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Whoever wins this **** of an election, you all know were gonna be missing Barack Obama the next 4 years. :yup:
Kimmel: Obama Reads Trump's Mean Tweet, Achieves Mic-Drop Moment
When Barack Obama agreed to read a series of mean tweets on Monday’s Jimmy Kimmel Live, he probably didn’t expect one of them to be from presidential candidate Donald Trump.
After a series of putdowns equating POTUS to Nickelback, bad hair conditioner and the Sharknado franchise, the president read aloud a recent quip from Trump declaring that “President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States!”
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Firing back, Obama remarked that “at least I will go down as a president” before dropping the mic (AKA phone).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvgnOqcCYCM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/760552601356267520
Later, during a sit-down with Kimmel, Obama expressed concern about Trump’s behavior, where he articulated that “there is a certain responsibility and expectation in terms of how you behave and how you present yourself” as a presidential candidate.
“Look, we joke about Donald Trump, but I do think… there’s something qualitatively different about the way [he] has operated in the political sphere,” Obama said. “[W]hat we haven’t seen before, I think, is somebody questioning the integrity of elections and the will of the people… a politics based on putting down, in very explicit terms, Muslim Americans who are patriots, or describing women not in terms of their intellect and their character, but on a 1-10 score.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpKIQlKwKo
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/kimmel-obama-reads-trumps-mean-tweet-achieves-mic-drop-moment/ar-AAjn2JQ?li=BBnb7Kz
Mr Minio
10-25-16, 01:44 PM
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US Presidency makes your hair grey!
matt72582
10-25-16, 03:04 PM
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US Presidency makes your hair grey!
8 years makes anyone look older.
8 years makes anyone look older.
True, but the job does age you. I shudder to think what Hillary would look like in 8 years as President, I dont think she'll get re-elected though.
I too think he will be missed,hopefully she does a decent job though- the one thing i didnt like about the obamas was that at times they acted a bit more like celebrities than the president and first lady.
and of course him winning the nobel prize.
Mandwa Mona Rudao
10-27-16, 03:09 AM
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US Presidency makes your hair grey!
Goodbye mister part teflon. Presidents are gonna get some deep hatred now!!!!!!!
He;ll be missed in the same sense that Hillary will be missed in 2020 or 2024, Overall he was a pretty terrible President both subjectively if you agree with him since other than his Supreme Court Noms he really didn't make any progress; and objectively with his failure to keep the house/senate. Him being the first non-white male president means something, i guess.
Well, he was a classy leader in an imperfect system, and did his best. His time in office wasnt wasted, and no President comes out unscathed. I like him. You think Hillary or The Donald can talk plainly to people, as if theyre one of them? I dont. Its because they arent.
Some clips as hes campaigning for Hillary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryVyZ__7PGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7STR7bKXH9E
His talking should have no bearing on him as a President. Conmen can also "talk to the people like they're one of them".
Neither should the fact he is classy. I admit he is very likeable but that doesn't mean he was a good president.
Obama strikes back at GOP senator who put him in campaign ad
HARRISBURG, Pa. — President Barack Obama struck back at Republican U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey on Saturday for using footage of the Democrat praising Toomey's courage in a TV campaign ad in his life-or-death re-election bid in Pennsylvania.
In a statement to The Associated Press, Obama said Toomey needed to do more to show courage than taking one right vote on legislation to expand background checks all firearms purchases online and at gun shows.
"Courage is telling Pennsylvania voters where you stand on the tough issues, not just the easy ones like background checks," Obama said in the statement. "Pat Toomey won't tell Pennsylvania voters where he stands on Donald Trump, trying instead to have it both ways by telling different people what he thinks they want to hear. That's not courage. Voting to shut down the government and against bills to close the terrorist gun loophole isn't courage. And playing politics with the Supreme Court isn't courage."
Obama has endorsed Toomey's opponent, Democrat Katie McGinty, who served in Bill Clinton's White House and was recruited by national Democrats to run against Toomey.
Toomey, who compiled one of Congress' most conservative voting records, is among the Senate's most vulnerable incumbents in a state where Democrats have a 4 to 3 registration advantage over Republicans. The race could help tip control of the Senate to Democrats.
Toomey has been a tough critic of Obama, and opposed practically all of Obama's major policy initiatives, from health care to immigration. He routinely delivers a stump speech that labels Obama's economic and foreign policies as complete failures.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-strikes-back-at-gop-senator-who-put-him-in-campaign-ad/ar-AAjWFSi
His talking should have no bearing on him as a President. Conmen can also "talk to the people like they're one of them".
Neither should the fact he is classy. I admit he is very likeable but that doesn't mean he was a good president.
If communication skills arent an indicator, and they are, then you could say Reagan wasnt a good President. Theres no such thing as a President thats had a perfect tenure, but hes been accountable, he hasnt embarrased us. Yes, I do believe he was a good President regardless of the House/Senate positionings and the supreme court appointees. Seems odd hearing someone from Scotland talking this way. Do you really think those 2 things are what makes a good President?
Poor Obama thread.
I posted this link in the Trump thread but its applicable here too.....not that anybodys reading this right now. :laugh:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obama-cerebral-palsy_us_581ffb8de4b0aac62485438c
Composure check :yup:
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Really enjoyed his speech the morning after the election. Classy stuff.
It's pretty clear that everyone leaves this job humbled, which is why ex-Presidents generally get along so well. They all know what it's like.
I hope and pray the same will happen with Trump.
matt72582
11-10-16, 03:44 PM
Really enjoyed his speech the morning after the election. Classy stuff.
It's pretty clear that everyone leaves this job humbled, which is why ex-Presidents generally get along so well. They all know what it's like.
I hope and pray the same will happen with Trump.
