatest country music singers ever, and this movie shows us how he got his start, and eventually became a superstar.
Overall Joaquin Phoenix did a great job as Johnny Cash, but there were a few times when it felt glaringly obvious that he wasn't Johnny Cash, and that momentarily took me out of the movie, but then within a few minutes, he was back on track, and I was back in the movie again. On the other hand, Reese Witherspoon was terrific as June Carter.
I thought they did a good job of casting talented people in the roles of Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis, and it was a nice touch that they cast Shooter Jennings in the role of his father, Waylon Jennings.
gbgoodies
03-09-17, 03:44 AM
The Buddy Holly Story
I'm not as familiar with Buddy Holly as I am with Loretta Lynn and Johnny Cash, so I don't know how close this was to reality, but it's a very interesting movie.
Gary Busey was great as Buddy Holly, and he even did his own singing. I didn't really understand why everyone seemed to think that Holly was black, and then when they met him, they were surprised to see that he was a white guy. I don't know if it was his voice or the type of music he sang, but that part didn't make much sense to me.
I wish they would have focused a little bit more on the romance part of his life. It seemed like he met the girl, went out with her once, and then the next thing they said was that they were married. I don't know if it happened that way in real life, but it just seemed like they skipped over the whole romance.
I like that they focused enough on his career to show that he not only sang, but he also wrote and produced his own music. I wish they would have shown a little bit more about the plane crash and the affect it had on his love ones, because there are some interesting facts about the aftermath of his death. The movie only showed it as a footnote, but his death and the affect it had on his wife and mother are the reasons why victims' names are no longer released until after their family has been notified.
Another interesting bit of trivia is that after the original Crickets left Holly's band, one of his new bandmates was Waylon Jennings. Jennings was supposed to be on the plane that crashed, but he gave up his seat to The Big Bopper, who was sick with the flu at the time. The last conversation they had was when Holly jokingly told Jennings, "Well, I hope your ol' bus freezes up!", and Jennings jokingly replied, "Well, I hope your ol' plane crashes!". That one line haunted Jennings for the rest of his life.
gbgoodies
03-09-17, 04:05 AM
La Bamba
The story of Ritchie Valens is an interesting one, not only because he was a great singer, but because he had a fear of flying all his life, and he would eventually die in a plane crash, after what he said was "the only coin toss he ever won".
The biggest problem in this movie is Lou Diamond Phillips as Valens. His acting is very good, and he's convincing as Valens, but his lip-synching is terrible. It doesn't look like he's singing, because he isn't. (His voice was dubbed by David Hidalgo of the band Los Lobos.) It would have been better if they had avoided closeups of Lou Diamond Phillips "singing".
Again, I don't know much about Valens in real life, so I don't know how close this story is to reality, but it's an interesting story of his rise to fame. And again, like in the Buddy Holly movie, they don't go into any details about the plane crash, other than to show that Valens won the coin toss. (Sadly, the guy who "lost" the coin toss, Tommy Allsup, (who was one of Buddy Holly's new band members after the original Crickets left), died earlier this year.)
But at least this movie has a better ending because it takes it a step further, and shows how his death affected the people he left behind.
Citizen Rules
03-09-17, 01:00 PM
Wow! you're on a roll GBG:p
SilentVamp
03-09-17, 03:39 PM
Overall Joaquin Phoenix did a great job as Johnny Cash, but there were a few times when it felt glaringly obvious that he wasn't Johnny Cash, and that momentarily took me out of the movie, but then within a few minutes, he was back on track, and I was back in the movie again. On the other hand, Reese Witherspoon was terrific as June Carter.
That's interesting because I tend to feel the complete opposite with those two in this film. Meaning, I thought Joaquin was the better of the two. I won't go too much into that opinion, though, until I get to my review.
I wish they would have focused a little bit more on the romance part of his life. It seemed like he met the girl, went out with her once, and then the next thing they said was that they were married. I don't know if it happened that way in real life, but it just seemed like they skipped over the whole romance.
I believe Buddy Holly's wife was something of a consultant with the film. Who knows? Maybe she agreed to be that if they didn't go too much into his personal life with her.
I wish they would have shown a little bit more about the plane crash and the affect it had on his love ones, because there are some interesting facts about the aftermath of his death.
The crash was so soon and so fast after they took off that there really isn't too much to say about the crash itself. And, to be honest, I don't think you want to know that much about it because it was pretty bad. But I see what you are saying in regards to how the family was affected by it. I am surprised there wasn't something like that in there. But, again, with his wife being some sort of consultant, maybe she didn't want that part in there.
The biggest problem in this movie is Lou Diamond Phillips as Valens. His acting is very good, and he's convincing as Valens, but his lip-synching is terrible. It doesn't look like he's singing, because he isn't. (His voice was dubbed by David Hidalgo of the band Los Lobos.) It would have been better if they had avoided closeups of Lou Diamond Phillips "singing".
I think it is because of the way he moves his mouth when he is singing. I don't know why, but he just doesn't seem to relax it (I guess I could describe it that way) like he should as if he is just speaking. I think that has a lot to do with it. I am saying this because I always noticed the funny way he moves his mouth when it is a singing scene.
OK. I've now listed gbgoodies' reviews on the first page. (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1655693#post1655693) So once this HoF really gets going and some of the other reviews might get lost in the mix, just refer back to that page.
edarsenal
03-09-17, 10:02 PM
excellent little run, gbg!!
I remember having a few of those moments when I first saw Walk the Line with Phoenix and since I can only remember Carter from childhood in various variety show appearances with Cash on shows like Hee Haw I cannot truly say if that happened with Reese or not. Though a lot of times I see Reese as Reese in the movies I watch her.
Been WAAY to long ago to remark on Buddy Holly or Valens but they, like the others were great reads.
I do know that for the families of both of them, they did not want to revisit that crash whatsoever and following their wishes they kept that aspect as minimal as possible.
I remember seeing an interview with Phillips remarking how he had spent a lot of time with Valens' family and when it came to that final shot, things got VERY emotional for all of them.
Coal Miner's Daughter is one I haven't seen and kinda curious to see when I do.
I did rent Once and School of Rock from my library so I'll be checking them out within the week, hopefully.
edarsenal
03-09-17, 10:58 PM
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Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny
Should you have any concerns about what kind of movie this will be, all will be answered before the opening credits even begin.
It did for me.
Let's put it this way:
I'm a guy. Therefore I do enjoy a good fart joke. I love swearing and enjoy movies that use it with an over abundance. In my youth I loved Heavy Metal music and during that time Ronnie James Dio WAS my spiritual guide. Bongs are great and tripping IS a very awesome thing from those daze.
Now, I really don't like Jack Black. On rare occasions like Bernie and Kung Fu Panda I do enjoy him. But when he's playing, well, himself. . . .
Perhaps that was the fly in the ointment for me from the get-go, no matter how much I tried to enjoy this, I could not.
I won't elaborate, because that would be just rude and I truly have enjoyed a number of things Clazor has nominated - so, instead, I will mention that I thought it was VERY cool to see Meatloaf play Jack's religious dad. It was a great lil 180 degree turn from him playing roles like Eddie in Rocky Horror to this and his confrontation with a young Black showed all kinds of promise.
I also enjoyed Gass' character as well. Didn't love him, but I honestly did enjoy him. Chuckled a few times with him.
I am truly sorry, Clazor. I know not every thing is for every one, but still.
Citizen Rules
03-09-17, 11:05 PM
Oh oh! I was thinking of watching that one too.:cool:
edarsenal
03-10-17, 12:52 AM
it does have a lot going for it. I just have a problem with Jack Black. You definitely should give it a try.
gbgoodies
03-10-17, 01:16 AM
Wow! you're on a roll GBG:p
Yeah, I tried to get some of the bios of singers I'm familiar with out of the way first. I thought it was interesting to see how they each got their start in the music business.
I watched another movie this afternoon, but I'm going to wait to post anything about it because I didn't like it, so I'd rather a few other people give it good reviews first, so I don't give anyone a bad first impression of the movie.
gbgoodies
03-10-17, 01:26 AM
I believe Buddy Holly's wife was something of a consultant with the film. Who knows? Maybe she agreed to be that if they didn't go too much into his personal life with her.
The crash was so soon and so fast after they took off that there really isn't too much to say about the crash itself. And, to be honest, I don't think you want to know that much about it because it was pretty bad. But I see what you are saying in regards to how the family was affected by it. I am surprised there wasn't something like that in there. But, again, with his wife being some sort of consultant, maybe she didn't want that part in there.
I don't really think they should have shown the actual crash, or speculated about anything that might have happened on the plane, but maybe a little bit more about how those specific people ended up on the plane, rather than Buddy Holly and the Crickets, (as that's who Holly chartered the plane for), or even a little bit about who the people who didn't get on the plane, and how it affected them. And a bit about the people and the legacy that the people who died left behind would have been interesting. There's a whole untold story about before and after the plane crash, and it just felt like that was missing.
But if the wives were consultants, that's probably why that stuff was left out of the movies.
Citizen Rules
03-10-17, 03:24 AM
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The Idolmaker
This was a fun, easy watch. I can't say I loved it, but it had it's moments and kept me interested. At times it felt like a made for TV movie, but that's not a bad thing as it was trying to be entertaining and it was. My favorite part was with Marcia (Maureen McCormick) woohoo!...and the house band at the small club. I also liked the story of the first performer Tommy Dee. The live TV show on Saturday night Bandstand was also fun.
Geez, the promoter was sure a jerk, but the actor did a really excellent job at being a jerk. Everybody sang pretty good, especially his second star Peter Gallagher. It was funny that the songs from the late 50s, early 60s all sounded like the early 80s. But that's not a big deal.
Tovah Feldshuh who played Brenda Roberts the magazine lady, really reminded me of Captain Janeway from Star Trek Voyager. I swear they could be sisters.
GBG I have to ask what is it that you like about this movie? Is it the songs? the performers;) or?
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gbgoodies
03-10-17, 03:39 AM
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The Idolmaker
This was a fun, easy watch. I can't say I loved it, but it had it's moments and kept me interested. My favorite part was with Marcia (Maureen McCormick)...and the house band at the small club. I also liked the story of the first performer Tommy Dee. The live TV show on Saturday night Bandstand was fun. It times it felt like a made for TV movie, but that's not a bad thing as it was trying to be entertaining and it was. Geez, the promoter was sure a jerk. Everybody sang pretty good, especially his second star Peter Gallagher. It was funny that the songs from the late 50s, early 60s all sounded like the early 80s. But that's not a big deal.
GBG I have to ask what is it that you like about this movie? Is it the beefcake? The songs? Or?
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I like the story and the songs. It's definitely not the "beefcake" because neither guy is really my type of guy. The first guy, (Tommy Dee) seems pretty obnoxious at times, and that's just a turn off for me, and the second guy, (Caesare) just isn't very attractive to me.
I like the story of how the promoter found two young guys and knew how to groom them properly to make them superstars. He knew what they should look like, how they should sound, and even how they should dance. I like watching him work with them to get everything perfect for their performances. I like the tension between him and the singers when he knows what's right, but they think they know better, and they try to break away from his management.
And I like the songs by both singers. I just don't really care much for the song that the promoter sings at the end.
Citizen Rules
03-10-17, 03:42 AM
I like the story and the songs. It's definitely not the "beefcake" because neither guy is really my type of guy. The first guy, (Tommy Dee) seems pretty obnoxious at times, and that's just a turn off for me, and the second guy, (Caesare) just isn't very attractive to me.
I like the story of how the promoter found two young guys and knew how to groom them properly to make them superstars. He knew what they should look like, how they should sound, and even how they should dance. I like watching him work with them to get everything perfect for their performances. I like the tension between him and the singers when he knows what's right, but they think they know better, and they try to break away from his management.
And I like the songs by both singers. I just don't really care much for the song that the promoter sings at the end. You quoted me as I was editing. I do that a lot, post and edit and redit...I added this
Tovah Feldshuh who played Brenda Roberts the magazine lady, really reminded me of Captain Janeway from Star Trek Voyager. I swear they could be sisters. And I liked her too. I thought all the actors were pretty good.
gbgoodies
03-10-17, 03:51 AM
You quoted me as I was editing. I do that a lot, post and edit and redit...I added this
Tovah Feldshuh who played Brenda Roberts the magazine lady, really reminded me of Captain Janeway from Star Trek Voyager. I swear they could be sisters.
And I liked her too. I thought all the actors were pretty good.
Yeah, I noticed a bit of a resemblance to Captain Janeway too, but I think part of it is her voice and her screen presence, more than just her looks.
I liked Tovah Feldshuh in the TV show "Law & Order" too, but she wasn't in a lot of episodes.
SilentVamp
03-10-17, 05:31 PM
My favorite part was with Marcia (Maureen McCormick) woohoo!
I watched this movie yesterday and I wondered who would be the first person to point out the fact that she was in the film. :)
It was funny that the songs from the late 50s, early 60s all sounded like the early 80s.
I thought the same thing, actually. I really liked the music, but it was funny that they didn't put more of an effort into making it sound more authentic to the times.
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Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny
Should you have any concerns about what kind of movie this will be, all will be answered before the opening credits even begin.
It did for me.
Let's put it this way:
I'm a guy. Therefore I do enjoy a good fart joke. I love swearing and enjoy movies that use it with an over abundance. In my youth I loved Heavy Metal music and during that time Ronnie James Dio WAS my spiritual guide. Bongs are great and tripping IS a very awesome thing from those daze.
Now, I really don't like Jack Black. On rare occasions like Bernie and Kung Fu Panda I do enjoy him. But when he's playing, well, himself. . . .
Perhaps that was the fly in the ointment for me from the get-go, no matter how much I tried to enjoy this, I could not.
I won't elaborate, because that would be just rude and I truly have enjoyed a number of things Clazor has nominated - so, instead, I will mention that I thought it was VERY cool to see Meatloaf play Jack's religious dad. It was a great lil 180 degree turn from him playing roles like Eddie in Rocky Horror to this and his confrontation with a young Black showed all kinds of promise.
I also enjoyed Gass' character as well. Didn't love him, but I honestly did enjoy him. Chuckled a few times with him.
I am truly sorry, Clazor. I know not every thing is for every one, but still.
Am I a bad person for nominating this and half expecting this to be the general consensus? And laughing while I do it?:p
To be serious for a moment, though. I do think this is a good movie with some really good music. But I also realized that the level of enjoyment you get out of it stands in direct proportion to how much Jack Black you can stand at his fullest Jack Blackness. I didn't nominate it just to be a douch to those of you who can't stand the man. Just thought I'd point that out.
To Ed, there's no worries. Black can be a bit much and here I believe he's as much as he ever is. I had forgotten about the intro, to be honest, and I can see how it sets the tone. It might very well make many people stop it there and never return to it. That you pushed on means alot and all credit to you. That goes for all of you watching this during the HoF.
Hopefully you'll find School of Rock a more enjoyable watch, as Black's a bit more restrained in that and isn't let of the chain quite as much.
edarsenal
03-10-17, 07:25 PM
Am I a bad person for nominating this and half expecting this to be the general consensus? And laughing while I do it?:p
Yes, yes you are.
;):D
To be serious for a moment, though. I do think this is a good movie with some really good music. But I also realized that the level of enjoyment you get out of it stands in direct proportion to how much Jack Black you can stand at his fullest Jack Blackness. I didn't nominate it just to be a douch to those of you who can't stand the man. Just thought I'd point that out.
