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Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 09:50 PM
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Fat MoFos

I wanna know everything there is to know about being fat.

I wanna hear your stories about being a fat person.

I wanna know what was the worst thing anyone ever said to you
about being fat.

If you are a fat/overweight MoFo, this thread is for you and for your words.

If you USED TO BE FAT, this thread is also for you.

I'm being serious here -- let's hear about what it's like to be fat.
This is intended to be a supportive, open minded thread.

Camo
06-08-16, 09:54 PM
*WHITE KNIGHTING*

TONGO
06-08-16, 09:54 PM
I have a potbelly! :)

CiCi
06-08-16, 09:57 PM
I've put on 5 pounds in less than a week :eek: I'm going to blame A-levels but I'm just being a lazy bastard at the minute.

TONGO
06-08-16, 09:57 PM
I have a friend stand across the room and hold their arms up like a NFL upright/goal.....I then place a quarter in my potbelly, fold it inward with my fat, and shoot that quarter thru the air thru the two uprights - SCORE!!! :D

Camo
06-08-16, 09:57 PM
http://s33.postimg.org/ha1amynnz/knight.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

AboveTheClouds
06-08-16, 10:04 PM
*WHITE KNIGHTING*

+1

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 10:06 PM
I have a potbelly! :)

Has your potbelly affected your life at all? Do you ever get any upsetting comments about it? Do people ever tell you you're fat and that you need to lose weight?

AboveTheClouds
06-08-16, 10:16 PM
I was 300+lbs for a long time, and I was displeased with how much weight I had gained, and knew I had to do something because my health was deteriorating and I was starting to have mobility issues. And so I picked up weights, hit the treadmill and asked my doctor for dieting and health advice and I am now around 260, which is a weight that suits my frame and height. I still have a bit of a beer gut from too much beer and hot wings, but I love that stuff too much to give it up entirely. I just watch my sugar intake mainly, soda was a huge problem for me and after I quit drinking it the weight started to come off even quicker, and I felt a lot better too. The fact that I didn't feel sick or bogged down anymore after I cut my sugar intake, that made a huge difference. Weight problems run in my family, and I'm lucky as far as that goes because mine was not from a medical issue but being lazy and not eating right.

TONGO
06-08-16, 10:17 PM
Has your potbelly affected your life at all? Do you ever get any upsetting comments about it? Do people ever tell you you're fat and that you need to lose weight?

When I was younger. I dont stress it now, and whats funny......after I stopped caring about having one, then I was able to lose it on occasion more easily. Go figure.

What I have around my waist now can be eliminated by just eating healthy for a couple weeks.

TONGO
06-08-16, 10:20 PM
I was 300+lbs for a long time, and I was displeased with how much weight I had gained, and knew I had to do something because my health was deteriorating and I was starting to have mobility issues. And so I picked up weights, hit the treadmill and asked my doctor for dieting and health advice and I am now around 260, which is a weight that suits my frame and height. I still have a bit of a beer gut from too much beer and hot wings, but I love that stuff too much to give it up entirely. I just watch my sugar intake mainly, soda was a huge problem for me and after I quit drinking it the weight started to come off even quicker, and I felt a lot better too. The fact that I didn't feel sick or bogged down anymore after I cut my sugar intake, that made a huge difference. Weight problems run in my family, and I'm lucky as far as that goes because mine was not from a medical issue but being lazy and not eating right.


Dude, do the diet sodas. I know they taste like ass I know, but trust me, after a week or two of drinking Diet Coke I never went back to the regular. It tastes too heavy now, and I actually like Diet Coke.

AboveTheClouds
06-08-16, 10:24 PM
Dude, do the diet sodas. I know they taste like ass I know, but trust me, after a week or two of drinking Diet Coke I never went back to the regular. It tastes too heavy now, and I actually like Diet Coke.

I actually will have a diet coke or something with pizza, but I can't drink some of it, some of it is a slap in the face to tasty things. So now I try and drink as much water as humanly possible. And yeah dude I know, I had a regular coke at a friend a few days ago, I didn't remember it ever being so thick and full of syrup, it was weird drinking it.

Swan
06-08-16, 10:25 PM
It's the g*ddamn motherf*cking worst and I f*cking hate it.

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 10:29 PM
Dude, do the diet sodas. I know they taste like ass I know, but trust me, after a week or two of drinking Diet Coke I never went back to the regular. It tastes too heavy now, and I actually like Diet Coke.

I'm crazy about diet soda now. I buy it all the time. There was a time where I hated diet soda and didn't think I could ever get to a stage where I would want it. Not anymore. Weirdly, I've somehow managed to pick it up as a habit. Every now and then I have a regular soda, and I feel bad about it. And I HAVE lost weight because of these diet drinks. They say diet drinks are bad for you, though. But oh well. I used to drink them all the time as a kid.

AboveTheClouds
06-08-16, 10:32 PM
I'm crazy about diet soda now. I buy it all the time. There was a time where I hated diet soda and didn't think I could ever get to a stage where I would want it. Not anymore. Weirdly, I've somehow managed to pick it up as a habit. Every now and then I have a regular soda, and I feel bad about it. And I HAVE lost weight because of these diet drinks. They say diet drinks are bad for you, though. But oh well. I used to drink them all the time as a kid.

Isn't that only the ones with Aspartame in them or whatever? I was always under the impression that diet was fine, but the whole "Coke Zero" thing was bad for you.

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 10:34 PM
And yeah dude I know, I had a regular coke at a friend a few days ago, I didn't remember it ever being so thick and full of syrup, it was weird drinking it.

The high fructose corn syrup in regular sodas turns straight to fat. That's something I heard and I believe it. Your body doesn't know what to do with it. When your body doesn't know what to do with something you put in it, it converts it to fat. You either make fat or you make energy. Diet sodas don't have the high fructose corn syrup.

TONGO
06-08-16, 10:34 PM
I actually will have a diet coke or something with pizza, but I can't drink some of it, some of it is a slap in the face to tasty things. So now I try and drink as much water as humanly possible. And yeah dude I know, I had a regular coke at a friend a few days ago, I didn't remember it ever being so thick and full of syrup, it was weird drinking it.

True story about Classic Coke - My granddad had to work on his lawnmower, but couldnt get the hood off due to a rusted screw. He poured some coca cola on that screw and came back the next day, and it came right off.

Also your car battery. If your battery seems to have gone out, check under the hood to see if its got gook and residue over the cable attachments. If it does, pour some Coke on it and itll clear it right up, and your car will start. I did that for a coworker.

It's the g*ddamn motherf*cking worst and I f*cking hate it.

Yes it is, and the #1 reason - GIRLS! I had a terrible neurosis meeting girls because I dreaded my potbelly. Whats amazing is girls arent as superficial as guys, so I probably couldve done better than what my confidence allowed.

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 10:37 PM
Isn't that only the ones with Aspartame in them or whatever? I was always under the impression that diet was fine, but the whole "Coke Zero" thing was bad for you.

I'm not sure. I believe Diet Pepsi makes a point of saying "no aspartame." I don't really like Coke Zero, though I like the cherry version.

TONGO
06-08-16, 10:38 PM
Isn't that only the ones with Aspartame in them or whatever? I was always under the impression that diet was fine, but the whole "Coke Zero" thing was bad for you.

Yeah I heard that too, but still drank them. Now I just drink water or coffee. Water rocks! I dont know anything truly refreshing as water when exhausted. Down here in Florida you get over the sunshine and see the heat and humidity real fast. :sick:

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 10:39 PM
I have a hard time joining the "Water is the BEST thing EVER!" bandwagon. It just seems delusional.

Swan
06-08-16, 10:51 PM
I've been drinking a lot of seltzer water lately.

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 10:58 PM
I've been drinking a lot of seltzer water lately.
Don't waste that stuff. Clowns gotta have it.

TONGO
06-08-16, 11:03 PM
I've been drinking a lot of seltzer water lately.

Ew. Why? You like it?

Swan
06-08-16, 11:03 PM
Ew. Why? You like it?

Yes.

TONGO
06-08-16, 11:06 PM
Now heres something I still do today, and its easy and will save you alot of weight gain - white grapefruit juice. Straight up, it is so acidic that after an especially unhealthy meal, dessert(s), or whatever....just drinking a small glass of it will destroy about 50% of the fat intake you put in. The stuff tastes foul, so I just pour it in a glass of water to dillute the taste. Guys, it really works.

TONGO
06-08-16, 11:07 PM
Yes.

Cool :up: Its good to like stuff nobody else will touch. Nobody ever tried to swipe my white grapefruit juice.

Sexy Celebrity
06-08-16, 11:21 PM
My goodness. I just took some of my diet drinks out of the pack they came in and I found AN EMPTY UNOPENED CAN. No liquid in it. There's a hole at the bottom of it. The drink must have leaked out and dissolved... but I don't see evidence of a mess.

Captain Spaulding
06-09-16, 03:10 AM
I chose to get fat so I'd have my own pair of boobs to fondle.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s451/captainspaulding87/bra%20man_zpsq8dpkqu8.jpg

Gatsby
06-09-16, 03:43 AM
I'm skinny right now, but I used to be fat when I was kid. Other kids teased me a lot because of that and it was horrible Thankfully my parents had enough money to get me a personal trainer. and even though it took a lot of time, I went back to a normal weight. Been healthy ever since.

Zotis
06-09-16, 03:46 AM
I chose to get fat so I'd have my own pair of boobs to fondle.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s451/captainspaulding87/bra%20man_zpsq8dpkqu8.jpg

Oh man, that is the funniest thing I've heard today.

Well, I have the opposite problem. I'm super skinny. 5'10" and 130lbs. I weighed 135 when I was in high school. Sometimes I just get focused on watching movies and playing video games and I don't even bother to eat. My stomach will grumble, but I am still not hungry and don't want to eat. Eating is such a hassle. Why do I have to do it 3 times a day? I wish I could just eat when I want to and not HAVE to eat to survive.

Also, I'm really not into overweight women. It's a big turn off for me. Sometimes I meet really nice girls who I hit off with and I can tell they like me, and I feel like the only thing stopping me from considering asking them out is their weight. At the same time I feel kind of guilty about it. It's not like I'm judging them as a person, but I just could not marry and have a family with someone I'm not sexually attracted to. Now saying that, it's just in general terms. There's been a couple of times where a girl I've known and gotten to like wasn't too overweight, just a bit, and even though I couldn't imagine having sex with them, their personality is so awesome and they're so much fun to be with that I could see myself being with them anyway just to spend my life with and have a family with someone who's an awesome person.

But seriously, I need to eat more and exercise more... I don't like this laziness in myself.

Zotis
06-09-16, 03:49 AM
My metabolism got me a scholarship at Xavier's School for Mutants.

Gatsby
06-09-16, 03:49 AM
At the same time I feel kind of guilty about it. It's not like I'm judging them as a person, but I just could not marry and have a family with someone I'm not sexually attracted to.
I relate to you man. Like you, I don't like fat woman, but that's because it simply doesn't work with me, and not because I'm some kind of a-hole who appreciates looks only. Now if I said this on Tumblr I would have been stoned. :D

Zotis
06-09-16, 03:50 AM
*WHITE KNIGHTING*

I honestly didn't even know what this was so I looked it up. First hit was this:

http://i.imgur.com/7Y2RhWA.png

Zotis
06-09-16, 03:52 AM
I relate to you man. Like you, I don't like fat woman, but that's because it simply doesn't work with me, and not because I'm some kind of a-hole who appreciates looks only. Now if I said this on Tumblr I would have been stoned. :D

I've never gone on Tumblr in my life, but I hear it's a cesspool.

MovieMeditation
06-09-16, 04:35 AM
I'm totally ripped, sorry.

Zotis
06-09-16, 06:13 AM
I'm totally ripped, sorry.

Show me that six pack you sexy beast! :randy:

Omnizoa
06-09-16, 08:45 AM
I've heard of fat vegans before.

They're almost as rare as male vegans. And male vegans don't exist.

Yoda
06-09-16, 10:58 AM
I have a hard time joining the "Water is the BEST thing EVER!" bandwagon. It just seems delusional.
The wife and I buy cheap, sugar free generic Kool-Aid type stuff (nutritionally, almost indistinct from water) and keep a couple of jugs filled with it in the fridge, and just drink it all the time. I thought we'd get sick of it, but it's been years. I drink more water than I ever have (feel fuller around the margins, too) and actually enjoy it.

Yoda
06-09-16, 11:40 AM
So yeah: fat stuff. I've been all over the map on this one (your admin was so fat, when he was all over the map he was ALL OVER the map). I'll probably do two posts: a summary of sorts, and then some general observations about how this stuff actually feels.

When I was a kid, I was very skinny. I'm the one with the dark hair on the left:

http://i.imgur.com/cSQP7qA.jpg

I'm not sure when I started to get a little chubbier: maybe 13-14? This sort of leveled off and I was probably what you would call thin (or at least, not fat) most of the time I was growing up. This was me at 14:

http://i.imgur.com/N5QgsV3.jpg

Around 18-19, I got particularly thin again, though not out of any concerted effort. I think it was mostly in my head: I was technically an adult, I was going out and meeting people more, and therefore had more reason to think about how I actually looked. I don't remember struggling to eat well or exercise. By the time I met my wife, at 21, I was under 160 lbs (I'll see if I have a picture from this time period when I get home).

I don't have a good handle on how quickly I gained weight after that, but I think it was pretty quick, and pretty steady. Being in a happy, long-term relationship can lead to the formation of habits, and unfortunately, a lot of the habits I formed revolved around eating while watching things with my girlfriend/eventual wife. I didn't weigh myself much at all, but based on the wedding pictures I think I was probably somewhere in the 220s or 230s when we got married in 2010, and I just kept gaining after that. Here's a picture from earlier that year, May of 2010. The other guy is MoFo's own The Silver Bullet, who came all the way from Australia and met up with us in Washington D.C.:

http://i.imgur.com/WPNUFjR.jpg

I don't know exactly what I weighed at my fattest. I know that, when I started weighing myself every day last year, I was just under 250 lbs. This is three weeks beforehand:

http://i.imgur.com/az4RGiO.png

But that was after over a year of tinkering around the margins: giving up a couple of particularly bad meals I was having regularly, scaling back one-pound portions of meat to more like three-fourths of a pound, etc. It was also after playing softball the year before. So I think there's a pretty good chance I was over 260 at one point. Case in point: the following is probably the least flattering photo of me ever taken:

http://i.imgur.com/1egntad.jpg

And then I simply decided to stop being fat. I specifically remember the shopping trip where I decided to buy different foods. The next morning was February 6th, 2015, and I weighed 246.8 pounds. I lost 14 lbs in the first month. This shot is from May 21st, at which point I'd dropped almost 30:

http://i.imgur.com/2o0Plva.png

On July 18th last year I dipped below 200 lbs for what was probably the first time in eight or nine years. Here I am from December, eyeing the kind of deliciousness that started this whole mess:

http://i.imgur.com/CbrNsBc.jpg

On the one-year anniversary of the start of the new diet, I weighed 180.6, over 66 lbs less than when I started, and probably more like 75-80 less than whatever I was at the height of my weight.

There's been some stabilizing since then (I was unrealistically strict with my eating habits in the month leading up to the big anniversary), but as of this morning I'm 186.2 pounds, and I've been doing light weightlifting for over six months and walking two miles a day, so I assume muscle must account for some of it. More than it used to, at least.

Obviously, I'm very happy with all this. I'm a little concerned about the next few years, because it's common to keep weight off for a year (or even three or four or five) and then gain it back anyway. I know if I had a child, for example, or if work became much more stressful, it would probably be very difficult to keep at it. But I do feel some habits have been mostly broken, and a lot of good replacement habits are starting to feel increasingly normal (as opposed to things that require a special effort), so we'll see.

When I started my honest-to-goodness goal was just to lose 25 lbs, to get back into the 220s. I figured (correctly, as it turned out) that with some mindful clothing choices I could hide that level of weight pretty well most of the time, but I kept going, and it's been remarkably rewarding.

So, that's what it looks like to be thin, get fat, and then get thin again.

TONGO
06-09-16, 11:53 AM
Obviously, I'm very happy with all this. I'm a little concerned about the next few years, because it's common to keep weight off for a year (or even three or four or five) and then gain it back anyway. I know if I had a child, for example, or if work because much more stressful, it would probably be very difficult to keep at it. But I do feel some habits have been mostly broken, and a lot of good replacement habits are starting to feel increasingly normal (as opposed to things that require a special effort), so we'll see.

Very very impressive. I knew one person similar to your height and build too that lost weight, and kept it off. You seem to have gone about it the right way, methodically & patiently, and I doubt your weight will yo-yo. Sure youll gain a few pounds from stress someday, but I doubt youll ever see 250lbs again.

Yoda
06-09-16, 12:29 PM
So, that's the physical side of it. Here's the mental stuff:

Being fat is like being in a bad relationship. When you get out, it's obvious what was happening and why it wasn't worth it. But when you're still in it, you just can't see it clearly. Knowing this, I've managed not to beat myself up about this too badly, but more than once I've thought about all the years in my 20s that could've been so much richer and fuller and more enjoyable if I'd just done all this sooner. I can't say I wish I'd never gotten fat, because losing the weight has been instructive, and I appreciate what I have more this way. But I very much wish I'd fixed it sooner.

One of the things I had a lot of trouble with at first was the idea of wanting better things. I was encouraged by the weight I was losing, but I thought "well, then what? I keep losing weight, but the whole time I'm just dreaming about the food I can't eat? I can't do that forever." And that was right: you can't do that forever. But you don't. Over time you really do come to like the healthier stuff a lot more. The weird thing is, I knew this going in, but I didn't want to want the better stuff. Even the idea of losing the craving for bad food was depressing! Think about that. Think about how addicted to something you have to be not just to indulge it, but to not even want to get rid of the desire to indulge it.

If you keep pressing, though, you come out the other side. Now, the things I ate all the time while trying to lose weight almost feel like indulgences. On days where I'm actively trying to lose, almost everything I eat becomes delicious. I'm more interested in different foods, because not allowing myself to gorge means the flavor matters a lot more. I remember when I was younger and someone told me that fruit used to be a dessert. I thought that was nuts. Fruit, for dessert? Dessert is ice cream with chunks of Snickers in it, dude. Not a freakin' apple. But after awhile it starts to make sense: I've got an apple next to me right now, and when I eat it in a little bit it's going to taste very sweet.

-

Everyone's different, but for me, I replaced one addiction with another; the addiction of bad food was replaced with an addiction to the feeling I got when I stepped on that scale in the morning and saw it lower than the day before. Or when I realized something was too big to keep wearing and I had to buy something smaller. Or, best of all, when I finally went up to the attic and grabbed some old clothes I'd put away because they were too tight and found they fit again. Or even, yes, the ego-boosting replies you guys post when I talk about it, or when I see someone for the first time since the weight loss and they mention it. Though I try not to let that last one be too big a factor.

But that's how it goes: you can't just shame yourself for being fat. I don't think that works long-term, and even if it does, you're going to be miserable. You have to find good things you like more than bad food. Get addicted to those. I can't tell you the first one's free, but if you can get hooked on that, the positive addiction is going to beat the negative one, every time.

TONGO
06-09-16, 12:42 PM
Over time you really do come to like the healthier stuff a lot more. The weird thing is, I knew this going in, but I didn't want to want the better stuff. Even the idea of losing the craving for bad food was depressing! Think about that. Think about how addicted to something you have to be not just to indulge it, but to not even want to get rid of the desire to indulge it.

Truth. People underestimate the power of addiction and you described exactly how deep those tendrils go.

The first time I worked hard to lose weight I took up running and Slim-Fast. Yes I yo-yo'd back afterward (Slim Fast, fugedaboudit), but gutting thru those runs.....running works if you want to lose weight faster. My trick was, since Im not an athlete, was to run as far as I could, then walk until I got my wind back, and then run as far as I could, then walk, and repeat. Every day I made a point to run further than the day before. It works. :yup: Run, not jog. Jogging shreds your knees.

My friend Fred and his brother pumped iron, and their Dad told me to do a push-up, and to always do an extra one each day. Doesnt matter if you can only do one, as long as the day after its two, and you never slide backwards in count. In Schwarzeneggers first autobiography "The Education Of A Bodybuilder" he emphasized the same principles, but said to execute the push-up, pull up, or whatever perfectly. Do it right once or not at all, but do one extra one each day.

doubledenim
06-09-16, 12:45 PM
Diet Sun Drop is the #1 choice for sans-calorie soda. The down side is that it is never subsidized. Hard to pay $5+ when Mtn Dew is "on sale" for $2/12pk eury week.

I drink fast and diet sodas don't create the tummy terror that regular soda does.

mistique
06-09-16, 12:46 PM
I remember being called Miss Piggy once, but less face it: she's fierce!

http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2015/news/150928/miss-piggy-1-435.jpg

Yoda
06-09-16, 12:55 PM
Oh yeah, and the diet soda stuff is all true: you get used to it very quickly, and then the regular stuff tastes almost too sweet to enjoy.

That's a big one, because soda is high in calories, but unlike other things that are high in calories it doesn't fill you up, so you can just pour it in all day.

Mr Minio
06-09-16, 02:36 PM
I'm overweight as well. 6.3 ft - 220 lbs, but I don't really care about losing weight and I'm too lazy to work out. I spend all my time sitting or laying and I don't do anything besides eating, watching films, studying and being an ass on MoFo. Nah, I'm exaggerating a bit.

I find what Zotis wrote kind of funny, because since he is skinny he doesn't like overweight women, I am kinda overweight and I don't like skinny women, so there's something in it. But in spite of what he is saying I could totally be in a relationship with a skinny woman if she was attractive and had cool personality.

By the way, by overweight I mean like 10-30 pounds more than 'average', not like 440 pounds in total. xD

Yoda
06-09-16, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I mean, 220 really isn't a lot at that height. But one thing I'd really want to dispel (not that you were necessarily implying this!) is that you need to exercise to lose weight. You definitely don't, and from what I can tell it's really just for general health, and/or as an addition to eating healthier. Losing weight with exercise requires a ton of exercise. It's really about the diet.

Mr Minio
06-09-16, 02:52 PM
I know it's about the diet, but when I used to live in another place and had to walk 5 km in total everyday, I was skinnier even though I ate exactly the same stuff. It is mainly about what you eat, but additional exercise (even if it's just walking) also seems to play some part.

Yoda
06-09-16, 03:59 PM
Oh sure. That's an excellent habit, and if you're already not eating terribly it makes a big difference. When I was a lot heavier, though, for a long time I felt discouraged from even trying to lose weight because exercising regularly was so daunting. I wish I'd known then how little role that can play in losing weight.

Zotis
06-09-16, 07:47 PM
I'm overweight as well. 6.3 ft - 220 lbs, but I don't really care about losing weight and I'm too lazy to work out. I spend all my time sitting or laying and I don't do anything besides eating, watching films, studying and being an ass on MoFo. Nah, I'm exaggerating a bit.

I find what Zotis wrote kind of funny, because since he is skinny he doesn't like overweight women, I am kinda overweight and I don't like skinny women, so there's something in it. But in spite of what he is saying I could totally be in a relationship with a skinny woman if she was attractive and had cool personality.

By the way, by overweight I mean like 10-30 pounds more than 'average', not like 440 pounds in total. xD
Actually it's kind of funny because I find women who are very skinny unattractive too. Like women who are as skinny as me. I find my own level of skinny unattractive. I don't want to be this skinny, I am just too lazy to eat enough. But it's something I'm working on and plan to change. I've started with overall discupline in areas like cooking, cleaning, and exercise.

foster
06-09-16, 08:06 PM
I don't really have any fat stories. One time I did five pushups and I was sore the next day.
The only clothes that still fit me are my shoes.

I don't think I'm obese anymore but I'll ask my dr. next time I see him.

Miss Vicky
06-09-16, 08:25 PM
I've been debating on whether or not to respond in this thread. I don't want to seem like I'm trying to throw a pity party for myself but I'm not sure how to word what I have to say without that happening. I've also been debating about just how much to say.

It's funny that SC said (in the other thread) that he and a lot of people associate fat people with being "jolly." I don't make that connection at all. I associate obesity with depression, shame, and self-loathing. I make these associations because they've been my experience with it and also the experiences of the overweight people I've known IRL. Even the ones I've known that were amiable and laughed all the time turned out to be just putting up a facade when nobody else was around.

The root of my own problems are two fold -

I have struggled with depression most of my life (sometimes to the point of feeling suicidal) and since childhood I have turned to food as a coping mechanism for feelings of inadequacy, failure, and general stress. I know it's an unhealthy thing to do, but overcoming lifelong habits and conquering food addiction is no easy task, especially in a culture that is as food obsessed as ours. Dealing with depression also makes it difficult to find the motivation and willpower to get up and exercise and often my good intentions of getting moving more are never actualized.

I was also diagnosed with poly cystic ovary syndrome several years ago (which should have been diagnosed much sooner. I started noticing symptoms in my late teens, but willful ignorance, personal denial and a fear of doctors prevented that for quite awhile). Among the many other WONDERFUL things this ****ing disease does to my body, untreated PCOS causes weight gain and makes losing weight very difficult. It also pre-disposes affected women to diabetes and causes infertility, overproduction of male hormones, depression, thinning hair on the scalp, excess body hair, and acne. Its cause is not well known, but it tends to run in families and genetics are thought to play a role. (AFAIK, nobody on my dad's side of the family has it. My mom doesn't have it, but she was adopted so her family history is just one big question mark.)

I was a little overweight as a young child, though not obese. But that little bit of extra fat was certainly enough to attract bullies - from kids at school, kids in my neighborhood, and even from my own brother at home. My mother also very noticeably favored my brother over me when we were growing up, which just did wonders for my self esteem (our relationship is much better now though). When puberty hit, my weight really started to get out of control.

When I was a freshman in high school, I made the ill-advised decision to become a lacto-ovo vegetarian - which I continued to do until probably my mid twenties. A lot of very unhealthy, high carb foods are technically vegetarian and I ate them. Not only that, but I ate a lot of commercial meat substitutes - most of which contained soy. In moderation, soy can be a healthy protein source but soy contains phyto-estrogens which studies suggest can contribute to hormonal imbalances if too much is consumed.

When I finally got diagnosed at around age 29 or 30, I had ballooned to 243 pounds. My doctor prescribed a birth control medication that contained estrogen to counteract the hormonal imbalance from my PCOS, I was referred to a nutritionist who taught me how to diet by counting carbs (which meant eating five times a day - 3 meals containing 45-60 grams of carbs and 2 snacks containing 15-30 grams of carbs), and I quit taking the bus to work and started walking. I also started taking regular walks and going bowling every weekend - which meant walking about 2.5 miles from my house to the bowling alley, while carrying my 13 pound ball, my shoes, bottled water, snacks, etc, bowling 10 games, and then walking back home with all of my stuff. After about a year of this, I had shed over 50 lbs. I was feeling the best I'd felt in a very long time, both physically and emotionally.

Then some major bumps in the road happened and it really took the wind out of my sails. I usually only see my extended family on the holidays and I couldn't wait to show off my progress at the Thanksgiving family gathering. I'd been getting compliments from friends, neighbors, co-workers and clients at work all the time, but my family? Nobody said a word. It was really disheartening.

A few days after that, I was at home putting up Christmas decorations and decided to indulge in some pretty fattening Mexican food. Late that night I wound up in the ER in excruciating pain from a blocked bile duct due to gall stones. I was hospitalized for a few days, had surgery to remove my gall bladder, and then was unable to exercise while I recovered. A couple of weeks later, I ended up in even worse pain and was hospitalized again due to some sort of liver complication. Not long after that, I had to have one my cats put to sleep due to cancer and I fell back into a pretty bad depression. Over the next few years, other things in my personal life turned to **** and my depression got worse. As a result, I fell back into unhealthy eating habits, eventually quit bowling, and wasn't exercising much in general.

So I started putting weight back on, though didn't gain it all back. Eventually I was taken off of the birth control because I had developed high blood pressure which made it unsafe for me to continue taking estrogen due to the risk of stroke. So now here I am still struggling with depression and stress and trying to get the weight back off, but am finding it really hard to do so now that I'm not getting any treatment for my PCOS. I tried Weight Watchers for awhile but saw only a little success and a lot of frustration and cost.

To further complicate matters, I've very recently been diagnosed with diabetes, which until this moment is something I have only told my coworkers about. I'm struggling with a lot of feelings of shame over having allowed this to happen but I'm also trying very hard to get back on the road to health. I'm on medications for it, as well as for my blood pressure, and will soon be meeting with a nutritionist again to learn how to better manage my blood sugar. I've also been eating smaller portions, more vegetables, leaner protein, drinking more water, and exercising more but I'm struggling to figure out the right balance of food and exercise. I've ended up overdoing the exercise a few times, resulting in hypoglycemic episodes which are both frightening and dangerous. My first appointment with the nutritionist is tomorrow. So fingers crossed I can get and keep this under control.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text.

TONGO
06-09-16, 08:52 PM
Damn Vicky. That is brutal, and Im truly sorry youve gone thru and go thru that.

Cobpyth
06-09-16, 09:02 PM
Stories about long-term illnesses always make me kind of angry because they're so unfair. I sincerely hope this new opportunity can be the turnaround that finally makes things gradually better for you.

Good luck, Miss Vicky! :)

Camo
06-09-16, 09:06 PM
Yeah, that sounds awful MV :(

So fingers crossed I can get and keep this under control.

Hope this goes well :up:

TONGO
06-09-16, 09:08 PM
Vicky the overall health problems youve had to go thru....... I would encourage visiting a doctor of general holistic medicine. Its not all about Massage, and Acupuncture.....thats just scratching the surface on how holistic medicine can improve your entire health and well being, not just weight like a nutritionist.

Sexy Celebrity
06-09-16, 09:17 PM
It's funny that SC said (in the other thread) that he and a lot of people associate fat people with being "jolly." I don't make that connection at all. I associate obesity with depression, shame, and self-loathing.

I don't go around looking at every fat person and think, "I just KNOW she's jolly!" But I have heard of a stereotype that says fat people are happy, or will do and say things that will cheer you up. It might come from Santa Claus. And actually, apparently -- this is something I'm seeing while Googling -- apparently the obesity gene makes you happier. That's what I'm reading here.

There's apparently a bunch of fat comedians. Honeykid -- who you all think is funny -- revealed to me that he's fat. I myself have gotten fatter in years. I don't really think of myself as fat, but people who used to know the super skinny old me have come up to me and said, "YOU. ARE. FAT!" I certainly would like to weigh less than I do. I definitely do not have the indifferent, nonchalant attitude a lot of other guys do with food -- "I don't really need it." I like food! I'm finishing up a thick, chocolate milkshake right now. Food can make you feel balanced. It can alter your mood for the better (and sometimes for the worse).

And I think fat can even be sexy. I do not belong to the camp that says fat is unattractive. In fact, in my honest opinion, I think men PREFER fat people. I think men like the extra meat. I honestly think super skinny bitches act horrified of fat women out of jealousy. Jealousy! It's a conspiracy -- they fat shame to give themselves a false superiority. They've created a world that says being a twig is the sexiest look you could attain, but it's lies -- all lies. So I say to fat people -- look -- you hold the power. Excess is good. Excess means you've got the access to the food supply and all that. You could be starving somewhere in Africa, but instead, you've got the grub.

And I must say -- without this hopefully getting weird:

http://i.imgur.com/1egntad.jpg

Chris (Yoda) was hot as Hell as a fat guy.

If that's his least flattering photo ever, I'm jealous. I wish that was my least flattering photo. Maybe we ought to change user names. He can be Sexy Celebrity, I'll be Yoda. I deserve it -- I'm much smarter than him, anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/2o0Plva.png

He cute. I must say -- I think he looks good.

Omnizoa
06-11-16, 12:50 AM
in my honest opinion, I think men PREFER fat people. I think men like the extra meat. I honestly think super skinny bitches act horrified of fat women out of jealousy. Jealousy!
Smooth move, Sherlock. You have it in for Watson?

Sprague Dawley
10-11-21, 10:10 PM
And then I simply decided to stop being fat.This might sound overly simplistic but it is a gold nugget of truth. The mental aspect is so much of it. It's so weird. Just deciding something is now "this way" and so many other aspects just fall into line.

Yoda
10-12-21, 11:07 AM
This might sound overly simplistic but it is a gold nugget of truth. The mental aspect is so much of it. It's so weird. Just deciding something is now "this way" and so many other aspects just fall into line.
Yeah, I agree.

I want to clarify that "just decide to stop being fat" is not meant to suggest there are not sometimes things well beyond mere choice that make it difficult or, in very rare cases, close to impossible. The thing I actually wanted/want to get across is t hat weight loss is not accompanied by some seminal life event or perfect circumstances or anything like that. The choice becomes the seminal life moment.

There was absolutely nothing special about the day I decided to do this, except for it being the day I decided it. If someone's waiting for things to line up (new job, new house, kids growing up, whatever) to do something like this, I think they'll usually be waiting forever. And it won't take, because if that's what's necessary to change a diet it'll fall away even after an initial success/loss if it can't withstand life's random stresses and curveballs.

Yoda
10-12-21, 11:09 AM
Guess I might as well post a general update: technically I'm about 5-6 pounds heavier than when I wrote this! But I can tell from looking at photos then and now that it's more muscle than fat, thankfully. Still, psychologically being in the mid-to-high-180s feels wrong, since for a couple of years getting into the 170s and staying there (and even dipping as low as 168 a couple of years ago) was all I cared about for awhile. But I can tell 180 now is better than 180 then.

Turns out the process of actually getting into shape, as opposed to just losing weight, is a much harder and slower one.