I think it's also because it becomes an "inside" thing.. Only 45 men have been President, so there's a relation, and maybe a little bit of respect. Once you are inside, you can't unlearn that experience.
I've never been an Obama supporter, but I enjoyed his speech, which I thought he handled really well.
Miss Vicky
11-10-16, 04:14 PM
I didn't vote for Obama in either election (I voted third party), but he actually pleasantly surprised me with the way he handled certain things and I think this country made a lot of progress under his term as president. Unfortunately Trump's determined to reverse all of it and I can only hope he doesn't succeed.
I think Obama endured an unprecedented level of hatred and opposition, and he handled it well, and in the end our country is better than it was when he took office. Obviously, he took over as the economy was crashing, but he reigned in the recession. We've had growth, slow as it's been. There were no major foreign terrorist attacks in our country (and no, attacks from immigrants who've been in the country for over ten years don't count). We can nitpick what he could've/should've done, and there are real criticisms a reasonable person can level at him--as there are with every president. The funny part is he was rarely criticized for the legitimate reasons, because there were those who were so hung up on their fantasy criticisms.
It's also funny how eight years ago I was hearing how Obama was going to do all these things to destroy our country, whether it was take away all our guns or destroy our constitution or crash our economy or whatever, and yet none of those things happened. We're every bit as recognizable as America now as we were then.
Yes, I will miss him. Yes, I wish he'd done some things differently, but I will definitely miss having a sane person as my president. And for eight years I've been listening to the outrageous hatred toward this man, and yet I'm supposed to turn around and respect Trump...? I don't think so. And no, I'm not hoping Trump fails. It's pretty certain he will, but I'm hoping his failure is just that he's exposed as the fraud he is, because I'm pretty certain the actual job of leading the country will be done by those around him. That's how he operates. Let's hope it works, let's hope he surrounds himself with people more reasonable than himself and Rudy Giuliani.
I think Obama endured an unprecedented level of hatred and opposition, and he handled it well, and in the end our country is better than it was when he took office. Obviously, he took over as the economy was crashing, but he reigned in the recession. We've had growth, slow as it's been. There were no major foreign terrorist attacks in our country (and no, attacks from immigrants who've been in the country for over ten years don't count). We can nitpick what he could've/should've done, and there are real criticisms a reasonable person can level at him--as there are with every president. The funny part is he was rarely criticized for the legitimate reasons, because there were those who were so hung up on their fantasy criticisms.
It's also funny how eight years ago I was hearing how Obama was going to do all these things to destroy our country, whether it was take away all our guns or destroy our constitution or crash our economy or whatever, and yet none of those things happened. We're every bit as recognizable as America now as we were then.
Yes, I will miss him. Yes, I wish he'd done some things differently, but I will definitely miss having a sane person as my president. And for eight years I've been listening to the outrageous hatred toward this man, and yet I'm supposed to turn around and respect Trump...? I don't think so.
These are precisely my thoughts on the matter. Well said.
I'm not sure a Trump "failure" can really be quantified enough to speculate whether it will or won't happen (although that hasn't stopped Obama's critics from claiming his presidency was a failure long before it was close to being done). Rather, I'm more fearful that the issues and policies that matter to me will be ignored.
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Obama: People should 'reconcile themselves' to Trump
President Obama said Americans had to "reconcile themselves" to the Trump presidency, but maintained that he was optimistic about the future of the country and his Democratic party.
Answering questions from reporters for the first time since voters handed the White House over to a candidate who promised to dismantle his agenda, Obama also pledged to give President-elect Donald Trump the space he needs to put together a new government. He declined to comment on the appointment of alt-right firebrand Stephen Bannon to a top role in his White House, and steered clear of his pre-election contention that Trump would make a dangerous president.
"Look, the people have spoken. Donald Trump will be the next president, the 45th president of the United States. Those who didn't vote for him have to understand, that's how the system works. That's how democracy operates," he said. "Whenever you have an incoming president on the other side, particularly after a contentious election like we've had, it takes a while for people to reconcile themselves to that new reality. Hopefully it's a reminder that elections matter."
The news conference provided a way for Obama to get domestic politics out of the way before he departs Monday night for a weeklong, three-country foreign trip that's expected to be the last of his presidency. "I figure, why wait?" he told reporters.
That trip — to Greece, Germany and Peru — will give Obama a chance to reassure allies that bipartisan commitments are more enduring than any one administration. He's scheduled three news conferences during the trip, one on each leg, adding up to an extraordinary one-week stretch in which he'll face the press four times.
At the Monday news conference, Obama addressed:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-people-should-reconcile-themselves-to-trump/ar-AAkhPbM?li=BBnb7Kz
Sexy Celebrity
11-14-16, 06:27 PM
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Donald Trump is a Sexy Celebrity joke on a national scale.
GOP to Obama: We’re gonna miss you — seriously (:laugh: I cant guess a damn thing on Westworld, but I sure called this one.)
ORLANDO, Fla. — Republican governors have a surprising message for President Barack Obama: We’ll miss you.
Their demonize-Obama strategy has worked spectacularly well politically, said Republicans. Obama has “presided over one of the most remarkable resurrections of the Republican Party,” Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin told the Republican Governors Association, meeting this week at Orlando’s Waldorf Astoria resort.
He and others proudly reeled off the numbers: In Obama’s first year in office in 2009, there were 22 Republican governors. Now there will be at least 33, the party’s strongest State House showing since 1922.
Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress when Obama first won the White House. Republicans this year have their biggest House of Representatives majority since 1931, and will return next year with almost as strong a majority. And though 24 of the 34 Senate seats up for election this year were held by Republicans, the party emerged with a majority.
