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Sexy Celebrity
12-30-15, 11:47 PM
Mentally ill MoFos
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 12:12 AM
I'm here!
(Be here now.)
MovieGal
12-31-15, 12:13 AM
I find this thread a bit morally wrong... everyone has issues... no one is completely sane...
MovieGal
12-31-15, 12:19 AM
I have suffered from Depression... which Im sure everyone has and probably needs to be on medication but still .
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 12:25 AM
What do you have?
Not sure where to start.
Let's see... Depression (not clinical - most of my depression can be directly traced to circumstances... and I've got a lot of circumstances!)
I have a lot of strange neuroses & mental blocks.
I suffer from a unique form of Misophonia (and the jury is still out as to if this is a physical / neurological condition, a mental disorder or a combination of both).
That's just a few off the top of my head (more to come.)
I find this thread a bit morally wrong... everyone has issues... no one is completely sane...
Yes but to varying degrees, no doubt.
I suffer from depression and mood swings. It used to be real bad back in the day but it's gotten better and now I'm close to being perfectly sane. :up:
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 12:42 AM
Misophonia literally means "hatred of sound." But misophoniacs don't hate all sound, only specific ones. In fact sounds produced by fans, air conditioners or white noise machines are often used to drown out other sounds.
The most common "triggers" (which I can't relate to since these are not my triggers) are lip smacking, sounds people make when eating, gum chewing, gum "snapping" or popping, throat clearing, sniffing, whistling. For some reason most of these common triggers seem to focus on other people's oral habits. (No one seems to know why these are the common triggers).
My triggers are different and seem to have a lot to do with my personal environment being invaded by sound. I don't have a problem with the sounds people make when they eat! I have a problem with both high and low level sounds - someone's TV on in another room is like torture for me (and I used to live above and below people who'd leave their TV's on all night). It's the low level rumbling, randomness and nondescript muffled sound that drives me insane - I'd rather be in a room with a TV blasting than hear one through a wall.
Certain car engines parked outside my house. Bass percussion from car stereos (especially if someone parks a car outside my house playing music) sends me into a frenzy. Basketball percussion. Basically any non-steady sound that invades my space.
Does my gong bother you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHwbgIELCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpT6dVUIRXU
Can't. Resist. Counter-attack. :p
What do you have?
Paranoid schizophrenia and social anxiety.
What does it make you do?
I mainly deal with constant delusions and paranoia about things. I used to hear voices - I felt like I was hearing people's thoughts. This led me to believe that some people could read my thoughts. I either don't deal with that anymore, or it's faded into the background to where I don't notice it.
I still deal with major delusional thoughts and paranoia. I mean, it's not like it was during my mental breakdown of '12, when I couldn't even be at home for fear that my dad would steal my life force and turn me into a walking minion controlled by his thoughts, which I thought he was doing to people. But I do still deal with it, and some times it can be pretty bad.
How do you treat it and live with it?
You can only control/take care of your brain so much. It will do what it wants, for the most part.
I take my meds but I don't think that is my one and only "medicine". I think what helped me start living life again was socializing, having friends, having the support of people around me, and being interested in things. I focus on my music, on movies, and that means less time to think about what's going on in my brain. At least to some extent. I feel really grateful to have family and friends like I do. Some people with mental illness just don't have that kind of support, and to me that was the key to my recovery.
I actually really like this thread. I am very open about my illness and hope there are similar people who aren't afraid to speak up (though I understand if they are). This thread could be a very good thing.
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 12:59 AM
There are apparently different levels. But true misophonia goes beyond simple annoyance or irritation - everyone is annoyed by some sound at some time or another. For severe sufferers, the condition is like tinnitus - something completely beyond their control, and they end up feeling helpless because they're unable to deal with living in a constant state of both mental & physical pain. It's been described as sheer torture because there's often no way to escape it. I've read about people who go away from their families to eat in their room alone with ear muffs on. Some people can't even stand the sound of their own eating and end up anorexic besides.
Remarkably, one thing all misophoniacs have in common are the feelings of rage that arise. And the rage is torturous because it cannot be directed because the sources of the triggers are not anyone doing anything wrong in most cases.
The condition is also referred to a similar condition called Hyperacusis or 4-S (standing for "selective sound sensitivity syndrome").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia
Damn, you caught me. I'm secretly Luke Skywalker. :D
Damn, you caught me. I'm secretly Luke Skywalker. :D
So your sister is Princess Leia?
So your sister is Princess Leia?
Yes. But I also have another sister... hmmm...
Gatsby, I didn't know you have depression. I know a few people with major depression, and it seems like the worst. I'm really grateful not to have that alongside what I do have. I don't think I could cope. You're amazing people bro.
Yes. But I also have another sister... hmmm...
Gatsby, I didn't know you have depression. I know a few people with major depression, and it seems like the worst. I'm really grateful not to have that alongside what I do have. I don't think I could cope. You're amazing people bro.
Thanks Swan. But like schizophrenia, if you have something to distract you, it's okay. I teach basic writing to kids, listen to classes, fool around here, do my best to socialize etc., it makes the day fly by fast. I used to be alone at home a lot (both of my parents work, and still do) and that was no fun for em.
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 01:32 AM
For Misophonia, the best people can do is develop coping mechanisms as there is no cure or treatment.
Some studies now suggest it may be more a physical condition having to do with neurological audio pathways that stimulate parts of the brain that cause rage or fear responses.
It's horrible to feel so out of control by something as simple as a sound. Best thing people can do, if they can't remove the trigger, is remove themselves from the trigger.
Noise cancelling headphones, ear muffs (I use the kind used at firing ranges), ear plugs, and sound-maskers (fans, stereos, white noise machines) are coping tools. Sometimes these backfire - as my own ear muffs will cancel out ambient noise, but the vibration of a car engine or boom box will still be felt in my chest - which makes the trigger more prominent.
I've read a lot of the sensitivity has to do with your emotional state and what's going on in your life. The more depressed, unfulfilled or out of control you already feel, the worse the misophonia will be. But it you're active, exercise, sleep well, eat right, have positive relationships & friendships, varied interests, hobbies, and most importantly have or are working toward a fulfilling purpose or goal - these are all ways to improve your emotional state & focus on external things which seems to lower sensitivity in some people.
My situation improved remarkably this past year due to a few triggers disappearing - a lady with a loud, non-stop, barking dog moved away, the people across the street's kids seemed to lose interest in the basketball hoop they set up (which was right outside my bedroom window), and at another house across the street, I think a girl broke up with her boyfriend who would come there with this horribly rumbling car engine that he'd just park & let run outside my house.
Sorry to go on about this - but I haven't really talked to anyone about it.
Most people haven't heard of it, aren't interested or think you're just describing common disturbance (but you're being an over-sensitive, whiny, little girly-man about it!) :)
I should be on anti depressants but I've yet to sign up for health insurance.
Apparently they extended the deadline so I have until january 1st to sign up on healthcare.gov so like.. less than a day. But I've never taken anything like that and I guess I don't have a lot of faith in their ability to help me. Although recreational drugs feel good so I should probably be more optimistic about pharmaceutical ones.
I remember a john waters movie with johnny knoxville as a sex maniac trying to convince everyone not to take anti depressants because it kills your sex drive. Since my GF lives 8 hours away now it's not really a consideration these days.
For Misophonia, the best people can do is develop coping mechanisms as there is no cure or treatment.
Well.. if it is truly unbearable.. you can always make yourself deaf.
Plenty of deaf people live happy and productive lives.
Granted it would need to be extreme to take such extreme measures.
Sexy Celebrity
12-31-15, 01:35 AM
I remember a john waters movie with johnny knoxville as a sex maniac trying to convince everyone not to take anti depressants because it kills your sex drive.
A Dirty Shame.
So in my beer pong days, throwing a 2.8 oz ball for a $50,000 prize you'd have a dozen of your opponents friends screaming in your face from 2 feet away. really loud obnoxious people from new york and new jersey, etc.
The way I coped with this was not noise canceling headphones or ear muffs, neither of those are as effective at blocking out sound as what I used. I bought special head phones that were like ear plugs you would wear at a shooting range. But the ear plug had a wire going through it and a speaker to play music INSIDE of your ear. It was the most effective by far at removing any audio stimulus.
Sexy Celebrity
12-31-15, 01:44 AM
For Misophonia, the best people can do is develop coping mechanisms as there is no cure or treatment.
Noise cancelling headphones, ear muffs (I use the kind used at firing ranges)
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=23501&stc=1&d=1451540598
All so he won't have to hear his neighbors' TV.
Some studies now suggest it may be more a physical condition having to do with neurological audio pathways that stimulate parts of the brain that cause rage or fear responses.
You know -- I bet it's psychological. Why is it you have no problem hearing fans, stereos and other sources of "white noise" -- but you can't stand hearing your neighbors or people chewing?
Deep psychological reasons sound like the culprit. You people are just deeply angry at others. You can't stand knowing that other people are enjoying television, enjoying their lives.
I've read a lot of the sensitivity has to do with your emotional state and what's going on in your life. The more depressed, unfulfilled or out of control you already feel, the worse the misophonia will be.
Sure. You're pissed off and unhappy with your life. You're looking for ways to take out the anger. Getting angry and getting annoyed at sounds keeps you from thinking about your own problems, your own misery. It gives you an excuse to vent, to feel angry, so you won't feel the depression.
But it you're active, exercise, sleep well, eat right, have positive relationships & friendships, varied interests, hobbies, and most importantly have or are working toward a fulfilling purpose or goal - these are all ways to improve your emotional state & focus on external things which seems to lower sensitivity in some people.
'Cause if you're happy, you won't mind that other people are happy.
My situation improved remarkably this past year due to a few triggers disappearing - a lady with a loud, non-stop, barking dog moved away, the people across the street's kids seemed to lose interest in the basketball hoop they set up (which was right outside my bedroom window), and at another house across the street, I think a girl broke up with her boyfriend who would come there with this horribly rumbling car engine that he'd just park & let run outside my house.
You hated all these people being happy, I think. You hated the lady having a dog. You hated the kids outside playing and being young and happy. You hated the girl's boyfriend because he had a girl and was getting laid and all that. That's my suspicion.
Sorry to go on about this - but I haven't really talked to anyone about it.
Most people haven't heard of it, aren't interested or think you're just describing common disturbance (but you're being an over-sensitive, whiny, little girly-man about it!) :)
I'm interested, as I've told you. Though -- watch out. People tend to hate what I have to say.
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 01:51 AM
Well.. if it is truly unbearable.. you can always make yourself deaf.
Plenty of deaf people live happy and productive lives.
Granted it would need to be extreme to take such extreme measures.
As crazy as it sounds, there were times I wished I was deaf.
Although, as described, some sounds are actually vibrations I feel in my chest. If it's at that percussive frequency it really drives me insane - like the car I described. I could "feel" it more than I could "hear" it. So for those vibrations, even being deaf might not help.
I also love music and a lot of other sounds - so there's that.
Ironically, I like the sound of a train that often wakes me up by blowing its whistle at 3:00 in the morning. I don't like being woken up, but I just like the sound of trains - especially the chug-chug sound on the tracks in the distance.
And I live a block away from a firehouse - the siren is annoying, but that's it - it's just loud & annoying. I don't have a misophonic reaction to it (probably because I know its duration when it goes off). I was peeved a few years ago when they changed the siren to sound twice whenever it goes off - a 30 second blast, a 30 second interval, followed by another 30 second blast. It's annoying that it now goes off twice every time. I'm so close to it that it's almost deafening when it goes off, but again, it's simply an annoyance, it's not like the Chinese water torture of my triggers.
Very weird, isn't it?
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 02:01 AM
I liked your theories, Sexy.
I did learn to hate the lady with the dog - because she was inconsiderate & she turned out to be psycho.
But I like the people with the kids & the basketball hoop.
And I'm cool with the people who had the daughters with the boyfriends.
Here's where I have to contest your theory - there were 2 girls in the house across the street and they both had boyfriends come "visit."
So from my POV, both boyfriends were getting laid. So why was the only one that infuriated me the one with the loud car? ;)
And when he stopped coming around, the other boyfriend was still coming there (to get laid), yet I had no feelings of rage toward him even if I'd go out and see his (nice, quiet) car there.
In all seriousness, doctors & psychologists are undecided whether it's a physical or mental condition as there are attributes that seem to suggest both.
Sexy Celebrity
12-31-15, 02:08 AM
I liked your theories, Sexy.
I did learn to hate the lady with the dog - because she was inconsiderate & she turned out to be psycho.
But I like the people with the kids & the basketball hoop.
And I'm cool with the people who had the daughters with the boyfriends.
Here's where I have to contest your theory - there were 2 girls in the house across the street and they both had boyfriends come "visit."
So from my POV, both boyfriends were getting laid. So why was the only one that infuriated me the one with the loud car? ;)
And when he stopped coming around, the other boyfriend was still coming there (to get laid), yet I had no feelings of rage toward him even if I'd go out and see his (nice, quiet) car there.
