The thread of crap

[shooot.em.down.]

we so need a thread that is full of crap here, so here we go:cool:

ah, i love it.

sooo..

full of absolute CRAP!!

anyone else's life here like a soapie??

[Sir Toose]

In mocking respect for the late Clara Peller...

"Where's the Crap?"

If you're gonna start a thread about it then the onus is on you to fling the first poo.

So sling it, or this thread is histoire.

[nebbit]

Oh! Poo what is that smell. :eek:

[Sir Toose]

It seems our new friend can't back his sh*t up.


:D

[Austruck]

We don't need a thread like this here. We have Django's posts for that sort of thing.

[Sir Toose]

What sort of thing?




:modest:

[Revenge of Mr M]

Some crap:

I see your point about the aftermath of Pearl Harbor and the analogy with Japan and Germany. Good point. There are differences between Pearl Harbor and 9/11, though, and my concern is: are those differences sufficient to tip the balance in favor of outright colonialism, as opposed to mere isolationism? Here is the summary of the differences:

1) During WWII, the US was not involved in a unilateral invasion of the invading power. Rather, the US became involved in an already ongoing war, which it had attempted, thus far, to stay out of. The Japanese invasion was a part of an ongoing war in Eurasia, which brought the US into the ball game. The US then joined the Allied forces to stem the tide of Eurasian fascist imperialism. On the other hand, 9/11 was a unilateral terrorist attack carried out by a terrorist organization of religious zealots or fanatics, not an invasion by a nation. Furthermore, The US military response to 9/11 has been unilateral and, far from an international coalition of allies, the US has been targeted with international criticism, which it has chosen to ignore.

2) The casualties suffered as a result of 9/11 have scarred the American psyche far more deeply than those of Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was a naval base in Hawaii--the casualties were military casualties and the site of the attack was relatively far removed. 9/11 took place in the US heartland, so to speak--Manhattan island, NYC. The casualties were civilian and far outnumbered those of Pearl Harbor. Naturally, this would result in a much greater psychological impact on the population of the USA--enough of an impact to alter the popular mindset in favor of a policy of colonialist imperialism? That remains to be seen. (I take the risk of sounding unsympathetic here--I'm just trying to be objective and I apologize to readers who might feel offended by my words).

3) To make a strict analogy with the aftermath of Pearl Harbor, the US should have restricted their military reprisal to Afghanistan--the only nation with a direct, proven connection with Al Quaeda. I completely supported the US invasion of Afghanistan and the toppling of the Taliban regime--partly because it was completely justified and partly because my own country of origin, India, benefited tremendously from the removal of the Afghan terrorist base, as India has suffered tremendously from Al Quaeda terrorism as well. What I OBJECT to, though, is an ongoing military campaign, with no end in sight, against the so-called "Axis of Evil"--a fictitious conspiracy of nations who have allegedly been linked with 9/11. This is an obvious fabrication on the part of the US administration to justify an ongoing international war that stands to be enormously profitable to certain concerned parties, most esp. the arms industry, the Bechtel group, the oil industry, and others who would benefit from such a policy of semi-colonialism. It's one thing to destroy the terrorist set-up directly responsible for 9/11 (which I totally support) and another thing to begin this ongoing policy of militarism against pretty much anyone one happens to disagree with. That strikes me as approaching colonialism and imperialism. Iraq is the first nation to have been attacked under this new policy of "aggressive isolationism", which looks, to me, a lot like colonialist imperialism. Who's next in line? Remains to be seen.

Finally, a point related to your points regarding the British and the Romans. Firstly, neither the British nor the Romans exterminated the population they conquered. Rather, they enslaved them by a process that they considered to be "civilizing the barbarians". They eradicated the culture of the enslaved nations and introduced their own culture and institutions into the conquered societies, remodelling them in their own image, so to speak. This definitely has its merits, but it is the essence of imperialism. They also harnessed the human resources of the conquered nations to feed their own imperialist machinery. That's one of the reasons they were able to keep the machinery going and keep it profitable. And another thing, both the Romans and the British were able to achieve a decisive military edge thanks, primarily, to technology. Their technology might not have been as advanced as ours, but it was technology that made their armies invincible. The Romans had their catapults, battering rams, etc., while the British had the Industrial Revolution--steam trains, sophisticated weaponry (for the time), etc. Moreover, the German Nazi war machine, which was, again, imperialist in nature because it was about the brutal conquest of sovereign nations, was even more explicitly centered around technology, most especially the Panzers or tanks, aircraft and the V2 missile technology (which didn't quite get off the ground, from what I understand). Thus imperialism and colonialism is definitely strongly connected with technology, which gives a nation a military edge. The Soviets, too, were primarily driven by their technological prowess, though they had a territorial advantage and superior numbers. However, the ultimate failure of the Soviet Empire was primarily linked to a failure in their technology, which was connected with economic failure. The Chernobyl disaster, which preceded the collapse of the Soviet system, is a clear example of the failure of Soviet technology.