Now, they need to score another way — by governing.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-to-obama-we’re-gonna-miss-you-—-seriously/ar-AAko11Y?li=BBnb7Kz
Movie Max
11-16-16, 08:10 PM
Environmentally speaking, he wasn't too good for the forestry sector. What a paper-pusher.:)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqEQW3EBEUE
Environmentally speaking, he wasn't too good for the forestry sector. What a paper-pusher.:)
http://i.imgur.com/fTwfaNM.png
A cutsie meme. Meanwhile your boy Trump is depowering the EPA by making someone that was suing the EPA, the head of the EPA.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/07/trump-names-scott-pruitt-oklahoma-attorney-general-suing-epa-on-climate-change-to-head-the-epa/?utm_term=.ba4b97840a5d
Why? He is a special interest puppet. Just because someone has puppets doesnt mean they cant be one themselves. ;)
Movie Max
12-26-16, 02:34 PM
You win!
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White House announces retaliation against Russia: Sanctions, ejecting diplomats
(CNN)President Barack Obama took unprecedented steps Thursday to retaliate against alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, prompting vows from Russian authorities that Moscow will respond in kind.
The administration described Russia's involvement as "Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" and sanctioned four Russian individuals and five Russian entities for what it said was election interference. The administration also ordered 35 Russian diplomats to leave the country and two Russian compounds are being closed.
This is the first time the names of Russian officials involved in the hacking have become public on the sanctions list. "Russia's cyberactivities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government," a White House statement said. "These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."
According to statements from the White House and the Treasury Department, the government has sanctioned nine entities and individuals over their alleged interference in the election: the GRU and the FSB, which are two Russian intelligence services; four individual officers of the GRU; and three companies that provided material support to the GRU's operations.
The US also separately sanctioned two Russian individuals, Evgeniy Mikhailovich Bogachev and Alexey Belan, for using cyber-enabled means to allegedly cause misappropriation of funds and personal identifying information. They've long been sought by the FBI.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/politics/russia-sanctions-announced-by-white-house/index.html
Obama puts Trump on the spot with Russia sanctions
(CNN)President Barack Obama, at long, long last, responded forcefully to Russia's unprecedented interference in America's democratic process. We can all wonder what might have happened if he had acted sooner, but that question no longer matters.
The question now is what President-elect Donald Trump will do when he takes office in less than a month.
After all, Trump's acquiescent attitude towards anything having to do with Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin, is so baffling, so dismissive of American institutions and arguably of the country's interests, that it has become the most corrosive point of contention between Trump and members of his own party.
On Thursday, Obama issued an executive order that, among other things, expels 35 Russian intelligence operatives and shuts down two Russian compounds in the US. The text of the executive order describes the strong sanctions as "steps to deal with the national emergency with respect to significant malicious cyber-enabled activities ... to undermine democratic processes and institutions."
US security agencies have been in agreement that Russian-backed hackers deliberately stole emails from the Democratic National Committee and from Hillary Clinton's campaign chief John Podesta, then moved to have the private emails made public in an effort to help Trump, Putin's favored candidate, win the election.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/opinions/russia-sanctions-ghitis/index.html
A-Listers Party At The White House Until Morning To Say Goodbye To Barack Obama
People who won’t be showing up for Donald Trump’s inauguration.
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With only two weeks left until Barack and Michelle Obama vacate the White House for good, the first family welcomed a host of celebrity guests on Friday night for a star-studded farewell party.
Aside from an awards show, there haven’t been this many famous people gathered in one room since a casting call for a holiday-themed Garry Marshall romantic comedy.
The White House bash effectively serves as the kickoff to events celebrating President Obama’s time in office, leading up to his final address, which he’ll deliver in Chicago on Jan. 10. Days later, President-elect Donald Trump will call 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. home after his inauguration, for which he’s struggled to find big-name performers.
In contrast, Obama’s farewell party attracted some of the biggest A-listers around. Attendees reportedly included Meryl Streep, George and Amal Clooney, Robert De Niro, Beyoncé and Jay Z, Nick Jonas, Jordin Sparks, David Letterman, Paul McCartney, Kelly Rowland, Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis...
Are you tired yet?
... Samuel Jackson, Magic Johnson, Tom Hanks, Rev. Al Sharpton, Jerry Seinfeld, Stevie Wonder, Charles Barkley Steven Spielberg, Marc Anthony, Sarah Jessica Parker, Tyler Perry, Chrissy Teigen and John Legend...
And, yes, even more.
Photos from inside the event were likely restricted, but that didn’t stop celebrities from sharing pics from the White House grounds on social media about the party that kept Washington, D.C., awake until early Saturday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/celebs-partied-at-the-white-house-until-morning-to-say-goodbye-to-obama_us_58710bf7e4b043ad97e3a945?
In farewell speech, Obama warns of threats to U.S. democracy
With just ten days remaining in his presidency, President Obama on Tuesday night outlined his achievements in the White House and told Americans that U.S. democracy is under threat.
In his almost hour-long speech, a visibly emotional Mr. Obama argued that the country is at a pivotal point in its history -- and that forces beyond our control are threatening American democracy. What will keep the country together, he said, is a sense of “solidarity.”
The speech seemed at times squarely aimed at his successor, President-elect Donald Trump -- despite the fact that Mr. Obama said Mr. Trump’s name just one time.
“There have been moments throughout our history that threatened to rupture that solidarity -- the beginning of this century has been one of those times,” he said. “A shrinking world, growing inequality; demographic change and the specter of terrorism – these forces haven’t just tested our security and prosperity, but they’re testing our democracy as well.”
Mr. Obama acknowledged the tradition of a peaceful transition of power, saying he was committed to making it the “smoothest possible.”
“In ten days, the world will witness a hallmark of our democracy: the peaceful transfer of power from one freely-elected president to the next,” he said, to boos from the crowd. “I committed to President-elect Trump that my administration would ensure the smoothest possible transition, just as President Bush did for me.”
He said it’s normal and understandable for people to disagree on the best path forward for the country -- but outlined three potent forces working to challenge American democracy that will require unity of purpose going forward.
