The Gunslinger45's top 12 Biggest Film Disappointments

[The Gunslinger45]

Hello MoFo’s! It has been a while since I did a list. Now I have already done my favorite movies list (and updated it a few times). I have done my favorite directors, film scores, film openings; to non movie lists like my favorite video games and anime. Hell I got a thread about my favorite guns. Because what is a gunslinger without a list of his favorite firearms.

But I am going in a different direction this time. I have done the films that I love and adore. Now I want to a list about the movies that after viewing I turned my head to the sky and said… meh. These are not necessarily BAD movies (thought a few you could argue that). But these are the films that for one reason or another I was hyped to see, only to have them fall short. These are my TOP 12 Film Disappointments!

[Iroquois]

I'm already disappointed.

[The Gunslinger45]

I'm already disappointed.

Then stick around. I am sure to piss off more then a few people here.

[The Gunslinger45]

12. Fight Club / Oldboy

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WAIT!

Before you get the pitchforks out and start trying to burn my windmill, allow me to say this. These were disappointments yes,

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I SAID WAIT!

BUT they were so NOT BECAUSE OF THE FILMS THEMSELVES. They were disappointments because of SPOLIERS!

Allow me to explain. Both films revolve around a very prominent twist toward the end of their run times. And a REALLY good twist can really enhance a movie. But the twist needs to be a good one (see Hitchcock) and not lame (post 6th Sense Shyamalan). And if you spoil that twist, the movie suffers. At least for me it does.

Oldboy I had heard of but never seen. However I heard enough about it that I knew that one certain topic was a heavy theme of the flick. I also knew the movie had a twist ending. Add these two things together and I was able to figure out the twist pretty early in the movie. Now if I had gone in completely blind and without ANY knowledge of the film at all, I probably would have really liked the movie. But because I did not, the movie which is good really did not resonate with me. Now the fight scene in the hallway with the hammer is still great, the choreography is good, and the technical aspects are very good; but because of what I had known, the twist was not shocking as it should have been.

Fight Club fell into the same boat with one slight difference. My older brother was telling me about the movie and he flat out told me the twist. I heard this twist when I was in high school. But after my brother gave the twist ending away, I never bothered to see the movie until damn near a decade later when I joined MoFo. Still a good movie, but again it does nothing for me because the twist was ruined. I know a lot of people LOVE Fight Club and a lot of people like to say it is their favorite film, one of their favorite films, and I have talked to people who have said it was the movie that made them look at movies differently. Then again they probably saw the movie without knowing what the twist was. So thanks big bro for screwing that up for me.

[Roy C.]

I can think of way more than 12 disappointing films. One that made my top 10 just yesterday was Police Academy. I expected so much more, and was given so much less.

[Miss Vicky]

Fight Club

:tsk:

[Miss Vicky]

I can think of way more than 12 disappointing films. One that made my top 10 just yesterday was Police Academy. I expected so much more, and was given so much less.

You had high expectations of Police Academy? :confused:

[Roy C.]

You had high expectations of Police Academy? :confused:

I expected it to be another funny '80s comedy like Airplane, The Naked Gun, or even Weekend At Bernie's. But the humor was flat and plain silly. People have talked about it over the years, and it was a hit when I was in high school.

[cricket]

You know I consider both of those movies disappointments as well, even though I like them.

[Miss Vicky]

I expected it to be another funny '80s comedy like Airplane, The Naked Gun, or even Weekend At Bernie's. But the humor was flat and plain silly.

So... just like those other movies you listed, then?

[The Gunslinger45]

:tsk:

Don't blame me, blame my older brother!

[Roy C.]

So... just like those other movies you listed, then?

No.:skeptical: :rolleyes: The other movies were more clever...better written. In comparison to Police Academy that is.

[The Gunslinger45]

11. Suicide Squad

The most recent entry on this list. Now after I saw Man of Steel I was so pissed off I skipped seeing Dawn of Justice. Then again I had little hope for MoS in the first place after I saw the trailers. And for a guy who grew up watching ANY comic book movie from the Richard Donner Superman movie to both Reb Brown Captain America movies; when I skip a comic book movie it’s kinda a big deal. And the new DC movie universe got off to a terrible start. That being said when I heard they were making a Suicide Squad movie and the writer and director was David Ayer; I got interested. I love Ayer as a director. The man wrote Training Day, wrote the screenplay to SWAT, wrote and directed End of Watch, directed Street Kings, and directed Sabotage. I am a fan. So to see they guy get the shot at a comic book movie I was pumped. I became even MORE pumped after the trailers dropped. I thought to myself “Holy crap! I might actually see a good DCU movie!” I bought my ticket, saw it, and was really disappointed.

Now the acting I had no issues with. Well for the most part. The casting was very good, but holy CRAP was the writing bad. And this is David Ayer, I KNOW he writes good stuff. The man wrote Training Day! But the movie felt like it was on fast forward! The pace was break neck when it needed to slow down at times and establish this group as a collective unit and not just a pack of criminals shoved into a bad situation. I needed more character motivations, I DESPERATELY needed more back story on villains, I needed more back story on some of the team members, and I needed less tattoos on the Joker.

And why the hell is Amanda Waller so damn skinny in this movie? I blame the Nu 52 for this BS. In the Nu 52 reboot of the DC universe they made Amanda Waller; a smart, cunning, and ruthless FAT black woman into a skinny hot busty black woman. What the hell? We can’t have a government intelligence be a big girl? Look I ain’t a fragile crying SJW snowflake crying on Tumblr, but what was wrong with Amanda Waller being fat? Why change the character? The character was a damn good one. Why did we need to slim down Amanda Waller? Was it the artists thinking that to appeal to 13 year old boys they can’t have a fat character? Or would it because the character would be a unique figure be drawn and not just flat out traced. I don’t know but DC lost my business with that crappy reboot. Viola Davis is a great actor but she is just too damn skinny to be Waller. What the hell people?! Now I could go on about the Nu 52 and why it sucked, and how they messed up Jaime Reyes as the Blue Beetle, and why the hell Barbra Gordon can walk when The Killing Joke is still cannon, but that would take way too long.

The movie needed an extra 30 to 45 minutes to flesh out the story. And I can’t say that this was a new issue. Man of Steel was crammed with way too much story and not a lot of time, but that movie was around 2 hours and 30 minutes or so. This movie was closer to two hours. If they added an extra 30 minutes and added a few more scenes I think it would have really improved on the movie. But they didn’t and the movie just plain suffers for it. A+ in marketing, but a C- in execution of the movie.

[The Gunslinger45]

I can think of way more than 12 disappointing films. One that made my top 10 just yesterday was Police Academy. I expected so much more, and was given so much less.

Yeah but I don't want to do THAT many write ups. :p

[CiCi]

I still remember seeing the first teaser trailer for SS thinking it was going to be the comic book film to end them all. I have to admit, I liked the film, but I really thought it was going to be something terrific and great at one point when they advertised it as something dark that reflected the nature of the characters it depicted. Never mind.

I'm trying now not to get my hopes up too much for Wonder Woman :sick:

[Iroquois]

Then stick around. I am sure to piss off more then a few people here.

It's more the concept itself than any specific entries.

That being said, I'd argue against the idea that Fight Club "revolves around" its twist. Oldboy is set up to be a mystery from the beginning so its twists are naturally going to be integral to its plot in a way that those in Fight Club aren't.

[cricket]

Not interested in Suicide Squad at all.

[Roy C.]

It's more the concept itself than any specific entries.


Sometimes negative threads generate more discussion.

[The Gunslinger45]

It's more the concept itself than any specific entries.

That being said, I'd argue against the idea that Fight Club "revolves around" its twist. Oldboy is set up to be a mystery from the beginning so its twists are naturally going to be integral to its plot in a way that those in Fight Club aren't.

Fair enough. But after finally seeing Fight Club after the twist, it just killed the movie for me.

[The Gunslinger45]

10. 8 ½

I could just put Fellini here in general. I just can’t connect to his films. But the biggest disappointment for me was when I tried to watch 8 ½. A film that not only many argue is his best, but one of the best films of all time. Now I am no stranger to the art house and their aesthetics. And I have enjoyed foreign films from Japanese, the Czech Republic, Sweden, France, USSR, Hong Kong, China, and fair Italy. But I just could not get into one of their most famous and one of their most celebrated directors. And to top it off I know of many people who love and adore this film; especially from people who are artist and filmmakers, and quite a few critics. But I think that might be the major failing of why I can’t connect to this movie.

This movie is a pseudo autobiographical film for Fellini dealing with a creative stagnant. Director’s block. He is struggling with this throughout the film all the while we peek into his dreams in a few surreal sequences. And that is the crux of my disconnect with the film. I am not an artist. I have never suffered from writer’s block, director’s block, or any other kind of creative block. Now sure I write movie reviews, but I write on stuff I feel I have a lot to say about. If I don’t I don’t do a review on it and might write a few sentences in the “Rate the Last movie you saw” thread. And it is not like I write reviews as a job, this is a hobby. No I have no dead lines to meet and have pretty much free reign on my reviews. The main character is a professional artist. If he does not create, he does not eat. So he has to press himself. This leads to anxiety and the conflict of the film. One I just can’t connect to. Now could it be that i just can't connect with Fellini's style? Sure. Then again I thought La Strada was at least good even if I did not care for his other films that I saw. But this one was the biggest disappointment for me. Not bad, but just not for me.