To Ed, there's no worries. Black can be a bit much and here I believe he's as much as he ever is. I had forgotten about the intro, to be honest, and I can see how it sets the tone. It might very well make many people stop it there and never return to it. That you pushed on means alot and all credit to you. That goes for all of you watching this during the HoF.
Hopefully you'll find School of Rock a more enjoyable watch, as Black's a bit more restrained in that and isn't let of the chain quite as much.
I actually have School of Rock from my library and it is a re-watch from when it came out and yes, "restrained' is a great word and I did like it back then, so I'm pretty sure I will again.
And thanks, Clazor. I still feel pretty bad and really don't like posting a bad review, especially for my very first one AND for this nom's first as well.
CosmicRunaway
03-10-17, 08:03 PM
To be serious for a moment, though. I do think this is a good movie with some really good music.
I actually liked every song in Pick of Destiny, which is very unusual for me.
I don't even like all the songs in the few traditional musicals that I do enjoy (for example, I actively dislike all the songs before the kids get to the factory in Willy Wonka, and have to fast forward through the grandpa's song because I honestly can't stand to hear it). Of course it helps that I was already familiar with Tenacious D before hand, and that they make music that does appeal to me.
The animated farting intro did put me off at first, but I found the rest of the movie to be thoroughly enjoyable, and I didn't think that it sunk to that level again (until the end credits scene that is, which I found amusing anyway though). While I was a little disappointed that my favourite Tenacious D song wasn't in it ("Tribute", if that wasn't obvious by now haha), I rather like "Master Exploder" as well, which was in the film. :cool:
Citizen Rules
03-10-17, 10:03 PM
Yeah, I noticed a bit of a resemblance to Captain Janeway too, but I think part of it is her voice and her screen presence, more than just her looks. Yup, her facial expressions, her voice and her physical look really reminded me of Janeway. I'm glad I didn't image that:p
I watched this movie yesterday and I wondered who would be the first person to point out the fact that she was in the film. :)
I thought the same thing, actually. I really liked the music, but it was funny that they didn't put more of an effort into making it sound more authentic to the times.
I was surprised to see Olympia Dukakis too. Glad to hear I wasn't image the 80s sounding, 50s music.
SilentVamp
03-10-17, 11:47 PM
So far I've gotten The Idolmaker, The Wall and Once watched. And I will most likely be making it a marathon tomorrow of The Buddy Holly Story, Tenacious D and Eddie and the Cruisers. And Sunday will be my re-watch of Walk the Line. After this weekend I will have the first set of nominations watched and I will be on track with what I stated my game plan was going to be for these two HoF's.
I will just need to stop procrastinating and get my reviews up sooner rather than later this time around!
You guys have me very curious about the Tenacious D movie now. I had an idea of what it was going to be like, anyway, but I wasn't 100% sure. But I will find out about it soon enough tomorrow. :)
edarsenal
03-10-17, 11:54 PM
I actually liked every song in Pick of Destiny, which is very unusual for me.
I don't even like all the songs in the few traditional musicals that I do enjoy (for example, I actively dislike all the songs before the kids get to the factory in Willy Wonka, and have to fast forward through the grandpa's song because I honestly can't stand to hear it). Of course it helps that I was already familiar with Tenacious D before hand, and that they make music that does appeal to me.
The animated farting intro did put me off at first, but I found the rest of the movie to be thoroughly enjoyable, and I didn't think that it sunk to that level again (until the end credits scene that is, which I found amusing anyway though). While I was a little disappointed that my favourite Tenacious D song wasn't in it ("Tribute", if that wasn't obvious by now haha), I rather like "Master Exploder" as well, which was in the film. :cool:
I used to do the same when I was I younger. I'd cut STRAIGHT to Gene Wilder stepping out from the factory and on occasion would see the rest and still skip "grandpa song" and when the mother sang about Charlie. lol
and SilentVamp you should DEFINITELY go in with an open mind when you watch Tenacious.
And I look forward to your reviews - once you stop procrastinating, of course ;)
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 12:03 AM
I used to do the same when I was I younger. I'd cut STRAIGHT to Gene Wilder stepping out from the factory and on occasion would see the rest and still skip "grandpa song" and when the mother sang about Charlie. lol
I always hated "Cheer Up, Charlie". The song was kind of dull to me (although I always think that even the best of musicals has at least one song that I absolutely do not like at all). The older I've gotten the more tolerable it is to me. But I always kind of liked "I've Got a Golden Ticket". And, of course, "Candy Man" is a song that is pre-Gene Wilder in that movie. And CosmicRunaway, please don't tell me you don't like that one! :)
SilentVamp you should DEFINITELY go in with an open mind when you watch Tenacious.
And I look forward to your reviews - once you stop procrastinating, of course ;)
Oh, that almost sounds like a warning. :D
I am not really lazy, but when it comes to reviews, forget it! I watched "The Young Girls of Rochefort" when it was on that night. I think that was a week ago and I still haven't gotten around to writing one word about it. I am a disgrace to these HoF's. :tsk:
edarsenal
03-11-17, 12:07 AM
SilentVamp yes, it IS a warning! Don't make me get the Harrison Ford Waving Finger out on you! :D
I actually caught about 10 mins of Rochefort when I was recording it on my DVR. Looked very promising and I d@mn near sat and watched it if I hadn't come in late on it.
For me, I GOTTA get the review out or its kinda gone. Though, on occasion a pause in a day or two does allow the words to flow a wee bit better.
Forgot about Candy Man. Though I would always picture Sammy Davis Jr singing it with a smile and a wink and with a lil mo' soul. lol
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 12:17 AM
Well, since I had such issues with my computer restarting on me, I lost a lot of what I was in the middle of writing on here many times. So I took to writing everything in Word instead. I tend to write my very basic thoughts on the movies first, forget it for awhile, and then go back and improve what I've already written. This time I haven't even written one word about anything I've seen, and that is bad.
But I have a game plan to getting my reviews written, too. I won't tell that plan, though, because if I do, I think I will end up looking like a liar as I may not follow through with it. :D But I do plan to get the first group of films' reviews posted sometime this week. No excuse to not get it done (other than the fact that I have my obligation to see Beauty and the Beast this week - nothing else can get in the way of that :) - and that will take some of my time up that I could've spent working on the reviews instead :)).
edarsenal
03-11-17, 12:32 AM
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The Commitments
Try a little tenderness. . . You gotta gotta GOTTA GOTTA ---
Holy Hannah! A lil Dublin Soul for this Detroit Boy. I remember when this originally came out and seeing the poster and that lil voice that always let's me know when I've come across something that's gonna make me smile, telling me that I should watch this. . . and finally. . . I got to.
I actually tried to see this over a month or two ago on a very bad online copy and gave up about 30 min in. SO VERY glad to come across an excellent copy so I could enjoy the music AND with subs so I can catch all the dialogue. These thick, cholesterol-clotted, American ears have such a hard time catching the subtleties of other people some times. lol
Everything really worked here. Not only the music: Soul, but having it played on the dirty streets of Dublin was ideal!
I won't go into the interactions of everyone in the band, which cracked me up quite a bit, until others have watched this, so this will be very short even though my enjoyment is VERY far-reaching!!
THANK YOU Silent for nominating this!!
edarsenal
03-11-17, 12:34 AM
Well, since I had such issues with my computer restarting on me, I lost a lot of what I was in the middle of writing on here many times. So I took to writing everything in Word instead. I tend to write my very basic thoughts on the movies first, forget it for awhile, and then go back and improve what I've already written. This time I haven't even written one word about anything I've seen, and that is bad.
But I have a game plan to getting my reviews written, too. I won't tell that plan, though, because if I do, I think I will end up looking like a liar as I may not follow through with it. :D But I do plan to get the first group of films' reviews posted sometime this week. No excuse to not get it done (other than the fact that I have my obligation to see Beauty and the Beast this week - nothing else can get in the way of that :) - and that will take some of my time up that I could've spent working on the reviews instead :)).
Any time I get a game plan the REAL plan of it is to CHANGE the game plan!! :rolleyes::D
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 02:13 PM
OK. Got some news this morning. :)
Gideon is interested in joining. And I said that he could. But I did tell him that the two nominations were optional, as it was for everyone else here.
Now before anyone goes into a panic and thinks "No! Not more movies!" :), I will extend the HoF deadline based on his nominations. And I will let you know what that is as soon as I receive them.
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 02:16 PM
THANK YOU Silent for nominating this!!
You are very welcome, sir!! :)
I am so glad that you enjoyed it so much. This is one that I haven't seen in years. But it is a movie that always put me in a good mood after I saw it.
edarsenal
03-11-17, 02:19 PM
sounds pretty frickin wonderful all the way around. I've loved his informative reviews in the live action and would love to see them here and if the price of that admission is watching two more movies - I'll happily ante up.
edarsenal
03-11-17, 02:29 PM
You are very welcome, sir!! :)
I am so glad that you enjoyed it so much. This is one that I haven't seen in years. But it is a movie that always put me in a good mood after I saw it.
such is the magic of Soul and of Motown music! It always rises the spirit
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 02:39 PM
edarsenal
Have you ever been to the Motown museum there?
I had plans to finally get to Detroit last year, but things didn't go my way at all with anything last year. That was on my To-Do list when I went.
Speaking of Motown, I went to see the Motown - The Musical back in 2015. Boy, was that a show to see! :D The audience was almost crazier than the one when I saw the tribute band for The Beatles called Rain. It was so funny because people reacted like they were really The Beatles, but it was much funnier with the Motown crowd. As soon as The Temptations came out, they cheered like they were really The Temptations. And when it was The Jackson 5, that was the best. The audience kind of lost it then. I just laughed and said "Oh my God! It is actually Michael Jackson as a little boy on stage". :D It was fun to see that show, if nothing else, because of the reaction of the audience.
And there was a pretty good reaction to the "appearance" of Rick James, too. :p
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 02:55 PM
OK. Gideon's films are:
Sweet Dreams (1985)
and
Ray (2004)
I still need to add the pictures for them, but I have am having issues today. :mad: I will do it the next time that I am on.
Anyway, Ray was one of the top contenders to be one of my nominations. So it will be good to re-watch it.
edarsenal
03-11-17, 03:05 PM
driven by COUNTLESS times and never actually stepped inside, sadly.
Know a lot of the little stories spoke with a few guys who played with, or knew a lot of the people when they were just starting out and the Revues they had at local theaters that are mostly gone. That sort of thing.
Did get to see the a few of the original musical band that backed EVERYONE. (The band stayed on stage as all the singers took turns coming out to do their shows) at an improved get together at a place called Bert's Warehouse in Eastern Market that is STILL there back in the late 90's.There is even a documentary about them and for the LIFE of me, I can't remember the name.
Citizen Rules
03-11-17, 03:57 PM
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Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny
Me and Vamp were talking about the effects of preconceived expectations on one's movie enjoyment. I believe if you go into a movie with super high expectations you run the risk of being disappointed. The flip side is what happened with me and Tenacious D...I read Ed's review and seen he wasn't a fan of the movie...so, I expected to hate this so much, that I thought I'd watch it last night as I was real tired and if I feel asleep, it was no big loss...:p
But, guess what? I actually liked this, at least I enjoyed much of the film and even laughed too. That's probably because I didn't expect much and was surprised at how fun this was!
I know everyone likes to hate on comedians like: Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller and Jack Black...sure these guys act like dumb ass jerks, but that takes acting skill. Ben Stiller was so into his role that I didn't even recognize him at first, he's intense, Marlon Brando himself would have appreciated his acting here.
I liked Jack Black:cool:, I could even relate to him and he's funny. He produced and wrote this film. I loved the concert simulator in KG's apartment, the beer bottle on the head, ha:p I really liked their first gig at some hole in the wall place. And damn Jack Black can sing! I liked all the songs, I can't remember their titles, but they were well done and presented in a hilarious quirky manner.
I could have done without the shock potty mouth comedy, I'm a big boy and I can handle some naughty words, but when a comedy has to constantly reach for crudeness in lieu of clever situational material, it's not a good thing.
But the one thing that bothered me, and I'm curious if it bothers anyone else, was the waitress having a black eye in the diner. I thought her black eye would be part of the story, but it seems to been included for the hell of it. Nothing funny about domestic abuse, so that was an odd thing to do. Oh and I wish KG would have put his wig back on after it fell off (which was funny) but he looked too boring without it.
So yeah, I had fun watching this:p
Gideon58
03-11-17, 05:25 PM
TENACIOUS D IN THE PICK OF DESTINY
Jack Black has provided more than his share of laughs on the big screen over the years, but those who know the actor as well as those who saw School of Rock know that this is one actor who wants to be a rock and roll musician. When not making movies, Jack and his partner Kyle Gass make music together as Tenacious D and Black was finally allowed to combine his passion with his bread and butter for a 2006 oddity called Tenacious D in The Pick of Detiny.
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Black and Gass are basically playing exaggerated versions of themselves here, a pair of Venice California rock and roll potheads who plan to participate in an open mic night and decide that the only way they can win the competition is to steal a legendary guitar pick that is under very tight security at the Rock and Roll History Museum.
Black and Gass had a really solid idea here but I just don't think they believed in their own concept enough to trust it to deliver what they wanted. I don't know if there's an actual term for it...for the sake of this review, I'm calling it "Rock and Roll Improv", the art of putting instant lyrics to famous rock progressions, but there is NOBODY in the business who does it better than Jack Black and as this movie began, I thought "OMG, this is going to be awesome, a Jack Black rock and roll opera!" Unfortunately, my dreams turned to dross when characters actually started speaking lines, because most of the actors cast in this film were pretty dreadful (including Gass). If Black had fully committed to this idea and made the story a rock opera, this film would have been amazing.
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Instead of amazing, what we ended up with is a sluggish musical comedy that provides laughs, especially for rock music fans, but these laughs do not sustain through the opening credits...and the film is only 90 minutes long! Sadly, it was a pretty long ninety minutes that found me glancing at my watch on occassion and even stifling the occasional yawn. Though the bit about how they came up with the name of the group was classic.
Jack Black is almost always worth watching, documented by School of Rock, but I think he might have had the ear of director Liam Lynch a little more in order to keep this thing moving at an entertaining pace. Gass is no actor but Black's respect for the guy is evident in every frame and every moment that these two spend in front of mics with guitars strapped to their chests was gold; unfortunately, there weren't enough of them. There are some clever cameos by Tim Robbins, Ben Stiller, Amy Poehler, and Fred Armisen, but it's Black and Gass' show and their idea was a good one, I just wish they had committed to it completely.
SilentVamp
03-11-17, 06:21 PM
driven by COUNTLESS times and never actually stepped inside, sadly.
I suppose that is because you are live around there. It always seems that people who live in a place where there is some sort of attraction like that, they are never the ones to actually have visited the place. :)
But, guess what? I actually liked this, at least I enjoyed much of the film and even laughed too. That's probably because I didn't expect much and was surprised at how fun this was!
This makes me a little less wary about watching this tonight.
By the way, I forgot to point out earlier that the deadline is now two weeks later. So it has been changed to Sunday, July 2nd.
edarsenal
03-11-17, 09:06 PM
I suppose that is because you are live around there. It always seems that people who live in a place where there is some sort of attraction like that, they are never the ones to actually have visited the place. :)[/B].
That ALWAYS seems the way. I have family who lived about 45 min from Niagara Falls and NEVER bothered to go there.
Great Reviews @CitizenRules Glad to went in with an open mind and enjoyed yourself
and Gideon58 for, as usual, giving us a little more behind the scenes info, thanks
edarsenal
03-12-17, 06:55 PM
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Sweet Dreams
Story of Country singer Patsy Cline played with fire by Jessica Lange. The movie centers around meeting her second husband, Charlie Dicks starring Ed Harris in the mid 50's through her rise and tragic death in an airplane in the early sixties.