One major threat, he said, is that of rising economic inequality and concern that government “only serves the interests of the powerful.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-farewell-speech-obama-warns-of-threats-to-us-democracy/ar-BBy8Oxt?li=BBnb7Kz
Everyone wave good bye :(
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/821371347012087808
Accomplishments
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/815600798558208001
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/815601279716225024
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/815601640124387328
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/815601969154899969
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/815603416089194496
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/819044196371800065
Friendly Mushroom!
01-19-17, 09:40 PM
Bye Obama. I will sort of miss your administration.
Though I will not say he was a really good president, I will compliment him for keeping America semi stable for now and being respectable and being better intentioned than Trump and most other people. (which contrary to what I used to think of Obama years ago, sharing my parents' opinion that he is a arrogant "I don't work, I play golf," guy.) Overall, I'm neutral when it comes to Obama.
EDIT: Here's a good article I found that looks unbiased. (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510491692/the-america-donald-trump-is-inheriting-by-the-numbers)
Captain Steel
01-19-17, 11:10 PM
It's amazing that someone of mixed race could be 100% racist against one race and in favor of another.
Probably one of the most blatantly racist Presidents in American history and the first to openly favor a fascist political ideology that embraces genocide and which continuously attacked Americans at home and abroad throughout his entire Presidency over the major religious philosophies held by many of the founding fathers and which were incorporated into America's basic Constitutional ideals of equality & freedom.
It's amazing that someone of mixed race could be 100% racist against one race and in favor of another.
Probably one of the most blatantly racist Presidents in American history and the first to openly favor a fascist political ideology that embraces genocide and which continuously attacked Americans at home and abroad throughout his entire Presidency over the major religious philosophies held by many of the founding fathers and which were incorporated into America's basic Constitutional ideals of equality & freedom.
Not. Smart. Stuff. :nope:
This comes from a finger-point philosophy of us vs them which we seem to be de-evolving towards. I posted an Obama video on YouTube, and some seemingly "nice guy" started chatting me up, and then lo and behold he was a white supremacist. :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4xoSmwEg_A
You can see the exchange in the comments section if you go to YouTube.
Just noticing this Trump movement is bringing out the "white groups" and such talk. Disgusting really.
Friendly Mushroom!
01-19-17, 11:30 PM
Yeah, it is kind of hard to believe how neo-nazis are gaining enough strength to rival extreme politically correct people.
Captain Steel
01-19-17, 11:36 PM
I'll check it out, Tongs. (It's not me chatting you on YouTube.)
I can't go into detail, but I have a fatwah of sorts out against me by certain white supremacist groups - years ago I publicly challenged one of their leaders (all I can tell you was his first name was Matt, he's been on TV, and he used an American flag as his doormat - literally. I believe he served time, but I don't know of his current status).
Anyway - I oppose all racists, whether they're in the White House, below the Mason Dixon line or if they want us dead because their so-called religion dictates they kill anyone who doesn't accept their philosophy. I'm an equal-opportunity hate opposer! ;)
I oppose Political Correctness because it aims to keep race as one of it's main focuses, constantly trying to keep it in the public consciousness as a source of agitation & turmoil, as it seeks to establish inequality by constantly fanning the flames of bigotry and racism.
I'll check it out, Tongs. (It's not me chatting you on YouTube.)
I can't go into detail, but I have a fatwah of sorts out against me by certain white supremacist groups - years ago I publicly challenged one of their leaders (all I can tell you was his first name was Matt, he's been on TV, and he used an American flag as his doormat - literally. I believe he served time, but I don't know of his current status).
Anyway - I oppose all racists, whether they're in the White House, below the Mason Dixon line or if they want us dead because their so-called religion dictates they kill anyone who doesn't accept their philosophy. I'm an equal-opportunity hate opposer! ;)
I oppose Political Correctness because it aims to keep race as one of it's main & focuses, constantly trying to put in into the public consciousness as a source of agitation & turmoil, as it seeks to establish inequality by constantly fanning the flames of bigotry and racism.
Yeah youre against all hate. I thought the "race issues" were overblown in America, but truthfully I was ignorant. If Obama set into motion programs or laws which would specifically benefit a minority, non-white............ok. Whats the big deal? You think a white President wouldnt have done the same thing for a minority vote? Hardly a scathing epitaph to leave behind in a Presidents tenure.
Its not about Political Correctness but cause and effect. If someones of the mindest like that idiot on YouTube where the thinking is "Whites gotta protect whats ours!" then he has no idea what America is. America isnt white, and people just got to get over that.
Steel, you labeling Obama as a racist .........borrowing Iro's Cage pic ; )
http://img.memecdn.com/staring-contest_gp_2431007.jpg
Well it doesnt come off like youre fighting hate at all. Ive personally dealt with black folks that hated whites, Barack Obama isnt a bigot.
Captain Steel
01-19-17, 11:56 PM
Whew! I just checked... and luckily, Matt Hale is still in jail (hey, that rhymes!) with a 40 year sentence. He won't be out until 2037! So I've got a few years before he comes for revenge.
That doesn't mean he doesn't have "friends" on the outside who can't get to me, but at least I can say his name (he is on Wikipedia which makes him a public figure). As long as I don't say my name, I should be okay! ;)
Anyway, Matt Hale knows me as the guy who asked "what would the world be like without Jewish Rye?" That began the war. (I told him we already beat the Nazis once, and I was ready to do it again - personally if need be.)
I'm not sure who I despise more; Nazis or Terrorists. All I know is none of them like me because I keep working to put them in jail! :devil:
Captain Steel
01-19-17, 11:58 PM
Yeah youre against all hate. I thought the "race issues" were overblown in America, but truthfully I was ignorant. If Obama set into motion programs or laws which would specifically benefit a minority, non-white............ok. Whats the big deal? You think a white President wouldnt have done the same thing for a minority vote? Hardly a scathing epitaph to leave behind in a Presidents tenure.
Its not about Political Correctness but cause and effect. If someones of the mindest like that idiot on YouTube where the thinking is "Whites gotta protect whats ours!" then he has no idea what America is. America isnt white, and people just got to get over that.
Steel, you labeling Obama as a racist .........borrowing Iro's Cage pic ; )
http://img.memecdn.com/staring-contest_gp_2431007.jpg
Well it doesnt come off like youre fighting hate at all. Ive personally dealt with black folks that hated whites, Barack Obama isnt a bigot.
Well, all I know is, if Barack had a son, he wouldn't look like Nicholas Cage. ;)
tatmmw2
01-20-17, 12:31 AM
I don't know why I understand this post as The ExPresident Barack Obama is Missing :laugh:
Captain Steel
01-20-17, 12:34 AM
Tomorrow, TONGO... tomorrow... tomorrow, Barack Obama goes on America's Ignore User list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlJXW_DplYQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNl6fYHqDpw)
You've got to be out of your mind.
Captain Steel
01-20-17, 02:11 AM
You've got to be out of your mind.
...please pass the ketchup, I think I'll go to bed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiU_1ruP0kk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVA8o8Ur1wM)
https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16195265_1394151377344579_4438735728644751108_n.jpg?oh=3cb9e9909ce5109457052ba3f8392a19&oe=590049E8
That's a bit of a rhetorical trick: the deficit is a year-to-year number, so it's weird to say "the deficit was X when they took office and Y when they left," as if the deficits they ran in the intervening years don't matter, or count.
It should say national debt, instead. But that would spoil the whole thing, since it went up under both of them (indeed, it goes up under every President), and it went up dramatically under Obama. The only reason they can say something like the above is because the yearly deficit was very bad when he took office, and continued to be very bad for years after, and is marginally less bad now as he's leaving it, which is a ridiculously low bar to clear.
Besides, a conservative could come back with "the deficit went down under Clinton after Republicans took control over Congress." Congress does, after all, control the actual purse strings.
That's a bit of a rhetorical trick: the deficit is a year-to-year number, so it's weird to say "the deficit was X when they took office and Y when they left," as if the deficits they ran in the intervening years don't matter, or count.
It should say national debt, instead. But that would spoil the whole thing, since it went up under both of them (indeed, it goes up under every President), and it went up dramatically under Obama. The only reason they can say something like the above is because the yearly deficit was very bad when he took office, and continued to be very bad for years after, and is marginally less bad now as he's leaving it, which is a ridiculously low bar to clear.
Besides, a conservative could come back with "the deficit went down under Clinton after Republicans took control over Congress." Congress does, after all, control the actual purse strings.
Still though, 50 years. Thats an extremely long time period, and to have only 2 presidents lower the deficit in five decades is somewhat telling. Its pointless anyway as no one party system is best for the country.
Im hoping the 2 parties wake the hell up and decide to work together. I doubt this is gonna happen from leadership like everyone was hoping for. Maybe they will to spite the leadership.
Movie Max
01-31-17, 09:48 AM
The comedy show continues...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLx1EKifpGs
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/836897070938271744
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/836877195268276224
Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/03/02/us/02intel1/02intel1-master768.jpg
President Obama in December. Some in his administration feared that intelligence about Russian interference in the 2016 election could be covered up or destroyed.
WASHINGTON — In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government. Former American officials say they had two aims: to ensure that such meddling isn’t duplicated in future American or European elections, and to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators.
American allies, including the British and the Dutch, had provided information describing meetings in European cities between Russian officials — and others close to Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin — and associates of President-elect Trump, according to three former American officials who requested anonymity in discussing classified intelligence.
Separately, American intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of Russian officials, some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Trump associates.
The disclosures about the contacts came as new questions were raised about Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s ties to the Russians. According to a former senior American official, he met with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, twice in the past year. The details of the meetings were not clear, but the contact appeared to contradict testimony Mr. Sessions provided Congress during his confirmation hearing in January when he said he “did not have communications with the Russians.”
Mr. Sessions said in a statement late Wednesday that he “never met with any Russian officials to discuss issues of the campaign.”
“I have no idea what this allegation is about,” he said. “It is false.”
Mr. Trump has denied that his campaign had any contact with Russian officials, and at one point he openly suggested that American spy agencies had cooked up intelligence suggesting that the Russian government had tried to meddle in the presidential election. Mr. Trump has accused the Obama administration of hyping the Russia story line as a way to discredit his new administration.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
I didnt follow his politics so have no idea why so many people disliked him (apart from the absurd 'he's a muslim' conspiracy) but I miss Obama and Michelle. I thought they were a very classy first couple. And they're dog lovers so what's not to love.
I miss Obama, yes.
And I'm telling you this as someone who:
-Frequently referred to him as "Obozo"
-Hated many of his policies
-Hated his handling of several economic situations
Yet, I do miss him. Seeing Trumpbozo has made me realize how much better Obozo really was. At least under Obama I didn't feel fear for my wife (a legal immigrant) and fear racist attacks against us. At least my wife and I didn't feel a compulsion to get her citizenship as soon as possible because of a heavily anti-immigration president.
Trump is the first president in my life that I've feared. THAT is saying something.
I bet he watched this and laughed his bum off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYuZlhCPbjM
What does trumpty do when he sees crack videos of himself? Angry tears and ferocious tweets.
TJLamb0518
03-02-17, 02:40 PM
I miss Obama, yes.
And I'm telling you this as someone who:
-Frequently referred to him as "Obozo"
-Hated many of his policies
-Hated his handling of several economic situations
Yet, I do miss him. Seeing Trumpbozo has made me realize how much better Obozo really was. At least under Obama I didn't feel fear for my wife (a legal immigrant) and fear racist attacks against us. At least my wife and I didn't feel a compulsion to get her citizenship as soon as possible because of a heavily anti-immigration president.
Trump is the first president in my life that I've feared. THAT is saying something.
You wouldn't miss him if you'd lead your shots and compensate for the wind.....
Barack Obama has a plan for the Trump era
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAofCQ8.img?h=680&w=1019&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=622&y=312
In the cafes of New York City and the offices of Chicago, blue America seeks his wisdom like he’s a prophet or a sage. What should we do? they ask. Show us the path.
He likes to respond with a joke — a dad joke.
“Well, you could move to Wyoming or North Dakota,” Barack Obama has taken to telling city liberals, according to one of his senior aides.
Since leaving the White House, Obama has publicly embraced the traditionally apolitical role of most former American presidents. "He's been looking forward to a life without the title of president that automatically draws resistance and the Pavlovian response of opposition," says one adviser close to Obama. "As a former president, you are liberated from that baggage and can reach people in a way that's not so political.”
But even as Obama tries to transcend partisanship, his jokes suggest political aims. This is the tension that already dominates his post-presidency, as revealed by interviews with six current and former aides to the former president: Obama wants to rise above the partisan muck, but he’s also eager to accomplish goals that are inescapably political in nature.
His team has a workaround. Obama’s aides say he believes that if he can take politically neutral steps to improve democracy — by bringing people together through “civic engagement,” or by giving grassroots activists the tools for community organizing — then that will change the political landscape that culminated in Donald Trump’s election, while also keeping Obama himself above the fray.
Critics to his left and right say this theory is riddled with contradictions. They note that it has left Obama largely silent as Trump hacks away at his signature achievements, while simultaneously working behind the scenes to thwart a branch of activists in his own party.
What may be even more perplexing, critics say, is that Obama is still chasing the mirage of a nonpartisan solution to America’s political crisis, after eight years of failing to find it in the White House.
But Obama thinks he has a model for success. And it begins with his wife.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barack-obama-has-a-plan-for-the-trump-era/ar-AAofCQk?li=BBnb7Kz
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/844896595179180034
Sad that it takes an ex-President to say what our current President wont be bothered to say.
Omnizoa
03-28-17, 09:33 AM
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAjn7xk.img?h=588&w=868&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=400&y=127
Firing back, Obama remarked that “at least I will go down as a president” before dropping the mic (AKA phone).
This hasn't aged well.
Omnizoa
03-28-17, 09:50 AM
Incidentally I do not miss Obama. I think he was a crap president.
This hasn't aged well.
Its funny, Obama said Trump wouldnt be President - he is. Trump said Obama was the worst President ever, yet Trump is.
If the national debt is a mirage then I would say Obama was fine. If it's the house of cards economists say, he couldn't have been much worse.
Cobpyth
03-28-17, 10:41 AM
If the national debt is a mirage then I would say Obama was fine. If it's the house of cards economists say, he couldn't have been much worse.
True. Bush was a disaster as well, though.
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True. Bush was a disaster as well, though.
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Absolutely. If the thread was missing Bush I would probably write the exact same post. I think both those presidents were true to their ideals, were doing the best they could, and were abysmal for the debt.
I should add both were fairly moderate compared to a lot of what we are seeing now.
Cobpyth
03-28-17, 10:47 AM
I think both those presidents were true to their ideals, were doing the best they could, and were abysmal for the debt.
I strongly agree. It's probably time for the US to go for another more pragmatic president instead of an idealist, in order to control the explosion of debt in an intelligent manner. Trump doesn't seem to be that guy, though.
Scary that Im seeing a much worse President than what Dubya was in my lifetime. Chilling actually.
President Pence....I could get used to saying that ;) Wont be surprised if Trump is impeached within 2 years. Im sure he'll mewl and whine himself into a martyr role for his departure.
Scary that Im seeing a much worse President than what Dubya was in my lifetime. Chilling actually.
President Pence....I could get used to saying that ;) Wont be surprised if Trump is impeached within 2 years. Im sure he'll mewl and whine himself into a martyr role for his departure.
What were your major beefs with Bush?
What were your major beefs with Bush?
He was pompous, overrated, and spoiled. He was abusing his power to go after Hussein too. Didnt help to start things off was the most suspiciously close election in history.
Omnizoa
03-29-17, 01:00 AM
What were your major beefs with Bush?
He was pompous, overrated, and spoiled. He was abusing his power to go after Hussein too. Didnt help to start things off was the most suspiciously close election in history.
His policies besides?
He was pompous, overrated, and spoiled. He was abusing his power to go after Hussein too. Didnt help to start things off was the most suspiciously close election in history.
the iraq war was probably his worst decision . let loose horror in the middle east .
Dexter007
03-29-17, 01:30 AM
His policies besides?
For me personally, his views on gay marriage, his economic policies, his failure to adhere to global environmental standards and his overall bumbling persona and lack of "speechification techniques" were all a giant load of crap that made him sink lower and
lower and lower. Oh, and torture, but Obama's guilty of that too.
Omnizoa
03-29-17, 02:45 AM
His policies besides?
For me personally, his views on gay marriage, his economic policies, his failure to adhere to global environmental standards and his overall bumbling persona and lack of "speechification techniques" were all a giant load of crap that made him sink lower and
lower and lower. Oh, and torture, but Obama's guilty of that too.
And you believe Trump is more of the same?
Dexter007
03-29-17, 03:26 AM
Yes
His policies besides?
the iraq war was probably his worst decision . let loose horror in the middle east .
For me personally, his views on gay marriage, his economic policies, his failure to adhere to global environmental standards and his overall bumbling persona and lack of "speechification techniques" were all a giant load of crap that made him sink lower and
lower and lower. Oh, and torture, but Obama's guilty of that too.
Agreed, though Im not against non-sexual torture to gain intel.
Trump has all of Dubyas shortcomings but is even more clueless, pompous, and all for big business.
What do you care Omniz? You havent stated what you believe in or even if youre a boy or a girl. Just wanting to make posts, eh?
Omnizoa
03-29-17, 04:46 AM
YesTrump has all of Dubyas shortcomings but is even more clueless, pompous, and all for big business.
Because they're both doofus Republicans?
That seems remarkably shallow.
Obama advocated "CHANGE" and what did he do?
He continued Bush's war in the Middle East...
He failed to repeal and in fact RENEWED The Patriot Act...
He also failed to repeal No Child Left Behind (Congress replaced it with more Common Core)...
He drove up government spending, adding nearly 10 TRILLION dollars to the national deficit...
...despite insititing a deeply illiberal federal mandate to buy health insurance or else suffer a TAX PENALTY which grows exponentially every year thanks to The Affordable Care Act.
Obama can kiss my ****ing ass, **** Obama.
Trump is against virtually all of this AND has done more to deliver on his campaign promises in the first MONTH of being in office since and beyond the first Clinton.
And you guys treat him like another Bush while Obama's the retired hero. Why's the treehuggin' vegan hippie gotta tell you why this is ridiculous?
Omnizoa
03-29-17, 05:10 AM
In his FIRST day in office, with his FIRST executive order (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13765), Trump proved himself a better liberal than Obama.
...and people think he's an authoritarian.
Omnizoa
03-29-17, 09:18 AM
What do you care Omniz?
All I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.
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Cobpyth
03-29-17, 11:26 AM
I'm all for your Obama bashing, Omni, because it's all largely true. But...
Trump is against virtually all of this AND has done more to deliver on his campaign promises in the first MONTH of being in office since and beyond the first Clinton.
Really?
He was unable to uphold his immigration policies.
He was unable to repeal Obamacare.
Where's the wall that Mexico is going to pay for?
Where are his protectionist economic policies?
Where's the complete destruction of ISIS?
He's done nothing truly substantial in his first month as POTUS, except failing. He's a very ineffective president so far, in my opinion.
John McClane
03-29-17, 12:13 PM
I'm still waiting for Trump to do something "so fast" that "[my] head will spin".
Powdered Water
03-29-17, 12:33 PM
Keep waiting. Don't hold your breath tho. You'll die.
Youre on my Ignore User list Omnizoa, with Nostro & Sexy.
Ciao'
Omnizoa
03-30-17, 01:56 AM
He was unable to uphold his immigration policies.
You're handwaving A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS when you say that, including the wall you mention later.
If you're talking about the "Muslim Ban" as I suspect, it's no failure on Trump's part for trying. He had an idea, he got into office, and other people beat it down. As far as I'm aware, aspects of it still remain in play including the annual refugee limit. Like other orders he'd pushed, it wasn't thoroughly thought out, but if it's true that the basic premise of putting a halt on immigration from select countries was court declined then it's also true that this is gross judiciary overreach.
He was unable to repeal Obamacare.
Like your previous question you seem to be assuming the last word has been said on the matter.
They're redrafting the AHCA now and the worst part of Obamacare has already been crippled by his first executive order. Even if his replacement is "Obamacare minus the federal mandate" (which I'm sure it won't be), I'd say he succeeded.
Where's the wall that Mexico is going to pay for?
Of all his promises, that one was always going to be the furthest off, that's a huge national project. I think it's a fair bit unreasonable to expect anything much beyond early planning within his first year.
Where are his protectionist economic policies?
Good question, as I've already mentioned I'm not especially informed on this topic and I've heard little regarding it on the grapevine, so I simply can't say.
One thing I can say is that sufficiently restrictive environmental regulations can drive companies overseas to take advantage of looser policy. Hypothetically, the cost of satifying existing national environmental policies could do MORE damage than it prevents (policies which Trump is beginning to mitigate, which reduces the disincentive to outsource production).
The pros and cons of environmental regulation are a different issue of course.
Where's the complete destruction of ISIS?
What'd he say, the US could do that in a month? Yeah, hell no, that wasn't going to happen.
To say the least, I think you put an extraordinarily unrealistic amount of expectations on Trump. No way could half of that be accomplished in a month by even the most intelligent human we could muster. It's also difficult to excuse interpreting his promises of the moon to mean he's either failed to deliver on the spirit of his promises or he never intended what he said.
He's done nothing truly substantial in his first month as POTUS, except failing. He's a very ineffective president so far, in my opinion.
That's a neat way of excluding "insubstantial" things he's done. In either case I disagree, and can hardly think of an "effective" president you could contrast him with.
Omnizoa
03-30-17, 01:57 AM
Youre on my Ignore User list Omnizoa, with Nostro & Sexy.
Ciao'
Enjoy Wonderland.
Nostromo87
05-08-17, 03:40 PM
Where are the character assaults on Tongo for missing a liar?
I'll show them to you just as soon as you show me posts where he stubbornly refuses to admit Obama's done anything wrong, tried to answer criticisms by changing the subject over and over, or lashed out at me personally for asking questions.
Where are those? Oh, there are none? Then I guess this is just another blatant false equivalence.
Nostromo87
05-08-17, 04:15 PM
Show me the post where I "stubbornly refuse to admit Trump's done anything wrong," because that sounds a lot like you re-writing history to suit yourself.
Where have you? Show me an example. All I can recall, in over a year and a half, are maybe two vague allusions to "flaws" without an admission or concession on any one specific thing.
Nostromo87
05-08-17, 04:25 PM
I'll show them to you just as soon as you show me posts where he stubbornly refuses to admit Obama's done anything wrong, tried to answer criticisms by changing the subject over and over, or lashed out at me personally for asking questions.
So you can't find Tongo's posts where he does that?
And you can't find mine?
LOL
...
Where have you? Show me an example.
If you want to claim an equivalence to TONGO, show me posts where TONGO has consistently behaved like you have. If you can't, then it's just another false equivalence.
Nostromo87
05-08-17, 04:37 PM
Because you didn't assault Tongo for supporting a liar.
Because you didn't assault Tongo for supporting a liar.
Where has Yoda 'assaulted' anyone? Good grief.
Nostromo87
05-08-17, 04:39 PM
Where has Yoda 'assaulted' anyone? Good grief.
This entire year he has character assassinated Donald Trump and his voters.
Because you didn't assault Tongo for supporting a liar.
Are you even reading the posts at this point?
"...show me posts where TONGO has consistently behaved like you have. If you can't, then it's just another false equivalence."
Since all politicians lie, I assume pretty much everyone is willing to support a liar. But most of them don't try to pretend otherwise, or refuse to admit to anything, or change the subject and lash out personally when confronted with facts they don't like. That's the difference.
This entire year he has character assassinated Donald Trump and his voters.
Give me a break, Nostro. People all around the world are discussing Trump and what he's been getting up to. That's not assault - no one so far has punched him in the head, but you're saying in these two threads the forum owner is 'assaulting' you because he's debating. That's ridiculous.
Google tells me there are 16,500,000 forums on the net to discuss your president. Surely you can find at least one where the forum owner completely agrees with your every post. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And getting back to your complaint that the forum owner moved your shouts, it;s pretty obvious why. He also moved mine and cat's. You don't see us crying about it. It was the correct thing to do.
This entire year he has character assassinated Donald Trump and his voters.
What do you think it says about "Donald Trump and his voters" that when I merely quote him back to you, you think of it as character assassination?
Maybe you've just got really thin skin. I've argued with lots of people about Obama, Hillary, whatever. None of them have complained as much as you have about the mere act of being argued with. None of them have been so desperate to feel like a victim for the arduous task of--gasp--being asked questions about their stated positions.
And really, speech as assault? What's next, enumerating my anti-Trump microaggressions?
And really, speech as assault? What's next, enumerating my anti-Trump microaggressions?
When is speech assault? When it's aggravated, Yoda. Verbal guns and all.
Nostromo87
05-08-17, 05:16 PM
It's assault because when Obama lies, you don't harass his supporters for eternity about it.
You have a double standard.
I miss Barry and Michelle. Are they still on holidays? I see his speaking engagements will be $400,000US. Not bad for an hour or so.
What the hell are you talking about? I argued with them in hundreds of posts across YEARS. Please, enlighten us with your definition of "harassment" that includes what's happened to you, but somehow excludes that.
For a double standard to exist, two situations have to be comparable. If they're comparable, then you must have lots of examples of Obama supporters behaving just like you have (personal attacks, stonewalling on simple questions, etc) without me pointing it out. Let's see 'em. If you don't have any, then the situations aren't comparable, and there's no double standard, simple.
Oh, and just for good measure: why don't you explain the logical connection between double standards and truth. Let's say I did have a double standard: how would that change what Trump said, or preclude you from explaining why it wasn't a lie? Explain its relevance to that question, please.
cat_sidhe
05-09-17, 05:35 AM
And getting back to your complaint that the forum owner moved your shouts, it;s pretty obvious why. He also moved mine and cat's. You don't see us crying about it. It was the correct thing to do.
I have never seen so much whining about someone asking a few questions IN MY LIFE. Butthurt? More like buttdevastated. Jesus!
cat_sidhe
05-09-17, 05:42 AM
It's assault because when Obama lies, you don't harass his supporters for eternity about it.
You have a double standard.
And you exaggerate so much that you lie.
ash_is_the_gal
05-09-17, 09:38 AM
buttdevastatedoh, the mental picture that conjured up.
Exclusive: Read the Inauguration Day letter Obama left for Trump
Dear Mr. President -
Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.
This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don't know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.
First, we've both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It's up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard.
Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It's up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that's expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.
Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.
And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They'll get you through the inevitable rough patches.
Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.
Good luck and Godspeed,
BO
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html
Mesmerized
09-04-17, 01:33 AM
Godspeed and good riddance. BO was the worst president in history. Glad to see that piece of excrement gone.
Exclusive: Read the Inauguration Day letter Obama left for Trump
Dear Mr. President -
Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.
This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don't know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.
First, we've both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It's up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard.
Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It's up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that's expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.
Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.
And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They'll get you through the inevitable rough patches.
Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.
Good luck and Godspeed,
BO
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html
I am all cool with this letter - too bad so many Obama supporters cannot extend the respect of the office their Messiah can.
He said;
Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.
Good luck and Godspeed,
Try supporting what you embrace.
ash_is_the_gal
09-05-17, 10:34 AM
:rolleyes:
Probably because Presidents have a duty to the office itself that doesn't apply to regular citizens.
We can pretty safely assume George W. Bush left a similar letter for Obama, and I don't think a lot of his supporters felt it precluded from criticizing the new President, either. Nor should it.
matt72582
09-05-17, 04:52 PM
Godspeed and good riddance. BO was the worst president in history. Glad to see that piece of excrement gone.
It's spelled "W"
Godspeed and good riddance. BO was the worst president in history. Glad to see that piece of excrement gone.
Your political views aside, what did he ever do that was deserving of being called excrement?
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/outgunned-by-pakistan-f-16s-iaf-plans-to-re-arm-its-sukhois-with-israeli-missiles-2044172
Obama gave 500 advanced AIM 120 missiles to Pakistan for it's F 16 fighterjets . They outclassed Russian missiles in possession of India in recent military clashes . Now India has to replace it's Russian air to air missiles with Israeli missiles .
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