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SeeingisBelieving
02-10-17, 06:57 PM
I was thinking this week that if I was doing Doctor Who and had no limitations, I'd be asking Michael Shannon. I think he's a good fit for the character.
Unfortunately there are limitations :).
I read on facebook that Danny Dyer wants to be the new Doctor Who :lol:
I was thinking this week that if I was doing Doctor Who and had no limitations, I'd be asking Michael Shannon. I think he's a good fit for the character.
Unfortunately there are limitations :).Are they actually casting a new one? I tried to give this latest one a shot a few times but he's just missing that spark that makes a good Doctor.
Yes, Capaldi is leaving at Xmas.
Yes, Capaldi is leaving at Xmas.Oh good, nothing against the guy, but I just couldn't get into his run like I did with the previous ones.
I like that touch of manic insanity that Tennant and Smith brought to it. Even Eccleston was a little looser than the current.
SeeingisBelieving
02-11-17, 09:33 AM
I read on facebook that Danny Dyer wants to be the new Doctor Who :lol:
I think he should wear that pink dressing gown he had on in EastEnders this week :).
SeeingisBelieving
02-11-17, 09:47 AM
Are they actually casting a new one? I tried to give this latest one a shot a few times but he's just missing that spark that makes a good Doctor.
Oh good, nothing against the guy, but I just couldn't get into his run like I did with the previous ones.
I like that touch of manic insanity that Tennant and Smith brought to it. Even Eccleston was a little looser than the current.
Yeah, it's interesting because initially I quite liked what Capaldi was doing – I thought he was really good in Into the Dalek and never saw him match that performance since (that is, in the very few episodes I did see). I think in 'mellowing' his Doctor they've ended up just trying to make him like Smith and Tennant, which is quite annoying, for me at least.
I now find myself appreciating Christopher Eccleston a lot more than I did at the time, especially after his recent admittance that he would play the humour differently in retrospect. He was in theory a very good modern Doctor as well, with a great practical outfit. I just wish the Ninth Doctor had had a bit more intelligence and capability.
Nausicaä
02-11-17, 05:36 PM
Haven't enjoyed the Peter Capaldi run of series at all, so very very happy to see him go, bring on the new actor. I would like the next one to be younger than Capaldi but not too young - maybe 30s to early 40s.
But yes I would watch Danny Dyer in that pink flamingo robe as the Doctor. I can see him walking around the tardis like that swearing his head off, c*** this c*** that. Perfect. :D
Yeah, it's interesting because initially I quite liked what Capaldi was doing – I thought he was really good in Into the Dalek and never saw him match that performance since (that is, in the very few episodes I did see). I think in 'mellowing' his Doctor they've ended up just trying to make him like Smith and Tennant, which is quite annoying, for me at least.
I now find myself appreciating Christopher Eccleston a lot more than I did at the time, especially after his recent admittance that he would play the humour differently in retrospect. He was in theory a very good modern Doctor as well, with a great practical outfit. I just wish the Ninth Doctor had had a bit more intelligence and capability.Now I haven't seen every episode of the pre-Eccleston Doctors, but I DID try to watch a couple episodes out of each of their runs, and some of them acted like they had a stick firmly implanted in their bums and if they cracked a smile their face would collapse. I think I much prefer the cat in the hat vibe with that touch of insanity that Tennant and Smith brought to the role.
And Seeing Capaldi playing an electric guitar while wearing "Sonic Sunglasses" really hit a "My grandad's having a late life crisis" vibe.
Plus I just didn't see any chemistry with Jenna Coleman. the majority of the time they seemed to hate each other.
SeeingisBelieving
02-11-17, 05:56 PM
Haven't enjoyed the Peter Capaldi run of series at all, so very very happy to see him go, bring on the new actor. I would like the next one to be younger than Capaldi but not too young - maybe 30s to early 40s.
But yes I would watch Danny Dyer in that pink flamingo robe as the Doctor. I can see him walking around the tardis like that swearing his head off, c*** this c*** that. Perfect. :D
I'm not sure but maybe that was the problem with Capaldi, that his sweary, aggressive The Thick of It character Malcolm Tucker was so good and so memorable that it's hard to see him as any other.
I'm not sure but maybe that was the problem with Capaldi, that his sweary, aggressive The Thick of It character Malcolm Tucker was so good and so memorable that it's hard to see him as any other.To be honest this is the first role I've seen Capaldi in so there was no preconceived image clouding my view of his take on the doctor besides he just didn't seem to measure up to his predecessors.
SeeingisBelieving
02-11-17, 06:07 PM
To be honest this is the first role I've seen Capaldi in so there was no preconceived image clouding my view of his take on the doctor besides he just didn't seem to measure up to his predecessors.
He's an excellent actor; really good. He was very good in Torchwood: Children of Earth for starters.
