Extreme Music Tournament (caution: ears may bleed)

[Zotis]

Okay, so here are the official rules:
Every round each participant may nominate 4 songs.
Everyone participating will listen to all of the songs and rank them giving 1 point to the lowest ranked song, 2 points to the next song, 3 points to the song after that, and so on.
No one may nominate a song by any band that has already been nominated by anyone else on a first come, first serve basis.
Everyone will have 24 hours per round. Anyone who doesn't submit a list that round or vote that round misses the opportunity.
Anyone can join in at any time, but any submission that does not qualify as "extreme music" by the parameters below will not count.
I'm not going to chase people. If you aren't sure if something qualifies then ask me. If anyone submits something by accident that doesn't qualify and I let them know and they don't change it in time, too bad. Any points people give it won't count.
People only need to give points to the songs they like. You can simply not list anything you don't want to list, but just remember that points go in ascending order so the more you list the more points your top listed songs get too.
Having fun isn't a rule, it's a personal choice. Feel free to not have any fun if you want. :up:
The 24 hours per round starts at midnight.
I will edit this post with the list of songs nominated, and the scores, so keep checking back.
After 8 rounds the 16 songs that were the winner and runner up of each round will be entered into a straight single elimination bracket.
Don't vote for your own nominations.

Preliminary Round 2 Nominations
The Berzerker - Forever (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dqjt-0N-1rs)
Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Ones (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QeeTWX4JB8k)
Black Tongue - Coma (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb5OMOqJRWc)
Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Wlyf2KqDI)
Destruction - Bullets from Hell (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsO6ZW7DFEk)
Earth Crisis - Firestorm (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nn4QsRmm6Y0)
Gospel of the Horns - Vengeance is Mine (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vn8iL4QrCks)
I Ate Everybody - Gather All the Bodies (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EeM-EaL1bg8)
I Hate Sex - I F***ing Hate Sports (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fiULEn0UOZI)
Jungle Rot - Gore Bag (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3su4bwYYQNs)
Kreator - Riot of Violence (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZVlFdk5UU)
Krisuin - Slaying Steel (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEpapUMR_o)
LUST - Spear of Destiny (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7syk7TsQh8A)
Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GHPwnUGj0Q)
Sarcofago - Ready to F*** (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Gbh3XThQk)
Sepultra - To the Wall (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NV1iE50oX-Y)
Suffocation - Pierced from Within (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YepbZ90amLY)
Tortured Squad - Pandemonium (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw3h9LhoSoY)
Vrolok - Within the Masters Chambers (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z-Q391vuRQ)
Xasthur - Storms of Red Revenge part 2 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XS_Mn-xPbp0)



Preliminary Round 1 Nominations
Alexisonfire - Little Girls Pointing and Laughing (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiJcZ2YHgTM)
Bloodbath - So You Die (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkGnhyWN4Yo)
Boris the Blade - Serpents Crown (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7cBOU4dSTn8)
Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsWguQ8gl4)
Carnifex - Dragged Into the Grave (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b1hafyakGXE)
Cursed - The Void (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htNeAEqb-cc)
Death - Painkiller (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=quPliK3eAy4)
Iwrestledabearonce - Corey Feldman Holocaust (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qs6p3iBKw0E)
Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tm11MPNGKFs)
Masters Hammer - Ritual (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3T6WnoNe8)
Nails - In Exodus (https://myoutube.com/watch?v=EZo96Mnjzig)
The Partisan Turbine - Inertia (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9utCoNW-Q2I)
Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ny4gigSW17Y)
Planes Mistaken for Stars - The Past Two (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4_EzWXM_IXw)
Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged, Spit Upon (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtuzWzFvSvM)
Sodom - Cannon Fodder (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDfVXaNcZE)
Thrice - A Subtle Dagger (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmTkVmFvZFA)
Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=op_tjNLj3Ks)
Underoath - Cries of the Past (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvusP-w5TU)
Weapon - Archana (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5r2etrQYI)

Points
295 - AboveTheClouds
280 - Zotis
274 - Gunslinger
183 - Swan
178 - False Writer
152 - Guarporense


I hope that isn't too complicated for people.


First of all I would just like to say thank you to Sexy Celebrity for doing the Metalheads Song Tournament, and so speedily too. You did a great job. With it approaching the final round I think it's a good time to also start this up. I won't be going at as fast a pace as SC, and I have no idea how few entrants we'll have. I heard from 5-6 people who were interested, including myself. We'll see if anyone else joins. I'll be taking applications now, but we also may need to discuss what perimeters exactly the ambiguous term "Extreme Music" is going to have for the purposes of this tournament.

Extreme music is getting progressively heavier these days. So, I'll start with the genres that definitely qualify:

Death Metal
Black Metal (including UnBlack Metal)
Grindcore
Deathcore
Goregrind
Deathgrind
Pornogrind
Powerviolence
Screamo
Sludge
Drone

There are some genres that have some gray area. Some bands from these genres qualify, and some don't. I'll look at bands from these genres on a case-by-case basis:

Metalcore (including Mathcore)
Thrash Metal
Progressive Metal
Symphonic Metal
Hardcore
Crust
Emotive Hardcore
Post-Hardcore
Post-Punk
Post-Rock
Post-Metal
Noise
Doom
Grunge

Genres that some might consider extreme, but that I personally am going to exclude for the purposes of this tournament at least:

Crunkcore
Dubstep (I don't know who might include this, but some people I know seem to think it's pretty extreme)
Heavy Metal


I'm not sure about these genres, so any input is appreciated:

Power Metal
Viking Metal
Pirate Metal
Speed Metal
Nu Metal


I'm sure I've missed a bunch of stuff, so please let me know.

[Swan]

Oh.... I'm so in.

[Zotis]

Also, if anyone knows, is Djent a genre, and if not then what is it a sub-genre of? I did a little googling, and apparently some people think it's a sub-genre of Progressive Metal, but didn't Messhugga start Djent? Then wouldn't that make it a sub-genre of Deathcore? I'm pretty confused by it thus far. I'll continue looking into it, but if anyone who knows a little about it can shed some light on the subject I'd much appreciate it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I won't be doing this. I don't know what to nominate. And I'm getting burned out on Song Tournaments. But Good Luck. It sounds awesome.

[Derek Vinyard]

I'll pass it too.... good tournament !

[AboveTheClouds]

I'm in, but I think sludge should be included because a band like Khanate is extreme AF.

[Zotis]

Alright, I just don't have much familiarity with Sludge so I wasn't sure about it.

[AboveTheClouds]

Crust is pretty heavy too, I was gonna nominate a Doom(The band) song for sure, but I will leave that to your discretion man. Shall we include drone as well?

[Zotis]

I don't know much about Drone. Can you show me something that represents the heavier side of Drone, and something that represents the softer side?

I think the majority of Crust would qualify. Doom (the band) certainly would. I have the impression that there is stuff in the Crust genre that wouldn't qualify. For example, I think the perimeter of Crust that merges with Anacro-Punk may contain bands that wouldn't qualify. I'm not really sure though.

[AboveTheClouds]

I can agree with the Crust/Anarcho deal, that sounds ok.

I don't know if there really is a softer side, but heres a few bands.

Teeth of Lions Rule the Divine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvhfQ-hnArU

Moss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl_QZ19urfg

Wormphlegm(Drone/Funeral)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-4AUgoBHg

[Derek Vinyard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5lI4t5RnPw

best metalcore you can hear

[The Gunslinger45]

We nominate 8 right?

Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsWguQ8gl4)

Bloodbath - So You Die (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkGnhyWN4Yo)

Death - Painkiller (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=quPliK3eAy4)

Jungle Rot - Gore Bag (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3su4bwYYQNs)

Sodom - Cannon Fodder (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDfVXaNcZE)

Destruction - Bullets from Hell (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsO6ZW7DFEk)

Kreator - Riot of Violence (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZVlFdk5UU)

Sepultura - Arise (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ozB9XKhg_tk)

[Zotis]

AboveTheClouds, I'd say those Drone bands all qualify. I'll bump it up then.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5lI4t5RnPw

best metalcore you can hear

Meh, they're pretty entry level. They're okay, but I got bored of them pretty quickly back in the day. I haven't payed attention to anything they've done in the last 8 years or so.

I wonder what you'll think of these Metalcore bands:

Botch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-aSIfZLnU

As the Sun Sets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGLN0GhwHcM

Zao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRLQKx65PBI

Underoath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBT4VQ6-e8

[Zotis]

We nominate 8 right?

Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsWguQ8gl4)

Bloodbath - So You Die (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkGnhyWN4Yo)

Death - Painkiller (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=quPliK3eAy4)

Jungle Rot - Gore Bag (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3su4bwYYQNs)

Sodom - Cannon Fodder (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDfVXaNcZE)

Destruction - Bullets from Hell (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsO6ZW7DFEk)

Kreator - Riot of Violence (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZVlFdk5UU)

Sepultura - Arise (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ozB9XKhg_tk)

We haven't actually started yet, or discussed how many we'll each nominate. But I'm glad you're interested in joining. I didn't think you would be. :D

Edit: I guess that was the confusion from me saying I would take applications. I just meant in terms of people saying: "I'm in."

[The Gunslinger45]

Gives me a chance to throw out more death metal and teutonic thrash.