[cricket]

I liked 8 1/2, which was as much as I was hoping for.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm not a fan of superheroes so I never bothered with Suicide Squad. I've yet to attempt a Fellini.

[Iroquois]

Sometimes negative threads generate more discussion.

You don't need to tell me.

Fair enough. But after finally seeing Fight Club after the twist, it just killed the movie for me.

Understandable. I managed to see it without knowing the twist and of course thought it was Top 10 worthy for a long time after that, but nowadays I think I'm over it.

Now the acting I had no issues with. Well for the most part. The casting was very good, but holy CRAP was the writing bad. And this is David Ayer, I KNOW he writes good stuff. The man wrote Training Day! But the movie felt like it was on fast forward! The pace was break neck when it needed to slow down at times and establish this group as a collective unit and not just a pack of criminals shoved into a bad situation. I needed more character motivations, I DESPERATELY needed more back story on villains, I needed more back story on some of the team members, and I needed less tattoos on the Joker.

I may not think that "the guy wrote Training Day" is the superlative that you make it out to be, but it's worth noting thate WB only gave Ayer six weeks to write the entire movie - and then there was the fact that the end result is clearly reshot and cut to hell and back without too much of Ayer's input. Really doesn't jibe with DC presenting themselves as "filmmaker-driven'.

And why the hell is Amanda Waller so damn skinny in this movie? I blame the Nu 52 for this BS. In the Nu 52 reboot of the DC universe they made Amanda Waller; a smart, cunning, and ruthless FAT black woman into a skinny hot busty black woman. What the hell? We can’t have a government intelligence be a big girl? Look I ain’t a fragile crying SJW snowflake crying on Tumblr, but what was wrong with Amanda Waller being fat? Why change the character? The character was a damn good one. Why did we need to slim down Amanda Waller? Was it the artists thinking that to appeal to 13 year old boys they can’t have a fat character? Or would it because the character would be a unique figure be drawn and not just flat out traced. I don’t know but DC lost my business with that crappy reboot. Viola Davis is a great actor but she is just too damn skinny to be Waller. What the hell people?! Now I could go on about the Nu 52 and why it sucked, and how they messed up Jaime Reyes as the Blue Beetle, and why the hell Barbra Gordon can walk when The Killing Joke is still cannon, but that would take way too long.

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The movie needed an extra 30 to 45 minutes to flesh out the story. And I can’t say that this was a new issue. Man of Steel was crammed with way too much story and not a lot of time, but that movie was around 2 hours and 30 minutes or so. This movie was closer to two hours. If they added an extra 30 minutes and added a few more scenes I think it would have really improved on the movie. But they didn’t and the movie just plain suffers for it. A+ in marketing, but a C- in execution of the movie.

It seems more like they could have kept it to 2 hours but used the time more efficiently. The first 40 minutes or so get burned on introducing the characters (some of them multiple times - Deadshot gets at least three separate scenes that could serve as his introduction) and the part where they finally get around to doing some action is still a mess for various reasons.

[Miss Vicky]

Sometimes negative threads generate more discussion.

Considering Iroquois once did a "Worst Movies" countdown, I don't think he's particularly averse to the idea of a negative thread.

[The Gunslinger45]

You don't need to tell me.



Understandable. I managed to see it without knowing the twist and of course thought it was Top 10 worthy for a long time after that, but nowadays I think I'm over it.



I may not think that "the guy wrote Training Day" is the superlative that you make it out to be, but it's worth noting thate WB only gave Ayer six weeks to write the entire movie - and then there was the fact that the end result is clearly reshot and cut to hell and back without too much of Ayer's input. Really doesn't jibe with DC presenting themselves as "filmmaker-driven'.



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It seems more like they could have kept it to 2 hours but used the time more efficiently. The first 40 minutes or so get burned on introducing the characters (some of them multiple times - Deadshot gets at least three separate scenes that could serve as his introduction) and the part where they finally get around to doing some action is still a mess for various reasons.

Yeah the WB messed up there. This movie was a glorified rough draft in the writing department.

As for the Amanda Waller stuff here is a visual explaining what happened, and my nerd rage outburst.

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[Iroquois]

Considering Iroquois once did a "Worst Movies" countdown, I don't think he's particularly averse to the idea of a negative thread.

Yeah, but that list is seven years old now and I consider it a semi-trolling mess these days where revisiting a bunch of the entries revealed that they weren't that bad. Negativity may inspire discussion, but then the question becomes whether or not the discussion is worthwhile. It's why I've started to distance myself from certain negative concepts like "overrated" movies or "so-bad-it's-good" movies in recent years.

Yeah the WB messed up there. This movie was a glorified rough draft in the writing department.

As for the Amanda Waller stuff here is a visual explaining what happened, and my nerd rage outburst.

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Yeah, that's a good point. Still, it's not like Davis that much of a shift away from that first version of Waller - if we were talking about someone like Naomie Harris or Thandie Newton then it might be a bridge too far, but Davis didn't strike me as being too skinny.

[The Gunslinger45]

Yeah, but that list is seven years old now and I consider it a semi-trolling mess these days where revisiting a bunch of the entries revealed that they weren't that bad. Negativity may inspire discussion, but then the question becomes whether or not the discussion is worthwhile. It's why I've started to distance myself from certain negative concepts like "overrated" movies or "so-bad-it's-good" movies in recent years.



Yeah, that's a good point. Still, it's not like Davis that much of a shift away from that first version of Waller - if we were talking about someone like Naomie Harris or Thandie Newton then it might be a bridge too far, but Davis didn't strike me as being too skinny.

Davis had Waller the character down (at least as much as she could due to writing) but she was too skinny in my humble opinion. I miss big Amanda.

[Miss Vicky]

Yeah, but that list is seven years old now and I consider it a semi-trolling mess these days where revisiting a bunch of the entries revealed that they weren't that bad. Negativity may inspire discussion, but then the question becomes whether or not the discussion is worthwhile. It's why I've started to distance myself from certain negative concepts like "overrated" movies or "so-bad-it's-good" movies in recent years.

:shrug:

Negative opinions are just as valid as positive ones. Also "overrated" doesn't equal "bad" and some of my favorite movies are so bad they're good, so I don't see that as a particularly negative concept. Hell, Showgirls has shown up in my top 100 favorites twice. I love that movie. It's crap, but I love it.

[Iroquois]

:shrug:

Negative opinions are just as valid as positive ones. Also "overrated" doesn't equal "bad" and some of my favorite movies are so bad they're good, so I don't see that as a particularly negative concept. Hell, Showgirls has shown up in my top 100 favorites twice. I love that movie. It's crap, but I love it.

I'm just getting burnt out on negativity for negativity's sake. I know "overrated" doesn't necessarily equate to "bad" but it's still about deliberately framing one's opinion as being different to the most commonly-held ones, while there is something inherently condescending about "so bad it's good", as if you have to act like you're better than something you enjoy no matter the reason. I like Showgirls but I barely register it as so-bad-it's-good.

[Miss Vicky]

there is something inherently condescending about "so bad it's good", as if you have to act like you're better than something you enjoy no matter the reason. I like Showgirls but I barely register it as so-bad-it's-good.

The movies I classify as so-bad-it's-good I love because they're so bad. It makes them really funny - funnier even than most actual comedies. I see nothing wrong with acknowledging that my love for a film stems from its failures.

[The Gunslinger45]

8. Straw Dogs (1971)

Now here is a flick that was a major let down. Now I love me some good old fashioned revenge and vigilante flicks. And this movie is usually thrown in the same mix as the other movies. Maybe a bit unfairly in hindsight and it is not a straight revenge flick. But this is a movie from the 70’s (my favorite decade for films) and from Sam Pekinpah. The man who directed awesome movies like The Wild Bunch and Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. Films of ideals versus the real world, violence and brutality, and plenty of gun battles. Needless to say I like Peckinpah, but oy vey did this suck.

Okay first off I just did not like Dustin Hoffman’s character. The man is a p***y. I know his character is supposed to be weak. He is an American Mathematician run away to England with his English wife. He goes to England to avoid Vietnam the war, but also the wave of social protests against the war. It is not that he is apolitical or apathetic, but more that he just can't take a stand. This is the set up for his arc, But between that and his reaction to a slaughtered cat and other offenses by the workers on his home, his reactions are beyond weak and timid and down right unsympathetic. This is all building up to him finally finding his balls and standing up for what he thinks is right in the final violent climax of the flick. I get the themes and I get the arc of the character. Problem is he is a bad character. I don’t care how good the arc is, if I don’t care about the character I am not going to connect with the flick.

