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Optimus
03-22-16, 08:45 AM
Heart goes out to all the victims,and the friends and family of those lost today in the Brussels terrorist attacks. Truly shocking that these attacks just keep happening and innocent people are caught up in it all.

-KhaN-
03-22-16, 09:37 AM
Happened in Turkey two times in last week... Shocking stuff.

The Rodent
03-22-16, 09:48 AM
The news summed it up perfectly with these attacks... ISIS are no longer targeting places of importance for instance Parliament or the HQ of the EU... they're targeting regular places now where the public are to cause "disruption" rather than actual economic disaster.


The problem is, is that authorities are bowing to this mentality.
They've shut down all air travel, trains, busses, taxis... ISIS bombed 3 small targets, and have shut down the entire infrastructure of Brussels. ISIS have basically won.


The f*cking p*ssies in government need to keep everything open and running. Don't stop all public transport, don't shut all the schools, don't shut down all the roads... show these disgusting pigs that we will not bow to their false God.

honeykid
03-22-16, 11:43 AM
Terrorism almost always targets soft targets. That's why it's so effective. How many times did the IRA target government targets over the decades? How many times high streets, pubs, etc? How many times has an embassy been attacked in the middle east over the last 15 years? How many times have you heard the phrase "a bomb went off in a market in Iraq today" over the last 15 years?

I'm with you though, Rodent. You don't bow to these people. You have to shut it down to check it's safe, but you open it up immediately and you, as a citizen, go and use it. ISIS haven't won because ISIS is barely a speck on the radar. But that speck is constantly under a microscope. That's not to say they're not dangerous or bad or anything. But when I hear people comparing them to the Nazis (which I have several times, both IRL and on TV) it makes me smile and wonder which it is? Are the Nazis so passe now that this passes as a similar threat? Or that this is so magnified that people genuinely think they're there with the Nazis?

matt72582
03-22-16, 11:55 AM
With 8 billion people on Earth, it only takes one person who can ruin the lives of many, and instill fear into the masses.

ashdoc
03-22-16, 11:57 AM
http://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/ISIS-supporters-on-social-media-celebrate-lethal-Brussels-bombings-448776#article=6024MzM5OEMyRDU5RUE4N0QwRkEyMTc4RTFGOTY2Nzg2QUU=

ISIS supporters celebrate on social media.

ashdoc
03-22-16, 12:52 PM
If these attacks keep on happening then trump has a good chance :D

Captain Steel
03-22-16, 01:37 PM
If these attacks keep on happening then trump has a good chance :D

It has been the political correctness, apologism and outright denial that has empowered and emboldened these Islamic terrorists.

In the U.S. we have a President who, after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, declared that the future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam (the exact same message of the terrorists who carried out that mass murder)! Shortly after that attack Obama condemned Christianity by bringing up the Crusades and Inquisition of many centuries ago. Just unbelievable. How any President could make such comments in response to Islamic Terrorism (praising the terrorists' motives and condemning Christians) and remain in power is beyond fathoming.

He's told us there is a 65 country coalition to destroy ISIS, (that's 3 times as many countries as won WWII). Yet 50 of those countries can't even be named because the whole thing is a lie. So far this "coalition" has done little more than carry out "display bombings" on some empty buildings & vehicles.

Even the mighty Putin has made no headway in crippling ISIS (not that he tried, as Russian forces were more concerned with propping up the Asaad regime & killing rebels rather than destroying ISIS). Now he's pulling his forces out of Syria.

It's become quite obvious that people in power are profiting from ISIS in some way, because if nearly three quarters of the entire planet's militaries had truly combined to destroy ISIS, then they would have been decimated in a matter of weeks, a long time ago. Somebody wants them to continue, otherwise they would've been stopped.

For Americans, a vote for Hillary is a vote to bring more ISIS terrorists into the U.S. because she wants to bring hundreds of thousands of refugees here who have already been infiltrated by ISIS. And the Islamic State terrorists have already announced that they are embedded among the Syrian refugees and intend to come here to carry out more San Bernardino-style attacks just as they, along with sleeper-terrorists in France, carried out the Paris attacks.