In all seriousness, doctors & psychologists are undecided whether it's a physical or mental condition as there are attributes that seem to suggest both.
I think because -- and this is kinda based on some stuff I've heard before -- you have selective psychological "excuses" for when you're allowed to feel the rage you have inside you.
Loud car = an excuse to get angry. To vent your anger and have an excuse for why you're doing it. If it's a quiet car, you don't have the excuse. You can't tell people, "That quiet car is driving me crazy!" You have to have the louder car as an excuse to be angry. It could also represent all your frustrations and rage with guys who are coming over to visit their girls. Not just that one guy, but all of them.
With the kids and the basketball hoop... it might be unconscious rage. You aren't really aware of something about it that is frustrating you. Maybe you're envious that you can't go outside and play hoops, too? Maybe you wish you were young again. It might not be a hatred of THEM -- it could be sadness. You're sad that you can't be young and play basketball, be a carefree kid again.
All of these things build up rage inside of you and you vent/express it through this thing called "misophonia." That is my psychological theory about it. Misophonia is an excuse. You can deal just fine with other sounds. The sounds you're angry about -- that drive you crazy -- represent deep psychological issues you have within yourself. Something about those sounds represents an issue you have. Something that makes you angry or sad or something.
Captain Steel
12-31-15, 02:25 AM
Your theories sound good, and I'm not trying to discredit them or say there may not be some truth to them.
But the same kids who got the basketball hoop would play outside before the hoop showed up - yet hearing them play or scream didn't effect me - so if it was a case where I wished I could play, or be young again, or be free, or have friends, or have kids, or be a young dad with a hot wife, or whatever, then I should've had a reaction. I should've turned the sound of little sneakers on the pavement or screaming, or tricycle horns into a trigger - an excuse to feel that latent rage. But I didn't start having a reaction until I heard (or felt) the basketball. When they are still out there playing (something other than basketball) I have no reaction.
How do you apply these theories to the more "typical" misos? Not that there's anything typical about the condition, but for the people who say, can't stand to hear anyone chewing, whether it's their brother who they've lived with all their life or a stranger at the next table in a restaurant?
What intrigues me is the selective nature of it - why some sounds become triggers and others don't.
Not that this has anything to do with it, but you know those mouse repellers that you plug in and they emit a sonic frequency? I've always been able to "hear" those - and I don't blame the mice for leaving because they are quite annoying.
Sexy Celebrity
12-31-15, 02:44 AM
Your theories sound good, and I'm not trying to discredit them or say there may not be some truth to them.
But the same kids who got the basketball hoop would play outside before the hoop showed up - yet hearing them play or scream didn't effect me - so if it was a case where I wished I could play, or be young again, or be free, or have friends, or have kids, or be a young dad with a hot wife, or whatever, then I should've had a reaction. I should've turned the sound of little sneakers on the pavement or screaming, or tricycle horns into a trigger - an excuse to feel that latent rage. But I didn't start having a reaction until I heard (or felt) the basketball. When they are still out there playing (something other than basketball) I have no reaction.
Selective excuses.
It's not acceptable -- psychologically -- in your unconscious mind -- to complain about sneakers, or kids laughing/screaming/playing. Even tricycles aren't something to complain about. But the basketball -- that was acceptable. That was psychologically risk-free to complain about. To be annoyed at. Maybe even the basketball itself represents something in your past that bothers you. It could be related to some other event, something that may have traumatized you.
How do you apply these theories to the more "typical" misos? Not that there's anything typical about the condition, but for the people who say, can't stand to hear anyone chewing, whether it's their brother who they've lived with all their life or a stranger at the next table in a restaurant?
I think we live in a victim oriented culture. I think -- for example, this misophonia thing -- I think a lot of people have issues that are not biologically based, but are actually psychological. I think the mind is a very powerful thing and a lot of times, people's issues are not biological - not something they're born with and can't control -- I believe in psychology and psychological reasons behind things. The "victim oriented culture" are the people who hide behind their issues and use excuses for all their problems -- a common one, I believe, is "I was born this way and I can't change it. I'm a victim of my own genetics. My brain is this way -- I can't change who I am." It's not a popular opinion at all -- in fact, I'm saying something that would probably largely be considered unpopular.
But I think that's what it is. I think you have a psychological need to have misophonia. Now, I'm not saying all mental illness is "all in your head." I don't know what to say about Swan and his schizophrenia. That could very well be real. But this misophonia thing.... I think it's bull. I think your mind and your psyche has been set up to experience these issues.
What intrigues me is the selective nature of it - why some sounds become triggers and others don't.
Think about the sounds that don't bother you. You don't have a misophonic reaction to the firehouse sirens. Firemen are helpful heroes who provide a good service to society. You seem to like heroes. Look at your Superman avatar. Why would you be bothered by good people, heroes like firemen? You're not bothered, because you respect them and they don't make you angry. So you don't have a psychological hangup there.
Not that this has anything to do with it, but you know those mouse repellers that you plug in and they emit a sonic frequency? I've always been able to "hear" those - and I don't blame the mice for leaving because they are quite annoying.
Do you really hear them or do you just imagine it? You don't like the mice repellers. It's a bad service. It's hurting the mice. You don't like that.
Unofrtunately something being in our heads makes it no less real.
As our father who art in zion, morpheus tells us, that what you can see, feel, hear and taste is no more than electrical impulses interpreted by our brain.
Pindrop
12-31-15, 03:03 AM
So are we all mentally ill?
So are we all mentally ill?
Not sexy celebrity. He's a zen master.
MovieGal
12-31-15, 12:31 PM
So are we all mentally ill?
everyone suffers from some type of mental illness because none of our brains are completely working properly....
everyone has some type of chemical imbalance.
Guaporense
12-31-15, 12:39 PM
Metal illness is a myth:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Mental-Illness-Foundations/dp/0061771228
cricket
12-31-15, 12:41 PM
I jerk off an insane amount. Does that count?
I used to be quite bad when I was about 13-15/16, in that I used to be quite badly depressed and I was very panicky. Luckily though things got better quite quickly, although I still get a little anxious at times, but usually during normal situations like waiting to sit an exam and stuff like that.
I have no idea how I got over it though, I remember my counsellor being a bit of a prick, but I think what I was diagnosed with (Adjustment Disorder/Situational Depression) is only temporary anyway, although looking back, leaving my school probably had quite a bit to do with me getting over it too!
MovieGal
12-31-15, 12:49 PM
along with my depression .. i do have a bit of a obsessive compulsive disorder.. I will actually count as I do certain things or i will do things the exact same way everyday and nothing better throw me out of sync...
my daughter says I have an adrenaline issue... as well... i have an extremely high heart rate.. not blood pressure but heart rate... even when sitting in a chair resting for 30 minutes or so.... like 188bpm
Mr Minio
12-31-15, 12:52 PM
I jerk off an insane amount. Does that count? I always knew you were one kinky bastard.
MovieGal
12-31-15, 12:54 PM
I jerk off an insane amount. Does that count?
That is still continuing.. you have that for at least 1 year... go to the doctor!!!
cricket
12-31-15, 12:57 PM
That is still continuing.. you have that for at least 1 year... go to the doctor!!!
Does a massage therapist count?
MovieGal
12-31-15, 12:59 PM
Does a massage therapist count?
No!
BlueLion
12-31-15, 01:01 PM
I jerk off an insane amount. Does that count?
http://i.imgur.com/ee7IoAx.png
Guaporense
12-31-15, 09:39 PM
Well, I guess tend to get obssessed with things more than the average person.
matt72582
12-31-15, 10:08 PM
I think everyone has a varying degree of every characteristic. How someone handles today will be different than tomorrow. Many "experts" want to cash-in, and have a disorder so there's treatment.
I've always loved being alone. Though I love being around people I like, and could hang out all the time. In the last few years, I'm not as excited about going to concerts, etc., because of modern society. The phones, what people talk about, the music and movie culture or lack of it makes me NOT wanna hang out. My goal is to live alone forever and to never accidentally have a kid!
The only medication I take is Xanax. I take it at about 8:30 and hope to go to bed around midnight. I threw in the towel years ago - I wanna get my sleep, and I don't care what it takes. I have tried other medication to help me sleep, and they were all junk, lots of side effects, and I would never take anything else.
Maybe some people aren't depressed. Maybe we just need a reason to get out of the house. I rather watch a great movie!
Captain Steel
01-01-16, 02:44 PM
I think everyone has a varying degree of every characteristic. How someone handles today will be different than tomorrow. Many "experts" want to cash-in, and have a disorder so there's treatment.
I've always loved being alone. Though I love being around people I like, and could hang out all the time. In the last few years, I'm not as excited about going to concerts, etc., because of modern society. The phones, what people talk about, the music and movie culture or lack of it makes me NOT wanna hang out. My goal is to live alone forever and to never accidentally have a kid!
The only medication I take is Xanax. I take it at about 8:30 and hope to go to bed around midnight. I threw in the towel years ago - I wanna get my sleep, and I don't care what it takes. I have tried other medication to help me sleep, and they were all junk, lots of side effects, and I would never take anything else.
Maybe some people aren't depressed. Maybe we just need a reason to get out of the house. I rather watch a great movie!
Similar here. I think Swan called it social anxiety.
If that's a thing, then I've got that. When I was little it was shyness, intense shyness. School was always a nightmare. I find crowds particularly uncomfortable. I've always been reclusive & introverted.
In recent years I discovered that I don't like "parties." It never really occurred to me because I thought that the simple concept of a party should be universally fun for everyone, yet I always felt anxiety about attending them, would want to leave in the midst of them, and feel relieved getting away from them. Instead of a party atmosphere, I much prefer talking with a small group of people in a quiet setting or talking with someone one on one.
matt72582
01-01-16, 05:25 PM
I had friends who loved parties, so I'd go but I didn't like most people, and you could never have a conversation really. It was a bunch of kids drinking, smoking, playing horribly music. If I don't like the music, I don't even wanna be in the house, especially when the little chatter that is going on is really stupid. There are exceptions, but I love groups under 10. So I act accordingly to get the conversation I want. It's a big reason I like to travel, and will travel (just in the US - SF) - for conversation. If I'm in Thailand, not only am I in a foreign country, but living in a hostel, you're surrounded with people from many countries, and you share everything, so the social situations are much easier. Nothing contrived - guys and girls slept, ate, relaxed, etc., in the same room. Couchsurfing was "out there" - it's a travel community, and "free" is stressed, and accommodation is what it's centered around, even though it makes for only a portion of the interaction. I guess by doing many different things, you see what you like, what you are most comfortable with, etc. At this point, I want to be as free as possible, and until I change my mind, stay away from any drama, and not letting anything tempt me.
I've never minded crowds, if it's someone else' concert. There's been over a hundred times where I was around about 20,000 people for a music or sports event. Though I've been playing live since I was 15, I still get a little nervous. I once played for 1,500 people, and had a drum solo, with everyone exiting. Not only do I do things better alone, even when I'm alone and hit RECORD my playing isn't as experimental, so lately I try to just record the beat so I don't forget it, and go back enjoying music for itself, the joy of doing it, and not showing it off later on.
My problem is what's going on in my head. I wish it could relax, the ongoing commentary gets overwhelming sometimes. Going through scenarios that have happened, or might happen, or might never happen (more fantasy which I don't mind), but even in this message, I'm just typing what I'm thinking.
Guaporense
01-01-16, 05:33 PM
I think everyone has a varying degree of every characteristic. How someone handles today will be different than tomorrow. Many "experts" want to cash-in, and have a disorder so there's treatment.
I've always loved being alone. Though I love being around people I like, and could hang out all the time. In the last few years, I'm not as excited about going to concerts, etc., because of modern society. The phones, what people talk about, the music and movie culture or lack of it makes me NOT wanna hang out. My goal is to live alone forever and to never accidentally have a kid!
When I was 17 I was super excited to eat a burger out with friends. Now I usually choose to watch a movie or read a manga at home in many cases. Maybe because my friends are not as cool as they were in highschool.
The only medication I take is Xanax. I take it at about 8:30 and hope to go to bed around midnight. I threw in the towel years ago - I wanna get my sleep, and I don't care what it takes. I have tried other medication to help me sleep, and they were all junk, lots of side effects, and I would never take anything else.
Maybe some people aren't depressed. Maybe we just need a reason to get out of the house. I rather watch a great movie!
I also had problems getting to sleep. My solution? Just decided that my body should deserve all the time it needs to sleep and so I usually wake up around 11:00 AM. Since I work in academia and I teach my classes around 5 PM I can afford that. :sick: Once I had to teach for 1 hour and 30 minutes at 9:45 AM, OMG that was horrible and I felt like I was going to die by the end.
Senso_68
01-01-16, 05:33 PM
You're just an introvert and it's not an illness.
Captain Steel
01-01-16, 05:43 PM
Funny, I attended a Christmas party at a friend's house last week and it's ironic that it involved so many things already discussed here, including noise aversion...