But worst off all was the most controversial scene in the movie. The rape scene. In the movie Dustin’s wife Amy is asleep on a couch when one of the local workers and her ex-boyfriend (Venner) makes a sexual advance. She resists at first; but then seems to consent. It looked like it would start out as rape, but combined with the camera focus, lighting, and tone made it kinda look like consensual sex. But the set up looked liked like rape, and it left me a tad confused and uneasy. Then worker number two (Norman) comes in and violently rapes her. Throwing ambiguity out the window and even has Venner hold Amy down while he assaults her. And what does it do to advance the plot? NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Dustin’s character never finds out they raped her, he never gets revenge for it, they barely mention it again aside that Amy breaks down at a church social when the rapists are also in attendance. And when Hoffman finally does find a spine, grabs a shotgun and starts shooting sh!tbags, it is for reasons OTHER than these bastards raped my wife. WHY?!?!?!? What is the point of the rape scene when it leads to NOTHING! Especially since there was so much focus on that one scene. It doesn’t establish them as horrible people, we knew they were bastards before! It does not show rape as something rampant like in say medieval Europe during a war, or a tool of war like in the Congo. It is just there for no real reason. Sure Hoffman catches Norman trying to rape her again, but it is not even Hoffman who kills him, it is Venner! Who then immediately gets whacked by Hoffman! Leaving the rape to be completely pointless! At least I Spit on Your Grave with its gratuitous 25 minute rape scene LED to something with Camille Keaton’s revenge. It was resolved and the scene had a purpose in the flick

I will stick to a much better movie about an anti war pacifist who when confronted by violence and sexual assault of his family leads him to violence. It stars Charles Bronson and it was called Death Wish.

[Gatsby]

This thread is great, because while I am sad that you were dissapointed by my favorite movie and 8 1/2, your explanations are more than enough for me to understand your thought process behind the opinions. Keep it up :)

[The Gunslinger45]

This thread is great, because while I am sad that you were dissapointed by my favorite movie and 8 1/2, your explanations are more than enough for me to understand your thought process behind the opinions. Keep it up :)

I know. I was awaiting your reaction most of all. I know you love 8 1/2 and Oldboy is your favorite film. What makes the film 8 1/2 so special to you? I am curious.

[Swan]

The rape scene in I Spit on Your Grave was really 25 minutes? I don't remember that. Not that you're wrong.

[Gatsby]

What makes the film 8 1/2 so special to you? I am curious.
Well, I think it is because I can relate to some of the frustrations Fellini had as someone who constantly trying to be creative. I've always been tried to be original with my ideas. Ironically, a document of his struggles shows one of the most original styles and iconic images in cinema history. It's also because Dude With a Problem movies just tend to resonate strongly with me.

[The Gunslinger45]

The rape scene in I Spit on Your Grave was really 25 minutes? I don't remember that. Not that you're wrong.

That is about what it came out to when I timed it.

[The Gunslinger45]

Well, I think it is because I can relate to some of the frustrations Fellini had as someone who constantly trying to be creative. I've always been tried to be original with my ideas. Ironically, a document of his struggles shows one of the most original styles and iconic images in cinema history. It's also because Dude With a Problem movies just tend to resonate strongly with me.

And I see that my theory of not being an artist or having that artistic drive really causes my disconnect with the movie.

[Gatsby]

Btw GS, I think you'd like La Dolce VIta (it plays out like a classy noir instead of a whack Italian director's lamenting).

[The Gunslinger45]

Btw GS, I think you'd like La Dolce VIta (it plays out like a classy noir instead of a whack Italian director's lamenting).

I have already seen it. :( Wasn't a fan either. I have also seen La Strada and Amarcord

[Swan]

That is about what it came out to when I timed it.

Daaaaamn.

Also, you timed a rape scene?

[The Gunslinger45]

You timed a rape scene?

I had heard multiple times given for this very infamous rape scene. I heard 15, 25, to some even said 50 minutes. So when I watched it I used a stop watch. Needless to say it was the most uncomfortable 25 minutes I had watching a movie.

[The Gunslinger45]

7. The Crow

When I was but a wee lad, there were four movies that I tried to rent as a kid but were denied by my parents. They were all rated R and I was under 18 so I still needed parental approval to rent them. I was given reasons for not seeing the movies ranging from subject matter I was too young to handle to the films being too violent. One of those movies was The Crow. These four movies I so wanted to see eventually developed a veil of forbidden mysticism around them. These movies had something about them that was forbidden, something my parents did not want me to see and by God my teenage self wanted to see them. So the day finally came when my older brother turned 18. He could rent the movies we were not allowed to see. We were no longer contained by parental mandate! We could go to Blockbuster Video and rent whatever we damn well pleased! And I finally saw the movie and it was a bore.

Now looking back I think the main reason for my parents not wanting to let me see the movie was because Brandon Lee dies while making the movie and for the rape scene in the beginning. While sad as it was that Lee died, after seeing the movie and judging it on its own merit I just did not see what was so controversial about the flick. I saw no reason I could not handle it as a teenager just a few years prior. I mean I saw Ninja Scroll and other early 90's anime before I saw this movie and they were WAY more violent and some of them had rape scenes. As such it simply did not leave up to my expectations.

That being said, two of the other 4 forbidden films I really like. I love Chasing Amy. And while I did not see much in that movie either that was so offensive I could not be expected to handle it at the age of 14, then when I finally saw it around 16 or 17; I could still see how the folks might have thought it was a bit much. Also it was still a great movie in its own right, and because I am a whore for Kevin Smith flicks (save for Cop Out). The other was South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut. That I totally get why the folks did not want me to see. Language was not the issue, but the movie does have a talking clitoris in it. I can see why they did not want me to see it. Then again Trey Parker and Matt Stone are brilliant and so was this movie. The fourth movie? We will get to that. The Crow on the other hand just did not hold up for me. And after seeing it I was left very disappointed.

[The Gunslinger45]

Wow somehow I skipped number 9.

9. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)

I am no stranger to slasher movies. When I was a teenager I watched everything from Nightmare on Elm Street and Halloween to Leprechaun. And I heard that this was supposed to be one of the very best. I heard this movie was supposed to be scary, disturbing and violent. I also heard that this was based off a true story but after The Blair Witch Project I grew jaded to that. But still the prospect of a new slasher franchise to explore was enticing and I finally rented the movie from Blockbuster Video. What a let down that was.

Okay I never really expected this movie to be scary. Slashers never scared me as a teenager. They were however were a lot of fun to watch. Plus boobs were pretty much a guarantee and I grew up without easy access to internet porn. So I was not expecting this thing to scare the pants off me. But I was let down by how not disturbing it was. Yeah it was violent and all but they hype that was built up around this flick by my peers just did not hold up. As such I never saw another Texas Chainsaw film until I came to Movie Forums. And it was Sexy who made be want to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. And you know what? I liked it better then the original. At least that movie had Dennis Hopper.

[Sexy Celebrity]

In my opinion, you won't truly love a hyped up movie people tell you to watch. This is one reason why I can't do the Hall of Fames and watch stuff just to "see more movies."

You love movies you're drawn to because you took it upon yourself to see them. Films you had to see and you're not entirely sure why. There's a reason there's movie trailers. To help you get a feel if the movie is something you need to see. If "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" was pressured into you, of course you won't like it.

[Kaplan]

Awesome. So far I love every movie on your list. :(

[Iroquois]

I like how all this is coming from someone who gave Yoga Hosers four out of five. He's effectively guaranteed that it would make a list like this if I ever get around to watching it.

[cricket]

I really like Texas Chainsaw, but not as much as I had always hoped. I would consider it slightly disappointing for me.

I love The Crow and Straw Dogs though.

[Roy C.]

8. Straw Dogs (1971)

Now here is a flick that was a major let down. Now I love me some good old fashioned revenge and vigilante flicks. And this movie is usually thrown in the same mix as the other movies. Maybe a bit unfairly in hindsight and it is not a straight revenge flick. But this is a movie from the 70’s (my favorite decade for films) and from Sam Pekinpah.

Couldn't agree with you more. The film is very slow-moving for one. It drags out with no enthusiasm to keep your attention. Not a single interesting thing really happens. And your right, Dustin's character is a total wimp. After he does find out they raped his wife, he simply walks outside and tells them in a calm, soothing voice "You're fired..etc.". That's his reaction. And the funniest, most pathetic part of the movie is when the guys start break into his house to terrorize them, and Dustin pulls a shotgun on the guy in the window, saying "You..You get out of here" in a completely mild and unemotional way.

[Roy C.]

Wow somehow I skipped number 9.

9. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)

I am no stranger to slasher movies. When I was a teenager I watched everything from Nightmare on Elm Street and Halloween to Leprechaun. And I heard that this was supposed to be one of the very best. I heard this movie was supposed to be scary, disturbing and violent. I also heard that this was based off a true story but after The Blair Witch Project I grew jaded to that. But still the prospect of a new slasher franchise to explore was enticing and I finally rented the movie from Blockbuster Video. What a let down that was.

Okay I never really expected this movie to be scary. Slashers never scared me as a teenager. They were however were a lot of fun to watch. Plus boobs were pretty much a guarantee and I grew up without easy access to internet porn. So I was not expecting this thing to scare the pants off me. But I was let down by how not disturbing it was. Yeah it was violent and all but they hype that was built up around this flick by my peers just did not hold up. As such I never saw another Texas Chainsaw film until I came to Movie Forums. And it was Sexy who made be want to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. And you know what? I liked it better then the original. At least that movie had Dennis Hopper.

Big disagreement here. I can understand the hype affecting your viewing, but it was still good to me nonetheless. The majority of the film isn't that scary until just the one girl is left. When you put yourself in her shoes, from the moment she runs into the gas station for help and beyond, it's pretty frightening.