Citizen Rules
03-22-16, 01:55 PM
If I could rep you 100 times for your post Captain I would. Well said. I'm shocked to learn that Obama said this:

we have a President who, after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, declared that the future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam I truly believe we have a president who despises mainstream America and is only pretending to be a Christian. I put some of the blame for the rise of ISIS on Obama. It boggles the mind that the President would make a Jihadist type statement like that. What sad times we live in:(

ashdoc
03-22-16, 02:08 PM
trump's typical reaction to the brussels attacks---

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Brussels-a-disaster-city-Donald-Trump-says-after-attacks/articleshow/51516964.cms

mark f
03-22-16, 02:09 PM
Here's (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obamafuture.asp) the full story about what Obama said.

TONGO
03-22-16, 02:10 PM
You never see these terrorist groups attacking a police station, theyd actually shoot back. They are uninspiring loudmouthed cowards. They dont even have demands or a goal. Theyre just pathetic, and I hope they dont get away with it.

Citizen Rules
03-22-16, 02:16 PM
You never see these terrorist groups attacking a police station, theyd actually shoot back. They are uninspiring loudmouthed cowards. They dont even have demands or a goal. Theyre just pathetic, and I hope they dont get away with it. I agree they're pathetic. But they do have a goal, to spread an Islamic state and to cripple the western world.

Captain Steel
03-22-16, 02:20 PM
If I could rep you 100 times for your post Captain I would. Well said. I'm shocked to learn that Obama said this:
I truly believe we have a president who despises mainstream America and is only pretending to be a Christian. I put some of the blame for the rise of ISIS on Obama. It boggles the mind that the President would make a Jihadist type statement like that. What sad times we live in:(

He said this in front of the United Nations no less - as a direct response to the attack!
He publicly reinforced, restated and openly supported the very reason the Islamic Terrorists murdered 12 innocent people at the Charlie Hebdo magazine.

With his words, he justified the terrorists actions and condemned the victims for exercising their rights of free speech. How else can it be interpreted when he literally decreed that the future "must not belong" to those who exercise free speech about Islam? He was extolling the exact same irrational & intolerant ideology that the terrorists used as their motive to kill.

P.S. It was recounting this moment in history that got me permanently banned from the eBay Community boards. Apparently their moderation team feels it's against their rules to simply state something that can easily be found in news articles or on YouTube with a simple search. Not kidding. Quoting Obama got me "banned for life" according to the eBay moderation team (a.k.a. "Lithium").

mark f
03-22-16, 02:28 PM
Here (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/) is a list of the 60+ countries supposedly working against ISIS.

I feel bad for the families and loved ones of today's and all the terrorist's victims. Hopefully something can be done about these terrorists, but as I've said before, we are now in a never-ending war. :(

ashdoc
03-22-16, 02:31 PM
i shudder to think what will happen if by chance a nuke falls into the hands of the crazies :(

Captain Steel
03-22-16, 02:33 PM
Here's (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obamafuture.asp) the full story about what Obama said.

The context is only slightly mitigating. Maybe he should get better speech writers who make it a point not to reinforce the messages of the terrorists as public decrees made by the President of the United States. (Talk about an ISIS recruiting tool!)

Obama's pattern of subtly supporting the Islamic ideology, while deflecting blame for terrorist attacks onto their victims or unverified catalysts that are known to be completely untrue, and trying to always establish moral equivalency by bringing up other religions (i.e. engaging in apologism) is well documented.

Deflection, finding justifications & rationalizations, and trying to make comparisons to groups that have nothing to do with the issue are three standard tactics in the apologist handbook!

It's a pattern, just like his pattern of racism (where he's jumped to prejudiced conclusions based on the skin colors of people involved before even hearing the facts), that has occurred again and again. A single occasion you can let slide as a slip, but when it happens again and again, it displays a pattern of thought.

Captain Steel
03-22-16, 03:19 PM
Here (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/) is a list of the 60+ countries supposedly working against ISIS.

I feel bad for the families and loved ones of today's and all the terrorist's victims. Hopefully something can be done about these terrorists, but as I've said before, we are now in a never-ending war. :(

Thanks for the link. I've been looking for this list for a while.

Here's why...

Initially the Obama admin. stated there was a "60 plus" country coalition to destroy ISIS. When asked what the "plus" means, they could only answer that more than 60 were giving support (which still begs the question what "plus" means? Is it 61, 62, 169? What the hell does "plus" mean? And what does "support" mean? Military support? Financial support? Moral support? Support in the form of platitudes and "Hey, you go get 'em! Call us when you get back!" statements?)

