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Django
06-29-03, 08:03 PM
I'm 34. What about the rest of you? What's the age breakup in this forum? It's important to know each other's ages, so we know how to interact without treading on each other's toes.

Yoda
06-29-03, 08:09 PM
Age Breakdown as of 6/29/2003 (http://www.movieforums.net/ages.html)

Django
06-29-03, 08:13 PM
Thanks. That's useful. However, how old are each of you? I don't want to make the mistake of addressing a 30-year old as a teenager or vice versa.

Yoda
06-29-03, 08:16 PM
Most of the regulars have their birthdays in their profiles. You really do despise legwork, don't you? Regardless, you should address people based on the way they handle themselves above all else.

I suspect (scratch that: I'm sure of it) that this is yet another attempt to discredit the opposition (from yet another angle). It won't work, though...your lack of popularity here extends to all ages, creeds and nationalities.

Oh, and a typo has been fixed above. The breakdown is as of TODAY, not one year ago.

Django
06-29-03, 08:21 PM
Sorry, bud, but, firstly, your age is in no way indicated in your profile. It only lists your date of birth, not the year.

Regarding your "treat people as they conduct themselves" deal, sorry, but it isn't so simple. If you are a teenager who wants to be treated as an adult, it's just great. Life is easier for you. As an adult, I have a whole lot of complications to worry about, not to mention legal complications. There are issues that go beyond the obvious. This is in no way an attempt to discredit anyone. The fact is, I need to know your age to be able to relate with you properly. I have been honest and disclosed my own age. All I ask from others is the same courtesy.

Yoda
06-29-03, 08:25 PM
I do not believe your assertion that this is not an attempt to discredit anyone, but regardless, I'm 18. Most of the other users have their year of birth in their profiles.

Regarding your "treat people as they conduct themselves" deal, sorry, but it isn't so simple. If you are a teenager who wants to be treated as an adult, it's just great. Life is easier for you. As an adult, I have a whole lot of complications to worry about, not to mention legal complications. There are issues that go beyond the obvious.
This seems like a lot of fluff to me. There are surely some situations in which knowing that what you're reading is coming from someone very young might be highly relevant, but in the bulk of discussions on this forum, knowing how the person handles themselves, and simply reading their posts, speaks more to their character than their age ever could.

Django
06-29-03, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Yoda
I do not believe your assertion that this is not an attempt to discredit anyone, but regardless, I'm 18. Most of the other users have their year of birth in their profiles.
Well, I have to hand it to you. You are very mature for an 18-year-old. I never would have suspected. If I had been aware of your age all along, I probably wouldn't have said about 75% of the things I have to you. (Again, that is a rough estimation, not based on any sort of scientific study)

Originally posted by Yoda

This seems like a lot of fluff to me. There are surely some situations in which knowing that what you're reading is coming from someone very young might be highly relevant, but in the bulk of discussions on this forum, knowing how the person handles themselves, and simply reading their posts, speaks more to their character than their age ever could.
A lot depends on the context. If you were a peer, I could get away with talking with you in a more familiar manner. As a 30-something adult talking to a teenager, I have to measure my words a little carefully, because I don't want to say something that might be misinterpreted or taken awry. As it is, I have said enough on this forum to have seriously marred my image among the youth crowd that seems to constitute the forum in the main. I will have to watch my words in the future. Anyway, I have to give you the credit for doing an excellent job managing this forum and for your intelligence, depth of knowledge and level of maturity. Says a lot. Keep up the good work.

r3port3r66
06-29-03, 09:21 PM
Django, it's nice to hear you finally compliment Yoda. I think he deserves at least that much from you.

But...I think I'm gonna bite at what I think you're trying to provoke. There is a constant in your recent posts about how, now that you know some members are minors, you will address them differently. Now, saying it once would have been enough, but I've noticed that you keep making members' ages here an issue as to how to address them in the future.

Question: Are you telling us that you have been having long and intellegent conversations for months now with men and women you didn't know were "minors"? How does one debate with someone else for long periods of time, and get intellegent responses, then suddenly wonder if the person is not a peer. To me, just the fact that you carried on such long debates means that age was not a problem. So why is it now?

Another thing, and I only bring this up because you seem to have this condesending attitude toward minors, why did you sign up under different usernames, writing in language (Vlad, etc.) that was so childlike(less mature than say an 18 year old)? I'm 35, and as your peer, that seemed quite infantile. Again why?

Biting at your bait,
reporter.

Django
06-30-03, 12:52 AM
Well, reporter, when it comes to discussing the issues, strictly, age is not a relevant factor. When it comes to more personal issues such as behavior or carrying on a feud, etc., age is everything. The last thing I want to do is get caught up in a situation which would be extremely embarassing for me, that is, get into a verbal fight with someone almost half my age. It's not that I don't respect Yoda's or anyone else's opinion--when it comes to discussing the issues, as I said above, age is not an issue. But when my "behavior" is called into question and I am asked to answer to my words in that context, age is everything--I have to know where the criticism is coming from and how to go about wording my response. It has nothing to do with patronizing anyone. Again, I repeat, if we stick strictly to the issues, age is not a factor. At least, that is the ideal I aim for.

MyRobotSuit
06-30-03, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Django
The last thing I want to do is get caught up in a situation which would be extremely embarassing for me, that is, get into a verbal fight with someone almost half my age. It's not that I don't respect Yoda's or anyone else's opinion--when it comes to discussing the issues, as I said above, age is not an issue.

If age is not an issue then why would it be embarrassing for you to argue with someone almost half your age?

Steve
06-30-03, 01:46 AM
I turned 18 this past May.

I think you want to know our ages for ammunition, so if we say something you don't like, you can say 'well you're just a kid & you don't know what I do because I'm older' or some such bull****.

You didn't answer reporter's questions.

Kong
06-30-03, 01:50 AM
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Django
06-30-03, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by MinionTV

If age is not an issue then why would it be embarrassing for you to argue with someone almost half your age?
Well, like I said, when you stick to the issues, age is not an issue. When you argue about personal matters, like conduct, age is everything

Originally posted by Steve
I turned 18 this past May.

I think you want to know our ages for ammunition, so if we say something you don't like, you can say 'well you're just a kid & you don't know what I do because I'm older' or some such bull****.

You didn't answer reporter's questions.
Cuts both ways, dude! You have my age too! Anyway, I'm not the kind of guy who patronizes people on account of their age. However, if someone makes, e.g., an insulting remark or utters a profanity, then I need to know where it is coming from in order to respond to that appropriately. Anything less would be dishonest.

Caitlyn
06-30-03, 02:00 AM
Personally I think Django’s new found fascination with age stems from a little more then just wanting extra ammo to use against anyone on MoFo… What did you do Django?

Sexy Celebrity
06-30-03, 02:05 AM
Who's the 80 year old MoFo?

I'm 19. I'll be 20 this November.

MyRobotSuit
06-30-03, 02:05 AM
:suspicious:

r3port3r66
06-30-03, 02:25 AM
I can almost see where you're coming from in regards to my first question, but I don't think you answered my second. But that's OK if you don't want to answer it.

Let me make sure I understand this:

If someone calls you something outside your name, you will first consider their age, then respond? But if someone, during the course of a debate challenges you within the context of the discussion, you will not consider their age? Why not?

Django
06-30-03, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Caitlyn
Personally I think Django’s new found fascination with age stems from a little more then just wanting extra ammo to use against anyone on MoFo… What did you do Django?
Nothing . . . so far. I just want to avoid a potentially embarassing situation for myself in the future.

Django
06-30-03, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by r3port3r66
I can almost see where you're coming from in regards to my first question, but I don't think you answered my second. But that's OK if you don't want to answer it.

Let me make sure I understand this:

If someone calls you something outside your name, you will first consider their age, then respond? But if someone, during the course of a debate challenges you within the context of the discussion, you will not consider their age? Why not?
Regarding your second question, no comment.
Regarding the issue you raised above, the reason I will not consider their age in the second case is that if someone raises a point or issue related to the subject under discussion, then I will address the point or issue regardless of its source, because if the issue has any merit, it deserves a response regardless of the source. My response will be directed to the issue rather than the person raising it.

Hondo333
06-30-03, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Sexy Celebrity
Who's the 80 year old MoFo?


????

Django
06-30-03, 04:35 AM
!!!!

sphericthor
06-30-03, 08:12 AM
I'm 20, and I will be 21 on 24th December

Caitlyn
06-30-03, 10:57 AM
Nothing . . . so far. I just want to avoid a potentially embarassing situation for myself in the future.


Let me rephrase that question then... What are you planning on doing?

NexijunRodent
06-30-03, 11:07 PM
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Beale the Rippe
06-30-03, 11:24 PM
Didn't we already play this game?

Django
06-30-03, 11:27 PM
Let me rephrase that question then... What are you planning on doing?
Who me? Nothing!

Yoda
06-30-03, 11:34 PM
Who me? Nothing!
Aside from attempting to delete a number of your past threads at about 3 AM last night, you mean? Yeah, nothing...

Django
06-30-03, 11:39 PM
Aside from attempting to delete a number of your past threads at about 3 AM last night, you mean? Yeah, nothing...
Man, are you paranoid! Why do I have to convince you of anything? The fact is, I have the right to delete old threads started by me if I so desire. You have no right to stop me from doing so. It seems you have revoked my privelege for deleting posts and threads. I demand that privelege to be reinstated immediately. If you don't, that will only provide more evidence of your biased mismanagement of the forum, wherein you allow certain members to delete their threads and not others.

Yoda
06-30-03, 11:59 PM
Man, are you paranoid! Why do I have to convince you of anything? The fact is, I have the right to delete old threads started by me if I so desire. You have no right to stop me from doing so. It seems you have revoked my privelege for deleting posts and threads. I demand that privelege to be reinstated immediately. If you don't, that will only provide more evidence of your biased mismanagement of the forum, wherein you allow certain members to delete their threads and not others.
I DO have a right to stop you from doing so. This board is private property, and as such you are not allowed to dictate which actions I may or may not take on it. Deal with it.

As for the rest -- believe what you want, but I did not, and do not, approve of blibblobblib's decision...but at least he had the guts to stand by and attempt to justify it. For the time being I've suspended every non-management user's ability to delete their own threads. If you want a thread deleted, ask one of the moderators and they'll consider your request.

LordSlaytan
07-01-03, 12:04 AM
I usually skip over your's and Django's endless arguments, but now I have to read all that stuff just to find out what blibblobblib did!

Django
07-01-03, 12:06 AM
I DO have a right to stop you from doing so. This board is private property, and as such you are not allowed to dictate which actions I may or may not take on it. Deal with it.

As for the rest -- believe what you want, but I did not, and do not, approve of blibblobblib's decision...but at least he had the guts to stand by and attempt to justify it. For the time being I've suspended every non-management user's ability to delete their own threads. If you want a thread deleted, ask one of the moderators and they'll consider your request.
The board may be private property, but the threads we create are our copyrighted property. My contribution to your board does not imply I have signed over the copyright to that contribution over to you. As such, if I wish to erase my contributions to your board, then I have the right to do so.

Yoda
07-01-03, 12:11 AM
The board may be private property, but the threads we create are our copyrighted property. My contribution to your board does not imply I have signed over the copyright to that contribution over to you. As such, if I wish to erase my contributions to your board, then I have the right to do so.
Incorrect. While you retain the right to publish them elsewhere, and I am not allowed to claim them as my own, you chose to willingly post them here fully aware that I have the right to organize and display them however I like so long as I do not claim faux ownership. The fact that you wrote them does not mean you have the right to dictate my actions as administrator to me.

Caitlyn
07-01-03, 03:04 AM
Man, are you paranoid! Why do I have to convince you of anything? The fact is, I have the right to delete old threads started by me if I so desire. You have no right to stop me from doing so. It seems you have revoked my privelege for deleting posts and threads. I demand that privelege to be reinstated immediately. If you don't, that will only provide more evidence of your biased mismanagement of the forum, wherein you allow certain members to delete their threads and not others.


Apparently you’re the paranoid one if you were trying to erase your tracks…

And if you’re so unhappy with the management of this forum… Legally you have one right pertaining to that issue… the right to leave. You posted here of your own free will… you have remained here of your own free will… and you have the right to leave of your own free will. What you don’t seem to understand is that you do not have the right to harass the management or demand anything from the management that they are not willing to freely give. You did agree to the rules of this forum when you signed up… and as far as I’m concerned, Yoda has been extremely patient with you.

LordSlaytan
07-01-03, 03:14 AM
Apparently you’re the paranoid one if you were trying to erase your tracks…

And if you’re so unhappy with the management of this forum… Legally you have one right pertaining to that issue… the right to leave. You posted here of your own free will… you have remained here of your own free will… and you have the right to leave of your own free will. What you don’t seem to understand is that you do not have the right to harass the management or demand anything from the management that they are not willing to freely give. You did agree to the rules of this forum when you signed up… and as far as I’m concerned, Yoda has been extremely patient with you.


Damn girl.

Steve
07-01-03, 05:21 AM
Aside from attempting to delete a number of your past threads at about 3 AM last night, you mean? Yeah, nothing...

Whoa...

It sounds to me like Django would rather act as if something never happened rather than admit he was proven wrong...Again, very Nixon-like. Why don't you explain yourself Django?

Also, you still haven't answered reporter's questions (the best of the bunch) & you've refused to give straight answers to anyone else's. I still don't know why age is relevant if you're attempting to discuss issues.

And since Chris has consistently disproven your exaggerations, I'd advise you to wade carefully if you plan on debating copyrights and ownership. If the past is any indication, you'll come off looking like a fool.

sphericthor
07-01-03, 10:19 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Django's is in his/her mid-30s, and it seems to me that s/he is acting very childish towards the other members of the forum.

If you are reading this Django, I'm not trying to offend you by what I have written, but if you can provide an honest opinion about why you wanted to erase your posts/threads maybe Yoda will take it into consideration, but until you do this I will have to agree with the rest of the members in saying that you have the right to leave the forum at any time you like and that you like the rest of us have agreed to the rules.

Caitlyn
07-01-03, 06:05 PM
Yoda, was the “Fire the Bastard” thread one of the ones Django was attempting to delete?

Sir Toose
07-01-03, 07:24 PM
Man, are you paranoid! Why do I have to convince you of anything? The fact is, I have the right to delete old threads started by me if I so desire. You have no right to stop me from doing so. It seems you have revoked my privelege for deleting posts and threads. I demand that privelege to be reinstated immediately. If you don't, that will only provide more evidence of your biased mismanagement of the forum, wherein you allow certain members to delete their threads and not others.


Pardon my blunt verbage here, but are you off your f*cking rocker?

No wonder you argue toward the left. I've never been exposed to anyone who has the entitlement syndrome as seriously as you do.

I'm a nice guy, I really am. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt but you, my friend, have stepped off the deep end.

I hope the guys in white coats find you soon.

Django
07-01-03, 11:01 PM
Incorrect. While you retain the right to publish them elsewhere, and I am not allowed to claim them as my own, you chose to willingly post them here fully aware that I have the right to organize and display them however I like so long as I do not claim faux ownership. The fact that you wrote them does not mean you have the right to dictate my actions as administrator to me.
Okay, firstly, you still haven't answered my question--you claimed that blibblobblib gave you a "good reason" for deleting his thread on Harry Potter along with all the posts I had made on the subject. What was the reason he gave you? Secondly, if you allow blibblobblib to delete his threads, I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to delete my threads. No one is trying to dictate your actions at administrator to you, but I do have the right to question your actions as administrator, particularly when they strike me as being biased and unjust. Fact is, your "administration" in this forum has resulted in:

My threads being deleted on flimsy grounds

My posts being edited behind my back and replaced with offensive garbage targeted against me

A blatant bias against me, in which you have completely neglected to administer or check voices of profanity directed against me, joining in, instead, with these voices

A relentless targetting of me for hostile and baseless argumentative harassment

Double standards with regard to the deletion of past threads.
Now, frankly, Yoda, if you were a full-grown adult, these actions would be perceived as very, very serious. The fact that you are a teenager means you can get away with it, because it is excusable under those circumstances. I don't deny that you are doing a great job in the technical management of the forum, but I have some serious issues concerning your management of the content of the forum. I still demand the right to delete past threads started by me. If I leave the forum, then I sure as heck do not intend to leave all my material behind. I can promise you this much--if you do allow me to delete all my threads and posts, I will be out of here for good and you can ban my login ID if you so choose.

Yoda
07-01-03, 11:10 PM
Okay, firstly, you still haven't answered my question--you claimed that blibblobblib gave you a "good reason" for deleting his thread on Harry Potter along with all the posts I had made on the subject. What was the reason he gave you?He didn't give ME any reason, he gave it publicly when he re-created the thread.Secondly, if you allow blibblobblib to delete his threads, I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to delete my threads."I did not, and do not, approve of blibblobblib's decision...but at least he had the guts to stand by and attempt to justify it. For the time being I've suspended every non-management user's ability to delete their own threads."No one is trying to dictate your actions at administrator to you"I have the right to delete old threads started by me if I so desire. You have no right to stop me from doing so."If I leave the forum, then I sure as heck do not intend to leave all my material behind. I can promise you this much--if you do allow me to delete all my threads and posts, I will be out of here for good and you can ban my login ID if you so choose.Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't demolish any trace of your existence, especially considering the fact that it'd be impossible to do so without either a) destroying many other people's posts, too, or b) rendering a lot of discussions seemingly meaningless to anyone new who comes along and reads them.

I can only assume that you're somehow ashamed of what you've said, but you chose to say it and you ought to accept that. If you want to "take back" what you said, I suggest you do so by apologizing and retracting your statements, rather than attempting to delete them.

Oh, and in regards to your laundry list of gripes: I've deal with each of them in turn MANY times...there are still a few unanswered posts in the "irrational gripes" thread that you, convienently, never got around to replying to. I suggest you stop complaining about these issues until you can produce adequate replies to my various, ignored posts on the matter.

Sexy Celebrity
07-01-03, 11:18 PM
Personally, I see nothing wrong with deleting your own THREADS, if that's what you wanna do. And if you wanna delete your posts, FINE! Just remember that it once existed and all of your old quotes would still be around.

Django, after all this abuse you feel, why do you stick around? Why not be a mature man and just say "F**K IT" to MoFo and all of us? There's more to life, after all.

Of course, you promised before that you would leave, but you didn't. You lied to us, Django. You liiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeedddddddddd.

Django
07-01-03, 11:48 PM
He didn't give ME any reason, he gave it publicly when he re-created the thread.
Well, I'd say that it's all the more an indication of double standards in your management of the forum.

"I did not, and do not, approve of blibblobblib's decision...but at least he had the guts to stand by and attempt to justify it. For the time being I've suspended every non-management user's ability to delete their own threads."
Again, evidence of bias and double-standards.

"I have the right to delete old threads started by me if I so desire. You have no right to stop me from doing so."
Merely a statement of my rights, which you have been hard at work denying me any way you can. Again, I have the right to question your administration of the forum if I feel it has been biased, unfair and immoral, and I have provided more than enough evidence for that.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't demolish any trace of your existence, especially considering the fact that it'd be impossible to do so without either a) destroying many other people's posts, too, or b) rendering a lot of discussions seemingly meaningless to anyone new who comes along and reads them.
Well, all I want to do is delete a few pointless threads that are cluttering up the forum. I don't plan on erasing my presence in here completely, nor do I plan on erasing my posts from other people's threads, or even erasing all my threads. There are some threads that I don't want to leave behind me when I quit from here for good, and I want to erase those threads.

I can only assume that you're somehow ashamed of what you've said, but you chose to say it and you ought to accept that. If you want to "take back" what you said, I suggest you do so by apologizing and retracting your statements, rather than attempting to delete them.
Not ashamed of anything, nor do I have any desire to retract anything.

Oh, and in regards to your laundry list of gripes: I've deal with each of them in turn MANY times...there are still a few unanswered posts in the "irrational gripes" thread that you, convienently, never got around to replying to. I suggest you stop complaining about these issues until you can produce adequate replies to my various, ignored posts on the matter.
Sorry, but you haven't provided anything close to an adequate response to any of the complaints I have voiced against you. That's the main reason I plan on quitting MoFo--your biased, immature administration of an otherwise great forum.

Django
07-01-03, 11:50 PM
Personally, I see nothing wrong with deleting your own THREADS, if that's what you wanna do. And if you wanna delete your posts, FINE! Just remember that it once existed and all of your old quotes would still be around.
Thanks for agreeing with my point of view, for once.

Django, after all this abuse you feel, why do you stick around? Why not be a mature man and just say "F**K IT" to MoFo and all of us? There's more to life, after all.
Believe me, I'm on my way out of here for good!

Of course, you promised before that you would leave, but you didn't. You lied to us, Django. You liiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeedddddddddd.
Hardly. I said I was going to quit temporarily, and I did.

NexijunRodent
07-01-03, 11:53 PM
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Yoda
07-02-03, 12:00 AM
Well, I'd say that it's all the more an indication of double standards in your management of the forum.
Again, evidence of bias and double-standards.
You're not listening. He deleted his thread when I wasn't around, and I don't approve of the action, but seeing as how I haven't yet invented a flux capacitor, there's nothing I can do short of stopping everyone from doing so in the future.


Merely a statement of my rights, which you have been hard at work denying me any way you can. Again, I have the right to question your administration of the forum if I feel it has been biased, unfair and immoral, and I have provided more than enough evidence for that.
Question away (oh, wait, damn...I'm supposed to be "silencing" you...)...but the fact is you've done more than that. You've made demands, and tried to give orders. I'm sorry to say that won't work.


Well, all I want to do is delete a few pointless threads that are cluttering up the forum. I don't plan on erasing my presence in here completely, nor do I plan on erasing my posts from other people's threads, or even erasing all my threads. There are some threads that I don't want to leave behind me when I quit from here for good, and I want to erase those threads.
Assuming you actually mean this (which you don't), if they truly are "pointless" threads, why do you particularly care if they remain up?


Sorry, but you haven't provided anything close to an adequate response to any of the complaints I have voiced against you. That's the main reason I plan on quitting MoFo--your biased, immature administration of an otherwise great forum.
...and that's your entire argument, right there. I come back with justifications and replies to every single gripe you produce, and you offhandedly dismiss them. You're all about claims...they're all you've got. You're like the Monty Python Argument Clinic incarnate.

"Look this isn't an argument."
"Yes it is."
"No it isn't, it's just contradiction."
"No it isn't."

Sexy Celebrity
07-02-03, 12:02 AM
Believe me, I'm on my way out of here for good!

Well, what are you waiting for? A piece of cake?

Django
07-02-03, 12:08 AM
I quit!

Surrounded by immature ********, I see no reason to remain!

Goodbye!

Yoda, feel free to cancel my login id, ban my ip address, whatever! I'm out of here!

Caitlyn
07-02-03, 12:45 AM
I quit!

Surrounded by immature ********, I see no reason to remain!

Goodbye!

Yoda, feel free to cancel my login id, ban my ip address, whatever! I'm out of here!



Oh... that was very mature... :laugh:

shooot.em.down.
07-02-03, 07:14 AM
im really a whole lot younger than most of you here. i'd say probably the youngest... :blush:

Monkeypunch
07-02-03, 03:34 PM
I quit!

Surrounded by immature ********, I see no reason to remain!

Goodbye!

Yoda, feel free to cancel my login id, ban my ip address, whatever! I'm out of here!

Oh, how we'd all love to believe this...... :D

Saruman
07-06-03, 02:52 PM
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Herod
07-06-03, 05:07 PM
Uday, I have to say that I was, for the most part, with you on this one from the beginning. Asking you to justify your want to know people's ages seemed a tad ridiculous, and throughout this thread countless people have harassed you unnecessarily.
But seriously, after all this talk about how age doesn't matter, can't you see not only how condescending, but how hypocritical it is to write:
Now, frankly, Yoda, if you were a full-grown adult, these actions would be perceived as very, very serious. The fact that you are a teenager means you can get away with it, because it is excusable under those circumstances.
I'm trying lately to take your sides on some of this issues because I believe that in some part you've recieved some unfasir treatment here; but it's patronizing to act as if age is a factor on these internet message boards. The whole point is that they are raceless and ageless, and that people are being judged more by the quality of their character than the amount of time they've had to develop said character.


Of course, this is all assuming he's still around...

Golgot
07-06-03, 05:56 PM
Of course, this is all assuming he's still around...

Yeah, reckon he's long gone. I thought old Djang had some things to say too, but unfortunately he had degenerated into a kind of strange indefensible state by this point it seems. Like how this thread seems to have been set up to remove his embarassment at having been out-thought and argued by people far younger than him (not the ones who just called him a crazy liberal or whatever tho) i.e. the things he eventually came out with like the quote above. He put up some interesting points for a while, but then everything seemed to collapse into a big morass of nonsense on all sides. He was annoying tho when he dodged points etc.

Steve
07-07-03, 01:25 PM
I'm trying lately to take your sides on some of this issues because I believe that in some part you've recieved some unfasir treatment here...

You've done a wonderful job, you know. How brave of you to speak out after he's left.

:rolleyes:

Gracie
07-07-03, 06:59 PM
This seems like a lot of fluff to me. There are surely some situations in which knowing that what you're reading is coming from someone very young might be highly relevant, but in the bulk of discussions on this forum, knowing how the person handles themselves, and simply reading their posts, speaks more to their character than their age ever could.

I completely agree, O brother of mine. My thoughts exactly. Django, I recently turned 12. Hopefully you won't use the age card and do basically what Steve said: "Dismiss our arguments by claiming we are too young and/or 'inexperienced'". I hope, for your sake, you don't sink to such immaturity. I think it was C.S. Lewis who said something along the lines of: "Youth may hide Wisdom."

Herod
07-07-03, 07:08 PM
You've done a wonderful job, you know. How brave of you to speak out after he's left.
Maybe you ought to check the wording of that sentence. That is to say, I've been trying to see things more his way during the past short while. And it's not as if this is the first time he's claimed to be leaving, my assumption is and was that he's still around.

Jerk.

Taxi Driver
07-07-03, 10:44 PM
I am 14.

Steve
07-08-03, 03:45 AM
Jerk.

:cool:

Herod
07-08-03, 04:01 AM
:rotfl:

jamesglewisf
07-13-03, 06:35 PM
37.

On my forum, no one has ever had the ability to delete threads or posts. They can delete the text in a post, because I let them edit forever, but they can't delete threads.

I'm always surprised by the "rights" people think they have on forums. The only real right you have is to plunk down your money for vbulletin and a webserver to start your own forum and make up your own rules.

jrs
07-14-03, 05:56 PM
30

Nikki
07-15-03, 03:40 AM
21..........22 in January 2004....

Piddzilla
07-15-03, 05:29 AM
21..........22 in January 2004....

I'll be 35 in May 2010.

Rustygirl
02-25-04, 08:10 PM
17

jrs
02-25-04, 09:16 PM
31 yrs. old in 16 weeks. :D

kaisersoze
02-26-04, 12:34 PM
20, damn I'm one of the younger people.

Sedai
02-26-04, 03:56 PM
32

blibblobblib
02-27-04, 01:46 PM
21 and growing younger....

Revenant
02-27-04, 04:11 PM
I'm 23. In June I'm going to be 24 :eek: I was only 16 last month ;)

Philmster
02-27-04, 04:24 PM
I was 19 in January..

Richard Hell
03-01-04, 12:12 AM
im 14

T-850
03-01-04, 06:59 PM
I'll be 30 this May.

thoughtprovoker
03-07-04, 09:38 PM
On the subject of age, I got to thinking, who is the oldest human being alive?

Could it be this guy?

http://www.davies.lu/Photos/Asia/Old-man.jpg

Or, maybe, this guy?

http://www.tci-travel.com/Web%20images/94%20YEAR%20OLD%20MAN%20IN%20LIJIANG.jpg

But, then it occurred to me...

Jesus Christ was about 33 years old when he was crucified, in the year 32 A.D. or thereabouts... But the Bible says that 3 days later, he was resurrected from the grave, and, about 30 days after that, he ascended bodily into heaven. So... then it must follow that Jesus is obviously the oldest human being alive, being some 2000 years old and counting...

Just a thought...