[The Gunslinger45]

I'm in.

[Zotis]

I was going to wait and see how many people join before deciding how many songs to nominate, that way I can make it a full bracket with no buys no matter how many people join.

[Derek Vinyard]

AboveTheClouds, I'd say those Drone bands all qualify. I'll bump it up then.




Meh, they're pretty entry level. They're okay, but I got bored of them pretty quickly back in the day. I haven't payed attention to anything they've done in the last 8 years or so.

I wonder what you'll think of these Metalcore bands:

Botch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-aSIfZLnU

As the Sun Sets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGLN0GhwHcM

Zao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRLQKx65PBI

Underoath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBT4VQ6-e8

I love As The Sun Sets wow Great music

[AboveTheClouds]

Khanate - Skin Coat (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGwLTPEhyA)

Diocletion - Werewolf Directive (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8O4rBcIG2fk)

Teitanblood - Seven Chalices of Blood and Vomit (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dyq0WAPrPI)

Man Is the Bastard - Skull Crusher (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=punb3i4bPWA)

Revenge - Heathen Hammer (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2iTED4k8fS0)

Extreme Noise Terror - Raping the Earth (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgmVaDX3WY)

Damaar - Preaching for Mass Suicide (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j3NYrnanq-c)

Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tm11MPNGKFs)

If we haven't started yet, these are my prelim picks ;)

[Zotis]

I love As The Sun Sets wow Great music

Glad you like them. Honestly, I was kinda expecting you not to.

[Zotis]

What if we tried something a bit unconventional for this tournament?

Here's one idea: What if each round everyone submits a new song and we have some kind of point system? Or after a number of rounds all of the winning songs go into a bracket?

[AboveTheClouds]

Yeah that sounds like it could be interesting, but would it make extra work for you?

[Zotis]

Maybe, but I think it will be worth it.

What about adding a rule, only one song per band? That way people are getting more exposure, and having to venture out more to find material.

I didn't like that there were like three Death, Metallica, and Iron Maiden songs in the Metal tournament.

[AboveTheClouds]

Neither did I, I agree with you for that. Once a band is nominated, they cannot be nominated again by anyone, or just again by that person?

[Zotis]

By anyone, first come first serve.

[AboveTheClouds]

I like the sound of that, lots of variation will be better and add a bit more depth to the consideration process.

[False Writer]

I completely missed this thread until now, count me in!

[False Writer]

Botch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-aSIfZLnU



I could never get into Botch. I always hear people go on about how great they are but they just don't do anything for me for some reason.

Huge fan of Underoath! :up:

[AboveTheClouds]

I actually bought that record once like a decade ago off Hydrahead and ended up trading it off like a week later. I didn't look into them and figured they would be like Jesu or Pelican. Nope.

[Zotis]

Dang, well remind me not to nominate them hen, lol.

Okay well I think I am almost ready to start thos thing. I'll message everyone involved within the next day or two, and also try to get word out to anyone who might be interested.

[Gatsby]

Do songs by Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift count as Extreme Music? They make your ears bleed!

[AboveTheClouds]

Cool I have a few tentative changes to my list, so whenever you decide the format and get it ready to go, just keep us posted.

[Zotis]

Do songs by Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift count as Extreme Music? They make your ears bleed!
Making your ears bleed is not a qualifying attribute unfortunately. If you think Taylor Swift is bad though, you should check out that chick who did the nude wrecking ball... Half her head buzz cut, slutty mcslutt slutt what's her name. Sometimes I walk into a mall, and the music makes my nose bleed. I am into Hardcore, but I'm not hardcore enough for that crap.

[Zotis]

Okay, I edited the first post with rules. I'll keep track of the score and nominations. I hope it's not too complicated. I'll be messaging people about it too.

Round 1 Starts Tonight at Midnight

Okay, so here are the official rules:
Every round each participant may nominate 4 songs.
Everyone participating will listen to all of the songs and rank them giving 1 point to the lowest ranked song, 2 points to the next song, 3 points to the song after that, and so on.
No one may nominate a song by any band that has already been nominated by anyone else on a first come, first serve basis.
Everyone will have 24 hours per round. Anyone who doesn't submit a list that round or vote that round misses the opportunity.
Anyone can join in at any time, but any submission that does not qualify as "extreme music" by the parameters below will not count.
I'm not going to chase people. If you aren't sure if something qualifies then ask me. If anyone submits something by accident that doesn't qualify and I let them know and they don't change it in time, too bad. Any points people give it won't count.
People only need to give points to the songs they like. You can simply not list anything you don't want to list, but just remember that points go in ascending order so the more you list the more points your top listed songs get too.
Having fun isn't a rule, it's a personal choice. Feel free to not have any fun if you want. 👍
The 24 hours per round starts at midnight.
I will edit this post with the list of songs nominated, and the scores, so keep checking back.
After 8 rounds the 8 songs that earned the most points for each round will be entered into a straight single elimination bracket.

[Swan]

I refuse to have fun! Unfortunately, I probably will though. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't know what you're doing, but you guys better have a Winner and a Runner Up for the list.

[Zotis]

Don't worry SC, there will be. Whichever two songs make it to the finals of the bracket will be winner and runner up.

Whoever gets the most points officially wins the preliminary, and then whichever song wins the bracket wins the tournament officially.

[AboveTheClouds]

Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tm11MPNGKFs)
Masters Hammer - Ritual (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3T6WnoNe8)
Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged, Spit Upon (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtuzWzFvSvM)
Weapon - Archana (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5r2etrQYI)

[Swan]

Alright, here are my noms. Let me know if any of them don't count and I need to change them.

Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ny4gigSW17Y)
Nails - In Exodus (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZo96Mnjzig)
Cursed - The Void (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htNeAEqb-cc)
Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=op_tjNLj3Ks)

[Zotis]

Thrice - A Subtle Dagger (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmTkVmFvZFA)
Alexisonfire - Little Girls Pointing and Laughing (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiJcZ2YHgTM)
Underoath - Cries of the Past (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvusP-w5TU)
Iwrestledabearonce - Corey Feldman Holocaust (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qs6p3iBKw0E)

[Zotis]

Oh, and don't vote for your own nominations.

[Zotis]

My vote so far; I'll add more as more get submitted.

1. Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed
2. Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker
3. Nails - In Exodus
4. Cursed - The Void
5. Weapon - Archana
6. Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas
7. Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged and Spit Upon
8. Masters Hammer - Ritual

[False Writer]

Here are my nominees, the fourth one might be on the borderline of eligibility, just let me know if it doesn't count Zotis and I'll replace it.


[/URL]Boris the Blade - Serpents Crown (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7cBOU4dSTn8)
The Partisan Turbine- Inertia (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9utCoNW-Q2I)
Carnifex - Dragged Into the Grave (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b1hafyakGXE)

One in question:
[URL="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4_EzWXM_IXw"]Planes Mistaken for Stars - The Past Two (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4_EzWXM_IXw)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh, and don't vote for your own nominations.

What?!

[Zotis]

Here are my nominees, the fourth one might be on the borderline of eligibility, just let me know if it doesn't count Zotis and I'll replace it.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7cBOU4dSTn8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9utCoNW-Q2I
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b1hafyakGXE

One in question:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4_EzWXM_IXw

You also need to put the link between [ url= -link- ] Band - Song [ /url ], and remove the spaces obviously.

What?! Well, for this part, but not for the bracket when bands are put up against each other.

[False Writer]

You also need to put the link between [ url= -link- ] Band - Song [ /url ], and remove the spaces obviously.


K got it. Thanks. I've listened to a few but I'll finish later tomorrow and post my rankings.

[The Gunslinger45]

Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsWguQ8gl4)

Bloodbath - So You Die (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkGnhyWN4Yo)

Death - Painkiller (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=quPliK3eAy4)

Sodom - Cannon Fodder (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDfVXaNcZE)

[AboveTheClouds]

+1 for Bloodbath

1.Thrice - Subtle Daggers ( For personal reasons, I hate this band, a lot)
2.Planes Mistaken For Stars - The Past Two (Too tame for me)
3.Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation
4.UnderOath - Cries of the Past
5.The Partisan Turbine - Inertia
6.Boris the Blade - Serpent Crown
7.Carnifex - Dragged Into the Grave(Not bad for Deathcore, I liked it)
8.IWrestledABearOnce - Corey Feldman Holocaust(Love the chicks vocals, and Clerks sample)
9.Death - Painkiller
10.Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker(I think this is the weakest track from Terrifyer)
11.Alexisonfire - Little Girls Pointing and Laughing
12.Sodom - Cannon Fodder (I'm more of a In the Sign of Evil type of guy though)
13.Nails - In Exodus
14.Cursed - The Void (One of the best Canadian Crust bands around, good pick Swan)
15.Bloodbath - So You Die (Opeth+Katatonia+Dan Swano = $Profit$)
16.Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas (Vengeance is one of the best Crust albums ever released, deadly choice)

I think I did that right, Thrice gets 1 point and Tragedy gets 16?

[Zotis]

I did mine in the opposite order, giving the most points to the #1 band, but it doesn't matter as long as you let me know which way you're doing it.

Thrice used to be my favorite band. I can understand not liking them, but did you rate them lowest because you dislike them in general, or did you at least give that particular song a fair chance? Anyway, it's up to you, but I'm just curious.

[Zotis]

Planes Mistaken for Stars do have some screaming so I'll accept it. I didn't particularly like it, and it was very tame, but it was okay.

[Zotis]

When I listened to the recent submissions by False Writer and Gunslinger I had to listen to my #5 to see if The Partisan Turbine would surpass it. Thanks for that False Writer, Partisan Turbine were really awesome! So, I was listening to Weapon for the second time and I really fell in love with it. Honestly I must admit I was a bit preocupied when listening to some of them, and I had to listen to my top 5 again to see how I really felt about them.

Listening to them again, and concentrating on them more, I had a really hard time placing them. Swan, and AboveTheClouds, I love you guys. I mean even outside of this you're both great people and I'm so glad I met you, even though it's just over the internet and not in person. Seriously I'm shedding a few tears right now. That music was so beautiful. This is why I love music and art. Dang... I actually have a few tears streaking down my cheaks making my shirt wet...

I added Leviathan, Weapon, Cursed, and Nails to my regular playlist. That Pig Destroyer song was from one of their better albums too and it was an excellent nomination.

Here is my updated list:

1. Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed
2. Weapon - Archana
3. Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker
4. Cursed - The Void
5. Nails - In Exodus
6. The Partisan Turbine - Inertia
7. Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas
8. Death - Painkiller
9. Bloodbath - So You Die
10. Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation
11. Sodom - Cannon Fodder
12. Boris the Blade - Serpent's Crown
13. Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged and Spit Upon
14. Carnifex - Dragged into the Grave
15. Masters Hammer - Ritual
16. Planes Mistaken for Stars - The Past Two

[Swan]

Back atcha Zotis. You're a great dude.

Anyway, if it's cool, I plan on getting to this after my guitar lessons later today. I just think that would be the perfect time for this.

[AboveTheClouds]

I did mine in the opposite order, giving the most points to the #1 band, but it doesn't matter as long as you let me know which way you're doing it.

Thrice used to be my favorite band. I can understand not liking them, but did you rate them lowest because you dislike them in general, or did you at least give that particular song a fair chance? Anyway, it's up to you, but I'm just curious.


I got about a minute into it dude, and shut it off, same with Planes Mistaken for Stars. I reach a point where certain bands just sound like From First To Last or something else like that, and then it reminds me of a few people I knew when I was younger that were like suuuuuuper scene, and how they would act like they were kings of the underground because they listened to Thrice, Glassjaw and garbage like Job For a Cowboy. It's really a bias based on people, but because of that I've never been able to really look at it in a positive light. It's funny when they think that stuff is like the most brutal stuff to ever exist. Then you show them Goregrind or some really raw BM, and they are just kind of like ".....uh....". I don't doubt the musical/technical skill of Thrice, but I just don't dig that kind of music.

[AboveTheClouds]

Listening to them again, and concentrating on them more, I had a really hard time placing them. Swan, and AboveTheClouds, I love you guys. I mean even outside of this you're both great people and I'm so glad I met you, even though it's just over the internet and not in person. Seriously I'm shedding a few tears right now. That music was so beautiful. This is why I love music and art. Dang... I actually have a few tears streaking down my cheaks making my shirt wet...


I'm just happy to have people to talk about and share music with, my musical tastes are usually not given a straight go by most people before they dismiss it as noise or evil, so to have found a few people who want recommendations and want to share is very refreshing. So I will say a thank you to Zotis and Swan for being open minded and recognizing that this music is indeed beautiful, you are the kinds of people who deserve this music(/Elitist) There are certain people who don't deserve this kind of music, because they cannot fathom all the emotion and raw energy which embodies it. I always sort of thought that this sort of music has a way of finding you, not you finding it..

And a thank you to everyone who knew their ass from a hole in the ground during the Metal HOF, thank you for helping preserve the definition of what Metal is, not some stupid abstract musical concept that allows anything with tremolo picking, rough vocals and blast beats to be metal. Props to Gunslanger and Guap for being Tr00... even if they like power metal;).

[False Writer]

I got about a minute into it dude, and shut it off, same with Planes Mistaken for Stars. I reach a point where certain bands just sound like From First To Last or something else like that, and then it reminds me of a few people I knew when I was younger that were like suuuuuuper scene, and how they would act like they were kings of the underground because they listened to Thrice, Glassjaw and garbage like Job For a Cowboy. It's really a bias based on people, but because of that I've never been able to really look at it in a positive light. It's funny when they think that stuff is like the most brutal stuff to ever exist. Then you show them Goregrind or some really raw BM, and they are just kind of like ".....uh....". I don't doubt the musical/technical skill of Thrice, but I just don't dig that kind of music.

Well that song was from their really early stuff. They changed drastically after that and got a lot heavier. I personally am not too crazy about their later stuff, but you might like their 2nd album. Give this one a chance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8gtwFGHCV4&list=PLDB78F9431AFF9A03&index=3

[AboveTheClouds]

Listened to it the whole way through, and got a sneaking suspicion that the vocalist was trying to do his best Marilyn Manson impression (Ala Coma White) after 1:20. The music and the vocals don't really mesh well for me (The music is too melodic and poppy to facilitate the vocals imo.) Thank you for hooking me up with another song to try out though False, I do appreciate it.

[False Writer]

Yup no problem. I now realize to no longer nominate any songs that are even remotely "light" from here on out. I do know that this is extreme music and I'll try my best to keep it extreme!

I'm gonna really try to get these listened to and ranked later this afternoon. Either way I'll definitely have them in by midnight tonight!

[The Gunslinger45]

1 pt Planes Mistaken for Stars - The Past Two
2 pts the partisan turbine - inertia
3 pts Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed
4 pts Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged and Spit Upon
5 pts Alexisonfirec- Little Girls Pointing and Laughing
6 pts iwrsetledabearonce - Corey Feldman Holocaust
7 pts Weapon - Archana
8 pts Nails - In Exodus
9 pts UnderOath - Cries of the Past
10 pts Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker
11 pts Tradegy - Conflicting Ideas
12 pts Cursed - The Void
13 pts Boris the Blade - Serpent's Crown
14 pts Carnifex - Dragged into the Grave
15 pts Thrice - A Subtle Dagger
16 pts Master's Hammer - Ritual

Spelled out the number of points to avoid confusion.

[The Gunslinger45]

I'm just happy to have people to talk about and share music with, my musical tastes are usually not given a straight go by most people before they dismiss it as noise or evil, so to have found a few people who want recommendations and want to share is very refreshing. So I will say a thank you to Zotis and Swan for being open minded and recognizing that this music is indeed beautiful, you are the kinds of people who deserve this music(/Elitist) There are certain people who don't deserve this kind of music, because they cannot fathom all the emotion and raw energy which embodies it. I always sort of thought that this sort of music has a way of finding you, not you finding it..

And a thank you to everyone who knew their ass from a hole in the ground during the Metal HOF, thank you for helping preserve the definition of what Metal is, not some stupid abstract musical concept that allows anything with tremolo picking, rough vocals and blast beats to be metal. Props to Gunslanger and Guap for being Tr00... even if they like power metal;).

lol

How to tell if you are true metal.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/cf/24/6acf248154236ead35c0f1eecac9358a.jpg

[False Writer]

1. Underoath - Cries of the Past (16 points)
2. Alexisonfire - Little Girls Pointing And Laughing (15)
3. Nails - In Exodus (14)
4. Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas (13)
5. Death - Pain Killer (12)
6. Master Hammer - Ritual (11)
7. Iwrestledabearonce - Corey Feldman Holocaust (10)
8. Thrice - A Subtle Dagger (9)
9. Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker (8)
10. Bloodbath - So You Die (7)
11. Weapon - Archana (6)
12. Cursed - The Void (5)
13. Profanatica - Mocked, Scouraged, Spit Upon (4)
14. Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation (3)
15. Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed (2)
16. Sodom - Cannon Fodder (1) <---- never been a fan of this band

[Guaporense]

lol

How to tell if you are true metal.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/cf/24/6acf248154236ead35c0f1eecac9358a.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hT3ry.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HCqwH.jpg
http://metalluminati.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Metal-Grrrl1.jpg

[Swan]

A lot of good stuff guys. The main problem I had with it is there is a lot of variety here... which is a good thing on one hand, but of course makes it difficult when comparing two very stylistically different songs. Some of it I didn't personally connect with, but I respect almost all of these songs on some level. I apologize if yours is low on my list - it's not out of dislike of those songs, so much as it is a GREAT appreciation for the more higher-up tunes.

The Leviathan song was my favorite and is my number one, so this list goes in descending order.

Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed
Death - Painkiller
Underoath - Cries of the Past (Zotis! My buddy showed me this song not too long ago. I love it's horror feel...)
Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged, Spit Upon
Iwrestledabearonce - Corey Feldman Holocaust
Masters Hammer - Ritual
Weapon - Archana
Sodom - Cannon Fodder
Bloodbath - So You Die
The Partisan Turbine- Inertia
Thrice - A Subtle Dagger
Carnifex - Dragged Into the Grave
Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation
Alexisonfire - Little Girls Pointing and Laughing
Planes Mistaken for Stars - The Past Two
Boris the Blade - Serpents Crown

[AboveTheClouds]

http://i.imgur.com/hT3ry.jpg



http://40.media.tumblr.com/20fa3be947de3acaa865d0f61dfc8711/tumblr_nuiq28pdcP1ud13m6o4_500.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c5/eb/22/c5eb22027a20cb51e2b9ad64e2ff7a81.jpg
http://en.metal-tracker.com/torrents/images/1151810.jpg
http://media1.fdncms.com/chicago/imager/deiphago/u/slideshow/7224223/1345150726-deiphago_thumb.jpg
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/I/Impiety/pics/1.jpg
http://demoarchives.com/Bands/Beherit-Fin/Photos/logo.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/04/b7/cc/04b7cc86bfe5afaa5b41ba772c5e3763.jpg


I don't know what Black Metal bands/fans he used as inspiration for that. Black Metal isn't about politics or race, it's anti human, anti life. It doesn't care if your Black, White, Green as long as your dead. Black metal champions physical strength a warrior spirit and fosters a lone wolf mentality, not respect for the weak and sheepish. I know that was for the lulz, but that guy simply looks like a fool for essentially equating Black Metal to Goth.

Also a lot of these guys have careers and families outside of music and no hair/short hair is more professional/approachable than long greasy hair. And if you look at pictures of a lot of these musicians nowadays who are from the old school, they have short hair and actually look quite respectable out of black metal attire. No one wants to go to their daughters concert recital in corpse paint, bullets and a vest with long greasy hair shrouding them.

It's possible to be Black Metal without looking the part, because it's not about style it's ideology. Some people just choose to allow that ideology to show through in the way they dress.

/rant

[Zotis]

Alright, it's now after midnight and I'll be tallying the points.

[Zotis]

Preliminaries Round 1 Results

Winner: Tragedy - Conflicting Ideas (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=op_tjNLj3Ks) (50 Pts)

Runner Up: Nails - In Exodus (https://myoutube.com/watch?v=EZo96Mnjzig) (47 Pts)


PTS BAND - SONG
45 Death - Painkiller
44 Cursed - The Void
43 Underoath - Cries of the Past
42 Pig Destroyer - Thumbsucker
40 Masters Hammer - Ritual
38 Bloodbath - So You Die
38 Weapon - Archana
37 Leviathan - Vexed and Vomit Hexed
36 Iwrestledabearonce - Corey Feldman Holocaust
34 Alexisonfire - Little Girls Pointing and Laughing
31 Thrice - A Subtle Dagger
29 Carnifex - Dragged Into the Grave
28 Sodom - Cannon Fodder
25 Boris the Blade - Serpents Crown
25 The Partisan Turbine - Inertia
25 Profanatica - Mocked, Scourged, Spit Upon
17 Cannibal Corpse - Rancid Amputation
6 Planes Mistaken for Stars - The Past Two



I have decided to move the top 2 from each round on to the bracket, so we'll have a 16 bracket instead of just 8, and seating based on their points.

I'm liking how this point system is working, and not voting for our own songs. I think it's going well so far.

[Swan]

Whoa! Was not expecting to win. Thanks guys. :up:

[Guaporense]

Nice to see Judas Priest in 3rd place.

[Swan]

Nice to see Judas Priest in 3rd place.

Guap, did you just crack a joke?

[Zotis]

Points
183 - Swan
144 - Zotis
140 - AboveTheClouds
128 - Gunslinger
85 - False Writer

The current scores for total points.

[Guaporense]

Guap, did you just crack a joke?

Painkiller is a Judas Priest song, it's covered by Death but the song is the same.

[Guaporense]

My 4 nominations all Brazilian:

Krisiun - Slaying Steel
Sepultura - To The Wall
Sarcófago - Ready to ****
Torture Squad - Pandemonium

I don't know if Pandemonium and To the Wall qualify they are death thrash, the traditional Brazilian style. The heaviest of these four is Ready to **** I think.

[False Writer]

Yeah not surprised my noms didn't do well. Will see how the second round goes...

[Zotis]

I'm glad you're joining us Guap.


Don't loose heart False Writer. I'm really glad you nominated The Partisan Turbine. I wish it was higher ranked. :shrug:

[False Writer]

Nah I'm not losing heart, I realized going into this that my taste in heavy music was different than everyone else. That's why I'm not surprised that they're not doing well. I'm gonna try harder to find stuff you all might like (but still nominate what I like regardless ;))

[The Gunslinger45]

Destruction - Bullets from Hell (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsO6ZW7DFEk)

Kreator - Riot of Violence (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZVlFdk5UU)

Jungle Rot - Gore Bag (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3su4bwYYQNs)

Suffocation - Pierced from Within (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YepbZ90amLY)

[AboveTheClouds]

My 4 nominations all Brazilian:

Krisiun - Slaying Steel
Sepultura - To The Wall
Sarcófago - Ready to ****
Torture Squad - Pandemonium

I don't know if Pandemonium and To the Wall qualify they are death thrash, the traditional Brazilian style. The heaviest of these four is Ready to **** I think.


+5000 for Sarcofago

SEX DRINKS METAL!!!!!

[False Writer]

Alright here's my second wave:

The Berzerker - Forever (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dqjt-0N-1rs)
Earth Crisis - Firestorm (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nn4QsRmm6Y0)
I Ate Everybody - Gather All the Bodies (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EeM-EaL1bg8)
Black Tongue - Coma (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb5OMOqJRWc)

[Zotis]

I Hate Sex - I F***ing Hate Sports (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fiULEn0UOZI)
Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GHPwnUGj0Q)
Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Wlyf2KqDI)
Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Ones (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QeeTWX4JB8k)

[AboveTheClouds]

+1 for Orchid and Black Murder. Les Legions Noire are pretty decent stuff, check out Aakon Keetreh if you haven't yet, I think I rec'd them to you, they're LLN too.

Xasthur - Storms of Red Revenge part 2 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XS_Mn-xPbp0)
LUST - Spear of Destiny (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7syk7TsQh8A)
Vrolok - Within the Masters Chambers (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z-Q391vuRQ)
Gospel of the Horns - Vengeance is Mine (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vn8iL4QrCks)

All Black Metal, all the time.. you guys might hate me for LUST, but we'll see.

[Zotis]

Aakon Keetreh are really cool, thanks. I listened to a couple songs. They seem to have a particular style that I have not really seen before.

[Zotis]

I have these headphones which I listen to music at home with:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page2/sc_B000065BPB-01.jpg

At work though I just use cheap earbuds.

[Mr Minio]

you guys might hate me for LUST Sounds like me trying to come up with the most "technical" and at the same time trv version of black metal ever possible. :p

[False Writer]

I Hate Sex - I F***ing Hate Sports (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fiULEn0UOZI)
Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GHPwnUGj0Q)
Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Wlyf2KqDI)
Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Ones (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QeeTWX4JB8k)

I was seriously thinking about picking an Orchid song. It would've probably been Epilogue of a Car Crash.

[AboveTheClouds]

Sounds like me trying to come up with the most "technical" and at the same time trv version of black metal ever possible. :p

The individual that is LUST is very eccentric, the album cover of his first release is him standing naked in a lake with what looks like a flintlock pistol in his mouth, ready to pull the trigger.

It is for reasons like this why Black Metal is not for everyone. But thanks for your input Minio.

[The Gunslinger45]

16 pts Torture Squad - Pandemonium
15 pts Krisiun - Slaying Steel
14 pts Sepultura - To The Wall
13 pts The Berzerker - Forever
12 pts Gospel of the Horns - Vengeance is Mine
11 pts Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not
10 pts Black Tongue - Coma
9 pts Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic
8 pts Earth Crisis - Firestorm
7 pts Sarcófago - Ready to ****
6 pts Xasthur - Storms of Red Revenge part 2
5 pts I Ate Everybody - Gather All the Bodies
4 pts Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Ones
3 pts Vrolok - Within the Masters Chambers
2 pts I Hate Sex - I F***ing Hate Sports
1 pt LUST - Spear of Destiny

Spelled out the number of points (and ranked highest to lowest) to avoid confusion.

[Mr Minio]

It is for reasons like this why Black Metal is not for everyone. But thanks for your input Minio. It's not bad at all. I guess it's war metal. The riffs are simplistic and it's clearly heard as opposed to, say, Filosofem since it's creepy quality and everything sounds like one wall of sound.

[Zotis]

When I was tallying the points it was easier to have the number of points next to the song, so I'm going to follow suit with you guys.

16. Vrolok - Within the Master's Chambers
15. Xasthur - Storms of Red Revenge
14. Earth Crisis - Firestorm
13. Lust - Spear of Destiny
12. Sarcofago - Ready to F***
11. Gospel of Horns - Vengeance is Mine
10. The Berzerker - Forever
9. Krisuin - Slaying Steel
8. Kreator - Riot of Violence
7. Jungle Rot - Gore Bag
6. Torture Squad - Pandemonium
5. Suffocation - Pierced from Within
4. Black Tongue - Coma
3. I Ate Everybody - Gather All the Bodies
2. Sepultra - To the Wall
1. Destruction - Bullets from Hell

Honestly the only stuff that got me excited was Vrolok, and Xasthur. Earth Crisis and Lust were really good too. Sarcofago were interesting, but I really hated the subject matter. As much as I love a lot of Satanic Black Metal music, I despise most of it's subject matter. And I recently acquired a taste for Pornogrind, Goregrind, Deathgrind, Raw Black Metal, and I reached the point where I don't think any music is too heavy for me to appreciate and enjoy. But I still find that the vast majority of the most extreme forms of music are 90% complete garbage in terms of it's subject matter (actually I could probably say that about all forms of music, and all forms of art for that matter). At least Satanic music that takes itself seriously has an element that I can respect in it's lyrical content and subject matter, even though it's evil. Because I love God, and fear him, I choose to hate evil. So I try to go into it being very careful about my frame of mind. I get tempted to lust when I see nudity on album covers, so I just look away and try to focus on the music. And when I can understand lyrics that are about sex it's either tempting or/and disgusting (depending on how vulgar and perverted the lyrics are). So all this is to say that I found it challenging to listen to Sarcofago, at least that song. And I had to listen to the song about three times to really feel where to place it. Instrumentally I liked it a lot, and the vocal techniques were very interesting, but the subject matter was a hurdle for me. Even my own nomination, Black Murder, is a band that I love the sound of but don't really listen to often because of how evil their imagery and subject matter is. Personally I don't really think of Satanic stuff as much more evil, or necessarily more Satanic, than other secular things like glorified violence in action movies or sexuality and lust in pop music.

Anyway, I'm just saying this to give you guys some insight into me, not to influence your nominations or anything. Everything from Kreator and under I rate 2.5. I'd rather listen to that over what plays on the radio, but it's not music that I particularly enjoyed listening to. I listened to most of the songs all the way through, and about half of them more than once. A few songs I skimmed a bit because I started getting bored.

That Sepultra song was more interesting than the few Sepultra songs I've heard in the past, but I just don't really find Sepultra very interesting.

I Ate Everybody, Black Tongue, Suffocation, and Torture Squad were pretty generic in their Deathcore/Death Metal elements. I've listened to a fair bit of Deathcore and Death Metal, and it's some pretty muddy water with hundreds of bands that sound just typical and generic. So I don't really get too interested in them. I will drop some more Deathcore nominations myself before this is over so you can see what kind of interesting Deathcore bands I've found over the years (or at least what I consider "interesting").

Jungle Rot, Kreator, Krisuin, and The Berzerker had interesting elements, but overall did not particularly appeal to my taste/niches.

Lust were really interesting. I liked the sloppiness and the eccentric elements.

Earth Crisis are a band that has never particularly appealed to me, but that song was more interesting than probably anything of theirs I've heard before. :up:

Vrolok and Xasthur were fabulous. I listened to a bunch more of their material. Amazing stuff! :up: :up: :up:

As always AboveTheClouds, you never cease to amaze.

I'm sad you didn't submit anything this round, Swan. I guess it's a lot of new territory for you, and maybe you're feeling a bit overwhelmed. I'd suggest trying a couple of approaches during the course of this tournament.

1. Pick 1-3 particular niches that you have so far and do some googling for similar material. When you come across some material that you like throw it at us. Don't worry about listening to a band's whole album, or familiarising yourself with their discography before you decide to pick a song you come across that interests you. Don't bog yourself down too much.

2. Pick 1-3 particular genres/styles that you are not yet familiar with to explore and follow the same pattern as #1.

Anyway, that's just my personal approach to exploring music. It's nice to add whole albums to playlists, or to go through a great band's whole discography, but that can be very time consuming too. Sometimes you just have to sample a whole bunch of random songs to get a scope of what's out there and then when you have time you can pick the most interesting things that you've found to sit down and really absorb. I don't know what you're personal approach to listening to music is, but mine is kind of chaotic. Sometimes I go long stretches without even listening to any music at all, and sometimes I go through stretches of doing practically nothing but listen to music.

Judging from your taste so far I'd suggest sampling some first and second wave Hardcore (and maybe third wave and newer too), some first wave Metalcore, early Grindcore, Grindcore/Powerviolence, Crust, Death Metal, Thrash Metal (newer/heavier stuff than Metallica/Slayer), and some Deathcore too.

I don't know how busy you are with other things in your life right now, so just do whatever you feel like and don't worry about it. Just don't waste time doing things that are meaningless or not particularly interesting. There isn't enough time in life to sample every amazing awesome thing out there to waste time on things that are just mediocre. :)

[AboveTheClouds]

War Metal is Black/Death basically in one genre. If you really want to get into sub-sub genre's than the two I like the most are Orthodox Black Metal and War Metal.

[AboveTheClouds]

16. Black Murder
15. Sarcofago
14. Orchid
13. Kreator
12. Destruction
11. Jungle Rot
10. Krisiun
9. Torture Squad
8. Sepultura
7. I Ate Everybody
6. Suffocation
5. Earth Crisis
4. Breeze of the Dying
3. Black Tongue
2. I Hate Sex
1.The Berzerker

[Zotis]

That Blue Angel tombstone is really interesting. I couldn't find out much about the guy buried there other than he was a member of parliament and a lawyer/judge (I think). And apparently the angel is called the "blue" angel because of a blue spray paint bomb that they couldn't completely wash off.

Such a beautiful piece of artistry though. I love seeing sculptures of angels. I don't know why, they're just so beautiful and interesting.

Talking about the vandalism kind of reminds me of how much art and architecture and literature has been destroyed in wars. Like when Baghdad was bombed in 2003.

Edit: I couldn't even find a picture of the angel with her hand. The missing hand kind of suits her though, gives her character and makes her look so wounded, and vulnerable.

[AboveTheClouds]

Yeah, Blue Angel is kind of the "slang" name for it, from what I understand it's called the Pooley Angel after the guy who's grave it marks.

[Zotis]

I was seriously thinking about picking an Orchid song. It would've probably been Epilogue of a Car Crash.

Yeah, for me Aesthetic Dialectic was the first song of theirs I ever heard and it totally amazed me. I love the whole dialogue. I guess it's pertaining to the music scene at the time. Other favorite songs of theirs are ...And the Cat Turned to Smoke, New Jersey vs Valhalla, and as you say Epilogue of a Car Crash. They have so many good songs though. Later I'm going to nominate another band that has members from Orchid.

[False Writer]

I enjoyed reading your insight Zotis. I'm glad that you enjoyed the Earth Crisis song!

It's gonna be pushing it but I'm gonna try my best to get these songs listened to and ranked before midnight. Also, why did Swan not nominate anything?

[Zotis]

He said he couldn't this round. I'll give you some leeway since I know you're working on it. Just submit it as soon as you can.

I'm wondering if we should have a pause/overlap between posting nominations and voting on them. Like, maybe on the day you vote you also post your nominations for the next round, instead of posting nominations for the same round you're voting for on the same day. What do you guys think?

[Zotis]

This would extend voting for this round until midnight tomorrow, and submit your songs for round 3 tomorrow. Voting for round 3 would not begin until after midnight tomorrow, and at midnight tomorrow no more nominations for round 3 would be accepted, and nominating for round 4 would begin.

[False Writer]

I'm fine with that

[Zotis]

I drew this:

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12439221_10153416614581417_4032620713149901052_n.jpg?oh=4203e21b03f28a9e377a089bd05007e3&oe=572C1E3D

[AboveTheClouds]

I like the robes, looks legit. And yeah I think that's a good idea with the overlap.

[Guaporense]

Ok, here is my list:

1st - Kreator - Riot of Violence (Kreator is the best thrash metal band of all time)
2nd - Vrolok - Within the Master's Chambers (the REAL shite)
3rd - Gospel of the Horns - Vegeance is Mine (very conservative sounding black metal)
4th - Xasthur - Storms Of Red Revenge - Part 2 (AWESOME!)
5th - Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic (AWESOME)
6th - LUST - Spear of Destiny (AWESOME, specially the vocals)
7th - Destruction - Bullets from Hell
8th - Suffocation - Pierced from Within
9th - Jungle Rot - Gore Bag
10th - Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Ones (bad production gave me a headache ;))
11th - Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not (this is not music, it's noise ;))
12th - I hate sex - I ****ing Hate Sports (whoa, WTF is this shiite)
13th - I Ate Everybody - Gather All the Bodies (still good)
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14th - Berserker - Forever (really didn't like this, the vocals and the voice over it, meh)
15th - Firestorm - Earth Crisis (vocals sound lame and guitarwork is just ok)
16th Black Tongue - Coma (vocals sound lame, guitars are lame, meh)

I lined up to separate the stuff I liked from what I disliked

[Zotis]

For the record I am Eastern Standard Time (-5 GMT). After midnight tonight (it's now technically the 27th) I will tally the votes, so until then you can edit and make changes if you want. Post your nominations for Round 3 whenever you're ready. At midnight tonight I won't accept any more votes for Round 2 or nominations for Round 3.

Edit: Guap, if you want you don't have to give any points to the stuff you didn't like. Of course that would also subtract 1 point from everything you did like. It's up to you.

[False Writer]

1. I Hate Sex - I F***ing Hate Sports (16 points) <---- I REALLY liked this song for some reason
2. Suffocation - Pierced From Within (15) <---- Have always liked them
3. Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic (14)
4. Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not (13)
5. Krisiun - Slaying Steel (12)
6. Gospel of the Horns - Vengeance is Mine (11)
7. Jungle Rot - Gore Bag (10)
8. LUST - Spear of Destiny (9) <---- I actually kinda liked this one Above, not sure why I'd hate you for it :p
9. Sepultura - To the Wall (8)
10. Kreator - Riot of Violence (7)
11. Destruction - Bullets From Hell (6)
12. Sarcofago - Ready to **** (5)
13. Torture Squad - Pandemonium (4)
14. Vrolok - Within the Masters Chambers (3)
15. Xasthur - Storm of Red Revenge Part 2 (2)
16. Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Souls (1)

[False Writer]

A lot of hate for The Berzerker I see... I wasn't expecting that. Still love that song regardless!

[Zotis]

I'm glad you liked I Hate Sex so much. I am obsessed with the sound of female yelling Hardcore vocals. If I ever start a band, which I may someday, I would insist on having at least some female yelling in some songs.

[AboveTheClouds]

It sounded like an angrier le tigre

http://4ca03fhcpiv4bsn7vbg2ef11td.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/tumblr_lj55tivXKM1qbs691o1_500.jpg

[Zotis]

After this tournament I'll take a break, but then I plan on doing another one. Not only that, but I want the limit of one song per band to be carried over. I hope you guys don't run out, because I for one have too many bands in my memory banks to list all the ones I want to. I think I could do this indefinitely and not run out, simply because there's so many more bands I'm constantly discovering every time I look.

I'm listening to Le Tigre. Meh. I don't really see the comparison though... At least not with this random song I clicked on.

[AboveTheClouds]

It was just kind of a joke dude, Bikini Kill(The chick from Le Tigre other band) would be closer in musical context, but it was really just a joke as to how both are angry sounding females and how I didn't care for either.

Yeah, I could probably go forever as well. I'm gonna do all BM for this tournament though.

[Zotis]

Yeah, I could probably go forever as well. I'm gonna do all BM for this tournament though.

Sweet. :cool:

Actually, I can kinda see what you're saying with this song though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5pzx6C-Xb8

[Mr Minio]

If I ever start a band, which I may someday, I would insist on having at least some female yelling in some songs. No problem. Your mum will yell at you for playing too loud.

[AboveTheClouds]

That was the first song I heard by them, and I thought it blew, then years later I heard TKO and it was stuck in my head for a week, when I found out it was Le Tigre I was gonna off myself, haha. My point being is that she's practically a feminazi, and big time into Riot Grrrl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_grrrl) stuff.

[Zotis]

For some reason she reminds me of the girl from Iwrestledabearonce. That same nerdy hipster look. I mean there's good nerdy hipster, and there's bad nerdy hipster, and sometimes the line is pretty blurry. I dunno... I try to have good taste in general, but what do I know?

Like, I would never think of Thrice as all that hardcore compared to stuff like Beherit or Lord Gore, but people who are into that really hardcore stuff often put Thrice in the same boat as scene garbage like Asking Alexandria and Alesana or that fake Screamo like Grealy Estates and Hawthorne Heights. I think in Post-Hardcore/Metalcore/Deathcore there's a very fine line between lame and respectable. In my experience those lame scene kids don't listen to Thrice.

[AboveTheClouds]

In my experience what I listen too seems to be at the end of the spectrum in terms of extreme. So I guess I understand what you mean, I find thrash and hardcore to be pretty tame in comparison. But I can see how Thrice would get lumped in, I've honestly done it before. Scene kids are funny man, they listen to stuff that's a step away from radio play and think their underground.

[Zotis]

They are funny. I like how hardcore they think they are because they dye their hair black, have piercings, and listen to music most people can't stomach and have never heard of, but most of them are seriously a bunch of push overs.

But meh, most people don't have good taste, or developed taste, or an understanding of "quality" or a sense of "culture." I think it's just about realising where we are on the spectrum. Most people compare themselves with people around them and think, "I am so much better compared to them, therefore I'm pretty high up on the spectrum." But people don't really think about how far the spectrum goes and how close to the bottom they are. They're "so much" higher than people lower than them, and they don't realise that distance is nothing compared to how high the top is.

I think the first thing that made me start to think about this was when I played Counter Strike competitively. Because if you play on public servers and you destroy 90% of the people you encounter, you may think you're skill level is 90/100. But when I was at the peek of my game I couldn't even play on public servers because they would assume I was hacking because I was "too good" and they would ban me. But even when I was that good, I was only one level above the open division that anyone can enter at. And that was in the amateur league. I couldn't even touch the people one level above me, who were still not even in the highest level of the amateur league. And we still haven't even reached the pro level yet. I was so far down on the spectrum, and most people thought I was hacking because I was so much better than them and they thought they were pretty high on the spectrum.

Ever since I saw the movie Angela's Ashes, this line keeps ringing in my head, "There's a great blight of ignorance upon the world."

I'm ignorant. But the most ignorant people of all are the ones who think they know a lot.

[False Writer]

Here's my third wave:

Septic Flesh - Sangreal (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3hhzHL8yqY)

Mastodon - March of the Fire Ants (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=irlyZH04PvI) <---- One of my favorite guitar riffs ever

Gideon - Gutcheck (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpIDDiCU3U) <---- Everyone will hate this one, but I love hardcore and wanted to represent it some

The Saddest Landscape - The Sixth Golden Ticket (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bE7yK1-QbW4)

[The Gunslinger45]

Well the other nominations are not up yet. I will vote on them when I get back from work tonight.

[The Gunslinger45]

Exmortus - In Hatred's Flames (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-zaF0LXD4)

Pestilence - Dehydrated (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5Ajt3r5xA&list=PL46964DA8FBF7603A)

Morbid Angel - Immortal Rites (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-yKIZyixIU&list=PLdmeiN4g1vLNevJv3uH3oaTCIue0wbZge)

Amon Amarth - Valhall Awaits Me (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5EkXCcMh5f0)

A little Melodic Swedish Death Metal for a slight change of pace from the thrash, thrash death, and old school death metal I have been nominating.

[Guaporense]

After some Brazilian music now I put into some European classics:

Emperor - Into the Infinity of Thoughts
Bathory - Blood Fire Death
Blind Guardian - Fast to Madness (yeah Power Metal)
Mayhem - Freezing Moon

I decided to nominate a Blind Guardian song even though it's not extreme metal proper its still is very aggressive song, heavier than many extreme metal songs.

[Guaporense]

Ever since I saw the movie Angela's Ashes, this line keeps ringing in my head, "There's a great blight of ignorance upon the world."

I'm ignorant. But the most ignorant people of all are the ones who think they know a lot.

Indeed. I notice this here, I don't know many metal bands even though 90% of the stuff I listen is metal and has been for the past 12 years. Same with movies and stuff, the more you learn the more you know of stuff you don't know and you notice your ignorance is bigger and bigger.

[False Writer]

Exmortus - In Hatred's Flames (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-zaF0LXD4)

Pestilence - Dehydrated (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5Ajt3r5xA&list=PL46964DA8FBF7603A)

Morbid Angel - Immortal Rites (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-yKIZyixIU&list=PLdmeiN4g1vLNevJv3uH3oaTCIue0wbZge)

Amon Amarth - Valhall Awaits Me (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5EkXCcMh5f0)

A little Melodic Swedish Death Metal for a slight change of pace from the thrash, thrash death, and old school death metal I have been nominating.

I love Amon Amarth! I listened to the crap out of With Odin On Our Side.

[Zotis]

My Round 3 Nominations
Sake - Bloat (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zri0Dv15AHU)
Raspberry Bulbs - Beg the Young (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hG48zfDCkhQ)
Last X Minute - Food not Bombs (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKe5OWpN6s)
Thulsa Doom - Both Human (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fZafVh-m23k)

[AboveTheClouds]

Round 3 Noms
These are all Sarcofago covers :D

Impiety - The Black Vomit (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OAFuYF3yC_s)
Black Witchery - Deathrash (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mZT5Yb26f-E)
Conqueror - Christ's Death (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wpncmfVnzPg)
Satyricon - I.N.R.I (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LJw1DCQ-SEE)

[AboveTheClouds]

After some Brazilian music now I put into some European classics:

Emperor - Into the Infinity of Thoughts


:tsk:


I AM THE BLACK WIZARDS

[Zotis]

False Writer, you know I'm a sucker for Screamo.

Sorry Gunslinger, but I never did like Amon Amarth. That song was the only one I got bored of so far. But Alter of Madness is my favorite Morbid Angel album, so it's got the most points for me so far.

I have only listened to their 8 songs so far.

I'll start tallying the Round 2 points.

I love when I can do this at home instead of work. Beer makes the music taste so much better.

[The Gunslinger45]

16 pts Blind Guardian - Fast to Madness
15 pts Impiety - The Black Vomit
14 pts Septic Flesh - Sangreal
13 pts Gideon - Gutcheck
12 pts Sake - Bloat
11 pts Last X Minute - Food not Bombs
10 pts Thulsa Doom - Both Human
9 pts Black Witchery - Deathrash
8 pts Mastodon - March of the Fire Ants
7 pts Raspberry Bulbs - Beg the Young
6 pts Conqueror - Christ's Death
5 pts Satyricon - I.N.R.I
4 pts Bathory - Blood Fire Death
3 pts Mayhem - Freezing Moon
2 pts Emperor - Into the Infinity of Thoughts
1 pt The Saddest Landscape - The Sixth Golden Ticket

[Zotis]

Well shoot me in the foot Gunslinger... I think that's the most points you've given me so far...

[The Gunslinger45]

Well shoot me in the foot Gunslinger... I think that's the most points you've given me so far...

You nominated some good stuff.

[AboveTheClouds]

I started with Bathory, but because I've had a few beers I'm now sad that Quorthon's been gone for 11 years now. So I'm just gonna listen to the entirety of Blood Fire Death and The Return... and I will get around to this tomorrow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/grimfist/bathory.jpg
Rest in power Quorthon, we miss you man. See you in Valhalla:(

[Zotis]

This was a difficult round for me. I must admit there was a lot of stuff I wasn't particularly fond of, and I had to listen to almost every song like 3 times just to place them... lol.... ugh... haha... man...

Conqueror were the most interesting to me of your nominations AboveTheClouds.

[Zotis]

Everyone else has sent their nominations already, but Swan still has till midnight to show up...

[Zotis]

Preliminaries Round 2 Results

Winner: Orchid - Aesthetic Dialectic (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GHPwnUGj0Q) (49 Pts)

Runner Up: Gospel of the Horns - Vengeance is Mine (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vn8iL4QrCks) (48 Pts)


PTS BAND - SONG
46 Krisuin - Slaying Steel
44 Kreator - Riot of Violence
39 Sarcofago - Ready to F***
37 Vrolok - Within the Master's Chambers
36 Jungle Rot - Gore Bag
36 Xasthur - Storms of Red Revenge Part 2
35 Suffocation - Pierced from Within
35 Tortured Squad - Pandemonium
34 Breeze of the Dying - Blame Me Not
34 Lust - Spear of Destiny
32 Sepultra - To the Wall
29 Destruction - Bullets from Hell
29 Earth Crisis - Firestorm
28 Black Murder - Tower of Tortured Ones
27 The Berzerker - Forever
25 I Hate Sex - I F***ing Hate Sports
19 I Ate Everybody - Gather All the Bodies
18 Black Tongue - Coma


Leaderboard
295 - AboveTheClouds
280 - Zotis
274 - Gunslinger
183 - Swan
178 - False Writer
152 - Guarporense


This Round
155 - AboveTheClouds
152 - Guaporense
146 - Gunslinger
136 - Zotis
93 - False Writer

[Guaporense]

From best to worst:

Satyricon
Impiety
Conqueror
Morbid Angel
Black Witchery
Exmortus
Amon Amarth
Thulsa Doom
Pestilence
Septic Flesh
Last X Minute
Sake
Rapsberry Bulbs
The Saddest Landscape
Gideon
Mastodon (I hate Mastodon with passion)

[False Writer]

From best to worst:

Satyricon
Impiety
Conqueror
Morbid Angel
Black Witchery
Exmortus
Amon Amarth
Thulsa Doom
Pestilence
Septic Flesh
Last X Minute
Sake
Rapsberry Bulbs
The Saddest Landscape
Gideon
Mastodon (I hate Mastodon with passion)

Why?

[Guaporense]

I like this review of Mastodon's first album:

11 Boat Loads of Random Suckage. - 23%
hells_unicorn, January 30th, 2007
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It is impossible to collaborate with a musician under the age of 23 who hasn’t heard of Mastodon, they have been a media darling of sorts as a token metal band for the masses for a few years now. However, until 2 years ago I was happily ignorant of their existence, then my band was in search of a drummer and we ended up going with a kid who was fresh out of high school and looking for a challenge. Our collaboration with him lasted a meager 6 months and the only real fruit of our labor in trying to get him to keep a steady beat was me receiving this album as a birthday gift, which was quite elucidating as to why we had problems with him.

Mastodon plays a rather unique blend of Groove and Technical Metal, unique in the sense that no one else plays Groove Metal like this because the two concepts completely contradict each other. When music grooves, the drum beats are usually boring straight beats meant to induce the urge to nod your head to the music rather than bang it, but in the case of Mastodon you’d have to have 5 heads coming out of your shoulders nodding in a random overlapping manner in order to be in sync with the drums, which are so steeped with changes and fills that any sense of beat is completely gone.

The next symptom of this contradiction is the rather large collection of random riffs thrown together to make a distorted collage of misshapen sounds. In order to realize the groove aspect of the dichotomy, we obviously need simplistic riffs that stick to your cerebrum, mostly by boring the hell out of you and leaving an impression of painful drudgery. But if we are also to be technical, we must have rapid changes, so what we get is a massive collection of unrelated riffs all pasted together, guising as something that can be followed by the human ear. When you combine the ridiculous number of over-developed ideas (yes, it is possible to do this, although Mastodon is the only band I’ve heard that actually pulls it off) with the pretentious drum wankery, you are left with one simple question. Where the **** is the song in this mess? The truth is, there aren’t any songs on here, there is only 11 tracks with varying time lengths containing noise, albeit noise that took a lot of effort to create.

While the instrumentalists are obviously in possession of technical ability, the vocalist exhibits the exact opposite extreme. At best, the vocals on here can be described as a non-Brazilian version of what you heard on Sepultura’s “Chaos A.D.”, which was probably a fairly big influence on this band. However, whereas on that album you could somewhat understand the lyrics (which were downright idiotic I might add), on here the vocals are so garbled that unless you read the lyric sheet you think your listening to gibberish being screamed by a Baboon with Tourette's Syndrome. When you actually read the lyric sheets, much of what you read is sheer nonsense, having a bit in common with the quasi-Dadaist style of System of a Down.

Naturally, there are some small areas of sound on here where you get something resembling music. Most of these are found on the closing track “Elephant Man”, where we get more groove than we do technical groove, resulting in a redundant though at least listenable ballad with some melodic guitar leads. The added bonus here is that the singer has decided to shut up and let the music go it's own way rather than add some stupid spoken part.

The remaining tracks on here are all interchangeable with each other and can be distinguished only by their time lengths. Whether it’s the short fit of pointless and meandering minimalist riffs surrounded by a 2 minute drum solo guising as “Crusher Destroyer” (what a dumb ****ing name), or longer swamps of musical diarrhea such as “Trainwreck” (hence the name) and “March of the Fire ants”, none of it can be recalled by memory after being heard. The only thing you get is an impression, and it fades quickly when you seek out better music.

Now how does one explain the massive following that this band has? Why are they so damned popular? I struggled with this for a little while before remembering where this music came from. Throughout the early 90s there was a rather comical yet pathetic display of monkey see monkey do that resulted in the quick life and death of both Groove Metal and Grunge. Kurt Cobain’s and Sepultura’s success in the 90s was the result of what drives lemmings to commit mass suicide, you don’t question why something is either good or bad, you simply listen because that is what everyone else is doing. The initial impression that anyone is listening is provided by the industry which produces it, and then it snowballs from there.

So to all of my fellow metal heads out there whom are either contemplating buying any releases by this band or questioning why they are so big, let offer some advice, don’t bother with it. This rather massive swamp of decrepit excrement is not worth anyone’s time. Truth be told, I’d rather have my eyes plucked out and then be skull ****ed by a T-Rex rather than listen to this again.

[AboveTheClouds]

Bathory (This song means a lot to me, all of Bathory's work means a lot to me, RIP Quorthon, may you feast, drink and battle to your hearts content in Valhalla)
Mayhem (Although I prefer Dead's work over Attila, this song is a classic and atmospheric as hell, it's sent many a shiver down my spine)
Emperor ( I AM THE BLACK WIZARDS :P)
Raspberry Bulbs (Thank you for reminding me about these guys Zotis, I forgot about them. I love Punk I love Black Metal, I love it when their mixed)
Pestilence (Deadly pick dude, this is one hell of an album, a ****ing classic)
Morbid Angel (Everyone thinks Altar's is their best but I prefer Blessed are the Sick, good song though)
Sake (This **** is pretty good)
Blind Guardian (The best power metal, but that's not saying much ;))
Gideon (Reminds me of Bane or something, it's not bad)
Amon Amarth (Generic Death Metal, not bad but nothing special)
Thulsa Doom (Didn't like them years ago, and it seems nothing has changed
Exmortus (I am really not a fan of most Tech Death. Atheist, Cynic and later Death was all I can really deal with, aside from a few random bands here and there)
Septic Flesh (Boring as hell, always thought they were pretty formulaic)
The Saddest Landscape(Strange fluctuations through out the whole song,)
Last X Minute (My buddy thought it was a kid singing, hahaha. Had a hard time taking this seriously dude, sorry)
Mastodon(I hate these guys, they were playing a festival I went to once, I ended up staying outside getting baked the whole time. That was way more fun)

[Zotis]

I rated all the songs for this round and wrote it out on my laptop, and then forgot to bring it with me. I get off work at midnight, I'll get home around 1:30am. I'll post it then.


That Mastadon review was a bit pretentious I found. Clearly they know more about it than me, and a lot more about music than me, but I couldn't stomach a lot of their line of reasoning and obvious bias. I personally found Mastadon a bit boring, but I didn't hate it. I wouldn't make any effort to listen to it on my own, but my feelings towards it were pretty neutral. If it was playing in the background of a store I'd prefer that to 99% of what plays at stores.


I figured you'd hate Last X Minute, AboveTheClouds. I like those chicks that sound like little kids. I don't know, maybe I'm secretly a pedophile....


:randy:

[AboveTheClouds]

That made me laugh too ******* hard dude. +1

She kind of looks like a 13 year old boy too though, so I can't blame my friend for thinking it was a kid. I would have been on that bandwagon too had there been no picture for reference.

[Zotis]

Well you know what they say, "In by eight before it's too late."


It's not my fault though. Society made me this way, what with all it's idolisation of youth and sexual pressure...

[AboveTheClouds]

No more Lolicon for you.

[Zotis]

I must admit, I had to google that. I had no idea what a Lolicon was. Apparently there's a thing called shotacon though. :drevil:

Alright, here's my slightly late vote and thoughts on various songs:


Round 3 Votes
Morbid Angel - Immortal Rites (4)
The Saddest Landscape - The Sixth Golden Ticket (4)
Conqueror - Christ's Death (3.5)
Pestilence - Dehydrated (3)
Satyricon - I.N.R.I. (2.75)
Ceptic Flesh - Sangreal (2.75)
Bathory - Blood Fire Death (2.75)
Mastadon - March of the Fire Ants (2.75)
Gideon - Gutcheck (2.5)
Mayhem - Freezing Moon (2.5)
Black Witchery - Deathrash (2.5)
Impiety - The Black Vomit (2.5)
Emperor - Into the Infinity of Thoughts (2.5)
Exmortus - In Hatred's Flame (2.25)
Blind Guardian - Fast to Madness (2)
Amon Amarth - Valhall Awaits Me (2)

Amon Amarth were really boring. I thought the lyrics, basically describing a viking's actions on a battlefield, were pretty lame. "The axe cracked the helmet, I twisted my sword, a weapon in each hand, bla bla..." The instrumentals did nothing for me either.

I don't like Power Metal, and Blind Guardian were no exception. Sorry Guap, I did give it a full listen, but I just couldn't enjoy it at all.

Exmortus were alright. Nothing special, but I didn't mind it.

Mastadon had some interesting elements. Overall I wasn't particularly interested, but I wasn't bored either.
I felt the same way about Emperor. It was really hard to place them. Different elements appealed to me, and different elments didn't particularly interest me. I gave Mastadon a slight edge. I think I liked Mastadon's Deathcore/Death Metal elements a little more than Emperor's Symphonic/hymn elements.

Mayhem were a bit repetative. I enjoyed the Black Metal elements, but I wasn't particularly crazy about them. It was hard to place, but I ended up sticking them in between Mastadon and Emperor in terms of overall enjoyment.

I've never been a fan of Bathory, but that song was actually pretty decent. I can see why they're so popular.

I didn't mind Gideon's style, but it was a big generic.

Pestilence were interesting. I've heard them before. They're not particularly in my radar, but they are good solid respectable old-school Death Metal. Nice job Gunslinger!

Septic Flesh... hmm... well... The singing reminded me of Billy Talent. I thought that was funny. But actually I enjoyed the various elements that accompanied the brutal heaviness. I didn't love it, but it was pretty decent.

Impiety and Black Witchery were okay. I stuck them in the middle-ish.

Conqueror were interesting. I liked their vocals, the low fidelity of their recording, and the fast heavy blasting instrumentals and other interesting elements thrown in. My cup of tea. It's kind of funny how, as a Christian, something titled "Christ's Death," with sounds that would repulse most people as some kind of demon possessed putrid debauchary, actually sounded so interesting, creative, and compelling. But these kinds of things only make me think about how wonderful the fact that Christ died for me really is. He endured this ridicule and shame even though he's God almighty, and because of that I can actually be free from my own wickedness and am enabled to turn my life around and be pure. Amazing. I guess that's why all this demonic imagery doesn't fase me. Actually, it reminds me of why I love horror movies and the feeling of being scared and experiencing fear. What would most people consider the most terrifying thing? A demonic monster violent, gorry, blood-thirsty, going to kill them and devour their innards. But what's really the greatest fear? What do those monstrous demons fear? They fear God and the eternal condemnation that awaits them. "Do not fear that which can only harm the body and then can do no more to you. Fear him who has the power to destroy the body and cast the soul into hell for all eternity. The fear of the Lord is the beggining of wisdom. To fear the Lord is to hate evil." That's a paraphrase of a few Bible passages.

Satyricon... I have the impression that I'm not particularly interested in them. I know I've listened to them before years ago. Well anyway, that song was pretty decent.

The Saddest Landscape are a great Screamo band, very popular among fans of the genre. Their blend of melodic hardcore puts me at incredible ease. I wouldn't say they are in my top 50 Screamo bands, but definitely top 100.

Morbid Angel's first album is one of my top 5 favorite Death Metal albums.


I will tally round three's results after I wake up. I'm really tired after a 12 hour shift and hardly any sleep yesterday.

I'll post my round 4 nominations before I go to sleep though.

[Zotis]

Round 4 Nominations
Moonraker - Teen Hulk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3vMtQVH8Bwk)
The Birds Are Spies They Report to the Trees - Mountain Time (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hGcUUM2DkQ)
The Pax Cecilia - The Progress (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NwpJR2lu0HA)
Carol - Raw Abstraction (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5DtK8smIE)


Hope you guys enjoy.

[The Gunslinger45]

Obituary - Chopped in Half (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NQgCZasm6mU)

Warpath - Damnation (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YJOmumqDN9o)

Gama Bomb - Zombie Blood Nightmare (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d47rb5HGaVo)

Dekapitator - Run With the Pack (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmj4DEytbDc)

Some more old school death metal, some thrash/death and straight thrash metal.

[Guaporense]

That Mastadon review was a bit pretentious I found. Clearly they know more about it than me, and a lot more about music than me, but I couldn't stomach a lot of their line of reasoning and obvious bias. I personally found Mastadon a bit boring, but I didn't hate it. I wouldn't make any effort to listen to it on my own, but my feelings towards it were pretty neutral. If it was playing in the background of a store I'd prefer that to 99% of what plays at stores.

The guys at Metal archives are very critical of stuff and very sure of their superior taste. So that if they dislike something that other people like its a puzzle: "how can people listen to that?", he concludes its because of social pressure. There is no acknowledgement of the fact that individual tastes might be different.

But I usually agree strongly with the tastes of some reviewers there like Hells Unicorn.

[Guaporense]

Slayer - Cripts of Eternity (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PuZukm-SfTY)

Dark Angel - Burning of Sodom (live) (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OjeEbm7kk-o)

Enslaved - Havenless (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sWyfnp-ghaE)

Entombed - Left Hand Path (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6exw6xT0oo)

Some old favorites of mine from bands I don't think nobody nominated yet (even the super obvious "daddy" of extreme metal, Slayer)

[Zotis]

I slept for 12 hours today, and I'm at a tournament tonight, so I'll get to this first chance I get.

[False Writer]

I'm terribly sorry all but I haven't been able to get around to doing this. Just go ahead and vote for your noms, don't wait for me. Just consider me dropped out for now. Sorry Zotis.

[Zotis]

You don't need to drop out. You can just take a break and come back whenever you're ready.

Anyway, lets all take a breather. I have another Smash Bros. Melee tournament tomorrow that's going to last all day.

[Guaporense]

Good for me as well.

[False Writer]

Alright well if that's the case then here's my next wave:

Joshua Fit for Battle - Opportunist (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XNVgEbuVbf4)

Fall of Efrafa - Pity the Weak (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWYR9WuAuhU)

Rhapsody of Fire - Reign of Terror (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aItNg5SDX9Q)

From doing this I've learned that most of you like Black Metal, unfortunately I just don't listen to it much. However, there is this one band I found last year that I do like. They are black metal with folk elements, give this a chance:
Vorna - Jalkemme (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FbDVLgjeqb4)

[Guaporense]

Finally you nominated stuff that I liked.

[False Writer]

Thanks I guess? :p

[Zotis]

I think we should get this back on the road and just go at a slower pace that everyone can handle.

[AboveTheClouds]

Sure, sounds good to me.

[The Gunslinger45]

Works for me too.

[Guaporense]

Great. I though it died. :D

[Zotis]

It may just be the four of us though, as Swan doesn't pursue much extreme music and I'm not sure about False Writer. I like that False Writer likes Screamo and Deathcore though. And I wish Swan would just add Grindcore and old-school Hardcore/Metalcore/Crust to his regular template.

[AboveTheClouds]

Some people just experiment with it and see where it takes them, some people really end up having a passion for it.

[Zotis]

Have you seen the documentary, American Hardcore? The way they talked about that music is exactly how I felt when I was a teenager. I hated everything on the radio, but I knew awesome music that expressed how I felt had to be out there. I'm so grateful that extreme music exists. And I hate that cliche statement so many people make, "You can't understand what they're saying."

[False Writer]

Yeah sorry but I probably won't continue with this. No one liked the stuff I nominated anyway so there's really no point. Good luck though and hope it goes well.

[Zotis]

I liked the stuff you nominated. No one else besides you listens to Screamo...

[False Writer]

Screamo and emo are amazing. I've been listening to quite a bit lately, I guess I've been in a sour mood. :p

Indian Summer is a band you should definitely check out if you haven't already... I'm not sure if we talked about them before? :confused:

[Zotis]

Indian Summer are great. I listen to them from time to time.