My actual knowledge of Patsy Cline's personal history is very near non-existent so I cannot comment directly on what they got right, what they got wrong, but as far as the movie goes; d@mn good.
I am a fan of both Lange and Harris and both had chemistry and heated passion that quite easily brought you into their lives as well as the secondary characters were very well done. I definitely enjoyed Lange's strong-willed fiery portrayal of Cline. It was a wonderful peek behind the Country singer, who, for me, had such a haunting nuance to her songs which I do remember, as a kid, (and forgive the cliche), but they really plucked at my heartstrings so much I had a very hard time listening to her as a young kid.
Songs like "Crazy" "You're Cheating Heart" "I Fall To Pieces" "She's Got You" always linger like tears that refuse to go - no matter how many times you wipe them away.
Welcome to this HoF Gideon and thanks for this nomination
and thank you Patsy
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Gideon58
03-13-17, 11:37 AM
Sweet Dreams was the 1985 film biography of country and western singing legend Patsy Cline, magnificently portrayed by Jessica Lange, who delivers one of her most charismatic performances as the singing legend who rose from humble beginnings to become a country and western legend.
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Lange imbues a fire and spirit into Cline that is quite endearing and allows us a perhaps partly speculative look at the fire that drove Patsy to become what she did. There is a great moment when Patsy is meeting with a record producer (David Clennon) and she is describing the kind of career she wants and he says, "Oh you want to be Kitty Wells?" and Patsy replies, "Hell no, I wanna be Hank Williams!"
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According to this film, Patsy didn't want to be a country singer, she wanted to BE country music. I also love the scene where Patsy is introduced to the song "Crazy" and says she can't sing this man's song and the producer explains, "Sing it the way you always do, Patsy...your way...let the words tell the story." Patsy slows the tempo, does it her way, and it became her signature song.
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Lange not only delivers a wonderful performance in this film, but she does one of the best jobs I have ever seen on screen of an actor lip-synching to another voice. Her lip-synching to Cline's voice is practically flawless. If it weren't for the fact that I know exactly what Cline's recordings sounded like, it would have been hard to tell that Lange was not doing her own singing here. Lange delivers such a charismatic performance here that, despite the fact that her singing is dubbed, Lange still received an Oscar nomination for her performance.
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Lange also gets solid support from Ed Harris as Patsy husband, Charlie Dick and from Ann Wedgeworth as Patsy's mom. I don't know why this has always bothered me but I noticed that in COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER, Patsy seemed to be a major character in Loretta Lynn's story but Loretta is not even mentioned in this film. Nevertheless, this is a warm and entertaining film, definitely a notch above the average film biography, thanks mostly to an extraordinary performance by Jessica Lange.
Gideon58
03-13-17, 11:43 AM
Walk the Line is the 2005 biopic tracing the roots of country music legend Johnny Cash, as well as his relationship with second wife, June Carter. As someone who has, if nothing else, a vague recollection of Cash, I found him to be a refreshing topic for a film biography. Since his son's name is one of the names credited to the screenplay, I would think that it is probably pretty accurate as far as the facts are concerned, but that doesn't make it necessarily a great film.
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Joaquin Phoenix is electrifying as Johnny Cash and totally nails the darkness and intensity of the character in a performance that I now think should have won him the Oscar. Phoenix completely loses himself in this character and turns in one of the greatest screen creations of a real life person ever. Reese Witherspoon won an Oscar for her work as June Carter, but I was not nearly as impressed with her work as I was with Phoenix. It's a solid performance but Oscar-worthy? I don't know. Other than an amazing performance by Phoenix, what we get here is just another show biz biography with all the same tired scenes we've seen in every show biz biography, from the "My daddy was mean to me when I was a kid" scene to the "I don't really have a drug problem, I'm just misunderstood" scene.
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Ginnifer Goodwin plays Johnny's first wife, who is drawn as such a total b*tch here you have to wonder why Johnny stayed with her. What makes this film worth seeing and what earned it this reviewer's rating is the breathtaking performance by Joaquin Phoenix as Johnny Cash.
Gideon58
03-13-17, 11:48 AM
Sissy Spacek's Oscar winning performance is the centerpiece of 1980's Coal Miner's Daughter, an entertaining and apparently factually accurate film biography of country music superstar Loretta Lynn, who loved Spacek's performance and publicly endorsed the film.
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The film covers Loretta Webb's humble beginnings as the sheltered and terribly shy daughter of a domineering coal miner in Butcher Holler, Kentucky and her marriage to Doolittle Lynn at the age of 13. According to the film, Loretta's singing was initially a tool Loretta used to keep her children quiet, but it was Doolittle who recognized a genuine gift in Loretta and pushed her to pursue to it, starting with a car trip from which Loretta awakens to see their car sitting in front of the Grand Ol' Opry.
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The movie has all the scenes you expect to see in a film like this, but it is Spacek's sincerely and vividly real performance that makes this movie so special. I love the scene when Loretta is being interviewed on the radio and innocently starts talking about her sex life with Doolittle. it's such a funny and completely believable moment that Spacek totally nails. Tommy Lee Jones matches Spacek scene for scene as Doo, the devoted husband and father who supported his wife's talent completely and didn't seem to mind being Mr. Loretta Lynn, whether or not this is true, only the real Doolittle knows and I have never read any of his thoughts about this film. There are also effective supporting performances from country singer Levon Helm as Loretta's insensitive father and Beverly D'Angelo as Patsy Cline, who, according to this film, was Loretta's mentor and one of her best friends. Oddly enough, in the Jessica Lange biography of Patsy Cline, Sweet Dreams, Loretta Lynn isn't even mentioned.
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Still, the film is grand entertainment where Spacek commands the screen (even though I still think that Oscar should have gone to Mary Tyler Moore, but I think I'm the only one) and any biopic that has the stamp of approval from its subject, has to be worth seeing.
Gideon58
03-13-17, 11:54 AM
Jonah Hill's impeccable comic timing is possibly the one thing that might make a 2010 comedy called Get Him to the Greek worth checking out.
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This outrageously expensive and over the top comedy stars Russell Brand as Aldous Snow, a burnt out rock star who was actually introduced to movie audiences two years earlier in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Aldous hasn't cut an album in three years since the release of an album he made called "African Child" which was a commercial and critical disaster. But the tenth anniversary of a legendary concert he did at the Greek Theater is approaching and Hill, playing a record company employee named Aaron, has the idea to do a 10th anniversary concert, preceded by an appearance on The Today Show. Aaron's boss (Sean "Puffy" Combs) sends Aaron to London to persuade Snow to do the concert and then to get him on The Today Show and to the Greek Theater on schedule, which turns out to be a monumental task.
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The basic plot of this film actually resembles a comedy from 1982 called My Favorite Year, but instead of 1950's live television, sex, drugs, and rock and roll are the now the canvas for this story. The progression of events are pretty much the same though...Aaron has to get Aldous away from the clubs, drugs, and women long enough to get him on a plane back to the states, complicated by Snow's messed up marriage to a trampy rock star named Jackie Q (Rose Byrne) and Aaron's girlfriend (Elisabeth Moss), a serious-minded doctor who wants Aaron to quit his job and move to Seattle with her where she wants to do her residency.
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Jason Segel and Nicholas Stoller, the creative team behind The Five Year Engagement have apparently been given an unlimited budget for this film because there is money all over the place here...the film features expensive on location filming in London, Las Vegas, and Manhattan, not to mention a large cast of well-known actors, some in leading roles and some in cameos, but Segel and Stoller seem to have the juice to attract serious talent and budget for their work.
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Don't get me wrong, the film definitely provides laughs, but a lot of them are kind of cheap and uninspired...there's this running joke of Jonah Hill's Aaron vomiting throughout the film that gets very old very quickly, but Hill really is the one thing that makes this film worth sitting through. Russell Brand is pretty much Russell Brand in every movie he makes and Sean Combs is annoying, but what I didn't get is why have Brand play a character from another movie, that Hill also appeared in but have Hill play a different character? The film features a plethora of pointless cameos from a lot of stars, including Brand's leading lady in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Kristen Bell, but it's all for naught. This film is a hot mess but hardcore Jonah Hill fans might enjoy it.
ShopkeeperTriumph
03-13-17, 12:09 PM
Great review, Gideon. The funny thing is, I love Hill, but Brand, and Combs are both bigger standouts to me in comparison to his performance in the movie. It's probably due to the fact I've been impressed by Hill's comedy already in the past, but I still needed to be proven the other two could be equally as funny.
How did you like the music? I really dig the tracks made for it. I like how they're funny, but never too over the top, and obvious with the humor, and connections to the plot that makes for good listening outside of the film.
Gideon58
03-13-17, 06:34 PM
PINK FLOYD: THE WALL
A well-worn cinematic premise is given new life thanks to some arresting and unsettling live action and animated visual images and the iconic rock album that forms the soundtrack making 1982's Pink Floyd: The Wall a viewing experience that, despite obvious influences from other films, establishes its own credentials as a unique acid trip of a movie that might startle, confuse, and repel, but riveted this viewer to the screen.
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The film introduces us to Pink (Bob Geldof), a burnt out rock star who has begun a methodical descent into complete madness, a madness that has found Pink building a symbolic wall around him that is shutting him off from the rest of humanity, who want to save him but haven't a clue as exactly how to break through.
Our story flashes back and forth revealing a troubled childhood for Pink,which included the boy's inability to deal with the loss of his father during the war and an emasculating mother who had some unhealthy influences on the boy. This somewhat disturbing character study reveals the central character's obsession with blood, violence, and destruction and it is all so effectively melded together that sometimes we're not sure what is real and what is a manifestation of this guy's shredded mental capacities where heavy drug use have to be a factor. And just when things start to become a little more cohesive, a truly unsettling political bent enters the story which hints at facism and its possible connection to being our hero's savior.
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Originally, it seemed my unfamiliarity with the music of Pink Floyd might have had something to do with my initial confusion regarding this absurdist musical vision; however, as the film progressed, I realized that this was not the case, as the music framing every sick and bizarre image presented here was a perfect fit, so perfect that there were moments in this story, particularly the beginning images of young Pink during his demented school days, I actually found myself tapping my feet, the music having become a natural part of my experience.
Director Alan Parker, whose resume as a director follows no rhyme or reason, is no stranger to mounting musical stories. He directed the 1980 musical Fame and the 1996 film version of the Broadway musical Evita and has a proven track record of combining music and visuals to maximum effect and even though Roger Waters is credited as both composer and screenwriter, making this cinematic vision had to be a completely collaborative effort because the video and audio here had to be conceived simultaneously for maximum effect, even if that effect is confusing and disturbing.
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Parker and Waters have spared no expense here, the film is rich with impressive production values, including some unbelievable animation, which produces some of the film's most stomach-churning moments. If I had one technical quibble and I'm not sure if it was the film itself or the print that I was watching, but there are sections of the film where I really had trouble hearing the audio which was really a major faux pas for a film based on a record album, but I never took my eyes off the screen and never checked my watch. Not for all tastes, but fans of the 1975 Ken Russell film Tommy will have a head start here.
Gideon58
03-13-17, 06:35 PM
Great review, Gideon. The funny thing is, I love Hill, but Brand, and Combs are both bigger standouts to me in comparison to his performance in the movie. It's probably due to the fact I've been impressed by Hill's comedy already in the past, but I still needed to be proven the other two could be equally as funny.
How did you like the music? I really dig the tracks made for it. I like how they're funny, but never too over the top, and obvious with the humor, and connections to the plot that makes for good listening outside of the film.
The music served the story as it should.
SilentVamp
03-13-17, 07:16 PM
Joaquim Phoenix is electrifying as Johnny Cash and totally nails the darkness and intensity of the character in a performance that I now think should have won him the Oscar. Phoenix completely loses himself in this character and turns in one of the greatest screen creations of a real life person ever. Reese Witherspoon won an Oscar for her work as June Carter, but I was not nearly as impressed with her work as I was with Phoenix. It's a solid performance but Oscar-worthy? I don't know.
THANK YOU!!!
I have been feeling this way ever since I first saw the film.
Gideon58
03-13-17, 07:30 PM
THANK YOU!!!
I have been feeling this way ever since I first saw the film.
OMG, I thought I was the only one...that Oscar should have gone to Felicity Huffman for Transamerica.
edarsenal
03-13-17, 08:14 PM
solid reviews all the way through.
Was curious to see how you fared with The Wall; I would guess that it was the version that had some audio issues. You did a splendid job expressing the "experience" of watching it. Very cool.
I felt the same with with Jessica Lange playing Patsy Cline in regards to "fire".
I also feel the same about Witherspoon as June Carter. She WAS very good, but not necessarily Oscar good.
As I stated before, have not seen Coal Miner's Daughter and looking forward to it. I also wondered about Loretta Lynn, or, really, anyone in the country music world in Sweet Dreams. It seemed to be about the marriage and their relationship than about her career which seemed to get passed over to conversations between the two of them.
Perhaps this was due to Charles Dicks' and her family's personal interactions being the focal point or the appearance of the main focus of the story.
This is, in no way a criticism, just simply an observation.
gbgoodies
03-14-17, 05:24 AM
I don't know why this has always bothered me but I noticed that in COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER, Patsy seemed to be a major character in Loretta Lynn's story but Loretta is not even mentioned in this film. Nevertheless, this is a warm and entertaining film, definitely a notch above the average film biography, thanks mostly to an extraordinary performance by Jessica Lange.
I think the reason why Patsy Cline is a major character in Loretta Lynn's movie Coal Miner's Daughter, but Loretta Lynn isn't even mentioned in Patsy Cline's movie Sweet Dreams might be because Patsy Cline was a big influence in Loretta Lynn's career, but Loretta Lynn was friends with Patsy Cline, but she had little influence on her career.
Gideon58
03-14-17, 06:40 PM
THE COMMITMENTS
Dazzling entertainment from opening to closing credits, 1991's The Commitments not only takes a classic show business story and delightfully turns it on its ear, but earns its cinematic credentials by setting the story on foreign soil and providing a story rich with something you don't find in a lot of musicals...stark, in-your-face-realism.
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The setting is contemporary Dublin where we meet an unemployed, aspiring music impressario named Jimmy Rabbitte who decides to put together a band but has a very specific vision for the band that we really don't expect from a young Irishman. Jimmy has decided that the secret to his band is the Motown sound...James Brown, Wilson Pickett, Percy Sledge, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas, etc. Starting with nothing but his vision, Jimmy places an ad in a local paper and holds auditions for the band from his home and as hopefuls arrive, before they even perform, the only thing Jimmy wants to know is who their musical influences are, if they name anyone Caucasian, he slams the door in their face. Once he has found the exact combination of musicians he wants, some completely by accident, he goes about making his vision a reality and finds the road is not an easy one, but Jimmy knows this well-traveled road and never takes his eye off the prize...the first Irish soul band.
This film, is more than anything, a testament to the genius that is director Alan Parker, no stranger to directing musicals (Fame, Evita) bringing what he learned in the mounting of those films and putting a fresh and delicious gloss that thoroughly entertains without ever leaving the realm of reality. Except for one brief scene on a subway train, there is no random bursting into song and dance on crowded streets here...this is a story of a man with a serious vision about the kind of band he wants and also keenly aware of the delicate egos of musicians and knows exactly how to deal with them. As an outsider looking in on this story, we think we are chains our being yanked when Jimmy's vision is presented, but we realize he is dead serious when we see him sit some of the band members down and have them watch a video of James Brown and when we see the confused looks on the band members' faces, we know we are not heading into your typical backstage musical.