I was seated in the dining room where they had Christmas music playing on the stereo - that part was fine. But directly next to the stereo speakers they had a TV on, blasting a violent movie. In the kitchen, off the dining room, I could both see & hear another TV, tuned into a different channel on a counter top. In a room above the dining room, kids were playing video games which shook the whole dining room. The hostess even commented how the video games sounded like thunder over our heads. Simultaneously, some of the young people were playing videos, music or using the speakers on their handheld devices, while yelling into them for phone calls.
You couldn't listen to or enjoy any of it (if that was the intent), no less try to have a conversation. So I didn't see why a noise-making device had to be blasting in every room. I have a hard time understanding why people think this creates a warm or comfortable atmosphere, is conducive to reconnecting to old acquaintances, or that it's somehow "normal."
So you had people trying to talk in each room with music from the stereo, two TV's blasting different stations, people yelling into or playing music on cell phones, and video game explosions overhead - I don't know how anyone felt this was a comfortable atmosphere - it was more like a cacophony designed to torture people.
I have diagnosed social anxiety. The difference between that and introversion is, at my worst I literally couldn't go out of the house or be around people. I was a complete recluse. Severity differs from person to person but it's a bit different from introversion. Introversion is simply not wanting to go out and be around people. Social anxiety is being terrified at the prospect of going out and being around people.
What's funny is, I don't even know if I'm an introvert. I spend a lot of time inside and enjoy doing stuff like being on here, watching movies, making music etc. but at the same time I have found I enjoy socializing too. So it's entirely possible I'm an extrovert with social anxiety. Which is, as you can image, loads of fun. :p
Fortunately my anxiety is not nearly as bad as it was at its peak. I still get nervous sometimes but I've more or less overcome the really crippling stuff. I have friends that I hang out with a lot now, and find I enjoy being around people again.
Senso_68
01-01-16, 05:54 PM
Introverts tire quickly in social interactions. You can have a social anxiety and be an extrovert, you can be shy and extrovert at the same time.
Guaporense
01-01-16, 06:17 PM
You're just an introvert and it's not an illness.
I don't believe in mental illness.
Guaporense
01-01-16, 06:18 PM
I have diagnosed social anxiety. The difference between that and introversion is, at my worst I literally couldn't go out of the house or be around people. I was a complete recluse. Severity differs from person to person but it's a bit different from introversion. Introversion is simply not wanting to go out and be around people. Social anxiety is being terrified at the prospect of going out and being around people.
I though you said you had aspengers?
MovieGal
01-01-16, 06:20 PM
There is a huge difference in us who have seen a doctor and the people who think they know as much as a doctor..
I know for myself personally.. I know the extent of my illness however I do not act on it.... I have learned to control it by self control or prescription drugs. its kind of hard on here when you arent really around that person physically to determine exactly whats wrong with them..
Believe me Im an evil bitch and I learned to shut up and step back... because if I was to let it all go... Yoda would have banned me by now...
cricket
01-01-16, 06:27 PM
I wish I had something. If there's one group of people I envy, it's the mentals. It's a built-in excuse to get away with doing the wrong thing.
I wish I had something. If there's one group of people I envy, it's the mentals. It's a built-in excuse to get away with doing the wrong thing.
spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about
I don't believe in mental illness.
The brain is a physical organ, and you think it's impossible for it to not function correctly?
This is one of the dumbest things I've heard on here. It's also really offensive to people who struggle with mental illness on a daily basis.
MovieGal
01-01-16, 06:46 PM
I wish I had something. If there's one group of people I envy, it's the mentals. It's a built-in excuse to get away with doing the wrong thing.
No it not.. we are still held as accountable as everyone else....
cricket
01-01-16, 07:12 PM
Can't a mentally ill person sometimes take therapy as an alternative to punishment?
SilentVamp
01-01-16, 07:14 PM
My brother has OCD. Yes, the disease that people either like to claim they have or like to make fun of. Both of which annoy the hell out of me. He has been diagnosed with what they called "textbook OCD". It is bad.
My brother had graduated high school not too long before it "officially" started (I don't know a better word for it). This was in 1988. So, it wasn't at a time when OCD was talked about so much so that he could make anything up. He was out with my father at a restaurant. And for no reason, when they left, he took a napkin to push in his chair and to open the door. He wouldn't touch anything. By the next day he was a different person.
It seemed to happen so fast how bad he became. It was various different things. My one brother always talks about how that other brother was standing in the corner of the room when he left for work, and when he came home, he was still there. He spent hours folding a towel. Over and over again until he felt it was right. He ended up sitting in the corner of the living room for days. He chose a spot. And he sat there with his arms in the air. He couldn't put them down. Finally, my mother was begging him to drink some juice (after he'd been like that for so long) and she accidentally touched him. All I will say is that he went into a rage. Oh my God, if you would've dared to have touched him (or touched anything that belonged to him). It was horrible. Nobody knows unless they lived with it. I can clearly remember the time when he was standing with his arms up and all he did was cry because he couldn't seem to do anything else about it.
He always has to do his rituals. When he was living at home, he would, quite often, get "stuck" in them. This generally happened when he was in a doorway. He would have to step a certain amount of times before he could go through. And if he would mess that ritual up just slightly he would have to do it all over again. Rituals are a big, and always will be a big, part of his life. These rituals are mainly things that he has to do in his head - involving numbers and counting. He gets uncontrollable thoughts in his head that he doesn't like. So, then he will have to do a ritual to get them out of his head. I talked him into going to a movie with me a few years ago. And something happened in that movie that he put a thought in his mind. He spent the rest of the movie doing his rituals.
He was a hand washer. I don't think he is as bad with that now. But if he is going to go away (i.e. doctor, grocery store, et.c.), he will spend the entire day beforehand making sure he is clean enough before he goes. I know he said that he is now more worried about other people getting his germs rather than it being my brother getting the germs from other people. But when he did wash his hands, they would bleed. He even got to the point to where he was washing his money! That was terrible.
My parents got him into the county's mental hospital, which was horrible. Don't say there is no such thing as mental illness until you have been there. Then they sent him to Madison, which is far enough away from here, to be examined. And that is when they diagnosed him with having "textbook OCD". He is never going to get better. All he can do is "control" it. That is it.
He lives on his own. He has been doing it for about 20 years. He is on medication. What is strange, though, is how you can tell when he hasn't had any. Even over the phone, he is a different person. And his rituals become more frequent then.
This is what his life is now. And it will be until the day he dies. He even said, a few months ago, that I have no idea how horrible a thought it is to know that he will never be better. That he has to be like this. He doesn't want to be that way. So if anyone thinks it is a choice, or it isn't real, they have never known someone who has something that bad.
cricket
01-01-16, 07:18 PM
That's heartbreaking and terrifying, Vamp.
MovieMeditation
01-01-16, 07:26 PM
I don't suffer from any illnesses as far as I know, but I did have a depression a while back. It was a horrible time and I have had a few short fallbacks but not to the same degree as it once was. I'm starting to feel like I have more or less overcome it by now. But then again, things like that will always lurk right under the surface; or at least that's how it sometimes feels.
I though you said you had aspengers?
No, schizophrenia and social anxiety.
I wish I had something. If there's one group of people I envy, it's the mentals. It's a built-in excuse to get away with doing the wrong thing.
Why do you want to do the wrong thing?
You're not necessarily wrong, if I'm having symptoms I've noticed people will be lenient with me, but - at least with what I have - you don't want it. Trust me. I'd give anything not to have to deal with this bullsh*t. It's not fun. I feel like some people romanticize it when really it's pretty much all shite.
Sexy Celebrity
01-01-16, 07:35 PM
I though you said you had aspengers?
No, schizophrenia and social anxiety.
Swan is too hardcore for Aspergers. He has to have full blown Schizophrenia. Aspergers is kid stuff.
I've had paruresis (shy bladder) most of my life but it's never been crippling. Mostly just an inconvenience and frustration since it is a part of my body that I'm helpless to control. I would plan around it, not drink at beer pong tournaments, etc and it was no problem to go out for 6 hours without voiding.
But now with the comorbidity of my other bladder problems (interstitial cystitis, dysuria) it's the worst. Now it's a physical problem too that makes it really difficult to void. Some people become 100% reliant on catheters. But I tried one of those once, i turned white and my whole body instantly became damp and i almost threw up or passed not. Not sure which but catheters are not an answer for me.
But anyway with this physical problem now on my good days when I'm not drinking any water I can last for about 2 hours. On a bad day every 5 minutes. It's super painful to have anything in my bladder, it feels acidic, and it's completely impossible to use any public restroom since I can barely even use a private one now. It's such a mess I haven't been able to work for 2 years. Sometimes I'll wake up 18 times in a night and I can be in bed for 14 hours and still not be rested because my sleep quality is so bad. Maybe if I didn't have the paruresis too I'd be able to still live a somewhat normal life.. maybe not because of the pain and concentration issues. But this comorbidity is a kick in the balls.
Why do you want to do the wrong thing?
You're not necessarily wrong, if I'm having symptoms I've noticed people will be lenient with me, but - at least with what I have - you don't want it. Trust me. I'd give anything not to have to deal with this bullsh*t. It's not fun. I feel like some people romanticize it when really it's pretty much all shite.
I mean, I don't really think cricket has thought this through. If you had a mental illness like schizophrenia you're not just walking around completely fine and sane and then if something happens and you do something odd, you get away with it. Unless you're with other mentally ill people who understand what's going on, people won't want to be around you at all. But above all else, you have to deal with delusions, paranoia, hallucinations and voices - and those are just what are considered the "positive symptoms" - everyday. It's a lot of bullsh*t and you can feel really hopeless.
Yeah, you might get away with some stuff, but it's not like I can just do anything and people will be like "oh! It's okay! He has schizophrenia! Let's party!"
The worst thing about schizophrenia to me, is the feeling that it's entirely empty. My hallucinations, voices etc. don't MEAN anything. They just exist. They're futile. They just cause mental chaos and ruin my life.
MovieMeditation
01-01-16, 07:44 PM
Since people mention it, though not an illness, I would say I'm an introvert.
If people don't know what it is they should look it up, because at first I didn't want to call myself that. Then I found it that it does NOT mean you are this lonely weirdo who are afraid of everything and is mentally sick. It's more or less just an explanation for your personality and how you go about daily life and how you handle situations differently than others.
Some of the basics of it is how I don't mind being alone, I kind of like it actually, and I don't get lonely because of it either. I'm creative and like to finish my works before I present them. I like to prepare what I say or do sometimes, because I want them to be done right. I like being out and socializing, but I often need to "recover" from such things by being alone and in a calm place afterwards. If I'm too much out between a lot of people, noises, things I tend to get grumpy or tired. But I love a fun night with friends and usually I'm the one speaking the loudest, cracking the most jokes and talking like there's no tomorrow.
All of these things are usually a sign of being introverted and some of what I say here and some of which I know contradicts with the fact that I should have anything like a social anxiety or something like that. I'm pretty sure I'm just introverted, not to say that this can't be a challenge in itself and not to say that it is on a daily basis. But I'm happy to say that I am since that helps me understand myself and know that I'm perfectly normal and that there's plenty of people like me.
cricket
01-01-16, 07:50 PM
Why do you want to do the wrong thing?
You're not necessarily wrong, if I'm having symptoms I've noticed people will be lenient with me, but - at least with what I have - you don't want it. Trust me. I'd give anything not to have to deal with this bullsh*t. It's not fun. I feel like some people romanticize it when really it's pretty much all shite.
I was being silly. I have a lot of sympathy for you maniacs.
Sexy Celebrity
01-01-16, 07:50 PM
The worst thing about schizophrenia to me, is the feeling that it's entirely empty. My hallucinations, voices etc. don't MEAN anything. They just exist. They're futile. They just cause mental chaos and ruin my life.
When you're experiencing/suffering through an episode... are you really "there?" Like, are you cognizant that you're going through it? You just really do believe in your delusions?
Does it feel "real" or does it feel like a dream? They say dreams are kinda like experiencing mental illness, because in dreams, you totally believe in the dream reality, whatever it is, as if it's real.
Have you ever gone out in public having schizophrenia and done things like shouting insane stuff for everyone to hear?
I've seen a lot of ... schizo and mentally ill people in public. In fact, just the other day, a young guy walked over towards me and said something and I thought he was asking me a question -- he was asking HIMSELF a question. He then proceeded to keep asking himself questions and talking to himself, out loud. Like all the thoughts we have while thinking, but keep to ourselves... he was broadcasting them.
No problem cricket. You're my bro. I was kind of confused by your post to be honest, but it gave me a chance to ramble. Sorry for misunderstanding.
Since people mention it, though not an illness, I would say I'm an introvert.
If people don't know what it is they should look it up, because at first I didn't want to call myself that. Then I found it that it does NOT mean you are this lonely weirdo who are afraid of everything and is mentally sick. It's more or less just an explanation for your personality and how you go about daily life and how you handle situations differently than others.
