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MonnoM
07-14-16, 07:44 PM
This was inspired by False Writer's surreal photo thread. Whether you believe in it or not, this is the place to post anything from articles, pictures and the like that have piqued your curiosity or just creeped you the hell out. Anything from Cryptozoology to the generally paranormal or unexplained. Don't be shy now.

I'll start this off with the Ararat Anomaly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ararat_anomaly) (which apparently has been dubbed Noah's Ark) and the Smiley Face murder theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_face_murder_theory). The Smiley Face murder theory is rather eccentric but I'll admit it's an intriguing one.

Camo
07-14-16, 09:19 PM
Personally i don't believe the smiley face murder one, but it is intriguing. There's a similar theory in Manchester about someone pushing people in front of trains and them being ruled as suicides. Don't believe it either but again it is interesting.

I love these two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamam_Shud_case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_Masks_Case

Friendly Mushroom!
07-14-16, 10:37 PM
https://youtu.be/T2TqAHkBv2A

I'm probably going to be busy with this Thread.. I used to be obsessed with this kind of stuff 1-2 years ago. I'll hunt down some of the old articles and YouTube videos I found to put in this place.

Citizen Rules
07-15-16, 03:48 PM
I'm skeptical of many of the so called paranormal photographic evidences that turn up. But consider this, if you believe in an afterlife where human spirits go, then why wouldn't it be possible some of those spirits are stuck on Earth in a sort of purgatory or in transition. I mean if there's spirits in heaven, there could be spirits on Earth.

Camo
07-31-16, 07:28 PM
That is hilarious. Obviously it is BS, i just love the idea of waking up and finding out the internet think you are being held hostage, :laugh:.

She spoke to The Sun and the police released a statement saying they visited her home and spoke to her and her mum - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1511906/youtube-star-marina-joyce-speaks-out-after-fans-claimed-she-was-kidnapped-by-isis/

banality
07-31-16, 07:38 PM
She spoke to The Sun and the police released a statement saying they visited her home and spoke to her and her mum - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1511906/youtube-star-marina-joyce-speaks-out-after-fans-claimed-she-was-kidnapped-by-isis/

Exactly what an ISIS hostage would say

Camo
07-31-16, 08:16 PM
Possibly. She does act weird in some of the videos. Did you watch any of her earlier videos to see if she usually acts that way?

Camo
07-31-16, 08:28 PM
Yeah, i don't really think it is that interesting and it is most likely nothing. Just found it pretty funny.

ashdoc
08-04-16, 04:01 PM
humans do so much bad things to each other , and after seeing those things i can't find myself believing any paranormal / ghost stuff---assuming all ghosts are supposed to be evil entities . we have enough villains among humans .

Captain Steel
08-04-16, 04:11 PM
humans do so much bad things to each other , and after seeing those things i can't find myself believing any paranormal / ghost stuff---assuming all ghosts are supposed to be evil entities . we have enough villains among humans .

I've written extensively about the "theories" of ghosts. I always ask: at what stage of human evolution do ghosts begin? Did Homo-erectus turn into ghosts or did humans only acquire souls after they became Homo-sapiens? Do animals make ghosts? How about insects?

If ghosts are the result of unfulfilled lives, murders, a quest for justice or revenge, or a traumatic death, then there would be more ghosts on Earth now than there are people and they'd be literally everywhere that human beings have ever been.

Why can ghosts engage in all kinds of kinetic activity (up to and including rape), but none of them can pick up a phone to call you, write you a letter or type out an e-mail or text so they can give any information about the afterlife?

ashdoc
08-04-16, 04:16 PM
at what stage of human evolution do ghosts begin?

god and ghosts both exist only in the human mind , and they begin at the point humans began to have a hyperimaginative mind .

CiCi
08-04-16, 04:24 PM
I love things like this! It's disheartening to realise that the vast majority of it is BS, but even so, I'm dying to go to a psychic and to use a ouija board sometime!

That smiley face serial killing theory doesn't seem to fully add up to me, either. But it is curious how most of the deceased fit the same profile.

Captain Steel
08-04-16, 04:26 PM
god and ghosts both exist only in the human mind , and they begin at the point humans began to have a hyperimaginative mind .

This begs the question - do people who believe in ghosts also believe in evolution?

Another [possible] truth: all these "rules" we've come to know about ghosts were originally provided to us by psychic mediums, the majority of which have been exposed as charlatans who seek to profit off the grief of others.

Camo
08-04-16, 04:41 PM
I'm dying to go to a psychic

Please don't give money to those frauds.

and to use a ouija board sometime!

Go for it! Make sure you get yourself really freaked out so you can fully enjoy the Ideomotor Effect ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon

ashdoc
08-04-16, 04:59 PM
This begs the question - do people who believe in ghosts also believe in evolution?



most of those who believe in ghosts are illiterate---if you are talking of third world countries like india . more people in rural areas believe in ghosts than in urban areas . people living in densely populated neighbourhoods which are well electrified and lighted believe in ghosts less than people living in sparsely populated areas with less lighting and electricity and more darkness .

MonnoM
03-16-17, 07:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGN959Wt5SY

Camo
03-16-17, 07:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGN959Wt5SY

Haven't watched the video yet but i've watched the one pictured before you press play. If it's the one where the guy randomly runs out the airport then he is caught outside it by cctv still running til he gets out of sight, and he's never been seen again. Creepy as hell :eek:

Little Devil
03-16-17, 07:56 PM
Saw a UFO once.

Does that count?

Camo
03-16-17, 08:02 PM
Watched it. I'd already hear of 2, 3 and 4. All weird ones. #5 does sound like it could be foul play but i wouldn't be shocked if it actually was suicide. I don't know what her mental state was like, she could have bought stuff then just snapped and decided to do it at a moments notice i dunno. #1 is weird, sounds like murder-suicide.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 09:39 PM
Saw a UFO once.

Does that count?
Really? Details!

Little Devil
03-16-17, 09:59 PM
Really? Details!
I was spending time where my father was born. A small village up north.

Late in the day [around 7:30 pm - still plenty of day light for Summer] we were heading out to have some rustic meal in a nearby restaurant. I stayed outside with my father finishing up our cigarettes and talking some minor things when across the street [and not so high in the sky] we saw this rectangular shaped flying object crossing from behind the hill to the horizon.

It was all black with bright red stretched out rectangular lights on the center of the objects' body that moved forward with the object. Very big. Completely silent. If we weren't looking that direction we'd never know.
Other people saw it too and some gathered to talk about it.

The curious thing about it was the way it floated/moved/. You know those Air Hokey table games?

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/CpUAAOxy63FSyIWK/$_3.JPG?set_id=2


The object "slid" through the air like the disk in those table games do. Very softly.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:05 PM
WOW. I'm jealous. I want to see a UFO just so I can have an "I saw a UFO" story.

Was the experience scary? What did you feel? Anything strange happen afterwards? Weird dreams?

MonnoM
03-16-17, 10:13 PM
Did it look like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:15 PM
WOW. I'm jealous. I want to see a UFO just so I can have an "I saw a UFO" story.

Was the experience scary? What did you feel? Anything strange happen afterwards? Weird dreams?

It wasn't scary at all. Just odd.

Odd in the sense that you are accustomed to see and hear planes and helicopters flying above you, so there are things you are already expecting to come along with them [such as noise and reverberation when they approach and leave]. The oddity is that there were none of those things attached to it. It was simply there, moved and was gone. It took [I imagine] roughly 10 or 12 seconds to go the distance [which is not small].

No dreams or anything. Just puzzlement really.

Mind you, this was back in 2004.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:18 PM
Did it look like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

No. It was perfectly rectangular, no wings, no tip. Flat above and flat below. Imagine a long black rectangle with 4 or 5 red thinner rectangular lights moving from left to right right in the middle of the shape.

Wait, I'll see if I can post a sketch

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:21 PM
It sounds like a flying black block -- the kind from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I noted that's your favorite movie. When did that become your favorite movie? Before or after the UFO? Just curious if seeing this changed your life.

cat_sidhe
03-16-17, 10:21 PM
I'm dying to go to a psychic

A bit extreme... :lol:

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:25 PM
MonnoM Sexy Celebrity

Here ya go.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/1eph06.jpg

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:26 PM
I did an April Fool's Day joke thread last year here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=45163) claiming that Carrie Fisher died.

R.I.P. Carrie Fisher (1956-2016), the thread was called. Created April 1st, 2016.

She ended up dying for real on December 27th, 2016.

Paranormal City. Most people know of this (and are sick to death of it), but, some of you IMDB people might have missed it.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:26 PM
It sounds like a flying black block -- the kind from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I noted that's your favorite movie. When did that become your favorite movie? Before or after the UFO? Just curious if seeing this changed your life.
yeah I thought that too, except for the red lights. I watched it from very young. 4 or 5 yo.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 10:30 PM
I just realized you wrote rectangle and not triangle. Let me see if I can find some government aircraft that looks like that. It's usually a government aircraft.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:32 PM
I just realized you wrote rectangle and not triangle. Let me see if I can find some government aircraft that looks like that. It's usually a government aircraft.

I must say I'm even kind of suspicious of this, too, simply because Devil said it took 10-12 seconds to fly away. I dunno - if aliens from a far away planet paid a visit, why can't their spaceships fly faster?

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:36 PM
I just realized you wrote rectangle and not triangle. Let me see if I can find some government aircraft that looks like that. It's usually a government aircraft.
This one is rectangular [so say the witnesses] but the lights are orange, and you can't really tell it's rectangular [crappy shot and all that]

https://dad2059.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/rectufotexas-92910.jpg

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:38 PM
If UFOs exist, why would they want to be seen? Don't give a sh*t?

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:39 PM
If UFOs exist, why would they want to be seen? Don't give a sh*t?
HA! I wonder that my self. Maybe they just don't give a damn.

"oh they are seeing us... and they are trying to communicate. So cute... prepare the anal probes."

MonnoM
03-16-17, 10:39 PM
Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything. That means A) it's top secret government work or B) Aliens.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:41 PM
Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything. That means A) it's top secret government work or B) Aliens.
well, it certainly isn't portuguese. That much I can vouch for.

Camo
03-16-17, 10:42 PM
Stop looking for rational explanations Monno. It's aliens, it's always aliens!

Who built the pyramids? Aliens.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 10:43 PM
well, it certainly isn't portuguese. That much I can vouch for.

There's only one government.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:43 PM
It's a very big universe. Maybe endless. Who knows? There could be aliens, there could be UFOs. I'm open minded. Not believing in anything is just a trend.

Camo
03-16-17, 10:44 PM
I believe there's aliens out there somewhere but i don't believe they've visited earth.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:46 PM
I was actually just thinking about making a thread called "Let's Find Aliens!" Dedicated to news stories about possible life in outer space. It wouldn't have been the first time I made such a thread, though. I love the subject of aliens. Someone else can make the thread if they want.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:47 PM
I believe there's aliens out there somewhere but i don't believe they've visited earth.
Can't see why not. The interesting questions: Why would they? And how would they behave towards the Earthling creatures.

It all depends on how "they" [hypothetically speaking of course] would function and perceive things.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:49 PM
Well, maybe UFOs are just satellites without creatures in them, just exploring the planet -- like what we do with our own satellites, sending them out in the universe, to other planets. Or, maybe there are creatures on them, and all they're doing is just exploring, observing, collecting data, etc. I don't know.

Camo
03-16-17, 10:50 PM
If there are aliens they could be alot less advanced than us meaning we'd have to be the ones that find them once we are capable.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:50 PM
If there are aliens they could be alot less advanced than us meaning we'd have to be the ones that find them once we are capable.

There could be both. There could be less advanced aliens and more advanced aliens.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 10:50 PM
I love it when Sexy gets to speculating.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:51 PM
I was actually just thinking about making a thread called "Let's Find Aliens!" Dedicated to news stories about possible life in outer space. It wouldn't have been the first time I made such a thread, though. I love the subject of aliens. Someone else can make the thread if they want.
There is only one guy in the entire UFOlogy comunity I actually like to listen to [though he haven't said anything for some time now]: Richard Dolan.

Doesn't go the nutty way of saying "they are here because", "they are fallen angels", "we should embrace our Star Brothers and Sisters" "we are descendants of the Hanunaki" nor anything of that crappy nature.

He has a rather clinical point of view and seems very objective in his assertions.

Camo
03-16-17, 10:51 PM
Exactly, we don't really have a clue yet.

cricket
03-16-17, 10:52 PM
I believe in nothing:willem:

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:52 PM
If there are aliens they could be alot less advanced than us meaning we'd have to be the ones that find them once we are capable.
also true. And given our despotic nature, that wouldn't be good at all.

Camo
03-16-17, 10:53 PM
I believe in Vermin Supreme. That's about it.

The Rodent
03-16-17, 10:54 PM
Funny how people bark about when ancient people "suddenly got technology" like the Pyramids or something... "Must have been Aliens" they say, because people were smashing rocks together and using wooden tools, then suddenly built pyramids and had politics.


Nobody bats an eyelid though when they realise barely 100 years ago, the lightbulb didn't exist, yet today we have nuclear fusion, space travel and internet.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 10:55 PM
I love it when Sexy gets to speculating.

Honestly, if I wasn't a MoFo, I'd probably be a UFOlogist. One of those kooks with the CB radios and telescopes, who hunts for UFOs all day long. There is a UFOlogist buried inside me. It could be another persona/alt account of mine. The only reason it hasn't come out is because.... I'm not fully convinced UFOs actually exist, but I am interested in hearing about them. I took a more Fox Mulder route. I'm the sexy ufologist.

Cobpyth
03-16-17, 10:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGN959Wt5SY

Did some research, simply because I was fascinated. My guesses:

#5 It's either suicide or murder. Both are possible. She had depressions in the past and she had her (possibly Turkish) enemies because of her career in journalism.

#4 He started showing extremely odd behavior right after the fight he had (even that same night, according to his friends), so it seems like his brain was hurt during the fight and he became irrationally paranoid. He went hiding somewhere and probably died and hasn't been found yet.

#3 Took the other exit and was then killed/had an accident and somehow still hasn't been found.

#2 A very odd suicide.

#1 Crazy family commited suicide together, possibly drug-induced.

Cobpyth
03-16-17, 10:56 PM
MonnoM Sexy Celebrity

Here ya go.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/1eph06.jpg

Drone.

The Rodent
03-16-17, 10:57 PM
Honestly, if I wasn't a MoFo, I'd probably be a UFOlogist. One of those kooks with the CB radios and telescopes, who hunts for UFOs all day long. There is a UFOlogist buried inside me. It could be another persona/alt account of mine. The only reason it hasn't come out is because.... I'm not fully convinced UFOs actually exist, but I am interested in hearing about them. I took a more Fox Mulder route. I'm the sexy ufologist.



I'm a MoFologist.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 10:59 PM
Funny how people bark about when ancient people "suddenly got technology" like the Pyramids or something... "Must have been Aliens" they say, because people were smashing rocks together and using wooden tools, then suddenly built pyramids and had politics.


Nobody bats an eyelid though when they realise barely 100 years ago, the lightbulb didn't exist, yet today we have nuclear fusion, space travel and internet.
Some people think that only the 20th century got to know advancement. It really is baffling. We didn't move that much in the building/architectural area at all for quite some centuries. The concepts are still the same: build larger bellow and narrower on top to make it big tall and strong.

The Rodent
03-16-17, 10:59 PM
I was more on about the way people cherry-pick details for their argument.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 11:00 PM
Drone.
way too big for a drone« [unless there are drones the size of two football fields in length, give or take]

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:01 PM
What were drones even like in 2004?

Little Devil
03-16-17, 11:01 PM
I was more on about the way people cherry-pick details for their argument.
well that too.

OdumC
03-16-17, 11:02 PM
Some people think that only the 20th century got to know advancement. It really is baffling. We didn't move that much in the building/architectural area at all for quite some centuries. The concepts are still the same: build larger bellow and narrower on top to make it big tall and strong.A lot of people claim the technology boom was from reverse engineering the alien tech from captured ufo's in area 51.

so that's why they don't balk at sudden surges in progress, it's always aliens.

The Rodent
03-16-17, 11:02 PM
Some people think that only the 20th century got to know advancement. It really is baffling. We didn't move that much in the building/architectural area at all for quite some centuries. The concepts are still the same: build larger bellow and narrower on top to make it big tall and strong.



Actually, if you think about it... religion started to die off in the 20th... and suddenly technology wasn't a stoneable offence.


Family Guy summed it up quite well.
Stewie and Brian go the another dimension... looks like the future... turns out it's the same year... except in that dimension religion didn't exist, which meant science and technology progressed and wasn't seen as the Devil's Work.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:03 PM
Did some research, simply because I was fascinated. My guesses:

#5 It's either suicide or murder. Both are possible. She had depressions in the past and she had her (possibly Turkish) enemies because of her career in journalism.

#4 He started showing extremely odd behavior right after the fight he had (even that same night, according to his friends), so it seems like his brain was hurt during the fight and he became irrationally paranoid. He went hiding somewhere and probably died and hasn't been found yet.

#3 Took the other exit and was then killed/had an accident and somehow still hasn't been found.

#2 A very odd suicide.

#1 Crazy family commited suicide together, possibly drug-induced.

5) I'm thinking murder, to be honest.
4)I couldn't agree more. A brain injury was the first thing that came to mind.
3)I have a suspicion that the owner of the bar had something to do with his disappearance and possible murder.
2) I'll have to watch it again, currently I'm on a laptop that doesn't play videos well.
1) They were involved in drugs. Possibly owed money and were killed.

I have more, but I'll post them tomorrow when I'm on a functioning PC.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:04 PM
Honestly, if I wasn't a MoFo, I'd probably be a UFOlogist. One of those kooks with the CB radios and telescopes, who hunts for UFOs all day long. There is a UFOlogist buried inside me. It could be another persona/alt account of mine. The only reason it hasn't come out is because.... I'm not fully convinced UFOs actually exist, but I am interested in hearing about them. I took a more Fox Mulder route. I'm the sexy ufologist.

I can see that. I'd probably end up buying your book.

7thson
03-16-17, 11:04 PM
Cigar-shaped UFOs are not a new thing. Especially here in my area near Eglin Airforce Base.

It is a long read but Gulf Breeze - where I spent many of my younger days, was a mecca of UFO sightings.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/gulfbreeze.html

I saw plenty of strange lights in th esky growing up, but we all chalked it up to the military. Nowadays I wonder, because



There's some things in this world you just can't explain





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSM7voOCkU0

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:05 PM
I can see that. I'd probably end up buying your book.

No need. I'll probably just write the whole thing for free in a thread here.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 11:07 PM
Actually, if you think about it... religion started to die off in the 20th... and suddenly technology wasn't a stoneable offence.


Family Guy summed it up quite well.
Stewie and Brian go the another dimension... looks like the future... turns out it's the same year... except in that dimension religion didn't exist, which meant science and technology progressed and wasn't seen as the Devil's Work.
Sure, but we didn't start building large monuments in the 20th century.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:07 PM
Rodent, when are you gonna tell Little Devil about your encounters with aliens?

Camo
03-16-17, 11:08 PM
5) I'm thinking murder, to be honest.
4)I couldn't agree more. A brain injury was the first thing that came to mind.
3)I have a suspicion that the owner of the bar had something to do with his disappearance and possible murder.
2) I'll have to watch it again, currently I'm on a laptop that doesn't play videos well.
1) They were involved in drugs. Possibly owed money and were killed.

I have more, but I'll post them tomorrow when I'm on a functioning PC.

Why do you think drugs for #1? I haven't looked any of it up so maybe there was more to that theory but if there was the video didn't go into it and it said there was no evidence of drug use in their home. Unless you think they were selling drugs, the theory in the video was that they smoked meth.