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Parker and screenwriter Dick Clement (based on a novel by Roddy Doyle) have created a story rich with characters that are nothing like what we expect from the premise. I love that the lead singer Jimmy hires is an overweight, sexist pig who can't eat a pastry without getting it all over his face. I love that the only band member who understands Jimmy's vision from jump is a trumpet player old enough to be his father who is instantly made a member of the band when he brags about jamming with BB King. I loved that the guy who Jimmy originally hired to be security eventually ends up being his drummer. But what I loved most about this story is that this band, as terrific as they are, do not become an instant success and their debut gig has more than its share of hiccups, as does their second...and third.
In addition to Parker's sparkling direction, credit must be given to Wilson Pickett for his sensational musical arrangements of the Motown classics recreated here, which never attempt to duplicate the original recordings but completely respect this one of a kind musical sound that reinvented music in the late 50's and early 60's and watching a bunch of white Irish guys doing it, just adds to this story's entertainment. The film also features terrific art direction, sound mixing (obviously) and Oscar-nominated film editing. ''
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Parker wisely chose not to populate the film with a lot of stars, utilizing a hand-picked cast who serve the story, even if complete attention is required due to the heavy Irish brogues and slang employed, but attention is rewarded in spades here. There is standout work from Robert Arkins as Jimmy, Andrew Strong as the slovenly lead singer, and Johnny Murphy as the veteran trumpet player. Mention should also be made of Colm Feore, the biggest "name" in the cast, playing Jimmy's dad who thinks Elvis is God. A one-of-a-kind movie experience that will have you tapping you toes and dusting off your Motown collection.
Gideon58
03-15-17, 09:04 PM
Ray is the riveting and richly entertaining film biography of blind musical icon Ray Charles, from his more than humble beginnings in rural Mississippi to his eventual super stardom as one of the leading R&B artists of this century.
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Lovingly directed by Taylor Hackford, this film paints Charles as a man who, from childbirth had it instilled in him that he was not to allow his blindness to be a roadblock in achieving anything that he wanted to achieve and that remaining independent in spirit would get him where he wanted to be and would take away the liability of his handicap.
Taylor Hackford has always been a very self-indulgent director whose work (AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN, WHITE KNIGHTS, DELORES CLAIBORNE, etc.)has always been meticulous in detail to the point where a 90 minute movie ends up being two and a half hours, and this movie is no exception. Almost two hours into the story, the film has only reached the year 1958, but interest is sustained due to some extraordinary performances, mainly the dazzling Oscar-winning performance by Jamie Foxx in the title role.
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Foxx is nothing short of miraculous in his interpretation of Charles, a brilliant melding of acting genius and impersonation that is positively haunting in its accuracy for those of us who grew up with Ray. The elements of impersonation never become mimicry and Foxx's work in this role is nothing short of extraordinary...some of Ray's music is dubbed with Charles' voice and Jamie does some singing too but Foxx's performance is so precise, it's hard to tell when Ray is singing and when Foxx is.
Kerry Washington turns in a vivid performance as Ray's devoted wife, a patient church-loving woman who puts up with a lot (downplayed in this screenplay)but remains loyal to the man. Clifton Powell is very good as the leader of Ray's band and there is a powerhouse turn by Regina King, in a performance that should have earned her a Supporting Actress nomination, as one of Ray's back-up singers, who Ray has an affair with and gets pregnant. King has not been seen to such good advantage since JERRY MAGUIRE. There is also a mesmerizing and heartbreaking performance by Sharon Warren as Ray's no-nonsense mother.
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Yes, the movie is about 30 minutes too long and the screenplay downplays and/or glosses over the downside of Ray's life, his drug abuse and womanizing in particular (the film portrays Ray as fathering one illegitimate child even though IRL he fathered about six I believe), but I think this was out of respect to the subject, who was still alive at the time this film was being made.
And there is plenty of Ray's music to revel in like "What I Say?", "Hit the Road Jack", "Georgia on my Mind", and "I Can't Stop Loving You". I love the scene where Ray is recording a new song and he's sent the backup singers home already and records all the back-up vocals himself. It's a little long and rambling, but still one of the best biopics of a real life showbiz figure to be mounted in years.
edarsenal
03-15-17, 10:37 PM
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Once
A lovely transient tale revolving around some rather lovely music.
A street performing guitarist in Dublin crosses paths with a pianist and the two eventually decide to write music together and record it.
Insofar as their names are: Guy and Girl, bringing an almost anonymous persona that does not take away from this very serendipitous scenario.
This is an endearing story that truly does revolve around the creativity of the music between two strangers who's accompaniment through their solitary life's ups and downs and musical ability create something quite beautiful.
The truly beautiful aspect is that this could easily run the usual tropes and dramas but it does not. There are the understandable troubles of regular life but, again, we get to follow along as the music blooms, grows and becomes something as the recording process comes into play instead of relying on drama and/or trauma to carry the film.
And the music is, like the story, rather beautiful. While there is a sadness to the words and, in correspondence, the music; it is never depressing or a letdown.
In fact, I was quite uplifted by it all. From the very get go to the very end.
A great lil nom ShopkeeperTriumph!
Ðèstîñy
03-16-17, 02:07 AM
I sort of hate that there's so many of these I do not own. Especially when you consider how many freakin' movies I own. Thousands damn-it, I say thousands. Hmmmmmmm!!! I need to figure out how to do this. I've always had a rule, in my life of collecting movies. I do not rent. I just don't. Which is why I have so many. Don't worry. I'm not bailing. I just need to figure this out.
The Buddy Holly Story ~ Watched, but do not own.
Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny ~ Never watched, and do not own.
Pink Floyd – The Wall ~ Watched, but do not own.
Walk the Line ~ Own, but haven't watched.
Once ~ Never watched, and do not own.
Eddie and the Cruisers ~ I own it, and I've watched this baby a lot!
The Idolmaker ~ Never watched, and do not own.
La Bamba ~ Watched, and own.
School of Rock ~ Never watched, and do not own.
Amadeus ~ Never watched, and do not own.
The Commitments ~ Never watched, and do not own.
Get Him to the Greek ~ Never watched, and do not own.
Coal Miner’s Daughter ~ Watched many times, and own.
Ray ~ Own, but haven't watched.
The Jazz Singer ~ Watched many times, and own. I was hoping someone would nominate this film. I love Neil Diamond.
gbgoodies
03-16-17, 02:17 AM
I sort of hate that there's so many of these I do not own. Especially when you consider how many freakin' movies I own. Thousands damn-it, I say thousands. Hmmmmmmm!!! I need to figure out how to do this. I've always had a rule, in my life of collecting movies. I do not rent. I just don't. Which is why I have so many. Don't worry. I'm not bailing. I just need to figure this out.
The Idolmaker ~ Never watched, and do not own.
I just looked this up, and both Amazon's and Best Buy's web sites show The Idolmaker is available on Blu-Ray for $14.99
https://www.amazon.com/Idolmaker-Blu-ray-Ray-Sharkey/dp/B00CUDD0VQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1489641126&sr=1-1&keywords=idolmaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-idolmaker-blu-ray-1980/21508533.p?skuId=21508533
The Jazz Singer ~ Watched many times, and own. I was hoping someone would nominate this film. I love Neil Diamond.
I almost didn't nominate The Jazz Singer because Neil Diamond's songs don't do well in the song tournaments, so I thought everyone might hate this movie. I'm glad to see that I was wrong about that. :)
Ðèstîñy
03-16-17, 04:40 AM
I just looked this up, and both Amazon's and Best Buy's web sites show The Idolmaker is available on Blu-Ray for $14.99.
Wow, that's not good. I don't do blu ray, and the other DVD is 80.00 dollars.
I almost didn't nominate The Jazz Singer because Neil Diamond's songs don't do well in the song tournaments, so I thought everyone might hate this movie. I'm glad to see that I was wrong about that. :)
Oh yes, I've loved that film since I was around 13 - 16 years old. Unless I end up loving the hell out of a bunch of these, it'll be high up on my list. More than likely, it will be. ;)
Here it is on dvd for 35 dollars, or used for 20 - https://www.amazon.com/Idolmaker-Ray-Sharkey/dp/0792844858/ref=sr_1_1_twi_dvd_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1489651254&sr=1-1&keywords=the+idolmaker
Agreed though that's still really steep, just letting you know.
gbgoodies
03-17-17, 03:25 AM
I just looked this up, and both Amazon's and Best Buy's web sites show The Idolmaker is available on Blu-Ray for $14.99
Wow, that's not good. I don't do blu ray, and the other DVD is 80.00 dollars.
If people are having a problem finding The Idolmaker, my offer still stands for me to change my nom. I don't want to make anyone jump through hoops to find the movie. These HoFs are supposed to be fun, not stressful.
This is the original post where I offered to change my nom to a movie that's on YouTube.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1662043#post1662043
Or I can pick a different movie if nobody wants to watch that movie.
Is Destiny against watching it online? Understood if she is, if not i could find a good link.
gbgoodies
03-17-17, 03:37 AM
Is Destiny against watching it online? Understood if she is, if not i could find a good link.
Based on her post, it sounds like she's buying the DVDs, not watching online, but she would have to confirm this.
Ðèstîñy
03-17-17, 03:39 AM
Are we talking illegal? This is going to sound awful, but I've broke the law so many times in my life, I feel like my luck is probably running out in that department. Then again, maybe that's why I keep having all this sh!ty ass luck. :|
I don't want to make people change their nominations, though.
Ðèstîñy
03-17-17, 03:40 AM
Based on her post, it sounds like she's buying the DVDs, not watching online, but she would have to confirm this.
I only watch them when it's a legal site. The really old movies.
If you have Netflix DVD it is available - https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/The-Idolmaker/618536
gbgoodies
03-17-17, 03:47 AM
Are we talking illegal? This is going to sound awful, but I've broke the law so many times in my life, I feel like my luck is probably running out in that department. Then again, maybe that's why I keep having all this sh!ty ass luck. :|
I don't want to make people change their nominations, though.
Well, my offer still stands, just don't wait too long to let me know because it won't be fair to change it after a bunch of people have watched it.
Ðèstîñy
03-17-17, 04:14 AM
Well, my offer still stands, just don't wait too long to let me know because it won't be fair to change it after a bunch of people have watched it.
Yeah, I know. Tell me this, has anyone watched it, or bought it yet?
Actually, who here has Netflix? Is it available there for either streaming or DVD? I just checked, and since it's been forever since I've been there, they are offering me a free month. I can't search the movies, though, until I rejoin. Is that movie there?
Ðèstîñy
03-17-17, 04:15 AM
If you have Netflix DVD it is available - https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/The-Idolmaker/618536
Maybe I should stop looking at my quotes and mentions, and scroll a little higher. :p ;)
Ðèstîñy
03-17-17, 04:16 AM
Keep it in, woman. I'll rejoin . . . For a month. :p
gbgoodies
03-17-17, 04:19 AM
Keep it in, woman. I'll rejoin . . . For a month. :p
Okay, it's still in. Thanks. :up:
Does the free month work for Netflix DVD too? Just asking as we don't have Netflix DVD, i would've guessed the free month was only for streaming.
Citizen Rules
03-18-17, 03:28 PM
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The Buddy Holly Story (1978)
Maybe one of the most impressive things about this movie, is that it got made at all. There had been two other attempts at making a Buddy Holly movie, but in both cases the window of Buddy Holly - Maria Holly who controlled the rights, turned down the big studio offers. Luckily for us, she finally went with a smaller production company as she felt they would be more attuned to honoring the essences of Buddy Holly.
Even more impressive than that, is the three actors actually perform their own music, playing the instruments themselves and singing....and doing that live during the scene shoot in front of an audience. Nothing is prerecorded, nothing is lip sync. That's
Gary Busey (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000997?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm), Don Stroud (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835144?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm), Charles Martin Smith (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001747?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm), performing the songs live and that's a rarity in movie making.
I liked Gary Busey in this and I'm not usually his biggest fan but even though he doesn't physically resemble Buddy, he does capture his exuberance. The story is told in a straight-forward manner and that works well. Of course we all know how the story ends.
I read that the 50s musician, Little Richard who was at the all black venue Apollo theater on the night that Buddy Holly and the Crickets performed there was pretty accurate.
One of the coolest cars ever to grace the screen is the silver 1959
Cadillac Le Mans roadster. One of only four that were hand built by GM in 1953, and the only one that was redesigned in 1959. It's got to be worth well over 7 figures.
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edarsenal
03-18-17, 06:43 PM
did not know about them doing a live performance to the songs. Very nice touch.
And that IS A SWEET vee-hicle!!
gbgoodies
03-19-17, 01:40 AM
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=29460&stc=1&d=1489861628
The Buddy Holly Story (1978)
Maybe one of the most impressive things about this movie, is that it got made at all. There had been two other attempts at making a Buddy Holly movie, but in both cases the window of Buddy Holly - Maria Holly who controlled the rights, turned down the big studio offers. Luckily for us, she finally went with a smaller production company as she felt they would be more attuned to honoring the essences of Buddy Holly.
Even more impressive than that, is the three actors actually perform their own music, playing the instruments themselves and singing....and doing that live during the scene shoot in front of an audience. Nothing is prerecorded, nothing is lip sync. That's
Gary Busey (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000997?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm), Don Stroud (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835144?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm), Charles Martin Smith (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001747?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm), performing the songs live and that's a rarity in movie making.
I liked Gary Busey in this and I'm not usually his biggest fan but even though he doesn't physically resemble Buddy, he does capture his exuberance. The story is told in a straight-forward manner and that works well. Of course we all know how the story ends.
I read that the 50s musician, Little Richard who was at the all black venue Apollo theater on the night that Buddy Holly and the Crickets performed there was pretty accurate.
One of the coolest cars ever to grace the screen is the silver 1959
Cadillac Le Mans roadster. One of only four that were hand built by GM in 1953, and the only one that was redesigned in 1959. It's got to be worth well over 7 figures.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=29461&stc=1&d=1489861638
I've never been much of a fan of Gary Busey either, but I think he nails his performance as Buddy Holly.
Citizen Rules
03-19-17, 03:05 AM
I'm not really familiar with the real Buddy Holly so Gary Busey worked for me:) Oh and I forgot to mention, in the movie there was a really cool 1950s Philco refrigeration, with an upper and lower doors and big chrome handles. I liked that, almost as much as the car:p
Ðèstîñy
03-20-17, 01:09 AM
Does the free month work for Netflix DVD too? Just asking as we don't have Netflix DVD, i would've guessed the free month was only for streaming.
Sorry, I missed this question. Yes, I get to do both streaming and DVDs until April 18.
Gideon58
03-20-17, 05:36 PM
ONCE
Most likely aimed at moviegoers who don't like musicals as a rule, the 2007 film Once is an unremarkable but lovingly crafted look at the singularly unique passion that music can ignite between two people who otherwise would never connect; however, this is sadly a case where the parts are better than the whole.
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Like another film I viewed recently, The Commitments, the setting is contemporary Dublin where our two central characters meet. He works in his father's vacuum cleaner repair shop during the day and at night, hits the streets of Dublin with his guitar and his own angry music. She is a Czech immigrant and single mother who is drawn to his music and is eventually revealed to be a gifted pianist. She takes him to a music store where she has an understanding with the owner and they combine their gifts with the guitar and piano and a love affair is born, even if they don't realize it.