[Camo]

8 1/2 is one of my favourite films :bawling: Understand why you didn't get into it though.

[rauldc14]

We agree on 8 1/2 Gunslinger. One of the most overrated films I've seen. And yes I did like other Fellini films.

[Swan]

Wow somehow I skipped number 9.

9. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)

I am no stranger to slasher movies. When I was a teenager I watched everything from Nightmare on Elm Street and Halloween to Leprechaun. And I heard that this was supposed to be one of the very best. I heard this movie was supposed to be scary, disturbing and violent. I also heard that this was based off a true story but after The Blair Witch Project I grew jaded to that. But still the prospect of a new slasher franchise to explore was enticing and I finally rented the movie from Blockbuster Video. What a let down that was.

Okay I never really expected this movie to be scary. Slashers never scared me as a teenager. They were however were a lot of fun to watch. Plus boobs were pretty much a guarantee and I grew up without easy access to internet porn. So I was not expecting this thing to scare the pants off me. But I was let down by how not disturbing it was. Yeah it was violent and all but they hype that was built up around this flick by my peers just did not hold up. As such I never saw another Texas Chainsaw film until I came to Movie Forums. And it was Sexy who made be want to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. And you know what? I liked it better then the original. At least that movie had Dennis Hopper.


BOOOOOOOOOO

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Straw Dogs and really don't remember The Crow at all.
I hated The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but I was expecting to so it wasn't a disappointment.

[False Writer]

I was really sharpening my pitchfork when I saw Fight Club, but after reading why it was on there I put it away. Yeah I could imagine how much of a killjoy it would be for that twist to be given away before seeing it, I was 11 when I first watched it and that twist is still the most memorable movie moment for me.

I'm actually a fan of Straw Dogs and The Crow, so will have to disagree with you on them. It's been so long since I saw Texas Chainsaw that I can't really comment on it.

I do agree with Suicide Squad, the marketing for it was insane, and then the film was just so mediocre. I will cut Ayer some slack if he really did only have 6 weeks to write the entire thing, that must have been a lot of pressure to write such a big film in such a short time, and on top of that had to worry about directing the whole thing.

Neat thread and I'm looking forward to the rest!

[The Gunslinger45]

I like how all this is coming from someone who gave Yoga Hosers four out of five. He's effectively guaranteed that it would make a list like this if I ever get around to watching it.

Your just saying that because you hate women in movies. ;):p:D

[The Gunslinger45]

6. The Pirates of the Caribbean Sequels

I remember first hearing about Pirates of the Caribbean when it was first announced. I had to ask myself the same question I asked when I heard rumors of a Ridley Scott movie based on the Monopoly board game. Has Hollywood run out of damn ideas? I mean movies have been adapted from other forms of media before: books, TV shows, video games, comic books, plays, and epic poems. But a movie based off a f***king Disney theme park ride? Was Disney thinking backwards? Last I checked you made a movie, sold the merchandise, made dump trucks of money, THEN you can sell the rights to a theme park and make a badass ride. See Back to the Future the Ride, Star Tours, And Jaws the Ride.

Needless to say I was skeptical of it being a good movie. Then I saw it, admitted I was wrong, and offered Disney an apology. I LOVED Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl. It was a gripping, fun, swashbuckling adventure movie with Johnny Depp as one of my favorite movie characters; Captain Jack Sparrow. And it also made a butt load of cash. So naturally sequels were in the works. I was very excited. Then I saw the sequels and that faded fast.

What the hell Disney? You had such a good movie then came up with three steaming piles of mediocrity. I can’t call them bad really. There are positives. Jack Sparrow returns, Barbossa returns, the set design and new locations are bad ass, and I have to admit the idea for the villains are actually pretty damn awesome. And Bill Nighy and Davy Jones was really cool. Problems however came in some pretty stupid ideas for the flicks. Betrayal and secrets revealed were kind of big things in the first flick. Will Turner’s Dad, Barbossa’s backstabbing, and making it look like Jack was going to sell out Will to get the Black Pearl back made for an additional layer if intrigue. Thing was, I was able to follow the misdirection laid out by the players in the flick. They tried to ramp up this aspect of the movie in the sequels, only now they made half the movie seem convoluted and confusing. And the biggest sin of all was the flicks still focused on Will and Elizabeth more than they did on Jack Sparrow. Why? They were fine characters and all, but let’s face it they are not the reason people go to see these movies. The audience came for Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow, who was still kept in as a supporting character. The first sequels had a better plot and a way better villain, but the fourth Pirates movie was at least a step in the right direction. Cut out Will And Elizabeth and focus on Jack. Will and Elizabeth were no longer interesting characters in the sequels and never should have been in them. They felt like filler until we got to Jack and more swashbuckling.

Again, I can’t call the films bad, but they certainly dropped the ball enough to be major disappointments for me.

[rauldc14]

I don't have much a recollection of the Pirates films, but I don't think I liked them all too much. Especially bad was the fourth.

[Camo]

Loved Curse of the Black Pearl as a kid and hated the sequels for the most part so definitely get that one. And i forgot to say earlier Fight Club as well as SE7EN were both spoiled for me, still loved them though. Oldboy wasn't thankfully.

[Miss Vicky]

I like the Pirates sequels but they're not great. I don't know if I'd call them disappointing though as I never expect sequels to live up to the original.

[The Gunslinger45]

5. Machete

Not going to lie people. This one hurt. I LOVE Robert Rodriguez. El Mariachi, Desperado, Sin City, Dusk til Dawn, hell I even liked Once Upon a Time in Mexico and his segment of Four Rooms. Robert makes some badass movies. And a repeated supporting actor for his movies is Danny Trejo. Who aside from being a damn good tough guy actor; is himself actually one of the more interesting people in Hollywood. After decades in prison on drug charges, found his way into the movie business and eventually found his early niche as the bad guy who gets killed in Robert’s flicks. In fact he wants his bad guy characters to die in the movies to try and tell troubled youth “don’t try to be like me or that will happen for real.” Top it off; he is a sobriety coach after dealing for years with his own addiction to cocaine. So when I heard Danny was getting to be the lead actor in his own movie based off one of the fake trailers from Grindhouse I was excited! Danny sure as hell deserved his shot at a franchise. So I saw the movie… and sadly I was disappointed.

Let’s say this first off. Danny Trejo was one of the best things about this movie. Danny was great as Machete. He was tough, he was sullen, he hacks people with machetes, and he even got a few funny bits like with the texting gag. And Danny with two topless babes in a pool? Epic. And I refuse to call a movie bad that involves Trejo gutting a guy and then using said sh!tbag’s intestines to swing John McClain style down from one story of a building to a lower one. That my friends; is over the top, fun, and absolutely metal! And that would be great if it stuck to being this over the top action fest of blood and t!ts. But this flick decided it wanted to take itself WAY too seriously with a political message. When Machete was not going around trying to get revenge on the guys trying to kill him, we had a bunch of forced “open boarder’s good, enforcing immigration laws bad” speeches. Leading to the biggest issue of the flick; this uber serious political lecturing mixed with fantastic action set pieces just do not mix.

Now I take a moderate view on immigration. It is a complicated issue. And I could spend half this review telling my political point of view on the subject, but I will keep it simple. I am not in “keep the borders open and if you disagree you’re a racist” crowd but I am not in the “build the wall and deport all illegal aliens” camp either. I tend to like my middle ground on the subject. But that itself is not the issue. So this flick has a political opinion different from mine. I like a lot of movies that express political viewpoints not shared by me. See my gushing review for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. That was a lament of the fall of the hippie counterculture in the late 60’s and early 70’s and the supposed death of the American Dream. I’m certainly no hippie and won't shed a tear that the free love crowd ended hard; and I won't subscribe that the American Dream is dead. But Thompson’s writing style and execution were so pitch perfect and infused with talent that even I have to appreciate Thompson’s prose and artistic work. As such I love both Fear and Loathing the book and the Terry Gilliam film adaptation. And even films I might agree with politically have pissed me off. Hell I am against the death penalty and I still hated Dead Man Walking. You know you’re doing an anti death penalty movie wrong when all I can hear in my head while watching Sean Penn in that crap fest was the first few riffs to Metallica’s ode to the electric chair, Ride the Lightning. It ain’t the politics of Machete that that bother me; it is how it goes about it.

The actors chosen to deliver these empowered speeches include Michelle Rodriguez (a fine action hero but lousy with monologues) and Jessica Alba who can’t act her way out of a paper bag. I am willing to try and find compromise on a very complex political issue, but just thinking about Alba delivering her “We didn’t cross the border! The border crossed us!” abomination of delivery (and writing) and I am willing to saunter over to the “build the wall” crowd and don a MAGA hat just so I don’t have to hear her try to act. And the addition of these bits derail what was a great action flick. It jars me out of the action pieces and flat out disrupts the flow of the movie. It is like trying to add a socio political college lecture into Commando. Just don't do it!