Some of the basics of it is how I don't mind being alone, I kind of like it actually, and I don't get lonely because of it either. I'm creative and like to finish my works before I present them. I like to prepare what I say or do sometimes, because I want them to be done right. I like being out and socializing, but I often need to "recover" from such things by being alone and in a calm place afterwards. If I'm too much out between a lot of people, noises, things I tend to get grumpy or tired. But I love a fun night with friends and usually I'm the one speaking the loudest, cracking the most jokes and talking like there's no tomorrow.
All of these things are usually a sign of being introverted and some of what I say here and some of which I know contradicts with the fact that I should have anything like a social anxiety or something like that. I'm pretty sure I'm just introverted, not to say that this can't be a challenge in itself and not to say that it is on a daily basis. But I'm happy to say that I am since that helps me understand myself and know that I'm perfectly normal and that there's plenty of people like me.
Spooky man, you're describing me exactly!
When you're experiencing/suffering through an episode... are you really "there?" Like, are you cognizant that you're going through it? You just really do believe in your delusions?
That's a great question, because I think a big part of my recovery was simply becoming aware of my delusions. If I'm having a delusion now - as real as it feels - I can be cautious about it and analyze it. When you deal with schizophrenia, there's no trusting your brain.
Does it feel "real" or does it feel like a dream? They say dreams are kinda like experiencing mental illness, because in dreams, you totally believe in the dream reality, whatever it is, as if it's real.
That's the thing that sucks about schizophrenia. It feels completely real. It's hard to tell the difference. So it's important to flex those rational muscles. If I have some crazy delusion about something, I try to step back now and say, okay, is that really likely? Could it just be a delusion? I've found that like, 50% of my thoughts are delusions, maybe a little more or a little less. It definitely feels like an invasion of sorts, though. If I could easily tell they were fake, maybe it wouldn't be so bad. But with this stuff your brain is basically telling you what you're experiencing is real. And what else do you have to go on besides your brain? Your brain is, essentially, you.
Have you ever gone out in public having schizophrenia and done things like shouting insane stuff for everyone to hear?
I haven't, really. At least not that I remember. I've always been really docile. A lot of people with schizophrenia are docile, actually. You'd be surprised. I feel like most of us have so much stuff going on in our brains that we just kind of keep to ourselves, you know?
Sexy Celebrity
01-01-16, 08:03 PM
Interesting, Swan. It sounds kinda like you randomly go from "awake mode" to "dream mode" in your brain... while totally awake.
Like, you're not asleep, but suddenly, you believe in false stuff, as if you're living in a dream.
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-01-16, 08:03 PM
I'm a manic depressive alcoholic.
:cage:
Foster:
Your body becomes "damp?"
It may be what people refer to as "breaking out in a cold sweat" but yeah it happened the one and only time I've tried a catheter. Got really nauseous and dizzy.
one time I was walking to one of my college classes thinking to myself. Then I accidentally blurting something out loud instead of an internal dialogue. And someone was walking right behind me. I felt really awkward and embarrassed so I changed direction to try to lose the person. But then they needed to go that new way too so now I was awkward and walking in the wrong direction
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-01-16, 08:10 PM
one time I was walking to one of my college classes thinking to myself. Then I accidentally blurting something out loud instead of an internal dialogue. And someone was walking right behind me. I felt really awkward and embarrassed so I changed direction to try to lose the person. But then they needed to go that new way too so now I was awkward and walking in the wrong direction
Internal dialogue? Don't you mean monologue? Or do you hear voices?
I think so much of this stuff is common. Like talking out loud -- big deal. I do that sometimes. I do that sometimes while writing posts, reading posts, thinking about what to say, etc.
yeah i didn't mean that to be part of the mental illness discussion. Just a funny story that was tangentially related.
Internal dialogue? Don't you mean monologue? Or do you hear voices?
I didn't mean that story to imply any sort of mental illness, but to answer your question I don't hear voices but I am very dissociative when it comes to my thoughts.
Like most people I cannot stop thinking. If I try to meditate and clear my mind thoughts will keep coming at me. So are they really my thoughts, since I'm not trying to create them, and I don't want them.. they are a stimulus in the say way that our eyes and ears provide a stimulus. Our brain provides one too. So that's what I mean about an internal dialogue. I'll talk to myself inside my head and see what thoughts come, respond to it, wash rinse repeat.
I have to say how much I admire Swan and all the people here who suffer from mental illness! Not being able to trust on what most people take for granted - the brain - must be one of the most terrifying feelings of all.
It happens to me a lot, when I'm sitting in a quiet and public place, like a library or even a teacher meeting in the school where I teach, I start to think what if I had one of those hallucinations crisis...
I don't know how would I live like that, but for what I know about Swan, man you're doing an amazing job!
Yeah, I definitely feel like the brain varies on sort of a broad spectrum rather than categorically. And they constantly change from day to day. I feel people who don't have any particular diagnosis might deal with stuff I deal with once in a while, or even maybe just once in their life. I'm not a doctor or a psychiatrist so I really don't know, but my psychiatrist basically once told me the same thing. We're not so different, you and I.
Maybe we're all crazy, deep down. I mean, I think I have a better head on my shoulder than a lot of people, like some corrupt politicians. Even if I deal with the bullsh*t I have to deal with, I'm a better person than someone like that. You know?
Yeah, I definitely feel like the brain varies on sort of a broad spectrum rather than categorically. And they constantly change from day to day. I feel people who don't have any particular diagnosis might deal with stuff I deal with once in a while, or even maybe just once in their life. I'm not a doctor or a psychiatrist so I really don't know, but my psychiatrist basically once told me the same thing. We're not so different, you and I.
Maybe we're all crazy, deep down. I mean, I think I have a better head on my shoulder than a lot of people, like some corrupt politicians. Even if I deal with the bullsh*t I have to deal with, I'm a better person than someone like that. You know?
One time in vegas after not sleeping for a couple days I was playing blackjack and I could hear peoples thoughts all the way on the other side of the casino. But I knew it wasn't real, it was more like.. damn I'm losing my mind from partying too long, i think it's time to go to bed.
Yeah, I definitely feel like the brain varies on sort of a broad spectrum rather than categorically. And they constantly change from day to day. I feel people who don't have any particular diagnosis might deal with stuff I deal with once in a while, or even maybe just once in their life. I'm not a doctor or a psychiatrist so I really don't know, but my psychiatrist basically once told me the same thing. We're not so different, you and I.
Maybe we're all crazy, deep down. I mean, I think I have a better head on my shoulder than a lot of people, like some corrupt politicians. Even if I deal with the bullsh*t I have to deal with, I'm a better person than someone like that. You know?
Definitely!! You are one of the most gifted persons I ever met, I think I already told you that!
And besides, you look like Stanley Kubrick, so, you're the man!!! :p
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-01-16, 08:23 PM
I didn't mean that story to imply any sort of mental illness, but to answer your question I don't hear voices but I am very dissociative when it comes to my thoughts.
Like most people I cannot stop thinking. If I try to meditate and clear my mind thoughts will keep coming at me. So are they really my thoughts, since I'm not trying to create them, and I don't want them.. they are a stimulus in the say way that our eyes and ears provide a stimulus. Our brain provides one too. So that's what I mean about an internal dialogue. I'll talk to myself inside my head and see what thoughts come, respond to it, wash rinse repeat.
You're much like me in a way. I think of things nice and uplifting and even watch videos of people helping each other on YouTube and cry for hours. Everything runs through mind -philosophy, the future of humanity etc. Then the next minute I think of death and suicide. I sometimes lose hours without realising it. And that's before I start drinking.
sometimes i think that if i meditated a lot every day i would get more control over my brain.. but probably not.
I'm glad I made this thread. It's fascinating to see how wacky people can be. I think this is even better than my old "MoFo Support Group" thread.
Yeah, btw, what happened to that?
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-01-16, 08:35 PM
You watch happy videos?! You're the guy who showed me my first snuff film.
A perfect example of my psychological dichotomy.
Sexy Celebrity
01-01-16, 08:36 PM
I'm glad I made this thread. It's fascinating to see how wacky people can be. I think this is even better than my old "MoFo Support Group" thread.
Yeah, btw, what happened to that?
It's still around.
I'm just so damned cute I drive myself crazy!
Depression and social anxiety. I'm mostly over it, but some days are more fun than others.
I recall a day when Yoda basically told me to leave him alone because I was being all silly around him. I appreciate that he did that for me. ;)
Sexy Celebrity
01-01-16, 08:57 PM
You know Yoda?
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-01-16, 08:58 PM
I'm just so damned cute I drive myself crazy!
Depression and social anxiety. I'm mostly over it, but some days are more fun than others.
I recall a day when Yoda basically told me to leave him alone because I was being all silly around him. I appreciate that he did that for me. ;)
I think social anxiety is what started me drinking (seriously). Any social situation feels like an inquisition to me, which is probably why I get drunk and do silly things to impress and feel excepted.
Sexy Celebrity
01-01-16, 08:59 PM
You don't have to be an alcoholic to be liked here, Slob. Actually, I'd love to know a non-crazy Sci-Fi Slob.
You know Yoda?
I met him over two years ago on another corner of the internet. He tried to get me to join here months ago, and I finally decided that maybe I can meet people.
I met him over two years ago on another corner of the internet. He tried to get me to join here months ago, and I finally decided that maybe I can meet people.
Well then I better not mess with you, or else I could get banned. :D
Depression, extreme social anxiety and OCD. Yay me.
Like jrs. Gone for good he is, I just found out.
Hey now. I ain't here to cause trouble or hijack threads.
Depression, extreme social anxiety and OCD. Yay me.
Welcome back JayDee, and welcome to the party. Yay us people.
Maybe jrs was off his meds?
Now we'll never know if he was mentally ill
Captain Steel
01-01-16, 10:16 PM
I've had paruresis (shy bladder) most of my life but it's never been crippling. Mostly just an inconvenience and frustration since it is a part of my body that I'm helpless to control. I would plan around it, not drink at beer pong tournaments, etc and it was no problem to go out for 6 hours without voiding.
But now with the comorbidity of my other bladder problems (interstitial cystitis, dysuria) it's the worst. Now it's a physical problem too that makes it really difficult to void. Some people become 100% reliant on catheters. But I tried one of those once, i turned white and my whole body instantly became damp and i almost threw up or passed not. Not sure which but catheters are not an answer for me.
But anyway with this physical problem now on my good days when I'm not drinking any water I can last for about 2 hours. On a bad day every 5 minutes. It's super painful to have anything in my bladder, it feels acidic, and it's completely impossible to use any public restroom since I can barely even use a private one now. It's such a mess I haven't been able to work for 2 years. Sometimes I'll wake up 18 times in a night and I can be in bed for 14 hours and still not be rested because my sleep quality is so bad. Maybe if I didn't have the paruresis too I'd be able to still live a somewhat normal life.. maybe not because of the pain and concentration issues. But this comorbidity is a kick in the balls.
OMG! Remember how I said I have a bunch of issues? Well I totally forgot about this one because I haven't really been out anywhere lately. I discovered it on the 8th grade Washington trip - after a couple hours on the bus I had to go so bad - waited in a long line when we finally made a rest stop, and when it was my turn up at bat (with another long line behind me) I couldn't go.
Luckily I don't have the related problems foster describes - my sympathies, buddy, some of that sounds pretty awful. For me, it seems totally dependent on the social environ of the "public" restroom. Now, if faced with the dilemma I just go in a stall if possible.
jrs was related to Nicolas Cage. :cage:
And no, I'm not kidding.
I'm kinda disgusted this place had the gall to ban someone related to Nicolas Cage, but whatever.
Aww damn. Maybe I could have convinced him to pass cage one of my screen plays. In the imaginary future, when I've written a feature length script.
OMG! Remember how I said I have a bunch of issues? Well I totally forgot about this one because I haven't really been out anywhere lately. I discovered it on the 8th grade Washington trip - after a couple hours on the bus I had to go so bad - waited in a long line when we finally made a rest stop, and when it was my turn up at bat (with another long line behind me) I couldn't go.
Luckily I don't have the related problems foster describes - my sympathies, buddy, some of that sounds pretty awful. For me, it seems totally dependent on the social environ of the "public" restroom. Now, if faced with the dilemma I just go in a stall if possible.
A lot of times stalls used to work for me. Not 100% reliable but many times I was able to get some relief.
Two jobs back when things started to get really bad for me physically they had this one restroom that had a private shower, etc for people after using the gym. But it was a single person restroom with a lock on the door.
So if it was occupied i would keep wandering the halls and then swing by it again to check. Another young guy worked in the building as a janitor, cleaning the carpets etc so I became friends with him. he always jokingly referred to me as "the wanderer" but never knew why.
matt72582
01-01-16, 10:53 PM
Swan, it's just like how people romanticize Syd Barrett or anyone who dies young.
Foster, I have to pee every night, once or twice. It really interferes with my sleep, especially if I wake up when the sun is just coming out. I've done every kind of test - liver, diabetes, etc., nothing. I drink about 50 ounces of water on average, and a can of Dr. Pepper like today.
They always say that it's men who won't come out. I've never it's mostly men on here talking about things. Good sign. I like 99% of all the MOFOs very dearly. Please do the best you can. Meditation is great, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing. Just take as many deep breaths as possible. Also, be alert on your muscles not being relaxed, happens to me all the time. Close off the sensory, any interruptions, total silence, don't move a muscle for a few minutes or as long as you can, and you'll feel better. I find taking hot showers almost makes me feel better. Tryptophan at night helps too. I notice when I get a bad night's of sleep the things that ordinarily wouldn't bother me do to an extent depending on how I feel. Do all the things you can control, and try to accept it, laugh as much as possible, and be thankful you are at least here.
Oh, and watch great movies... It really helps!
Captain Steel
01-01-16, 11:05 PM
I like you, Sexy. But with that gif of Gyllenhaal under your name, I'm starting to wonder why can't I quit you?
Swan, it's just like how people romanticize Syd Barrett or anyone who dies young.
It's really not the same at all, and anyway Barrett didn't die young. ;)
This thread is for Swan. I hope he likes it.
WHO here is suffering from a mental illness?
What do you have? What does it make you do? How do you treat it and live with it?
Signed,
Curious to Know :mrt:
Im diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia after a manic episode which turned into a psychosis.
I still take medication but otherwise i have been symptom free for years and i work in an social psychiatric institution with young people between 18-30 who are mentally ill with diagnosis ranging from schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline or depression. Problems with drug and alcohol does also occur.
Besides that i do lectures on physical activity and recovery related to schizophrenia both for patients and employees in the psychiatry. I also do lectures on being a peer worker in a psychiatric institution mostly for professionals working in the psychiatry.
As it is i go to a psychologist once a month and otherwise i keep my attention to studying and working.
Anyway if you ask my doctor i suffer from schizophrenia but i you ask my psychologist who specializes in psychosis i suffered from an acute psychosis and that is one of the reasons for my relatively quick recovery.
MovieMeditation
01-02-16, 03:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3gox0wG.gif
Yeah, I was hoping TokeZa would speak up in this thread. We've talked a bit about it before.
Used Future
01-02-16, 05:27 PM
I was officially diagnosed with Apserger's Syndrome (recently reclassified as Autistic Spectrum Disorder) back in my mid thirties. My GP had to write an application letter to the Manchester GMC in order to obtain funding to send me up to a clinic in Sheffield for assessment. At the time there were only two places in England (the other in Cambridge) qualified to make an official diagnosis. I was interviewed at length, and had to attend with my mum who was also questioned in depth regarding my childhood in particular. It took them over a month of deliberation before I received a phone call (followed by a letter) confirming the diagnosis, and I was overjoyed at finally having a name for my condition. Having a name for it really helps because I can learn from the experience of other sufferers, and give people a partial explanation (never an excuse) for my sometimes erratic and strange behavior, so others (if open minded enough) may better understand me.
Without wishing to ramble off into a woe is me violin concerto, the condition manifests it'self as an overwhelming feeling of anxiety and fear. I am often socially awkward to the point of agoraphobia with strangers and large groups of people; do not always read social cues well - written or verbal; am extremely introverted; paranoid that people despise me - often with good reason, and trapped in a daily routine of OCD (my obsessions are fear of contamination by dirt - so obsessive hand washing, and checking things are switched off and doors are locked ad infinitum. There is no numerical rationale like many other sufferers). Naturally I was mercilessly bullied during my primary school years, a trend that has sporadically continued throughout my adult life. I know this is because I can be easy to antagonise and hence an easy target for muppets who get a kick out of that type of thing. I've also been known to lash out and verbally browbeat others, but it's always in the heat of the moment and never premeditated. I'm often overcome with guilt after such episodes and replay the exchanges in my mind over and over.
Like many other things I'm working on all these behaviors daily. It's a tough perpetual curve, but I'm hanging on in there because life is precious and I want to be better for my wife. I'm married to the warmest, most compassionate lady you could ever hope to meet and together we muddle through constantly learning and adapting. We've emigrated half way around the world back to her Canadian homeland and now have a new set of hopes and fears - leaving the house has gotten a lot tougher for me here because now I'm even more of an outsider. I view these things as remarkable achievements for an Aspie though. Not many Asperger's sufferers work, let alone get married and emigrate. I'm high functioning even by Aspie standards (sadly not a savant though) and often our closest friends (yes I've managed to hold on to some special people over the years) will say they regularly forget I even have a condition. That's a double edged sword for another debate though.
So I'd just like to thank and give my best wishes to everyone in this thread who has opened up. It's an admirable trait that I was raised to believe shows strength of character. Nobody's perfect and these things are sent to test us. Never give up.
Sexy Celebrity
01-02-16, 05:39 PM
I know this is because I can be easy to antagonise and hence an easy target for muppets who get a kick out of that type of thing.
You're bullied by muppets? No wonder you're mental.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=23536&stc=1&d=1451770741
I bet Miss Piggy's the worst. She's always karate chopping.
Used Future
01-02-16, 05:43 PM
Haha. It's a British term for idiots. :)
All these people with OCD hand washing and germs. I wonder how their OCD would have been different 100 years ago.
It used to be doctors didn't even wash their hands before surgery!! Nobody knew about germs or that they could make you sick. It's a relatively recent development.
honeykid
01-02-16, 05:58 PM
Allegedly started by the Manchester Met Police for fellow idiot officers and meaning:
Most
Useless
Police
Person
Ever
Trained
Sexy Celebrity
01-02-16, 06:04 PM
All these people with OCD hand washing and germs. I wonder how their OCD would have been different 100 years ago.
It used to be doctors didn't even wash their hands before surgery!! Nobody knew about germs or that they could make you sick. It's a relatively recent development.
The only reason I could see to become addicted to hand washing is because the hot water can feel good. If you've got some good hot water going, it can feel like a nice, hot mini-bath for the hands. Very pleasing.
Used Future
01-02-16, 06:19 PM
@ Foster. Oh yeah definitely, no doubt because we live in such a hygiene obsessed sterile society nowadays. OCD has definitely been around for at least a century though. Howard Hughes was a renowned sufferer of the germ phobic variety and that was back in the early 1900's.
When I was a boy my mum told me how dog feces can make you go blind if you injest or get it in your eyes. That really freaked me out and my OCD gradually escalated from there. Walking around Manchester I used to call it the dog sh*t hopscotch.
Used Future
01-02-16, 06:28 PM
Oh lawd, I'd have to take a shower after every round. :D
Nausicaä
01-02-16, 06:30 PM
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder here, the earliest age I can remember it starting was around seven or eight years old. I don't do the hand washing though, just a certain routine with the taps and drying my hands. Dirt and germs are not really a problem for me.
matt72582
01-02-16, 06:36 PM
As a teen, when I walked I would make sure my foot landed on a crack, and if the right one did, so did the left..
Used Future
01-02-16, 06:36 PM
@ SS. Thanks, but I can see a speck of dirt in the top left corner. Would you mind hosing it all down in bleach for me? :D
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 06:57 PM
Have any of you had hemeriods surgically removed? I may have to soon, but the YouTube videos of the procedure are truly horrific. :(
honeykid
01-02-16, 06:59 PM
The dad of a friend of mine did. He did not sit down properly for quite a while. But he did it a lot more comfortably than he did before he had them done. Best of luck with it, SFS.:)
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 07:07 PM
The dad of a friend of mine did. He did not sit down properly for quite a while. But he did it a lot more comfortably than he did before he had them done. Best of luck with it, SFS.:)
That's very encouraging, thank you...
My earliest memory about germs and stuff was watching an old zelda cartoon around age 6.
There was some price charming competing for princess Zelda's affections, but when she got kidnapped and carried through a swamp he wouldn't rescue her because he didn't want to get dirty.
Link was a real man and he went into the muddy swamp and saved her instead!
Maybe he was gay.
I found it on youtube! Jump to 12:10
Prince "Facade" lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3UUUEgmfVw
SilentVamp
01-02-16, 07:31 PM
All these people with OCD hand washing and germs. I wonder how their OCD would have been different 100 years ago.
But for my brother it goes far beyond germs. It is the thoughts that he gets in his head that he then has to "remove" by doing "rituals" that get rid of them. So you know there was a form of it 100 years ago, too.
It seemed like a long time before my brother was diagnosed, but, in reality, it wasn't that long. I think because things were so extreme so fast, that made the time seem longer. There were other things involved in all of this. For example, there was a specific TV show that he suddenly had to watch everyday. And when he did, everyone had to be out of the room. And, for whatever reason, he'd have to have his hair combed a certain way before he could watch it. Why? I don't know. It was the way it was. And he could only do certain things if the clock was at a certain time. And if he didn't do those things at that time, he would sit there for another 24 hours before he would attempt to do them again.
And then there was this thing that started after he was diagnosed. There were certain people (actors, singers, et.c.) that he could NOT say the name of. He would only address them by initials. And you had to do the same if you were talking to him. And, of course, you'd go along with it because you wouldn't want him to get mad. He had some serious anger issues (which I guess go along with his OCD). But the thing is, he was also like this with one of our brothers. You couldn't say that brother's name to him. He, and all of his friends, had to be addressed to this brother by initials only. He wouldn't even be in the same room with him. He wouldn't even look at that brother. It isn't like that at all now. But these are just examples of how it is beyond just what a lot of people think OCD is.
What bothers me most of all is how the doctors blamed my mother for it. First of all, he has a father, too. Why would she have been the only one to blame? Second, how could you blame anyone for what happened to him? My brother grew up in a time when mental illness wasn't so widely discussed. How would my mother, or anyone else, ever know that the stuff my brother did as a kid, or growing up, was a sign of something more serious?
When my brother was little he used to do this thing where he would tell everyone in the room how much money he had. And it always had to be said the same way. Well, kids do odd things. My mother never gave it a thought but that it was just something silly that a little kid was doing. When my brother got older, he had to have everything be straight and perfect. He would spend so long combing his hair in the morning before he'd go to school. He would have to have his shoe laces tied really tight. If he would write something out, it had to be perfectly aligned or else he would write it again. When he had his paper route, and he was finished, he would go to all of the houses again to make sure that the papers were set right inside the door and that the doors were closed (screen doors in front of their front doors). Just stuff that seemed like quirky things.
And everyone has crazy, little things that they do. So, to blame my mother for this was terrible considering there was a father living here, too. That has always bothered me.
In reality, like I said, what did they expect from anyone? Not until he "snapped" at the restaurant that day, there wasn't anything so extreme beyond things that seemed quirky.
What is really sad about all of it, is that my brother is actually highly intelligent. They discovered this when he spent time at the one hospital. And he has some pretty good artistic talent when it comes to cartooning, but it is all being wasted. OCD isn't hereditary. Yet, he could never have a family. It just couldn't happen. He is someone that needs to live alone. But that is all just the way that it is now.
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 07:32 PM
I'm gay. Me and Sexy have maintained a healthy relationship for almost 2 years now.
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 07:48 PM
This thread has given me so many great ideas. I love it.
I wanna touch you.
Oh I certainly wasn't going to suggest that OCD never existed before the discovery of germs, just that it would have a different manifestation. There are new mental illnesses being developed all the time
I just did a quick google search - not standing by all of these as legitimate.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2054386/eight-new-mental-illnesses-brought-to-you-by-wait-for-it-the-internet.html
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 07:52 PM
I wanna touch your hemorrhoids.
You have a taste for blood, I can tell.
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 07:56 PM
http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/image/upload/c_fill,h_200,w_500/t_mp_quality_gif/d6054098-75cb-4cf5-9f6e-ecc643eac4bd-gif-258948.gif
I feel dizzy...
I feel dizzy...
Bad news, you have cybersickness. You are mentally ill.
The Sci-Fi Slob
01-02-16, 08:01 PM
Bad news, you have cybersickness. You are mentally ill.
Five bottles of **** wine doesn't help either. ;)
honeykid
01-02-16, 08:16 PM
Is that red or white?
Is that red or white?
Wite or Redd going by the letters, think Slob is going to be embarrassed when he notices that spelling blunder.
matt72582
01-02-16, 08:57 PM
is homosexuality a mental illness?
honeykid
01-02-16, 08:59 PM
Not since the 50's, but I guess it depends where you live.
Derek Vinyard
01-02-16, 09:06 PM
I find this thread a bit morally wrong... everyone has issues... no one is completely sane...
definitely agree with that statement
definitely agree with that statement
Everyone with Mental Illnesses hasn't had a problem with it as far as i can tell. SC jokes alot and is very straightforward, but it seems a few people liked to speak about their conditions. Good thread SC :up:
Derek Vinyard
01-02-16, 09:13 PM
Everyone with Mental Illnesses hasn't had a problem with it as far as i can tell. SC jokes alot and is very straightforward, but it seems a few people liked to speak about their conditions. Good thread SC :up:
If we had to make a thread for each problems of each members of this forum..... but anyway I don't care at all
MovieGal
01-02-16, 09:16 PM
is homosexuality a mental illness?