So then they changed it to 65. (So which were the 5 countries that previously could only be called "plus"? And why call them "plus" if they were an active part of the coalition?)

When Obama spokesmouth Josh Earnest was asked to provide a list of the countries and exactly what their participation was, he said they could not.

The real crux of the matter is what, exactly, is the role of all these countries (again, 3 times as many as it took to win a World War) in this alleged global commitment to destroy ISIS? That's what they can't say.

As said earlier, it could logically be concluded that if just the Arab League alone or NATO alone contributed military and material support, then ISIS could be dispatched rather quickly, no less than with 65 countries committing their military power to the effort. But that has not happened. After two years of an alleged 65 country coalition taking the fight to ISIS, there is no end in sight and ISIS continues to expand in recruitment, area and power.

We know roughly about a dozen countries have actually engaged in military action or support (which, according to some, is extremely limited, restrained and done only for show by attacking unoccupied targets or with fore-warning.)

Some have said that a country simply making a public condemnation of ISIS atrocities (and who's not going to condemn mass murder?) gets them on the coalition list of "65."

But making a verbal condemnation or saying you support those who've said they will fight ISIS is a far far cry from actually DOING anything.

Thus, the reports of this alleged "65 Country Coalition" is dubious since the roles of all of its participants apparently cannot be fully documented AND (even more telling is the fact that) it has supposedly been fighting a global-level war for 2 years with nearly 3/4 of the world's military might at its disposal against a comparatively small band of terrorists in a comparatively isolated region with very little results.

Again, just want to make the point, that a third of this many nations utterly defeated the Axis powers (that had already established strongholds & taken much of Europe, upper Africa, Asia and the Pacific) in under four years!

Logic dictates that 7 decades later, with three-times the amount of nations, with modern weaponry... 65 countries could utterly defeat some rat-bag terrorists holed up in a couple countries. That is, IF there are actually 65 countries that are actually COMMITTED to doing what we've been told they are committed to doing. (Apparently, either logic no longer applies or we're being lied to.)

christine
03-22-16, 04:36 PM
Again, just want to make the point, that a third of this many nations utterly defeated the Axis powers (that had already established strongholds & taken much of Europe, upper Africa, Asia and the Pacific) in under four years!

Logic dictates that 7 decades later, with three-times the amount of nations, with modern weaponry... 65 countries could utterly defeat some rat-bag terrorists holed up in a couple countries. That is, IF there are actually 65 countries that are actually COMMITTED to doing what we've been told they are committed to doing. (Apparently, either logic no longer applies or we're being lied to.)

Logic doesn't come into it. It's a completely different world to 1939-45. We had hundreds of people working on deciphering codes in messages back then, now anyone can contact anyone else from the middle of a desert to the middle of a city. This is guerilla warfare not a national war and almost every nation has suffered in some way from guerilla war.
The Belgians had rooted out a cell of 30 people a few days before today, they were expecting 10 or so now this looks like another cell altogether. These might be rat bag terrorists but sophistication in planning and weapons and communication is no longer only the domain of government departments.

The immigrants that are being shuttled around Europe are running from the terrorists themselves. They're the ones that have been affected the most, losing their relatives, their homes, their country. They are the ones that hate ISIS the most, they've lost the most and are now seeking stability for their families. If we can find some way of dealing with this in a humanitarian way then we can build a future where we don't have a core of disaffected people who are the breeding ground of resentment and unrest. This is the source of terrorism.

Attacking your own president seems a bit of a sideline. The more publicity ISIS gets the more they're going to celebrate being the centre of the news.

Derek Vinyard
03-22-16, 04:49 PM
Shocking... my faith is humanity is dead a long time ago

Humans are stupid

#PrayForBruxelles

Slappydavis
03-22-16, 06:23 PM
He said this in front of the United Nations no less - as a direct response to the attack!
He publicly reinforced, restated and openly supported the very reason the Islamic Terrorists murdered 12 innocent people at the Charlie Hebdo magazine.

With his words, he justified the terrorists actions and condemned the victims for exercising their rights of free speech. How else can it be interpreted when he literally decreed that the future "must not belong" to those who exercise free speech about Islam? He was extolling the exact same irrational & intolerant ideology that the terrorists used as their motive to kill.

