Hockey Talk: NHL Thread and stuff

[chawhee]

Most teams in playoff spots at Christmas hold on...which would translate to the following this year:

5 Surprise teams that are IN:
Philadelphia
Vancouver
Arizona
Washington
Nashville

5 OUT:
Minnesota
Edmonton
Carolina
Tampa Bay
Pittsburgh

Some of these are more surprising (Philly, Edmonton) than others, but I'm sure a team or two will swap by springtime.

[Fabulous]

Carolina is the team I'm most surprised about. They've been such a well oiled machine during the previous regular seasons.

[Mesmerized]

Two questions for anyone who can answer these.

1. Why are there two separate broadcasts for the Boston Bruins and the Minnesota Wild? Does each team have their own camera crew and equipment and broadcast the games separately from the other team?

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2. What do the two sets of numbers in parenthesis mean on the bottom left? The (21-8-5) and the (18-12-2)?

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Thank you.

[Yoda]

Two questions for anyone who can answer these.

1. Why are there two separate broadcasts for the Boston Bruins and the Minnesota Wild? Does each team have their own camera crew and equipment and broadcast the games separately from the other team?
Yes, they each record the game independently, at least in cases where a national network isn't broadcasting. They'll have different announcers, stats (more emphasis on the home team), et cetera.

2. What do the two sets of numbers in parenthesis mean on the bottom left? The (21-8-5) and the (18-12-2)?
That's the team's record. There's three of them because in hockey you can tie/have OT/shootout losses, which are scored differently for the standings than normal losses.

[Mesmerized]

Thanks Yoda. That helps a lot in my understanding the games.

[Mesmerized]

The Florida Panthers just won their ninth game in a row. Amazing.

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[chawhee]

That last second winner was stunning to watch haha

Seattle and Winnipeg right on their heels with 8 in a row

EDIT: Edmonton at 9 in a row as well!

[Loner]

This should be everybody's first goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC693sN7C3s
Watched entirely too much hockey on Saturday.

[Dead2009]

Im enjoying the outdoor stuff, they need to do that more than a few games every year.

[chawhee]

Wild and Canucks putting up football scores here...

[Loner]

Goal of the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03uebX0RCpo

[chawhee]

Coyotes haven't won a game since before the All-Star break...they had so much promise the first third of the year or so.

[chawhee]

VGK is looking like a new team after this trade deadline...not sure if that will end up being a good or bad thing

[Loner]

Will The Coyotes just move and end this nonsense.

Finally it ends.

[chawhee]

Playoffs are set! I think a couple upsets may happen first glance...TB over Florida, Nashville over Vancouver. Obviously cheering for VGK over Dallas (which I think could easily happen)

[chawhee]

Not too many surprises on Day 1...though the absence of Nylander on Toronto is intriguing...

[Harry Lime]

Loner, may the best team win. And by 'best team' I mean the Oilers and by 'win' I mean they sweep the Kings and eliminate them for the third year in a row.

It's tough being a fan of a western conference team living in Toronto. 10 pm starts - I can't do it these days. I think I'm going to be watching in the mornings.

Also, enough, USA. This is getting to be a bit much. Canada needs a cup. I don't care what Canadian team wins. It's been over thirty years. We need this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35M2_c9jR0I

[Loner]

Loner, may the best team win. And by 'best team' I mean the Oilers and by 'win' I mean they sweep the Kings and eliminate them for the third year in a row.

If the Kings lose to The Oilers again, Rob Blake should be fired. Bad contracts, poor talent evaluation.

It's tough being a fan of a western conference team living in Toronto. 10 pm starts - I can't do it these days. I think I'm going to be watching in the mornings.

I lived in Maine in '88, really sucked.

Also, enough, USA. This is getting to be a bit much. Canada needs a cup. I don't care what Canadian team wins. It's been over thirty years. We need this.

Agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35M2_c9jR0I

[chawhee]

Maybe Hellebuyck is no longer a good playoff goalie...and unfortunate to see Demko out again

VGK going for game 2 tonight! Viva Mark Stone haha

[Loner]

Great news in the Pacific Northwest!

KING 5 partner with Seattle Kraken to broadcast more than 70 games starting in 2024

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VGMtQeTVp0

[chawhee]

VGK going for the sweep of Dallas...did not really see that coming. Surprised to see the Preds couldn't win at home.

[chawhee]

And now VGK is down 3-2...wow

Pietrangelo can be such a dumb arse sometimes

[Harry Lime]

One team down, three to go. Sorry Loner. But not really. Canucks or Preds? It will be interesting if it's an EDM vs VAN series. I'm happy with how the Oilers played this series. I hate the Knights so hoping they lose to Dallas.

[chawhee]

VGK has quickly become the NHL's most hated team haha

I'm cheering for Nashville...they gotta win at least one game at home, right?

Game 7 in Boston is gonna be outstanding. What a series for them to be up 3-1 for the second year in a row, and now I'm just hoping Matthews plays.

[Loner]

One team down, three to go. Sorry Loner. But not really. Canucks or Preds? It will be interesting if it's an EDM vs VAN series. I'm happy with how the Oilers played this series. I hate the Knights so hoping they lose to Dallas.

I'm still watching though.

[Fabulous]

Woll out injured for Game 7. Will be surprised if the Leafs manage to win.

[Harry Lime]

Well that series went exactly as expected. Like the tired out Fast and Furious franchise regurgitating the same crap year after year banking a few bucks along the way. People watch, eat their popcorn, and when it's done it joins the brain mush of the previous sequels (seasons) and expectations, and you can't even tell the difference between films anymore. Poor Leafs fans. I've lived here almost eight years now and I can feel it when talking to them, more and more each year. You can feel it in the streets. I'm sorry, guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pwdypqYb8

[chawhee]

A lot of people already thinking the Bruins get dragged by the Panthers, but I'm not so sure...Swayman can keep every game close now it seems.

[Fabulous]

The Leafs continue to be an utter embarrassment.

[chawhee]

Future remains bright for VGK, but Dallas certainly looked like the better team in Game 7.

[chawhee]

A lot of people already thinking the Bruins get dragged by the Panthers, but I'm not so sure...Swayman can keep every game close now it seems.

Game 1 no exception

[chawhee]

Well Bruins lost 3 in a row haha no thanks to a bad call by the officials to not overturn the goal by Bennett (cross-checked Coyle into Swayman before scoring)

[chawhee]

Bruins lose all 3 games at home...wow

Didn't expect Colorado to go out like that either

[pahaK]

Well Bruins lost 3 in a row haha no thanks to a bad call by the officials to not overturn the goal by Bennett (cross-checked Coyle into Swayman before scoring)

I still think that was the right call. It was an extremely light cross-check (dozens of harder ones aren't called every game), and the main reason Coyle went against Swayman was his skating trajectory. I don't want that kind of goal overturned.

And speaking of overturned goals, in the last DAL-COL game, there was one of the worst overturns I've ever seen. Thankfully, Dallas scored again, and justice was served.

A Finnish NHL viewer's dream final is still alive, FLA-DAL ;)

[chawhee]

It worked out for Edmonton, but Knoblauch's decision to start Skinner again could have really blown up in their faces...it will still be for naught if they can't win game 7

[Loner]

It would be great if The Oilers play The Panthers, but I don't think that will happen.

[chawhee]

Well the two "hungriest" teams in the West made the conference final...it's easy to think Dallas is the heavy favorite, but I still think Edmonton has a shot

EDIT: Panthers are actually a heavier favorite over the Rangers...that makes little sense to me

[chawhee]

What a game to start the Stars and Oilers series! Maybe this is the Oilers year...

[Harry Lime]

Not maybe...the Oilers will win. It's meant to be. The Cup is coming back to Canada.

[chawhee]

Oilers looked the part for the first 20 minutes last night haha

[Loner]

Oilers looked the part for the first 20 minutes last night haha

...and then 3 minutes later.

[Harry Lime]

Yeah but how about tonight eh?

[Loner]

Yeah but how about tonight eh?

This is why I just enjoy the games.

[chawhee]

Magnificent game last night for Edmonton after going down 0-2 quickly in the 1st. As good as Draisatl is though, he does seem to lazily turn the puck over a lot...

[chawhee]

Did not expect to see the Panthers make it to the Final after how they played the last month of the regular season...second year in a row they completely defied my expectations

[Loner]

Got to be tough to be a Maple Leafs fan. Either a Canadian team will win or Florida for the first time, but there is always 1967.

[Harry Lime]

Today was a good day.

[Harry Lime]

A lot of Leafs fans here in Toronto are cheering for the Oilers. I got a lot of texts and calls tonight. So many Ontario players on our team. Plus they want a Canadian team to win. Not like Canucks fans...salty rioters.

[chawhee]

Should be a great final! Cheering for Edmonton, but I'm expecting Florida to take it.

[Loner]

So who watched this?

I’m Just Here for the Riot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUDMUkpNFo8

[Harry Lime]

I watched it. Canucks fans...always making excuses.

[Loner]

I watched it. Canucks fans...always making excuses.

Do you remember this HL?

The Shoutbox 6/15/2011 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/shoutbox.php?page=12928)

[Loner]

Nachos and hockey, a Loner tradition.

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[chawhee]

The game felt closer than the final score indicates, but I dont think it would surprise many if the goalies end up being the difference here.

[Harry Lime]

Do you remember this HL?

The Shoutbox 6/15/2011 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/shoutbox.php?page=12928)
I do now! Wow did you remember that? If so, very impressive.

[Loner]

I do now! Wow did you remember that? If so, very impressive.

Yes I remembered that. Also game 1 is just game 1, what if The Oilers win 5-2?

I've also suffered a recent tragedy, my nachos are gone.

[chawhee]

Oilers just cant seem to get things going...Bob is just a little too good, Panthers are always just a half-step ahead, etc

[Harry Lime]

Okay then. That's one. And was it ever one! Breaking Bob

[chawhee]

Same as what's going on in the NBA...Florida taking a night off just to win at home I think

[Harry Lime]

Same as what's going on in the NBA...Florida taking a night off just to win at home I think
How did that work out for you?

[chawhee]

Haha well I didn't bet it or anything, but it worked out in the NBA. NHL is a bit different, and though I still think Florida wins the series, Edmonton's shot to win was way higher than the Mavs all along in my opinion.

[Loner]

I don't know why The NHL allows this to happen during the playoffs but goodbye Pierre-Luc Dubois. No salary retained from what I understand. Another Rob Blake addition through subtraction deal. :(

[chawhee]

The Markstrom deal was a bit surprising to see before July 1 as well. I'm not sure if that will truly vault the Devils back into the playoffs as a guarantee though.

[chawhee]

Game 7 it is! Craziness

[chawhee]

What a game, what a season...now we are in the dry spell of sports haha

[John W Constantine]

It has returned.

[chawhee]

Blues starting off 1-0 after being down 2 goals! A little surprised Seattle went with Grubauer instead of Daccord in goal...

Watching Utah's inaugural game was fun...I might have to try and go out there this season to watch a game

[chawhee]

VGK 1-0 now as well!

Toronto and Edmonton both shut out and Canucks blow a 4-1 lead to the Flames :laugh:

[chawhee]

Utah and Calgary both 3-0 and Edmonton starts 0-3....huh

[chawhee]

Didnt think it would come down to these 2, but who will win first...Nashville or San Jose?

[ueno_station54]

so what's the deal with John Tavares' magic amulet?

[hownos]

Utah is 4-1 -1

[chawhee]

Lets see how long VGK can keep this home winning streak going...8-0 now

[batmanforever1best]

Utah is 4-1 -1


They picking a nickname or just sticking with utah?

[ueno_station54]

They picking a nickname or just sticking with utah?
believe they're gonna have a new one next year, cowards. Utah HC is a sick name imo.

[hownos]

They picking a nickname or just sticking with utah?

they will come up with a name. they have to sell merch.

[chawhee]

VGK finally drops their home win streak to Carolina, who scares me more than Winnipeg as far as a contender.

[chawhee]

The story goes that NHL teams have shown their true colors by this point in the season...looks like Winnipeg and Carolina are juggernauts yet again (until they get to the playoffs) and the Blackhawks might get another first overall pick with how awful they have looked.

[ueno_station54]

PWHL season started today. hoping to follow more closely this year.

[chawhee]

All of this 4 Nations talk has me a little more excited than I anticipated...I'm curious how good these games will be come February

[chawhee]

Playoff forecasting irritates me every year...ESPN for example:

UTAH playoff chances: 73% (way too high for a team fighting for a wildcard spot with numerous other teams)
LA playoff chances: 64% (way too low considering they are currently 2nd in their division)
NAS playoff chances: 8% (also way too high for being statistically tied for the worst team in the league)
CHI playoff chances: 0% (tied with Nashville in points percentage...what a dumb analysis system)

[chawhee]

Quick update:

Utah still well out of a playoff spot, LA still top 3 in their division, Nashville and Chicago still bottom 5 in the league.

Also, VGK going through their annual January slump...lets see how long it lasts. And the Blues still can't win 3 games in a row.

[chawhee]

Another quick nonsensical playoff projection update...

-Islanders (who have a below .500 pts %) with a higher % chance of making the playoffs than the Blue Jackets (who are currently basically tied for a playoff spot)

[pahaK]

I think we just saw the season's biggest trade when Mikko Rantanen moved to Carolina. As a Finnish NHL fan, this trade cemented the Hurricanes as the most interesting team in the league (followed by Florida and Montreal).

[chawhee]

Necas fitting in well with Colorado so far

[pahaK]

Necas fitting in well with Colorado so far


Yeah, I think it's easier for him to adjust to Colorado's game than it is for Rantanen to Carolina's. Hurricanes have had quite a unique system since Brind’Amour took over.

[hownos]

The Utah team name is down to three:

The Utah Hockey Club
The Utah Mammoth
The Utah Wasatch.

[chawhee]

Gotta go with the Mammoth, though I saw they swapped out Wasatch for Outlaws.

JT Miller to the Rangers might be the shot in the arm they need to finally climb back into the playoffs.

VGK picks up another former Blue with Saad...I like the move

[ueno_station54]

Utah HC is such a sick name they're nuts to not stick with it.

[chawhee]

I didnt watch much of 4 Nations, but it seemed to pull a lot of interest compared to typical All-Start week draws of other sports. Cool to see Binnington earn some more stripes of a championship goalie.

Some teams definitely coming out flat after the break.

[chawhee]

Trade deadline over...Carolina has gone from a cup contender in December to a likely first-round exit of the playoffs. Wow haha

[chawhee]

Well maybe Carolina can get past New Jersey based on their recent problems...

Blues looking to make a Cup run similar to 2019 apparently ��

It all depends on playoff performance, but the Jets have consistently been the best team all year (and yet sportsbooks don't even have them top 5 to win it all)

[chawhee]

Playoffs anyone?

As far as upsets...Ottawa over Toronto could happen. Maybe the Blues can get playoff Hellebuyck and win that series. Even if Minnesota recaptures their early season strength, I'm not sure they can beat VGK. And I'm surprised to see the Kings as an underdog this year to Edmonton.

[hownos]

Playoffs anyone?

As far as upsets...Ottawa over Toronto could happen. Maybe the Blues can get playoff Hellebuyck and win that series. Even if Minnesota recaptures their early season strength, I'm not sure they can beat VGK. And I'm surprised to see the Kings as an underdog this year to Edmonton.

I am shocked the Canadiens made the playoffs.

I can see Ottawa beating Toronto,

[Harry Lime]

Here go again LA.

[Harry Lime]

To be honest I'm still feeling the effects of last year's Cup Final, down 0-3, win 3 games, then lose game 7 by a goal...That was tough.

[Loner]

Here go again LA.

Well The Kings won't get swept this year.

[chawhee]

Stars were, I think, technically the first underdog to win a game so far.

[ueno_station54]

worried about my panthers...

[pahaK]

worried about my panthers...

Based on the first half of the game, no reason to worry 🙂

[chawhee]

Ottawa came close last night, lets see what happens in Game 3.

Hopefully that was the lone game VGK needed to focus...

[chawhee]

Stars - Avs series just got a lot more interesting

[chawhee]

VGK might truly be upset this first round...Minnesota is looking like the November version of themselves

Maybe the Blues broke Hellebuyck, setting up a long series? I hope haha

Not sure why so many people were sold on the Lightning this year...I was pretty confident Florida would win that series from the start

[chawhee]

All 3 home teams down 0-2 won last night...didn't see that coming