Now I haven't seen every episode of the pre-Eccleston Doctors, but I DID try to watch a couple episodes out of each of their runs, and some of them acted like they had a stick firmly implanted in their bums and if they cracked a smile their face would collapse. I think I much prefer the cat in the hat vibe with that touch of insanity that Tennant and Smith brought to the role.
Patrick Troughton started that in earnest, so it's not surprising that actors like McCoy, Colin Baker, Davison, Eccleston, Smith refer back to him as their favourite.
And Seeing Capaldi playing an electric guitar while wearing "Sonic Sunglasses" really hit a "My grandad's having a late life crisis" vibe.
Yeah, apparently they were going for an ageing rocker thing after the event. I don't like it when they decide on one way of doing the character and then backpeddle. It comes over like they saw the audiences were getting itchy twitchy and had to make changes – from what I've read this is marketed as a 'natural progression' but it just comes over as overkill to me — and I haven't even seen the episode :D:cool:.
Plus I just didn't see any chemistry with Jenna Coleman. the majority of the time they seemed to hate each other.
I'm glad you've said that because I thought the same thing. The bits and pieces I saw of her with Smith looked good, as if they had quite good chemistry. Obviously Clara was supposed to be very uneasy with the Twelfth Doctor but offscreen I reckoned that the actors weren't particularly comfortable together, and if that's the case it's a shame.
It will be interesting to see how Pearl Mackie gets on with the Thirteenth Doctor compared to Coleman and Capaldi – at least from our perspective.
He's an excellent actor; really good. He was very good in Torchwood: Children of Earth for starters.
I'm glad you've said that because I thought the same thing. The bits and pieces I saw of her with Smith looked good, as if they had quite good chemistry. Obviously Clara was supposed to be very uneasy with the Twelfth Doctor but offscreen I reckoned that the actors weren't particularly comfortable together, and if that's the case it's a shame.
It will be interesting to see how Pearl Mackie gets on with the Thirteenth Doctor compared to Coleman and Capaldi – at least from our perspective.Okay if he was in Torchwood then I've seen him, but my statement stands as I don't remember him from that so I still had no preconceived image of him as another character...
And From an in-show standpoint I can see WHY Clara never warmed up to him, they can claim "Same person in a new skin" all they want but the difference between Smith and Capaldi is night and day... I can't in a million years picture Capaldi downing a bowl of custard with fish sticks... or even being a fraction as manic as Smith got... he just seemed tired. he was an entirely different entity through and through. a complete stranger to Clara where the previous ones had some air of familiarity to them... you could almost see Tennant peering out of Smith's introduction performance.
I had to check my Netflix, and apparently I HAVE watched his entire run, but they were so memorable, I only remember a couple and even then, more specific scenes than the actual episodes.
SeeingisBelieving
02-11-17, 06:30 PM
Okay if he was in Torchwood then I've seen him, but my statement stands as I don't remember him from that so I still had no preconceived image of him as another character...
Yeah, you've not seen his "defining" role, like if you'd not seen Jon Pertwee as Worzel Gummidge :p.
And From an in-show standpoint I can see WHY Clara never warmed up to him, they can claim "Same person in a new skin" all they want but the difference between Smith and Capaldi is night and day... I can't in a million years picture Capaldi downing a bowl of custard with fish sticks... or even being a fraction as manic as Smith got... he just seemed tired. he was an entirely different entity through and through. a complete stranger to Clara where the previous ones had some air of familiarity to them... you could almost see Tennant peering out of Smith's introduction performance.
I think that was intentional as well. Some of the dialogue's a bit like Tennant's as I recall, but even in the Angels two-parter there were lines that could have been spoken by the Tenth Doctor. Smith was really good though, and very fresh in a lot of ways at the time. He's my favourite of the new series actors so far.
Yeah, you've not seen his "defining" role, like if you'd not seen Jon Pertwee as Worzel Gummidge :p.
I think that was intentional as well. Some of the dialogue's a bit like Tennant's as I recall, but even in the Angels two-parter there were lines that could have been spoken by the Tenth Doctor. Smith was really good though, and very fresh in a lot of ways at the time. He's my favourite of the new series actors so far.Forgot he also had a part in that Pompeii episode, but again, that just occured to me so...
I thought part of it might just be "You liked the old Doctor, refuse to like the new one" but honestly, I got over that real fast, Eccleston was the Doctor and when he left I bristled against tennant for a couple episodes but then realized, "Hey... this guys like a LOT better..." so when tennant left, I tried to keep that same mindset of "Old ones out, let's enjoy the new one.. and stop crying, tennant saying "But I don't want to go" wasn't THAT bad..." and sure enough, loved Smith out the door, so STILL trying to keep that same mindset, landed on Capaldi's version and was like "okay this sucks.." and several episodes in was still saying it, end of the season still saying it... and I don't know how much of it is Capaldi's performance or Moffat getting tired or writing because good performance or bad, there were a LOT of outright bad and forgettable episodes in his run.
SeeingisBelieving
02-12-17, 11:34 AM
I thought part of it might just be "You liked the old Doctor, refuse to like the new one" but honestly, I got over that real fast, Eccleston was the Doctor and when he left I bristled against tennant for a couple episodes but then realized, "Hey... this guys like a LOT better..." so when tennant left, I tried to keep that same mindset of "Old ones out, let's enjoy the new one.. and stop crying, tennant saying "But I don't want to go" wasn't THAT bad..." and sure enough, loved Smith out the door, so STILL trying to keep that same mindset, landed on Capaldi's version and was like "okay this sucks.." and several episodes in was still saying it, end of the season still saying it... and I don't know how much of it is Capaldi's performance or Moffat getting tired or writing because good performance or bad, there were a LOT of outright bad and forgettable episodes in his run.
Moffat made scenes longer as well didn't he? There was less darting about from one thing to another so maybe that was a factor in it seeming tired? I feel like a big difference from Eccleston to Tennant was that Tennant seemed to have a lot more dialogue, especially technobabble, and he was completely at home with delivering it, and with the pace of the series.
Moffat made scenes longer as well didn't he? There was less darting about from one thing to another so maybe that was a factor in it seeming tired? I feel like a big difference from Eccleston to Tennant was that Tennant seemed to have a lot more dialogue, especially technobabble, and he was completely at home with delivering it, and with the pace of the series.I'm not sure, I know he got in a repeating rut this season with "Uh Oh the Doctors in the worst straights imaginable, no way out, oh wait, cue the music, he hops up and starts babbling about being right where he wanted to be all along, never any danger, blah blah blah" they did that so many times on Capaldi's run if it were a drinking game I would have died.
Moffat seemed to be recycling the same premise tired of originality, and Capaldi just seemed tired delivering his lines.
And the stories just weren't that interesting to be honest. there was one where they kept the Doctor in a repeating time loop for like 12 billion years and by the end of it, I felt like they had me that long too...
And I hated Maisly Williams added part on the show... grabbing her between seasons of Game of Thrones just to make her a huge deal in the overall Dr. Who lore as an immortal and all I'm thinking is... she's just a kid.. you realize next year she's not going to be able to pull off the role assuming you can even get her that often...
SeeingisBelieving
02-12-17, 02:47 PM
I'm not sure, I know he got in a repeating rut this season with "Uh Oh the Doctors in the worst straights imaginable, no way out, oh wait, cue the music, he hops up and starts babbling about being right where he wanted to be all along, never any danger, blah blah blah" they did that so many times on Capaldi's run if it were a drinking game I would have died.
Moffat seemed to be recycling the same premise tired of originality, and Capaldi just seemed tired delivering his lines.
Mm. It's like 'if in doubt keep spieling" :).
And the stories just weren't that interesting to be honest. there was one where they kept the Doctor in a repeating time loop for like 12 billion years and by the end of it, I felt like they had me that long too...
I saw most of that. What's funny is that Doctor Who rarely used time travel 'predicaments' such as time paradoxes, time loops etc and then Steven Moffat went for them like a man possessed. The result seems to be that he's put many fans off the show using time-related plots.
And I hated Maisly Williams added part on the show... grabbing her between seasons of Game of Thrones just to make her a huge deal in the overall Dr. Who lore as an immortal and all I'm thinking is... she's just a kid.. you realize next year she's not going to be able to pull off the role assuming you can even get her that often...
Yeah, I saw a bit of her in Face the Raven. She's very good but I didn't think she was able to put enough into the character, especially the immortality aspect. It seemed a very poor creation anyway though.
Mm. It's like 'if in doubt keep spieling" :).
I saw most of that. What's funny is that Doctor Who rarely used time travel 'predicaments' such as time paradoxes, time loops etc and then Steven Moffat went for them like a man possessed. The result seems to be that he's put many fans off the show using time-related plots. It wasn't even really that original.. as soon as I saw the skulls I was like "Ooooooh kay they're all him.. so when they finally do the "reveal" I'm bored thinking "Oh good the show caught up..."
Yeah, I saw a bit of her in Face the Raven. She's very good but I didn't think she was able to put enough into the character, especially the immortality aspect. It seemed a very poor creation anyway though.Oh yeah love her as an actress, she's amazing on GoT... I just didn't like the forced feeling of casting her into some instant part that becomes a huge part of Who canon.and again, odds are she's already aged enough she couldn't play the part again.
SeeingisBelieving
02-12-17, 05:29 PM
Oh yeah love her as an actress, she's amazing on GoT... I just didn't like the forced feeling of casting her into some instant part that becomes a huge part of Who canon.and again, odds are she's already aged enough she couldn't play the part again.
I do feel like Steven Moffat has created a glut of characters who are supposed to have a huge impact in the series but are pretty hard to like. Out of all of them River Song is the one I hate most :p:).
DalekbusterScreen5
02-12-17, 05:33 PM
My choice this time round would go to Olivia Colman. I believe now is the right time for a female Doctor with all the groundwork that's been laid for it in Moffat's era. Olivia Colman also has that naturally quirky look to her that Steven Moffat calls 'unconventionally attractive'.
I do feel like Steven Moffat has created a glut of characters who are supposed to have a huge impact in the series but are pretty hard to like. Out of all of them River Song is the one I hate most :p:).Oh yeah 100% agree there...I'm also getting a bit tired of every companion having to have some title or some huge effect like "The girl who waited" or "The Impossible Girl".... (Even though Karen Gilian will always be my #1 fave....)
He tries to expand at a crazy rate to fill in lore that should be doled out slowly.
My choice this time round would go to Olivia Colman. I believe now is the right time for a female Doctor with all the groundwork that's been laid for it in Moffat's era. Olivia Colman also has that naturally quirky look to her that Steven Moffat calls 'unconventionally attractive'.
I'd rather blow my brains out.
SeeingisBelieving
02-13-17, 12:10 PM
Oh yeah 100% agree there...I'm also getting a bit tired of every companion having to have some title or some huge effect like "The girl who waited" or "The Impossible Girl".... (Even though Karen Gilian will always be my #1 fave....)
He tries to expand at a crazy rate to fill in lore that should be doled out slowly.
Definitely – a bit like the way his Doctors had to be the longest-lived of all of the incarnations. I think Smith's was a couple of thousand years and Capaldi's is basically in the billions I suppose after Heaven Sent. The poor Sixth Doctor only lasted about 53 years :).
Karen Gillan was great, in spite of some of the writing, and I think that's true of loads of actors who've been in the new series.
SeeingisBelieving
02-13-17, 12:14 PM
My choice this time round would go to Olivia Colman. I believe now is the right time for a female Doctor with all the groundwork that's been laid for it in Moffat's era. Olivia Colman also has that naturally quirky look to her that Steven Moffat calls 'unconventionally attractive'.
He's such a charmer isn't he :rolleyes::cool:?
I'd rather blow my brains out.
At the suggestion of a female Doctor or of Olivia Colman as the Doctor?
I've always been against the move, but it doesn't stop me thinking about actresses that fit the bill. Tamsin Greig, years ago, would have been excellent. I like Vicky McClure as well – really interesting face. Don't know her work very well though.
Nausicaä
02-13-17, 05:57 PM
The only person I want if they decide to go the female Doctor route is Tilda Swinton. But for me the Doctor is played by someone from the male species and always should be unless Tilda Swinton comes along... 'Long live the Doctor'. ;)
SeeingisBelieving
02-13-17, 06:40 PM
The only person I want if they decide to go the female Doctor route is Tilda Swinton. But for me the Doctor is played by someone from the male species and always should be unless Tilda Swinton comes along... 'Long live the Doctor'. ;)
The only thing with Tilda Swinton is that she's so associated with androgynous characters. I mean Orlando, Gabriel, the Ancient One are the ones I know but there could be more. I feel like that quality might not be so useful in this case. The difficulty is that there's been such a carefree attitude to the idea of Time Lords changing sex between incarnations without delving into the reasons why.
I feel like an androgynous actor would mistakenly signal that that is what the Doctor is, rather than the more alien notion that Time Lords probably no longer have a gender to speak of and just inhabit their different bodies whatever sex the body may be. It seemed likely to me over the years that as soon as the Time Lords invented regeneration their normal reproductive cycle would have dulled and become obsolete over the millions of years they've been around. So by the Doctor's time it's completely redundant, and explains his general lack of interest in it :).
DalekbusterScreen5
02-14-17, 02:13 PM
He's such a charmer isn't he :rolleyes::cool:?
He's right though. You don't want anybody too attractive for the role of the Doctor. It needs to be someone with a slightly odd look to them. Even if you look at Peter Davison he didn't (and still doesn't) have the kind of look you'd expect fangirls to swoon for.
I've always been against the move, but it doesn't stop me thinking about actresses that fit the bill. Tamsin Greig, years ago, would have been excellent. I like Vicky McClure as well – really interesting face. Don't know her work very well though.
Hayley Atwell would be great. There's fan pictures of what she'd look like as the Doctor and she'd look perfect.
The only person I want if they decide to go the female Doctor route is Tilda Swinton. But for me the Doctor is played by someone from the male species and always should be unless Tilda Swinton comes along... 'Long live the Doctor'. ;)
Yeah, I think Tilda Swinton could do a good job. Probably too busy though.