Pretty much agree with Cob's guesses.

The Rodent
03-16-17, 11:08 PM
Nah.
You do it.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:08 PM
I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I didn't watch the video.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:09 PM
I won't lie, I keep an open mind about this stuff. My book collection would make anyone think I'm a nutter. But who's to say. Aliens could very well exist, down from a singular cell to an intelligent, sentient being.

Cobpyth
03-16-17, 11:09 PM
way too big for a drone« [unless there are drones the size of two football fields in length, give or take]

Two football fields seems a bit grotesque, but I'm pretty sure there were large and relatively silent drones back in 2004. Were you close to a military basis or something like that?

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:10 PM
Nah.
You do it.

I don't remember what happened to you. Something about you going to sleep at night, and they were in your bedroom, and I think sometimes they showed up in your dreams. Sometimes they were gnomes in the garden. Sometimes they appeared in the desert scenes of Young Guns while you watched it. I don't know. You were there when it happened. You be the storyteller.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:12 PM
Why do you think drugs for #1? I haven't looked any of it up so maybe there was more to that theory but if there was the video didn't go into it and it said there was no evidence of drug use in their home. Unless you think they were selling drugs, the theory in the video was that they smoked meth.

Pretty much agree with Cob's guesses.

Selling it. I think they owed money and tried to run away.

Camo
03-16-17, 11:12 PM
Alien-Gnomes? Awesome. There's got to be a movie somewhere about evil gnomes.

Camo
03-16-17, 11:13 PM
Selling it. I think they owed money and tried to run away.

Yeah could be then. To me it seemed like murder-suicide, the parents had planned it for whatever reason. As i said though i only went by the video i didn't look it up.

OdumC
03-16-17, 11:13 PM
I won't lie, I keep an open mind about this stuff. My book collection would make anyone think I'm a nutter. But who's to say. Aliens could very well exist, down from a singular cell to an intelligent, sentient being.Actually when you ;look at the size of the universe and take into account we're a fourth rate planet orbiting a third rate star it becomes laughable to think that in that endless expanse this is the ONLY planet to support life.

OdumC
03-16-17, 11:15 PM
Selling it. I think they owed money and tried to run away.They found $32k in their abandoned truck. hard to believe if they were killed over money the killer would leave that behind.

Little Devil
03-16-17, 11:15 PM
Cigar-shaped UFOs are not a new thing. Especially here in my area near Eglin Airforce Base.

It is a long read but Gulf Breeze - where I spent many of my younger days, was a mecca of UFO sightings.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/gulfbreeze.html

I saw plenty of strange lights in th esky growing up, but we all chalked it up to the military. Nowadays I wonder, because



There's some things in this world you just can't explain

Thanks, that was a very interesting read. :)

7thson
03-16-17, 11:16 PM
There are way more galaxies than there are people on Earth, now and the past combined. Pretty sure there is something out there...


http://www.physics.org/facts/sand-galaxies.asp

Little Devil
03-16-17, 11:17 PM
Two football fields seems a bit grotesque, but I'm pretty sure there were large and relatively silent drones back in 2004. Were you close to a military basis or something like that?
No. The military base is down south. It wasn't a military plane [not ours anyway].

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:17 PM
Actually when you ;look at the size of the universe and take into account we're a fourth rate planet orbiting a third rate star it becomes laughable to think that in that endless expanse this is the ONLY planet to support life.

I read the other day that Neil deGrasse Tyson and some other scientists think we're all living in a simulation of a universe. That we're all characters in a video game. A video game created by aliens.

They think the fact that we haven't found aliens so far may be proof of this. They say the reason we can't make contact with aliens is because in this simulation we're living in, they purposely didn't put aliens out there in the universe. They don't exist because we're in a simulation without aliens. Everything out there is just background wallpaper. It's all a trick.

Camo
03-16-17, 11:20 PM
I read the other day that Neil deGrasse Tyson and some other scientists think we're all living in a simulation of a universe. That we're all characters in a video game. A video game created by aliens.

They think the fact that we haven't found aliens so far may be proof of this. They say the reason we can't make contact with aliens is because in this simulation we're living in, they purposely didn't put aliens out there in the universe. They don't exist because we're in a simulation without aliens. Everything out there is just background wallpaper. It's all a trick.

There's a South Park episode called "Kancelled" which is about Earth being the most popular show made by aliens. They took all of the different species from various planets; cows, dogs, asians haha, and put them together on a random planet and sat back to watch the shenanigans.

Cobpyth
03-16-17, 11:20 PM
I read the other day that Neil deGrasse Tyson and some other scientists think we're all living in a simulation of a universe. That we're all characters in a video game. A video game created by aliens.

They think the fact that we haven't found aliens so far may be proof of this. They say the reason we can't make contact with aliens is because in this simulation we're living in, they purposely didn't put aliens out there in the universe. They don't exist because we're in a simulation without aliens. Everything out there is just background wallpaper. It's all a trick.

I watched the talk about that when it came out. Here it is for those who are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZA3NPpBs

Little Devil
03-16-17, 11:21 PM
I read the other day that Neil deGrasse Tyson and some other scientists think we're all living in a simulation of a universe. That we're all characters in a video game. A video game created by aliens.

They think the fact that we haven't found aliens so far may be proof of this. They say the reason we can't make contact with aliens is because in this simulation we're living in, they purposely didn't put aliens out there in the universe. They don't exist because we're in a simulation without aliens. Everything out there is just background wallpaper. It's all a trick.
It's a fine of example of "just because he's a scientist you don't have to take his word for it" case.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:21 PM
They found $32k in their abandoned truck. hard to believe if they were killed over money the killer would leave that behind.

You know what, I think I'm confusing some of this case with the Mcstay family case. The two have similarities. They're the ones I think were involved in drugs and killed by drug dealers. The Jamison family I still believe were not only taking and selling drugs, but also owed money. Hence the running away. Their actual deaths could've been murder/suicide, though.

OdumC
03-16-17, 11:22 PM
I read the other day that Neil deGrasse Tyson and some other scientists think we're all living in a simulation of a universe. That we're all characters in a video game. A video game created by aliens.

They think the fact that we haven't found aliens so far may be proof of this. They say the reason we can't make contact with aliens is because in this simulation we're living in, they purposely didn't put aliens out there in the universe. They don't exist because we're in a simulation without aliens. Everything out there is just background wallpaper. It's all a trick.I'll be needing the cheat code if that's the case....

Camo
03-16-17, 11:24 PM
You know what, I think I'm confusing some of this case with the Mcstay family case. The two have similarities. They're the ones I think were involved in drugs and killed by drug dealers. The Jamison family I still believe were not only taking and selling drugs, but also owed money. Hence the running away. Their actual deaths could've been murder/suicide, though.

The McStay case has been solved. It was the fathers business partner, that's what i thought it was at first as i forgot the name.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:26 PM
The McStay case has been solved. It was the fathers business partner, that's what i thought it was at first as i forgot the name.

Last I read they just found the bodies near the Mexican border. The business partner? Wow. I'll have to read up on this.

Cobpyth
03-16-17, 11:27 PM
It's a fine of example of "just because he's a scientist you don't have to take his word for it" case.

He doesn't actually believe it. He was one of the people on the panel (which is full of acknowledged scientists) that were very skeptical about the idea.

I actually happen to think it's an interesting theory to think about, because it's entirely rationally explainable. Naturally I don't really believe in it, because somehow I have a hard time believing in anything that seems too out of the ordinary, but it's a cool thought experiment and I enjoyed the above talk about it a lot, even though the whole thing is probably more some kind of "commercial for science". They're not acting that cool just for the sake of it.

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:27 PM
My ex's house was legit haunted, I didn't believe in ghosts of supernatural stuff til I lived there a few years... People that know me are surprised to hear me say a place was haunted but as I always tell them, "There's only so long you can live next to an expressway and not believe in cars..."

I saw and experienced stuff that t this day give me goosebumps to even think about.

Do tell.

Camo
03-16-17, 11:29 PM
Last I read they just found the bodies near the Mexican border. The business partner? Wow. I'll have to read up on this.

Actually just looked it up, to be fair he hasn't stood trial yet. Apparently he had a gambling problem and he wrote checks using the fathers account in the days after they were killed.

The Rodent
03-16-17, 11:30 PM
Woops.
Internet dropped out and picked up some dodgy cookies. Had to reset computer.


Yeah I've seen stuff I can't explain... remember it clearly.
Not getting into it now though :)

MonnoM
03-16-17, 11:31 PM
Actually just looked it up, to be fair he hasn't stood trial yet. Apparently he had a gambling problem and he wrote checks using the fathers account in the days after they were killed.

Jesus Christ.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:31 PM
Yeah I've seen stuff I can't explain... remember it clearly.
Not getting into it now though :)

Good. Glad to see you're sober.

Sexy Celebrity
03-16-17, 11:36 PM
He doesn't actually believe it. He was one of the people on the panel (which is full of acknowledged scientists) that were very skeptical about the idea.

I actually happen to think it's an interesting theory to think about, because it's entirely rationally explainable. Naturally I don't really believe in it, because somehow I have a hard time believing in anything that seems too out of the ordinary, but it's a cool thought experiment and I enjoyed the above talk about it a lot, even though the whole thing is probably more some kind of "commercial for science". They're not acting that cool just for the sake of it.

I don't think I believe in it, either. I think it's totally possible. I think, as you said, it's a way to look at things differently. I don't think it's really all that bad if we are just a simulation. However, I'm pissed that the programmer decided I needed to be a 15+ year member of Movie Forums.

MonnoM
03-17-17, 12:43 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrare

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 02:32 AM
Can't wait to go back and read the last few pages!

I know I've told my Black Helicopters story on this site (yes, I saw them, felt them is more appropriate since they don't make any noise).

Have I told my UFO that became an IFO story?

Sexy Celebrity
03-17-17, 02:33 AM
Can't wait to go back and read the last few pages!

I know I've told my Black Helicopters story on this site (yes, I saw them, felt them is more appropriate since they don't make any noise).

Have I told my UFO that became an IFO story?

Now here's someone else with issues. Hello, Captain Steel!

This man goes crazy when he hears the sound of basketballs. And he has seen black helicopters and UFOs and things.

Camo
03-17-17, 02:42 AM
Can't wait to go back and read the last few pages!

I know I've told my Black Helicopters story on this site (yes, I saw them, felt them is more appropriate since they don't make any noise).

Have I told my UFO that became an IFO story?

Did a UFO walk into your house one night? :p:laugh:

Sexy Celebrity
03-17-17, 02:45 AM
Did a UFO walk into your house one night? :p:laugh:

It would be interesting if Captain Steel was ever abducted by aliens. He'd immediately get a computer and make a thread about it and provide commentary as he's being anally probed. :mrt:

Camo
03-17-17, 03:00 AM
Think i've probably posted these before but anyway my stories/experiences told quickly as i'm logging out soon. When i was about 11 me and my cousin got stuck in a lift the lights went out and we could clearly hear the X Files theme song, we were terrified. Now i'm older i tend to think me and her just misremember it, i dunno if we watched the x files at the time or what but it wouldn't surprise me, it was probably just some music coming from a house on the floor we stopped at and we convinced ourselves it was the x files, or it may have been someone watching the x files :laugh:. Maybe even the concierge played it as there was a camera with a speaker he could talk through, maybe he tried to scare us coz i would've, hilarious. I dunno we were terrified anyway.

The main one that really creeped me out was when i was about 13 i was hungry so i went looking for my dad to ask him to make me something. It was only me and him in the house i went into his room and thought i could hear someone on the toilet, so i knocked the door and asked if he was in; i heard back in a soft voice "be down in a minute son". Then i turned around and went straight to the kitchen and he was standing there. My dad still remembers it happening like that too but who knows we could have both convinced ourselves of that after retelling it for so many years. I don't believe it was really anything paranormal.

Couple of my families stories: when my sister was about 5 my aunt bought her clothes for her birthday or christmas don't remember which, she put them on then later came in wearing something else so my aunt asked her why she changed and my sister responded "granny sarah said she doesn't like them". My mum and aunt claim that my sister couldn't have known her grans name as she died before she was born and she was very young which is true, but again i think they've just convinced theirselves of this over the years. The story has probably changed alot since it first happened, i mean it would be 22-23 years ago now.

This one i remember; when my younger brother was about 2-3 he would always claim he saw a woman wearing red walking about the house, it stopped when we moved house. I don't think it was actually something paranormal but that still creeps me out just thinking of a kid that young saying stuff like that.

As you can tell i'm a skeptic. I think these stories are misremembered/exaggerated over the years. Not deliberately i just think that's what happens. Just my opinion.

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 03:09 AM
Now here's someone else with issues. Hello, Captain Steel!

This man goes crazy when he hears the sound of basketballs. And he has seen black helicopters and UFOs and things.

Hey, everything on my list is real: basketballs are real, (and heck, if people are claiming that gender confusion identity is a real psycho-physical medical condition that requires genital dismemberment, then my misophonia is way more real as a audio / psychological / neurological disorder)!
Helicopters are real (and black ones are real).
And my UFO sighting turned out to be a confirmed IFO, and I'm sure no one will contest the fact that Identified flying objects are real. ;)

Camo
03-17-17, 03:13 AM
I think a lot of people say things - believe in things - that just aren't true, totally didn't happen - but they convince themselves it did happen. Like, Camo's younger brother may NOT have seen a woman wearing red walking around his house. He just might have SAID he did, imagined it, perhaps to make people feel fascinated by him. I totally believe such things like that can happen.

I think that's what happened myself. Just a kid looking for attention and he may have seen a woman on tv wearing red and just decided to say that, my mum was freaked right out by it.

Camo
03-17-17, 03:14 AM
Hey, everything on my list is real: basketballs are real, (and heck, if people are claiming that gender confusion identity is a real psycho-physical medical condition that requires genital dismemberment, then my misophonia is way more real as a audio / psychological / neurological disorder)!
Helicopters are real (and black ones are real).
And my UFO sighting turned out to be a confirmed IFO, and I'm sure no one will contest the fact that Identified flying objects are real. ;)

What did it turn out to be?

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 03:21 AM
...... I think it's all just in people's heads. Ghosts, gender confusion, misophonia, you name it. Yes, I would compare the gender issues people are having to ghosts. That's our big modern day delusion, I think. Wake up and realize it, please.

As we've discussed before - misophonia is most definitely all in my head. That's the problem. Whether it is entirely a psychological disorder, a physical / hypersensitivity / neurological one or something in between - the lack of knowing a precise cause for the symptoms doesn't make the condition cease to exist, nor would knowing a precise cause automatically make the symptoms cease without discovering a workable way to treat them.

But don't worry, when it gets bad, I won't go injecting myself with hormones or seek out a surgeon to surgically remove my eardrums and make little vaginas out of the leftover tissue!
(Heck, I probably just described the only cure anyone will ever find for misophonia.) ;)

Camo
03-17-17, 03:24 AM
It's awesome when random threads like this explode for a night; SC is usually part of it, and Captain actually. Good job gang :cool:

Camo
03-17-17, 03:27 AM
My mum will sign up all hysterical "MY SON DIDN'T MAKE IT UP!" :rotfl:

Swan
03-17-17, 03:28 AM
Unsolved Mystery, Case File #55435: Sexy Celebrity's Last Post in This Thread

Camo
03-17-17, 03:28 AM
Dammit that makes no sense now that you deleted yours.

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:31 AM
Well technically, UFOs are real.


Someone says "UFO" and people immediately think Aliens.


UFO, is exactly that.
Unidentified.


When you look up, and see something in the air, flying along... maybe even with a vapour trail behind it.
You instantly know it's an airplane.


Ok.. tell me... what is the type of airplane? Airline that owns it? Serial number? Flight number? Number of Crew? Passengers? How about the even the colour?
You can't.


Technically, it's a UFO.

Camo
03-17-17, 03:33 AM
Think everyone already knows that Rodent. Someone always points that out everytime a UFO is brought up, actually i know it has been brought up on this site before.

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 03:33 AM
What did it turn out to be?

It was sometime after 2008 because it happened while I lived in my most recent house just after I moved.

Was taking the garbage out on a clear night when I noticed a pinpoint of light overhead - it wasn't the point of a star because it had a distinct angular shape (kind of like a computer screen pointer without the little tail) even though it was tiny. It was surrounded by a circular halo of light that very gradually got larger as it seemed to expand out from the point of light.

I went through all the possibilities in my mind: it wasn't the lights of an oncoming plane, it wasn't a star, it wasn't a meteor. Why did it have a perfectly round halo around it when there weren't any clouds in the sky to create such an effect - unless I was l looking at something beyond the cloud layer.

I ran inside to get binoculars, but when I returned the halo was now huge, but fading rapidly along with the piercing triangular dot of light at its center.

Then scary things started to occur to me - what it it's a UFO, what if it's a distant star that just went nova (and sometime next week we'll all fry from a gamma-ray pulse), what if it's a nuclear missile that's exploded in the upper atmosphere, but which we just haven't felt on the ground yet?

I posted about it on the eBay boards the next day. Soon I got responses from others on the east coast that they saw it too. Finally, someone linked a newspaper report that said it was a NASA test rocket launched from a military base in VA. (I wish I could still find that article.)

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:33 AM
Think everyone already knows that Rodent. Someone always points that out everytime a UFO is brought up, actually i know it has been brought up on this site before.



Might have been me, I recall posting something similar in the past :D

Swan
03-17-17, 03:34 AM
Your face is a UFO!!!

Camo
03-17-17, 03:35 AM
Might have been me, I recall posting something similar in the past :D

It's like something a 5 year old says to try and impress people :laugh:. I actually remember my nephew telling me that when he was 6 or something, he was so proud of himself haha.

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 03:35 AM
I LOVE you guys!!! :D

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:36 AM
I'm a UFO.


Uncompromising, Farting, Overweight.

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:37 AM
I've put about a stone on recently :D

Sexy Celebrity
03-17-17, 03:38 AM
I've put about a stone on recently :D

Are you still going out and playing pool? I haven't heard about it anymore.

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:39 AM
Nah, between seasons at the moment with pool.

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 03:45 AM
I'm a UFO.


Uncompromising, Farting, Overweight.

I'm having the most incredible dejavu right now. Did you make this joke the last time UFO's came up, Rodent?

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:46 AM
Don't think I did tbh.

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:48 AM
Talking of Deja Vu and unexplained stuff.


I was once experiencing Deja Vu... and I actually guessed what was going to happen next.
I was in the hallway at my Dad's putting my coat on, getting ready to leave... seemed so familiar for some reason... and I said out loud "Dad, your phone is gonna ring, it's Teresa"


And it did. And it was.

OdumC
03-17-17, 03:49 AM
Yeah decided not to give trolls ammo. Missed the last post, don't worry it's gone but the sentiment remains

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:51 AM
I do wish you guys wouldn't delete posts.
Makes the whole thing weird.


I've binned posts in the past, like when I've answered a question but someone else was quicker than me... but not when I've been having a full on conversation.

Camo
03-17-17, 03:51 AM
Talking of Deja Vu and unexplained stuff.


I was once experiencing Deja Vu... and I actually guessed what was going to happen next.
I was in the hallway at my Dad's putting my coat on, getting ready to leave... seemed so familiar for some reason... and I said out loud "Dad, your phone is gonna ring, it's Teresa"


And it did. And it was.

I did this exact thing about 9 months ago to a friend, was really creepy. Also my mum's name is Teresa, hope it wasn't her calling your dad :coleman:

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:52 AM
:laugh:
Brothers!!!!

OdumC
03-17-17, 03:53 AM
I do wish you guys wouldn't delete posts.
Makes the whole thing weird.


I've binned posts in the past, like when I've answered a question but someone else was quicker than me... but not when I've been having a full on conversation.it wasn't a conversation

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 03:55 AM
OdumC deleted his ghost story posts. He kept the one where he yelled at me.

I don't blame him. Do whatever's comfortable.

Just now it looks like I was conversing with a GHOST. That's okay.

Dang! I was planning to go back and read it!
But then of course Sexy had to distract me by questioning my mental conditions. He made me miss it! Know why? Because he's the Queen of the Harpies! THE QUEEN OF THE HARPIES!!! (that's my Richard Burton impression, btw) ;)

The Rodent
03-17-17, 03:58 AM
What you have to remember with SC is he has no filter in his brain.


He doesn't say things to get personal or offend... he's just lacking that filter that makes normal people say the same thing but more politely.
SC just types the first thing that he thinks.

Camo
03-17-17, 03:58 AM
I know i wasn't the only one that read that as "queen of herpies".

The Rodent
03-17-17, 04:01 AM
Sexy Celebrity


In future, when you're typing... stop for a second... think about it... and if, even though you know it will probably upset someone, but you still feel the urge to actually post...


Just post this instead.
https://acoursetothefinishline.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/rabbit-pancake.jpg

Camo
03-17-17, 04:03 AM
How do you know?

How do you know you're on ignore i meant, you posted while i was.

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 04:05 AM
Now that I'm in a good paranormal mood, I can go listen to the rest of Coast to Coast (see if George Noory is on!)

But if it's all that spooky ghost haunting talk I'm turning it right off - none of that right be for bed in a cold, dark, lonely house. But if they're talking about science, paranormal politics (which it all is these days since Trump got involved) or Bigfoot... then I might listen till sun-up as I take the first star on the right and straight on till morning! :)

Camo
03-17-17, 04:05 AM
:laugh: Okay, i didn't see it.

Captain Steel
03-17-17, 04:13 AM
These IMDB people get angry so quickly.

I mean, they think TONGO's nice.

You think this is bad, wait till some of those Syrian refugees start posting here.

ash_is_the_gal
03-17-17, 10:16 AM
Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything. That means A) it's top secret government work or B) Aliens.

maybe it was just a really progressive bird

OdumC
03-17-17, 11:19 AM
What you have to remember with SC is he has no filter in his brain.


He doesn't say things to get personal or offend... he's just lacking that filter that makes normal people say the same thing but more politely.
SC just types the first thing that he thinks.Nah, I just removed them before they were removed for me and I got the "omg stop saying mean things back" lecture.. again.

Dani8
03-17-17, 02:30 PM
What you have to remember with SC is he has no filter in his brain.


He doesn't say things to get personal or offend... he's just lacking that filter that makes normal people say the same thing but more politely.
SC just types the first thing that he thinks.

Oh so he has anti social personality disorder? I thought as much.

Back to the topic, I played around with it when I was a kid. Ouija boards, tarot, cartouche, 'saw' some stuff I cant explain, but I grew out of it/shut it down/whatever. I just see things now in terms of energy. Would I tell someone who sees ghosts they're nutty? No. It's not for me to say what other people 'see'.

Just on that note. The Dalai Lama was once asked if he can levitate. He said no. He was asked if he believed other people could and he simply said - Well I've been told by people they've seen monks levitating and who am I to say they cannot. LOL. Gold!

Sexy Celebrity
03-17-17, 05:09 PM
Oh so he has anti social personality disorder? I thought as much.

You thought wrong.

MonnoM
03-18-17, 08:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Bobby_Dunbar

MonnoM
03-19-17, 05:24 PM
Probably someone lying about using sonar. But it still makes for an interesting read.

http://www.sciencealert.com/the-canadian-military-is-investigating-a-mysterious-sound-from-the-bottom-of-the-arctic

ashdoc
04-04-17, 03:08 PM
https://youtu.be/rIPHF-3IMpw

paranormal happenings in a hospital in my city

ashdoc
04-04-17, 03:29 PM
grand paradi towers---a complex of three high rises in my city where 20 suicides have been committed in last 42 years

http://www.theparanormalguide.com/blog/grand-paradi-towers-serial-suicides

Captain Steel
04-04-17, 04:42 PM
https://youtu.be/rIPHF-3IMpw

paranormal happenings in a hospital in my city

What's funny is the video description said the worker had to "run for his life," but he walks away pretty casually - much more casually than if he just saw things moving with no explanation. :D

(In my experience, it usually turns out to be a caretaker disguising himself as a ghost who ends up exposed by those meddling kids!)

Captain Steel
04-04-17, 05:11 PM
I just realized something really scary in ashdoc's video - it was filmed on July 3rd, 2017!
Now ghosts are sending us videos from the future!!!
Oops - forgot: Asians don't list the date the way westerners do! (so it was March 7th.) ;)

ashdoc
04-04-17, 06:04 PM
I just realized something really scary in ashdoc's video - it was filmed on July 3rd, 2017!
Now ghosts are sending us videos from the future!!!
Oops - forgot: Asians don't list the date the way westerners do! (so it was March 7th.) ;)

i don't know about that video but the other ( grand paradi towers ) story is true . anyway after reading about the grand paradi towers i went to sleep a little disturbed due to the story but woke up due to a strange nightmare---i dreamt that i was at the same theatre i go to usually to see all the movies i see and review here , but as the intermission of the movie came and i got up from my seat to go to the loo i was attacked by an usher who started beating me . i woke up due to this and can't sleep anymore right now . it's 2.30 am in india .

MonnoM
04-09-17, 03:11 AM
http://nypost.com/2017/04/05/student-obsessed-with-aliens-vanishes-leaving-behind-books-written-in-code/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFILxFWBEu0


"An alien-obsessed student from Brazil has mysteriously disappeared while working on his own secret X-File. Bruno Borges, 24, vanished from his home in Rio Branco on March 27, leaving behind his bedroom decked out floor to ceiling in “Da Vinci Code”-style alien language and satanic signs, the Mirror reported (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/student-mysteriously-disappears-leaving-behind-10162430).

Some of the elaborate writings in the room are passages from the Bible and phrases from Leonardo da Vinci.

A video posted by Globo.com shows a giant statue of 16th-century philosopher Giordano Bruno — who was one of the first to believe that aliens could exist on other planets — which he bought for $2,900 in one corner and a painted portrait of Borges with a green-eyed alien in another.

Borges’ family believes he was working on publishing 14 books written in code and marked with red Roman numerals that he left behind in the locked bedroom.

One of the passages was decoded by a Brazilian computer expert.

“It is easy to accept what you have been taught since childhood and what is wrong. It is difficult, as an adult to understand that you were wrongly taught what you suspected was correct since you were a child,” the passage allegedly says, according to the Mirror.

Borges had asked his family for money to fund his secret project, according to relatives, but wouldn’t provide any details about it. He only told them he was working on books that would “change humanity in a good way.”

Borges’ sister, Gabriela, told Diario Gaucho that he’d locked himself in his room for nearly a month while his parents were away traveling.

“He was clever. In school, he was always different — a born leader with high powers of persuasion,” said his mom, Denise Borges. “He is such a kindhearted boy.”

The Criminal Investigation Department is investigating the disappearance."

Omnizoa
04-09-17, 05:36 AM
Surveillance video diary of Fresno police harassment of Lang Marine before he allegedly disappeared: boop (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTMl9Ncxd-jhZ81s4z3XA6w/videos).

If I turn up missing or dead tomorrow remember this Van. I think I seen a couple of guys sneak out the side door and into the building when it was parked in the carport this afternoon. I've been causing the City of Fresno a lot of problems recently which I now regret.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5acGmgBGN8

Omnizoa
04-09-17, 05:41 AM
Also channel of the Russian guy who makes a homunculus in case nobody's linked that yet: boopdeboop (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC13jOfkwQtqqcLN5eoFPeZQ/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=grid).

A homunculus is an artificial person, a kind of clone created by medieval alchemists, who must have paranormal abilities.
My experiment, according to the recipe of Paracelsus, was made with some errors. As a result, in this anomalous creature, the intellect was at parasite level.
The method is not complicated, you can repeat it at home.Warning: Is gross. Don't repeat at home. Also turn on Closed Captions for subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLPXzlz6-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmLWnQGZhQ

MonnoM
04-10-17, 06:41 PM
The Disappearance of Kenny Veach

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/12/the-eerily-bizarre-vanishing-of-kenny-veach/

This is just the gist of the story, there's plenty more on MU (the only site I could find with the full story).

"In 2014, an avid and experienced hiker by the name of Kenny Veach started commenting on the popular video site YouTube that he had found a mysterious cave cloaked in oddity out in the Nevada desert in the Sheep Mountains, located within in the Desert National Wildlife Refuge north of Las Vegas, near Nellis Air Force Base. In the comment, the 47-year-old Veach claims that the cave entrance was rather oddly shaped, like the letter “M,” and that a variety of strange sensations had overcome him as he had approached. He claimed that as he had drawn closer to the enigmatic cave his body had been beset by powerful vibrations that pulsated and emanated out from an unknown source to shake him to the core. The vibrations engulfed his body and only got stronger and more unbearable the closer he got to the cave. Although he wished to continue and see what lie down in the darkness, at some point he began to fear for his life, and sensing that there were forces here beyond what he could understand, he had made a hasty retreat away from that ominous gash in the ground and all of its strangeness.

The comment generated an immense amount of interest in the enigmatic cave, as well as its fair share of debate, with many skeptics demanding proof of the whole ordeal. A lot of commenters began replying that a follow up expedition was in order to what was becoming known as the “M Cave,” and for his part Kenny said that this is exactly what he planned to do once he was properly prepared and equipped. He would eventually venture out once again into the rugged Nevada badlands with a camera to record his exploits and any evidence he came across, but on this second trip he was unable to relocate the cave. He uploaded the video of this expedition, which only further generated interest in the mysterious cave. Encountering that cave seemed to be quite a big deal for him, a frightening life-changing experience, and he posted before his excursion:

The region that I cover is vast. There are many caves. I have been in hundreds of them. The M-cave is the only cave I ever feared… I dare any of the people that like to run their mouths on here to join me.

Some other commenters strongly warned against it, with some pleading that he not go back because he would likely never return and calling it folly.

After his scheduled return came and went and Veach’s family and friends became increasingly concerned, an intensive air and ground search was launched by authorities and volunteers to scour the area. During the search efforts the only sign of Kenny Veach that was turned up was his cellphone, which was found lying on the ground near an old, vertical mine shaft with no other trails leading out into the wilderness."


http://news3lv.com/archive/cell-phone-of-missing-hiker-found-near-abandoned-mine-shaft

Original video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfdrY-2sROQ

SeeingisBelieving
04-11-17, 10:09 AM
Somewhat cruelly I saw this and thought: Tom Hiddleston's popularity. Also it does make me laugh that his fling with Taylor Swift has made it less likely for him to be approached for Bond.

MonnoM
04-16-17, 10:56 PM
Gloria Ramirez "The Toxic Lady"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Ramirez

"About 8:15 p.m. on the evening of February 19, 1994, Ramirez, suffering from the effects of advanced cervical cancer, was brought into the emergency room of Riverside General Hospital by paramedics. She was extremely confused and was suffering from tachycardia and Cheyne-Stokes respiration. The medical staff injected her with diazepam, midazolam, and lorazepam to sedate her. When it became clear that Ramirez was responding poorly to treatment, the staff tried to defibrillate her heart; at that point several people saw an oily sheen covering Ramirez's body, and some noticed a fruity, garlic-like odor that they thought was coming from her mouth. A registered nurse named Susan Kane attempted to draw blood from Ramirez's arm and noticed an ammonia-like smell coming from the tube.
She passed the syringe to Julie Gorchynski, a medical resident, who noticed manila-colored particles floating in the blood. At this point, Kane fainted and was removed from the room. Shortly thereafter, Gorchynski began to feel nauseated. Complaining that she was lightheaded, she left the trauma room and sat at a nurse's desk. A staff member asked her if she was okay, but before she could respond she also fainted. Maureen Welch, a respiratory therapist who was assisting in the trauma room was the third to pass out. The staff was then ordered to evacuate all emergency room patients to the parking lot outside the hospital. Overall, 23 people became ill and 5 were hospitalized. A skeleton crew stayed behind to stabilize Ramirez. At 8:50pm, after 45 minutes of CPR and defibrillation, Ramirez was pronounced dead from kidney failure related to her cancer."

MonnoM
04-20-17, 02:16 AM
Mysterious White Web found in Power Plant
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5868883/mysterious-white-webs-found-growing-on-nuclear-waste

"Scientists at the Department of Energy's Savannah River Site — a nuclear reservation in South Carolina — have identified a strange, cob-web like "growth" (their word, not ours) on the racks of the facility's spent nuclear fuel assemblies.

According to a report filed by the Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board, "the growth, which resembles a spider web, has yet to be characterized, but may be biological in nature."

The Augusta Chronicle reported today that the "white, string-like" material was discovered amidst thousands of the spent fuel assemblies, which are submerged in deep nuclear storage pools within SRS's L Area Complex. (The image up top is of a similar nuclear storage pool at Italy's Caorso Nuclear Power Plant, which was decommissioned in 1990.)

The safety board's report claimed that the initial sample of the growth was too small to characterize, and that "further evaluation still needs to be completed."

I don't know what's more intriguing — the fact that the "growth" resembles a spider web, the fact that it may be biological in nature, or the fact that (even after collecting a sample of the stuff) we still don't know what it is or where it came from.

We've already tried getting in touch with both the Savannah River Site as well as the Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board, but so far have been unable to speak with anybody to ask additional questions about the growth and where it's occurring specifically.

Could we be dealing with an unknown species of extremophile? It's possible — the Savannah River Site's storage facility (The L Area Complex mentioned above) stores spent nuclear waste in pools that are anywhere from 17-30 feet deep, and while that water is enough to protect the site's workers from radiation, the growth was reportedly found underwater on the submerged fuel assemblies themselves.

Having said that, we're still not clear on how much, if any, radiation this growth has actually been exposed to. Organisms with a natural resistance to radiation are said to be "radioresistant," and certainly do exist; Deinococcus radiodurans, for example (pictured here) is not only one of the most naturally radioresistant organisms on Earth, we've actually genetically engineered Deinococcus that can be used in the treatment of radioactive waste."


This was years ago and no talk of it since. Probably turned out to be nothing, but for now let's enjoy the mystery. :D

cat_sidhe
04-20-17, 06:12 AM
Somewhat cruelly I saw this and thought: Tom Hiddleston's popularity. Also it does make me laugh that his fling with Taylor Swift has made it less likely for him to be approached for Bond.

I didn't quite get the appeal either, until I saw him on Graham Norton and the man was CHARMING. I mean like "omg he's CUTE!" charming.

SeeingisBelieving
04-20-17, 07:18 AM
I didn't quite get the appeal either, until I saw him on Graham Norton and the man was CHARMING. I mean like "omg he's CUTE!" charming.

Being a fan of Wallander it was a pity that I first saw him in the Kenneth Branagh series. They were all terrible in that.

ynwtf
04-20-17, 01:26 PM
If UFOs exist, why would they want to be seen? Don't give a sh*t?

Not that I have any opinion one way or another, I want to reply to this because the thought tickled me.

I don't typically hide from ants when they look to the sky. Generally, I don't even empathize with their perspective of awareness. ;)

On a more relatable note, humans look right past other humans every moment of every day without troubling themselves to leave other's view. From the annoying coworker to the homeless guy on the corner asking for a dollar, people just walk on by without another thought. It could be spite or pure inconsiderate dismissal.

If they do exist, I don't know if we're more like the ant or the disruptive coworker. Either way, they probably wouldn't like us ;)


iderno.

MonnoM
04-23-17, 01:20 AM
The Great Attractor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor

"The Great Attractor is a gravitational anomaly in intergalactic space at the center of the Laniakea Supercluster that reveals the existence of a localised concentration of mass tens of thousands of times more massive than the Milky Way. This mass is observable by its effect on the motion of galaxies and their associated clusters over a region hundreds of millions of light-years across. The Great Attractor is moving towards the Shapley Supercluster."

MonnoM
04-23-17, 03:12 PM
Kryptos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos

"Kryptos is a sculpute by the American artist Jim Sanborn located on the grounds of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in Langley, Virginia. Since its dedication on November 3, 1990, there has been much speculation about the meaning of the four encrypted messages it bears. Of the four messages, the first three have been solved, while the fourth message remains as one of the most famous unsolved codes in the world. The sculpture continues to be of interest to cryptanalysts, both amateur and professional, who are attempting to decipher the fourth passage. The artist has so far given two clues to this passage.

The ciphertext on the left-hand side of the sculpture (as seen from the courtyard) of the main sculpture contains 869 characters in total : 865 letters and 4 question marks.
In April 2006, however, Sanborn released information stating that a letter was omitted from this side of Kryptos "for aesthetic reasons, to keep the sculpture visually balanced".

There are also three misspelled words in the plaintext of the deciphered first three passages, which Sanborn has said was intentional, and three letters (YAR) near the beginning of the bottom half of the left side are the only characters on the sculpture in superscript.

The right-hand side of the sculpture comprises a keyed Vigenère encryption tableau, consisting of 867 letters.

One of the lines of the Vigenère tableau has an extra character (L), which Sanborn has indicated was accidental.

Sanborn worked with a retiring CIA employee named Ed Scheidt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Scheidt), Chairman of the CIA Office of Communications, to come up with the cryptographic systems used on the sculpture.

Sanborn has revealed that the sculpture contains a riddle within a riddle, which will be solvable only after the four encrypted passages have been deciphered.

He has given conflicting information about the sculpture's answer, saying at one time that he gave the complete solution to the then-CIA director William Webster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Webster) during the dedication ceremony; but later, he also said that he had not given Webster the entire solution. He did, however, confirm that within the passage of the plaintext of the second message which reads "Who knows the exact location? Only WW.", "WW" was intended to refer to William Webster.

Sanborn also confirmed that should he die before the entire sculpture becomes deciphered, there will be someone able to confirm the solution."

Solution of passage 1

Method : Vigenère (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigen%C3%A8re_cipher)
Keywords: Kryptos, Palimpsest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimpsest)

BETWEEN SUBTLE SHADING AND THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT LIES THE NUANCE OF IQLUSION

Solution of passage 2

Method : Vigenère (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigen%C3%A8re_cipher)
Keywords: Kryptos, Abscissa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscissa)

IT WAS TOTALLY INVISIBLE HOWS THAT POSSIBLE ? THEY USED THE EARTHS MAGNETIC FIELD X THE INFORMATION WAS GATHERED AND TRANSMITTED UNDERGRUUND TO AN UNKNOWN LOCATION X DOES LANGLEY KNOW ABOUT THIS ? THEY SHOULD ITS BURIED OUT THERE SOMEWHERE X WHO KNOWS THE EXACT LOCATION ? ONLY WW THIS WAS HIS LAST MESSAGE X THIRTY EIGHT DEGREES FIFTY SEVEN MINUTES SIX POINT FIVE SECONDS NORTH SEVENTY SEVEN DEGREES EIGHT MINUTES FORTY FOUR SECONDS WEST X LAYER TWO

On April 19, 2006, Sanborn contacted an online community dedicated to the Kryptos puzzle to inform them that the accepted solution to passage 2 was incorrect. He said that he made an error in the sculpture by omitting an "X" used to separate sentences, for aesthetic reasons, and that the deciphered text that ended "...FOUR SECONDS WEST ID BY ROWS" should actually be "...FOUR SECONDS WEST X LAYER TWO".

The coordinates mentioned in the plaintext: 38°57′6.5″N 77°8′44″W (https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Kryptos&params=38_57_6.5_N_77_8_44_W_) are for a point that is approximately 150 feet southeast of the sculpture.

Solution of passage 3

Method : Transposition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher)
SLOWLY DESPARATLY SLOWLY THE REMAINS OF PASSAGE DEBRIS THAT ENCUMBERED THE LOWER PART OF THE DOORWAY WAS REMOVED WITH TREMBLING HANDS I MADE A TINY BREACH IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER AND THEN WIDENING THE HOLE A LITTLE I INSERTED THE CANDLE AND PEERED IN THE HOT AIR ESCAPING FROM THE CHAMBER CAUSED THE FLAME TO FLICKER BUT PRESENTLY DETAILS OF THE ROOM WITHIN EMERGED FROM THE MIST X CAN YOU SEE ANYTHING Q ?

This is a paraphrased quotation from Howard Carter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Carter_%28archaeologist%29)'s account of the opening of the tomb of Tutankhamun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutankhamun) on November 26, 1922, as described in his 1923 book The Tomb of Tutankhamun. The question with which it ends is asked by Lord Carnarvon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Herbert,_5th_Earl_of_Carnarvon), to which Carter (in the book) famously replied "wonderful things". In the November 26, 1922 field notes, however, his reply was, "Yes, it is wonderful.".

Solution of passage 4

Method(s) : Unknown
No solution to Part 4 has been publicly acknowledged by either Mister Sanborn or Mister Scheidt to be correct.

Clues given

When commenting in 2006 about his error in passage 2, Sanborn said that the answers to the first three passages contain clues to the fourth passage. In November 2010, Sanborn released a clue, publicly stating that "NYPVTT", the 64th-69th letters in passage four, become "BERLIN" after decryption.

Sanborn gave The New York Times another clue in November 2014: the letters "MZFPK", the 70th-74th letters in passage four, become "CLOCK" after decryption. The 74th letter is K in both the plaintext and ciphertext, meaning that it is possible for a character to encrypt to itself. This means it does not have a weakness, where a character could never be encrypted as itself, that was known to be inherent in the German Enigma Machine. It is believed that the "BERLINCLOCK" plaintext may be a direct reference to the Berlin Clock.

Sanborn further stated that in order to solve passage 4, "You'd better delve into that particular clock," but added, "There are several really interesting clocks in Berlin."

MonnoM
04-24-17, 07:23 PM
Sabina & Ursula (NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTpFWiEx3eo

Captain Steel
04-24-17, 07:54 PM
Not that I have any opinion one way or another, I want to reply to this because the thought tickled me.

I don't typically hide from ants when they look to the sky. Generally, I don't even empathize with their perspective of awareness. ;)

On a more relatable note, humans look right past other humans every moment of every day without troubling themselves to leave other's view. From the annoying coworker to the homeless guy on the corner asking for a dollar, people just walk on by without another thought. It could be spite or pure inconsiderate dismissal.

If they do exist, I don't know if we're more like the ant or the disruptive coworker. Either way, they probably wouldn't like us ;)


iderno.

Interesting. But it begs a question that could be applied to a lot of paranormal stuff (like my friend Bigfoot)... If they don't want to be seen (and have the capacity not to be seen) then why are they seen at all? But, if they don't care if they're seen, and they are actually here and somewhat plentiful, then why aren't they seen all the time and (now this is crucial) recorded by our seeing devices in an irrefutable and discernable fashion?

gandalf26
04-25-17, 09:32 AM
Battle of Karansebes 1788

100,000 drunken and panicked Austrian soldiers did battle with themselves at night resulting in a rout. The actual enemy The Ottomans arrived 2 days later finding 10,000 dead and easily took the city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes

gandalf26
04-25-17, 09:36 AM
Sabina & Ursula (NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTpFWiEx3eo


I remember that from a few years back, very very bizarre. I would suggest people watch the first few minutes of the video.

Camo
04-25-17, 09:53 AM
Yah, that Sabina and Ursula thing is completely nuts. How the hell do they survive all of that and just the idea of them being normal girls until they met and lost their minds together is chilling. It's amazing that one of those crappy cop shows caught it all as well. Must of been the highest ratings ever for that show haha.

Feel bad for the guy who was killed for no reason too, it's difficult to disagree with the diminished responsibility charge after seeing what happened but it still doesn't feel right that she only served three years.

Dannii
04-25-17, 10:33 AM
I believe in God, i don't believe in psychics though, they play on the vulnerable and tell them what they wanna hear.

MonnoM
05-10-17, 02:06 AM
Carlos Castaneda and the Cleargreen Cult

"In the spring of 1998, shortly after the death of New Age writer and philosopher Carlos Castaneda, five women closely connected with Castaneda and his movement, called “Tensegrity,” vanished from the Los Angeles area. Their names were Florinda Donner-Grau, Taisha Abelar, Amalia Marquez, Kylie Lundahl, and Patricia Lee Partin. Aside from Partin, whose remains were discovered in 2003, all of the women remain missing to this day. The story behind their disappearances is strange, tangled and somewhat disturbing.

Peruvian-born Carlos Castaneda was a graduate student in anthropology at UCLA in the early 1960s when he published a book called The Teachings of Don Juan which purported to detail his apprenticeship with a Yaqui Indian called Don Juan Matus. Supposedly this Don Juan took Castaneda on various spiritual journeys and showed him new ways of knowledge based on Native American mystical traditions. It was all a hoax. Don Juan did not exist, and various investigations proved that Castaneda fabricated many important events in his past.

Castaneda dropped out of sight in 1973 and, while continuing to write, repackaged his philosophy as Tensegrity, which he said was derived from the teachings of (the nonexistent) Don Juan and various Native American philosophies. While pushing the Tensegrity system—it was promoted mainly through workshops—Castaneda amassed a number of female followers who typically changed their names and went into seclusion with him. A number of these women were also apparently his lovers.

On April 27, 1998, Castaneda died of liver cancer in Los Angeles. This began the chain of events that ended with the disappearances of five of his disciples, which I’ll get to each in turn."

read more here. (https://seanmunger.com/2013/08/17/disappeared-the-women-of-tensegrity-missing-15-years/)

ashdoc
05-11-17, 03:54 PM
there is a temple in india situated in a forest on the top of a mountain . it is dedicated to the hindu god shiva . steps have been created to climb the mountain . after climbing some 500 large steps you can reach the temple . here the god is not in his normal form but the idol is that of his penis in union with his wife's vagina .

the idol of the penis of god in union with goddess's vagina was found by a group of hunters in the remote past , and it was found surrounded by venomous cobras . ever since then a temple has been created around the idol and it has acquired legendary status . devotees regularly make the hard climb of hundreds of steps to take blessings of the lord shiva of marleshwar .

the cobras have never left the place and the priests of the temple live among the cobras . devotees pray to god among the cobras .
my female cousin who visited the site few years ago was terrified when she saw the cobras , as no one had warned her about them . but the priests and devotees swear that the cobras never bite either any priest or devotee .

in hindu mythology shiva is always represented surrounded by snakes , and he has been cursed by another god to be never worshipped in his full bodily form but only his penis will be worshipped in union with his wife's ( the goddess parvati ) vagina . the accidental finding of such an idol atop a mountain in a remote forest surrounded by the god's favourite animals ( snakes ) excited the imagination of hindu believers like never before .

what could be the story of the idol ? of course if was crafted by artisans in the remote past and adorned some temple in the plains . but muslim invaders probably threatened to break the idol into pieces during their invasions . some intrepid devotees must have carried the idol for safekeeping atop the high mountain in the forest where the invaders could not penetrate , and here it must have lain forgotten for centuries....but when it was rediscovered centuries later it was surrounded by the lord's favourite animals---cobras . possibly the muslim invaders reached even this place , but the presence of cobras prevented them from trying to destroy the idol .

today the cobras are regarded as the protectors of the idol , and the presence of cobras is considered auspicious in the temple---for it is they who must have protected the idol over the centuries from being desecrated . after a hard climb of over 500 stairs a true believer can attain spiritual nirvana if he or she has the guts to believe the stories of the poisonous snakes being benign to devotees !! as for as myself is concerned , i neither have energy the climb over 500 big stairs to reach the temple nor do i have the daring to risk my life among live cobras .

---ashdoc .

ashdoc
05-12-17, 03:50 PM
my aunt's ( mother's sister ) husband converted at the age of about 35 to a cult called 'agnihotra' cult---literally the cult of fire , for agni means fire . he forces his family to worship fire every day at sunrise and sunset . the fire is created by burning camphor among pieces of cowdung---for cow is holy for hindus and the excreta of cow is considered holy by religious fanatics . the burning of fire is done in a vessel and holy incantations are spoken while doing so . my uncle and his son have drunk cow urine on occasions as they believe the excreta of cow to be holy .

the perpetuater of this cult is a spiritual guru now dead , and needless to say my aunt's husband is a very fanatic devotee of this guru . he will brook no word against this guru . he even convinced his daughter to marry the guru's son . he goes into a terrible rage if anyone tries to tell him anything against the guru .my aunt was opposed to the marriage of her daughter to the guru's son . but the daughter was a convert to the cult and agreed to marry the guru's son . on the eve of the marriage a huge fight erupted between my aunt and her husband over the marriage . but my aunt's opposition was of no avail as the daughter was ready to marry the guru's son .

relations between my family and my aunt's family have nosedived over their devotion to this guru , and we are totally opposed to this madness that they indulge in . to take revenge over our opposition , my aunt's husband wrote a book recently in which he attacked my mom and me over our opposition to the guru and his cult that they are attached to .

now my aunt's daughter has given birth to a son , but she and her husband are not giving him any vaccinations in the belief that the power of the holy fire that they daily ignite will protect the child . so the madness continues....

ashdoc
05-12-17, 04:24 PM
to add to the above---

many westerners have also become followers of this guru , and they fall at the feet of my cousin ( aunt's daughter ) because she has married the guru's son . people from as far as germany and chile are followers . but the guru's own daughter has realised the folly of all this , and has disassociated herself from this cult .

Captain Steel
05-12-17, 11:25 PM
my uncle and his son have drunk cow urine on occasions as they believe the excreta of cow to be holy . .

Yikes! That's... not good. Couldn't they do like the Christians do with their eucharist and drink something else (like lemonade) and just say it's symbolic for cow urine?

he goes into a terrible rage if anyone tries to tell him anything against the guru .

Going into a terrible rage over anything (short of say, an assault on your family's life) is indicative of a problem. Why can't people who fly into rages understand this? The weird thing is if a rager watches someone else fly into a rage over something stupid they're the first to say, "That guy has a serious problem."

MonnoM
05-15-17, 12:55 AM
The Case of Magdalena Zuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBv6Kott8i0
The entire case is full of holes. It's said she was most likely drugged, raped and murdered. That's the current theory. I don't necessarily agree with everything stated in the video, but I do, however, agree that there are inconsistencies. How it all transpired is very bizarre and ultimately tragic.

MonnoM
05-20-17, 07:16 PM
KIC 8462852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852

"KIC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_Input_Catalog) 8462852 (also Tabby's Star or Boyajian's Star) is an F-type main-sequence star (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-type_main-sequence_star) located in the constellation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation) Cygnus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_%28constellation%29). Unusual light fluctuations of the star were discovered by citizen scientists as part of the Planet Hunters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Hunters) project, and in September 2015 astronomers and citizen scientists associated with the project posted a preprint of a paper on arXiv (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv) describing the data and possible interpretations. The discovery was made from data collected by the Kepler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_%28spacecraft%29) space telescope,which observes changes in the brightness of distant stars to detect exoplanets.

Several hypotheses have been proposed to explain the star's large irregular changes in brightness as measured by its unusual light curve, but none to date fully explain all aspects of the curve. The leading hypothesis, based on a lack of observed infrared light, posits a swarm of cold, dusty comet fragments in a highly eccentric orbit. Another hypothesis is that of a large number of small masses in "tight formation" orbiting the star. It has been speculated that the changes in brightness could be signs of activity associated with intelligent extraterrestrial life constructing a Dyson swarm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere#Dyson_swarm). The SETI Institute's initial radio reconnaissance of KIC 8462852, however, found no evidence of technology-related radio signals from the star.

KIC 8462852 is not the only star that has large irregular dimmings. However, all other such stars are young stellar objects called YSO dippers that have different dimming patterns. An example of such an object is EPIC 204278916 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPIC_204278916).

Current events:

As of 19 May 2017, a new dip in luminosity has been detected. Additional observations are being coordinated. The Fairborn Observatory in Arizona notified fellow watchers that the star was 3% dimmer. Several observatories, including the Keck telescopes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._M._Keck_Observatory) and amateur observatories, are watching and taking spectra of the star."

MonnoM
05-26-17, 05:59 PM
The Unsolved case of Henry McCabe
Source 1 (http://www.fox9.com/news/43998157-story)
Source 2 (http://www.startribune.com/drowning-ruled-probable-cause-of-death-in-mccabe-disappearance/352407351/)
Source 3 - Contains the voicemail (http://abcnews.go.com/US/disturbing-voicemail-woman-missing-husbands-phone-hold-clues/story?id=34177863)
Source 4 (http://www.twincities.com/2015/10/06/in-case-of-missing-mounds-view-man-friends-story-questioned/)

"McCabe — a 32-year-old Mounds View resident, married father of two and Minnesota Revenue Department employee — was reported missing Sept. 8.

McCabe’s wife, who was out of state at the time, told police she’d been contacted by one of her husband’s friends, who said McCabe had been at a club in Spring Lake Park on Sunday, Sept. 6, and had been dropped off at a gas station sometime after 2 a.m. Sept. 7 (Labor Day).

The wife also said she received a voicemail from her husband’s phone around 2:23 a.m. Monday, “where he is heard yelling, screaming, and making weird grunting noises,” according to a search warrant affidavit filed in Ramsey County District Court last week.

Police reports indicate at least one other friend was with McCabe and Kennedy at the club that night. Kennedy told police the other friend took McCabe’s wallet in an effort to stop him from buying more drinks because he was “very intoxicated,” the search warrant said.

After they left the club, Kennedy and McCabe reportedly got into Kennedy’s car. Kennedy was going to take him home, but McCabe asked to be dropped off at a Fridley SuperAmerica gas station instead, the search warrant affidavit said.

McCabe’s phone pings from the night he disappeared placed him in Spring Lake Park and Fridley, according to police. The last ping — about the time his wife said she got a call — came from a tower in New Brighton.

Phone records showed McCabe’s phone made three calls after he was last seen. Investigators have requested Kennedy’s phone records to compare where his phone “pinged” (where the phone’s signal bounced off cell towers; those pings are logged by the phone carrier). That information “can help determine where William Kennedy went and find Henry McCabe,” the search warrant said."


Since that article his body has been found (see sources 1&2). What makes this case bizarre is that there were no wounds found on the body. Cause of death is said to be drowning in fresh water. Some people think that he was murdered via waterboarding. I hate the fact that some are turning this into a bigfoot case :rolleyes: or saying the sounds heard in the voicemail were of a "demonic" nature" :rolleyes::rolleyes:. But I'll agree that it's definitely a peculiar case.

Camo
06-08-17, 10:59 PM
Didn't know where to post this; i guess it fits the bizarre part of the thread title. This is an old video so maybe everyone else has seen it but i first did a few days ago. I think it is real, haven't seen any evidence of it not being staged but even if it was there are documented cases of this happening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06X9qXTvKNQ

I find that terrifying. This particular case is actually pretty sad, she just seemed to be a homeless woman who found an opportunity to get shelter and food and took it. If this happened to me i would've been terrified and wanted her out of my home, but i wouldn't have pressed charges and i hope the woman got help from this. She clearly wasn't intending to do harm to the occupants or she would have.

I think i've made it abundantly clear here that i don't believe in ghosts or demons or whatever but intruders are very real and horrifying. My gf's mum told me a really horrifying story recently that happened to her when she was younger where she is leaning towards ghosts, personally i think it was an intruder and the circumstances creep me right out.

MonnoM
06-10-17, 10:56 PM
The Mysterious Case of Chuck Morgan

Case Details:

"On March 22, 1977, in Tucson, Arizona, escrow company owner Chuck Morgan left his home as usual, and then disappeared. Morgan was a potential witness in a state land fraud case involving a known organized crime boss. On March 25, three days later, Chuck stumbled back home at two in the morning. Chuck’s wife, Ruth Morgan, woke up to a thump at the back door:

“I was in bed and the dog started barking. I got up, went to the door and opened it and there was Chuck. He was missing a shoe and had one plastic handcuff around one ankle and a set around his hands. When he motioned to his throat, and didn’t say a word, I asked him, ‘Can you talk? Can you write?’ He shook his head, ‘yes,’ so I went and got a tablet and a pen. He wrote that his throat had been painted with a hallucinogenic drug and that the drug could drive him irrevocably insane or destroy his nervous system and kill him. I wanted to call a doctor and the police, but he was adamant that that would be signing a death warrant for the entire family.”

Over the next week, Ruth nursed her husband back to health. Before his voice returned, he began to hint to her that he had a secret identity as an agent for the federal government: “He wrote, ‘They took my Treasury identification.’ That was the first I’d heard of it. Then he told me he had been working for them for about two or three years. And that was it.”

Was Chuck Morgan really a Treasury agent, secretly fighting organized crime? And who was it that abducted him?

In the 1970’s, the mafia established Arizona as a narcotics pipeline and a haven for money laundering. More than 500 racketeers set up shop there. What made Arizona attractive to crime syndicates was a state law which allowed anyone to buy up land through numbered blind trust accounts. This meant they could launder money and it couldn’t be traced.

Chuck Morgan had done real estate escrow work for at least one mafia family, and possibly helped with the purchase of gold bullion and platinum, a more convenient way to launder money. Journalist Don Devereux investigated.

Chuck's Story:

“He was around the edges of a couple of very large organized crime groups in Arizona at that time. It was very easy to get in over your head, and I suspect that over the years, Mr. Morgan was in that kind of situation. He was doing, perhaps, upwards of a billion dollars of escrow work in bullion and platinum. These were transactions that only existed on paper. He was a straight businessman that probably got a little a too close to the flame.”

Ruth knew little of her husband’s work: “Chuck mentioned to me once that there was money laundering going on, but nothing that he himself was involved in. He told me, ‘The less the girls and you know, the better off you will be.’”

After his kidnapping, Chuck took no chances. He wore a bulletproof vest and made sure he was the only one who drove his daughters to and from school. But two months after his first disappearance, Chuck vanished again. Nine days later, Ruth Morgan received a mysterious phone call. An unidentified woman gave her a reference from the Bible: “This woman said, ‘Ruthie?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ She said, ‘Chuck is all right. Ecclesiastics 12, 1 through 8’. And then she hung up.”

The passage reads, in part: “Men are afraid of a high place and of terrors on the road. Remember him before the silver cord is broken and the golden bowl is crushed. Then the dust will return to the earth as it was and the spirit will return to God who gave it.”

Two days later, Chuck’s body was discovered. He was wearing his bulletproof vest and had died from a single bullet fired at close range into the back of his head. The bullet came from his own .357 magnum, which was lying beside him. The investigators also found a piece of paper with directions to the murder site written in Chuck’s handwriting, and a pair of sunglasses which definitely did not belong to him.

The police made one additional discovery. Chuck had clipped a $2 bill inside his underwear. Written on the bill were seven Spanish names, beginning with the letters A through G. Above them was the notation, “Ecclesiastes 12,” with the verses one through eight marked by arrows drawn on the bill’s serial number. This was the same Bible verse the mysterious female caller had given to Chuck’s wife. On the back of the bill, the signers of the Declaration of Independence were numbered one through seven, and there was a roughly-drawn map. The map led to an area between Tucson and Mexico, to the towns of Robles Junction and Salacity, both known for smuggling.

Despite the unusual evidence, many in the sheriff’s department believed Chuck’s death was a suicide. They claimed he had shot himself in the back of the head."

read more here. (http://unsolved.com/gallery/chuck-morgan/)

MonnoM
06-11-17, 07:06 PM
YOGTZE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YOGTZE_case

"The YOGTZE case refers to the death of unemployed German food engineer Günther Stoll, which occurred on 26 October 1984. It is one of the most mysterious unsolved cases in German criminal history.

Background:

In 1984, Günther Stoll, an unemployed food engineer from Anzhausen was suffering from a moderate case of paranoia. Prior to his death, he occasionally spoke to his wife of "them," unknown people who supposedly intended to harm him. He mentioned "them," specifically, on the evening of 25 October 1984 (at approximately 23:00), before suddenly shouting "Jetzt geht mir ein Licht auf!" ("Now I've got it!"). He then wrote the six letters "YOG'TZE" (it is not conclusive if the third letter was intended to represent a '6' or a 'G') on a sheet of paper before instantly crossing them out.

Shortly thereafter, Stoll went to his favorite pub in Wilnsdorf, where he ordered a beer and fell on the ground, injuring his face. Witnesses stated that he was not under the influence of alcohol and that he suddenly lost consciousness.

He awoke and drove away in his VW Golf I. It is not known what he did in the next two hours. At around 01:00 on 26 October 1984, he went to Haigerseelbach, where he grew up. There, he talked to a woman he knew from his childhood and mentioned a "horrible incident." Since it was so late at night, the woman advised him to go to his parents' place, and talk to them instead. He then left.

Discovery:

At approximately 03:00, two lorry drivers discovered Stoll's crashed vehicle in a trench adjacent to the A45, near the Hagen-Süd exit, 100 kilometres (60 mi) from Haigerseelbach. Both truck drivers testified to having seen an injured person in a white jacket walking near the car. After calling law enforcement, the drivers found the severely injured Günther Stoll naked in his car. He was conscious and mentioned four male persons who had been with him in the car, and had run away. When asked if the men were his friends, Stoll denied it. He died on the way to hospital.

The investigation:

The criminal investigation showed that Stoll was injured before the crash, and must have been hit by a car elsewhere, and subsequently positioned in the passenger's seat of his car and driven to the location where he was discovered. It was also concluded that he was naked at the time he was run over. Other drivers reported seeing a hitchhiker at the Hagen-Süd exit. Neither the hitchhiker nor the person in the white jacket were identified. Suspicions regarding Stoll's holiday trips to the Netherlands, where he was thought to have made contact with drug dealers, proved unfounded.

The meaning of the letters "YOG'TZE" remains unknown, however, some suggest it may be properly read upside-down."

MonnoM
06-16-17, 12:18 AM
The Hunt for a Multiverse...?

Excerpts:

"For many, the multiverse conjures images of worlds where dinosaurs continue to roam, Nazis won World War II, and your evil twin is wreaking havoc somewhere. And yet, the multiverse isn’t just an accepted theory in modern physics, it’s almost unavoidable.

Take the theory of inflation as an example, which says that in the first split second following the Big Bang, the early universe ballooned outward to be at least a million billion billion times larger than it was. Although the theory is beloved by cosmologists (it fixes several problems with the Big Bang story), it comes with a caveat: Most theories of inflation predict eternal inflation. That means that not only did our universe balloon outward, but an infinite number of other universes did, too."

"I think when you use the phrase parallel universe, people imagine some sort of portal into the underworld or some other dimension,” says Matthew Kleban, an astronomer at New York University. Instead, he likes to think of a multiverse as a series of islands.

Take Hawaii, as an example. From Maui, you might not be able to see any other islands beyond the horizon. In fact, you might not even know they exist until an exotic tree — one that clearly doesn’t grow on your island — happens to land on your beach one day. Evidence of a nearby universe would be no different than stumbling upon that tree."

"It sounds wild. But the idea that we live in a multiverse — a cosmos where an infinite number of universes exist beside our own — is no longer confined to science fiction. It’s a respectable theory among scientists, so much so that some are on the hunt for proof of a nearby universe.

Now, scientists might be one step closer. A study (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.03814.pdf) recently submitted to “Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society” actually places the multiverse theory on firmer ground. Ruari Mackenzie, a graduate student at England’s University of Durham, took a deeper look at a region in the sky that’s so frigid and so large that most scientists don’t think it can be a statistical fluke. Instead, some astronomers think this so-called “cold spot” is an optical illusion produced by a lack of intervening galaxies. But Mackenzie and his colleagues found that those galaxies are no less dense than anywhere else in the universe, disproving that theory.

Believe it or not, the next reasonable explanation (so long as you don’t buy into the theory that it’s just a statistical fluke) is that the cold spot might be a bruise left after an ancient collision with another universe. There’s no proof — at least not yet. But a forthcoming map of the cold spot might let scientists nail down whether it is truly a footprint of another universe — a result that would turn our understanding of the universe on its head."

Read full article here (https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/cosmic-bruise-could-be-evidence-multiple-universes-ncna771076)

gandalf26
06-16-17, 06:28 AM
The multiverse sounds like an awesome future holiday destination.

Camo
06-16-17, 07:32 PM
The Multi-verse is a very real and pretty highly respected theory at least now in Quantum Mechanics Theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

It's not really crazy woo stuff anymore, although understandably it was when it was first proposed. The main theorist's reputation is increasing all the time - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Everett_III There's tonnes of examples of people not being fully appreciated in their time and i think he's clearly one whether he's right or wrong, i'd love to see who ours are. The worst thing is that ours are most likely people we aren't aware of because their work has been buried as fluff.

This is the most popular and probably logical theory - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation

FromBeyond
06-16-17, 08:22 PM
When I was about 20 I had been staying in shelters but really wanted to get away from that life so I got all this camping equipment and started sleeping out in the woods, for some weeks I was happy and even felt more healthy, except quite lonely, still I decided I needed to get father away from civilization and more wild, I went to the Library, weighed up different places where I could go and picked on a place, I shan't say where, I went there and got off in a small town and within a few minutes I was out in the middle of nowhere on a country lane, suddenly I noticed it was getting dark, I had to find somewhere to set up, I was dead on my feet, I climbed over a dry walk and walked across a field, it was winter, freezing cold and the grass was like white ice, I found these woods and when I get into it, it was much thicker than I expected and with tree limbs scattered and bush and I don't know what but I was so tired I started kicking it all out the way making a space for my tent, it was really difficult, finally I had a flat space in this dense woods and set my tent up, it was almost dark, I was moving my stuff into the tent... writing this now my skin is prickling all over and there is a tear in my eye... I heard a small child's laughter and running footsteps... coming towards me!, I was literally frozen with fear, I remember feeling like my eyes were going to burst out my head they were so wide, the child ran straight past me, inches from me and away in the same trajectory, it's laughter and footsteps fading away, I was still frozen, I couldn't move and for a few seconds there was silence and I thought it was over

but then it happened again and again again and I was stuck in place, I was afraid to do anything.. after maybe 5 minutes I snapped, I started ramming everything I had in my bag, all I could hear was my own breathing and the sound of my heart beating, I had to block out the sound of the children who were not there or I would stop and then I was walking fast out the woods, I felt afraid to run, then I was out on the ice grass again looking back over my shoulder and then on the country road and back in the small town,, the sound of traffic and people was the best thing I ever heard and I have been too afraid to camp alone ever since.

MonnoM
06-22-17, 02:44 AM
The Baffling Case of Don Kemp
Source 1 (http://unsolved.com/gallery/don-kemp/)
Source 2 (http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/06/the-very-weird-vanishing-and-death-of-don-kemp/)
Source 3 (https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19840413&id=ZOYbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=w2gEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6562,3316813&hl=en)


"The whole strange case revolves around 35-year-old Donald Kemp, also called Don, who was a successful advertising executive on Madison Avenue, in New York City, living the good life before a fateful and debilitating car accident forced him into a lengthy rehabilitation. He found himself reviewing the course of his own life, and according to friends and family, Don became withdrawn and often expressed a deepening contempt for and disillusionment over the materialistic society he had so long been a part of. Whereas he had always been eager to be a player in the materialism-driven lifestyle of an ad exec in New York, he now found himself yearning for something quiet and simpler, and he began to seek to escape the hectic life of the bustling city and all of its possessions and cast off the shell of his old life.

The first thing he did was to quit his advertising job, after which he became increasingly absorbed with, and by some accounts obsessed by, writing a book on the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, that he would toil away on with every bit of free time he had, which considering the absence of his job was a lot. Still, he still often expressed dissatisfaction with being in New York. Perhaps it was because of this unhappiness and his desire to write his book in peace that prompted him to suddenly sell practically all of his worldly possessions and head out for Jackson Hole, Wyoming, way over on the other side of the country. It is known that he made it as far as Cheyenne, where he was reported as wandering about for several hours in a museum while keeping to himself and not talking to anyone, after which he left, forgetting his briefcase in the process, which would later be found to contain important things such as traveler’s checks and his diary. He would never reach Jackson Hole, and this would be the last time anyone reliably saw him alive.

The day after Don’s visit to the museum, on November 16, 1982, at around 10AM, highway patrolman Randy Teeters and his partner came across an abandoned SUV on a desolate rural stretch of highway surrounded by bleak prairies for miles around and with no human habitation in sight. The vehicle’s engine was still idling, its doors were wide open, and various items and clothing were found strewn about on the highway and the frozen winter ground around it. The only sign of the occupant was a single set of footprints that led off into the snow out into the empty prairie. The whole sight was eerie to say the least, and Teeters would say of the surreal scene:

Neither of us had seen anything like this. The vehicle was left forty miles from any town, on an off ramp, running, stuff strung out of it, the doors open, a relatively new vehicle, not one that someone would just leave. I have no idea what would inspire anybody to walk out through that prairie in the middle of winter. We considered possibly someone under medication that didn’t know what they were doing due to the medication, or being out of the medication, possibly that would affect him to the point of where they would just walk out into the middle of nowhere.

Since there was obviously someone potentially in a lot of trouble a search was immediately called for, and aircraft flew over the prairie scouring it for any sign of the driver of the vehicle, and in the meantime a look into the SUV showed that it belonged to none other than Don Kemp. Despite a thorough search of the area by air over flat, open terrain, the missing man could not be found, but there were various signs of him. One was a duffel bag containing items of clothing, soap, and a teapot. Another was an abandoned barn 6 miles off the highway, which held signs that someone had recently been there and had tried to start a fire without success, as well as three discarded socks. Other than that there was nothing. At the time authorities speculated that he had had some sort of mental snap and had wandered off, with Sheriff C. W. Ogburn expressing concern that Kemp was mentally unbalanced, and a deputy Rod Johnson, who had spent hours flying over the prairie looking for him, later saying:

I felt the guy was disorientated, and I felt that he didn’t want to be found. If he would’ve wanted to be found, he would have heard the aircraft, could have waved his arms, got our attention, gone up to a ridge, anywhere, and been sighted.

The search would drag on for the next three days, before a raging blizzard forced it to be called off. In the aftermath of the blizzard, with the absence of any other trace of Don Kemp, it was largely assumed that he had died in the storm. This did not sit well with Don’s mother, Mary Kemp, who adamantly insisted that her son had had no such mental issues and had had no reason to suddenly want to go wandering off into a prairie to leave all of his belongings and diary and notes behind. She refused to believe that he had simply died in the blizzard and was convinced that something terrible had happened to him, that he had been kidnapped or murdered, and that the duffel bag had been put there intentionally to merely make it look as if he had just wandered off. She would express doubt over the official theories by saying:

I was certain he was in a horrible jam. I just felt it, because this was so unlike my son. I knew that he hadn’t walked out there. I feel that he didn’t, and yet the sheriff kept saying that he was out there.

Perhaps she was right, as the case would get more bizarre when 5 months after the vanishing and the blizzard there was a report from someone claiming to have seen Don alive in Casper, Wyoming, around 150 miles away. The witness said that the man had been walking around at a traveling exhibit of Abraham Lincoln memorabilia. Shortly after this there was yet another sighting, this time by a bartender in Casper who was positive that the missing man had recently come into his tavern for a drink. Although these sightings could not be confirmed to have been Don Kemp, more mysterious clues would start to come in as well. At around the same time as these sightings, one of Kemp’s good friends, Judy Aiello, claimed that she had come home one day in April of 1983 to find a series of mysterious messages left on her answering machine that she claimed were from Don. Aiello was convinced that it was the voice of her friend, and that he was still alive. She would say of the strange messages:

I’m absolutely certain that it was his voice. And it was a very brief message, ‘I’d like to speak to you again, call me,” and a phone number. The next day I called, asked to speak to Don. A man answered the phone and said that Don was out. I’m convinced he holds the clue to what really happened to Don.

On another occasion she called this number again and a man answered to at first confirm that he was Don before changing his mind and saying he wasn’t. Since this was all such a promising lead in the case, the sheriff’s department decided to have a look at phone records to see if they could track down where the calls had come from, and it turned out that they had originated in Casper, Wyoming, which was spooky considering this was where the unconfirmed sightings of the missing man had taken place. The calls were further tracked down to an old trailer rented by a Mark Dennis, but the man showed no knowledge of anyone ever making such calls, that he had no knowledge of the calls, and told authorities that they had made a mistake. Even under extended questioning the man remained adamant throughout that he had no idea what they were talking about, and Capt. Mark Benton of the Natrona County Sheriff’s Department would say:

He told us on all occasions, in all interviews, that he had no knowledge of the phone calls and that he had not made the phone calls. I had an occasion to show him a picture of Donald Kemp and he said that he did not know Donald Kemp, had never seen Donald Kemp, and knew nothing of his whereabouts.

Don’s mother was nevertheless suspicious, and convinced that the man in the trailer had had something to do with her son’s disappearance, but when she confronted him about it he would either deny any involvement or simply hang up. Although the police extensively interviewed him, there was no evidence that Kemp had ever been in the trailer, nothing to link him to any sort of crime, no evidence to hold him on, and they eventually dropped him as a suspect, even when he rather suspiciously moved away 3 weeks after being questioned. Sheriff C. W. Ogburn, who had been present in the original search for Kemp, would say of the mysterious man in the trailer:

In all three times that I spoke with him, he was always very cooperative. And I have no reason to feel that the individual here in Casper had any knowledge of this man even being in Wyoming, other than these phone calls, and I don’t have an explanation for it and neither did he.

Oddly, it was found that, based on photographs, Mark Dennis and Don Kemp had had a striking physical resemblance in their high school years, although this is probably just coincidence. Regardless, there were no further calls, no further sightings of Kemp, and the case went cold again, that is until nearly 4 years after his initial vanishing, when some hunters came across his body just a few miles from where his abandoned vehicle had originally been found. Yet although the missing man’s ultimate fate was now known, the discovery would just add further strangeness to the whole mystery. For instance, the body was found out in the open in a place that had already been thoroughly searched, so where did it come from? Also, an official autopsy showed that there were no signs of foul play, so just what was going on here?

Making the whole thing even stranger is information that apparently popped up on the Unsolved Mysteries forum discussing the case by a commenter claiming to be Don’s sister. The commenter claimed that, while the authorities said there had been nothing strange about Kemp’s body, it had in fact been sent to the Smithsonian Institute to be analyzed and that they had found some intriguing things. One was that it was allegedly found that the body had suffered no damage from animals or scavengers, showed no signs of the damage from exposure that it would have incurred if it had been lying out on the prairie for such a long time, and there was not as much decomposition as one would expect either, if he had in fact died at the time of the vanishing. Indeed, the analysis supposedly showed that Kemp had only been dead for around a year. Another anomaly claimed by the commenter was that there was found a small hole bored into Kemp’s skull for unknown purposes. Is any of this true, and if so what significance does it all have? Although Kemp did indeed have a sister, was this commenter really her or not? It is unknown.

So what in the world happened to Don Kemp? The answer to that really depends on who you ask. Authorities more or less still officially think that Kemp froze to death out on that prairie in the blizzard, and that there was no foul play, but this does little to explain the unconfirmed sightings of Kemp in the years after, or the phone calls received by Judy Aiello. Don’s mother still thinks that her son was kidnapped, murdered, and then later dumped back onto the prairie, and that the man from the trailer, Mark Dennis, had had something to do with it. If this were true, though, then why would anyone want him dead?

Oddly, it seems that in the years after his disappearance and subsequent death, some of Don’s belongings were reportedly stolen, most interestingly notes, research, and work he had done on the Lincoln assassination. It also seems that several of the people who had been in possession of some of these documents apparently died under suspicious circumstances, such as a curator of Lincoln memorabilia who purportedly died in a motorcycle crash after receiving some of Kemp’s notes, and another man named Frank Carrington, who died in a mysterious house fire shortly after receiving some of Kemp’s research on Lincoln. It is thought by the more conspiracy-minded that this means that someone did not want Kemp to write his proposed book, perhaps because he had found some revelatory information about Lincoln that someone did not want the world to know about. In this theory, whoever was trying to cover up this information had had Kemp silenced before going about trying to destroy all of his research. Could this be true, and if so was Mark Dennis involved in it? No one knows."


A bit of sensationalism, perhaps? I went with this article because it seems to have all the information compared to unsolved. Though, it's said the information from his supposed sister is just a hoax.

MonnoM
06-28-17, 06:34 PM
16 Psyche
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-is-sending-a-probe-to-this-one-of-a-kind-metal-asteroid

https://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/processed/16-psyche-probe_1024.jpg

"NASA has green-lit a plan to send a probe to a strange metal asteroid called 16 Psyche (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Psyche), which experts think could be the core of an ancient planet, stripped bare of its original surface and outer crust.

16 Psyche, which sits in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, is unlike anything else in our Solar System, and that means it could have plenty to reveal to researchers about how the earliest planets orbiting the Sun formed.

"This is an opportunity to explore a new type of world – not one of rock or ice, but of metal," says Elkins-Tanton. "16 Psyche is the only known object of its kind in the solar system, and this is the only way humans will ever visit a core. We learn about inner space by visiting outer space."

In other words, the mission could help tell us what Earth's core is like, without the need to drill down thousands of kilometres into our own planet.

We've known about 16 Psyche since 1852, but this is the first opportunity where we'll get a close look at it. Measuring more than 200 kilometres (124 miles) in diameter, indications are that it's mostly made up of iron and nickel.

Scientists think 16 Psyche could've once been a planet the size of Mars, but that a series of violent collisions with other objects in the Solar System whittled it down to just its core.

What's more, it could've been around in the very earliest days of the Solar System, just 10 million years after the birth of the Sun, and so could hold clues about how the planets evolved and formed their layers more than four billion years ago.

After zooming past Mars, the uncrewed Psyche probe should reach the metal asteroid that it shares a name with by 2030. From there it will spend 20 months in orbit, taking snaps of 16 Psyche, and measuring its composition, plus the strength and gravity of its magnetic field.

Part of what makes the Psyche mission so exciting is that we know so little about the asteroid right now. Just last year, observations from the NASA Infrared Telescope suggested that water or hydroxyl could be present on the surface of 16 Psyche, something the probe should be able to confirm."

MonnoM
07-28-17, 10:42 PM
The Disappearance of Ronald Tammen
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tammen_ronald.html


"Tammen was last seen in old Fisher Hall, a former Victorian mental asylum converted to a dormitory at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio on April 19, 1953. He was a resident hall advisor at Fisher Hall, and lived in room 225. At 8:00 p.m., he requested new bedsheets because someone had put a dead fish in his bed.

Sometime around 8:30 p.m., Tammen apparently heard something outside his room that disturbed him, and went out into the hallway to investigate. He never returned. His roommate came in at 10:00 p.m. and found him gone. The roommate originally assumed Tammen was spending the night at his Delta Tau Delta fraternity house, and did not report his disappearance until the next day.

There is no indication that Tammen left of his own accord. His clothes, car keys, wallet, identification, watch, high school class ring and other personal items were left behind in his dormitory room, and he also left the lights on, the radio playing, and a psychology textbook lying open on his desk. His gold 1938 Chevrolet sedan was not taken from its place in the school parking lot, he left his bass fiddle in the back seat of the car, and he left behind $200 in his bank account. Tammen is believed to have had no more than $10 to $15 on his person the night he disappeared, and was not wearing a coat. However, authorities have not found any indication of foul play in Tammen's disappearance either. They do not believe he could have been forcibly abducted, as he was large enough and strong enough to defend himself against most attackers. They theorize that he could have developed amnesia and wandered away, but if that was the case he should have been found relatively quickly.

A woman living outside of Oxford, twelve miles east of the Miami University campus, claims that a young man came to her door at 11:00 p.m. the evening Tammen disappeared and asked what town he was in. Then he asked directions to the bus stop, which she gave him, and he left. However, the bus line had suspended its midnight run, so he could not have gotten on a bus. The witness says the man she spoke to was disheveled and dirty and appeared upset and confused. He was not wearing a coat or hat, although it was a cold night and there was snow on the ground. He was apparently on foot, since the woman did not see or hear a car. The man matched the physical description of Tammen and was wearing similar clothes, but it has not been confirmed that they were the same person, and Tammen's brother stated he did not believe the man the witness saw was Tammen.

Five months to the day before Tammen vanished, he went to the Butler County Coroner's office in Hamilton, Ohio and asked for a test to have his blood typed. The coroner claims that this was the only such request he ever got in 35 years of practice. It is unknown why Tammen wanted the test done and why he did not have it conducted in Oxford, where local physicians or the university hospital could have typed his blood for him. Tammen was scheduled for a physical examination by the Selective Service for induction into the army, but inductees did not need to know their blood type in advance of the physical.

Tammen's parents, who lived in the 21000 block of Hillgrove Avenue in Maple Heights, Ohio in 1953, last saw him a week before he disappeared and say he did not appear to be troubled by anything at the time. He was on the varsity wrestling team in college, played in the school dance band, and was a business major and a good student. He dated at the time that he vanished but did not have a steady girlfriend.

In the decades after Tammen's disappearance, students at Miami University claimed his ghost haunted Fisher Hall. His parents are now deceased. Fisher Hall was torn down in 1978 and an extensive search was conducted in the rubble for Tammen's remains, but no evidence was located. His case remains unsolved."

MonnoM
08-01-17, 12:58 AM
The Accidental Creation of An Invisible Wall?

"David Swenson of 3M Corporation describes an anomaly where workers encountered a strange "invisible wall" in the area under a fast-moving sheet of electrically charged polypropelene film in a factory. This "invisible wall" was strong enough to prevent humans from passing through. A person near this "wall" was unable to turn, and so had to walk backwards to retreat from it.

This occurred in late summer in South Carolina, August 1980, in extremely high humidity. Polypropelene (PP) film on 50K ft. rolls 20ft wide was being slit and transferred to multiple smaller spools. The film was taken off the main roll at high speed, flowed upwards 20ft to overhead rollers, passed horizontally 20ft and then downwards to the slitting device, where it was spooled onto shorter rolls. The whole operation formed a cubical shaped tent, with two walls and a ceiling approximately 20ft square. The spools ran at 1000ft/min, or about 10MPH. The PP film had been manufactured with dissimilar surface structure on opposing faces. Contact electrification can occur even in similar materials if the surface textures or micro-structures are significantly different. The generation of a large imbalance of electrical surface-charge during unspooling was therefore not unexpected, and is a common problem in this industry. "Static cling" in the megavolt range!

On entering the factory floor and far from the equipment, Mr. Swenson's 200KV/ft handheld electrometer was found to slam to full scale. When he attempted to walk through the corridor formed by the moving film, he was stopped about half way through by an "invisible wall." He could lean all his weight forward but was unable to pass. He observed a fly get pulled into the charged, moving plastic, and speculates that the e-fields might have been strong enough to suck in birds!

The production manager did not believe Mr. Swenson's report of the strange phenomena. When they both returned to the factory floor, they found that the "wall" was no longer there. But the production workers had noticed the effect as occurring early in the morning when humidity was lower, so they agreed to try again another day. The second attempt was successful, and early in the morning the field underneath the "tent" was strong enough to raise even the short, curly hair of the production manager. The "invisible wall" effect had returned. He commented that he "didn't know whether to fix it or sell tickets." - Read more here (http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html)


Video of Static Electricity generated from a Poly film roll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL3mnidBkeQ

MonnoM
08-21-17, 11:15 PM
Sonic Attacks in Cuba

"A higher number of US and Canadian diplomats and their families are believed to have been attacked by a mystery sonic weapon (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/us-cuba-acoustic-attack-embassy/index.html) in Havana than was initially reported, CNN has learned from two senior US government officials.

More than 10 US diplomats and family members received treatment after the months of harassing attacks, which began in mid-November 2016 and stopped this spring, said the US officials, who did not want to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the attacks and ongoing investigation.

Two US diplomats who were treated in the United States suffered long-term injuries including hearing loss as a result of the attacks and were unable to return to Cuba, three US government sources told CNN. Additional diplomats opted to leave their assignments in Cuba early, as a result of the harassment, the two US government officials told CNN.

In June, five Canadian diplomats and family members reported experiencing symptoms consistent with the attacks, the US government officials told CNN, which would mean further attacks were carried out at the same time Cuban officials were investigating the incidents.

"We are aware of unusual symptoms affecting Canadian and US diplomatic personnel and their families in Havana," Canadian spokesperson Brianne Maxwell said in a statement earlier in August when it was first revealed that Canadian diplomats had also been attacked. "The government is actively working -- including with US and Cuban authorities -- to ascertain the cause."

In some of the attacks a sophisticated sonic weapon that operated outside the range of audible sound was deployed either inside or outside the residences of US diplomats living in Havana, according to three US officials.

The weapon caused immediate physical sensations including nausea, headaches and hearing loss.

Other attacks made a deafeningly loud sound similar to the buzzing created by insects or metal scraping across a floor, but the source of the sound could not be identified, the two US officials said.

Some of the diplomats were attacked by the mystery weapon late at night in their homes while they were asleep, the officials said." - Read more here (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/20/politics/havana-sonic-attacks/index.html).

MonnoM
09-22-17, 03:27 PM
Message warning of the Apocalypse in California?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/22/tv-programs-in-california-interrupted-with-end-world-prediction.html

"Television broadcasts in Southern California were interrupted late Thursday morning with an end-of-the-world prediction, startling viewers and setting off a firestorm on social media.

Erin Mireles told the Orange County Register that she was watching Bravo on Spectrum when the alert appeared.

“I was definitely startled, ’cause the volume increased exponentially,” she said. “I wasn’t alarmed in the sense of thinking something was wrong, ’cause I assumed it was some sort of hack,” she said.

A man’s voice could reportedly be heard saying: “Realize this, extremely violent times will come.”

One person said the voice sounded like Hitler.

A spokesman for Cox Communications told the paper that the problem occurred because one or more radio stations conducted an emergency test.

“With these tests, an emergency tone is sent out to initiate the test,” Joe Camero told the paper. “After the tone is transmitted, another tone is sent to end the message. It appears that the radio station (or stations) did not transmit the end tone to complete the test.”

The report said it was unclear if the alert had anything to do with the Christian numerologist who recently claimed the world will end Saturday when a planet will, supposedly, collide with Earth.

According to Christian numerologist David Meade, verses in Luke 21:25 to 26 signify that recent events, such as the recent solar eclipse and Hurricane Harvey, portend the apocalypse.

The verses read:

“25: There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

"'26: Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.'

Saturday's date, Sept. 23 was pinpointed using codes from the Bible, as well as a "date marker" in the pyramids of Giza in Egypt."


A crafty, determined bunch. Well played, doomsdayers, well played.



See you Sunday! :D

MonnoM
01-15-18, 06:09 PM
Mysterious dig in Turkey?
https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/11/06/mystery-dig-in-southern-turkey-ends-without-explanation

"A mysterious excavation in a house in the southern town of Tarsus ended Friday, a year after it started. Still, authorities, who were tight-lipped during the course of the dig guarded by elite police units, did not issue a statement, to the chagrin of conspiracy theory pundits.

The dig has been rife with speculation and provided fodder for conspiracy theories as police installed tall tarpaulin fences around the site to prevent even a peek by curious bystanders and denied access even to a lawmaker who tried to enter the site five times.

With no official explanations, everyone offered a theory on what might be underneath the house, from an ancient treasure to a lost Bible and even the remains of extraterrestrial beings. The most plausible theory was an underground city discovered in this town whose history dates back to the Roman Empire.

Police officers with automatic rifles left the site on Friday and fences were removed, only to reveal soil covering the holes dug by workers. Plainclothes policemen on the street left later.

Media outlets reported that workers dug as deep as 15 meters before the underground water made it impossible to dig further."

Bht88
01-28-18, 10:26 PM
I wouldn't call things that haven't been proven / fully explained "paranormal or supernatural"
EVERYTHING that EXISTS is normal people just like to slap a label on things...
if it exists then its normal if it doesn't then it just DOESNT exist
it doesn't matter if you believe in anything or not,if it exists then it exists...


I certainly DO NOT credit or dis-credit : ghosts,aliens(friendly or hostile *same with ghosts),
ESP,alien abductions,out of body expierences,NEAR death expierences,being in suspended
animation,ENTERING heaven / hell ALIVE,deities,UFOS,other dimensions,etc


do your own homework about everything,check out things for yourself,
dont just take a persons word for things,there are stuff YOU need to see for yourself


why is there TONS of people ALL OVER the world sharing stories about EVERYTHING I listed ?
and through out history ? people like this put themselves at risk at : being laughed at,
called "crazy" , "drunk" or "on drugs / high" the brave speak out and are often
"reported" to be "missing" / or silenced


why do these people take these risks when coming forward about things like this ?
it doesn't make sense ... but there are those who invent stories to gain attention & money,etc


the truth already is /,has been for centuries (wutever it may be)


if an apple falls off a tree,but no one is around to see/hear it
did the apple fall ? did it make a sound?

Captain Steel
01-28-18, 11:00 PM
I've written before about all the "rules" ghosts allegedly follow - we have this set of concepts about "ghosts" based on a standard issue of attributes they supposedly follow. So where did everything we think we know about ghosts come from? From 19th century con-men and women who engaged in the fad of "spiritualism" and posed as mediums and psychics in order to bilk the grieving & gullible.
Just remember this next time you see some jerk walking around with green night vision cameras on your TV going "did you hear that?"

Now let's get down to talking about something real... Bigfoot! ;)

Swan
01-28-18, 11:05 PM
Mysterious dig in Turkey?
https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/11/06/mystery-dig-in-southern-turkey-ends-without-explanation

"A mysterious excavation in a house in the southern town of Tarsus ended Friday, a year after it started. Still, authorities, who were tight-lipped during the course of the dig guarded by elite police units, did not issue a statement, to the chagrin of conspiracy theory pundits.

The dig has been rife with speculation and provided fodder for conspiracy theories as police installed tall tarpaulin fences around the site to prevent even a peek by curious bystanders and denied access even to a lawmaker who tried to enter the site five times.

With no official explanations, everyone offered a theory on what might be underneath the house, from an ancient treasure to a lost Bible and even the remains of extraterrestrial beings. The most plausible theory was an underground city discovered in this town whose history dates back to the Roman Empire.

Police officers with automatic rifles left the site on Friday and fences were removed, only to reveal soil covering the holes dug by workers. Plainclothes policemen on the street left later.

Media outlets reported that workers dug as deep as 15 meters before the underground water made it impossible to dig further."


I don't mean to rag on you guys but I love how the "theories" are the most stereotypical answers given by people into this stuff.

Lost bible treasures and aliens. It's always lost bible treasures and aliens. :p

Camo
01-28-18, 11:07 PM
The amount of stories about ghosts and aliens and whatever are more indicative of them not existing if anything since there's zero hard proof despite there being so many incidents over such a long time.

Captain Steel
01-28-18, 11:09 PM
if an apple falls off a tree,but no one is around to see/hear it
did the apple fall ? did it make a sound?

I always like answering this question. No, it didn't make a sound. Sound is subjective. Sound only exists in the presence of a receiver. The apple made a vibration (we know this from physics), but if there was nothing there for the vibration to reverberate off of (such as an animal's eardrum, connected to a brain that can process and discern sound), then no "sound" occurred.

As far as if the apple fell - we know that apples eventually all fall under normal / general circumstances (as the stem weakens through it's growth cycle to the point where gravity pulls it to the ground), so if it's on the ground, it fell or had it's falling hastened by an animal, or was carried down from the tree by an animal.

Captain Steel
01-28-18, 11:23 PM
I don't mean to rag on you guys but I love how the "theories" are the most stereotypical answers given by people into this stuff.

Lost bible treasures and aliens. It's always lost bible treasures and aliens. :p

Lost bible treasures are obviously ludicrous since everyone knows none of that stuff ever happened in the first place, by why are you dissin' on aliens?

:p

MonnoM
01-28-18, 11:25 PM
I don't mean to rag on you guys but I love how the "theories" are the most stereotypical answers given by people into this stuff.

Lost bible treasures and aliens. It's always lost bible treasures and aliens. :p

When wikileaks comes out with documents proving it was baby Jesus' pacifier or an Alien's gaming system, you're gonna feel really stupid, Swan.

Camo
01-28-18, 11:27 PM
The amount of stories about ghosts and aliens and whatever are more indicative of them not existing if anything since there's zero hard proof despite there being so many incidents over such a long time.

Should point out i believe Aliens most likely do exist i just don't believe they've visited earth. They could be anything, lesser beings than us or superior beings, there could be both. Maybe we can't comprehend them or their environment and if we came across them it'd be like the trippy scenes from 2001 :D

Swan
01-28-18, 11:29 PM
When wikileaks comes out with documents proving it was baby Jesus' pacifier or an Alien's gaming system, you're gonna feel really stupid, Swan.

WAIT

WHAT IF IT'S AN ALIEN GAMING SYSTEM ABOUT JESUS' PACIFIER

HOLY EFF OMG

MONNOM WE CRACKED THE CODE

MonnoM
01-28-18, 11:33 PM
I like the mere speculation of it all. It's fun to theorize and wonder what if. Skepticism is a necessary part of life, but too much of it can make it a real bummer.

Captain Steel
01-28-18, 11:34 PM
Should point out i believe Aliens most likely do exist i just don't believe they've visited earth. They could be anything, lesser beings than us or superior beings, there could be both. Maybe we can't comprehend them or their environment and if we came across them it'd be like the trippy scenes from 2001 :D

I agree this is most likely.

One thing I heard recently (probably on Coast to Coast) which was a bit reassuring was a simple question - if aliens came to earth from another star system (which would require technology so advanced that it solved issues of far faster-than-light transportation), why would they need to anally probe someone? If they have technology that exceeds all conceivable space/time or even dimensional limitations, wouldn't they just have a machine that could look inside someone without having to put a painful probe up their anus?

Swan
01-28-18, 11:34 PM
I like the mere speculation of it all. It's fun to theorize and wonder what if. Skepticism is a necessary part of life, but too much of it can make it a real bummer.

Nah like I said I wasn't trying to rag. I was really into this stuff when I was a kid and get the appeal, just grew into a Skeptical Sourpuss who says "hokum" a lot. :p

Camo
01-28-18, 11:37 PM
I like discussing and thinking about all this stuff too. Ghost stories can still creep me out even though i don't believe in them at all, i made a massive post about a ghost story my gf's mum told me that creeped me right out, turns out it was a well known story as i found a short film on youtube with the exact same story :laugh: I'm just not holding my breath for any of this stuff to be proven.

MonnoM
04-29-18, 01:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxs3A0y47c

These are all mind-boggling, but that first clip is way up there on the crazy scale. Especially considering the jogger came back around and just ran past her while she was being helped by others.

The John Lang case is disturbing, to say the least.

MonnoM
05-06-18, 02:55 AM
Encephalitis lethargica (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis_lethargica)

"Encephalitis lethargica is an atypical form of encephalitis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis). Also known as "sleeping sickness" or "sleepy sickness" (distinct from tsetse fly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsetse_fly)-transmitted sleeping sickness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_trypanosomiasis)), it was first described in 1917 by the neurologist Constantin von Economo and the pathologist Jean-René Cruchet.

The disease attacks the brain, leaving some victims in a statue-like condition, speechless and motionless. Between 1915 and 1926, an epidemic of encephalitis lethargica spread around the world. Nearly five million people were affected, a third of whom died in the acute stages. Many of those who survived never returned to their pre-existing "aliveness".

They would be conscious and aware – yet not fully awake; they would sit motionless and speechless all day in their chairs, totally lacking energy, impetus, initiative, motive, appetite, affect or desire; they registered what went on about them without active attention, and with profound indifference. They neither conveyed nor felt the feeling of life; they were as insubstantial as ghosts, and as passive as zombies.

No recurrence of the epidemic has since been reported, though isolated cases continue to occur.

Cause:


The causes of encephalitis lethargica (EL) are uncertain.


Veins of modern research have explored its origins in an autoimmune response, and, separately or in relation to an immune response, links to pathologies of infectious disease (viral and bacterial, e.g., in the case of influenza, where a link with encephalitis is clear). Postencephalic Parkinsonism was clearly documented to have followed an outbreak of EL following 1918 influenza pandemic; evidence for viral causation of the Parkinson's symptoms is circumstantial (epidemiologic, and finding influenza antigens in EL patients), while evidence arguing against this cause is of the negative sort (e.g., lack of viral RNA in postencephalic parkinsonian brain material). In reviewing the relationship between influenza and EL, McCall and coworkers conclude, as of 2008, that while "the case against influenza [is] less decisive than currently perceived… there is little direct evidence supporting influenza in the etiology of EL," and that "[a]lmost 100 years after the EL epidemic, its etiology remains enigmatic." Hence, while opinions on the relationship of EL to influenza remain divided, the preponderance of literature appears skeptical.

In 2010, in a substantial Oxford University Press compendium reviewing the historic and contemporary views on EL, its editor, Joel VIlensky of the Indiana University School of Medicine, quotes Pool, writing in 1930, who states, "we must confess that etiology is still obscure, the causative agent still unknown, the pathological riddle still unsolved…", and goes on to offer the following conclusion, as of that publication date: Does the present volume solve the "riddle" of EL, which… has been referred to as the greatest medical mystery of the 20th century? Unfortunately, no: but inroads are certainly made here pertaining to diagnosis, pathology, and even treatment."
Subsequent to publication of this compendium, an enterovirus was discovered in EL cases from the epidemic.

Diplococcus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplococcus) has been implicated as a cause of EL."

d_chatterley
05-06-18, 03:27 AM
The John Lang case is disturbing, to say the least.

That sent shivers down my spine especially the special camera in the black van. WTF??

I. Rex
05-06-18, 10:35 AM
KIC 8462852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852

"KIC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_Input_Catalog) 8462852 (also Tabby's Star or Boyajian's Star) is an F-type main-sequence star (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-type_main-sequence_star) located in the constellation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation) Cygnus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_%28constellation%29). Unusual light fluctuations of the star were discovered by citizen scientists as part of the Planet Hunters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Hunters) project, and in September 2015 astronomers and citizen scientists associated with the project posted a preprint of a paper on arXiv (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv) describing the data and possible interpretations. The discovery was made from data collected by the Kepler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_%28spacecraft%29) space telescope,which observes changes in the brightness of distant stars to detect exoplanets.

Several hypotheses have been proposed to explain the star's large irregular changes in brightness as measured by its unusual light curve, but none to date fully explain all aspects of the curve. The leading hypothesis, based on a lack of observed infrared light, posits a swarm of cold, dusty comet fragments in a highly eccentric orbit. Another hypothesis is that of a large number of small masses in "tight formation" orbiting the star. It has been speculated that the changes in brightness could be signs of activity associated with intelligent extraterrestrial life constructing a Dyson swarm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere#Dyson_swarm). The SETI Institute's initial radio reconnaissance of KIC 8462852, however, found no evidence of technology-related radio signals from the star.

KIC 8462852 is not the only star that has large irregular dimmings. However, all other such stars are young stellar objects called YSO dippers that have different dimming patterns. An example of such an object is EPIC 204278916 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPIC_204278916).

Current events:

As of 19 May 2017, a new dip in luminosity has been detected. Additional observations are being coordinated. The Fairborn Observatory in Arizona notified fellow watchers that the star was 3% dimmer. Several observatories, including the Keck telescopes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._M._Keck_Observatory) and amateur observatories, are watching and taking spectra of the star."



Since you posted this they have largely written this off as an example of a "circumstellar dust ring" or an uneven band of dust orbiting the star that happens to be positioned in a way that observing the star from our point in space would cause these effects (and it explains the infrared/UV puzzle). But I still dont fully buy it... Still holding out for an ancient Dyson Swarm because how awesome would that be. :p

And anyway, that still doesnt explain the long term gradual dimming trend of the star.

I will note though that even though the KIC star case has been the darling of the alien speculator folks since Boyajian discovered it, there are actually better examples of really strange phenomenon that we have a hard time explaining with any natural explanation. For example, Przybylski's Star which is filled with an impossible amount of heavy exotic metals like strontium, caesium, thorium, and uranium which we have NEVER observed in such quantities in stellar masses before. It even contains many different short lived actinide elements like berkelium, californium and einsteinium which simply dont ever occur in nature! Yet the star contains barely any iron at all. Completely baffling. What the heck is going on there? Is this an example of a sun used as a dumping ground for radioactive and unstable elements by an alien civilization? If not, what explains the completely unnatural elemental signature of the star itself?

Also the impossible geologically instant vanishing of stellar system mass at star TYC 8241 2652. Trillions of tons of matter just cant disappear overnight like it did here unless something or someone is actively (and quickly!) making it go away. To give it some perspective, its as if we woke up one day to find the asteroid belt completely gone. Definitely not a natural phenomenon at all...

MonnoM
08-05-18, 10:19 PM
Danny Casolaro & The Octopus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Casolaro
The article is a long one, so I only added the first portion. But it's a very fascinating case and I recommend you visit the wiki page and read it in its entirety.


"Joseph Daniel Casolaro (June 16, 1947 – August 10, 1991) was an American freelance writer who came to public attention in 1991 when he was found dead in a bathtub in room 517 of the Sheraton Hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, his wrists slashed 10–12 times. The medical examiner ruled the death a suicide.

His death became controversial because his notes suggested he was in Martinsburg to meet a source about a story he called "the Octopus." This centered on a sprawling collaboration involving an international cabal, and primarily featuring a number of stories familiar to journalists who worked in and around Washington, D.C. in the 1980s—the Inslaw case, about a software manufacturer whose owner accused the Justice Department of stealing its work product; the October Surprise theory that during the Iran hostage crisis, Iran deliberately held back American hostages to help Ronald Reagan win the 1980 presidential election, the collapse of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, and Iran–Contra.

Casolaro's family argued that he had been murdered; that before he left for Martinsburg, he had apparently told his brother that he had been frequently receiving harassing phone calls late at night; that some of them were threatening; and that if something were to happen to him while in Martinsburg, it would not be an accident. They also cited his well-known squeamishness and fear of blood tests, and stated they found it incomprehensible that if he were going to commit suicide, he would do so by cutting his wrists a dozen times. A number of law-enforcement officials also argued that his death deserved further scrutiny, and his notes were passed by his family to ABC News and Time Magazine, both of which investigated the case, but no evidence of murder was ever found."

MonnoM
08-06-18, 03:25 AM
'Oumuamua
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOumuamua
https://www.space.com/41015-interstellar-visitor-oumuamua-comet-after-all.html

'Oumuamua is the first Interstellar object to reach our solar system. Though it has since been classified as a comet, its origin is unknown.

"This cosmic object was first discovered in 2017 by researchers with the Panoramic Survey Telescope Rapid Response System (Pan-STARRS). Its strange, cigar-like shape, its lack of both a tail and a coma, has made it difficult to categorize — some even suggested it could hold extraterrestrial life. It has so far been classified as a comet, classified as an asteroid, and even put into a new "interstellar objects" class.

'Oumuamua, since its discovery, has been very difficult for researchers to study and understand because, since "this was actually a faint object … we had very little time to observe it," Karen Meech, an astronomer at the University of Hawaii and co-author on the new work, told Space.com. But now, in a paper published today (June 27) in the journal Nature, researchers seem to have concluded that the mysterious interstellar body is a comet. Scientists still don't know where the dark-red, 2,624-foot-long (800 meter) object came from, but at least part of the mystery has now been put to rest.

Tumbling through our solar system, (https://www.space.com/39767-first-interstellar-visitor-oumuamua-tumbling.html) 'Oumuamua's movement and behavior along this journey has led researchers to their conclusion. They found that the arc that 'Oumuamua traveled along can't be entirely explained by the gravitational pull of the sun, planets and other solar system objects. So, as the researchers explained in the new paper, part of the object's acceleration isn't caused by gravity.

Classifying the object as a comet explains its arcing movement and nongravitational acceleration, as comets can be propelled by gas they release.

There are other possible explanations for this acceleration, like magnetic interaction with the solar wind, pressure from solar radiation, and forces of drag and friction. But the researchers ruled these out.

This leaves the remaining explanation that 'Oumuamua is propelled partially by gas, which would indicate that it is a comet.

Meech said that this study "conclusively ends" the mystery of what this object really is, while adding that "there's never a hundred percent guarantee on anything."

These researchers are "inferring that it is a comet based on all available evidence, but there is no other explanation," Meech said. She added that, if they wanted concrete proof that it is a comet, they would have needed to see "a tail of dust and gas, but that just wasn't possible in this case."

Still, 'Oumuamua is anything but a standard comet. It lacks a coma, which is the cloud of gas and dust that usually envelops a comet's core, and researchers didn't observe a classic comet tail. The object also has a noticeably unique appearance. So, with the knowledge that they have, the researchers found that 'Oumuamua must be a comet.

The main remaining mystery about 'Oumuamua is its origin. Researchers still don't know where the object came from and, according to Meech, knowing that the object has nongravitational motion will make it even more difficult to figure out its source."

MonnoM
08-15-18, 07:05 PM
Blair Adams
http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Blair_Adams
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Blair_Adams

"Blair Adams was a thirty-one-year-old Canadian resident who was found dead in the parking lot of a Knoxville, Tennessee hotel on July 11, 1996. Scattered around his body was nearly $4000 worth of mixed Canadian, American, and German currency. His death was later discovered to be caused by a blow to the stomach. His friends and family would like to know the events that resulted in his death.

Authorities found that in the days before Blair's death, he acted very strange, claiming that people were trying to kill him, and traveled thousands of miles before arriving in Knoxville. First, according to his family, he began suffering from mood swings. He also started having trouble sleeping. When his mother asked what was wrong, he said that he couldn't tell her about "it". On July 5, 1996, he took all the money out of his savings account, along with thousands of dollars in jewelry, gold, and platinum. On July 7, he went to the Canadian-American border, but was denied crossing because he was a single man with a large amount of money, which fit the profile of a drug trafficker.

The next day, Blair arrived at his work, a construction company in Surrey, British Columbia, and quit. That afternoon, he spent $1600 on a round-trip airline ticket from Vancouver to Frankfurt, Germany. His flight would leave the following day. However, just hours after buying the ticket, he went to a friend's house. He said that he needed to get across the border because somebody was trying to kill him. His friend said that she was unable to help. Then, the next day, July 9, he turned in his ticket, rented a car, was able to cross the border, and went to Seattle.

Blair left his rental car at the airport. He then bought a one-way ticket to Washington, DC. This was strange to investigators because it cost twice as much as a round-trip one. After arriving in Washington, DC on July 10, he rented a white Toyota and went to Knoxville. This was also strange because he did not know anyone in the area.

Blair arrived at a gas station at 5:30pm and told the attendant that his rental car wouldn't start. The attendant told him that he had the wrong keys, so he was stranded in Knoxville. A mechanic took him to a hotel and made a lasting impression on the manager. He acted nervous, walking in and out of the lobby a total of five times before getting a room. Afterwards, he went out of the hotel and was never seen alive again.

Twelve hours later, Blair's body, which was naked from the waist down, was found in a parking lot about a half mile from the hotel. There were several strange clues at the scene. His pants had been removed in a pulling motion and were turned inside out. His socks were too. His shoes were off and his shirt was ripped open. Along with the $4000 in various currencies strewn around his body, there was also a fanny pack filled with jewelry, gold, and platinum next to him. Perhaps the most strange clue at the scene was the key to his rental car, which he had apparently lost hours earlier.

The cause of death was a violent blow to Blair's stomach. The weapon, possibly a club or a crowbar, also sliced open his forehead. He did put up a fight; his attacker ripped locks of hair from his head and he had defensive wounds on his hands. Investigators recovered one long strand of hair from his hand, believed to have belonged to the killer. Certain injures also seemed to indicate that he was sexually assaulted. Blair's odyssey had come to a violent end, and although authorities believe that the danger he thought he was in was imaginary, he was murdered, just as he had feared. To this day this mysterious case remains unsolved, but his family hopes that one day someone will be able to tell them the circumstances of his death.

Blair was killed on July 11, 1996, near Interstate 40 in Knoxville. Authorities believe the fatal attack occurred at around 3:30am; a construction worker claimed to have heard a scream coming from the parking lot at that time. Interestingly, he believed that it was a woman's voice."

Rey Skywalker
08-18-18, 03:59 PM
Dyatlov Pass incident fascinates me so much. Do you guys have any theories about it?

Camo
08-18-18, 04:04 PM
Dyatlov Pass incident fascinates me so much. Do you guys have any theories about it?

Haven't read about it in a while so i can't back this up but i was convinced that it was a deep state of hypothermia to the point that they felt hot rather than cold which is why they were naked, and also that they were violently hallucinating due to it which explains the injuries. I'm sure there was more to it than that, can't remember now. Don't think it was aliens or whatever anyway.

Been watching Buzzfeed Unsolved. Not a fan of Buzzfeed generally but i think the hosts are pretty funny and even though it's mostly cases i'm aware of it's fun to watch them go over the theories. One i hadn't heard of was this (creepy as hell):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDeFSOUHdH4

Anyone got any other good True Crime/Mystery Youtube Channel suggestions? Almost watched all of their episodes.

Rey Skywalker
08-18-18, 04:18 PM
I am hooked on the buzzfeed unsolved videos as well. Sometimes I am yelling at the screen because it is so obvious who did it but the police just do nothing! Like the Keddie cabin murders. Seriously if you can't solve a murder that happened in a village of 60 people... :rolleyes:

MonnoM
08-18-18, 04:21 PM
Dyatlov Pass incident fascinates me so much. Do you guys have any theories about it?


I agree, it's a fascinating case. There are several theories. The big ones being what Camo mentioned, to radiation poisoning.

MonnoM
08-19-18, 03:27 AM
Russia's Mysterious Satellite
https://www.space.com/41503-russian-satellite-possible-space-weapon.html


"A Russian satellite that launched to Earth orbit last October has been behaving oddly, raising the possibility that the craft could be some sort of space weapon, a U.S. diplomat warned.

Russia has described the satellite in question as a "space apparatus inspector," Yleem Poblete, assistant secretary for arms control, verification and compliance at the U.S. State Department, said at a conference on disarmament in Geneva yesterday (Aug. 14).

"But its behavior on orbit was inconsistent with anything seen before from on-orbit inspection or space situational-awareness capabilities, including other Russian inspection-satellite activities. We are concerned with what appears to be very abnormal behavior by a declared 'space apparatus inspector,'' Poblete said.

"We don't know for certain what it is, and there is no way to verify it," she added. "But Russian intentions with respect to this satellite are unclear and are obviously a very troubling development — particularly when considered in concert with statements by Russia’s Space Force commander, who highlighted that 'assimilate[ing] new prototypes of weapons [into] Space Forces' military units' is a 'main task facing the Aerospace Forces space troops.'"

In addition, Poblete said, the Russian Ministry of Defence has repeatedly affirmed over the past decade that it's developing anti-satellite capabilities. And a Russian Air Force official said in February 2017 "that Russia is developing new missiles with the express intent of destroying satellites," Poblete added in her 1,800-word speech, which you can read in full at the State Department's website (https://www.state.gov/t/avc/rls/285128.htm).

Poblete's words fit the official line that has been coming out of Washington for the past few years. U.S. military officials and high-ranking politicians have repeatedly stressed that the nation's space dominance is under threat and that the country needs to be ready for a war that extends into the final frontier.

Indeed, such reasoning has led President Donald Trump's administration to push for the creation of a new military branch called the Space Force.

Russian and Chinese officials have repeatedly denied any malign intent. For example, Alexander Deyneko, a senior Russian diplomat in Geneva, told Reuters that Poblete's speech yesterday contained "the same unfounded, slanderous accusations based on suspicions, on suppositions and so on.""

gandalf26
08-19-18, 07:54 AM
Doomsday device?

Camo
08-21-18, 01:26 PM
I am hooked on the buzzfeed unsolved videos as well. Sometimes I am yelling at the screen because it is so obvious who did it but the police just do nothing! Like the Keddie cabin murders. Seriously if you can't solve a murder that happened in a village of 60 people... :rolleyes:

I watched this episode, yeah what on earth. It's not like they had no way of bringing them to trial. They had a motive and a witness to that motive (the wife), they had an apparently written confession which just sat for years unopened in an evidence box. Again the wife said it's his handwriting and i'm sure she'd be willing to testify to that plus you could get a handrwriting analyst (even though that's seen as bull by many it seems to work in court), then you have an out of town Psychiatrist whose saying he confessed to him during a session, that dude offered up that information and he has no motive to lie so i'm sure he'd testify to that. Plus there was apparently two of them, all of that is enough to press charges then possibly enough to get the other to flip on him. You also have his son being left alive in the room, baffling.

I don't usually buy into coverups unless there's some evidence for it but this seems like more than incompetence to me.

MonnoM
08-22-18, 05:33 PM
I watched this episode, yeah what on earth. It's not like they had no way of bringing them to trial. They had a motive and a witness to that motive (the wife), they had an apparently written confession which just sat for years unopened in an evidence box. Again the wife said it's his handwriting and i'm sure she'd be willing to testify to that plus you could get a handrwriting analyst (even though that's seen as bull by many it seems to work in court), then you have an out of town Psychiatrist whose saying he confessed to him during a session, that dude offered up that information and he has no motive to lie so i'm sure he'd testify to that. Plus there was apparently two of them, all of that is enough to press charges then possibly enough to get the other to flip on him. You also have his son being left alive in the room, baffling.

I don't usually buy into coverups unless there's some evidence for it but this seems like more than incompetence to me.


You want to talk potential cover-ups, read the Marc Dutroux case. It's a serious mindf*ck and leaves you questioning everything.

cat_sidhe
08-22-18, 05:38 PM
SOMEBODY TALK TO ME ABOUT SPONTANEOUS HUMAN COMBUSTION

KTHXBAI

Camo
08-22-18, 05:39 PM
You want to talk potential cover-ups, read the Marc Dutroux case. It's a serious mindf*ck and leaves you questioning everything.

Read about it before it's insane and disgusting, although not that surprising in hindsight considering Jimmy Saville and that British MP can't remember his name. Oddly i found out about that case because i'd seen a recurring "joke" in British panel shows when ever Belgium was brought up about paedophelia like that was a Belgian stereotype. Went looking to find out what the connection there was and it led me to that, turned my stomach.

Camo
08-22-18, 05:40 PM
SOMEBODY TALK TO ME ABOUT SPONTANEOUS HUMAN COMBUSTION

KTHXBAI

You read about Mary Reeser?

cat_sidhe
08-22-18, 05:44 PM
You read about Mary Reeser?

YES. AND MORE.

I was a subscriber for a while to the "unexplained" phenomena. They wen ton about the COunt St Germaine, UFOS's and...SPONTANEOUS. HUMAN. COMBUSTION. Which is without a doubt, the scariest of that weird assed **** that can befall people.

Camo
08-22-18, 05:47 PM
YES. AND MORE.

I was a subscriber for a while to the "unexplained" phenomena. They wen ton about the COunt St Germaine, UFOS's and...SPONTANEOUS. HUMAN. COMBUSTION. Which is without a doubt, the scariest of that weird assed **** that can befall people.

I dunno, it is scary but from what i've read it'd be instantaneous and thus wouldn't hurt. Awful but it's also more likely to happen to older people from observed cases anyway, think there's more scary things for me because if it is how it's described it's not that different from dying in your sleep as far as you know.

This is the most common explanation for it, it's been observed and i think it makes the most sense - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wick_effect

cat_sidhe
08-22-18, 05:58 PM
I dunno, it is scary but from what i've read it'd be instantaneous and thus wouldn't hurt. Awful but it's also more likely to happen to older people from observed cases anyway, think there's more scary things for me because if it is how it's described it's not that different from dying in your sleep as far as you know.

This is the most common explanation for it, it's been observed and i think it makes the most sense - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wick_effect

YEAH SHC was always the kicker for me. NONE of that **** makes sense....

Camo
08-22-18, 06:01 PM
YEAH SHC was always the kicker for me. NONE of that **** makes sense....

This is what the wick effect is:

The wick effect theory says a person is kept aflame through his/her own fats after being ignited, accidentally or otherwise. The clothed human body acts like an "inside-out" candle, with the fuel source (human fat) inside and the wick (the clothing of the victim) outside. Hence there is a continuous supply of fuel in the form of melting fat seeping into the victim's clothing. Fat contains a large amount of energy due to the presence of long hydrocarbon chains.

It's not proven but i think it makes sense. There was melted fat found in Mary Reesers rug, and it was most likely her cigarette that ignited her.

cat_sidhe
08-22-18, 06:07 PM
[quote]The wick effect theory says a person is kept aflame through his/her own fats after being ignited, accidentally or otherwise. [/quote 9

Just saying it's unfair to blame farts....

Camo
08-22-18, 06:13 PM
The wick effect theory says a person is kept aflame through his/her own fats after being ignited, accidentally or otherwise.

Just saying it's unfair to blame farts....

:laugh:

I do think it is interesting and it might not be the FATS ;), it might be the farts for all we know. Nothing has been proven because it's incredibly uncommon. Since the first time it was observed 80 years ago or whatever there's only been 6 or 7 agreed upon cases. That's nowhere near enough for a case study, you'd probably need at least a thousand to start observing consistent patterns. It's like the James Randi Test, when someone makes a psychic claim he doesn't ask him to demonstrate it once he asks him to do it over and over again to prove he is operating above chance level. Same with anything like this, over six or whatever cases things may seem like they are a constant characteristic but over 1000 some of those may not always happen and thus you can rule that out as an effect rather than a cause. Also unlikely but it's possible the same thing isn't always happening in those cases.

Anyway you just wanted to drunkenly defend farts i'll shut up :D, i just have found this intriguing in the past.

MonnoM
08-22-18, 07:22 PM
The Wreck of the Titan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Futility


"The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility (originally called Futility) is an 1898 novella written by Morgan Robertson. The story features the fictional ocean liner Titan, which sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. Titan and its sinking have been noted to be very similar to the real-life passenger ship RMS Titanic, which sank fourteen years later. Following the sinking of the Titanic, the novel was reissued with some changes, particularly in the ship's gross tonnage.

Plot:

The first half of Futility introduces the hero John Rowland. Rowland is a disgraced former US Navy officer. Now an alcoholic fallen to the lowest levels of society, he has been dismissed from the Navy and works as a deckhand on the Titan. One April night the ship hits an iceberg, sinking somewhat before the halfway point of the novel.

The second half follows Rowland. He saves the young daughter of a former lover by jumping onto the iceberg with her. The pair find a lifeboat washed up on the iceberg, and are eventually rescued by a passing ship. But the girl is recovered by her mother and Rowland is arrested for her kidnapping. A sympathetic magistrate discharges him and rebukes the mother for being unsympathetic to her daughter's savior. Rowland disappears from the world.

In a brief final chapter covering several years, Rowland works his way up from homeless and anonymous fisherman to a desk job and finally, two years after passing his civil service exam, to "a lucrative position under the Government, and as he seated himself at the desk in his office, could have been heard to remark: 'Now John Rowland, your future is your own. You have merely suffered in the past from a mistaken estimate of the importance of women and whisky.' THE END" (1898 edition at Google Books).

A later edition includes a coda. Rowland receives a letter from the mother, who congratulates him and pleads for him to visit her, and the girl who begs for him.

Similarities to the Titanic:

Although the novel was written before the RMS Titanic was even conceptualized, there are some uncanny similarities between both the fictional and real-life versions. Like the Titanic, the fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic, and there were not enough lifeboats for all the passengers. There are also similarities between the size (800 ft (244 m) long for Titan versus 882 ft 9 in (269 m) long for the Titanic), speed (25 knots for Titan, 22.5 knots for Titanic) and life-saving equipment. Similarities between the Titanic and the fictional Titan include:


Similar names of the ships
Both were described as the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men

The Titan was 800 feet long, displacing 75,000 tons (up from 45,000 in the 1898 edition).
The Titanic was 882 feet long, displacing 46,000 tons.


Described as "unsinkable"
Had triple screw (propeller)
Shortage of lifeboats

The Titan carried "as few as the law allowed", 24 lifeboats, which could carry "less than half" of her total complement of 3,000.
The Titanic carried only 16 lifeboats (plus 4 Engelhardt folding lifeboats).


Struck an iceberg

The Titan, moving at 25 knots, struck an iceberg on the starboard side on a night of April, in the North Atlantic, 400 nautical miles (740 km; 460 mi) from Newfoundland (Terranova).
The Titanic, moving at 22½ knots, struck an iceberg on the starboard side on the night of April 14, 1912, in the North Atlantic, 400 nautical miles (740 km; 460 mi) from Newfoundland (Terranova).


Sinking

The Titan sank, and the majority of her 2,500 passengers and crew died; only 13 survived.
The Titanic sank, and 1,523 of her 2,200 passengers and crew died; 705 survived.
The Titan and Titanic both sank on a night in the month of April.



After the Titanic's sinking, some people credited Robertson with clairvoyance. Robertson denied this, claiming the similarities were explained by his extensive knowledge of shipbuilding and maritime trends."

Camo
08-22-18, 07:51 PM
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After the Titanic's sinking, some people credited Robertson with clairvoyance. Robertson denied this, claiming the similarities were explained by his extensive knowledge of shipbuilding and maritime trends."

Some of them aren't that weird and that's without the knowledge the author says he has which could include certain engineering/structural things that makes sense.

Similar Names: Not that odd, both the story ship and the actual ones claim to fame was they were the biggest ship so they were always going to pick a name to highlight this. It is curious that they landed on the same one but consider how many choices they had that sounded grand and majestic and not silly/dumb, while clearly spelling out "big" to even layman.

Both were described as the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men: They were the largest crafts afloat and were huge engineering efforts for their time.

Sizes: My guess is in the 17 years before those sizes seemed HUGE and then unattainable since things were always getting larger, by the time the Titanic came around that gap had been cut down alot and thus became kinda close. I would say a tenth of its length longer and nearly half of its weight isn't that close, granted the 45K/46K is pretty incredible.

Described as "unsinkable": Remember reading this was to quell passenger fears, their size made people nervous that they'd not be able to function. The Titanic's sister ship (Olympia i think?) and others before it were described the same, i'm guessing the author knew this.

Lifeboats: Think the "few as the law allowed" line makes it seem like he knew the minimum and he wanted to paint the people in charge of the ship as penny pinching villains, makes it kinda ironic that they'd spend so much on this ship then refuse to open their wallets for rubber dinghy's. Obviously he didn't count on those Scrooge's being real.

Sinking: Yeah that is the only one i think is truly incredible, amazing coincidence. And that's one he couldn't use his knowledge for i don't think unless that area is known for icebergs, but even if that's the case getting it exact is astonishing.

Crew: That's not very close at all, not even sure why that's mentioned. Nearly a third of the Titanic survived, 13/2500 of the Titan survived.

April: Curious if he gave an exact date like April 29th or whatever and that's ommitted because it wouldn't seem that weird in that case. The Lincoln/Kennedy one left out or outright lied about stuff that would have made it much more mundane. If it was just it happened in April then that's a 1/12 chance which while odd isn't that out there.

Thanks for posting, always like those coincidence comparison things.

MonnoM
08-22-18, 08:04 PM
Some of them aren't that weird and that's without the knowledge the author says he has which could include certain engineering/structural things that makes sense.

Similar Names: Not that odd, both the story ship and the actual ones claim to fame was they were the biggest ship so they were always going to pick a name to highlight this. It is curious that they landed on the same one but consider how many choices they had that sounded grand and majestic and not silly/dumb, while clearly spelling out "big" to even layman.

Both were described as the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men: They were the largest crafts afloat and were huge engineering efforts for their time.

Sizes: My guess is in the 17 years before those sizes seemed HUGE and then unattainable since things were always getting larger, by the time the Titanic came around that gap had been cut down alot and thus became kinda close. I would say a tenth of its length longer and nearly half of its weight isn't that close, granted the 45K/46K is pretty incredible.

Described as "unsinkable": Remember reading this was to quell passenger fears, their size made people nervous that they'd not be able to function. The Titanic's sister ship (Olympia i think?) and others before it were described the same, i'm guessing the author knew this.

Lifeboats: Think the "few as the law allowed" line makes it seem like he knew the minimum and he wanted to paint the people in charge of the ship as penny pinching villains, makes it kinda ironic that they'd spend so much on this ship then refuse to open their wallets for rubber dinghy's. Obviously he didn't count on those Scrooge's being real.

Sinking: Yeah that is the only one i think is truly incredible, amazing coincidence. And that's one he couldn't use his knowledge for i don't think unless that area is known for icebergs, but even if that's the case getting it exact is astonishing.

Crew: That's not very close at all, not even sure why that's mentioned. Nearly a third of the Titanic survived, 13/2500 of the Titan survived.

April: Curious if he gave an exact date like April 29th or whatever and that's ommitted because it wouldn't seem that weird in that case. The Lincoln/Kennedy one left out or outright lied about stuff that would have made it much more mundane. If it was just it happened in April then that's a 1/12 chance which while odd isn't that out there.

Thanks for posting, always like those coincidence comparison things.


Yeah, it's something to pass the time. The coincidence builds up just enough intrigue. :D

MonnoM
06-15-19, 04:38 PM
Mysterious deaths in the Dominican Republic
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominican-republic-death-leyla-cox-another-american-tourist-dies-on-vacation-2019-06-14/


"Another American tourist died this week at a resort in the Dominican Republic. Leyla Cox, 53, came to the island on June 5 to celebrate her birthday.

Her family said she was supposed to return home two days ago, but now, they're planning her funeral. Cox died on June 10, and according to her son, U.S. officials said she died of a heart attack.

At least six other Americans have died since January, some under questionable circumstances. Miranda Schaup-Werner and a couple from Maryland, Edward Holmes and Cynthia Day all died at Bahia Principe hotels.

Preliminary autopsies released by Dominican authorities said they all had fluid in their lungs and respiratory failure. The FBI is conducting toxicology reports on those three deaths.

The series of fatalities are causing concern among Americans thinking of coming to the island. According to the State Department, 13 Americans died there all of last year and three were considered homicides."

MonnoM
07-06-19, 10:03 PM
Leah Broussard and The Mirrorverse
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/scientists-are-searching-mirror-universe-it-could-be-sitting-right-ncna1023206


"At Oak Ridge National Laboratory in eastern Tennessee, physicist Leah Broussard is trying to open a portal to a parallel universe.

She calls it an “oscillation” that would lead her to “mirror matter,” but the idea is fundamentally the same. In a series of experiments she plans to run at Oak Ridge this summer, Broussard will send a beam of subatomic particles down a 50-foot tunnel, past a powerful magnet and into an impenetrable wall. If the setup is just right — and if the universe cooperates — some of those particles will transform into mirror-image versions of themselves, allowing them to tunnel right through the wall. And if that happens, Broussard will have uncovered the first evidence of a mirror world right alongside our own.

“It’s pretty wacky,” Broussard says of her mind-bending exploration.

The mirror world, assuming it exists, would have its own laws of mirror-physics and its own mirror-history. You wouldn’t find a mirror version of yourself there (and no evil Spock with a goatee — sorry "Star Trek" fans). But current theory allows that you might find mirror atoms and mirror rocks, maybe even mirror planets and stars. Collectively, they could form an entire shadow world, just as real as our own but almost completely cut off from us.

Broussard says her initial search for the mirror world won’t be especially difficult. “This is a pretty straightforward experiment that we cobbled together with parts we found lying around, using equipment and resources we already had available at Oak Ridge,” she says. But if she unequivocally detects even a single mirror particle, it would prove that the visible universe is only half of what is out there — and that the known laws of physics are only half of a much broader set of rules."


More in the linked article above.

MonnoM
07-25-19, 02:50 AM
Sonic Attacks in Cuba (Pt. 2)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/doctors-find-differences-brains-u-s-diplomats-who-alleged-mystery-n1032481


"A group of U.S. government workers potentially exposed to unexplained phenomena in Cuba have less white matter in their brains and less connectivity in the areas that control vision and hearing than similar healthy people, doctors have found.

The findings from University of Pennsylvania researchers are the most specific to date about the neurological condition of the U.S. diplomats, spies and their families who reported strange sounds and sensations while serving in Havana between 2016 and 2018.

Yet while doctors found "significant differences" in their brains compared to a control group, they couldn't say whether they were caused by whatever may have happened in Cuba, nor whether those differences account for the Americans' symptoms.

The medical findings, revealed Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association, come as U.S. national security officials tell NBC News that more than two years into the mystery, the government still has not determined who or what is responsible for what transpired in Havana.

The FBI, enlisted in 2017 to investigate what the U.S. has called "targeted attacks," paid multiple trips to Havana but has exhausted its leads in the case, individuals briefed on the investigation say. While the investigation hasn't been formally closed, no external energy source in Cuba has yet been identified that could have caused the injuries, they said. The FBI declined to comment.

Although the Trump administration has not retreated from its assertions that its workers in Cuba were attacked, officials at the FBI, the CIA and the State Department are also examining the possibility that mass psychogenic illness, or psychosomatic symptoms that spread through a community, may be to blame in at least some of the cases, officials said.

The Cuban Embassy in Washington didn't respond to a request for comment. But Dr. Mitchell Joseph Valdés-Sosa, the Cuban Neuroscience Center chief who has been investigating the U.S. claims, said there were major "causes for concern" in the study's methodology, including the makeup of the control group and assertions about brain changes that he said could have resulted from "many factors, including psychological states."

"The most worrisome aspect is the attempt to link these findings with an unspecified 'directional phenomenon,'" Valdés-Sosa said. "The research in this area has been cloaked in secrecy, and driven by cold war paranoia."

Twenty-six Americans who served in Cuba were "medically confirmed" by the State Department to have been affected. The Penn study included most of those workers, their relatives who lived with them and other U.S. workers referred to Penn for potential exposure, bringing the total to 40."


More in linked article above.

ashdoc
07-21-20, 02:28 PM
Attempt to connect to Sushant Singh Rajput by Steve Huff at the request of Indian fans . Sushant was a famous Bollywood actor who committed suicide by hanging himself to a ceiling fan few weeks ago . At 4.06 he says " Dosti Kay name pey , they murdered me" meaning 'They murdered me in name of friendship' . People are commenting in comments section on YouTube below the video . Of course Steve does not understand this as he does not know hindi language

https://youtu.be/7zvkvc5mT04

MonnoM
06-05-21, 06:16 PM
Mysterious Brain Disorder in Canada
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/world/canada/canada-brain-disease-mystery.html


"Six years after they were first reported, debilitating neurological symptoms have shaken the province of New Brunswick and still have doctors in Canada stumped.

Forty-eight people from the same small Canadian province struck with a baffling mix of symptoms including insomnia, impaired motor function and hallucinations such as nightmarish visions of the dead

A quixotic neurologist working 12-hour days to decipher the clues.

Swirling conspiracy theories blaming the illness on cellphone towers, fracking or even Covid-19 vaccines.

These are just some plot lines of a mystery that has stumped Canada’s medical establishment, attracted the attention of some of the world’s top neurologists and fanned fears among residents of New Brunswick, a picturesque province of about 770,000 on Canada’s Atlantic coast. In the past six years, dozens of people have fallen ill from the disease and six people have died.

“People are alarmed,” said Yvon Godin, the mayor of Bertrand, a village in the Acadian Peninsula in northeastern New Brunswick where residents have been afflicted. “They are asking, ‘Is it environmental? Is it genetic? Is it fish or deer meat? Is it something else?’ Everyone wants answers.”


Medical experts said the murkiness surrounding the illness also reflected how, despite extraordinary advances in medical science, some conditions, in particular neurological diseases involving dementia, can puzzle even the world’s best scientific brains.

The mystery, however, could also fizzle, if it turns out that a variety of pre-existing conditions have been prematurely ascribed to a strange new disease.

Among the youngest victims of the Canadian syndrome is Gabrielle Cormier, 20, once a straight-A student who participated in figure skating competitions and aspired to become a pathologist.

But as she began university two years ago, Ms. Cormier said she was suddenly and inexplicably overcome by fatigue, started bumping into things and had visions that looked like static from a television. No longer able to read easily or walk to class, she was forced to drop out of school.

Not understanding what was wrong amplified the illness’s horror. After being misdiagnosed with mononucleosis, Ms. Cormier said emergency room doctors then told her there was nothing wrong with her. A battery of tests yielded no diagnosis. She was eventually referred to a neurologist as her health deteriorated and she experienced involuntary jerking movements, memory lapses and hallucinations. She was among the first to be included in the cluster of those suffering from the unidentified syndrome.

Dr. Neil Cashman, (https://www.centreforbrainhealth.ca/cashman-neil) a neurologist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, who is investigating the illness, said it was a medical whodunit of the type seen only a couple of times a century.

“From the standpoint of a mystery, there is usually something horrible like a murder — in this case it is rapidly progressive dementia, and psychiatric manifestations, losing everything at once that is controlled by the brain and the spinal cord,” he said. “It is terrifying.”

But other medical experts questioned the condition’s novelty.

Dr. Michael D. Geschwind, a professor of neurology at the University of California, San Francisco, who is one of the world’s leading experts on rare neurological outbreaks, hasn’t studied the cases or autopsies of those affected. But he cautioned that what can seem like a new illness sometimes turns out to be a known disease that hasn’t been diagnosed. Those affected, he added, could end up suffering from a “grab bag” of disparate neurodegenerative diseases that were being linked together.

The disease was first observed in 2015 when a New Brunswick neurologist, Dr. Alier Marrero, saw a patient who presented a bizarre mix of symptoms including anxiety, depression, rapidly progressive dementia, muscle pains and frightening visual disturbances.

Three years later, he had eight total cases. The next year the total was 20. Then 38. Then 48.

The patients range in age from 18 to 84 and live primarily in two areas of New Brunswick: Moncton and the Acadian Peninsula.

In April, six years after the first cases emerged, health authorities in New Brunswick and Ottawa, Canada’s capital, assembled a team of neurologists, epidemiologists, environmentalists and veterinarians to investigate. Brain autopsies of the six victims are being analyzed at a federal laboratory in Ottawa, while a team of neurologists and pathologists from across Canada is reviewing the evidence.

Of the three autopsies done so far, all have been negative for known forms of prion disease, according to Dr. Michael Coulthart, a neurologist who is leading the investigation.

Medical investigators said the list of potential causes had been winnowed down to four or five.

Dr. Cashman, the University of British Columbia neurologist, said one line of inquiry was that the disease could be caused by a toxin known as beta-methylamino-L-alanine, or BMAA, which is produced by blue-green algae and has been linked to diseases like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. Another potential culprit, he said, is chronic exposure to Domoic acid, (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4436692/) a neurotoxin found in shellfish from off the coast of New Brunswick. He said the team was not ruling out that it could be a new prion disease or a syndrome caused by an infectious agent such as bacteria, a virus or a fungus."


More in linked article above.

Insane
06-09-21, 08:59 PM
I imagine a lot of these stories are a mixture of police incompetence, lack of many actual facts, and a large helping of the media making stuff up.

A guy goes into a bar with some friends and then disappears. I think it's fair to assume that he didn't actually disappear, so the cctv footage that covers all exits had to show him leaving. Some cop was probably watching it looking for a white male between 20 and 30 years old wearing a dark coat. Maybe he took the coat off and loaned it to a girl he picked up.

Another was the deep sleeper. I can tell you what happened. The thief was dressed up like a prostitute, so she obviously spiked that lady's drink and then robbed her of everything she could find. After waking up and calling the cops, she couldn't tell them she had picked up a prostitute and brought her home, so she had to pretend that she knew nothing.

The old guy wandering around England at night ends up dead with a sock in his mouth. Probably just out there tweaking looking for a prostitute to satisfy some weird fetish that involves stuffing a sock in his mouth and kicking his ass.


Fresno cops after this guy. Yeah, cops will do that. They hate it when people start calling them out. The cctv footage is all there, so there isn't much of a mystery with his death.


There are also a lot involving "bizarre behavior". Meth addicts who have been up for a week, crackheads tweaking, and of course fentanyl junkies can spend hours stooped over like they're looking for something on the ground.



This is not to say that I don't love a good mystery like the rest of you guys. It's just that Occam's razor can explain quite a lot of them.



A great example of that is the rather bizarre Epstein case. A lot of high profile people probably high fived each other when he ended up dead after supposedly strangling himself with a couple jail issue towels and a two foot drop. The cctv cameras didn't work, the guards were asleep, didn't make their rounds as they were supposed to, and now he's dead.



Stuff not working in a county jail isn't exactly new news, nor are lazy correctional officers with nothing to do all day, so why not catch a few winks. then there's the murder/suicide/wtf itself. All I can say about that is he won't be the first suspected pedophile to end up mysteriously dead in jail.



It's all suspicious as hell, until you realize that none of it by itself is in any way suspicious.

xSookieStackhouse
06-10-21, 06:35 AM
well i use to watched ghost hunters, ghost hunters international and ghost loop . loved ghost hunting shows!!

Mr Minio
06-10-21, 06:46 AM
Sorry, the only kind of ghosts I'm into are Chinese ghosts of beautiful girls.

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