Unless the politics are trying to be as over the top and ridiculous as the action and violence then it would be par for the course; but the movie goes out of its way to take itself seriously. It tries to mix a kick ass action movie with a bad ass action hero with the dialogue that would be laughed out of Oscar Bait. The action scenes are a glorious success and any movie where Trejo fights Steven Segal in a sword fight should be one of the best action movies ever in my book. But the preachy political drama with no subtly was so unneeded and the final product becomes pure mediocrity. If they cut out the preaching, recast Jessica Alba, and kept the entire tone as over the top; I would have loved the flick. Which made me very sad since I SO wanted this to be good. But ultimately, I was let down.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I was really sharpening my pitchfork when I saw Fight Club

Fight Club is overrated, I honestly believe. It is another Meryl Streep. I like it, it's great, I understand the appeal, I was surprised I even liked it when I saw it, but I think the movie could have been better.

[cricket]

I liked Machete but hated the sequel.

I have only seen the first Pirates movie.

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Machete. Actually I think Once Upon A Time In Mexico is the only Rodriguez film I've seen. I remember liking it though.

[The Gunslinger45]

4. Shaun of the Dead

Now here is a controversial pick. I had heard about this flick when I was in college and I heard it was supposed to be really funny. And on paper it looked like something I would really enjoy. Zombies are in it? I was sold. I was HUGE into zombies in college and was and still am a raging fan of the George A Romero Of the Dead movies. British humor? Hell yes! I love me some Monty Python and Black Adder. So mixing the two should be a match made in heaven right? Not really.

The biggest problem I had with the film is very simple so I will say it bluntly. I did not laugh. I might have chuckled once or twice. But I didn't laugh. And for a movie billed as a comedy that is going to kill the movie for me. I just didn’t find it funny and I love a lot of horror comedies. Tremors, Troma flicks, Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness; these movies blend horror and comedy together extremely well. And in those movies I laughed. Now I expected Shaun of the Dead to be more comedy then horror with nods to zombie movies. Like how Young Frankenstein did to old Universal horror movies. That movie was hilarious! So why did this fall short? Now I rewatched it to try and see if it would get better with a second viewing. And it didn’t. I just did not laugh.

I thought for a while that the biggest issue was that zombies could not be funny. But that was proved not true when I saw Zombieland in the theaters. Not only was Zombieland one of the funniest movies I ever saw it is one of my all time favorite movies. So maybe I just don’t think Edgar Wright is funny? That theory went down the crapper too when I saw Hot Fuzz. I think Hot Fuzz is funny as hell! I laughed and laughed hard! It was funny, witty, with clever gags and word play! So why did Shaun of the Dead fall flat? It is not exactly bad and there was some thought to the joke set ups, but ultimately the jokes seemed weak.

Now with the other films on this list I can really articulate why I can’t connect or they were disappointing. From unable to connecting with themes and concepts like with 8 ½, massive spoilers with Fight Club and Oldboy, to over blown hype like with other flicks. This one I just don’t have an explanation other then I did not laugh. And why I did not laugh remains the biggest mystery to me for the reasons stated above. So other than that MoFo’s I got nothing.

[cricket]

Not a favorite or anything but I do like Shaun of the Dead. I need to still get to Hot Fuzz.

[Swan]

Not a favorite or anything but I do like Shaun of the Dead. I need to still get to Hot Fuzz.

Dude! You haven't seen Hot Fuzz?!?!?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Dude! You haven't seen Hot Fuzz?!?!?

Skip it.

[Swan]

Skip it.

I agree. Then go back and watch it!

[Miss Vicky]

I thought Shaun of the Dead was okay. Probably not something I'll revisit, but I didn't really have any expectations of it going in.

[Iroquois]

You won't get any argument from me over the Pirates sequels.

Machete...also kind of the same, but I feel like I could go into detail. Rodriguez used to be one of my favourite filmmakers but I outgrew his stuff hard right around the time that Machete came out. I kind of think of him as the action movie equivalent of Kevin Smith - started off strong with some surprisingly competent early work and was willing to broaden his horizons for better (Dogma/Sin City) or worse (Spy Kids/Jersey Girl, though I can't totally hate them given their light 'n' fluffy nature) but they eventually settled into these ruts of sorts where they're not putting out good stuff (though I can concede that Smith is at least trying something different with his recent forays into horror instead of Rodriguez recycling Sin City or Machete).

As for your remarks about the political aspect of it all, I think it at least makes some sense considering how much it's supposed to be a homage to grindhouse exploitation fare trying (and failing) to get a semblance of depth going as a sort of excuse for the action. A film like Coffy is an excuse to see Pam Grier kick ass for 90 minutes but it's still based off the sort of real-world drug problems that plagued the black community at the time (and it's significant enough that Black Dynamite was willing to reference it). Machete is sort of the same since it's those issues that do actually inform the plot to a degree and I'd argue that the goofy handling is at least somewhat intentional (or at least not that big a concern). I'm not expecting the movie where a guy uses guts as a rappel cord to be especially capable of delivering nuanced political commentary, but Rodriguez doesn't do nuance. I just accept as part of his fundamentally flawed approach to action movies.

Shaun of the Dead, on the other hand...yeah, fair enough. I can't tell you to laugh at it any more than you can tell me to laugh at Zombieland (which would make my biggest disappointments list).

[The Gunslinger45]

Common ground of Pirates sequels. Not unexpected.

On Machete: I agree old exploitation movies could get political, but this was way more high handed. And lets just leave Alba out of... well everything.

Zombieland: Okay now you are just being a contrarian. ;):D

[The Gunslinger45]

3. Prometheus

The summer of 2012 for me was defined by hype. This was the year The Avengers was making its way to theaters and that was amazing. It was also the same year Ridley Scott was returning to the world of science fiction in a pseudo prequel to Alien. Now I have been a fan of the series since I was a kid. Alien is a fantastic sci-fi horror flick and I rank Aliens as one of the best and damn near perfect action movies ever made. And Ridley’s return made me all the more hyped up to see the flick. A ticket in hand, a drink and popcorn from the concession stand, and a cushioned seat beneath my Irish American ass, I was ready for another return to Ridley Scott sci-fi. But what I got instead was among the more painfully disappointing theater experiences I ever had. This movie you could most certainly put in the bad movie column for me. Now I did not hate the movie by any stretch of the imagination. I did not think this was complete betrayal, sell out pandering, or even complete crap that made me furious; but the movie was just so piss poor and lack luster the word disappointment is the only way I can describe it.

Gone were the confined and claustrophobic settings of the Nostromo and we get a bunch of wide open spaces outside of the crashed alien space craft, there is no tension to the film, way too many characters of whom I just don’t give a damn about, and poorer writing. I can’t even enjoy it as an action movie because nothing in this film will ever hold a candle to Aliens. And worst of all we have some parts of the flick that were just never explained. The biggest of which was the main character Elizabeth Shaw who apparently was supposed to have an arc about her faith. She is a Christian in the film, and the presence of the alien Engineers suggests that their existence would contradict the concept of the Earth being created by God and man in the image of God. Set up for a very controversial but compelling character arc. Problem is after this set up they skip over showing any character growth or even plot points concerning faith vs science and at the end of the movie Shaw just confirms that she believes in God more than ever. WHY?!?!? Look I’m a good Catholic churchgoer; I want to know why she keeps the faith, but the flick never explains it. She just goes through out the movie and then at the end just says that she is still a Christian. EXPLAIN MOVIE! It is not a show don’t tell issue, they skipped showing and told telling to go f**k itself! Another jarring and perplexing part of the flick was when she confronts an Engineer and asks it something to the effect of why it hated or was angry at man. A question that came right the f**k out of left field. It was like the film cut out parts of the flick that might have explained a few things. It felt like it was pieced together is a sloppy editing job. It just did not make any sense.

Finally why did this have to be a pseudo sequel? They say it takes place in the Alien universe, but why did they have to change so many details about the universe? Namely the aliens! Outside of a few pseudo face huggers and one pseudo xenomorph at the very end of the movie there was a distinct lack of aliens in the movie. Why set it in the world of Alien without the bloody aliens? You had the kinda sort of facehuggers on the same kind of ship that the Nostromo encountered on LV 426. Why did they need to redesign the facehugger? Why did the kinda xenomorph need to look different? Why change their looks when the engineers ship and look was the same as in Alien? It felt like they had mixed feelings about it being an Alien movie. Combine that with the missing explanations I spoke of and I left the theater confused and very disappointed.

[False Writer]

Fight Club is overrated, I honestly believe. It is another Meryl Streep. I like it, it's great, I understand the appeal, I was surprised I even liked it when I saw it, but I think the movie could have been better.

I really have no idea how it could be better. Even the author of the original novel Chuck Palahniuk said that the movie was better than his own book. I also read the book and agree, the book is great of course but the movie is just that good.

[cricket]

I enjoyed Prometheus a bit, but when it was over I thought, what the hell I didn't get what I wanted.

[Iroquois]

I really have no idea how it could be better. Even the author of the original novel Chuck Palahniuk said that the movie was better than his own book. I also read the book and agree, the book is great of course but the movie is just that good.

The main flaw I observe with the movie these days is that it does too good a job of making Tyler Durden and his anti-consumerist rhetoric sound appealing, which does make it too easy to take the character at face value even when he starts forming fascistic terrorist cells, thus undermining the story's greater point.

[Miss Vicky]

Haven't seen Prometheus.

[The Gunslinger45]

2. Alien vs Predator

As much of a disappointment Prometheus was, nothing Alien related compares to the let down that was Alien vs Predator. Everything on this list was a letdown, but this one took years in the making.