No.....
MovieGal
01-02-16, 09:17 PM
If we had to make a thread for each problems of each members of this forum..... but anyway I don't care at all
You love me and you know I'm f*cked in the head.... :lol:
Not since the 50's, but I guess it depends where you live.
Thanks for not saying; maybe in Glasgow :p
carlspackler
01-03-16, 09:23 AM
My daughter has a mental illness and it stems from me,she chose God I chose Alcolohol.
Both seem to have worked.
carlspackler
01-03-16, 09:26 AM
I'm depressed right now because no one will play Golden Girls Advice Column with me. :(
Try God or Alcohol,it has worked for my family extensively.
South Park comes close.
BTW, doesn't Mentally ill MoFos sound like a great name for a band?
maaaahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa
cmon man, this id TOO much!
I'll begin with my fear of thursdays-that's today. i feel that on thursday all is off. I'm really frustrated ny thursdays. It's all dead here, amn, and I don't enjoy and am not happy as usual. There's no action. I'm not on fire. and I suffer.
ok seriously now, I am too embarassed/don't wanna bother people with my illness. But I'll say this much. They didn't give me a diagnosis, but I guess it's paranoid schizophrenia. I can best quote Lennon:
"I don't do schrinks even though I am insane because if anyone can cure me, it's myself because I know myself."
Were Thursdays bad days for you for some reason in your past?
The thing is my absolutely biggest problem is astrology. I'm Leo, and that's fine, but the ascedent is Taurus, and I find it a heavy burden, it makes me stiff and tense. I simply don't know what to do about it. i know some folks think zodiac is rubbish, but not me. i really do believe in it unfortunately. i wasn't entirely honest when I was congratulating Mark and Sean, if you saw that. As for thursdays, it says they're"Leo day", but it always happens that they're the opposite of the rest of the week, and the week was fantastic. Hey, btw, don't worry I'll wish you a very happy anniversary right after I've written this.
Captain Steel
02-18-16, 07:02 PM
The thing is my absolutely biggest problem is astrology. I'm Leo, and that's fine, but the ascedent is Taurus, and I find it a heavy burden, it makes me stiff and tense. I simply don't know what to do about it. i know some folks think zodiac is rubbish, but not me. i really do believe in it unfortunately. i wasn't entirely honest when I was congratulating Mark and Sean, if you saw that. As for thursdays, it says they're"Leo day", but it always happens that they're the opposite of the rest of the week, and the week was fantastic. Hey, btw, don't worry I'll wish you a very happy anniversary right after I've written this.
Is it because Thursday precedes Friday, and Friday is for most people a very happy day? (We're conditioned to feel this way about Fridays due to a life of school & work schedules).
P.S. Yes, astrology is rubbish. Next to the Sun & the Moon, the planet Jupiter exhibits the next greatest gravitational influence on us as the 2nd largest object in our solar system, yet Jupiter effects us not at all. So the idea that alignments of planets or stars that are light years away effect us in any way is an erroneous assumption.
Here is a great experiment that illustrates how & why astrological "horoscopes" are totally bogus... (Warning: Penn Gillette's potty mouth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AyTbLqSBfI
Is it because Thursday precedes Friday, and Friday is for most people a very happy day? (We're conditioned to feel this way about Fridays due to a life of school & work schedules).
P.S. Yes, astrology is rubbish. Next to the Sun & the Moon, the planet Jupiter exhibits the next greatest gravitational influence on us as the 2nd largest object in our solar system, yet Jupiter effects us not at all. So the idea that alignments of planets or stars that are light years away effect us in any way is an erroneous assumption.
Here is a great experiment that illustrates how & why astrological "horoscopes" are totally bogus... (Warning: Penn Gillette's potty mouth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AyTbLqSBfI
Thanks. :)
the thing is, if there were ONE exception in my experience, it would ruin the rule, but I didn't find any. We have
(of course, astrology is very complicated, it's not just the Sun sign or ascedent, you have to take the entire chart into observation)
(And, of course I'm not saying I'm right by any means, i hope to god I'll be proven wrong. Also, astrology is far beyond my capabilities, it's a very dangerous thing, black magic, witchcraft)
1. Aries - Van Gogh, Descartes, Bach, Chaplin, Brando, Belmondo, Zola, Rahmanjinov, Hruščev, Alec Guinnes, I think Swan, Serge Gainsburgh, Steven Seagal, Eddie Murphy, Ewan McGregor, Pope Benedict, Steve McQuinn, Spencer Tracy, Eric Clapton, Elton John, Lady Gaga, Bette Davis, etc
It's better to give a link, I think
http://www.astrotheme.fr/horoscope_personnalise_gratuit.php
go to the bottom of the page and there they are, the 12.
I can't help but to realise that members of each individual sign have something in common, and not in the way humans have something in common in general. I see that Arieses are positive, emotional people.
ok I'll do
2.Taurus to try and demonstrate the distinction between a male sign (Aries) and a female (Taurus), which is crucial, imho
Uma Thurman, Adolf Hitler, Gerorge Clooney, James Stewart, Jack Nicholson, Pierce Brosnan, Al Pacino, Henry Fonda, Sadam Husein, Immanuel Kant, Sigmund Freud, Leonardo Da Vinci, William Shakespeare, Karl Marx, Peter iljič Čajkovski, Johannes Brahms, Bono, Michelle Pfeiffer, Carmen Electra, Jessica Alba, Megan Fox, Katharine Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, Joe Cocker, Salvedor Dali, Vladimir Nabokov, Orson Welles, Carl Friedrich Gauss , considered the greatest mathematician ever etc
I see Taurus men as persistent, determined individuals, they're often geniuses (it being a female sign, and I really think women are smarter than us) no matter what Orson says and Lady Taurus as the goddess Venus, simple as that, the sign being ruled by Venus.
Do you like math, on the other hand?
Captain Steel
02-19-16, 12:42 AM
Thanks. :)
the thing is, if there were ONE exception in my experience, it would ruin the rule, but I didn't find any. We have
(of course, astrology is very complicated, it's not just the Sun sign or ascedent, you have to take the entire chart into observation)
(And, of course I'm not saying I'm right by any means, i hope to god I'll be proven wrong. Also, astrology is far beyond my capabilities, it's a very dangerous thing, black magic, witchcraft)
The "danger" or power (however you choose to see it) lies within the human mind. Astrology, black magic & witchcraft are only as dangerous or powerful as a person is willing to make them in their mind or give their energy to.
Just curious Beatle, do you find things like Astrology directing your actions or swaying your decisions? Do you ever find that your own inner desires or ideas about doing something will then be superseded or altered by what a horoscope says?
P.S. Math has always been one of my weaker areas.
The "danger" or power (however you choose to see it) lies within the human mind. Astrology, black magic & witchcraft are only as dangerous or powerful as a person is willing to make them in their mind or give their energy to.
Just curious Beatle, do you find things like Astrology directing your actions or swaying your decisions? Do you ever find that your own inner desires or ideas about doing something will then be superseded or altered by what a horoscope says?
P.S. Math has always been one of my weaker areas.
I agree. :) But ultimately I truly believe that everything is writen. In the stars or whatever. I'm a Christian, you know, I believe in God. That's how I would ultimately define myself. Do you believe in God? So the answer to your question is yes. It doesn't have to be astrology, it's ultimately God.
Captain Steel
02-19-16, 01:17 AM
Aren't believing in Christ and believing in Astrology somewhat in conflict? The former (for believers) is supposed to be the absolute power, the ONLY power (and it's even written in certain books of the NT that anyone who puts faith in anything else, especially things like astrology - which might be considered a form of sorcery - are destined for a not so great spiritual fate.)
I'm agnostic myself (former Christian) who attempts to follow the Christian / Buddhist philosophies as they pertain to coexistence with others.
Aren't believing in Christ and believing in Astrology somewhat in conflict? The former (for believers) is supposed to be the absolute power, the ONLY power (and it's even written in certain books of the NT that anyone who puts faith in anything else, especially things like astrology - which might be considered a form of sorcery - are destined for a not so great spiritual fate.)
I'm agnostic myself (former Christian) who attempts to follow the Christian / Buddhist philosophies as they pertain to coexistence with others.
Yes, you're right. One of the 10 commandments is "thy shall not believe in any other God" I told you I'd probably be proven wrong. :) ;)
I'm not so sure about the only power thing though. The Bible tells us of a certain fallen angel (even though it's "enter the serpent") called the devil. He has many names...and one of those might be astrology, but it's utterly beyond my power to be sure. Do you agree with me that evil exists?
Captain Steel
02-19-16, 02:07 AM
Evil certainly exists. It is in the hearts of men.
When it comes to other issues (such as the supernatural sources of evil) I have to fall back on my agnosticism and admit that I simply don't know. Although I don't disbelieve - I'm open to any possibility.
In a traditional Christian sense: Christ trumps Satan (pretty much the whole reason behind the story of the Messiah's coming here as a man and making a sacrifice - to wrest the keys of hell from Satan's hands so that no man need ever fear damnation as long as they put their faith in Christ). Satan still has a foothold on Earth, but only temporarily as he will ultimately fall to Christ, and it's up to us to choose who we're backing while we're still alive (to put it in layman's terms). So believing Christians do not have to fear the power of Satan or any other power for that matter.
Evil certainly exists. It is in the hearts of men.
When it comes to other issues (such as the supernatural sources of evil) I have to fall back on my agnosticism and admit that I simply don't know. Although I don't disbelieve - I'm open to any possibility.
In a traditional Christian sense: Christ trumps Satan (pretty much the whole reason behind the story of the Messiah's coming here as a man and making a sacrifice - to wrest the keys of hell from Satan's hands so that no man need ever fear damnation as long as they put their faith in Christ). Satan still has a foothold on Earth, but only temporarily as he will ultimately fall to Christ, and it's up to us to choose who we're backing while we're still alive (to put it in layman's terms). So believing Christians do not have to fear the power of Satan or any other power for that matter.
I'll just go strait forward here and say that I like you, man. Everything about you. Ever since I joined. :)
I agree with everything you said. :)
I definately choose to believe in good, and think that it will ultimately prevail and that one fine day we'll all end up in heaven. And by looking at this insane world nowadays, it looks the Second Coming is near. VERY near. I think it's best for me to simply forget about astrology.
Captain Steel
02-19-16, 02:58 AM
Good conversation. And the feeling's mutual.
Probably a good decision about astrology. Putting faith in the power of your own tremendous mind, your connection to your spiritual source, and your intentions is much the same as investing belief in all the hoodoo type stuff without the trappings of magic, fortunes & rituals that can distract & lead you in directions where you don't want to go. Self belief is cutting out the middle man and going right to the source of all power that you think you perceive in external things. You are one piece of all universal power (as are we all).
We will speak again.
Have a good night, Beatle.
Optimus
02-19-16, 03:40 AM
I feel down and depressed sometimes. It doesn't happen to oftet - but when it does i find myself in a horrible situation. I just feel fed up and down, its partly the reason i dissapear of here sometimes. I also suffer from OCD aswell, sometimes its bad where i feel like my head is gonna explode.
matt72582
02-19-16, 09:59 AM
I've read other horoscopes, and they can all apply. Very vague.
"Something happened between the age of 16 and 20" - is there anyone who didn't have something important happen between those ages?
The Sci-Fi Slob
02-19-16, 10:11 AM
Thanks. :)
the thing is, if there were ONE exception in my experience, it would ruin the rule, but I didn't find any. We have
(of course, astrology is very complicated, it's not just the Sun sign or ascedent, you have to take the entire chart into observation)
(And, of course I'm not saying I'm right by any means, i hope to god I'll be proven wrong. Also, astrology is far beyond my capabilities, it's a very dangerous thing, black magic, witchcraft)
1. Aries - Van Gogh, Descartes, Bach, Chaplin, Brando, Belmondo, Zola, Rahmanjinov, Hruščev, Alec Guinnes, I think Swan, Serge Gainsburgh, Steven Seagal, Eddie Murphy, Ewan McGregor, Pope Benedict, Steve McQuinn, Spencer Tracy, Eric Clapton, Elton John, Lady Gaga, Bette Davis, etc
It's better to give a link, I think
http://www.astrotheme.fr/horoscope_personnalise_gratuit.php
go to the bottom of the page and there they are, the 12.
I can't help but to realise that members of each individual sign have something in common, and not in the way humans have something in common in general. I see that Arieses are positive, emotional people.
ok I'll do
2.Taurus to try and demonstrate the distinction between a male sign (Aries) and a female (Taurus), which is crucial, imho
Uma Thurman, Adolf Hitler, Gerorge Clooney, James Stewart, Jack Nicholson, Pierce Brosnan, Al Pacino, Henry Fonda, Sadam Husein, Immanuel Kant, Sigmund Freud, Leonardo Da Vinci, William Shakespeare, Karl Marx, Peter iljič Čajkovski, Johannes Brahms, Bono, Michelle Pfeiffer, Carmen Electra, Jessica Alba, Megan Fox, Katharine Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, Joe Cocker, Salvedor Dali, Vladimir Nabokov, Orson Welles, Carl Friedrich Gauss , considered the greatest mathematician ever etc
I see Taurus men as persistent, determined individuals, they're often geniuses (it being a female sign, and I really think women are smarter than us) no matter what Orson says and Lady Taurus as the goddess Venus, simple as that, the sign being ruled by Venus.
Do you like math, on the other hand?
Astrology is a load of sh*t!
Astrology is a load of sh*t!
:yup:
I appologize to all for my astrological rubbish. :D I'll never speak of it again. :)
I appologize to all for my astrological rubbish. :D I'll never speak of it again. :)
the guys at okcupid used their massive database to scientifically disprove astrology.
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/how-races-and-religions-match-in-online-dating/
There is nothing about one sign being any more compatible with another.
Interesting eh?
http://www.cracked.com/phpimages/photoshop/6/1/6/508616_v1.jpg
yeah there's a virus they commonly carry called Toxoplasma gondii that can trigger schizophrenia
yeah there's a virus they commonly carry called Toxoplasma gondii that can trigger schizophrenia
My God! So schizophrenia is contageous?
My God! So schizophrenia is contageous?
Yeah I guess so :eek:
More accurately this particular virus that can induce it is contagious.
Not everyone with schizophrenia has the virus.
Captain Steel
02-22-16, 06:57 PM
Yeah I guess so :eek:
More accurately this particular virus that can induce it is contagious.
Not everyone with schizophrenia has the virus.
But does everyone with the virus have schizophrenia?
I doubt it. I think they're still trying to conclusively prove the causality and right now it's just an association/correlation.
Guaporense
02-23-16, 09:54 PM
I have insomnia. I started having that in November 2014, it's not like insomnia from not falling asleep but from waking up before being well rested (from sleeping like 4-5 hours instead of 8), because of that I have to spend one or two hours extra in bed every day (falling asleep again) so that I can get my sleeping time. I am sleeping like 2 rounds every day and spend a couple of hours awake between "rounds".
I think I have that from anxiety related to work. I started doing my research in late 2014 and after my research starts getting too complicated or after I began worrying too much about the future of it, I think I get really anxious. Well, life in academia appeared to be more "stable" than in the private sector, guess what, it's worse in that sense.
Captain Steel
02-23-16, 10:52 PM
I have insomnia. I started having that in November 2014, it's not like insomnia from not falling asleep but from waking up before being well rested (from sleeping like 4-5 hours instead of 8), because of that I have to spend one or two hours extra in bed every day (falling asleep again) so that I can get my sleeping time. I am sleeping like 2 rounds every day and spend a couple of hours awake between "rounds".
I think I have that from anxiety related to work. I started doing my research in late 2014 and after my research starts getting too complicated or after I began worrying too much about the future of it, I think I get really anxious. Well, life in academia appeared to be more "stable" than in the private sector, guess what, it's worse in that sense.
Man! I've got some very similar sleep problems (and I don't want to sound like I'm playing "can you top that?")
But I've had sleep problems most my life. My bio-clock seems to like to go to sleep around 4 am ... which really doesn't work with any schedule. What really sucks - if I know I have to get up at a certain time (which is usually), then I can't fall asleep - and if I have to get up early, that's when I really need to get a good night's sleep! It's a Catch-22.
To your problem, Guaporence, it may not be that unusual... in times past, that is.
I've heard of something called "second sleep" which is a second round of sleep during the night after a period of wakefulness or activity after the first round. In pre-industrial times, a full 8 hours night's sleep was not common (unless you were rich & had servants). Some reasons that multiple sleep periods developed might be that people had to get up after a couple hours to add wood to the stove & such. Many people in one room would also make for a frequently disturbed sleep.
http://slumberwise.com/science/your-ancestors-didnt-sleep-like-you/
matt72582
02-23-16, 11:00 PM
I take 3mg of Xanax at about 8pm so I can hopefully fall asleep before midnight. Yet, sometimes I can only get 5 hours, sometimes less, which isn't the same, just like if you were to drink alcohol.
I'm on a good streak of 8 hours each night this week, including 2 days of 9 hours, which is soooooo rare! But I can't think of a reason why. I'm eating more junk food, that's the only difference I can think of.
yeah my sleep also sucks a lot. i got some ambien today from my new dr but e was nervous about giving a new patient a controlled substance. so i don't have enough to take every day, which is fine.
like captain said, more important for those days when i need to wake up early for something. not typical.
Guaporense
02-24-16, 04:02 PM
I think I might try taking something to sleep I guess. Though this night I actually sleep like more than 7 hours straight, which is very good.
Sexy Celebrity
02-24-16, 04:34 PM
I don't understand people with sleep problems. Lay yourself down on the bed and go to sleep! Don't take pills. Just go to sleep. If you have problems falling asleep, it's a bad night for you. Something's probably on your mind. It'll fix itself the next day. No sense in taking Xanax or anything before bed. That's just gonna make you focus too much on your sleep problems.
for me pain makes it difficult to fall asleep and i wake up frequently.
Citizen Rules
02-24-16, 05:27 PM
Stop thinking when you go to bed. Don't be planning out the next day, etc.
Don't worry about falling to sleep. In fact tell yourself your content to lay there just relaxing.
Cut the caffeine down. Just say no to Rock Star/Monster, etc and don't do a quad shot of espresso.
Cut the sugary crap out before you go to bed.
Relax and be happy.
There's Dr Rules tips for a good night sleep.
matt72582
02-24-16, 05:42 PM
Be careful of the Ambien. I took them when I was about 18, and I had a tendency to want to drink alcohol, which is horrible. But even without alcohol, you feel like flying, and people have done some crazy stuff. Remember Ted Kennedy's son was pulled over at 4am, and he told the cop he was going to vote..
Good tips, CR.... Lately, I've been falling asleep pretty well. I think I got at least 7-8 hours every day this week. When the sleep hits you, drop everything and go to bed. Also, I've been imagining, fantasizing, and instead of writing it down, I start to think about scenarios as I'm going to bed, and it's been working.
If I didn't have to pee, I'm sure I could sleep a lot more. For a few weeks I cut everything except water, and instead of waking up at 3am to take a leak, it would be more like 6am, and then because I slept 6 hours straight instead of 3, I wouldn't be able to fall back asleep, so I went back to drinking a ton of Dr. Pepper and Vernors.
Sexy Celebrity
02-24-16, 05:44 PM
You can't make yourself fall asleep. If you try thinking about it and making it happen, it won't work. You'll just fall asleep and you won't know it. You won't realize it until you wake up later.
Be careful of the Ambien. I took them when I was about 18, and I had a tendency to want to drink alcohol, which is horrible. But even without alcohol, you feel like flying, and people have done some crazy stuff. Remember Ted Kennedy's son was pulled over at 4am, and he told the cop he was going to vote..
It affects everyone differently. I never seem to let loose or lose my mind with any drugs.. I wish alcohol did it for me. Maybe rufenal. One time I was at a party in the las vegas hard rock with a serial rapist joey poindexter, I blacked out and heard some crazy stories about me the next day. I remember waking up thinking how the hell did I get back to my hotel room? I must have had a sip of someone else's drink or something because I never black out. Not sure I believe all the stories about me in the casino but it sounds like it made me a lot more fun.
Captain Steel
02-24-16, 11:18 PM
Be careful of the Ambien. I took them when I was about 18, and I had a tendency to want to drink alcohol, which is horrible. But even without alcohol, you feel like flying, and people have done some crazy stuff. Remember Ted Kennedy's son was pulled over at 4am, and he told the cop he was going to vote..
Good tips, CR.... Lately, I've been falling asleep pretty well. I think I got at least 7-8 hours every day this week. When the sleep hits you, drop everything and go to bed. Also, I've been imagining, fantasizing, and instead of writing it down, I start to think about scenarios as I'm going to bed, and it's been working.
If I didn't have to pee, I'm sure I could sleep a lot more. For a few weeks I cut everything except water, and instead of waking up at 3am to take a leak, it would be more like 6am, and then because I slept 6 hours straight instead of 3, I wouldn't be able to fall back asleep, so I went back to drinking a ton of Dr. Pepper and Vernors.
Ha-ha! I always feel like voting whenever I've taken Ambien (unfortunately, for some reason the public school gymnasium is always closed at 4:00 am!)
Foster was right that drugs effect people differently. I've known a lot of people who either pass out or sleep really well from alcohol. But I've always found that alcohol effects my sleep negatively - it will make me feel more lethargic & fatigued, but I won't fall quickly asleep, and if (or when) I do fall asleep, it is a restless sleep and I'll wake up multiple times.
if i drink before bed i have nightmares like 90% of the time
matt72582
02-25-16, 12:44 AM
I can't/won't drink anymore. My body just hates it, so I hate it :)
I also notice a few beers really messing up my sleep, stomach/guts, headache, having to urinate, feeling nauseated for a couple of days. But at 18, 19, I drank myself to sleep... I'm almost 34, I had enough... Don't need it. I've wanted to drink though, to see how it would affect music and writing. Today I did a lot of work under the influence of Xanax. Gives me a kind of relaxed energy, a clean looseness, no hangover, and usually close to 8 hours of sleep.
Movie Max
02-15-17, 09:31 AM
is homosexuality a mental illness?
That depends on who your sensei was and on whether his teachings were radical or not. To simplify, only if it's learned and permanently stuck in flamer mode. Part of the illness could come from sitting in a closet. Solitary confinement is not for everyone.:nope:
Movie Max
02-15-17, 09:37 AM
I jerk off an insane amount. Does that count?
Married life.:facepalm:
Read this the other day, wonder if radiation from reactors has an impotence effect...
Survey: Nearly Half of Japanese Couples Live in Sexless Marriages
http://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-japanese-couples-live-sexless-marriages-new-survey-finds-556549
Movie Max
02-15-17, 09:41 AM
Does a massage therapist count?
In your case, only if it ends with a tug.:D
MovieMeditation
02-17-17, 07:59 PM
I have a headache right now. Doesn't that literally makes me mentally ill or???
Anyways, I'm as mental as they come whenever whereever...
Captain Steel
08-15-18, 11:43 PM
Oh, and by the way, it's all because of TheUsualSuspect.
He literally drove me insane with his alt accounts. I thought he was trying to kill me. Eventually, I thought YOU ALL were trying to kill me.
Did you think I was trying to kill you too, SC? If so how (I'm so curious).
Make believe your me, then make believe I'm OJ and tell us (even though I didn't) how I would have done it IF I DID IT!
Captain Steel
08-15-18, 11:56 PM
Yes. I thought you were TheUsualSuspect under an alt account (as Captain Steel) and that this forum was some kind of sick game of his that he ran. I thought Yoda was the same thing, with the same reasoning behind it. Suspect really messed me up with his alt accounts.
Did your therapist provide any insight on how these theories may have come about in your head?
Was there any clues or evidence you saw that would seem to suggest random posters were the same people?
And let's say you were correct - say there are only 10 member here all posing as a hundred different people... so what? How would that drive you insane? I might view it as strange or silly or immature, or it would make me decide to leave the site, finding out that every member was out to deceive each other (beyond the normal extents we all subconsciously do that anyway), but I can't say it would make me feel insane - it might make me think those 20 people had problems.
But then (I am no way getting down on you) applying the way my brain might work at times is not fair to compare with someone who bravely admits they have mental problems. Although we can probably relate and commiserate on certain levels, I do not suffer from the same problems you do and probably don't process things the same way at the same times.
MovieGal
08-16-18, 12:01 AM
Sexy Celebrity
Not everyone is sane... everyone has problems... look at me!
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
It's just it's been really hard dealing with it this past year, dealing with the forum and it.
After all the scary incidents, I tried to just stay the Hell away.
I'm a lot more nervous and afraid of things now. Less trusting.
Definitely concentrate on making your real life better
Maybe it was seven cops, not like I like to revisit the lowest point in my life.
Captain Steel
08-16-18, 12:20 AM
I would say I'm mentally ill, sane and relatively functional all at the same time.
First I've been a drug addict for decades - that's got to put me in the mentally ill category right there (doesn't it? or do I have a "disease"?)
I'm not an alcoholic as I'm so far beyond alcohol that I only view it as an accoutrement to drugs (alcohol is like a nice hor devours, but by itself it satisfies my desire for an altered state, the way an hor devour might satisfy a ravenous hunger).
Next I've got my neurosis, minor compulsions (the funny thing with my rituals, compulsions and little idiosyncrasies is they always have very intricate and logical reasons behind them and when I explain them to people they're usually amazed - some even adopt the habits. I always say I never do anything with a really good reason - and it's true).
I have my minor social phobias, fetishes and things that make me eccentric. Ego problems are probably my worst area - low self-esteem, being unassertive and reclusive, hating crowds and feeling that dealing with various social conventions and complexities are not worth the potential "good time" that might be had in a successful pursuit of them. Always trying to make deals with God & the universe and then feeling let down when my sacrifice goes unrewarded, knowing I have a very high I.Q. while apparently facing the reality that I have no idea how to utilize it in any practical way (like toward finding a good job, having a career, building success, avoiding various problems in life).
So, does all this add up to me being mentally ill?
I'd love to analyze my brother - he's truly mentally ill with some of the biggies that makes him still functional to an extent, but completely dysfunctional in many areas.
MovieGal
08-16-18, 12:34 AM
Sexy Celebrity
I have a lot of issues but I'm not comfortable airing them out in public. I know I have many diagnoses of mental illness. Sometimes I have to keep things to myself. I have a big problem with trusting someone so I keep it all in. I don't even trust a therapist.
Captain Steel
08-16-18, 12:35 AM
Wow, Captain Steel.
So you are still a drug user?
Oh yes - but the time of dread and withdrawal is right around the corner as I just ran out (and it's not like I have a Huggy Bear dealer in the park I can go find). My dealer is my doctor and once I run out I have to wait a half a year to get a refill without being accused of exhibiting "drug seeking behavior")
The funny thing (not funny actually) is how every time I get a new stock of drugs I have this long serious talk with myself about how I'm not going to squander or waste them this time - I'll only indulge on the weekend (like I did when I first began abusing), that way I'll have something to look forward to, and they'll last for months that way (imagine having a stock that lasts for months)... and then invariably I say it won't hurt to celebrate by starting off with just one, then the next day (hey I only took one so far, and two would really give me the good feeling I used to get, and I still have plenty... and so it goes the next day and the next, sometimes taking one, or one and a half, or two.) Before I know it, less then 2 weeks later and the entire bottle is gone - then the depression sets in and the creeping withdrawals begin.
I've found a huge part about drugs isn't the getting high (as once you've built up tolerance you stand around wondering if you're even feeling it), but it's about looking forward to something. It's the anticipation that becomes the high, but then the compulsion to take them and ultimately use them up, kills even the aspect of anticipation. It's a vicious circle.
MovieGal
08-16-18, 12:38 AM
MovieGal
I do recommend finding a good therapist. Everyone could benefit from one, not just the mentally ill. I just saw mine again today.
I know therapist isn't supposed to divulge anything I say to them to anyone unless its to hurt myself or someone else but I can't do it... I don't trust. I can't trust.
Captain Steel
08-16-18, 12:56 AM
Can I ask what you take, Captain Steel?
Percocet. Oxycodone is my preference. I'd take Vicodin if I could get some - at first I thought Vidodin was much more subtle then Percocet, but then found it's subtleties very attractive. I always liked the decription in side-effects, "An enhanced feeling of well being" - a perfect description. For about 2 hours, my constant low-level tension & anxiety take a back seat as everything becomes much more interesting (makes me wonder if this is what normal perception is like for normal people who don't have non-stop anxiety eating away at their soul?)
I take Tramadol (if I can ever get it from anyone) for a pick-me-up: makes me feel like I've had many cups of coffee - wish I could find something like this that isn't a drug yet nothing natural seems to have the same effect.
Recently discovered Ambien - full blown high before bed - kind of like drunk, but much more fun and without all the ill effects of alcohol (but you've got to be careful with the memory loss). Plus you sleep all night through a nearly perfect sleep.
Smoked pot in the olden days which, as an artist, I loved it's creative and enhancing effects - everything tastes better, feels better, movies are more interesting, sleep better, it's a natural aphrodesiac! (The only thing I had trouble with was reading after getting stoned - comic books were cool - extra cool in fact, but reading regular books just seemed too much a strain, whereas I love reading on pain killers!)
But, whereas I'm fully functional on Percocet, pot had to be reserved for private times as I couldn't function socially or appear sober after using it (and you have the unhealthy aspect of carcinogens from smoking it).
Now they're saying Pot is a treatment for heroin addiction (of which is Oxycodone is a form) - hey I'd trade it all for Pot again!
matt72582
08-16-18, 07:23 AM
I would say I'm mentally ill, sane and relatively functional all at the same time.
First I've been a drug addict for decades - that's got to put me in the mentally ill category right there (doesn't it? or do I have a "disease"?)
I'm not an alcoholic as I'm so far beyond alcohol that I only view it as an accoutrement to drugs (alcohol is like a nice hor devours, but by itself it satisfies my desire for an altered state, the way an hor devour might satisfy a ravenous hunger).
Next I've got my neurosis, minor compulsions (the funny thing with my rituals, compulsions and little idiosyncrasies is they always have very intricate and logical reasons behind them and when I explain them to people they're usually amazed - some even adopt the habits. I always say I never do anything with a really good reason - and it's true).
I have my minor social phobias, fetishes and things that make me eccentric. Ego problems are probably my worst area - low self-esteem, being unassertive and reclusive, hating crowds and feeling that dealing with various social conventions and complexities are not worth the potential "good time" that might be had in a successful pursuit of them. Always trying to make deals with God & the universe and then feeling let down when my sacrifice goes unrewarded, knowing I have a very high I.Q. while apparently facing the reality that I have no idea how to utilize it in any practical way (like toward finding a good job, having a career, building success, avoiding various problems in life).
So, does all this add up to me being mentally ill?
I don't think it's all or nothing. It's not like "Ok, if you have ONE more idiosyncrasy, then it's a problem"... I have my own, do things my own way, and as mentioned later, half the fun (and half the horror) is looking forward to something. I've been an addict of multiple things my entire adult life, only taking breaks by leaving the continent, but I usually found something.. Isn't that funny -- I can go to a country and find the dealers, but the cops can't? (another business...)
I'm prescribed 3mg of xanax every night, and again with the Norcos, it's having something to look forward to every couple hours, and then in between, ruining the "buzz" with candies, etc... I look at it as a survival thing, just like when I come here to talk about movies, one of a few things I'm passionate about. I think that's why I've never tried to hide anything or lie, because even movie tastes say something about a person, and when describing them, it's impossible NOT to show parts of me.. Lately though, I might have either become more content, or realizing this is the way life is, not necessarily what you're doing, but how you feel inside most of the time. I might not have typed this out if I didn't wake up at 4:30am (I ate the greasiest burger yesterday). In the last few years, I've discovered that being alone, staying at home, working at home, not spending any money (to save time), music, movies, comedy, and chat is the best it's gonna be from here on out.
18 years ago, I took ambien, and I believe Roseanne (lol)... I just felt I was floating, and would have urges to drink alcohol - I once broke a bottle of corkscrew wine on the driveway to drink at 3am.. I once had the greatest urge to go gambling, but I knew better somehow. After a month, I noticed if I didn't fall asleep within an hour, I'd be delirious all night, so I quit that. With xanax, I'm relaxed.. I have legitimate pain, and although going to doctors can be a pain (lol), I guess that amount of energy is little compared to the amount it gives me to function and to do daily things, cleaning up and taking care of things, as I live alone... I smoke pot all day long (those are my big 3, although I used to be very addicted to oxycontin, but they weren't around when I got back from Australia) and wouldn't trade the euphoria for anything, so no regrets.... When the moment is mundane, I throw some smoke on it, knowing I'll have a warm embrace, although the two combined take away from each other..... My doctor once prescribed me Tramadol, and it worked at first, but then I remember driving at not hallucinating, but pretty close, and threw them all in the toilet..... I think if a person can get the same results by eating well, exercising, etc., do THAT! I've heard from my doctor about possible changes to pain management, so keep that in mind (withdrawals), which can be scary at times, but it's out of my control, but I'd rather suffer and have my freedom from Johnny Law (first time I've used that term).
I've enjoyed reading you, because you don't come off as a xerox. I like original people. You know, I've noticed when a majority have these nuances, it's quite alright, but the majority is usually wrong a majority of the time, and I think each person knows themselves better than anyone else... I'm hedonistic, I avoid pain if I can, and try to get as much pleasure as I can to stay alive.
cat_sidhe
09-05-18, 03:02 PM
I saw my pdoc today. He was proud of me. And decided to not switch me to lithium.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/g5zvwUa9720pO/200_d.gif
ash_is_the_gal
09-05-18, 05:33 PM
i have anxiety. i've had it all my life, really, but it became unbearable a couple years ago and for the first time i sought out help. i've been seeing a therapist since. usually meditation helps, but when it gets really bad i totally freeze up and have the hardest time performing the simplest of tasks - like brushing my teeth or feeding the cat - without getting nauseous.
my triggers can be anything that makes me nervous, but it's usually related to social stuff, because i'm also painfully socially anxious. yesterday i had my first panic attack in awhile, and it was triggered from getting super anxious about a work-related luncheon i had to go to. even after the luncheon was over (and it seriously wasn't even that bad), the anxiety wouldn't lessen. for normal people, once the icky thing they were dreading is over and done with, so are their butterflies. for people with legit anxiety disorders, not so. i hate how it feels like an infection, like you have to 'get it out of your system' like a cold or flu. blech. >.<
cat_sidhe
09-05-18, 05:37 PM
I show my Joker side with my pdoc. He's pretty cool. Like an older Swedish guy with wardrobe fsilures. It's probably why I can let myself go. :lol:
spookiemoviemania
09-06-18, 12:40 AM
You tell me if I had a mental illness. I stress had. I managed to get myself into such a anxious state when I was engaged to my future wife that I had severe nerves of the stomach. Whenever we went out to dinner I would feel violently ill at the sight of food.
I can tell you this added twofold to my anxiety problem.. in short I was in a living hell. I had a huge decision to make.. call off the marriage or endure my hell as I did not want to lose her. I was so ashamed over my condition I could not tell my fiancee.. this also added to my nervous disposition.
My wedding day was a nitemare/joyous occasion in one. Over time the nerves vanished but my psychosomatica continued. It remained for decades. I could not enjoy my sons coming of age birthday party, my brothers 50th birthday or my own 50th even our wedding anniversaries..
I had severe insomnia on top of everything and was diagnosed with acute Sleep Apnea when I was 45. I did consider seeing a psychiatrist at one stage but shunned it as I was ashamed.. Silly me looking back, I believe I did need professional help to avoid my condition from lasting as long as it did.
This bearing of my soul is not easy as I am rather a private person.
cat_sidhe
09-12-18, 02:13 PM
You tell me if I had a mental illness. I stress had. I managed to get myself into such a anxious state when I was engaged to my future wife that I had severe nerves of the stomach. Whenever we went out to dinner I would feel violently ill at the sight of food.
I can tell you this added twofold to my anxiety problem.. in short I was in a living hell. I had a huge decision to make.. call off the marriage or endure my hell as I did not want to lose her. I was so ashamed over my condition I could not tell my fiancee.. this also added to my nervous disposition.
My wedding day was a nitemare/joyous occasion in one. Over time the nerves vanished but my psychosomatica continued. It remained for decades. I could not enjoy my sons coming of age birthday party, my brothers 50th birthday or my own 50th even our wedding anniversaries..
I had severe insomnia on top of everything and was diagnosed with acute Sleep Apnea when I was 45. I did consider seeing a psychiatrist at one stage but shunned it as I was ashamed.. Silly me looking back, I believe I did need professional help to avoid my condition from lasting as long as it did.
This bearing of my soul is not easy as I am rather a private person.
It isn't the best idea to ask non professionals for a diagnosis, but it sounds like an anxiety disorder. Do you still have trouble with anxiety, insomnia and sleep apnea?
spookiemoviemania
09-15-18, 04:34 AM
My question was more rhetorical. I now have mild apnea and yes I still suffer from insomnia. But I have managed to dispell the anxiety. Thanks for your concern.
cat_sidhe
10-21-18, 02:55 PM
Finally had a long conversation with my parents and let them know about my diagnosis and they were so relieved as I couldn't tell them...not until I was ok with it because I was so worried they'd blame themselves,or just freak out. They both cried because I told them in a very gentle "don't worry about me way " and all this time of my isolating myself from them made sense.
It was hard coming out with it for me. I was so sure they're freak out but my tone of voice was calm and I could prove I'm still me.
They forgave me the wait bcause they understood I had to be alright and calm to convey the information.
Again, I'm lucky that went well.
the samoan lawyer
10-22-18, 08:53 AM
Finally had a long conversation with my parents and let them know about my diagnosis and they were so relieved as I couldn't tell them...not until I was ok with it because I was so worried they'd blame themselves,or just freak out. They both cried because I told them in a very gentle "don't worry about me way " and all this time of my isolating myself from them made sense.
It was hard coming out with it for me. I was so sure they're freak out but my tone of voice was calm and I could prove I'm still me.
They forgave me the wait bcause they understood I had to be alright and calm to convey the information.
Again, I'm lucky that went well.
Good to hear Cat!
cat_sidhe
10-22-18, 09:34 AM
Good to hear Cat!
Thanks...I really didn't think I was ever going to tell them. I'm quite proud of them for not getting melodramatic. :bashful:
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