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This is another one of those cases where if making a strong cinematic statement was about intentions, this would hit a home run, but there's a very sluggish pacing to this story that really doesn't sustain interest for its very economic running time. Writer and director John Carney has a terrific idea here, creating a realistic movie musical, but when it comes down to it, no matter what kind of musical you're making, it comes down to the music as the sticking point and I just found the music rather uninteresting, even though I liked the fact that it was the singular factor linking the two central characters.
On the positive side, the characters' link through their music is so strong that the characters aren't even assigned names and we don't notice or care. I was intrigued by the fact that most of the music seemed to manifest itself through the two characters damaged romantic pasts, but this made for some music that at some times was hard and a little depressing. I did like that the two leads were clearly musicians first and not actors, which definitely aided in the realism that Carney was going for...it was so refreshing seeing a movie character sit down at a keyboard and the camera not have to move away from the keyboard in order to disguise the fact that the actor isn't really playing. It was obvious that every time this guy fingered that guitar and every time her hands flowed over that keyboard that they were creating the music onscreen for us.
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Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglove have a surprising ease onscreen, in what was clearly their first big screen assignments, but I wish they had been given a little more assistance from the screenplay and director in order to create viable screen entertainment that didn't find me stifling the occasional yawn.
SilentVamp
03-20-17, 06:37 PM
Gideon58 Do you know much about the stage musical that was based on the film of Once? I don't know much at all. I just saw the couple of performances that were on the Tonys and that is it. And as I was watching this film, I couldn't really conceive how they could create a full musical show on stage based on this film. I would think they'd need a bit more dialogue for that. Even a bit more action, for lack of a better word.
[quote=Gideon58;1672094]ONCE
I love this simply, beautifull movie. Great choise.
Gideon58
03-20-17, 06:42 PM
Gideon58 Do you know much about the stage musical that was based on the film of Once? I don't know much at all. I just saw the couple of performances that were on the Tonys and that is it. And as I was watching this film, I couldn't really conceive how they could create a full musical show on stage based on this film. I would think they'd need a bit more dialogue for that. Even a bit more action, for lack of a better word.
I remember seeing a performance from this show on the Tony Awards, but that's my only exposure to the stage musical...I really wanted to like this movie, I was hoping it would be another pleasant surprise like The Commitments, but I just couldn't get into this one.
gbgoodies
03-24-17, 03:40 AM
Amadeus
I'm not much of a fan of classical music, so I didn't recognize most of the music in this movie, but I enjoyed the music anyway. The story however was only okay for me.
I think the big problem for me was that I didn't like any of the characters, so I had no emotional attachment to what was going on in their lives. I expected Mozart to be likable, but instead he was just a musical genius who was crude and obnoxious. And I hated his laugh.
And Salieri wasn't a good person either, so I didn't like him, but at least he was a more interesting character.
The story seems so far-fetched, about how Salieri's jealousy caused the downfall of both himself and Mozart, that I can't imagine that much of this movie is historically accurate, but I guess if you like Mozart's music maybe this movie has enough to hold your interest.
gbgoodies
03-24-17, 03:49 AM
Once
This is another movie that seemed to have so much potential, but it didn't live up to what it could have been. It feels like it wants to be a romance, but the characters never pulled me in enough to care if they got together, and the more they talked, the more obvious it seemed that they might not even belong together.
Don't get me wrong, I liked the characters, and I liked watching them spend time together and get to know each other, but even with all the time they were spending together, they didn't seem to be two people who were meant to be together. The actors both seemed to lack charisma, so maybe that was part of the problem.
I'd heard good things about this movie (and the play) previously, so I expected to be blown away by the music in this movie, but with the exception of the song "Falling Slowly", I thought most of the songs were okay, but they were also pretty forgettable.
SilentVamp
03-24-17, 04:00 PM
Gideon needs help finding links to The Idolmaker and The Buddy Holly Story. If anyone could help him out, that would be great.
Thanks. :)
Citizen Rules
03-26-17, 03:03 PM
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La Bamba (1987)
This is my nom, my other one is The Buddy Holly Story. Both movies tell the tale of, 'the day the music died'...That fateful day, February 3 1959, was the day that a plane crash took the lives of three of the great 1950's Rock n Rollers: Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens.
I really enjoyed this film. It pulled me into the story of the Valenzuela family, and I cared about what happened to them. The story of the hardworking mom and her two sons: the older troubled brother and the younger brother, who dreamed of making music and escaping poverty was a powerful story.
I watched a mini-documentary about the making of La Bamba and the director of the movie worked very closely with Ritchie Valens family, the Valenzuela's who were usually on the set during shooting. The movie is faithful to the actual events of 17 year old Ritchie Valens life. I never knew much about him or his music and this movie really gave me a new appreciation for his music.
SilentVamp
03-26-17, 05:44 PM
Citizen Rules
How do you feel about Lou Diamond Phillips playing the part of Ritchie Valens? From what you know now of him, do you think he was a good choice?
I will be getting to my re-watch of this movie this week. I have seen it so many times that it is kind of pointless to re-watch it (and all it does is depress me), but it is just one of those movies that I can never avoid watching. :) If I watched it for the HoF, and it would be on a week later, I would probably watch it again. :yup: It seems to have the same "power" over me like Dirty Dancing and The Shawshank Redemption. I just can't avoid any of them. :shrug:
Citizen Rules
03-26-17, 06:48 PM
@Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637)
How do you feel about Lou Diamond Phillips playing the part of Ritchie Valens? From what you know now of him, do you think he was a good choice? I liked Lou Diamond Phillips in the movie, I thought he made a good Ritchie Valens. The only thing I know of him is that he played in Young Guns. Other than that I have no clue about him. Not seen or heard much about him. Is there something I should now?
SilentVamp
03-27-17, 06:15 PM
I liked Lou Diamond Phillips in the movie, I thought he made a good Ritchie Valens. The only thing I know of him is that he played in Young Guns. Other than that I have no clue about him. Not seen or heard much about him. Is there something I should now?
Do you mean you want a movie recommendation with him in the film? I can think of a couple, if you're interested. :)
No, I just meant that I don't know if he is the best choice for Valens. I think he is very good in the film, but looks wise, he didn't really fit the role, I don't think. For one thing, LDP is kind of too thin to be Ritchie Valens. Also, I don't think they look that much alike. But then again, I am just nit-picking right now, I suppose. He was good enough in the film to overlook the lack of resembling him. But maybe it is just me who doesn't see any sort of resemblance. :)
Gideon58
03-27-17, 06:24 PM
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Sweet Dreams
Welcome to this HoF Gideon and thanks for this nomination
and thank you Patsy
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Glad you enjoyed the film...I think it's one of Lange's best performances.
Gideon58
03-27-17, 06:34 PM
Walk the Line
This was another great movie with my kind of music. Johnny Cash was one of the greatest country music singers ever, and this movie shows us how he got his start, and eventually became a superstar.
Overall Joaquin Phoenix did a great job as Johnny Cash, but there were a few times when it felt glaringly obvious that he wasn't Johnny Cash, and that momentarily took me out of the movie, but then within a few minutes, he was back on track, and I was back in the movie again. On the other hand, Reese Witherspoon was terrific as June Carter.
I thought they did a good job of casting talented people in the roles of Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis, and it was a nice touch that they cast Shooter Jennings in the role of his father, Waylon Jennings.
Personally, I thought Phoenix was brilliant but did not feel Witherspoon at all as June Carter...can't believe she won an Oscar for this.
Gideon58
03-27-17, 07:07 PM
And I don't remember the name of the actor, but I loved the actor who played Elvis.
edarsenal
03-27-17, 09:52 PM
Glad you enjoyed the film...I think it's one of Lange's best performances.
I'm a big fan of Lange and she really did an excellent portrayal in this.
gbgoodies
03-28-17, 02:59 AM
Pink Floyd - The Wall
I saw this movie a few times back in my college days, but I never understood it. I watched it twice for this HoF. The first time I watched it with Hubby, and I kept asking him questions about what was happening in the movie, but he was no help. (Basically his answer was that he doesn't understand it, but he likes the movie for the music. :facepalm:) Then I watched it alone, but I had the Wikipedia page for this movie open as a reference. I read the plot before I watched the movie again, and sometimes while I was watching the movie, but I still don't understand this movie. :shrug:
All I really got out of this movie was that the main guy was a rock star who was depressed because his life sucks. His father died in the war when he was a kid, so he didn't have a father figure around, and he didn't like his mother. His girlfriend cheated on him, and he was going to cheat on her, but he got angry and trashed the room instead. His manager drugged him to get him to perform, and something about kids rebelling in school. :confused:
Maybe it's true, and the only way to understand this movie is to watch it while you're stoned, but I'll never know if that's true or not.
And unfortunately I don't have Hubby's advantage of just watching this movie for the music, because I didn't like most of the music. For some reason, when people nominate Pink Floyd songs in the song tournaments, I usually like them, but for some reason, they never sound like the music that I heard in this movie. :suspicious:
Hopefully other people will have a better experience watching this movie than I did because it's just not for me. I've seen movies that I didn't understand before, but I usually watch them again to try to figure out what I missed about the movie, but this movie is just too depressing for me to watch again just to figure it out. :(
Citizen Rules
03-28-17, 02:41 PM
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Walk The Line (2005)
My new favorite movie in this Hof! I would have rated this highly even in the general Hof. I'd seen it once before, like 5 years ago and had forgotten much of it. But I knew it was a really good movie, and on a second watch I'm more convinced of that than ever.
I though Joaquin Phoenix gave a fine performance as a young Johnny Cash. Did he look just like him, no...and that doesn't matter. What does matter is he nailed the body language and vocal inflictions of Johnny Cash. I believed he was the man in black! And Joaquin sang his own songs, impressive! He sounded good and a lot like Cash.
Reese Witherspoon I also really liked her in this. I have no idea what June Carter Cash looks like or even sounds like, and it doesn't matter to me if Reese doesn't look just like her. She captured this lively spirit and convinced me she was June. And she sang her own songs too! And could Reese be any more cutter than in the start of this movie! Especially in the 1954 scenes at the Grand Old Opry, she was perkily, adorable. I think every Hof should have a Reese Witherspoon movie.
What an amazing story, that was told so well that I held my breath for much of the movie...That means I was intently focused on the story, and that doesn't happen with many movies. The sets, and the way it was filmed told me this was a professionally made movie. I don't like country music, and yet I still liked hearing the songs performed live...and that says a lot about the quality of the movie too.
SilentVamp
03-28-17, 06:16 PM
I read the plot before I watched the movie again
There's an actual plot to the movie?! :D
he was going to cheat on her, but he got angry and trashed the room instead
I don't know why. I don't know if it is the way it was worded, but I got a good chuckle out of this line that you wrote. :D
Gideon58
03-28-17, 07:11 PM
THE BUDDY HOLLY STORY
Despite some cliched musical biopic plotting, 1978's The Buddy Holly Story is totally winning entertainment, thanks primarily to an amazing marriage of actor and character that absolutely makes this biopic work.
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It is Lubbock Texas in 1956 where we meet Charles Hardin "Buddy" Holly, the front man for a three piece rock and roll band who appear on a weekly radio program broadcast from a local roller rink, whose devil-worshiping rock and roll upsets Lubbock residents but attracts the attention of a record producer in Nashville, who likes Buddy's sound, but wants to put a hillbilly beat behind it, which Buddy is not feeling at all. Almost simultaneously, Buddy learns that his roller rink producer sent a tape of his music to a New York record producer who wants to sign Buddy's band and agrees to let Buddy do his music his way.
Director Steve Rash and writer Alan Swyer, who adapted the screenplay from a book by John Goldrosen, have mounted a musical biopic in the most classic sense of the term. providing all the expected scenes that the genre implies...we see Buddy's humble beginnings where he is ridiculed and told that he will never be able to make a living from his passion, which most dismiss as a "hobby" to the initial conflict with bigwigs who want to put their own spin on the sound Buddy hears in his head, to the eventual control of his own career which unfortunately manifests the expected tension between Buddy and his band, when Buddy's fame elevates him to the point where he doesn't really need his drummer and bass player anymore, not to mentioned the obligatory love story with a secretary at the record label. We even get to see a set of theater marquees where we actually witness Buddy's name at the bottom of the marquee at the beginning of the story and inch its way up to the top for his final concert appearance.
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I was intrigued by the reveal that most of the attention that Buddy and the Crickets originally received came from the fact that when most people in the music business heard their music, it was assumed that they were black, climaxed by their historical appearance as the first Caucasian band to appear at the Apollo and how the band won the all-block audience over pretty quickly.
The production team brought a real musical authenticity to the story by having the actors record the music live and perform the songs onscreen as they were being filmed and anyone who has ever watched a musical with prerecorded music will immediately be able to tell the difference, giving complete respect to Buddy's music with a realistic sound that really makes the musical segments of the film come alive. And as large chunk of Buddy's most memorable songs are reproduced here, including "That'll be the Day", "Oh Boy" "Maybe Baby" "True Love Ways", and "It Doesn't Matter Anymore."
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But most of all, what this movie has is a dazzling starring performance from Gary Busey in the title role, a genuine movie star turn that earned the actor his first and only Oscar nomination for Outstanding Lead Actor. I have never enjoyed Busey onscreen more (with the possible exception of Mr. Joshua) and his vocal work producing the Holly sound was surprisingly impressive. The vocals produced by Busey and Charles Martin Smith (so memorable as Toad in American Graffiti), who playes Ray Bob, Buddy's bass player and back-up singer are on the money and Don Stroud, a bold and intense actor who never had the career he deserved, is properly moody as Buddy's drummer. The relationship between these three guys forms the heart of this movie and it's distressing when Buddy's fame starts to tear them apart, but it is nothing out of the realm of show business reality. Conrad Janis also scores as Buddy's New York producer and there are fun cameos by standup Paul Rooney as Sam Cooke and impressionist Fred Travelena as a manic disc jockey. Fans of musical biopics and of Gary Busey should eat this one up.
edarsenal
03-28-17, 07:56 PM
Pink Floyd - The Wall
I saw this movie a few times back in my college days, but I never understood it. I watched it twice for this HoF.
I pretty much knew this was NOT gonna work for you, gbg and truly felt bad when you joined and that I had already submitted this one. :(
If I could double rep you for actually trying to watch this TWICE?! I happily would.
So, serious kudos for trying gbg!! THANK YOU
Also, sorry to hear you didn't enjoy Amadeus. The initial plot is a bit far-fetched and is based (if I remember correctly) on a stage production and definitely not on historical fact.
Citizen Rules it's been a while since seeing Walk The Line so it should be pretty cool to check it out again for this.
And great lil write up on La Bamba. From what I remember, I do remember liking Philips' acting chops in this one.
Gideon58 ALWAYS a pleasure to read your tidbits in your reviews. I do remember how it was Busey and the others actually playing and I do remember, as a kid, how Buddy Holly, when he first started playing, surprised quite a few audiences when they saw this scrawny, bespectacled white boy walk out on stage.
Great review.
gbgoodies
03-29-17, 04:29 AM
I pretty much knew this was NOT gonna work for you, gbg and truly felt bad when you joined and that I had already submitted this one. :(
If I could double rep you for actually trying to watch this TWICE?! I happily would.
So, serious kudos for trying gbg!! THANK YOU
Also, sorry to hear you didn't enjoy Amadeus. The initial plot is a bit far-fetched and is based (if I remember correctly) on a stage production and definitely not on historical fact.