As to whether Americans will realize that a colonialist policy will result in an increase of terrorism--maybe they figure that colonialist imperialism will increase their control over potential terrorist nations and, thereby, reduce the possibility of terrorism. Whether or not this is true, I don't know. But it does boil down to an ethical and diplomatic issue. My concern is--where do you draw the line. The US is certainly justified in invading and siezing control of a nation that poses an imminent threat to their security. My concern is: what constitutes such an imminent threat? The Bush administration argued that Iraq posed such an imminent threat owing to weapons of mass destruction. Critics argued that even if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, it did not pose an imminent threat to US security. And, thus far, the Bush administration has yet to prove that Saddam Hussein's regime possessed any weapons of mass destruction at all. Again, if Bush can convincingly prove that his invasion of Iraq was justified because Iraq posed a significant imminent threat to US security and interests, I would support his action against Iraq. The mere toppling of a brutal dictator is not sufficient grounds to intervene in the affairs of a sovereign nation, because that amounts to a colonialist, as opposed to isolationist, agenda.

Again--if Iraq DID pose a significant imminent threat to US security and interests, and can be proven to have done so, the invasion of Iraq is justified. If NOT, then it amounts to colonialism, pure and simple. Maybe not explicitly so, but colonialism nonetheless. That's my point, in summation.

[Austruck]

That's not just "some crap." That's a whole sh*tload of crap. So to speak.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Here, I'll leave you some.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You can even wear crap jewelry, like our friend Betty White, who's modeling a pair of crap earrings and a crap necklace. Only $29.95 for both when you call QVC.

[Django]

Originally posted by Revenge of Mr M
Some crap:
You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.

[Sir Toose]

Originally posted by Django

You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.

That's Crap!

;)

[Caitlyn]

Originally posted by Sir Toose


That's Crap!

;)


:laugh:

[Django]

Originally posted by Sir Toose


That's Crap!

;)

No, that's crap! :D :p

[nebbit]

Well Today was a fun day I was cleaning crap from the bottom, of my nephews Baby, who I care for each Friday, now that is crap :yup: :eek:

[shooot.em.down.]

sorry i accidently threw myself off a veranda and ended up f*ckin up my arm, in hospital for about a week and now i cant move it and its screwed for life..
sorry bout that..

[nebbit]

Originally posted by shooot.em.down.
sorry i accidently threw myself off a veranda and ended up f*ckin up my arm, in hospital for about a week and now i cant move it and its screwed for life..
sorry bout that..

Now that is crappy :yup:

[shooot.em.down.]

truly it is:yup:

i would have started it a bit better too, but i wont go into all the crappy details of how screwed up my life was at that point of time..

so shoot me;)

[LordSlaytan]

Originally posted by shooot.em.down.
so shoot me;)

It'll cost ya', but if you're determined...

(Too bad about your troubles man.)

[nebbit]

Now I understand why you started this thread, very crappy,

I think most peoples lives could read as a soapie, mine does, more like a funny one always some drama but a lot of Laughing.:dizzy: :eek:

[shooot.em.down.]

all i do is laugh. anyone here ever upside down laughed?? its priceless.

yah. it all crap.

i love it.
:yup:

you know what unfair? is how some people are graced with pleasant, damage free lives and then some are so f*cked up it isnt even funny anymore.

[nebbit]

This is crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap..........:love:

[NexijunRodent]

:laugh:

[shooot.em.down.]

absolutely :licklips:

[moviefan20]

you know what unfair? is how some people are graced with pleasant, damage free lives and then some are so f*cked up it isnt even funny anymore.

I agree with that statement.

[NexijunRodent]

:laugh:

[shooot.em.down.]

it was more of an opinion rather than a statement.

[moviefan20]

In that case...I agree with that opinion....:rolleyes:

[NexijunRodent]

:laugh:

[shooot.em.down.]

whateva:cool:

[Sexy Celebrity]

Saw a guest looking at this and thought it should be resurrected.

Look - NexijunRodent - the original Rodent.

[Captain Steel]

Whew! When I saw this thread title I thought one of the Mods had renamed my "List of things" thread!

[Citizen Rules]

And...shooot.em.down, the Ace90 prequel....all the OG homies are here:p

[mistique]

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/c/cc/Grandma_-_What_is_this_i_don't_even.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131109151911

[nebbit]

https://lifeisalabyrinth.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/well-crap-cow-fence.jpg

[Swan]

Do we really need another one of these threads? Haven't we had enough lately?

;)

[Sexy Celebrity]

I just like looking at the computer artwork I made when I was 19 years old:

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=1209&d=1055430844

Betty White wearing a crap necklace and crap earrings.

[Sexy Celebrity]

And that was BEFORE Betty White became such a huge pop culture phenomenon. I was onto something then.

[challanger]

why need a thread for crap talk?? why not just ------- :p