Now I have been a fan of the Alien and Predator franchises since I was a kid. Me and my brother have seen the movies. I loved Alien and Aliens, I adored Predator, I loved Predator 2, me and my brother had action figures for both movies, we had the Alien vs Predator video game for Super Nintendo, and most importantly we had a stack of Alien vs Predator novels and an even bigger stack of Dark Horse Comic AvP trade paperbacks. Hell we even had the complete trades for Batman vs Predator and parts of Superman vs Aliens. Me and my brother were fans. And even in the earliest days of the internet there was a rumor of a movie for Alien vs Predator. Between this movie and Freddy vs Jason, these two cross over flicks had been in pre-production hell since I remember being in elementary school. So it had to have been damn near a decade between me and my brother first hearing about this movie and actually seeing it on screen. Needless to say the cards were already stacked against them. They would have to pull off a miracle to get a good movie to even live up to half the flick me and my brother expected to receive. And what we got was disappointment.

Now of the chief criticisms of the flick by many was that that it was PG-13. Long gone were the days of yore when rated R movies were advertised to kids by toy companies. Now movie have to be PG-13 to market to pre-teens. But that was actually not a big concern for me. Now I would be pissed at a PG-13 Alien or Predator solo movie since said extraterrestrials would be hunting down and killing scores of humans. That means seeing people killed in mass on screen. But when the main draw to the movie is seeing aliens and predators fight the PG-13 rating is not really a death sentence. These are non humans with none red blood. You can get away with a lot more sci-fi violence then you can in say a slasher flick so long as the body count is not human. And I can’t say a rated R Alien vs Predator movie would have made it good, since I saw the AVP sequel Requiem and that movie was downright abysmal.

But what I can be pissed at was the botching or ignoring of many good Alien vs Predator stories that I had already read in the comics; namely Machiko Noguchi. Her story was how she fought aliens alongside predators during a botched hunt and earns the respect of “Broken Tusk." So much so Broken Tusk snaps off an alien finger and uses the alien's acid blood to form the mark of his clan on her forehead. Allowing her to go off and join the predator race as a hunter. That was such a great story and led to another great one in Alien vs Predator: War. Now they kinda use some of the plot for this movie and even nod the marking scene at the end of the flick. But why set it in Antarctica? Why did they need the unneeded human drama? Why could they not stick closer to an already awesome story? Why get Paul WS Anderson to direct?

Needless to say I was bummed. The comics were just so much better and the flick could never live up to what I had read so many years prior. It was just not worth the 10 year wait.

[Swan]

Yeah that one sucked, though AVP:R was a bigger disappointment for me. At the time, wee lad me was like "it's rated R this time! Gonna be so cool!" and then it turned out to be crap.

[The Gunslinger45]

1. Quentin Tarantino
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Now you can get your pitchforks ready people!

Quentin Tarantino. What am I going to do with you beside not watch your movies? To me Quentin Tarantino is the cinematic equivalent of Communism. On paper, sounds like a great idea but in practice leads to broken hopes and dreams and piles of dead bodies. But at least in QT’s flicks they just die in the movie world.

Okay ham fisted metaphor aside, I am just not a fan. Tarantino himself tops my list of film disappointments because in all honesty, he should be one of my favorite directors. He makes violent movies, many of them with themes of crime or revenge, has a similar love for exploitation flicks, likes to use modern music to create memorable scenes like Scorsese has done, has been known to incorporate dark humor, and has an unquestionable passion for film and filmmaking that I really like. Hell his list of favorite movies includes multiple films in my top 25 or flicks I just really like! And yet his films and me just have this giant disconnect.

It is not like Tarantino just made one movie to make me not like his style. I have tried to like his flicks. My first introduction to him as a filmmaker was when I was about 13 years old. Which you would think would a great age to see one of his movies. And Lord knows I grew up watching tons of violent movies. It was around this time he released Reservoir Dogs. Easily one of his most famous and popular works… and at 13 years old I fell asleep during the movie. Bored me to tears.

So I did not like Reservoir Dogs. That is fine. After all it was just one movie. The biggest disappointment came when me and my brother tried to rent Pulp Fiction. Remember when I said in my The Crow segment there was a 4th movie I was forbidden to rent? Pulp Fiction was that final movie. So for about 3 years or so I waited thinking this flick was going to blow me away. I mean it had to right? There had to be SOME reason that I was not allowed to see it. And I had heard so many other people say how great the movie was. And finally me and my brother rented it when he turned 18. He really liked it. I was very disappointed. It was just… average. I liked the part in the Pawn Shop, but everything else was just not appealing.

My biggest issue after seeing 6 of his films is that I feel I just can’t connect with his trademark hyper stylized dialogue. And that is one of the biggest things his rabid fan base claim to be best about his movies. They love his dialogue. I just don’t care for it. And as a teenager I was getting into dialogue heavy films in a big bad way. Clerks was among my favorite movies and I was learning to really dig older less action oriented movies. And despite all of this, Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs were just flat.

Now I continued to try and find something Tarantino did that I would like. Or at least be good. I tried Kill Bill, Kill Bill 2, and Death Proof (part of the Grindhouse double feature in cinemas). But outside of a few scenes here or there I was just not impressed. His films were just one meh after another. Because for me, Tarantino writes certain scenes very well; but just not the whole of the film. Now when I do find myself liking something Tarantino is attached to is when he acts as producer to a Robert Rodriguez movie. Then again I think Rodriguez is the better director. The final Tarantino directed film I saw was Inglorious Bastards. And I flat out HATED the movie. Over long, draw out, over inflated, and in desperate need of an editor. Not to mention the title characters The Bastards are barely in the film, but are the center piece for the advertisements. What is he paying homage this time? Michael Bay’s Transformer movies?

But the final nail in the coffin for me was years later. Even after Inglorious Bastards, I wanted to give Tarantino one last try. And I did so by trying to rewatch Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. Maybe a rewatch would help. There have been plenty of movies I have rewatched that I ended up really liking. It worked for Blade Runner and Apocalypse Now. Hell it worked for Taxi Driver! So just a few years ago when I was still in the Army I sat down and watched both movies over again. And each time it was the same thing. Average. Meh. I just do not connect to these movies at all. It was then I finally just gave up on Tarantino. The guy is just not for me. Lord Knows I gave him more than his share of chances.

[The Gunslinger45]

Are you angry at some of my picks? I bet people are. Why do I do it? To be a troll? To poke the bear? No. I do it because these films are the true biggest disappointments I have ever experienced.

But I am not cruel. I offer you hope. I offer you something to look forward to. I offer you revenge.

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Tune in soon. Because what comes next within the next few weeks will be:

My Top 12 Movies I like, YOU will Probably Hate!


See ya then! ;)

[Swan]

Not sure why anyone would be angry. I'm a fan of Tarantino but I will say he has disappointed me before.

[cricket]

I didn't like Alien vs Predator, but I wasn't disappointed.

Cool thread gunner::cool:

[The Gunslinger45]

Thanks for stopping by everyone! And stay tuned to my next tread!

[Gatsby]

Not sure why anyone would be angry. I'm a fan of Tarantino but I will say he has disappointed me before.
The Hateful Eight and Django made me feel like Quentin should stop jerking off to his own scripts and instead register for a screenplay workshop. Too long and exhausting stuff man.

[Swan]

The Hateful Eight and Django made me feel like Quentin should stop jerking off to his own scripts and instead register for a screenplay workshop. Too long and exhausting stuff man.

I liked Hateful Eight but can see why some don't. Not too crazy about Django.

[Iroquois]

If Tarantino is the cinematic equivalent of communism then Michael Bay must be the cinematic equivalent of capitalism - a broken system that is the logical conclusion of man's willingness to favour self-preservation over altruism where those who are most vocal about its flaws matter very little to the people who keep the system going out of greed or ignorance or both.

[Miss Vicky]

I will never understand your hatred for Tarantino. He should be tailor made for you.

In any case, I don't rank him as a personal favorite but I LOVE Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained and really liked The Hateful 8. I like Pulp Fiction too, but haven't watched it in a long time. Reservoir Dogs is good but it didn't blow me away. I HATE both Kill Bill movies.

[Camo]

From your top five i've not seen Machete, Prometheus or Alien vs Predator. Have saw one of the Alien vs Predator sequels though, the one with the temple it was awful. I can agree with Shaun of the Dead, i quite like it but i've never been as into the Cornetto Trilogy as everyone else seems to and i don't find them that funny. I like Tarantino but alot less than i used to, Reservoir Dogs is the only one of his films i really love.

Congrats on finishing your liist :up:

[MovieMeditation]

Shaun of the Dead I agree with. Seen it a few times now and still don't really like it. But it's pretty fun. The two sequels however, I love!!

Alien vs Predator. Yeah, a huge let down.

For me, Fight Club was not about the twist. I think I might have known about the twist too and I wasn't huge on it at first. But it gets better and better and there is so much put into that movie it's crazy. It's the script/ dialogue, story and attention to detail that amazes me everytime. But what I hate is not that you find it overrated because you just didn't click with it. The problem is those who think they are great cinephiles if they talk the movie down. "I used to love it but now not so much. It's a wannabe cinephile movie to like." Like, it's popular so you won't say you like it? Jeesh...