Don't feel bad about nominating movies that I didn't like. I have very unique taste in movies, (and music), so there are always a few movies in these HoFs that just aren't my type of movies. I knew that before I joined. That's what these HoFs are all about, watching new movies, and maybe finding some new favorites. Hopefully the rest of the people who joined will love your noms. :)
Citizen Rules
03-29-17, 12:26 PM
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The Jazz Singer (1980)
I know some say Neil Diamond wasn't the greatest actor in this. But I liked him. He had this honest quality about him and I believed he was his character. The Jazz Singer, is a good story that gives us a lot of insight into Orthodox Judaism. It's not a splashy movie, it seems more sincere, than showy. The best part was Neil Diamond's music and he has a lot of great songs featured in the movie.
I didn't know Laurence Olivier was in this until I seen his name in the opening credits. But...I didn't see him in the movie! Until I realized he was playing the old Jewish-Polish immigrant who was a Cantor. Wow! what a performance. I would have never guessed that was Olivier if I hadn't seen his name first.
As much as I liked Neil Diamond in this, I couldn't stand his love interest, Lucie Arnaz. Even when I was a teen I couldn't stand her. She grates on my nerves, which didn't help the love scenes any! No!....Neil don't do it! don't kiss her, yuck!
Luckily she's a small part of the movie and I did enjoy the story, except the part where Neil breaks up with his wife and starts a new romance. It was all so sudden...They needed to show him grieving about the break up some. As the way it was shown, he breaks up and then immediately hops into the arms of Lucie. His wife instead should have been a childhood sweetheart that he was engaged to, but clearly incompatible with. It just seemed so cold heartened the way the wife ends up.
SilentVamp
03-29-17, 02:23 PM
Also, sorry to hear you didn't enjoy Amadeus. The initial plot is a bit far-fetched and is based (if I remember correctly) on a stage production and definitely not on historical fact.
The film is based on a stage play (which I have also seen - probably one of the best plays that I have ever seen), and I am just going to assume that it is safe to assume that the idea for that play maybe came about because Alexander Pushkin had written a play about the two of them. And I think that is where the idea of Salieri having a hand in Mozart's death came about.
I personally love the film. I will wait to say what I have to say about it, though, because I might go on for awhile. :) So we will save my opinions for later.
As much as I liked Neil Diamond in this, I couldn't stand his love interest, Lucie Arnaz. Even when I was a teen I couldn't stand her. She grates on my nerves, which didn't help the love scenes any! No!....Neil don't do it! don't kiss her, yuck!
I actually really like Lucie Arnaz. Always have. I have always actually liked her a hell of a lot better than her mother. :yup:
except the part where Neil breaks up with his wife and starts a new romance. It was all so sudden...They needed to show him grieving about the break up some. As the way it was shown, he breaks up and then immediately hops into the arms of Lucie. His wife instead should have been a childhood sweetheart that he was engaged to, but clearly incompatible with. It just seemed so cold heartened the way the wife ends up.
I couldn't stand the wife. :sick: I was perfectly fine with the way that it ended up because...well...I just didn't like her. :) But he actually liked Lucie Arnaz before the breakup of the marriage. In reality, I didn't care how it played out. But that could be because I just didn't like the wife. Truthfully, that "added" to the story, I guess (to have Olivier have his hissy fit), but the film could've done without the wife altogether.
Gideon58
03-29-17, 07:41 PM
EDDIE AND THE CRUISERS
Though the film has earned a cult following over the years, I'm at a loss to figure out why 1983's Eddie and the Cruisers has any fans at all. This pretentious and snore-inducing drama with music suffers due to a swiss cheese story (plot holes as far as the eye can see), some really cliched dialogue, and some overripe performances.
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This is the story of a magazine writer (Ellen Barkin) who is researching a small rock and roll group from the 60's whose charismatic front man, Eddie Wilson (Michael Pare) apparently drove his car off a bridge in March of 1964. The reporter reveals that at the time of his "death", Eddie was working on a new album called "A Season in Hell" and that some tapes were made of early recording sessions disappeared the day after Eddie's death. The reporter has decided she wants to locate these tapes as well as investigate the possibility that Eddie might still be alive, since his body was never found.
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We are then introduced to former members of the band who the reporter approaches in her quest for the truth. Frank Ridgeway (Tom Berenger) was the keyboard player and lyricist for the group who is now a teacher and seems to want to forget his entire past with Eddie. We also meet Doc (Joe Pantoliano), Sal (Matthew Laurance) and Joann (Helen Schneider) who, along with Frank, all have their homes ransacked as it becomes clear that someone is serious about getting their hands on these tapes and the popular theory is that the only person these tapes could be this important to is Eddie himself.
Director and co-screenwriter Martin Davidson has concocted a convoluted and confusing story that, despite its flashing back and forth between the present and the past, moves at a snails pace and really doesn't endear us to any of these people, most of whom have one foot stuck in the past and trying to blame this moron Eddie for the mess their lives have become. We never really learn who broke into these people's homes and the eventual reveal regarding the tapes is uninspired and was not worthy of the ninety minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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This movie was rough going, requiring toothpicks on the eyelids to sustain interest until the end. Davidson had an OK idea here, which allegedly was based on a real musician named Eddie Wilson, but there's so much silly stuff going on here. Even the musical sequences came off as canned and unconvincing, bringing up another glaring oversight that I couldn't get past...John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band provided the vocals for the movie, including the fabulous "On the Dark Side", which became a top 40 hit. The onscreen group featured Joann, a female singing her heart out as part of the group, but there was not even a hint of a female voice on the audio track. That's just sloppy film making and the performances aren't much better. Berenger is sincere as Frank, but Michael Pare is just dreadful as the title character, a performance that's part Fonzie and part John Milne, part Danny Zuko, but not enough Eddie. Even the usually reliable Joe Pantoliano stunk up the place. I've heard great things about this movie over the years, but it did not live up to its reputation.
edarsenal
03-29-17, 07:54 PM
Don't feel bad about nominating movies that I didn't like. I have very unique taste in movies, (and music), so there are always a few movies in these HoFs that just aren't my type of movies. I knew that before I joined. That's what these HoFs are all about, watching new movies, and maybe finding some new favorites. Hopefully the rest of the people who joined will love your noms. :)
THANK YOU. I fully agree about what the HoFs are about and also that not everything is for everyone, nor am I worried IF people will like my noms. If that was the case, I REALLY shouldn't be in any of these :);)
It's more of a courtesy thing, really. Like in the last general HoF, Miss Vicky was SOOO very tired of having to sit through yet ANOTHER Anderson film and, like with SO MANY folks here, including you, I got a lotta love and respect; and I had read SO MANY reviews of hers where she stepped out of her comfort zone of film watching that I would have happily switched to another film - out of courtesy and respect.
Much like we all were sure to avoid spiders in the animated HoF for you. It's a courtesy thing.
I know that its a very exciting crap shoot when nominating AND when joining in on these. But, at the same time, again, out of courtesy, if I know, honestly know, someone I respect and/or care about is REALLY gonna have a crappy time with something I nominate, in the spirit of it all, and if the opportunity is there, I'll happily choose another. Knowing full well that not everything is for everyone.
and since I feel like I'm going on and on about this, I'll shut up:)
The film is based on a stage play (which I have also seen - probably one of the best plays that I have ever seen), and I am just going to assume that it is safe to assume that the idea for that play maybe came about because Alexander Pushkin had written a play about the two of them. And I think that is where the idea of Salieri having a hand in Mozart's death came about.
I personally love the film. I will wait to say what I have to say about it, though, because I might go on for awhile. :) So we will save my opinions for later.
Never seen the play, but, obviously, a big fan of the movie and I was gonna do the same and save my gushing for my review lol
I actually really like Lucie Arnaz. Always have. I have always actually liked her a hell of a lot better than her mother. :yup:
I couldn't stand the wife. :sick: I was perfectly fine with the way that it ended up because...well...I just didn't like her. :) But he actually liked Lucie Arnaz before the breakup of the marriage. In reality, I didn't care how it played out. But that could be because I just didn't like the wife. Truthfully, that "added" to the story, I guess (to have Olivier have his hissy fit), but the film could've done without the wife altogether.
Been a few decades since seeing this movie, btw, Citizen Rules loved the review, had a strong feeling you'd enjoy it and YES, some really great Neil Diamond songs in this and I remember enjoying his acting as well.
But following up on Silent's comments, I remember having a huge crush on Lucie back then and vaguely remember not caring too much about the wife either - will have to see when I watch it if I feel the same.
And it struck me funny that you didn't recognize Olivier in the Jazz Singer. Really loved him in that as well. I do remember having seen VERY LITTLE of his work prior to this when it came out back in the 80's. I had loved his Richard III a lot as a kid and considered it THE epitome of the story until I saw Ian McKellen reprise it and took away Olivier's #1 spot for me. Though, barely and at times I simply leave them as a tie. . .
Citizen Rules
03-29-17, 10:20 PM
...I actually really like Lucie Arnaz. Always have. I have always actually liked her a hell of a lot better than her mother. :yup:...
...I remember having a huge crush on Lucie back then... It's a real good thing that I edited my review before posting it. I had another dicey descriptive sentence about Lucie Arnaz in there:cool:
Yea I didn't like the wife in The Jazz Singer, but I did feel bad for her.
edarsenal
03-29-17, 11:09 PM
It's a real good thing that I edited my review before posting it. I had another dicey descriptive sentence about Lucie Arnaz in there:cool:
Yea I didn't like the wife in The Jazz Singer, but I did feel bad for her.
I'm actually kinda curious to hear the dicey one, now :randy:
Citizen Rules
03-29-17, 11:11 PM
Ed, so who else did you have a teen crush on, besides Lucie Arnez?
edarsenal
03-29-17, 11:35 PM
Let's see, Lauren Bacall, Jacklyn Smith from Charlie's Angels, Julie Newmar (Catwoman), Catherine Bach (Daisy Duke from Dukes of Hazard), Erin Gray from Buck Rogers, Raquel Welch, and I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some lol
gbgoodies
03-30-17, 03:38 AM
The Jazz Singer (1980)
I know some say Neil Diamond wasn't the greatest actor in this. But I liked him. He had this honest quality about him and I believed he was his character. The Jazz Singer, is a good story that gives us a lot of insight into Orthodox Judaism. It's not a splashy movie, it seems more sincere, than showy. The best part was Neil Diamond's music and he has a lot of great songs featured in the movie.
I love Neil Diamond in this movie, even though he's not a great actor. He's believable enough through most of the movie. I think his worst scene is when his father (Laurence Olivier) leaves after meeting Molly (Lucie Arnaz). We can see Molly's shock, but we don't really feel his pain.
I didn't know Laurence Olivier was in this until I seen his name in the opening credits. But...I didn't see him in the movie! Until I realized he was playing the old Jewish-Polish immigrant who was a Cantor. Wow! what a performance. I would have never guessed that was Olivier if I hadn't seen his name first.
I'm sure I had seen Laurence Olivier before I saw this movie in the theater, but I didn't know who he was until I saw this movie. I was shocked when I eventually saw him in some of his earlier movies and knew him from this movie. I couldn't believe he was that young and handsome back then. He looked like a different person.
As much as I liked Neil Diamond in this, I couldn't stand his love interest, Lucie Arnaz. Even when I was a teen I couldn't stand her. She grates on my nerves, which didn't help the love scenes any! No!....Neil don't do it! don't kiss her, yuck!
I loved Lucie Arnaz in this movie. She was so much fun, and it was easy to see why Jess (Neil Diamond) fell in love with her so easily.
Luckily she's a small part of the movie and I did enjoy the story, except the part where Neil breaks up with his wife and starts a new romance. It was all so sudden...They needed to show him grieving about the break up some. As the way it was shown, he breaks up and then immediately hops into the arms of Lucie. His wife instead should have been a childhood sweetheart that he was engaged to, but clearly incompatible with. It just seemed so cold heartened the way the wife ends up.
I had no problem with the transition from him breaking up with his wife to him getting together with Molly. He and his wife were already drifting apart because he was seeing that they had different goals for his music career, and he and Molly were already falling in love before his wife showed up in California. They even hugged and kissed after he found out that he was opening for Zany Gray.
gbgoodies
03-30-17, 04:00 AM
EDDIE AND THE CRUISERS
Though the film has earned a cult following over the years, I'm at a loss to figure out why 1983's Eddie and the Cruisers has any fans at all. This pretentious and snore-inducing drama with music suffers due to a swiss cheese story (plot holes as far as the eye can see), some really cliched dialogue, and some overripe performances.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51VWPBB9VRL.jpg
This is the story of a magazine writer (Ellen Barkin) who is researching a small rock and roll group from the 60's whose charismatic front man, Eddie Wilson (Michael Pare) apparently drove his car off a bridge in March of 1964. The reporter reveals that at the time of his "death", Eddie was working on a new album called "A Season in Hell" and that some tapes were made of early recording sessions disappeared the day after Eddie's death. The reporter has decided she wants to locate these tapes as well as investigate the possibility that Eddie might still be alive, since his body was never found.
http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/11703_5.jpg
We are then introduced to former members of the band who the reporter approaches in her quest for the truth. Frank Ridgeway (Tom Berenger) was the keyboard player and lyricist for the group who is now a teacher and seems to want to forget his entire past with Eddie. We also meet Doc (Joe Pantoliano), Sal (Matthew Laurance) and Joann (Helen Schneider) who, along with Frank, all have their homes ransacked as it becomes clear that someone is serious about getting their hands on these tapes and the popular theory is that the only person these tapes could be this important to is Eddie himself.
Director and co-screenwriter Martin Davidson has concocted a convoluted and confusing story that, despite its flashing back and forth between the present and the past, moves at a snails pace and really doesn't endear us to any of these people, most of whom have one foot stuck in the past and trying to blame this moron Eddie for the mess their lives have become. We never really learn who broke into these people's homes and the eventual reveal regarding the tapes is uninspired and was not worthy of the ninety minutes of my life I'll never get back.
http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/260597/260597_full.jpg
This movie was rough going, requiring toothpicks on the eyelids to sustain interest until the end. Davidson had an OK idea here, which allegedly was based on a real musician named Eddie Wilson, but there's so much silly stuff going on here. Even the musical sequences came off as canned and unconvincing, bringing up another glaring oversight that I couldn't get past...John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band provided the vocals for the movie, including the fabulous "On the Dark Side", which became a top 40 hit. The onscreen group featured Joann, a female singing her heart out as part of the group, but there was not even a hint of a female voice on the audio track. That's just sloppy film making and the performances aren't much better. Berenger is sincere as Frank, but Michael Pare is just dreadful as the title character, a performance that's part Fonzie and part John Milne, part Danny Zuko, but not enough Eddie. Even the usually reliable Joe Pantoliano stunk up the place. I've heard great things about this movie over the years, but it did not live up to its reputation.
I'm sorry that you didn't like Eddie and the Cruisers. I thought it was a great movie with some great songs. The acting wasn't terrific, but I didn't think it was as bad as you made it sound either. The only one I didn't like was Matthew Laurance (who played Sal Amato).
And we did find out who broke into their houses. It was Doc trying to find the lost tapes. He trashed his own house to cover up that he was the one who trashed everyone else's houses. He was the one who was making the phone calls to Joann too.
gbgoodies
03-30-17, 04:14 AM
THANK YOU. I fully agree about what the HoFs are about and also that not everything is for everyone, nor am I worried IF people will like my noms. If that was the case, I REALLY shouldn't be in any of these :);)
It's more of a courtesy thing, really. Like in the last general HoF, Miss Vicky was SOOO very tired of having to sit through yet ANOTHER Anderson film and, like with SO MANY folks here, including you, I got a lotta love and respect; and I had read SO MANY reviews of hers where she stepped out of her comfort zone of film watching that I would have happily switched to another film - out of courtesy and respect.
Much like we all were sure to avoid spiders in the animated HoF for you. It's a courtesy thing.
I know that its a very exciting crap shoot when nominating AND when joining in on these. But, at the same time, again, out of courtesy, if I know, honestly know, someone I respect and/or care about is REALLY gonna have a crappy time with something I nominate, in the spirit of it all, and if the opportunity is there, I'll happily choose another. Knowing full well that not everything is for everyone.
and since I feel like I'm going on and on about this, I'll shut up:)
I appreciate that you're careful when choosing your nominations, but I also know that there's always a chance that there will be some nominated movies that I won't like. That's why I stopped joining the general HoFs, and I'm just sticking with the genres that are "safer" for me to join.
I usually try to nominate movies that most people will at least like, even if they don't love them. My goal isn't to win the HoF. It's just to get an underrated and/or underseen movie out there for more people to see. (Or in some cases to promote a movie for an upcoming countdown.) Even though rom-coms and musicals are my favorite genres, I try to stay away from nominating them because I know that most people around here don't like those genres. (That's why I was so happy about these musical HoFs.)
The movie that I really wanted to nominate for this HoF was Pure Country (1992) starring George Strait, but I didn't because I know that most people here don't like country music, so I didn't want to force people to sit through a full movie of music they hate. (Ironically there were several other country music biopics nominated by other people in this HoF. :lol:)
BTW, you'll be happy to know that Pink Floyd: The Wall is not the movie I hated the most in this HoF. I watched another movie this afternoon that I hated even more. Anyone want to take a guess what movie it was before I write about it?
Citizen Rules
03-30-17, 11:40 AM
.....I usually try to nominate movies that most people will at least like, even if they don't love them. My goal isn't to win the HoF. It's just to get an underrated and/or underseen movie out there for more people to see. (Or in some cases to promote a movie for an upcoming countdown.) Great minds think a like:p I usually choose my movie for the Hofs in the same way. In the 12th Hof I choose a sci fi Never Let Me Go (2010) in hopes it would make the Countdown (which it didn't)...However I nominated Caged (1950) a very obscure movie that did make the 1950s countdown.
The movie that I really wanted to nominate for this HoF was Pure Country (1992) starring George Strait, but I didn't because I know that most people here don't like country music, so I didn't want to force people to sit through a full movie of music they hate. (Ironically there were several other country music biopics nominated by other people in this HoF. :lol:) I've loved the country biopics, I still need to watch Coal Miner's Daughter. I looked up Pure Country, pretty sure I would not have liked it, sorry:indifferent:
BTW, you'll be happy to know that Pink Floyd: The Wall is not the movie I hated the most in this HoF. I watched another movie this afternoon that I hated even more. Anyone want to take a guess what movie it was before I write about it?
It didn't happen to have Jack Black in it did it;)
edarsenal
03-30-17, 03:10 PM
that's pretty much how I feel as well, gbg. To bring something unknown and to find something unknown to me. I get the going for the specialized HoFs which is why I was pretty hyped when CR invited me to join in on the 40s HoF - big fan of that decade of movies and there such a number of flicks I'd not heard of and fully enjoyed.
And it is kinda funny that you held off only to have a number of country icons show up lol
I remember Caged getting a lot of high remarks during the 50's countdown - congrats CR!
SilentVamp
03-30-17, 05:56 PM
BTW, you'll be happy to know that Pink Floyd: The Wall is not the movie I hated the most in this HoF. I watched another movie this afternoon that I hated even more. Anyone want to take a guess what movie it was before I write about it?
It didn't happen to have Jack Black in it did it;)
I just assumed that one was going to be the most hated film of hers in this HoF. :) If I am wrong, and you are wrong (because I am pretty much sure that we are right), then I would be surprised.
I get the going for the specialized HoFs which is why I was pretty hyped when CR invited me to join in on the 40s HoF - big fan of that decade of movies and there such a number of flicks I'd not heard of and fully enjoyed.
As far as I am concerned, the 40's are the best decade for film. Followed by the 80's. :D I love films of the 80's. :D But the 40's have so many excellent films.
And it struck me funny that you didn't recognize Olivier in the Jazz Singer. Really loved him in that as well. I do remember having seen VERY LITTLE of his work prior to this when it came out back in the 80's. I had loved his Richard III a lot as a kid and considered it THE epitome of the story until I saw Ian McKellen reprise it and took away Olivier's #1 spot for me. Though, barely and at times I simply leave them as a tie. . .
Off-topic here, but are you a Shakespeare fan?
Just curious. :)
By the way, edarsenal, here is a little bit more of Lucie Arnaz for you. :D I just had to include this in this post because it gives me a chance to show off a bit of They're Playing Our Song. :) If I wasn't listening to my brother's cast recording of Sweeney Todd (kind of a little freaked out by the album cover the whole time :p) when I was a kid, I was listening to They're Playing Our Song. I loved it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaY8CpfKOo
And, yes, I can include this clip in this HoF as Lucie and Robert Klein are playing songwriters in the show. :)
Gideon58
03-30-17, 06:22 PM
I love the score to They're Playing our Song..."Fallin" is one of my favorite songs to sing.
edarsenal
03-30-17, 07:50 PM
SWEET, thanks!! SilentVamp and yeah, I guess I am a fan of Shakespeare considering just HOW MANY versions I've watched since I was a kid.
I hear ya, most of my favorites ARE from the 40's
gbgoodies
03-31-17, 02:50 AM
BTW, you'll be happy to know that Pink Floyd: The Wall is not the movie I hated the most in this HoF. I watched another movie this afternoon that I hated even more. Anyone want to take a guess what movie it was before I write about it?
It didn't happen to have Jack Black in it did it;)
I just assumed that one was going to be the most hated film of hers in this HoF. :) If I am wrong, and you are wrong (because I am pretty much sure that we are right), then I would be surprised.
There are two Jack Black movies in this HoF, but I've only watched one of them so far, (Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny), and while I didn't like it, surprisingly, that's not the movie I hated more than Pink Floyd: The Wall. I haven't watched School of Rock yet, but it sounds like there's at least one more movie that I'm not looking forward to in this HoF. :(
The movie that I was talking about is Get Him to the Greek. I didn't have high hopes for it because I can't stand Russell Brand, but I thought it had a chance to be okay because I liked Jonah Hill in Moneyball and 21 Jump Street. I didn't expect to like the music, but I tried giving the movie a chance for the story, but sadly, I don't think there was even one redeeming quality in Get Him to the Greek. It was just two hours of sex, drugs and rock 'n roll.
Jonah Hill's character just went along with everything that Russell Brand's character told him to do, regardless of how ridiculous, demeaning, or illegal it was. Even his boss, (played by Sean Combs), told him to do whatever stupid things Russell Brand's character told him to do. At some point, he needed go grow a backbone and stand up to these idiots. And the 3-way with Jonah Hill's girlfriend was not only ridiculous, but totally out of character for both of them.
I apologize to whoever nominated this movie, but if I could give it a negative popcorn box rating, I would.
gbgoodies
03-31-17, 02:53 AM
I've loved the country biopics, I still need to watch Coal Miner's Daughter. I looked up Pure Country, pretty sure I would not have liked it, sorry :indifferent:
I'm not surprised that you don't think you would like Pure Country. I don't think many people here would, unless there are some closet country music lovers. I love the movie, but I try to pick movies that other people might at least like, and I didn't expect that with this movie, so that's why I didn't nominate it.
Citizen Rules
03-31-17, 03:09 AM
....The movie that I was talking about is Get Him to the Greek....I don't think there was even one redeeming quality in Get Him to the Greek. It was just two hours of sex, drugs and rock 'n roll.
I apologize to whoever nominated this movie, but if I could give it a negative popcorn box rating, I would. That was ShopkeeperTriumph movie. So far he hasn't posted in either Hof.
gbgoodies
03-31-17, 03:17 AM
That was ShopkeeperTriumph movie. So far he hasn't posted in either Hof.
Just like in the song tournaments, in the HoFs, I usually don't look to see which movies are whose nominations because if I know that person's taste in movies, I don't want to have any subconscious opinions or preconceived notions about the movies before I watch them.
I don't think ShopkeeperTriumph knows me very well, so I hope he doesn't take my write-up of his nom too hard, but ST if you're reading this, I'm probably in the minority with my opinion, so I hope you're just a slow starter with these HoFs, and you stay in the HoFs. This was just one person's opinion, and most people here on MoFo don't usually agree with me anyway.
Citizen Rules
03-31-17, 02:14 PM
Just like in the song tournaments, in the HoFs, I usually don't look to see which movies are whose nominations because if I know that person's taste in movies, I don't want to have any subconscious opinions or preconceived notions about the movies before I watch them. Myself, I like to know whos movie it is, so I can learn that persons taste in films. Which helps me to know my fellow MoFos a bit better.
I rate the movie, not the person, so it doesn't influence me if I know who's film it is. I might hate a good friends movie, and love a movie from someone I don't know. Besides it's posted on the first page of any Hof, so it's kind of hard not to see who nominated what. I think it's interesting how many of us (including myself) gravitate towards certain types of movies.
I keep a notepad file for each Hof that has the movie title,director, year, and who nominated it, and if I requested it (from the library, netflix or internet), if I watched it, and what order I ranked it.
Nestorio_Miklos
03-31-17, 02:18 PM
wow, interesting nomination indeed! do you think i can just watch some of the nominations and write up a little about them?
SilentVamp
03-31-17, 05:28 PM
There are two Jack Black movies in this HoF, but I've only watched one of them so far, (Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny), and while I didn't like it, surprisingly, that's not the movie I hated more than Pink Floyd: The Wall. I haven't watched School of Rock yet, but it sounds like there's at least one more movie that I'm not looking forward to in this HoF. :(
Well, I had a few movies that I wasn't enthusiastic about watching for one reason and another. I will say that 3 of those films surprised me. I ended up liking them, which surprised me.
I keep a notepad file for each Hof that has the movie title,director, year, and who nominated it, and if I requested it (from the library, netflix or internet), if I watched it, and what order I ranked it.
My God, I wish I could be that organized with all of these things. :) I should've definitely been doing that with the song tournaments - at least with the songs that I nominated and when. But it is a good idea with the films, too.
wow, interesting nomination indeed! do you think i can just watch some of the nominations and write up a little about them?
Sure! Of course! You are more than welcome to watch and write about them if you'd like to do so. :) I am particularly curious as to what movies are the ones that have piqued your interest to want to watch them and write a little review about them. So, please, be my guest. :)
Gideon58
03-31-17, 05:45 PM
Just like in the song tournaments, in the HoFs, I usually don't look to see which movies are whose nominations because if I know that person's taste in movies, I don't want to have any subconscious opinions or preconceived notions about the movies before I watch them.
I don't think ShopkeeperTriumph knows me very well, so I hope he doesn't take my write-up of his nom too hard, but ST if you're reading this, I'm probably in the minority with my opinion, so I hope you're just a slow starter with these HoFs, and you stay in the HoFs. This was just one person's opinion, and most people here on MoFo don't usually agree with me anyway.
I don't know how many times I've looked at the opening post for this HoF and I still couldn't tell you who nominated what films...the only time I find out is when people mention it when they respond to my reviews. I watched all the movies in the other HoF and have no idea who nominated any of them.
It's actually in the second post.
edarsenal
03-31-17, 07:05 PM
Just like in the song tournaments, in the HoFs, I usually don't look to see which movies are whose nominations because if I know that person's taste in movies, I don't want to have any subconscious opinions or preconceived notions about the movies before I watch them.
Myself, I like to know whos movie it is, so I can learn that persons taste in films. Which helps me to know my fellow MoFos a bit better.
I rate the movie, not the person, so it doesn't influence me if I know who's film it is. I might hate a good friends movie, and love a movie from someone I don't know. Besides it's posted on the first page of any Hof, so it's kind of hard not to see who nominated what. I think it's interesting how many of us (including myself) gravitate towards certain types of movies.
I keep a notepad file for each Hof that has the movie title,director, year, and who nominated it, and if I requested it (from the library, netflix or internet), if I watched it, and what order I ranked it.
I always try to see who it is since I usually address them directly at some point, if not at the end; and I try not to let it get to me subconsciously and simply stay with how I truly feel, the best I can.
Well, I had a few movies that I wasn't enthusiastic about watching for one reason and another. I will say that 3 of those films surprised me. I ended up liking them, which surprised me.
My God, I wish I could be that organized with all of these things. :)
It's called Obsessive Compulsive and I think if we all chipped in, CR could get the help he truly deserves -- :D;)
Seriously though, that IS pretty cool to be that organized
So, Silent, which three surprised you, if I may ask?
Also, I concur with Silent, Nestorio_Miklos that would be pretty cool to see a few reviews of yours
Citizen Rules
04-01-17, 12:02 AM
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Eddie and the Cruisers (1983)
I have to agree with Gideon, this is not a well made movie. It's like a 90 minute musical version of the TV show TJ Hooker. Only instead of William Shatner as a cop, we get Michael Paré as the snearing-growling Eddie, who turns his character into a one dimensional parody. It's like the director didn't give a crap about production values either. I'd compare this to an old Ed Wood movie, but that wouldn't be fair to Ed Wood. At least Ed had interesting subjects, but here we get a hackneyed story with so many plot holes that I didn't care who was breaking into their homes, or were the missing tapes from A Season In Hell were at....And who thought of that name? A Season in Hell, that made me laugh it sounded so corny...The acting, if you can call it that was horrible. Some of the lines delivered by the actors were out right flat.
I could tell this was a lower budget movie by the way the stage performances were filmed. All the actors were crammed together on what was suppose to be a stage, but looked like a raised platform in the studio. I knew the director had no clue what he was doing, when I noticed he had EVERYONE smoking, and ALL the time. Usually smoking scenes are done to add something to the movie or it tells us something about the characters or what their emotions at the moment. The director had no clue on how to handle this film. None of the scenes set in 1963 looked any different than the scenes in 1983, it's like they didn't even bother to try. And the editing between the flashbacks was poor too.
Nestorio_Miklos
04-01-17, 06:15 PM
AMADEUS
Amazing film! For me, this is a masterpiece that deserves stand up ovation. It’s not about Mozart as it may seem, it’s clearly about Antonio Salieri on the verge of his insanity and his confession to a priest . However we don’t see the absolution but only terrified priest after hearing out Salieri’s journey to depths of his soul. It is he himself who ironically absolving all mediocrity somehow thinking he owns the power to do so.
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This fictionalized play is about Salieri’s personal spiritual battle with God. He hates God for not given him talent to compose unforgettable music hence the cross thrown in fireplace. His music was indeed forgotten and then after this film revived again. I understand the fact of Salieri undermining himself because every artist, would it be a musician, actor, painter needs an honest feedback from people that surrounds, from people that loves him. There is always this feeling of not being good enough that tormenting every artist’s soul. It was fascinating the way he describes to priest his covetousness for Mozart’s talent, this subtle and sophisticated ways how to destroy him. All this jealousy leads him to madness ending up in institution. The deepness of it and detail depiction of his evil mind somehow reminds me of C. S. Lewis’ The Screwtape Letters. Salieri as Screwtape giving advice to Wormwood, or in this case to the priest or to all of us.
Directing, acting and obiously score was only impeccable with lavish costumes and wonderful architecture.
There is an important message, jealousy not good as it feeds on your soul, it makes you do horrible things, it makes you empty, it makes you insane.
edarsenal
04-01-17, 10:20 PM
just read your review, CR, I had found this movie early on and started watching it and the sound wasn't very good and only made it about 20 min in before feeling I wouldn't be giving it a fair shake. So we'll have to see - or rather, I will have to see lol
Nestorio_Miklos WOW you really got the inner workings of this movie and yes, Salieri does seem to share equal time with Mozart's character and Abrams did SUCH a phenomenal job. His nuances, ESPECIALLY while in the sanitarium were incredible.
edarsenal
04-01-17, 10:40 PM
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Amadeus
That, that was Mozart. . .
I had, literally, fell in love with this movie when I first saw it when it came out. Connecting on so many levels with both the character of Mozart and being blown away by Abrams' brilliance playing Salieri.
"I'm a vulgar man, but I swear to you, my music is not."
While the very premise is fictional there were countless minor facts that were brought to this film. The billiard table that Mozart wrote from, the very fact that he wrote only once, no corrections; as if he "dictated" the music, the tragic demise of being buried in a Potter's Field (a common grave for the poor) and for me, at that time, such things reverberated through me in regards to the 'madness' of abandoning one's self to the "divination" of creativity and the parasitic price that it exacts.
And as I've grown older I also began to appreciate, or rather, lessen my disdain for Salieri's jealousy and his own acceptance into mediocrity.
While so many films traverse this all too familiar road of greatness being a "vessel" and being cast aside afterward and those who could not achieve that level and the pettiness that it brings, Amadeus creates something truly sublime and wondrously glorious even when the "price" is being exacted.
I am continually captivated by this movie and all that it entails.
gbgoodies
04-02-17, 02:25 AM
Eddie and the Cruisers (1983)
I didn't care who was breaking into their homes, or where the missing tapes from A Season In Hell were at....And who thought of that name? A Season in Hell, that made me laugh it sounded so corny...
The name "A Season in Hell" was explained in the movie. There was a guy who wrote a poem called "A Season in Hell", (I don't remember his name, but you can probably find it through Google), and after he wrote the poem, he disappeared and everyone thought he was dead. They found out about 20 years later that he faked his own death, when he showed up in a hospital in another country. They speculated that it was called "A Season in Hell" because Eddie had faked his own death, just like the author of the poem.
gbgoodies
04-02-17, 02:33 AM
I think this HoF is just proving how different my taste in movies is from most people here. I didn't like Amadeus, but so far the other reviewers loved it, but I love Eddie and the Cruisers, and so far, the other reviewers hated it. :shrug:
If this continues, Get Him to the Greek will probably win this HoF. :lol:
edarsenal
04-02-17, 01:43 PM
I think this HoF is just proving how different my taste in movies is from most people here. I didn't like Amadeus, but so far the other reviewers loved it, but I love Eddie and the Cruisers, and so far, the other reviewers hated it. :shrug:
If this continues, Get Him to the Greek will probably win this HoF. :lol:
I hope not!! not a fan of that one either
edarsenal
04-02-17, 01:44 PM
on a separate note, has anyone heard from clazor? Is he okay?
Citizen Rules
04-02-17, 02:44 PM
on a separate note, has anyone heard from clazor? Is he okay?Clazor was on the board just yesterday, so he's around. But so far he hasn't posted a review in either of the musical Hofs.
I had PMed him a few weeks ago and asked if he was still in the Hofs, he said yes and that he had to finish the The Universal Monsters/Hammer Horror Crossover HoF first... He's been very reliable in other Hofs.
But just in case, I'm holding off on watching both Clazor's and ShopkeeperTriumph's noms until the end of the Hof. I hope they start participating, and then I will be happy to watch their noms.
Actually I already watched 2 of Clazor's noms.
Gideon58
04-02-17, 05:26 PM
THE JAZZ SINGER (1980)
Neil Diamond was a driving force in the world of pop music during the 1970's and 80's and someone got the bright idea that his popularity could be capitalized upon by making him a movie star. The 1980 film The Jazz Singer is the second remake of the history-making 1927 film that came to be known as the first "talkie", but this film shamelessly rips off a cinematic legacy and makes a singer's attempt to become an actor look pretty lame.
http://img.moviepostershop.com/the-jazz-singer-movie-poster-1980-1010703139.jpg
Diamond plays Jess Rabinovitch, a Jewish cantor who attempts to defy family tradition (cantors go back five generations in his family) and become a rock star, changing his last name to Robin. Jess forsakes his wife (Caitlin Adams) and his very strict father (Laurence Olivier) to go to California when he learns that rock star Keith Lennox (Paul Nicholas) wants to record one of his songs. Even though that doesn't work out, Jess decides to stay in California to continue pursuit of his dream with the help of Lennox's former aide (Lucie Arnaz) and his BFF from New York (Franklyn Ajaye).
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Needless to say, this film probably bears little resemblance to the 1927 original, which was actually based on a play by Samson Raphaelson. Herbert Baker's long-winded screenplay attempts to give a contemporary face lift to an outdated story, utilizing every tired show biz movie cliche that we've been subjected to in far superior movies. I guess we weren't supposed to notice because it's Neil Diamond. We have the defying-the-family scene, to the showing-the-vet-how-to-perform-my-music scene to our hero achieving a modicum of success (which occurs in about 20 minutes) and letting it all go to his head to the leaving the pressures of success to go out and "find himself." Richard Fleischer's lackluster and unimaginative direction doesn't help matters either.
Diamond does provide some nice songs for this film, which are probably the best thing about it. Written by Diamond, Alan Lindren, Gilbert Becaud, and Doug Rhone, the songs include "America", "You Baby", "Amazed and Confused", "Summerlove", "Hello Again", and the fabulous "Love on the Rocks."
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/D1HDE9/the-jazz-singer-1980-lucie-arnaz-neil-diamond-richard-fleischer-dir-D1HDE9.jpg
I remember seeing this film during its original theatrical release and having my high hopes dashed. I've always felt a bit of a kindred spirit to Diamond because we share a birthday, but it doesn't change the fact that this film is a real snooze-fest. The acting ranges from wooden to over the top. Diamond is just out of his element as an actor and even Laurence Olivier is hard to take here...the climactic scene where he tears his clothes and declares he has no son is almost funny, though it really shouldn't be. A lot of money and faith went into this project, but faith sadly turned to dross here.
Citizen Rules
04-02-17, 05:36 PM
Gideon, what did you think of Lucie Arnaz in The Jazz Singer?
Gideon58
04-02-17, 05:44 PM
Gideon, what did you think of Lucie Arnaz in The Jazz Singer?
She was OK, nothing more, nothing less.
Citizen Rules
04-02-17, 05:49 PM
I don't know if you read my review on the Jazz Singer, but I didn't care for her.
Gideon58
04-02-17, 05:56 PM
I don't know if you read my review on the Jazz Singer, but I didn't care for her.
I just read your review of Eddie and the Cruisers but missed your review of this one, I'll have to check it out.
gbgoodies
04-03-17, 03:25 AM
THE JAZZ SINGER (1980)
Diamond does provide some nice songs for this film, which are probably the best thing about it. Written by Diamond, Alan Lindren, Gilbert Becaud, and Doug Rhone, the songs include "America", "You Baby", "Amazed and Confused", "Summerlove", "Hello Again", and the fabulous "Love on the Rocks."
I'm sorry that you didn't like The Jazz Singer, but at least it sounds like you enjoyed the music. :)
Gideon58
04-03-17, 10:44 AM
I'm sorry that you didn't like The Jazz Singer, but at least it sounds like you enjoyed the music. :)
I've always enjoyed Neil Diamond's music, but not this movie.
SilentVamp
04-03-17, 03:02 PM
So, Silent, which three surprised you, if I may ask?
No you may not ask because that would spoil my reviews that I will write. :D (Although I am tempted to reveal them :)).
Nestorio_Miklos I have added your review of Amadeus to the list on the first page. :)
Gideon, what did you think of Lucie Arnaz in The Jazz Singer?
You just really want to find someone who hated her as much as you did, don't you? :p
By the way, gbgoodies, would you like me to just consider your comments about Get Him to the Greek as your review for your film? I'll just link that then.
Citizen Rules
04-03-17, 03:08 PM
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1680724#post1680724)
Gideon, what did you think of Lucie Arnaz in The Jazz Singer?
...You just really want to find someone who hated her as much as you did, don't you? :p
Ha:D, that made me laugh out loud...yup it's true too! I was really hoping Gideon hated Lucie:cool:
edarsenal
04-03-17, 08:58 PM
No you may not ask because that would spoil my reviews that I will write. :D (Although I am tempted to reveal them :)).
whoops, thought you had written them
I will wait
;)
gbgoodies
04-04-17, 01:56 AM
By the way, gbgoodies, would you like me to just consider your comments about Get Him to the Greek as your review for your film? I'll just link that then.
Yes, that's good. I'm terrible at these write-ups because it's usually hard for me to get my thoughts down on paper, so that's probably the best that I'll be able to write for that movie.
Citizen Rules
04-04-17, 01:37 PM
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Coal Miner's Daughter (1980)
I liked this and I really thought Sissy Spacek was special. She made her character come alive and that's so important in a bio pic. A lot of bio pics fail to make the historical character seem real to the audience, Sissy was very real in this. So I'm not surprised to learn that she won an Oscar for Best Actress in a Leading Role for Coal Miner's Daughter. Sissy makes the movie!
However I did not care for Tommy Lee Jones in this and I don't mean because his character 'Doo' was an ass. The actor himself is too much of a caricature and the bad hair dye job, didn't help. Tommy Lee Jones 'tears up the scenery' he's just too much in the film and overshadows the more finely honed performance of Sissy Spacek. I wish they would have cast someone else. A young at the time, Peter Fonda would have made a better choice.
This was filmed on location in Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia and so looked great, especially the first part of the film in the hills of Kentucky. I thought it strange however, that when 'Doo' goes off to Washington to work as a logger...but there's no big trees in D.C....then in the bar scene where Loretta first sings, I noticed they were drinking Olympia beer, which was a local beer here in my home state, then I realized they were in Washington state! Very cool, I didn't know Loretta Lynn got her start here.
Twice I noticed the director showed old vintage cars and off to the side of the shot you can clearly see 1970s cars. That was big mistake on the directors part. And I think the film slowed down after she starting touring. I liked the first part of the film much better.
Like I said, I enjoyed this for the story of Loretta Lynn...I had never heard any of her songs until I seen this movie. Good movie.
Gideon58
04-04-17, 04:55 PM
The School of Rock
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Just finished re-watching School of Rock. It's been at least three years since my last watch.
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Jack Black is definitely an acquired taste, but another perfect marriage of actor and character was created here in Dewey Finn, an unemployed rock and roll wanna-be who accepts a job as a substitute teacher at an expensive prep school under false pretenses and upon arrival, decides to form a rock band out of the students when he happens to overhear them in their music class.
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In terms of surprises or cinematic invention, this provides absolutely nothing, but in terms of pure entertainment, including some genuine belly laughs and moments of genuine warmth, this movie knocks it out of the park. The Pied Piper effect that Dewey has over these kids is so much fun to watch. I loved watching Dewey bring certain kids out of their shells and putting egos of other kids in check, not to mention his effect on the school's tightly wound principal, beautifully played by Joan Cusack.
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This movie was pure entertainment from start to finish...the group's final performance at the Battle of the Bands was awesome and was the lead-in to a very smooth and satisfying conclusion. This was one of my favorite re-watches so far and I don't remember what I rated this when I reviewed this on my review thread, but I'm giving it 3.5. :D:D:D
SilentVamp
04-04-17, 05:18 PM
whoops, thought you had written them
I will wait
;)
You've only experienced one HoF with me, haven't you? So did you, perhaps, think that what I did in the 12th - in regards to when I posted my reviews/thoughts - was because I started later than everyone else? Oh, no. I do that no matter what. I watch everything. I finish pretty fast. But then I am really lazy when it comes to actually writing something. But they are coming. They are definitely coming. Eventually. :D
Yes, that's good. I'm terrible at these write-ups because it's usually hard for me to get my thoughts down on paper, so that's probably the best that I'll be able to write for that movie.
Done. :)
Hi Guys!
I just gave this rant on the Musical Hof, but I'd like to say it here too. Sorry for being gone so long from this thread. It's been hecktick at work and I've been trying to get another HoF done before its deadline. I'm done with that now and will hunker down and get to watching the movies here now. I'll get at least one or two reviews up before the week is up, just to show that I'm actually going to participate, but if you're still unsure of me, then feel free to wait with my noms until later in the HoF or until I've got a few reviews up. I am looking forward to these movies, though, so I'd say there's little to no chance I'm not finishing (barring unforseen events). See you in a few.
SilentVamp
04-04-17, 07:07 PM
Clazor I believe you can finish this. And not only that, you have until July 2nd to finish. So it isn't like there is any rush to finish anytime soon. It is just good to hear that you still want to be a part of this. :)
Gideon58
04-04-17, 07:41 PM
SWEET DREAMS
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Just completed my re-watch of the richly entertaining 1985 biopic of country and western legend who, at the height of her career in the early 1960's, was killed in a tragic plane crash.
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The film follows the typical biopic route from humble beginnings to her brief but shining success, not to mention her turbulent marriage to Charlie Dick.
Even though the film does follow the typical biopic route, it does some subtle variations on the classic themes of showbiz biopics. I love the way this film quietly addresses the fact that Charlie, though he loved Patsy, secretly resented being "Mr. Patsy Cline", but this film does it in a more subtle way than most biopics. What results here is one of the most realistic depictions of a show business marriage that I have ever seen...according to Robert Getchell's screenplay, Charlie and Patsy loved hard and fought hard and despite everything they went through, the love between these two is never in question no matter what happens between them here.
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What this film has above everything else is a powerhouse performance from Jessica Lange as Patsy Cline, that earned the actress an Oscar nomination...Lange drives home the passion and ambition of this character. Lange's performance is raw and vivid and terribly funny. Another reason I love this movie and this performance is Lange's lip-synching to original Patsy recordings. Patsy's voice was like caramel and honey and there was no other like it and using original recordings was a no-brainer, but Jessica Lange does the best job I have ever seen of an actor lip-synching to someone else'voice. She nails the mouth positions that are required for a singer to produce particular vowel sounds and someone who has never heard Patsy Cline could easily think Lange is doing her own singing here...she is that good, I've seen a lot of onscreen lip synching over the years, and NO ONE has done it better than Lange does here.
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Ed Harris has rarely been more sexy and charismatic as the loving but deeply flawed Charlie Dick, but don't get me wrong...Cline is not painted as a saint here, but the main difference between Patsy and Charlie is that Patsy speaks without filter during this story and never lies yet never lays the problems of their marriage completely at Charlies feet. Also loved Ann Wedgeworth as Patsy's warm but stern mother. A warm and entertaining film that pays proper respect to its subject.
edarsenal
04-05-17, 01:40 PM
You've only experienced one HoF with me, haven't you? So did you, perhaps, think that what I did in the 12th - in regards to when I posted my reviews/thoughts - was because I started later than everyone else? Oh, no. I do that no matter what. I watch everything. I finish pretty fast. But then I am really lazy when it comes to actually writing something. But they are coming. They are definitely coming. Eventually. :D
that makes sense, you did shoot them out with a passion near the end, I gotcha ya :)
wait a tick! :suspicious: That means I'll be waiting for quite some time --- :eek:
crap
just kidding, look forward to them WHENEVER they arrive ;):)
Citizen Rules I've heard about the same to Coal Miner's Daughter, I'm gonna try to pick it up this week at my library and possibly one or two others as well.
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