Quick question: are you are implying that the quote you are referencing came after the Charlie Hebdo attacks?

mark f
03-22-16, 06:30 PM
He does whenever he refers to it, but my post shows it was made three years earlier.

christine
03-22-16, 06:42 PM
He does whenever he refers to it, but my post shows it was made three years earlier.

Yes I read your link there Mark and realised Obama said that in 2012. Three years before the attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices. In these fast moving times it's easy to criticise in retrospect. Attacking your own president today for a speech he made four years ago advocating peace seems harsh.

Captain Steel
03-22-16, 10:07 PM
Logic doesn't come into it. It's a completely different world to 1939-45. We had hundreds of people working on deciphering codes in messages back then, now anyone can contact anyone else from the middle of a desert to the middle of a city. This is guerilla warfare not a national war and almost every nation has suffered in some way from guerilla war.
The Belgians had rooted out a cell of 30 people a few days before today, they were expecting 10 or so now this looks like another cell altogether. These might be rat bag terrorists but sophistication in planning and weapons and communication is no longer only the domain of government departments.

The immigrants that are being shuttled around Europe are running from the terrorists themselves. They're the ones that have been affected the most, losing their relatives, their homes, their country. They are the ones that hate ISIS the most, they've lost the most and are now seeking stability for their families. If we can find some way of dealing with this in a humanitarian way then we can build a future where we don't have a core of disaffected people who are the breeding ground of resentment and unrest. This is the source of terrorism.

Attacking your own president seems a bit of a sideline. The more publicity ISIS gets the more they're going to celebrate being the centre of the news.


Good points about modern communication. It does change the layout when it comes to global Islamic Terrorism.

BUT, aside from ISIS cells in other countries and lone wolves, we know where ISIS is. Seems like 65 of the Earth's nations, with the most powerful militaries on the planet, in a combined multi-lateral effort, moving from all directions toward the centers of Syria and Iraq for TWO YEARS could have and would have eradicated ISIS a long time ago - that's if this "coalition" really wanted to. It's quite obvious they don't want to (or there really is no 65-nation-strong coalition, or the few countries that actually ARE doing anything do not want to do what is necessary because it would be politically unpopular.).

P.S. Why did the President of France call for a coalition of nations be formed to destroy ISIS after the Paris attacks when the Obama admin. told us there was already a 60 plus nation coalition formed two years prior which included France? Something doesn't make sense.

Captain Steel
03-22-16, 10:46 PM
Quick question: are you are implying that the quote you are referencing came after the Charlie Hebdo attacks?

I will eat some crow and admit I was wrong.

I was under the impression this statement occurred after the Charlie Hebdo attack because the speech was aired by various media outlets shortly after the attacks. Like many, I thought this was being aired because it was a response to the attacks given by Obama to the U.N.

Apparently, the speech was only thought relevant and worthy of revisiting because of the attack, and Obama's words now seemed prescient in hindsight.

From what I read, he was referencing the YouTube video that his administration first blamed the Benghazi attacks on (while they knew it had nothing to do with the event) when he spoke of slandering the prophet of Islam.

So I must withdraw the accusation that he reinforced or restated the ideology that drove the terrorists in the C. Hebdo attack.

Rather, he simply stated the Islamic ideology (which also mandates that criticizing the prophet is punishable by death) and may have inadvertently inspired the terrorists who attacked C. Hebdo, or possibly provided them a sense of legitimacy or justification for their plan by reminding the world of the edicts of Radical Islam.

neiba
03-23-16, 07:34 AM
Are you people serious???

ISIS is NOT Islam! Obama said that to prevent violence against real Muslims who seek the peace as much anyone else and don't kill anyone who criticizes their prophet...

Islam is as violent as Christianity, Budhism or any other religion... It's the people who are bad and good, and finding an enemy in every Muslim is exactly what these terrorists wants...

matt72582
03-23-16, 07:59 AM
Are you people serious???

ISIS is NOT Islam! Obama said that to prevent violence against real Muslims who seek the peace as much anyone else and don't kill anyone who criticizes their prophet...

Islam is as violent as Christianity, Budhism or any other religion... It's the people who are bad and good, and finding an enemy in every Muslim is exactly what these terrorists wants...