Promethues was a let-down for me at first, but now I really like it. It's only a loose spiritual compagnon-piece to the Alien universe, but what it really is, is an exploring of the human existince or just life in general and a philosophical journey that has so many interesting ideas and angles throughout - and on top of that it's really entertaining when it kicks in!

[Iroquois]

I will never understand your hatred for Tarantino. He should be tailor made for you.

In any case, I don't rank him as a personal favorite but I LOVE Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained and really liked The Hateful 8. I like Pulp Fiction too, but haven't watched it in a long time. Reservoir Dogs is good but it didn't blow me away. I HATE both Kill Bill movies.

What got me was the complaint about how little screen-time the actual Basterds had in Basterds as if that wasn't actually a good thing in the end. Tarantino's been subverting expectations for much of his career (at least as far back as Jackie Brown) so I didn't mind at all that the heart of his war movie wasn't the team of gung-ho soldiers causing sadistic and largely fruitless mayhem but the orphaned refugee finding a way to fight back against her oppressors.

For me, Fight Club was not about the twist. I think I might have known about the twist too and I wasn't huge on it at first. But it gets better and better and there is so much put into that movie it's crazy. It's the script/ dialogue, story and attention to detail that amazes me everytime. But what I hate is not that you find it overrated because you just didn't click with it. The problem is those who think they are great cinephiles if they talk the movie down. "I used to love it but now not so much. It's a wannabe cinephile movie to like." Like, it's popular so you won't say you like it? Jeesh...

I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that Fight Club can be so easily misunderstood and that people who missed the point at first (i.e. not realising that Tyler is actually a hypocritical villain instead of a smart and cool anti-hero) end up denouncing the movie as an ineffectual attempt at satire once they realise their error. At least, that's kind of where I'm at with it. I don't hate the movie or anything, but now that I've realised that my original appreciation of the movie stemmed from a misguided interpretation I feel like I need to re-evaluate it completely. The twist doesn't even factor into what I think of the movie now.

[Swan]

I'm a Fincher fan, but I'm no fan of Fight Club.

[The Gunslinger45]

If Tarantino is the cinematic equivalent of communism then Michael Bay must be the cinematic equivalent of capitalism - a broken system that is the logical conclusion of man's willingness to favour self-preservation over altruism where those who are most vocal about its flaws matter very little to the people who keep the system going out of greed or ignorance or both.

And yet Michael Bay can make a movie I actually like. :D;)

[The Gunslinger45]

I will never understand your hatred for Tarantino. He should be tailor made for you.

In any case, I don't rank him as a personal favorite but I LOVE Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained and really liked The Hateful 8. I like Pulp Fiction too, but haven't watched it in a long time. Reservoir Dogs is good but it didn't blow me away. I HATE both Kill Bill movies.

It is not hatred. If it was hatred this would be a far different list. But you are right he should be tailor made. He should be an all time favorite director. But he is not. Hence he is the biggest cinematic disappointment.

[False Writer]

I can understand being disappointed with Tarantino as there are a few of his films that I thought were quite boring and not that great (Inglorious Basterds being the biggest one) but I really can't understand it when people say Reservoir Dogs is boring. Its starts off with such a bang when you have a guy in the back of a car convulsing due to being shot in the stomach and there's blood everywhere. I just can't see how people find a beginning like that boring and uninteresting.

Anyways, great job on this and looking forward to the next list!

[False Writer]

I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that Fight Club can be so easily misunderstood and that people who missed the point at first (i.e. not realising that Tyler is actually a hypocritical villain instead of a smart and cool anti-hero) end up denouncing the movie as an ineffectual attempt at satire once they realise their error. At least, that's kind of where I'm at with it. I don't hate the movie or anything, but now that I've realised that my original appreciation of the movie stemmed from a misguided interpretation I feel like I need to re-evaluate it completely. The twist doesn't even factor into what I think of the movie now.

I always knew that Tyler was a bad guy but he was one of those charismatic bad guys that most people can't help but like. I think the ending makes it obvious enough that Tyler wasn't really an anti-hero but an evil entity who wanted to bring about chaos. Even the Narrator ended up realizing that which is why what happened at the end, happened.

I agree with Movie Med that there seems to be quite a few people that say they once liked it but then all of a sudden act like they're "above it" now and "outgrew" the movie. It's fine if they want to act like that but I've watched it a bunch of times over the course of 14 years and still think it's amazing, so I obviously don't agree with that sentiment.

[Camo]

I don't think i'm above it or have outgrew it, just think i've seen it too many times and i'm more into other kinds of films now. Still like it it's just not one of my favourites anymore.

[Swan]

I agree with Movie Med that there seems to be quite a few people that say they once liked it but then all of a sudden act like they're "above it" now and "outgrew" the movie. It's fine if they want to act like that but I've watched it a bunch of times over the course of 14 years and still think it's amazing, so I obviously don't agree with that sentiment.

That's ridiculous, sorry. I don't think I'm above it at all - I have simply not enjoyed it the last few times. Obviously everyone is different, and that's why you like it on repeat viewings while I didn't. Not because I think I'm "above it".

[Citizen Rules]

You got to try harder Guns to be controversial:p so far I agree with you!

[False Writer]

That's ridiculous, sorry. I don't think I'm above it at all - I have simply not enjoyed it the last few times. Obviously everyone is different, and that's why you like it on repeat viewings while I didn't. Not because I think I'm "above it".

Well the only reason I say it like that is because I remember a while ago someone literally said they "outgrew it" like it was some kind of kids movie, which kinda irked me. I have no problem with people just not liking it that much but giving odd reasons like that is when it sounds silly to me. I wasn't aiming at a particular person just talking about past experiences when discussing Fight Club.

[Iroquois]

If nothing else, this has made me wonder what films I'd put on a "biggest disappointments" list. Some of the major contenders would be Crank, Zombieland, Hobo with a Shotgun, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, Superbad, Pineapple Express, Grey Gardens, The Departed, and the films of Woody Allen.

[Roy C.]

I tell ya what film I was very disappointed in: Sleeper (1973). I expected something like Annie Hall or Play It again, Sam. I expected a film focused more on spoken lines, which is Wood Allen's strong suit, rather than goofy physical/prop comedy. For one, Sleeper has a number of quirky music sequences that just feel corny. And the music is annoying..lol. Not to mention Woody himself. While I generally find him funny, his personality can be irritating sometimes. Just the way he reacts to things. And the fact that he never shuts up...talks a mile a minute and goes nowhere.

[Kaplan]

I tell ya what film I was very disappointed in: Sleeper (1973). I expected something like Annie Hall or Play It again, Sam. I expected a film focused more on spoken lines, which is Wood Allen's strong suit, rather than goofy physical/prop comedy. For one, Sleeper has a number of quirky music sequences that just feel corny. And the music is annoying..lol. Not to mention Woody himself. While I generally find him funny, his personality can be irritating sometimes. Just the way he reacts to things. And the fact that he never shuts up...talks a mile a minute and goes nowhere.

I love Sleeper. "My brain? That's my second favorite organ." Which, funny enough, is my second favorite Woody Allen line. The only time I'm truly disappointed in Woody Allen is when he tries to channel his serious inner Bergman. A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy, though, is very funny.

I really like Quentin Tarantino, but I have been disappointed in some of his films, notably Death Proof, Kill Bill Vol.1, and Django Unchained. But Jackie Brown is still one of my very favorite movies.

Agree with the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels. I would add Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, everything to do with Star Wars after the original trilogy, Batman v Superman, and a bunch more I can't think of.

[Captain Spaulding]

Another excellent thread, Gunslinger! Your lists always make for a fun read. You've included some of my favorite films on here (The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Straw Dogs, Shaun of the Dead), and your number one disappointment is my number one favorite director, but you validly explain the reasons for your choices. Even good movies feel lackluster under the weight of hype and preconceptions, so I try to keep my expectations in check, but it's easier said than done.

Like you, I was also disappointed in Oldboy. I had watched and loved several South Korean thrillers, and I kept hearing from everyone that Oldboy was the best of the lot, but I was underwhelmed by it. I don't think I knew about the twist beforehand, but the big reveal didn't make much of an impact on me. Probably because I've seen that same theme role-played in so many porn videos. After all, incest is wincest. I saw Fight Club when it first came out, before it became every teenage boy's favorite movie, so I don't register it as a disappointment, but I have always been surprised by the level of praise it receives. I think it's a good movie, but I'd rank it near the bottom of Fincher's filmography, ahead of only Alien 3 and Panic Room.

If I'd had any expectation of Suicide Squad not sucking, it probably would've been a disappointment to me too, but I was able to get enough enjoyment out of Margot Robbie's slutty Harley Quinn shtick to help compensate for everything else wrong with the movie. I struggled to stay awake during 8 1/2. Out of all the movies that are consistently ranked near the top of these Greatest Films of All Time lists, that's the one I've struggled with the most. I'll give it another shot one day since I've liked/loved every other Fellini film I've seen. I liked The Crow when I was a kid, but I thought considerably less of it upon a recent re-watch. I agree with you about the POTC sequels, although I am still fond of Dead Man's Chest. I'm a little surprised by your reaction to Machete. I thought the immigration angle was too hokey to get riled up about. Prometheus is the biggest disappointment to me in recent memory. As for Alien vs. Predator, I don't think I'd even seen Alien yet at that point in time, so I wasn't hyped for it like other people. I'd definitely like to go back and play that AvP SNES game you referenced, though.