SeeingisBelieving
02-14-17, 04:37 PM
He's right though. You don't want anybody too attractive for the role of the Doctor. It needs to be someone with a slightly odd look to them. Even if you look at Peter Davison he didn't (and still doesn't) have the kind of look you'd expect fangirls to swoon for.
I don't know though, I'd have thought Davison was pretty conventionally good looking at the time, as was Colin Baker around his The Brothers phase.
Paul McGann's usually considered to be the best looking of the lot, but he also had, and still has, a very unusual look, particularly his eyes. I wonder whether that's partly due to his insomnia? :).
Chypmunk
02-14-17, 04:41 PM
I'd kinda like Ann Widdecombe to get the gig, just for a one-off special. Only problem is I can't think of a single adversary that would be brave/stupid enough to take her on :D
Am not being entirely serious so don't bite my head off - it would be a fun episode though imo.
SeeingisBelieving
02-14-17, 05:02 PM
I'll tell you who I was thinking of for each new Doctor of the new series:
2005 – Bill Nighy. He was actually announced in one newspaper as having been cast, but that was a mistake. In retrospect, I'd have preferred him to Christopher Eccleston.
Post-Eccleston – David Tennant because there was really nobody else who was better suited at that moment.
Post-Tennant – I was thinking Paddy Considine (who apparently wasn't interested); Tom Hardy (whose film career would have made it impossible). In the end I was really happy with Matt Smith, who I didn't know.
Post-Smith – Idris Elba sounded good, but no firm ideas.
DalekbusterScreen5
02-14-17, 06:20 PM
I don't know though, I'd have thought Davison was pretty conventionally good looking at the time, as was Colin Baker around his The Brothers phase.
Paul McGann's usually considered to be the best looking of the lot, but he also had, and still has, a very unusual look, particularly his eyes.
I see what you mean about Paul McGann. His eyes look very alien. I'd say the same about Matt Smith's too - for a young actor he has very ancient eyes.
SeeingisBelieving
02-14-17, 06:30 PM
I see what you mean about Paul McGann. His eyes look very alien. I'd say the same about Matt Smith's too - for a young actor he has very ancient eyes.
I remember at the time McGann was cast Philip Segal was saying that "he looks like an alien" and it's certainly, partly, down to that 'stare' he has. I'm not sure his brothers have exactly the same intensity, and Mark of course auditioned before Paul.
I still like Smith and it's a shame I didn't get to see his full run really. I think he's a really good actor and I appreciate the way he played the Doctor. He always pitched it exactly right.
DalekbusterScreen5
02-14-17, 08:17 PM
I remember at the time McGann was cast Philip Segal was saying that "he looks like an alien" and it's certainly, partly, down to that 'stare' he has. I'm not sure his brothers have exactly the same intensity, and Mark of course auditioned before Paul.
I still like Smith and it's a shame I didn't get to see his full run really. I think he's a really good actor and I appreciate the way he played the Doctor. He always pitched it exactly right.
It helps that he basically just plays the Doctor as himself, given he already has a natural quirkiness to him. Like Tom Baker in that regard.
I'll tell you who I was thinking of for each new Doctor of the new series:
Post-Smith – Idris Elba sounded good, but no firm ideas.
I don't need every Doctor to be as quirky as tennant or Smith, even though I love that take, but even the serious ones need to be able to pull off that side every now and then to sell the whole "Same guy, new skin" approach...Idris Elba has always struck me as very serious and I can't imagine him playing that crazed cat in the hat type either...
SeeingisBelieving
02-15-17, 07:43 AM
It helps that he basically just plays the Doctor as himself, given he already has a natural quirkiness to him. Like Tom Baker in that regard.
Yeah, exactly. The beauty of Smith was that, on a very basic level, all he had to do was turn up :). Other actors like Patrick Troughton and William Hartnell were really good at playing certain eccentricities, even if they themselves weren't like that.
I don't need every Doctor to be as quirky as tennant or Smith, even though I love that take, but even the serious ones need to be able to pull off that side every now and then to sell the whole "Same guy, new skin" approach...Idris Elba has always struck me as very serious and I can't imagine him playing that crazed cat in the hat type either...
He might not be off-the-wall in that way but there are different kinds of humour that would work – I'm just thinking of him in Prometheus for example. In fact one of the issues that Christopher Eccleston had was that the comedic moments didn't really suit him – one of the best bits was at the end of Dalek, where Rose says that Adam has "always wanted to see the stars". The Doctor, noncommittal, replies "Tell him to go and stand outside then". That's more the tone that I think suited Eccleston and it's a pity they couldn't have gone for it more, instead of all that forced grinning and larking about.
DalekbusterScreen5
02-15-17, 09:29 AM
Yeah, exactly. The beauty of Smith was that, on a very basic level, all he had to do was turn up :). Other actors like Patrick Troughton and William Hartnell were really good at playing certain eccentricities, even if they themselves weren't like that.
It'll be interesting to see how Matt Smith works in Big Finish audios - because I'm sure he'll do them eventually. Audio only may lose some of his Doctor's natural quirks.
The Doctor, noncommittal, replies "Tell him to go and stand outside then". That's more the tone that I think suited Eccleston and it's a pity they couldn't have gone for it more, instead of all that forced grinning and larking about.
That was a great line. It reminds me of the 12th Doctor's line in Into The Dalek too, when he introduces Clara as his 'carer'. 'She cares so I don't have to'.
SeeingisBelieving
02-15-17, 04:27 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Matt Smith works in Big Finish audios - because I'm sure he'll do them eventually. Audio only may lose some of his Doctor's natural quirks.
I'm not so sure because he has a really good voice. I remember when he was cast he was doing the voiceover on an American Express advert and the amount of character and interest he put in was great. This became even more apparent when David Tennant replaced him, soon after, doing the same dialogue. It just didn't have the same spark.
That was a great line. It reminds me of the 12th Doctor's line in Into The Dalek too, when he introduces Clara as his 'carer'. 'She cares so I don't have to'.
Yeah, it's similar. I think the difference is that the Twelfth Doctor means it :p:).
SeeingisBelieving
02-16-17, 03:54 PM
Post-Smith – Idris Elba sounded good, but no firm ideas.
Actually I forgot one – Toby Stephens was somebody who I thought would be good. The thing with him is he's played a lot of really horrible characters over the years but it amuses me to think of him carrying some of those qualities over into a character that you're rooting for :). I think he was just about to start doing Black Sails when Capaldi was cast, and I suppose now he'll be busy with Lost in Space.
Cause massive controversy and bring back Tennant. He was one of the most charismatic Doctors in history and would cause a massive wave of stink and joy for the fans.
SeeingisBelieving
02-17-17, 07:26 AM
Cause massive controversy and bring back Tennant. He was one of the most charismatic Doctors in history and would cause a massive wave of stink and joy for the fans.
Stink and Joy :p;). You've really caught the zeitgeist there.
Any more suggestions? Man, woman or beast :D?
I would prefer a younger doctor again. Gives a little more freedom in action. What's the Charlie bit my finger kid doing these days? He has the emotional range for the doctor.
SeeingisBelieving
02-17-17, 07:57 AM
I would prefer a younger doctor again. Gives a little more freedom in action.
Yeah, I think that will happen this time. Mid-30s probably.
I'm a very recent dr who fan been binging them on Netflix for a few months. I have been skeptical on pretty much all the incoming doctors and with five episodes I've been sold, I completely expect the same thing to happen again
SeeingisBelieving
02-17-17, 05:52 PM
I'm a very recent dr who fan been binging them on Netflix for a few months. I have been skeptical on pretty much all the incoming doctors and with five episodes I've been sold, I completely expect the same thing to happen again
I think what's really interesting is how certain Doctors evolved during their time on the show. I mean Peter Davison's an unusual example because all of his early stories were filmed out of order. I think Castrovalva, broadcast first, was made fourth, with Four to Doomsday being the first one he filmed. He's so different in that story to how he is later and it must have been very peculiar to see second in the season.
Patrick Troughton's very different in his initial few stories and gets more and more comedic as time goes on. Tom Baker has roughly four different styles during his 7 years. I liked both of them as they were right at the beginning and it proved exactly the same with Peter Capaldi.
Nausicaä
04-16-17, 06:21 PM
Humm, so Kris Marshall's name seems to keep coming up as the next replacement and 'has actually got the part'. Do you think it's true?
This is him for those who don't know the actor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNwBMlWiGY0
SeeingisBelieving
04-16-17, 06:24 PM
Not really. His name has cropped up before and I don't think it would be the most exciting choice in the world.
I'm not a Who fan and I dont know who he is but I've seen this trending on fb this morning.
Nausicaä
07-14-17, 06:23 PM
For those who don't know yet, the new Doctor is revealed on Sunday here in Britain after the Wimbledon finals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZx4P6u3rzU
Apparently it's 'rumoured' to be between two people - Kris Marshall, and Jodie Whittaker.
Jodie Whittaker:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/11/article-1277458-09587046000005DC-864_468x420.jpg
SeeingisBelieving
07-15-17, 07:19 AM
Apparently it's 'rumoured' to be between two people - Kris Marshall, and Jodie Whittaker.
Jodie Whittaker
So I understand. James D'Arcy was getting a mention yesterday as well. There's a lot of interest around the actors that appeared in Broadchurch obviously – maybe they should give that David Tennant fella a go.
Thursday Next
07-15-17, 10:59 AM
Impossible I suppose in the age of internet spoilers, but I would have liked for the new doctor just to appear in the show when the regeneration happens, not to be announced months before.
SeeingisBelieving
07-15-17, 11:07 AM
Impossible I suppose in the age of internet spoilers, but I would have liked for the new doctor just to appear in the show when the regeneration happens, not to be announced months before.
Yeah, it needs to happen like that one day. They could have done it with Christopher Eccleston had the BBC not caused him to leave the series. As it was I think we were told around the broadcast of The End of the World that he was only doing one season and fans went ballistic.
Nausicaä
07-15-17, 07:12 PM
maybe they should give that David Tennant fella a go.
I'd prefer him back over Kris Marshall. James D'Arcy could be interesting. :)
It's not possible with the way things have gone. The new series starts filming in November, so there's no way they could keep it quiet till Xmas.
SeeingisBelieving
07-16-17, 07:45 AM
James D'Arcy could be interesting. :)
I remember him being very good in a Colin Baker "Lost Story", Paradise 5. He was alongside Alex Macqueen, who later played the Master in the Big Finish Audios. They're excellent stories those, and the Sixth Doctor benefited from so many unmade scripts that could be turned into audio productions.
SeeingisBelieving
07-16-17, 04:06 PM
The Thirteenth Doctor is Jodie Whittaker
Thursday Next
07-16-17, 05:17 PM
Not hugely excited about that choice, but I was proven wrong when they cast Catherine Tate so I'll reserve judgement until we see her in action.
Nausicaä
07-16-17, 05:24 PM
^ I adored Catherine Tate in the companion role and also wasn't keen on the choice of her at first.
Even though I said I'd rather have a man playing the role, I'm actually very happy it's ended up not being Kris Marshall and it's gone to her. Jodie Whittaker is an excellent actress and with news they are going in a different direction script/tone wise, I'm looking forwards to the new series immensely. Be interesting to see if they let her keep her 'Yorkshire' accent or change the accent like they did with David Tennant. :D
For those who haven't seen it, here's the reveal sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IczjLYCIM
Thursday Next
07-16-17, 05:27 PM
Be interesting to see if they let her keep her 'Yorkshire' accent or change the accent like they did with David Tennant. :D
Lots of planets have a North. But do they also have a Yorkshire? :D
The Thirteenth Doctor is Jodie Whittaker
And some people are losing their mind. Personally, I'm interested to see how it goes. Something tells me she'll do just fine.
Unless a riot breaks out and they start demanding a gender swap of the gender swap.
Chypmunk
07-16-17, 06:54 PM
In my opinion Kris Marshall would have been awful in the role so almost anybody else is fine by me.
And some people are losing their mind. Personally, I'm interested to see how it goes. Something tells me she'll do just fine.
Unless a riot breaks out and they start demanding a gender swap of the gender swap.
Ha. I was just coming in to ask if people were freaking out about this. Not a Dr Who fan but would probably check this out for a bit just to see what they do with it.
Nausicaä
07-16-17, 07:31 PM
And some people are losing their mind. Personally, I'm interested to see how it goes. Something tells me she'll do just fine.
So far it seems pretty mellow from what I've seen, it hasn't gone the way of say the all female Ghostbusters when it comes to the hate. Seems to be a minority that are having hissy fits over it. :scream:
It does actually look like the hate would have come if Kris Marshall was cast, apparently a lot of Doctor Who fans absolutely hated that rumour and were worrying that he had got the role.
I've Been a fan for nearly 14 years (Have seen every existing story both out of order and as one big marathon, And I've sat through photo reconstructions of most of the missing ones...) and at this point with them changing Showrunners I Was very apprehensive about a Female Doctor...I thought it would be too big a risk in terms of turning the show around and that it would come across as cheap to do it right off the bat because it would imply they didnt have faith in there production and would need a gimmick to make it fly. as each Showrunner at this point usually gets 2 doctors in there tenure I was thinking that the 13th should be a more traditional option and then the 14th would be brilliant as a female role because as a viewer I'd be settled into the style and tone they were deciding to go for allowing them to subvert my expectations and take there style from a different angle...
tonight to me has very much come across as stunt casting...and I think thats not going to end very well...I was trying to keep my head up and was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt but at this point the absolutely vile comments I've read from quite large swathe of the "Who" fan community who have equated anything less than 100% getting behind the idea that the Doctor should be female as deep routed mysoginy and sexism has pretty much killed any enthusiasm I could have for this its just sucked the fun right out of the concept...
I didnt want to think this was being made to be a political thing but people have seemingly decided to make it so...and because I dont belong to either the "Just say no to a female doctor" or the "The Doctor should have always been female if you dont agree you might as well be a woman beater" groups Im honestly considering just sitting her time out and catching up once shes gone...there are audio adventures that run into the hundreds that I havent listened to from Big finish so I wouldnt exactly be going cold turkey...this whole thing just erupted into a hot mess and Im not going to pick a side... (Sorry for the mini rant...its been a long day and I need a lie down) xD
Thursday Next
07-17-17, 08:46 AM
I think a lot will depend on how the new series is written. I hope that this new regeneration provides the show with a - well, regeneration. This latest season was quite good (the episode before last one of the best in a long long time), and Bill was much better than I thought she would be, but I didn't even watch all the previous two seasons - and that's not down to any dislike of the casting. It just got too convoluted and a little dull, and made too much of its own mythology, all the time. I'm not a Moffat-hater by any means, I think he's a smart writer who has done a good job with two of the best shows on television over the last few years, but he does have a tendency to get a bit too carried away with his own cleverness and lose sight of the straight-forward fun. Capaldi is a good actor but his doctor was quite harsh compared to the previous three and the storylines more sombre.
Where it could go wrong would be in them insisting on making a joke out of the Doctor being a woman all the time, that would get tiresome. I also worry that all commentary and criticism will view the show in terms of her femaleness - e.g. if she's too capable people will complain (like when Rey was a bit good with a lightsaber), if she has to be saved by a male companion, it will be sexist etc. etc.
SeeingisBelieving
07-17-17, 09:04 AM
I also worry that all commentary and criticism will view the show in terms of her femaleness - e.g. if she's too capable people will complain (like when Rey was a bit good with a lightsaber)
I think that was more about the speed at which both she and Finn were able to cope with a trained Force-user; okay he was injured. Finn's skills are more in question but I liked the fact that Rey was so in touch with the Force that she was quite capable of matching Kylo Ren.
I've only seen one single episode of the entire series so I can't really comment, but unless the Doctor being male is essential to the character - like, his penis is some sort of key that unlocks a portal - I don't see why it matters? I think it's a valid concern that the writing might suffer, because yeah, it would suck if they make the whole female thing some overblown gimmick in the actual show. But no one really knows yet if that will happen, do they?
Chypmunk
07-17-17, 09:21 AM
I've only seen one single episode of the entire series so I can't really comment, but unless the Doctor being male is essential to the character - like, his penis is some sort of key that unlocks a portal - I don't see why it matters? I think it's a valid concern that the writing might suffer, because yeah, it would suck if they make the whole female thing some overblown gimmick in the actual show. But no one really knows yet if that will happen, do they?
It actually unlocks the Tardis but you were close enough ;)
why don't i believe you
:p
I'm certainly going to watch this just to see the internet implode. People are losing their poopies over this at the moment
https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/8/86/Terry_s_Photos-95.jpg
This is a lady by the name of Nancy Wake. The nazis called her 'The White Mouse' and she topped the gestapo's most wanted list of resistance fighters during World War II. She once cycled 500 km in 71 hours to deliver codes to the resistance saving thousands of lives. She once killed an SS officer with her bare hands so that he couldn't raise an alarm. And she once parachuted into France, got tangled in tree branches and when her French rescuer looked up and said "if only all the trees could bear such beautiful fruit" she replied "Don't give me any of that French ****". And upon being cut down successfully coordinated a 7000-strong resistance group of fighters against German positions.
So ...and I'm just going to put this out there... I think a woman can handle the f******* Tardis.
lool
SeeingisBelieving
07-17-17, 02:39 PM
I'm certainly going to watch this just to see the internet implode. People are losing their poopies over this at the moment
https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/8/86/Terry_s_Photos-95.jpg
This is a lady by the name of Nancy Wake. The nazis called her 'The White Mouse' and she topped the gestapo's most wanted list of resistance fighters during World War II. She once cycled 500 km in 71 hours to deliver codes to the resistance saving thousands of lives. She once killed an SS officer with her bare hands so that he couldn't raise an alarm. And she once parachuted into France, got tangled in tree branches and when her French rescuer looked up and said "if only all the trees could bear such beautiful fruit" she replied "Don't give me any of that French ****". And upon being cut down successfully coordinated a 7000-strong resistance group of fighters against German positions.
So ...and I'm just going to put this out there... I think a woman can handle the f******* Tardis.
lool
Where did you find that Dani?
Where did you find that Dani?
I saw the post on fb but mofo doesnt seem to like fb photos so I googled her photo and copied the text. Stunning photograph.
SeeingisBelieving
07-17-17, 02:43 PM
I saw the post on fb but mofo doesnt seem to like fb photos so I googled her photo and copied the text. Stunning photograph.
Yes it is.
:)
https://twitter.com/Jenny_Trout/status/886615696062459908
LOL. I thought she was crying.
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