Neiba, have you ever seen an ISIS member drink a glass of water?

Captain Steel
03-23-16, 12:45 PM
Are you people serious???

ISIS is NOT Islam! Obama said that to prevent violence against real Muslims who seek the peace as much anyone else and don't kill anyone who criticizes their prophet...

Islam is as violent as Christianity, Budhism or any other religion... It's the people who are bad and good, and finding an enemy in every Muslim is exactly what these terrorists wants...

Indeed ISIS does not represent all of Islam or all Muslims.

ISIS, like many Islamic Terrorist groups, is a fundamentalist faction within Islam.

We use terms like "radical" or "extremist," and to most of us with a rational intellect, terrorism seems radical & extreme. But a more accurate description of what Islamic Terrorists practice is a fundamental or literal application of their religion. And the religion is not just a faith in the supernatural, but it is a cultural socio-political ideology that thoroughly embraces the concepts of theocratic totalitarianism, conquest and earthly supremacy via the genocide of everyone who will not submit.

Fundamentalist Islam takes the edicts of the Koran literally. It follows the examples set by their prophet as Muslims are taught they should. (It's a very good thing that most Muslims do not follow the example of their prophet who engaged in mass murder, beheadings, assassination, slavery, rape, torture, conquest, forced subjugation, and pedophilia).

The foundational basis of Islam (its scriptures, its history, its political contingents, its teachings both ancient & modern, the example of its prophet, etc.) is one of intolerance and violence. So a fundamentalist of such an ideology is going to embrace those things. It is the only "religion" that claims to have a divine authorization from God that each believer has the divine right to take it upon themselves as their individual duty on Earth to kill anyone who will not bow to their self-proclaimed supremacy.

If anything, moderate or peaceful Muslims are not practicing an orthodox or fundamental interpretation of what Islam is, the example of their prophet they are instructed to follow, and what it literally teaches, (thank Allah!)

neiba
03-23-16, 01:03 PM
Indeed ISIS does not represent all of Islam or all Muslims.

ISIS, like many Islamic Terrorist groups, is a fundamentalist faction within Islam.

We use terms like "radical" or "extremist," and to most of us with a rational intellect, terrorism seems radical & extreme. But a more accurate description of what Islamic Terrorists practice is a fundamental or literal application of their religion. And the religion is not just a faith in the supernatural, but it is a cultural socio-political ideology that thoroughly embraces the concepts of theocratic totalitarianism, conquest and earthly supremacy via the genocide of everyone who will not submit.

Fundamentalist Islam takes the edicts of the Koran literally. It follows the examples set by their prophet as Muslims are taught they should. (It's a very good thing that most Muslims do not follow the example of their prophet who engaged in mass murder, beheadings, assassination, slavery, rape, torture, conquest, forced subjugation, and pedophilia).

The foundational basis of Islam (its scriptures, its history, its political contingents, its teachings both ancient & modern, the example of its prophet, etc.) is one of intolerance and violence. So a fundamentalist of such an ideology is going to embrace those things. It is the only "religion" that claims to have a divine authorization from God that each believer has the divine right to take it upon themselves as their individual duty on Earth to kill anyone who will not bow to their self-proclaimed supremacy.

If anything, moderate or peaceful Muslims are not practicing an orthodox or fundamental interpretation of what Islam is, the example of their prophet they are instructed to follow, and what it literally teaches, (thank Allah!)

Try to apply the Old Testament to our days and you'll see how many people die!
Islam is not a violent religion, there are no violent religions. What is written in Quran made sense at that time, Mohammed was a soldier. The moderate or peaceful Muslims practice a religion adapted to our days as every Christian does.

So, stop blaming Islam or Allah for the stupidity of some people...

And I'm an Atheist...

Captain Steel
03-23-16, 01:22 PM
Try to apply the Old Testament to our days and you'll see how many people die!
Islam is not a violent religion, there are no violent religions. What is written in Quran made sense at that time, Mohammed was a soldier. The moderate or peaceful Muslims practice a religion adapted to our days as every Christian does.

So, stop blaming Islam or Allah for the stupidity of some people...

And I'm an Atheist...

I can't blame Allah since I don't know that any such entity exists - I'm Agnostic.

Your point about the Old Testament is valid - it is quite violent. The big difference between Judaism and Islam is that Judaism has no standing edict from God that instructs the Jews to subjugate or kill non-believers in establishing supremacy of their religion. Judaism seeks neither converts, subjects or piles of dead infidels.

To say Islam is not a violent religion sounds a bit naive. One needs only read its scriptures, look at the life that its followers are instructed to emulate, and look at its history. It has always been violent because it is founded on an ideology of intolerance and violence.

It's true that moderate Muslims practice a religion adapted to our days (that's a great way to coexist in peace). But you can't compare adapting a religion with basic tenets of "kill the infidel" to modern times to the religion of Christianity which has no dogma whatsoever based on killing non-believers.

Christianity (as far as tenets) is quite simple - there are only a few:
The first two I don't really agree with (which is why I dropped out). Being: the only way to salvation is Jesus Christ, and the Great Commission (spreading the word).
The rest doesn't need to be adapted to any time because they are simply this: The Golden Rule, love your enemies, forgive, place spiritual matters over material possessions, practice mercy & compassion, and love each other.

It boggles me when people try to compare the tenets of a religious faith that says forgive and love each other to a theocratic political ideology that instructs subjugation and killing non-believers.

honeykid
03-25-16, 12:32 PM
Brussels attacks: Man arrested in Schaerbeek police raid

Belgian police have arrested a man in a raid in the capital Brussels in connection with recent terror attacks in the city.

The man, carrying a backpack, was shot in Schaerbeek district after refusing to obey police orders, media say. Explosions were also heard.

Ten other suspects have been held in Belgium, Germany and France.

Police are trying to prevent further attacks after Tuesday's Brussels bombings.

An investigation is continuing into the bombings, which killed 31 people and have been linked to November's Paris attacks.

The Belgian prosecutor has named another of the suicide bombers at Brussels airport as Najim Laachraoui.

So-called Islamic State (IS) has said it carried out both sets of attacks.

An area near Schaerbeek's Meiser square was sealed off by heavily armed police and military vehicles on Friday.

At least three explosions were reported. Bomb disposal personnel and robots were at the scene.

The operation is now said to have finished.

Schaerbeek mayor Bernard Clerfayt said a man had been arrested and shot in the leg.

Eyewitnesses reported seeing a man who had emerged from an underpass armed with a machine gun being shot in the legs by police.

A local resident, named as Marios, also described gunfire.

"I heard two very loud shots," he told the BBC.

"Immediately within seconds police arrived... The streets were evacuated..."

Schaerbeek is one of the districts where arrests were carried out on Thursday. French police sources say the latest raid was also linked to Thursday evening's operation in a Paris suburb during which another attack was apparently foiled.

'Je suis Bruxellois'

US Secretary of State John Kerry, visiting Brussels, said that IS would be destroyed.

Standing alongside Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel, he expressed condolences for the victims and solidarity with Belgium, declaring "Je suis Bruxellois".

The Western alliance would continue its fight to destroy IS, Mr Kerry said.

"We will not be intimidated. We will not be deterred."

Details of further arrests have been emerging:
◾ Brussels: Six detained in the Schaerbeek and Jette districts, and the city centre. Media reports seventh suspect seized in the Forest district.
◾ Paris: Reda Kriket, 34, arrested in Paris' north-western Argenteuil suburb, alleged to be in the "advanced stage" of plotting an attack. 2015 Brussels court conviction for IS recruitment, along with Paris attacks ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud.
◾ Germany: Two suspected jihadists detained in Dusseldorf and Giessen areas on Wednesday and Thursday - both with suspected links to one of the Brussels bombers, Der Spiegel reports, and one with suspicious text messages on his mobile phone referencing Brussels.

More details of those killed in the Brussels attacks have been released. Nationals of 40 countries were caught up in the attacks.

Among the deaths confirmed so far:
◾Three Dutch citizens
◾Two Americans
◾One Briton, David Dixon
◾One Chinese national

The Brussels bombings continue to have political repercussions, with questions surrounding the issue of whether more could have been done to prevent them.

Turkey has said it arrested and deported one of the bombers, Brahim el-Bakraoui last June, warning Belgium he was a "foreign fighter" - but the message was "ignored". The Dutch authorities had also been alerted, Ankara said.

Bakraoui is one of three men who carried out the bombings at Brussels airport, killing 11 people.

The Belgian interior and justice ministers said they had offered their resignations but the prime minister refused to accept them.

The other two airport attackers have not yet been identified. Bakraoui's brother, Khalid, struck at Maelbeek metro station, where 20 people died.

There are reports of a second suspect being sought for that attack. One source told AFP news agency that a man with a large bag had been seen beside Khalid el-Bakraoui on surveillance footage at the metro station.

Meanwhile, the Flemish-language public broadcaster VRT reported that investigators were working on the assumption that the cell had been planning a far bigger attack, involving Paris-style shootings as well as suicide bombings.

Links have also emerged with Salah Abdeslam, a suspect in the Paris attacks.

Abdeslam was arrested and wounded in a police raid on a flat in Brussels last Friday - four days before the attacks in the Belgian capital.

Investigators say Khalid el-Bakraoui used a false name to rent the same flat.

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/10831/production/_88933676_paris_brussels_connections_in_depth_624-4.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35899353

Mr Minio
03-25-16, 03:00 PM
With 8 billion people on Earth, it only takes one person who can ruin the lives of many, and instill fear into the masses. I'm afraid it's not only one person in this case. Breivik was that one person and he killed some people, then was caught and the slaughter ended. With Muslims it's different, it's not a single psycho, it's a doctrine, a great power with thousands of psychos and millions of potential ones.
ISIS is NOT Islam! All ISIS members are Muslims. It is Islam in its most fearful form. I guess what you meant to say is "Not all Islam is ISIS" and that indeed is true, but a potential Muslim is much more prone to become a terrorist than, say, a Christian. It's not really that they do all these attacks on their own. There's a great web of connections. One word of Abdullah or Imam with his finger upwards is enough for a lot of them to forget about ANYTHING and go postal. They don't really care about their lives. It doesn't mean anything to them, because if they kill an infidel, a beautiful heaven awaits them with virgins and what not. Read Quran. It openly calls to kill infidels and states infidels are inferior.
Islam is as violent as Christianity, Budhism or any other religion. Tell me how many attacks by Muslims were executed in the last 10 years and how many by Christians or Buddhists? Of course Christianity had its crusades, but firstly it was almost one thousand years ago and secondly Islam also had its "crusade". However, they were stopped by Charles Martel in The Battle of Poitiers in 732. Back then French had balls to actually stop them. Right now they don't and Muslims themselves changed their strategy. Now they want to destroy France (and other countries of Europe) from the inside. Same goes for the so-called refugees that flooded Europe. Let me tell you, if you are a refugee from Syria, you go to any of the countries Syria has borders with. That is Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan or Israel. If you go beyond these you are not a refugee no more, you're an immigrant to the country you want to go to. Look up the photos of Muslims storming Europe. Do they look to you like poor people fleeing from war or simply a legion of Arabs? Not only that. The majority of them are men. Look what they do on the borders. They've been given food, they threw it away. They don't want food, they want something else. What do they want? I'm leaving that to your imagination. Look up "hegira". They're not coming here to work honestly and assimilate with us, Europeans. They come here to colonize us. To crush our culture and impose Sharia law on us. Either we convert to Islam or die as infidels. There's no such word as "tolerance" in Islam.

What's probably even scarier than the Brussels Attack itself is the fact that the participants were Europeans. Belgians. Born in Belgium. That's even scarier. It shows that Islam doesn't even recognize nations. It recognizes religions. That's why this war is a religious war. In Brussels 1/4 of all citizens are Muslims! In Paris it's 15%. How big will this number be in 10 years? In 20? I guess at least 60%.and that's already a majority and an opportunity to actually take violent means to increase this to 100%. The liberal European countries who took them Muslims 20 years ago as cheap labor will now pay for this mistake.

I realize my post may be crude. I of course know that there are Muslims who are good people, who'd rather die themselves than make anybody else suffer. They really do exist. Not even that. The majority of Muslims are normal people like us! Sure, of course! I'm not denying that! However, if there was a group of 50 men and one of them was a killer, would you let a person chosen randomly from this group sleep in your house? If your answer is yes, then have fun seeing your whole family getting butchered. That the possibility is not that high? Sure, the possibility of you dying in a car accident is much higher than the possibility of you dying in a bomb attack, or from the hands of a psycho killer, but does it mean we should release all murderers from prisons, because "well, the possibility ain't that high, man!".