I'm not sure what would make my own version of this list. I know that Spider-Man 3 would be on there somewhere. And definitely Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, which I'm pretty sure killed something inside of me as a child, given how much I adored Mortal Kombat at the time. Coincidentally, I just watched Mortal Kombat: Annihilation the other night for the first time in twenty years, and it was every bit as bad as I remembered. F*cking CGI dragons. :facepalm:

Looking forward to your list of movies you like that other people hate. I figure either Tusk or Yoga Hosers will make an appearance. Maybe Pink Flamingos and Poultrygeist. No idea what else. I'll be curious to see if I fall more on the like or hate side of your selections.

[Mr Minio]

Mr Minio's top 1 Biggest Disappointment

This thread.

[honeykid]

I like this thread, GS. :up: I've repped the posts of the films I've seen.

[JayDee]

To echo the sentiment that has already been expressed several times, excellent thread GS. :up: And you know what, I'm probably on your side more than most people in regards to your choices.

Now Suicide Squad I've not actually seen but that's a result of being burned by Man of Steel which as you know I thought was dreadful. Following that I've not yet seen Suicide Squad or Batman v Superman. That said there's no chance of me being disappointed with SS because I'm expecting to hate it whenever I see it. While many people seemed to be getting really excited by the trailers, I never thought it looked anything other than awful. And tbh I think I turned on the film as soon as the pictures of Leto's Joker were revealed. Remember the people on here saying the tattoos were just for promotional purposes and that there was no way it would make the final film?

After the joyous fun of the first film, the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels really have gone on quite the downward spiral. The second film (Dead Man's Chest I think) was actually ok if I remember rightly but 3 and 4 were very poor. To me it felt like they fell into the trap that many film series do; they attempted to add depth and a darkness to the story and to build a big mythology around it. There seems to be a notion that just doing this instantly grants you respectability and dramatic weight; it's like they're trying to justify their existence. No, just follow the approach of the first film and just be fun, pure and simple. Instead they just became massive, bloated messes of over-arching storylines. The thing that really sticks in my mind about the 3rd film was when the voodoo witch lassie all of a sudden became a giant. That really was a "where the f*ck did that come from?" moment. :confused:

And then On Stranger Tides I think is actually the worst. Despite the diminshing returns I was actually looking forward to that one because the filmmakers had been making all the right noises prior to its release, talking about getting back to the fun romp of the first film. And after the series got dragged down by the bland romance of Will and Elisabeth, them being jettisoned was a welcome move. And then what did they do, they just went and replaced them with another bland romance; the mermaid and the missionary I think it was.

I'm with you on Shaun of the Dead just not being funny, simple as that. However unlike you I also thought that of Hot Fuzz. I just don't find either Simon Pegg or Nick Frost to be remotely funny. In fact I find them both to be remarkably irritating

And while I may not quite have your sense of apathy towards him I'm also no fan of Quentin Tarantino. I was a fan of Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs when I was younger but even my fondness for them has waned. Outside of those two however I'm just really not a big fan of any of his other work. And with perhaps the odd exception I've found it to be very much a case of diminshing returns. The longer he goes the more bloated, convoluted, egotistical and over-written his films seem to become. For me his films are in drastic need of a brutal editor, someone that will just come in and hack out at least 30-45 minutes. For a future film I'd love to see some very strict restrictions placed upon him, either in terms of budget or running time; something that would just force him to pare down and deliver something really lean. And for the love of God can he stop appearing in his own films! He cannot act to save his life and everytime he pops up it completely takes me out of the story.

There's actually only one disagreement I have with you; The Crow. I love that film and have done so since the first time I saw it at about 13 years old I think

[TONGO]

Uh, I liked Prometheus. :shrug:

Never understood the heavy negative reaction. Maybe people were expecting it to be another Alien movie, hardly, but what Prometheus did was start off what hopefully would be a new franchise. Hey, theres a thought! I feel when Ridley Scott ever releases the sequel to Prometheus, that it might improve peoples impression of it.

Personally Im intrigued about learning of the race that made the bio-engineered Aliens. If theyre so advanced physically, mentally, technologically, and think of man as ants......well, it has potential. :)

[doubledenim]

I have to ...

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...on the Crow.

I spent so much time with that soundtrack that I remember more about it than the movie.


A welcome change of pace to hear someone dissent on Tarantino. Hateful 8 is the only movie of his I really consider disappointing. There were other bad ones, but H8 is close to shameful.

[Guaporense]

Cool list. I agree Tarantino is overrated.

My biggest film disappointment was Raging Bull. While I found most of Scorsese's films to be extremely well made I found that film disappointing because I was expecting a movie like a Rocky movie and I got a film about De Niro being a depressed animalistic character.

[escapist]

Totally agree about Fight Club ... but not for the same reasons as yours.

My reasons are a bit less sophisticated ... I just thought it was a total waste of my time ... crap.

[The Gunslinger45]

To each their own.

[Shagz]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

[Blix the Goblin]

I agree with a lot of these, especially Fellini. I can't stand his films. The only movie you mentioned that I really love is Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

As for Tarantino, I respect the man more for the movies he champions than the movies he has made. I love his passion for exploitation/grindhouse/drive-in cinema and I share it. He's also a Xena fan, which scores a lot of points with me. Aside from the fact that he obviously drinks the PC liberal kool-aid they serve in Hollywood, he seems like a cool guy.

[Shagz]

1. Quentin Tarantino
http://cdn4.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/portrait_300x450/2014/11/quentin_tarantino_main.jpg

Now you can get your pitchforks ready people!

Quentin Tarantino. What am I going to do with you beside not watch your movies? To me Quentin Tarantino is the cinematic equivalent of Communism. On paper, sounds like a great idea but in practice leads to broken hopes and dreams and piles of dead bodies. But at least in QT’s flicks they just die in the movie world.

Okay ham fisted metaphor aside, I am just not a fan. Tarantino himself tops my list of film disappointments because in all honesty, he should be one of my favorite directors. He makes violent movies, many of them with themes of crime or revenge, has a similar love for exploitation flicks, likes to use modern music to create memorable scenes like Scorsese has done, has been known to incorporate dark humor, and has an unquestionable passion for film and filmmaking that I really like. Hell his list of favorite movies includes multiple films in my top 25 or flicks I just really like! And yet his films and me just have this giant disconnect.

It is not like Tarantino just made one movie to make me not like his style. I have tried to like his flicks. My first introduction to him as a filmmaker was when I was about 13 years old. Which you would think would a great age to see one of his movies. And Lord knows I grew up watching tons of violent movies. It was around this time he released Reservoir Dogs. Easily one of his most famous and popular works… and at 13 years old I fell asleep during the movie. Bored me to tears.

So I did not like Reservoir Dogs. That is fine. After all it was just one movie. The biggest disappointment came when me and my brother tried to rent Pulp Fiction. Remember when I said in my The Crow segment there was a 4th movie I was forbidden to rent? Pulp Fiction was that final movie. So for about 3 years or so I waited thinking this flick was going to blow me away. I mean it had to right? There had to be SOME reason that I was not allowed to see it. And I had heard so many other people say how great the movie was. And finally me and my brother rented it when he turned 18. He really liked it. I was very disappointed. It was just… average. I liked the part in the Pawn Shop, but everything else was just not appealing.

My biggest issue after seeing 6 of his films is that I feel I just can’t connect with his trademark hyper stylized dialogue. And that is one of the biggest things his rabid fan base claim to be best about his movies. They love his dialogue. I just don’t care for it. And as a teenager I was getting into dialogue heavy films in a big bad way. Clerks was among my favorite movies and I was learning to really dig older less action oriented movies. And despite all of this, Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs were just flat.

Now I continued to try and find something Tarantino did that I would like. Or at least be good. I tried Kill Bill, Kill Bill 2, and Death Proof (part of the Grindhouse double feature in cinemas). But outside of a few scenes here or there I was just not impressed. His films were just one meh after another. Because for me, Tarantino writes certain scenes very well; but just not the whole of the film. Now when I do find myself liking something Tarantino is attached to is when he acts as producer to a Robert Rodriguez movie. Then again I think Rodriguez is the better director. The final Tarantino directed film I saw was Inglorious Bastards. And I flat out HATED the movie. Over long, draw out, over inflated, and in desperate need of an editor. Not to mention the title characters The Bastards are barely in the film, but are the center piece for the advertisements. What is he paying homage this time? Michael Bay’s Transformer movies?

But the final nail in the coffin for me was years later. Even after Inglorious Bastards, I wanted to give Tarantino one last try. And I did so by trying to rewatch Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. Maybe a rewatch would help. There have been plenty of movies I have rewatched that I ended up really liking. It worked for Blade Runner and Apocalypse Now. Hell it worked for Taxi Driver! So just a few years ago when I was still in the Army I sat down and watched both movies over again. And each time it was the same thing. Average. Meh. I just do not connect to these movies at all. It was then I finally just gave up on Tarantino. The guy is just not for me. Lord Knows I gave him more than his share of chances.


Aaaaaahhhhhh!

[mark f]

To each their own.
Only if they have split personalities.:cool: