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NedStark09

04-05-16, 04:56 PM

I think there is allot of new talent for NXT which is HHH creation more the Vince's who can bring better new Blood in. But for me The Top 10 Best Current Talent that will be good are these.

10 Big E Langston
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/pauls4002/WWE/BIG-E-wwe_zpsv6bfz5jb.jpg

He Is not the tallest big man but he has a like ability. His New Day Gimmick Is Ok But He makes a great heel and i can see him with a few belt runs.

9 Kevin Owens
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee460/ruben_origami/Wrestling/Other%20Pictures/CornellVerse%20Background/K%20Images/Kevin%20Owens/Kevin%20Owens%20002%20CornellVerse_zpscpolej88.jpg
He will be a 3 time wwe champ at least because in his first match on big roster he dominated Cena. He is a heel that gets Austin pops.

8 Cesaro
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/pauls4002/WWE/cesaro_zps4qombtwm.jpg

Once Vince Makes up his mind about pushing him. I think he will be a long reigning champ of multipal belts. SO what he is not Randy orton in looks. But he has power and can do a match better then Roman.

Will do rest of my list later.

Derek Vinyard

04-05-16, 05:00 PM

Quebec French-Canadian guy Kevin Owens! My favorite wrestler in WWE right now. Best heel in the business and awesome wrestler.

Optimus

04-05-16, 05:06 PM

I'd love to know how these guys pass steroid tests.

Derek Vinyard

04-05-16, 05:30 PM

I'd love to know how these guys pass steroid tests.

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/474/772/89a201410c7521d48b7f5166e00d4dff_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

''Steroids''

Optimus

04-05-16, 05:35 PM

http://s27.postimg.org/7e2weoqab/image.jpg

..Steroids.

Derek Vinyard

04-05-16, 05:48 PM

http://s27.postimg.org/7e2weoqab/image.jpg

..Steroids.

Ryback must be the worst wrestler ever tho... I despise him. He injured CM Punk and laugh of him after it. This guy is just dumb as f*ck.

Optimus

04-05-16, 05:49 PM

CM Punk is in the ufc now yanno?.

Derek Vinyard

04-05-16, 05:53 PM

CM Punk is in the ufc now yanno?.

Yeah I hope for him he does well there... I hope for a WWE return one day even if it's highly improbable. He still my favorite wrestler ever tho

Camo

04-05-16, 05:58 PM

Yeah its to child friendly these days. Bring back the days of Raw is War.

Yeah it is pretty embarrassing now. Feel like i'm eight years old while watching it.

Fabulous

04-05-16, 06:21 PM

Attitude Era > Everything

Camo

04-05-16, 06:30 PM

Attitude Era > Everything

Thought that was probably nostalgia on my part until i started watching stuff again from all the era's last year. The Attitude Era has its fair share of dated and horrible moments but it was usually entertaining and didn't make you feel like you are 12 years old max.

teeter_g

04-05-16, 06:51 PM

I am surprised that there wasn't a thread like this before. LOL! I love wrestling but have recently had to stop watching it as much because I simply do not have the time. I watch Raw weekly and I watch NXT weekly and that is it. I don't even watch SmackDown!. It was all taking up too much time on my DVR and I didn't have the time when I was off work to catch up with everything. My favorite wrestler right now is Dean Ambrose. I think he is the most talented that they have on Raw and I don't get why they don't want to push him more. As far as women go Becky Lynch is my favorite, Sasha Banks is a close second.
NXT has to go to Austin Aries, hands down. Favorite female there is Bayley.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ac/fa/9f/acfa9f1a400738a3bbad48307989d275.jpg
https://cdn1.thehunt.com/app/public/system/zine_images/9140835/original/86a9be02ea6f80283890b8f5466ed40b.jpeg
http://images.sportsworldnews.com/data/images/full/31848/sasha-banks.jpg
http://www.ringsidenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Austin-Aries-NXT.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Bayley_April_2014.jpg/220px-Bayley_April_2014.jpg

NedStark09

04-05-16, 10:09 PM

7 Baron Corbin
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb345/ldsports/Card%20Breaks/2015%20WWE%20undisputed%20Case/scan0065_zpsscvpgwya.jpg
New Too Raw Won The Andre The Giant Battle Royale Trophy.

6 Bray Wyatt
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/pauls4002/WWE/bray1_zpsurgbaz0s.jpg

Future Great Icon If once they give him title Pushes. They may never do that until the Wyatt Family is no longer a unit or the Family Turns On Bray.

Naisy

04-05-16, 10:36 PM

I was hoping it would take at least a week before this became like every other internet thing about WWE.
Ok let's get this over and done with:

Roman Reigns sucks because he is being forced down our throats, never mind that he has improved greatly on the mic and in-ring, it has become a thing where you have to boo him because the internet says so. One year they are begging for him the win the Royal rumble and the next booing him out of the building because he does.

Cena sucks because he buries everyone because he wins a match or because he won't turn heel, never mind the fact that kids love him, he works nonstop, grants make-a-wishes like a champ, makes a ******** of money for the company and has easily had his best in ring performance year in his career. Losing to Cena has become expected so therefore no one is ever really buried by losing to Cena it all depends on how good you look doing it and winning against Cena (like Owens and Bryan) makes you look pretty special.

Um, what else? oh yeah Brock is awesome! for some reason. He has three moves and kicks out of every finisher but hey he was UFC Champion so wicked.

I agree it's criminal how Bray has been handled and Kevin Owens should be WWE Champion by the end of the year, but when all the focus is on about nitpicking and finding new things to whinge about every single week how can you sit back and just enjoy the entertainment?

People want WWE to create "new stars" yet the crowds will only support those that aren't seen to be being pushed as a new Cena or Rock or Stone Cold or Hogan or Undertaker. All that being said:

CESARO SECTION

Derek Vinyard

04-05-16, 10:37 PM

Roman Reigns is a cancer... sorry but it's a d*mn fact

Naisy

04-05-16, 10:41 PM

Yup, pretty much exactly my point :rolleyes:
It's just the thing to do now. It wouldn't matter if he came out and speared someone through glass while on fire. Just gotta boo
I'm not even saying he is good. The level of hate is just pathetic.

jiraffejustin

04-05-16, 10:42 PM

I was into wrestling when I was younger, but I didn't really watch full shows that often. I was more into individual matches. Short matches were what I usually were into, often by underrated guys on tv.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2t3KjVLf1I

Camo

04-05-16, 11:12 PM

Camo

04-05-16, 11:14 PM

Bret Hart was the best to watch easy:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31v8pq

Was so important Donald Trump was the ref.

NedStark09

04-06-16, 03:08 PM

5 Sami Zayn
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c45/drapetisgal7/samizayan_zps3dbf0282.jpg
Strange How Vince Likes Zayn when he basically seems like the next Daniel Brian.

4 Samoa Joe
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t222/sabrebIade/samoajoe-tna-wrestling.jpg
Thank God A Real Samoan who wont care who the Rock is and someone who can teach Roman Regins what a real wrestler is.

Gideon58

04-06-16, 06:53 PM

I came here to let anyone who might be interested that I recently saw the Amy Shumer movie Trainwreck, which featured WWE superstar John Cena in a featured role and he was REALLY funny.

NedStark09

04-06-16, 06:59 PM

Most True Wrestling Fans wont care cause Cena is kinda hated by allot of people. But strangely Austin and The Big Show say he was good for the buisness and did not hold people down.

TONGO

04-06-16, 07:04 PM

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/003/120/659/SD_05202008cm_0728_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

I wonder if a gimmick will ever come around in my lifetime as great as The Undertakers? Man that guy is a workers worker. Its too bad hes old school, born in kayfabe, and wont tell all the stories he has. My gosh itd be enthralling to hear.

If theyre on steroids isnt the question anymore. Nobody cares like they used to. If head office wants to suspend someone, or if theres gonna be a media tidalwave on the business due to a tragedy (Benoit) then theyll dole out suspensions. Otherwise they just suspend for heavy narcotics regardless what the official corporate line is.

Steve Austins weekly podcast is a treat to listen to. Any Stone Cold fans that havent should give it a go ;)

http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show

I was going to watch Wrestlemania 32 and do a review in my new thread. I havent kept up with the current product as much, but do know Bray Wyatt is Barry Windhams nephew, so thats cool :)

NedStark09

04-06-16, 08:08 PM

I listen too the Unleashed Podcast where its not WWE controled but I like the WWE Network Podcasts too but some stories have heard before on a previous podcast with some of these simular guests. Stone Cold is on very good Terms with DDP, Paul Heyman and has had HBK, and many others on his show. He has not done a Undertaker or Sting Podcast yet.

NedStark09

04-06-16, 08:10 PM

NedStark09

04-07-16, 02:22 PM

3 Finn Balor
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy234/freethrowtommy/Actors/Finn%20Balor%20-%202015%20Topps%20Heritage%20Auto_zpstvwzyq0t.jpg

Reminds me a bit of Sting mixed with the crazy of a Raven. But I think he will be Champion of some belt on the main roster soon.

2 Seth Rollins
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/deanambroselover/The%20Shield/SD_735_Photo_084_zps2734a4e2.jpg
I wanna see Seth Kick in HHH Teeth. I mean you can bet Rollins return for his belt will be a great moment for Roman haters.

1 Dean Ambrose
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/deanambroselover/The%20Shield/a394932e7d96234b6b1a78d7595e4ecb_zpsce875f85.jpg

Once WWE gets out of his way and just push the guy he will be big as Punk with Fans. He has an Edge Type of feel with a Bit of a Roddy Pipper kind of crazy.

False Writer

04-07-16, 04:52 PM

I'm surprised I didn't notice this thread til just now. As someone who watched the Attitude Era when I was a kid, I've been watching wrestling on and off again all my life. My favorite wrestler ever is Mick Foley. If it wasn't for him, I would have never gotten into wrestling like I did. Watching him in the AE was pretty much my gateway into ECW, hardcore wrestling, deathmatch wrestling, and indy wrestling in general.

As for WWE, I stopped watching sometime in 2007 (after the Benoit incident) but began watching again in like 2012 I think. I'm still watching Raw, but it's usually hit-or-miss. Sometimes it gets pretty bad, but I haven't given up yet. :p

TONGO

04-07-16, 05:01 PM

Bray Wyatt is the son of a Wrestler called IRS As well and his real brother is Bo Dallas.

Yeah IRS was Mike Rotundo he was part of the Varsity Club with Rick Steiner back in the NWA. He and Barry wrestled down here in Florida before that.

That Seth Rollins seems to be the total package right now. You need someone strong to be the company heel. I saw the clip on YouTube of Foley, Austin, and Shawn Michaels whooping on some new guys (Im not familiar with current product) and got that old rush. LOVE when I hear the breaking glass :D

NedStark09

04-07-16, 07:55 PM

That Was at this years Wrestlemania Austin and Crew Beat up, Rusev,Sheamus and Alberto Delrio. Then Lastly King Barret.

NedStark09

04-10-16, 06:29 PM

Monday Night Raw will be on tomarrow for 3 hours. HHH is scheduled too be on too confront Reigns and likely mess over Styles being Number One Contender. I also heard that maybe Dean Ambrose will start a feud with Y2J briefly while AJ Styles faces Reigns and Maybe HHH.

AboveTheClouds

04-11-16, 06:26 AM

Bret Hart was the best to watch easy:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31v8pq

He is a hometown hero! My dad actually used to wrestle in the 80's all around the Canada, USA and Puerto Rico. If anyone who knows who Carlito is, he is actually my cousin although I don't believe we've seen each other since I was a baby. His mom is my dads sister, and my dad was trained and taught to wrestle by her husband and Carlitos dad Carlos down in Puerto Rico, he lived down there for a long time actually. My dad was actually wrestling in this territory for the Hart family and that's how he met my mom. So basically I can thank wrestling for being alive, hahahahahaha.

And I don't know about you guys, but I loved ECW in its heyday and WCW used to be classic, I loved Monday Nitro.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Ready_to_rumble_poster.jpg

Anyone?

NedStark09

04-11-16, 03:29 PM

Nitro had the luchadores and not just rey mystero j. Mysterio s best matches was against Japan wrestler ultimo dragon and luchadore psychosis.

False Writer

04-11-16, 03:59 PM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Ready_to_rumble_poster.jpg

Anyone?

Yes! I watched that so many times when I was younger while the AE was still going on. I do wonder how well it holds up today?

NedStark09

04-12-16, 04:30 AM

My Monday Night Raw Review

The Highlights Of The Show.

1 Opening Match with Cesaro vs Owens For Number One Contenders Match For IC title. Cesaro Wins

2 Sammy Zayn vs AJ Styles. AJ Styles wins

3 Dean Ambrose Ribbing Jericho About Deans Assylem His Knock Of The Highlight Reel.

I hope that is legit for Dean does have a Piper Feel too him. He'd be funny with a Deans Pit type of segment.

The Tag Match With Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt vs Sheamus and Alberto Delro was not very good.

And I wanna see Enzo and Cass in a match already.

Derek Vinyard

04-12-16, 04:34 AM

That was a good Raw!!

Doc Gallows and Karl Anderson are finally here!! BULLET CLUB !!!

AJ Styles vs Sami Zayn was AWESOME.

Kevin Owens vs Cesaro was Great

Derek Vinyard

04-12-16, 04:35 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ms0DFxpptk

Still the best promo I've ever seen.

And also the best wrestler ever.

NedStark09

04-12-16, 04:39 AM

I think Enzo will be a good promo master and I think they will never last long term like the Usos or Dudleys. Because Big Cass could be special after a few years in the Tag division and Enzo could have a good run on smaller titles.

NedStark09

04-12-16, 09:45 PM

Top 10 WCW Wrestlers.

10 Dean Malenko
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x310/The_Ultimate_Wrestling_Gallery/Dean%20Malenko/DeanMalenko016.jpg

He was never given a proper chance in the wwe other then a behind the scenes person. Yet Mysterio, Benoit and others got belts and he was the guy who gave the best match of the night.

9 Harlem Heat
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j341/EtiquetteRex/Wrestlefest/harlemheat.jpg
Best Tag Team In My Opinion. I thought it was dumb that Bookers gets in and its not Harlem heat which means Stevie Ray will never get in the hall but Booker T can. Doesnt seem fair but then again Harlem heat was a WCW team.

8 Ray Mysterio Jr
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x310/The_Ultimate_Wrestling_Gallery/Rey%20Mysterio%20Jr/ReyMysterioJr033.jpg
I will admit he was good in his prime its just now his knees are so blown out that wwe wont sign him but will others like Alberto and AJ Styles but wont let this man finish on a worthy contract.

Naisy

04-13-16, 01:42 AM

WWE were begging for Mysterio to come back. In fact they extended his contract without his consent because of how much time he had spent of injured (which was WWE's right). He refused to work or take his pay from WWE because he wanted to leave to go to AAA. AJ Styles is worth signing he was TNA's top guy for over decade and big in Japan. I have no idea what the point of re-signing Del Rio who is boring as can be when they have Kalisto.

NedStark09

04-13-16, 05:34 PM

I'd like too see sincara get a title push because he is or was pretty good when he first showed up.

NedStark09

04-13-16, 05:36 PM

TONGO

04-14-16, 01:08 AM

Bad news guys. Bray Wyatts gonna be out a stretch...

WWE star Bray Wyatt injured during match in Italy

http://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-bray-wyatt-injury-italy-041316

NedStark09

04-14-16, 03:34 AM

Looks like we will see Finn or Joe moved up sooner or later.

Naisy

04-14-16, 07:09 AM

Styles is fine but why does Samoa Joe gotta go to nxt . He is just as god as styles.

I heard Samoa Joe was a big deal but I gotta say I haven't seen him have many worthwhile matches for NXT. Even against Balor he was just ok. I think the idea of using Samoa Joe to build up new stars in the NXT brand is fine. He will be on the main roster soon enough. AJ just happens to fill the gap at the moment they need of a younger, faster, fitter Jericho. Especially if they are planning on reuniting the bullet club.

Naisy

04-14-16, 07:10 AM

Bad news guys. Bray Wyatts gonna be out a stretch...

WWE star Bray Wyatt injured during match in Italy

http://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-bray-wyatt-injury-italy-041316

BLEEP

NedStark09

04-14-16, 02:55 PM

Im not buying this nice act by AJ Styles and And think AJ will Go heel and Roman will get beat down at Payback when this Bullet Club Returns.

Does anyone here think we will ever see Matt Morgan In The WWE again. He was in TNA and he would make a good Lesnar feud because he was huge.

TONGO

04-14-16, 02:57 PM

Looks like we will see Finn or Joe moved up sooner or later.

Sooner now with Wyatt hurt (Brays my fav current guy now :(). Im betting Joe, and they may try and acknowledge his TNA tenure to increase his hype. I know company policy is to to pretend TNA doesnt exist, I dont know...do they still?

NedStark09

04-14-16, 05:31 PM

Well with Austin Aries and both half's of beer money here you kinda discover we like raiding there talent. Its too bad hhh Wont bring angle back too ave an icons match and join the hall.

NedStark09

04-16-16, 12:08 AM

7 Ultimo Dragon
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/ultimodrgnrulz/ultimo.jpg
I think he had matches with every wcw luchadore, and even matches with Malenko, jericho and Guerrero. But his best matches was against Ray Mysterio which I think he wrestled the most. But my memory may be just bad.

NedStark09

04-17-16, 10:59 PM

WWE Monday Night Raw Returns and she will be Live From London. Am hoping shane will be back but HHH and Stephanie McMahon should be on the show to mess with Roman and AJ Styles cause I think AJ Styles will turn heel and we will get The Bullet Club as the new Athority Fraction but Shane Will have the viewers and Vince will not be appearing too be in any corner.

Camo

04-17-16, 11:05 PM

Dean Malenko was probably my second favourite wrestler to watch after Bret Hart. Guy was unbelievable, very underrated. Too bad he didn't have much personality neither did Bret in all honesty.

NedStark09

04-17-16, 11:05 PM

6 The Giant.
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/fullmetalcroft/giant.jpg

The Big Show I dont think is or was given enough respect for what he has done in both companies. Everyone Loved Andrea but if ask me Show Was and is just as good. He has gotten more shafted by Vince cause knows he will play ball and help new talent.

Camo

04-17-16, 11:07 PM

Big Show above Dean? Wow Big Show was probably the most boring wrestler ever except a few other big men like Viscera.

NedStark09

04-17-16, 11:18 PM

Would have liked dean more if well he would have smiled more a bit and well he was good in the ring but was boring on mic and in personality.

Camo

04-17-16, 11:23 PM

Big Show was boring in the ring, personality wise and on the mic in WCW and WWE. Dean is better, no brainer.

Marlon Brando

04-18-16, 12:13 AM

Bray can't catch a break can he? Hope it's not too serious.

Raw was actually pretty good this Monday. They got a killer midcard right now.

TONGO

04-18-16, 12:16 AM

Viscera.

Oh what a horrible blast from the past! He was the fattest most overrated sloppiest mess.....he made Hakeem look like a gymnast. Viscera hurt more workers unintentionally cause he couldnt manage his own fat moving around.

Camo

04-18-16, 12:19 AM

Bam Bam Bigelow was the best big man in the ring :D

TONGO

04-18-16, 12:22 AM

Bam Bam Bigelow was the best big man in the ring :D

Bam Bam was da man! When in his prime he was like a 300 lbs cat in that ring. Guys loved working with Bam. Even guys that didnt get along with him respected him.

Naisy

04-18-16, 12:28 AM

I'm against the majority on this one. I think Big Show is really underrated as a performer of his size. Naturally he has gotten a lot slower with his age in recent years but early on he was a powerhouse. He was the measuring stick for strength. If you could perform your finisher on Big Show you could perform it on anyone. Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Goldberg. People never cut sick bigger then when these guys picked up the Big Show. I lost it when Cena agree his character is awful from terrible booking and flip flopping heel and face but overall he has always put in 100% for the company. He has been put in some terrible celebrity matches at mania over the years but he takes it all and seems like a genuine good bloke.

NedStark09

04-18-16, 02:04 AM

Yeah Kevin Nash almost killed The Big Show cause he couldnt lift him up. Nash Ofcourse Blames Big Show for the botch but its clear that He told people he could lift Big Show when he only could kinda.

NedStark09

04-19-16, 04:49 PM

I bet The Bullet Club is new Athority enforcers and we are gonna get a Bullet Club Feud with The Shield Reforming for a short Time Too Fight Them.

Naisy

04-20-16, 10:20 PM

That would be pretty awesome.

NedStark09

04-21-16, 11:12 AM

Remembering g Joanie better known as chyna as she was found dead rip.9th wonder of the world. Somewhere hhh is. Very sad and Stephanie will not get why.

TONGO

04-21-16, 01:00 PM

RIP Chyna

True fact, pro-wrestling (or sports entertainment) has a higher mortality rate than the movie and music industry. Too much juice, too many painkillers, too many days on the road, and just too physically demanding to be performing as often as they do. The wear and tear is such that the effects become permanent, and too many die young.

False Writer

04-21-16, 02:28 PM

TONGO

04-21-16, 02:43 PM

Agreed TONGO, it's crazy how many wrestlers die young. Less than a month before Chyna two ECW wrestlers, Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney, passed away and both were in their 40s also.

Wrestlers get so little respect but they're the ones that get their bodies torn up more than any other athlete in any sport. They have to try to maintain there image while also dealing with the constant pain of performing 300 matches a year.

RIP Chyna.

It seemed like it all started with Brian Pillman, and then got progressively worse from there. I was following the business thru Dave Meltzers Wrestling Observer, it was the only true definitive honest news what goes on behind the scenes in the business. It still is the #1 source on the industry, but there are many copycats out since.

After Chris Benoit though, I was done. Benoit was just so respected and revered worldwide inside the industry, Benoit was to pro-wrestling like Ted Williams was to baseball, the best. Then that happened.....I was done following the business. To depressing to enjoy when you realize the true price thats being paid.

Of course these are the workers from Hulk Hogan till the end of the Attitude era, will Seth Rollins be alive in 20 years or Cena? I dont see normal physiques, they still work them to death, and I dont know how itll be any different.

NedStark09

04-21-16, 02:59 PM

Roddy Piper and Dusty Rhodes died this year too. I wait any day to hear Ric Flair kicking the bucket. Its a shame Chyna will not get in the hall of fame while she was alive. all because Stephanie wouldnt allow it.

NedStark09

04-24-16, 03:38 AM

5 Chris Jericho
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/StratusfactionX0X0/mensfitness.jpg

Not sure what is about canadian Wrestlers but they sure can have good matches and Jericho has had some amazing wrestlers.He is third best mic talker after The Rock and Stone Cold.

mistique

04-24-16, 04:19 AM

My two favorite wrestlers are:

Kane
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/e/ec/1997-1999.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120622184806

&

The Undertaker
http://www.empiresports.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/empire-sports-the-undertaker-dead-wwe-vince-mcmahon-death.jpg

Camo

04-24-16, 04:25 AM

Why? I think they are two of the more interesting/entertaining big men but it is pretty nuts finding those two the best.

mistique

04-24-16, 04:28 AM

Why? I think they are two of the more interesting/entertaining big men but it is pretty nuts finding those two the best.

I think there are a different between saying someone is the best, and saying these are my personal favorites... and yes as you said they are interesting and entertaining. I haven't watched that much wrestling again, and I don't have a channel to watch it on, so I'm choosing my personal favorites out of the ones I've seen.

Camo

04-24-16, 04:29 AM

Sorry i meant why are they your favourites?

mistique

04-24-16, 04:38 AM

Sorry i meant why are they your favourites?

I think for me the attraction is their personas. I can't say anything about their wrestling style, and whatever you would call it. I think I enjoy the scary element to it - with Kane being huge and wearing a mask, just looking kind of scary. So yeah I prefer him in the outfit I posted, and not as he looks here:
http://cdn3-www.wrestlezone.com/assets/uploads/2009/12/file_185231_1_kane-e1416042377508.jpg

The Undertaker is just a cool, scary goth dude.

So as you can tell for me it's all about the persona they are portraying.

NedStark09

04-24-16, 04:39 AM

Its there ora but Vince ruined Kane with taking off his mask.Kane's best matches was first blood match for the belt with Austin and his inferno match with taker.

Naisy

04-25-16, 10:34 PM

I don't think anyone can genuinely argue that Undertaker should be high if not top of the list in terms of greatest ever. Kane however while a good character has never been great in the ring even his best matches are only good and they rely so heavily on gimmicks. He would never have a main event worthy one on one match without a stipulation.

NedStark09

04-26-16, 12:27 PM

He was a good foil For The Undertaker but i also gotta say the first time he was unmasked kane was probably his best work as a vile heel when he tombstone Linda McMahon and hooked up Shane McMahons balls too a car battery.

Naisy

04-26-16, 10:38 PM

Which is where I agree as a character he was fantastic, savage and certainly proven to be able to have a long term story development but as a wrestler he certainly isn't on the same level as The Undertaker. The worst match I have ever seen was Kane Vrs Khali. There was a kickout which could not have looked worse. I have rolled over in bed while sleeping with more intensity.

NedStark09

04-27-16, 01:10 PM

Number 4 Of My Top 10 WCW Wrestlers

Diamond Dallas Page
http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr127/K4PGFX/DDP.png

All I got too say is Vince Better Put DDP in the HOF if he can put in a Bum like Scott Hall and The worst tag team The Bushwackers.

NedStark09

04-28-16, 12:44 PM

Pay Per view Payback is on this weekend But can see It On The WWE Network for 9.99 As well as the Stone Cold Podcast and many past wwe best moments. Its ok if dont mind watching things on your Laptop of Desk Computer.

On Sundays Card.

Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles for WWE Heavyweight Championship.
Cersaro vs The Miz for The IC Championship.
Sami Zyan vs Kevin Owens.
Dean Ambrose vs Chris Jericho.
Charlotte vs Natalya with Flair and Bret in each corner.
Enzo and Cass vs The Vaudevillians. Number One Contenders Match.

Camo

04-28-16, 12:47 PM

Never liked DDP. Razor Ramon>DDP for me easily.

NedStark09

04-29-16, 02:36 AM

Some people dont like him and thats ok. Razor was good in his prime. I just think others deserved in the hall before Razor is all.

Naisy

04-29-16, 06:33 AM

I have a lot of respect for DDP, simply for him never letting his age be a barrier for one. Gotta say I'm also a fan of the diamond cutter. Razor was a better character but I would say I find DDP better to watch but thats just personal preference. Who is on the Stone Cold Podcast this weekend? I'm looking forward to checking out Camp WWE

NedStark09

04-29-16, 06:26 PM

DDP is the reason Jake The Snake Roberts and Hall cleaned up enough too make the hall of fame and kick drugs long enough.

TONGO

04-29-16, 06:46 PM

Yeah Dallas Page is one of those guys who was a better man than a star. In Foleys autobiography there were some truly hilarious stories how he & Austin would mess with Dallas. If you havent read Mick Foleys autobiography it is a MUST READ :yup:

Found a wrestling injury vid, that Sid Vicous fall makes me turn away everytime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WaDvzM49UQ

Camo

04-29-16, 08:22 PM

TONGO

04-29-16, 08:37 PM

Heres a gorey true story about Sabu....

Back almost 20 years ago in the ECW days Sabu was in a Idk three way match or something, and trash cans and baseball bats and a table on its back (legs up) are laying in the ring. I read about this so my details are sketchy, but trust me this is true. So Sabu goes to the top turnbuckle, and is gonna do a splash onto someone laying in the ring.

So he goes to jump, and right then another wrestler hit the top rope, unintentionally jarring Sabu and knocked him off course for his splash. Sabu goes from the top turnbuckle, and his face hits the table leg sticking up, rips thru his cheek which is dangling from his face......get this, he finished the match.

Back in the locker room after the match Heyman was freaking out, Tommy Dreamer too, and was insisting to Sabu that he take an ambulance ride to the hospital. Now heres the good part - Sabu wouldnt, didnt want to spend the money, and super glued his cheek back together right in front of all of them in the locker room. That is a true story. :yup: Sabus defending logic was that super glue was originally invented as a wartime way to close wounds, which actually is true.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Sabu_in_ECW.jpg/520px-Sabu_in_ECW.jpg

Camo

04-29-16, 08:46 PM

TONGO

04-29-16, 09:04 PM

Awesome story TONGO :up:. Please keep these up in this thread i'll listen to and love everyone of them.

The first time i saw Sabu in action he instantly became my favourite wrestler, only lasted a few weeks but i always took him as a believable world champion in the same mold as Rey Misterio who i just couldn't suspend disbelief enough to imagine him beating any of the top guys, if it was under dirty circumstances like Eddie Guerrero's character was supposed to be then fair enough but 100 pound Luchadore consistently beats the 200+ guys is just hard to swallow especially since the bigger guys have to work with him for some moves because he doesn't have the strength to pull it off himself.

Sabu is the nephew of The Sheik. Now The Sheik, that is THE greatest heel in the history of the business. Back in the 50's and 60's the Shiek would come out to the ring, and the fans would run from him. He did the fire breathing stuff and everyone that worked with him would have to juice (get cut, bleed), which scared the holy hell out of the fans seeing their hometown boy getting butchered by this arab.

Its really a tragedy that WWE ignores the Lucha talent. Oh my gosh those guy are magic! Back in WCW when Rey Mysterio first came....most of the guys couldnt believe this little squirt was walking in the locker room and supposed to work with them. There was one guy that knew who Rey was and screamed out for everyone to hear, "See that guy! He can outwork all of us! Come here Rey." It was Scott Steiner, he had already seen Mysterio work. After Reys first match all the boys marked out for him big time, and whenever he wrestled they would all crowd around the monitor backstage to watch. :)

They should have created a Lucha type division and stuck with it. I remember in WCWs camelot NWO years half their show was "cool" NWO, and the other half the "middleweights" where Eddie, Ultimo Dragon, Rey, Juventud, Dean Malenko, etc... and those matches were purely fantastic.

Camo

04-29-16, 09:12 PM

THE greatest heel in the history of the business.

I disagree personally. I think Hogan winning the title off him for the first time has made him more legendary than he should have been, the shah stuff is incredibly dated. So is basically every word he said, i mean i don't find any of it offensive but i do find them embarrasing.

I'll respond to the rest in a minute mate i have to do something, all i'll say is Dean Malenko is a top five wrestler (#2 for me), guy is probably number 1 in the ring ever.

TONGO

04-29-16, 09:16 PM

Dean Malenkos school is in Tampa. He was the main worker behind a small wrestling outfit I helped out with a few times, Suncoast Pro Wrestling. Thats late 80s early 90s before he went to WCW, and made a name for himself. That man could work. He did so many tours in japan, plus his dad was a wrestling legend, fugedaboudit, he was as good as any.

Camo

04-29-16, 10:14 PM

Dissapointing entry mate. Sorry.

Derek Vinyard

05-01-16, 11:58 PM

Camo

05-02-16, 12:02 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CV_--XJ6lQ

NedStark09

05-02-16, 05:09 PM

Terrible ending... Once again Roman Reigns with 5 moves of doom get the victory with a highly predictable Spear and kick out at 2 50 times in the match... AJ Styles deserved that win and I was hoping to see Seth Rollins return at the end but nothing :(
I was hearing the match was allot better then that. But I always thought too honor his cousin that Roman should adapt the Samoan Spike too his move set once and a while and I think if turn him heel he could use it.

NedStark09

05-02-16, 05:22 PM

Best WCW Wrestlers

10 Dean Malenko
9 Harlem Heat
8 Ray Mysterio Jr
7 Ultimo Dragon
6 The Giant
5 Chris Jericho
4 Diamond Dallas Page

3 Chris Benoit
I dont care that wwe wants to forget his name or never put him in the hall because his tragedy. I myself always thought that whole killing his family then himself because of Roid rage seem a convienant way too cover up a mass murder. Either way You cannot deny that Benoit was one of the best wrestlers ever too lace up his boots. didnt matter who you were he made you tap. From Wo Ric and Cactus Jack too HHH for the title.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x310/The_Ultimate_Wrestling_Gallery/Chris%20Benoit/ChrisBenoit016.jpg

Naisy

05-02-16, 09:36 PM

Naisy

05-02-16, 09:39 PM

Terrible ending... Once again Roman Reigns with 5 moves of doom get the victory with a highly predictable Spear and kick out at 2 50 times in the match... AJ Styles deserved that win and I was hoping to see Seth Rollins return at the end but nothing :(

I think it was a solid match but it didn't make sense that after one forearm Reigns is knocked out and can't get back into the ring but after three more and a beat down from the Bullet Club and a bunch more moves he could keep kicking out. Outside of that I knew from the moment the match restarted the first time how it was going to end. It was just a set up for Extreme Rules. I don't think AJ will win but at least it will be an entertaining match and set up Reigns for a full on heel turn.

TONGO

05-02-16, 10:17 PM

Best WCW Wrestler

I dont care that wwe wants to forget his name or never put him in the hall because his tragedy. I myself always thought that whole killing his family then himself because of Roid rage seem a convienant way too cover up a mass murder. Either way You cannot deny that Benoit was one of the best wrestlers ever too lace up his boots. didnt matter who you were he made you tap. From Wo Ric and Cactus Jack too HHH for the title.

Chris Benoit was possibly the best pro-wrestler in the world, purely as an in-ring technician. He wrestled in Mexico, Europe, Australia, Japan, and the USA. He was respected by everyone in the business, worldwide.

He did kill his wife, and then a day later killed his son. This is fact. If there was any foul play it would have been discovered, there is no conspiracy here. The last thing the local police wanted to believe happened, and the evidence was there before them. Kevin Sullivan didnt kill them with a bunch of satanists, yes people have said that :rolleyes:

Benoit had extensive brain damage from taking hard chair shots to the back of his head, and pretty much assortment of trauma from spots or falls. He was the breed that told the other person to hit him for real, yes Im serious, and no thats not how most the guys do it. Besides that he was on an assortmernt of HGH, and painkillers. Nancy Benoit was fearful of him and said so to others weeks leading up to her death. He was hearing voices, and having severe memory loss.

What I believe happened is distasteful, but ...I dont know if makes sense is the right wordage, Ive heard reports they were into bondage, and choking. What could have very likely happened is they were doing that and he got carried away and killed her. Then he panicked and froze. He didnt know what to do, and didnt have the courage to call the police. Either before he killed Nancy, or after, he started drinking HARD. A day later he killed his son, and then he killed himself.

No I dont think the greatest worker in my generation should be in the Hall of Fame. It literally bothers me to say this, he is the greatest shame of the business in my generation too, thats why. Workrate isnt everything man.

False Writer

05-03-16, 12:08 AM

Benoit had extensive brain damage from taking hard chair shots to the back of his head, and pretty much assortment of trauma from spots or falls. He was the breed that told the other person to hit him for real, yes Im serious, and no thats not how most the guys do it. Besides that he was on an assortmernt of HGH, and painkillers. Nancy Benoit was fearful of him and said so to others weeks leading up to her death. He was hearing voices, and having severe memory loss.

And don't forget the diving headbutts he did, which I believe definitely contributed to his head problems. He even did one from on top of a cage vs Angle one time.

NedStark09

05-03-16, 12:24 AM

Benoit was a good wrestler but I think he is hyped up by internet fans that just want to put him in the Hall of Fame because they know it won't happen. People act like him murdering his family is nothing important. I'm part of that old fashioned crowd that thinks murderers should not be celebrated.
Was only meaning talent wise not about his deeds that ended his life. Its a tragic thing its why I am totally against any strength inhancing drugs in any sport.

TONGO

05-03-16, 12:49 AM

Just found out Ric Flair does his own Podcast, Ill be listening to ALL of these :yup:

:flair: WOOOOOOOOOOoooo!!!!!! Nation With Ric Flair

http://www1.play.it/audio/wooooo-nation-with-ric-flair/

NedStark09

05-03-16, 02:26 AM

His Best Ones are with Stone Cold, Mic By God Foley and Kurt Angle.

honeykid

05-03-16, 09:06 AM

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F08%2Fperfect.jpg&f=1
None of these people were as great as this guy.

TONGO

05-03-16, 01:04 PM

His Best Ones are with Stone Cold, Mic By God Foley and Kurt Angle.

I just finished his first episode with Kurt Angle, truly a pleasure to listen to. Whats was funny is it was Flairs first podcasst and he wanted to tell as many stories as Angle. Im gonna go thru all of these in order, though it is temptin to want to hear the ones you mentioned, and a 2 parter with Eric Bischoff :eek: Those 2 loathed each other.

The next one with Dave Meltzer should be complete money. Meltzer is the authority on what has truly taken place in the business behind the scenes for over 30 years. Vince McMahon does not like Dave Meltzer because Meltzer can and has contradicted the way Vince wants to tell history.

NedStark09

05-03-16, 03:03 PM

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F08%2Fperfect.jpg&f=1
None of these people were as great as this guy.
Yes but perfect was a WWF guy before a wcw guy.

honeykid

05-03-16, 04:02 PM

TONGO

05-03-16, 04:07 PM

I don't care what belt he's wearing. The man was fantastic and my favourite wrestler. His Summer Slam bout with Bret Hart was about as good as it gets. He was at his best with Bobby Heenan, though. I loved Bobby Heenan.

They badly need to bring the "managers" back into the business to do the talking for some of these guiys. You know theres another Heenan, Heyman, or Cornette out there, and not all workers have great charismas & gimmicks. It would help the product overall. You think Andre vs Hogan would have made just as much money if Andre had to cut his own promos leading up to it? I dont. Heenan was as awesome a manager as any.

Camo

05-03-16, 04:09 PM

I don't care what belt he's wearing. The man was fantastic and my favourite wrestler. His Summer Slam bout with Bret Hart was about as good as it gets. He was at his best with Bobby Heenan, though. I loved Bobby Heenan.

Perfect is top ten for me too. And Bret is my favourite ever wrestler. That Summerslam match is possibly my favourite ever too.

To the stuff above about Benoit. I agree he doesn't deserve a place in the HOF, i don't really want to go into it because all of that still makes me feel awful. I will say that he is one of the best in the ring i ever saw, and before all of that he was one of my favourites though.

honeykid

05-03-16, 04:11 PM

Heenan was the best. Just unbelievable at working this stuff. He wasn't alone, though, as your post pointed out. Personally, after Heenan, I always liked Slick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIHnQuw898w

TONGO

05-03-16, 04:15 PM

To the stuff above about Benoit. I agree he doesn't deserve a place in the HOF, i don't really want to go into it because all of that still makes me feel awful. I will say that he is one of the best in the ring i ever saw, and before all of that he was one of my favourites though.

Same here.

Really Benoits reward from the business after his death was the 2 hour tribute RAW they ran before the news of how it happened broke. McMahon knew as towards the end of the show he said many people would hear many things in the coming weeks but his accomplishments had to be noted. I think he did it for his own companies closure regarding him. Sadly its happened so much theyve become masters on how to send someone off on RAW after they die. Today when a legend dies, the RAW ratings go up a full point or more from viewers wishing to see the tribute.

TONGO

05-04-16, 03:59 PM

Camo

05-04-16, 04:15 PM

TONGO is safe and happy right now in his embryo of Flair podcast goodness.....WOOOOO!!!!! :yup:

Btw Camo if you want to hear a good interview with Brett Hart go to Austins podcast. Flair has a tendency to start telling better stories than his guests.

My friend keeps telling me to listen to his podcast. Will at some point just haven't found the time.

My top 10 favourite Wrestlers. Some of these are here because i love everything about them, some where just great in the ring, some are because of nostalgia, etc.

01.Bret Hart
02.The Rock
03.Kurt Angle
04.Macho Man
05.Stone Cold
06.Mr.Perfect
07.British Bulldog
08.Ricky Steamboat
09.Triple H (i'm and attitude era kid, despite all of the backstage crap he was possibly my favourite heel)
10.Dean Malenko (would be top 3 if he had more personality and/or a title push. Easily one of the best in the ring ever)

My top three least favourite wrestlers. Meaning important guys not throwaway gimmicks like Gilberg haha, or even mid card awful guys like Viscera.

1.Shawn Michaels
2.Hulk Hogan
3.John Cena

Swan

05-04-16, 04:21 PM

*Flexes muscles*

TONGO

05-04-16, 04:33 PM

My friend keeps telling me to listen to his podcast. Will at some point just haven't found the time.

My top 10 favourite Wrestlers. Some of these are here because i love everything about them, some where just great in the ring, some are because of nostalgia, etc.

01.Bret Hart
02.The Rock
03.Kurt Angle
04.Macho Man
05.Stone Cold
06.Mr.Perfect
07.British Bulldog
08.Ricky Steamboat
09.Triple H (i'm and attitude era kid, despite all of the backstage crap he was possibly my favourite heel)
10.Dean Malenko (would be top 3 if he had more personality and/or a title push. Easily one of the best in the ring ever)

My top three least favourite wrestlers. Meaning important guys not throwaway gimmicks like Gilberg haha, or even mid card awful guys like Viscera.

1.Shawn Michaels
2.Hulk Hogan
3.John Cena

Everyone you listed are not only stars but great workers (except Hogan). Yeah Deans size and absolute lack of personality made it difficult, but he was such an incredible worker he became a star. Thats damn rare in this high charisma sports entertainment world, so the fact he got over in the US besides Japan and Europe is quite amazing.

Steamboat should have been the Shawn Michaels during the Hogan era, but they were too much on size back then in WWF. He was able to play that role in WCW, but only briefly though it was a historic run with Flair. Flair adores Ricky Steamboat. Ive listened to 3 podcasts and he comes up at least once each time.

HHH is quite the man. To be a sober individual in this bizarre business is an accomplishment, and didnt sit on his butt after marrying Stephanie. He earned the respect from everyone legit even though he did get mega pushed. Nobody now though can dispute the respect hes due.

Stone Cold, Flair, and Barry Windham are my 3 all time favs. Yeah Im impressed your top guys are top workers. Many say Goldberg.

Camo

05-04-16, 05:00 PM

Thanks for that. Always been interested in Windham but haven't seen much from him. Same with Flair, i know him from his WCW years up but i know he was at his best in his NWA days (don't make that joke haha) but i haven't seen much of that. Been interested in the Von Erichs who were supposedly pretty amazing as well.

Goldberg? Ugh, he was a gimmick guy, maybe not a gimmick but his undefeated streak was his big thing and it isn't as if that was during the peak of WCW, it was more like the last big thing in WCW. Don't even mention him injuring Bret, in all honesty on Brets dvd he says that Goldberg was a really nice guy and felt awful after it but i still wouldn't have confidence to get in the ring with him. Seemed a bit clumsy and he was mostly used to short matches because his dominant persona called for him to destroy people.

TONGO

05-04-16, 05:08 PM

All the YouTubes and things I read it must have been just awful to be in WCW. Especially if they had already been in the WWE. As a fan watching WCW have Brett Hart, and hardly ever use him....thats unforgivable ineptitude. The right company won that war, and I was more a NWA/WCW guy until the Monday Night War, then Vince turned a page on creative, and things never were the same.

After Kurt Angle won his gold medal in the olympics he personally asked Ric Flair which company he should work for. Flairs face fell and said "Dont even think about going to WCW, theyre idiots. Vince McMahon is the only show in town", and got him in contact with McMahon. Flair was the WCW world champion at the time, that's how bad it must have been there :eek:

Camo

05-04-16, 05:20 PM

After Kurt Angle won his gold medal in the olympics he personally asked Ric Flair which company he should work for. Flairs face fell and said "Dont even think about going to WCW, Vince McMahon is the only show in town", and got him in contact with McMahon. Flair was the WCW world champion at the time, that's how bad it must have been there

Wow that's nuts. Funnily enough i would say WCW was better than WWF in 1996 (when Angle won the medal) but i suppose Flair knew what was happening backstage and in the writers room. WWF/E was unbelievably dull from 93-96 or something, obviously Bret was one of the top guys at that point but i still loved him then and his matches were still among the best in the company during that period. Despite how much i dislike him Shawn Michaels was the only other guy putting on great matches all the time, WCW was just a lot more interesting even though the main guys were mostly recycled WWF guys. Stone Cold really did save the WWF, obviously it is ridiculously wrong to say single handedly but he played a massive part in interest gravitating back to the WWF.

TONGO

05-04-16, 05:41 PM

Wow that's nuts. Funnily enough i would say WCW was better than WWF in 1996 (when Angle won the medal) but i suppose Flair knew what was happening backstage and in the writers room. WWF/E was unbelievably dull from 93-96 or something, obviously Bret was one of the top guys at that point but i still loved him then and his matches were still among the best in the company during that period. Despite how much i dislike him Shawn Michaels was the only other guy putting on great matches all the time, WCW was just a lot more interesting even though the main guys were mostly recycled WWF guys. Stone Cold really did save the WWF, obviously it is ridiculously wrong to say single handedly but he played a massive part in interest gravitating back to the WWF.

Completely agree. What helped was Shawn Michaels making an absolute spectacle of himself in Degeneration X (and in DX beginnings, it was the Shawn Michaels show), and Vince McMahon becoming the greatest heel in the past 20 years. What was amazing still was when The Rock emerged a few years after that. To have 2 stars like Rock & Austin existent in the same company at the same time ....Id never heard of it. Truly it was like having 2 Hulk Hogans for drawing power.

Sigh! I dont think wrestling will ever be that good again, at least not in my lifetime. These guys today are incredible and work their ass off, but theres nothing organic about it. You dont wonder whats real and what isnt. Nobody takes chances, everythings scripted. They take guys with raw charisma and make them read lines, and then that charisma is masked by bad acting. WWE makes money now no matter what because theyre so diversified, but I do miss that sizzle. If another wrestling company were to come out of nowhere and be able to compete with WWE at their level, then I think another surge for the business would come.

Camo

05-04-16, 05:51 PM

Agree with all of that. I think a lot of people got excited for TNA not just because of their content but because of the idea that they may challenge WWE's dominance and force them to improve themselves, obviously they never came anywhere close. I'm not going to comment on what they are doing wrong because i know despite being a massive fan (when it was actually good) i don't know well enough how the company operates like you do.

TONGO

05-04-16, 06:09 PM

They dont have the money to, pure and simple. WWE is massive compared to how big it was in the Monday Night Wars, publicly traded, diversified companies. Dixie Carter may be rich, but I dont think shes billionaire rich.

Bad news. Found out Flair has "terminated his contract" with the podcast a month ago, but the host is hoping he will come back....

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2016/0428/611217/news-on-reports-of-ric-flair-podcast-being-cancelled/

NedStark09

05-07-16, 06:23 AM

TONGO

05-07-16, 10:05 PM

https://twitter.com/SCOTTHALLNWO/status/728967966293958656

TONGO

05-08-16, 01:34 AM

Im listening to some Barry Windham shoot interview Ive never seen before. Barry came up thru Florida in the early 80s and I followed his career from then on. Damn shame he liked to party too much because he would have been the next Ric Flair. Yeah he was really that good. Heres just one of the clips where hes telling a story when Lex Luger got started in Florida too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31OdAFXrzQ

NedStark09

05-08-16, 05:11 PM

Barrys problem was he allied himself with Ric Flair and once you become a flair lacky you can never really shine. Arn If Ask me was the best Wrestler Out Of The 4 Horseman.

Naisy

05-08-16, 11:13 PM

wwe news wwe has just done its annual yearly cleaning and these stars got the boot.

Alex Riley, Damien Sandow, Santino Marella, El Torito, Wade Barret, also Diva Cameron got the boot. One Half of The Funk Chicks is gone.

It's a shame to see Alex Riley get cut, I think he had enormous potential that was never reached and I think he was young enough to still make it given a chance.

The way Sandow was handled especially in the aftermath of the red hot Mizdow run was a massive missed opportunity there. Of all on the list this one is the biggest surprise. WWE just had no idea what to do with him.

Santino was a solid worker but I think he had finished his run. Not many comedy acts have the long lasting career he did and he was genuinely entertaining.

El Torito had no chance, talented but was never going to be a champion, his size was always going to be an issue.

Wade Barrett was on a downward run after they ditched the Bad News gimmick. I can understand him asking for his release.

Cameron I have no idea how she even made it into the company with just her first day on Tough Enough. She clearly improved but had no understanding of the history of the company, nor was her wrestling up to standard ever.

Hornswoggle is a shame to see go but again he had been around a long time and had his time. He clearly loved the company and geez he took some nasty knocks. I thought when he got chock slammed by Undertaker he was dead.

TONGO

05-08-16, 11:21 PM

Hornswoggle got fired?!

NOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!

http://www.dailywrestlingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hornswoggle.jpg

Camo

05-08-16, 11:39 PM

Hornswoggle was still there?

TONGO

05-09-16, 01:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eheDbCCtLxM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZ2hMsshvo

Camo

05-09-16, 01:44 AM

Love what he said about Shawn :up:. Probably my least favourite ever since he was clearly an awful person.

TONGO

05-09-16, 01:57 AM

In his prime, Shawn Michaels was literally one of the best in the world, and a raging jackass. He found God and kept to it, his behavior afterwards was consistently professional, but oy he was awful in his heyday.

Naisy

05-09-16, 02:14 AM

I agree with Tongo. Shawn Michaels has openly discussed what a prick he was and he was awful to work with. He is one of the few people that cleaned up his act and actually committed to it. I would of hated him back in the beginning as well but when he came back was a very very different person but kept all the in ring abilities. Regardless of what you think of the man he was an unbelievable performer.

TONGO

05-09-16, 02:24 PM

Who would have thought the best shoot interview in the business would be with Kevin Nash. This dude is cooler to me now than when he worked. A hilarious road story about him and Scott Hall while in WCW...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_x0oK07E8Q

NedStark09

05-12-16, 09:39 PM

10 Dean Malenko
9 Harlem Heat
8 Ray Mysterio Jr
7 Ultimo Dragon
6 The Giant
5 Chris Jericho
4 Diamond Dallas Page
3 Chris Benoit

2 Eddie Guerrero
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/stonecold18651/EDDIE%20GUERRERO/04.jpg
I was glad that Eddie Got Too be champ in the wwe and while its too bad about his drug problem and him being taken too soon. I am quite sure Eddie and many wrestlers like him had wrecked bodies and drug was that pain release.

TONGO

05-12-16, 11:50 PM

Camo

05-12-16, 11:59 PM

haha. I always loved Shane, some of his matches were really entertaining. Loved his last man standing match with Big Show at a Backlash i think. Really weird seeing him with grey hair.

TONGO

05-13-16, 12:22 AM

haha. I always loved Shane, some of his matches were really entertaining. Loved his last man standing match with Big Show at a Backlash i think. Really weird seeing him with grey hair.

Yeah and it looks funny seeing him with his salt n pepper hair then his Dads hair is all dyed brown. Maybe Vince will do a Hair Club For Men commercial with Emmitt Smith, I know he would.

NedStark09

05-14-16, 02:24 PM

Top WCW Wrestler Is Sting.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x310/The_Ultimate_Wrestling_Gallery/Sting/Sting002.jpg

Some will say where is ric flair or the horseman and too that I view flair more of the NWA fame more then WCW. My Master Top 35 Wrestlers Has Ric Flair but not my WCW. Flair too me is not one stable because that horse was in ever stall. Sting Was the man its just too bad he was brought into wwe as a Jobber for HHH ego and went out a 0 wins and 2 loses . People forget Sting was tagging with Warrior there before went to wcw.

False Writer

05-14-16, 02:32 PM

Sorry if this is old hat to yall, but I stopped watching the product mostly after Benoit, and am blown away by some stuff thats taken place since.

Like this in Detroit when Shane McMahon came back :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Holy McMoley!! Who would have thought they would pop for him like Ric Flair?! This is as big a crowd reaction that Ive ever seen, Hogan would be proud :yup: You can see Shane was blown away by it and teared up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mMyeApQD7Q

Yeah I was watching when it happened and I marked out just as much as the live fans! There were rumors that he was coming back beforehand but actually seeing it was amazing. Shane represents the best times in WWF/E and since he's been back the product has been better... but admittedly not quite as better as I'd like it to be.

TONGO

05-14-16, 02:38 PM

Yeah I was watching when it happened and I marked out just as much as the live fans! There were rumors that he was coming back beforehand but actually seeing it was amazing. Shane represents the best times in WWF/E and since he's been back the product has been better... but admittedly not quite as better as I'd like it to be.

I remember when I was an NWA Dusty Rhodes & The Four Horseman fan, HUGE fan! When it switched to WCW I held onto hope they could return to that Camelot era again, but it never happened. Oh that WCW was brutal awful, much much worse than current WWE product, and then the NWO finally hit.

Right now alot of fans are hoping for the Attitude era to return again. I think when they see Shane they feel maybe something will change. Bottom line - scripts are *****, and if thats the foundation for "Sports Entertainment" instead of pro-wrestling, then sports entertainment is a FAIL.

NedStark09

05-14-16, 04:28 PM

NedStark09

05-14-16, 07:30 PM

Top 40 Wrestlers All Time

40 Brock Lesner

He went too number 40 because all he does now is Suplex or 5 Five people. I miss his old matches when he first was a beast.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/JeffDXFan/WrWrestling/pro_brock.jpg

Naisy

05-16-16, 01:25 AM

Since when do wrestlers gotta be stage actors to be a wrestler. Vader had his eye popped out in a Hanson match and he put it back in and went on with the match. Wwe and these new babies are out months when the air blows on there back too hard.

Bray Wyatt - torn calf muscles

Daniel Bryan - concussions and head injuries over the years leading to a mark on his brain

Cena - Shoulder injury requiring extensive surgery

Neville - broken ankle bones

Seth Rollins - a torn right ACL, MCL and medial meniscu

Tyson Kidd - Injured neck from a botched finisher

That must be a freakin strong wind on their backs! or a hurricane

TONGO

05-16-16, 03:16 AM

Yeah and HHH has come back from I think 2 of the nastiest knee injuries imaginable. Its just not possible for injuries not to occur with everything these guys do. Back in those "good old days" everyone was on some sort of painkiller to get by, and the ones that stayed clean were so few that they get mentioned, HHH is one.

The guys today are as good a workers as any generation, but theyre handicapped by their own companies creative department. It cripples what should be a flawless product, and sadly I think that comes from Vince.

TONGO

05-16-16, 03:33 AM

Actually think about this, back in the OLD days when Flair was in his prime, and the Hogan era....those guys back then didnt do the crazy high flying, ECW butchering, and actual physical risks like they do today. In the Attitude era when the Hardys, and Rey Mysterio came around, they got loaded if they got hurt. Trust me, those guys in ECW were as loaded if not more than the crew from MTVs Jackass.

Today with the WWE wellness policy, the company takes action on drug abuse. Theyre a public company with no competition so theres no gain to ignore it. They have to do all the crazy stunts, and styles overall...more sober. Its truly gutsier on their part now.

NedStark09

05-16-16, 04:03 AM

Lets be clear here I was not talking about real injuries for Cena has had a few nasty ones. Just saying it seems like today some wrestlers get injured very easy. Maybe todays wrestlers just work out too much.

honeykid

05-16-16, 12:44 PM

Brock Lesner has never been any good. One of my least favourite wrestlers. Ever. I'd rather have watched a Kamala match. Hell, I'd rather have watched Vader. :sick:

NedStark09

05-16-16, 05:07 PM

Vader was used up before they started airing Matches popular on tv. Anyone will tell you Vader was as feared as Lesnar was today even more so.

NedStark09

05-16-16, 05:13 PM

39 Honky Tonk Man
Jeff Jarrett like started the art of smashing a guitar over someones skull but no one did it better then the better then the Honky Tonk Man. His guitar smashing over peoples heads was far better then jarretts
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x310/The_Ultimate_Wrestling_Gallery/Honky%20Tonk%20Man/HonkyTonkMan005.jpg

honeykid

05-16-16, 06:30 PM

Vader was used up before they started airing Matches popular on tv. Anyone will tell you Vader was as feared as Lesnar was today even more so.

I don't care about being feared. They both bore me to death. I can't remember ever enjoying a match they were in.

Naisy

05-17-16, 06:12 AM

I don't care about being feared. They both bore me to death. I can't remember ever enjoying a match they were in.

Brock Lesnar before Cena at Summerslam wasn't bad. The Extreme Rules match against John Cena (I think 2009) was good. I enjoyed it but then the Summerslam match set him on the path of unstoppable monster. Now they have built him up so much there is almost noone left that can have a believable match with him and win.

TONGO

05-18-16, 01:36 AM

Heres a wrestling story I hadnt heard when Ric Flair was coming into the business "paying his dues". So these were the good old days? :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcQ7fnKU5AI

NedStark09

05-18-16, 10:26 AM

38 Mick Foleyhttp://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/Dx_iz_raw/121730202896500-2.gif

A wrestlers who gave up his body for the buisness . A true great performer weither he was mankind, dude love or cactus jack.

NedStark09

05-23-16, 08:01 PM

Seth Rollins Returns To Raw Tonight After his Pedigree on Reigns at Extreme Rules last night. Raw Starts At 8pm On USA network.

Naisy

05-25-16, 11:06 PM

Dude spoilers. Some of us are in very different time zones. Luckily I had stayed up to watch Extreme Rules.

NedStark09

05-27-16, 02:04 PM

This New Just In Smackdown will be live shows and move too Tuesday Nights by July 19. There will be a brand split with Raw and Smackdown. Draft Lottery will return and Smackdown will be getting Im hearing its own Champship Belt and Show Case The Intercontinental and Womens Championship belts

Raw will have the Tag Team Titles, Heavyweight Championship and US Championship and There is talk that the Eurpeon or Cruiserweight Titles could return.

NedStark09

05-27-16, 02:10 PM

37 Razor Ramon
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q218/BrandonT56/razor.jpg

I liked his Razor gimmick but he loses slots over the scott hall nwo crap.

TONGO

05-27-16, 02:25 PM

There is talk that the Eurpeon or Cruiserweight Titles could return.

If they bring back the cruiserweight division, and do it correctly i.e. not have them job out to the big guys, than that can be a huge improvement to the product. Huge! :)

honeykid

05-27-16, 05:46 PM

I liked Razor Ramon. :up:

And his toothpick. :D

NedStark09

06-10-16, 01:21 AM

40 Brock Lesner
39 Honky Tonk Man
38 Mick Foley
37 Razor Ramon

36 Van Vader
https://youtu.be/vNEgwtxyfCo

Dont care what anyone else says but This van vader was The First Beast In The Buisness. Yeah Would love for Lesnar too have Wrestled Vader in his prime too show him what a real match is.

TONGO

06-17-16, 11:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SobD560-9ZQ

:laugh:

NedStark09

06-25-16, 09:59 PM

Roman Reigns too be suspended for 30 days but will still be in the pay per view at battle ground against Seth Rollins and the WWE Champion Dean Ambrose.

Camo

06-25-16, 10:03 PM

Why is he suspended? Is it real or a storyline thing? I assume it is real just in case though.

NedStark09

06-26-16, 12:39 AM

Its real he did not pass his yearly exam right which means likely drug related but he is roman reigns the rocks cousin not a smaller wrestler.

TONGO

06-26-16, 12:51 AM

I think you will see the company going a different direction than Roman Reigns from this point. Theyve tried pushing him relentlessly, were patient thru his long injury, and theres little payoff still. Unless youre Bill Goldberg and the entire federations gonna job out to you, it takes more than a look and size to keep the top spot. When they suspend someone for that means the writings on the wall.

Derek Vinyard

06-26-16, 12:59 AM

Glad Dean Ambrose finally got the push he deserved and also glad that Roman Reigns is out for a month I cannot stand him

NedStark09

06-26-16, 01:08 AM

Goldberg is ten times better then Roman is. Atleast Bill could be a monster heel. Goldbergs Your Next worked for him. Goldberg style on the mic was short and too the point. Umega didnt say anything and was great. Pushing a mic in Romans hand for the ladies was a mistake.

teeter_g

06-26-16, 09:37 AM

I wish that they would just turn Reigns heel. I think he could be a good heel.

As an aside what is everyones dream draft?

teeter_g

06-26-16, 09:51 AM

You know what I would LOVE to see? A Kevin Owens/Bray Wyatt angle. I would love to see those guys mix it up.

TONGO

06-26-16, 08:11 PM

I wish that they would just turn Reigns heel. I think he could be a good heel.

He may. The Rock didnt blossom till he turned heel. Now RR isnt the Rock by any means, but something personality wise would be a nice addition to the nothing we get from him now.

You know what I would LOVE to see? A Kevin Owens/Bray Wyatt angle. I would love to see those guys mix it up.

Bray can be this companies next Undertaker. I sure hope they write his angles much better than Takers were. Oh my some of the stupidest campiest angles were the Undertaker storylines over the years. :laugh: True proof that he is unkillable, easily the best gimmick of our generation.

Now Bray can do the spooky thing, he wont spring up unhurt like Taker did (Michael Myers/Jason), but he can talk a whole lot better. They should let him freestyle or hire a true dialogue writer.

NedStark09

06-29-16, 11:13 AM

I am shocked they put the belt on ambrose this soon even if he would drop it too Rollins maybe. Dean can always no say he was Champion and this is early in his career. It kinda no different a way then when CM Punk cashed in on Edge.

NedStark09

07-15-16, 08:18 AM

Smackdown moves too Tuesdays and Raw and Smackdown will have GMs and they will do the Draft on Smackdown Live . Which means certain wrestlers will be on certain shows. I think Cesaro, Styles, Bray and Dean Should go too Smackdown with With Whatever new talent they have and leave Rollins Reigns and Cena on Raw. Id also put Zayn on Smackdown but leave Owens on Raw.

TONGO

07-16-16, 12:53 AM

Brock Lesnar tests positive for banned substance

The UFC announced on Friday that Brock Lesnar has been informed of a potential anti-doping violation by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

The possible positive test stems from an out-of-competition sample that was collected on June 28.

“USADA, the independent administrator of the UFC Anti-Doping Policy, will handle the results management and appropriate adjudication of this case,” the UFC said in a news release. “It is important to note that, under the UFC Anti-Doping Policy, there is a full fair legal review process that is afforded to all athletes before any sanctions are imposed. The Nevada State Athletic Commission also retains jurisdiction over this matter as the sample collection was performed in close proximity to Lesnar’s bout at UFC 200 in Las Vegas.”

The results of the test were received on July 14, five days after Lesnar defeated Mark Hunt in his return to the Octagon.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma/brock-lesnar-tests-positive-for-banned-substance/ar-BBunOLw?li=BBnbfcL

IMO, he probably still had some in his system from being in the WWE. That stuff doesnt clear out quick like youd think it would.

NedStark09

07-16-16, 06:25 PM

I always knew he was roid junky also sources saying Daniel Brian will be Smackdowns GM. Whihc makes since if Shane goes away. Daniel Brian is perfect foil for Hunter, and Stephanie on camera. Wonder who will be Raw GM. My money is on Kane, Or Ric Flair.

Naisy

07-18-16, 08:14 AM

That's a pretty misleading title. "POTENTIAL" doesn't mean positive. He passed three tests just days before the failed one. Can be a false positive. Not saying he is innocent but he hasn't been found guilty yet either.

thegoldenfatty

07-18-16, 09:08 AM

Anybody see TNA's The Final Deletion? That's some of the greatest stuff I've ever seen. The Aftermath was just as brilliant.

TONGO

07-19-16, 05:04 PM

https://twitter.com/alexmartino11/status/755255400463675392

NedStark09

07-19-16, 07:59 PM

Mick Foley The GM OF Raw and Steph picked him is totally weird.

TONGO

07-20-16, 01:12 AM

Found where Flair is doing his new podcasts. :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9nNCE8Mgv6g/V36odM16ulI/AAAAAAAAAHg/DakYlQr2p4U4FJ_Nh10IckqK4j21o8C1wCK4B/s980/BloggerHeader.jpg

http://ricflairshow.com

NedStark09

07-30-16, 06:36 PM

40 Brock Lesnar
39 Honky Tonk Man
38 Mick Foley.
37 Van Vader

36Edge
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/TheRatedRChick/Edge_12.png

Naisy

08-02-16, 10:10 PM

I haven't gotten used to the brand split yet. While I like the rosters, it's weird watching without seeing everyone on both shows.

TONGO

08-03-16, 02:06 PM

Kevin Sullivan, who was a longtime refutted devil worshiper, finally comes clean how it was all a gimmick lol!
Hes talking about late 70s early 80s Florida Championship Wrestling where he started it. Hes referring to Mark, thats Mark Lewin who used to be the "Purple Haze" :laugh:

Oh my gosh, how hilarious - he was role playing the gimmick out in public because it was the Kayfabe era.....,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjkg5ra6E_k

NedStark09

08-09-16, 03:09 PM

Anyone Watch The Stone Cold Pod Cast With Dean Ambrose. It was funny how laid back ambrose was when there is not a match and his easy laid back nature bugged Austin allot. Im guessing Austin has not met enough Football players who are calm until there is game. I think Ambrose is that way.

TONGO

08-09-16, 03:13 PM

NedStark09

08-09-16, 11:46 PM

TONGO

08-09-16, 11:56 PM

I think its was more the fact that he is clean now but he use too use and maybe was trying too avoid answering illegal questions or maybe Austin and older wrestlers hate that some wrestlers are so at easy and dont carry that chip on these shoulder all the time. I dont think ambrose was loaded . I just think he laid back like most people says he is when he is not in a match. I liked that Ambrose said Lesnar does not work a match well.

Its funny that the most legit tough guy in the WWE is the furthest thing from a ring general. He knows how to draw money though, nobody outside of WWE fans know who Ambrose is, and probably never will. Maybe Austin felt the kid was lacking respect, Idk I didnt hear it.

NedStark09

08-10-16, 01:34 PM

I think Austin was a bit floored that Dean and Vince have a good working relationship and they let dean go off script and Dean has some grapefruits too say Brock is a lazy in a match and wants too do certain things.

TONGO

08-19-16, 08:59 PM

Great stories :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgV63F0qm40

TONGO

08-21-16, 07:22 PM

G O L D B E R G
to return to WWE?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6EIcrKBoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pcBq36sRo

TONGO

08-22-16, 07:53 PM

https://twitter.com/WWEonESPN/status/767851511628066818

NedStark09

08-22-16, 08:00 PM

Well he can still be champ because Backlash is a smackdown pay per view. But likely they will do a Bryan and do some rigged match so Rollins will beat whom ever tonight in main event match.

Derek Vinyard

08-30-16, 12:22 AM

http://i.imgur.com/XUhzpZH.jpg

THE KEVIN OWENS SHOW.

QUEBEC IS PROUD.

Best Wrestler.

NedStark09

09-01-16, 04:28 PM

Rumors are circulating that HHH in this story angle will do a deal too get Randy Orton back too Raw with Shane behind Stephanie and current GM s back Mick Foley where he would claim Randy Orton for Cersaro and Neville and a Gimpy Sammy Zayn in a phantom trade at backlash maybe.

NedStark09

09-04-16, 05:32 PM

40 Brock Lesnar.
39 Honky Tonk Man
38 Mick Foley
37 Van Vader
36 Edge

35 Big Show
https://youtu.be/Xxy_C9d-PoI

TONGO

09-04-16, 08:07 PM

I have a very bad feeling about Goldberg coming back to the WWE now. I think theyre gonna do with him with how they used Kurt Angle that one time. :rolleyes: Angle did the job for Russef. Thinking Goldbergs gonna put over Brock (or whoever) and thatll be it.

Personally I hated when Kurt came back just to do a job then leave. Any WWE veteran will tell you the road schedules grueling, and WWE doesnt hand out part-time contracts. Just coming in to put someone over then leave, hell why not? :shrug: Just is deflating as a fan though.

NedStark09

09-04-16, 08:14 PM

Now Kurt Angle vs Goldberg vs Rock vs Lesnar is something Id Pay Too See

TONGO

09-08-16, 12:08 AM

RVDs stock has now skyrocketed with me :rotfl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5-zDyEARY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTCZEA4ctic

TONGO

09-09-16, 11:27 AM

Billy Corgan confirms he’s trying to buy TNA

http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAiFIyI.img?h=574&w=1019&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=838&y=305

Just last month we learned that Smashing Pumpkins founder Billy Corgan had assumed full creative control over Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. That wasn’t long after we learned he was named President, replacing Dixie Carter.
Now, in a Facebook video, he has come right out and confirmed he’s actively attempting to purchase the company.

"It's pretty interesting when the source that's behind this particular story is also the source that once said I couldn't afford to buy the company, which is pretty funny because I'm actively engaged now in trying to buy the company. Take that for what it's worth. I'm not saying I will buy the company, I'm saying I'm trying to buy the company and actively engaged in negotiations to do so. It's a very complicated process. I'm not saying I'll be able to pull it off but I hope to, and I hope to report somewhere down the line here that not only am I running the culture of the company but I'm not actually running the company top to bottom. I hope to make that possible. If not, I'll tell you what happened and why."

Monetary issues have plagued TNA for some time, and there are still lawsuits out against the company that could complicate a potential sale. That’s without mentioning anyone, like Aroluxe, swooping in.

At the very least, this confirms efforts are being made. The promotion has made great strides with is on-screen product and a shake up behind-the-scenes could be yet another step in the right direction.

Stay tuned.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/billy-corgan-confirms-he’s-trying-to-buy-tna/ar-AAiFIyJ?li=BBnb7Kz

The Sci-Fi Slob

09-09-16, 01:11 PM

Corgan must have finally lost his mind.:laugh:

NedStark09

09-09-16, 02:13 PM

No one will beat Vince now unless someone who worked for vince lets say talent and creative deparent came along. Then maybe they could give Vince a minor bead of sweat.

NedStark09

09-09-16, 02:26 PM

40 Brock Lesnar.
39 Honky Tonk Man.
38 Mick Foley.
37 Van Vader.
36 Edge.
35 The Big Show.

34 Big Boss Man
https://youtu.be/8kSsA6kc9vQ

TONGO

09-10-16, 07:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gjTChju74I

TONGO

09-10-16, 07:15 PM

Corgan must have finally lost his mind.:laugh:

If he would or could make some arrangement with New Japan as an interpromotional brand, that would help. He may have celebrity connections to help with drawing, but it really comes down to who he knows in running it.

NedStark09

09-10-16, 07:17 PM

33 The Iron Sheik
https://youtu.be/JZIDXC11uPQ

TONGO

09-11-16, 01:41 PM

Derek Vinyard

09-11-16, 01:56 PM

Whoopsie Daisy!

Ex-wrestling superstar C.M. Punk pounded in UFC debut

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma-ufc/ex-wrestling-superstar-punk-pounded-in-ufc-debut/ar-AAiKHSX?li=BBnb7Kz

They say it was a mismatch going in, maybe UFC making an example of Punk.

Just the fact that he step a foot into the octogon is remarkable. He will always be my favorite wrestler and indeed a guy that I respect for pursuing his dreams

NedStark09

09-11-16, 03:33 PM

I was always certain he would get pummeled and my guess is Vince i paying fighters he faces too beat him so bad he comes begging Vince for a job.

TONGO

09-24-16, 02:17 PM

Ex-WWE star Kurt Angle took 65 Vicodin in a day while battling addiction

http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBwyWGe.img?h=574&w=1019&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f

Former WWE star Kurt Angle told Dan Le Batard Show that he knew his painkiller addiction was getting bad when he took “65 extra-strength Vicodin a day.”
“I was on a lot -- there was no way I couldn't get out of it,” Angle said. “The only thing I could do was eventually go to rehab and try to fix my life again. But I actually beat it on my own. I stayed in my house for about 10 days and didn't leave, and I was able to get through the withdrawal.”

Angle battled his addiction to the painkiller as he recovered from an injury to his cervical vertebrae at the 1996 U.S. national trials, which also required Novocaine injections in his neck to compete. He later started taking Xanax to cope with stress. Angle took gold at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta in freestyle wrestling.

Angle was also troubled out of sports as he was charged with four DUIs over five years before checking into rehab in 2013. Angle says he has been clean over the last three years.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/ex-wwe-star-kurt-angle-took-65-vicodin-in-a-day-while-battling-addiction/ar-BBwyUjr?li=BBnb7Kz

Wow! :eek: That was more than what Louie Spicolli and Brian Pillman were up to even...

NedStark09

09-24-16, 02:28 PM

WWE Has too give this man a shot if they forgave Warrior and Roberts. But they need too do while he can still do a few big Pay Per View matches not like broken down sting

TONGO

09-24-16, 02:54 PM

WWE Has too give this man a shot if they forgave Warrior and Roberts. But they need too do while he can still do a few big Pay Per View matches not like broken down sting

Kurt Angle needs to walk away from the wrestling ring and not look back. He has 0 to prove to anyone, not even himself. I really would hate to see his story end badly like so many before.

NedStark09

09-24-16, 06:07 PM

This Man needs too be in the Hall Of Fame . He beat, Rock, Lesnar, Austin and anyone else in the buisness but cant get in the Hall. They let Scott Hall in and he is broken worse then anyone.

TONGO

10-04-16, 04:36 PM

Billy Corgan: "Nothing you or God can do to stop" Vince McMahon from buying TNA

With the impending sale of TNA Impact Wrestling and the status of Sunday's Bound For Glory pay-per-view card still unresolved, minority owner and creative lead Billy Corgan is hoping for a miracle.

Corgan, the iconic frontman of The Smashing Pumpkins who joined TNA in 2015 and was later elevated to president in August, was a guest on The Dan Le Batard Show on Thursday.

"We have been in the same situation the last three times we have done this and we have had a 'Music City Miracle' three times in a row, so I am kind of counting on a fourth one," Corgan said. "I don't expect anybody is going to do anything too ridiculous to make sure that [Sunday's PPV] doesn't happen. It would put a lot of people out of work."

Corgan has been forced to personally finance the past three rounds of TV tapings at the last minute as TNA continues to face financial trouble. He is hoping to resolve that issue with a new vision for the company, provided he can purchase it from Dixie Carter, who had previously run TNA since 2003.

There remain multiple suitors at the negotiating table, however, with Corgan acknowledging rumors that industry-leading WWE is among the potential buyers. So how does one go about winning a bidding war against Vince McMahon?

"Well you don't, and I think that's the simplest part of the equation," Corgan said. "If Mr. McMahon wants to buy the company, there is nothing you or God can do to stop him. So there's that. But outside of that, which as of this moment that has not happened or doesn't appear to be happening, I think I would know because I have a piece of the company and so I would have to be informed of that -- or at least would hope to be informed of that."

Corgan calls the current negotiations "a serious fight" for who is going to end up with majority ownership, saying, "Everybody has got the gun out and no one seems to know what to do."

While Corgan has a large vision for the future, he admits it's just a lot of talk unless he can gather the proper resources.

"I think you need consistent capital, that has been a plague of the company for a long time," Corgan said. "You don't have a consistent resource so you can't make consistent decisions."

TNA champion Bobby Lashley, who is scheduled to headline Sunday's PPV card against Ethan Carter III, told ESPN.com on Thursday he has a backup plan in place regarding his travel should the card get cancelled. But, as of now, his plane ticket to Orlando, Florida, is still valid.

"As far as I know, I'm supposed to be doing a match Sunday and if anything changes up until then, it's no big deal," said Lashley. "I want to be wrestling and I want TNA to stay alive because it has been a great program for me up to this point."

http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/17670577/billy-corgan-acknowledges-wwe-potential-buyers-tna-impact-wrestling

TONGO

10-18-16, 09:59 AM

G O L D B E R G
to return to WWE?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6EIcrKBoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pcBq36sRo

Toldja so :yup:

TONGO

10-27-16, 11:05 AM

Of all the workers that live in Florida, why the Undertakers house?! :facepalm: :rolleyes: :nope:

Foolish Mortals Toilet-Paper the Undertaker's House

While the Dead Man and his wife were attending a charity race, some heels TP-ed their home. There will be hell to pay

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/foolish-mortals-toilet-paper-the-undertakers-house-20150928

TONGO

11-30-16, 02:25 PM

Possibly the most intelligent and unexpected booking decision the WWE has made in years took place in having Goldberg squash Brock Lesnar at the Survivor Series. Taker would be proud, and these 2 now will make a nice chunk of money going forward for the months to come.

Paul Heyman showing why the old school pro-wrestlers still can deliver a line better than todays Sports Entertainers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx64b7o6WWc

Naisy

12-19-16, 09:23 PM

Yeah I loved it. It was a complete swerve. It got people talking and no one predicted it.

7thson

12-20-16, 08:26 PM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ed/48/bb/ed48bb7468d1585ffa9aaafbda76d1e6.jpg

Used to see him and Flair - among others, here at the Bayfront Auditorium in Pensacola.

Great stuff and they all actually stayed and signed autographs and talked to the fans after the show. Well except maybe Flair , he was too :cool breeze" for that.

TONGO

01-05-17, 01:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQpfsJ6cAeY

:flair:

Camo

01-15-17, 06:10 PM

Jimmy Snuka died :(

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-superfly-snuka-has-passed-away-family-reports-201832708.html

Really liked the small amount of matches i saw with him. RIP

jiraffejustin

01-15-17, 06:54 PM

Didn't he recently get cleared of a murder charge or something?

Camo

01-15-17, 06:56 PM

Oh dang. I hadn't heard about that.

Snuka was indicted and arrested in September 2015 on third-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges, in relation to the May 1983 death of his girlfriend, Nancy Argentino, who died from injuries a coroner described as consistent with domestic violence. In the decades before the criminal charges, Argentino's suspected homicide was a cold case in which Snuka was the only suspect. Snuka pleaded not guilty,[7][8] but was ultimately found unfit to stand trial in June 2016 due to being diagnosed with dementia.[9] His health had further declined, and in December 2016 his legal representative announced he had 6 months left to live due to his terminal illness.[10] The charges were dismissed on January 3, 2017, when Snuka was deemed unfit to stand trial. He died twelve days later.

TONGO

01-18-17, 06:00 PM

Yeah, Snuka and Benoit are gonna be in my file labeled "Best ever that wont ever be mentioned" because of that. Snuka was coked up during his crime.
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Could you all imagine if the Big Show were to get a shredded physique? Well thats exactly what hes working on now. He has a match vs Shaq at Wrestlemania 33

http://b.fssta.com/uploads/2017/01/1-5.vadapt.767.high.0.jpg

http://www.foxsports.com/wwe/gallery/wwes-big-show-working-six-pack-011517

TONGO

01-18-17, 06:02 PM

WorldFilmGeek

02-10-17, 12:03 PM

The Rock n Roll Express are entering the WWE Hall of Fame. They along with Kurt Angle are the only confirmed names so far.

Samoa Joe joined the RAW roster this week and won his match against Roman Reigns after interference from Braun Strowman, who distracted Reigns for Joe to unleash The Destroyer on him.

jiraffejustin

02-12-17, 02:36 PM

Joe would have been cool to be on the roster about 13 years ago.

WorldFilmGeek

01-24-18, 03:15 PM

Enzo Amore has been released from WWE. There is an investigation from an alleged rape in October 2017 and while he hasn't been found guilty, he failed to let WWE know of the investigation and he has had a bad rep for bringing heat backstage. This was the final straw so after being suspended on Sunday, WWE fired him on Monday before Raw 25.

Amore was the WWE Cruiserweight Champion when he was fired but the fate of the title will be determined next week when the show 205 Live will get a new General Manager.

Here are the Top 10 Moments from WWE from their 25th Anniversary Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHV3DB0i9TU

John W Constantine

06-07-23, 10:33 PM

RIP Iron Sheik

Backlund's sanity never recovered from losing to you and WcW learned to always double check when contracts roll over while a wrestler was sitting at home.

John W Constantine

09-02-23, 10:06 PM

That crowd in Chicago will probably be dead tomorrow night

Wyldesyde19

09-02-23, 10:22 PM

I have a mad crush on Iyo Sky, and possibly Shotzi. Maybe Asuka as well.

StuSmallz

09-04-23, 03:02 AM

https://youtu.be/-8skMLoLi9I?si=fOD4qf4p7GIGtOH8

Dead2009

11-22-23, 07:47 PM

Are we allowed to mention other wrestling promotions in here or does it strictly have to be WWE.

Wyldesyde19

11-22-23, 07:49 PM

I have a crush on Iyo Sky, Xia Ali, Dakota Kai and Kairi Sane

John W Constantine

11-26-23, 03:04 PM

Like Mussolini...

https://youtu.be/H1MBYsVamBQ?si=P22hCOnPeogmdyWy

Wyldesyde19

11-26-23, 03:37 PM

The cancer is back. Despite his reputation, some of it deserved, CM Punk is still a top draw. It was a good decision for WWE.

John W Constantine

11-26-23, 04:00 PM

I'm just excited for the promos.

John W Constantine

11-27-23, 01:15 PM

I know there's a chance all this goes up in flames but I haven't been this excited for raw in years. These next four months to Mania could be so good with the guys involved.

Dead2009

12-15-23, 10:36 PM

WWE Reportedly Tapes New ‘WWE Speed’ Concept Before Smackdown
https://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-tapes-wwe-speed-concept-smackdown/

Dead2009

02-04-24, 01:48 PM

Who's checking out NXT Vengeance Day tonight?

John W Constantine

02-04-24, 02:01 PM

I know there's a chance all this goes up in flames but I haven't been this excited for raw in years. These next four months to Mania could be so good with the guys involved.
This aged well enough.

John W Constantine

02-09-24, 03:53 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bret-hart-zero-respect-vince-143218945.html

Vince screwed Vince.

Dead2009

02-24-24, 10:13 AM

NJPW New Beginning In Sapporo Results 2.24.24

* Frontier Zone: Toru Yano & Tomoya def. Katsuya Murashima & Tomoaki Honma

* Boltin Oleg, YOH, Togi Makabe, El Desperado & Shota Umino def. EVIL, SHO, Ren Narita, Dick Togo & Yujiro Takahashi

* YOH stole the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship.

* A vignette aired for Jack Perry.

* Kazuchika Okada, Toru Yano, YOSHI-HASHI, Hirooki Goto & Tomohiro Ishii def. Callum Newman, Jeff Cobb, Matt Riddle, Great-O-Khan & Francesco Akira. Okada thanks the fans after the match.

* El Phantasmo & Hikuleo def. Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa

* Nic Nemeth & Ryusuke Taguchi def. David Finlay & Gedo. Nemeth agreed to defend his newly-in IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship against Hiroshi Tanahashi.

* BUSHI def. TAKA Michinoku

* DOUKI def. Hiromu Takahashi

* Taichi def. Shingo Takagi

* Hair vs. Hair Match: Yota Tsuji def. Yuya Uemura

* IWGP World Heavyweight Championship Match: Tetsuya Naito def. SANADA. Naito and Okada ended the show together.

TNA No Surrender Results

TNA World Title #1 Contendership Match
Eric Young defeats Frankie Kazarian (9:23)

:::: Not enough votes for total rating. ::::
TNA World Tag Team Title Best Of Three Series Match #3
ABC (Ace Austin & Chris Bey) (c) [2] defeat Grizzled Young Vets (James Drake & Zack Gibson) [1] (17:48)

:::: Not eligible for the matchguide: match length < 5 minutes. ::::
Singles Match
PCO defeats Kon by DQ (3:49)

:::: Not enough votes for total rating. ::::
TNA Knockouts World Tag Team Title Match
MK Ultra (Killer Kelly & Masha Slamovich) defeat Decay (Havok & Rosemary) (c) (7:27) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

:::: Not enough votes for total rating. ::::
Singles Match
Josh Alexander defeats Simon Gotch (16:43)

:::: Not enough votes for total rating. ::::
TNA World Title No Surrender Rules Match
Moose (w/Alisha Edwards, Brian Myers & Eddie Edwards) (c) defeats Alex Shelley (w/Kevin Knight & KUSHIDA) (20:07)

:::: Not enough votes for total rating. ::::
TNA Knockouts World Title Match
Jordynne Grace (c) defeats Gisele Shaw (10:38)

:::: Not enough votes for total rating. ::::
TNA X-Division Title Match
Mustafa Ali defeats Chris Sabin (c) (19:37) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

WWE Elimination Chamber results

WWE Women's World Title #1 Contendership Elimination Chamber Match
Becky Lynch defeats Bianca Belair and Liv Morgan and Naomi and Raquel Rodriguez and Tiffany Stratton (32:15)
- Tiffany Stratton eliminates Naomi (13:30)
- Liv Morgan eliminates Tiffany Stratton (22:55)
- Bianca Belair eliminates Raquel Rodriguez (25:05)
- Bianca Belair eliminates Liv Morgan (32:10)
- Becky Lynch eliminates Bianca Belair

:::: Matchguide Rating: 8.39 based on 27 votes. ::::
WWE RAW Tag Team Title / WWE SmackDown Tag Team Title Match
The Judgment Day (Damian Priest & Finn Balor) (c) defeat New Catch Republic (Pete Dunne & Tyler Bate) (17:45)

:::: Matchguide Rating: 7.65 based on 25 votes. ::::
WWE World Heavyweight Title #1 Contendership Elimination Chamber Match
Drew McIntyre defeats Bobby Lashley and Kevin Owens and LA Knight and Logan Paul and Randy Orton (36:53)

:::: Matchguide Rating: 6.71 based on 13 votes. ::::
WWE Women's World Title Match
Rhea Ripley (c) defeats Nia Jax (14:25)

TONGO

02-25-24, 01:40 PM

Caught some highlights from the Elimination Chamber last night, everything looked strong. Definitely WWE is surging more now since the Attitude Era, and overall I believe will be a better product. We may not get another singular star in par with Austin or Rock, but the roster is more stacked with talent now than ANY federation could ever say, ever.

When Vince got completely removed from any aspect of the business, the change seemed immediate. His vision made the WWE, but also made it stagnant. He was listening to himself more than the fans, and it seems his ego went to much darker levels besides. This is the worst scandal since Benoit, and im equally as horrified, and disappointed.

Looking forward to what comes next. I believe HHH is the perfect choice to replace Vince, even though he's his son in law. HHH and Stephanie were trying to keep Vince out of the company long before this all came out, and most likely it was Stephanie McMahon that leaked everything to the Wall Street Journal. Cody Rhodes would be an excellent champion to represent the company now as I fear more horrors have yet to be revealed.

Anyone wanting a true insight to what goes on in the American Wrestling Industry should listen to the Jim Cornette clips on YouTube, or his 2 podcasts. Jim has a brilliant wrestling mind, been in the business 40 years, is hilarious, and completely politically incorrect.