View Full Version : No plebeians allowed! - Mr Minio's honest music thread
Mr Minio
08-27-15, 10:16 PM
I'd love for there to be a Minio music thread. You give me no other choice!
WARNING!
NO PLEBS BEYOND THIS LINE!
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Musical Gods! Unknown to plebs!
My rating system:
rating_5 - only the most refined and metaphysical stuff to be found here! Even most of my favourite artists never made it! This is the world of impossible, invicible and my bad sense of humour.
rating_4_5 - a masterpiece of music. The infinite.
rating_4 - an incredibly good album! A masterpiece, or highly enjoyable for me personally, or both.
rating_3_5 - pretty good! This is some good stuff! It's by no means a masterwork, but a highly recommended piece of music anyway.
rating_3 - yeah, it's okay, I guess... It's still better than worse, but something just doesn't click for me. A slight disappointment.
rating_2_5 - pretty mediocre! I'm indifferent to this stuff! It may even be pretty boring, or bad musically, but if I don't mind it playing in the background, it probably would get this rating.
rating_2 - bad! It doesn't even work as background music, because it's pretty annoying, or simply put sh*tty!
rating_1_5 - crap! If an album gets a rating like this from me, it's either a huge disappointment from a band I like, or a total turd!
rating_1 - Words can't express how bad this stuff is! It's so bad it makes Hitler good!
rating_0_5 - minus infinity. To make music so bad you actually need a bigger skill (or lack of thereof) than to make a masterpiece. Depths of hell await for all 0.5 rated albums (and the artists/bands who created them).
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Alright, so I've rated 2,499 albums on RYM so far (listened to a tad bit more than that, but at one point I deleted all my ratings and didn't rerate everything) and decided that my 2,500 rating has to be something well known I haven't listened to yet. No matter if I like it, or not. So yeah, Metallica was an obvious choice. It's a band loved by high school kids trying to be trv and metal and rebellious and stuff (I guess Slipknot has taken the lead now, but still...), but also by refined music critics and of course it's very popular and the opinions are divided, so I need to make my own. Back in a day when I was into modern metal I thought Metallica was dull and boring and I never managed to sit through any full-length album. I played some of their songs on guitar, but mainly because I didn't have any idea what else to play and because Enter Sandman and Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit was giving orgasms to one girl from my school, so me and two other guitarists kept playing it over and over and she was like: "OH MY GOD! THIS IS SO AWESOME! OMG!" and she was almost crying and probably wet down there. Whatever. I'm of course exaggerating it.
Anyways, since I'm going to listen to Metallica I decided their debut album would be a perfect pick. Some trv and kvlt thrash metal maniacs claim that Metallica has ended with Kill 'Em All, so we have a very nice (actually a terrible) start here. Without further ado, let's get to it!
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Metalica - Kill 'Em All (1983)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/3/8/538.jpg?5014
Two first songs were pretty boring and uninspiring. Your typical thrash metal with some solos put there just because. Motorbreath brings a change to vocals that no longer sound lame and become quite enjoyable. Sadly, some guitar solos kick in. It's not that they are terrible, but they don't really fit in there in my point of view. They destroy the nice atmosphere created so far in the song. Next song and again the vocals are nothing to fap to. I don't like the echoing effect they have there. It sounds as if the vocalist had his head in a vacuum when singing. WTF is wrong with (Anasthesia) Pulling Teeth? Only guitar playing? Lame. Okay, now other instruments kicked in. Whatever. I kinda like the riff of Phantom Lord. They have to kick in with these solos, don't they? Meh. Ah, yes, a couple of mehs later and we get the well known Seek and Destroy. The intro riff is alright. And the vocalist even says 'alright' as if he agreed his music is only alright and nothing more. It's weak! Wow, kinda dull, too, but listenable as background music. Metal Mili CHAU! And some marching at the end. I almost thought the album already ended and some neo folk popped up next. Blah.
Summing up:
Best song: Motorbreath
Worst song: Everything else!
Feels: None! It's listenable and I wasn't struggling to finish it, though!
Trivia: There's a version of this album with two other songs. These are covers, but no way in hell I'll be listening this. Moreover, people say this album is one giant rip off, but so are Led Zeppelin albums. At least Led Zeppelin's music is good.
Rating:
I feel like giving a strong rating_2 to weak rating_2_5 for this thing.
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I will be listening to Nirvana's albums pretty soon, too. I may even decide to relisten most of my albums and be harsher with the ratings this time.
Great, now I have to listen to something else, because I can't go to bed like this. Too bad Metallica, you're getting a 2 star rating from me for your first album. Hopefully their next albums are better!
MovieGal
08-27-15, 10:20 PM
Hmm so I guess that means I cant say anything in your thread! Im not much of a Metallica fan. :P
cricket
08-27-15, 10:20 PM
Any Metallica album is worth more than that rating!
Mr Minio
08-27-15, 10:23 PM
Perhaps their next albums will get a higher rating. I used to listen to a lot of Master of the Puppets songs and I liked them back in the time. No idea how I'd react to them now, though.
cricket
08-27-15, 10:26 PM
Searching.........Seek and Destroy!
Excited for this. :up: I find that I don't really care about the popularity of an artist, I just like music. The problem is I'm so overexposed to the popular stuff and haven't listened to nearly enough obscure stuff that might be good. Which is why I have you, Minio. :p
I rate Kill 'Em All 3.5. I can understand not loving it - it's my least favorite of their first three albums (the only ones I care about), but it's still good to me. I do absolutely love "Seek and Destroy".
Perhaps their next albums will get a higher rating. I used to listen to a lot of Master of the Puppets songs and I liked them back in the time. No idea how I'd react to them now, though.
Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are great but I'm not sure I absolutely love them like masterpieces anymore, as I hear more metal. Maybe it's because I've burned myself out listening to them, or because I've discovered better stuff, but lately I haven't found myself in the mood to listen to them, even when I go to put on metal (which is pretty much all the time now).
Derek Vinyard
08-28-15, 12:02 AM
St. Anger is BY FAR the weakest Metallica album even if I like it a lot...
Guaporense
08-28-15, 12:10 AM
Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are great but I'm not sure I absolutely love them like masterpieces anymore, as I hear more metal. Maybe it's because I've burned myself out listening to them, or because I've discovered better stuff, but lately I haven't found myself in the mood to listen to them, even when I go to put on metal (which is pretty much all the time now).
Well, I personally appreciated them more the more metal I listened. Metallica are really talented and they were able to make very memorable thrash metal, which is a hard task. Although there are many thrash albums I prefer now over any Metallica album.
Kill en All is an excellent album that exemplifies proto-thrash metal (it's not quite pure thrash yet, still very close to NWBHM) though I prefer Slayer's Show no Mercy among 1983 proto-thrash albums.
I just hope Minio doesn't decide to listen (and predictably trash) to Iron Maiden, Slayer, Helloween, Ensiferum, Black Sabbath, Virgin Steele, Kreator or Judas Priest now. :sick:
Maybe you should review something considered bad like Jugulator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roszP-r6cLg
:D
Guap - I didn't mean to trash Metallica or anything, I may have been wrong about my reasons. I think it's more that I just got burnt out on them. Remember, Metallica was the first metal I really got into at a young age. It's only natural that I'll get burnt out on them and, as I discover more metal, might turn towards that stuff.
Metallica were untouchable for me as a kid. Nothing could top Master of Puppets, and it was never a question. Now it's a question. As much as I love that album, it's not the flawless masterpiece I once saw it as. It's just a fantastic metal album. So only a minor step down. :p
I do 100% agree with you about their talents in composing memorable thrash metal riffs and melodies. That is, as you say, an incredibly hard task, but Metallica in their prime excelled at that.
Mr Minio
08-28-15, 09:26 AM
I just hope Minio doesn't decide to listen (and predictably trash) to Iron Maiden, Slayer, Helloween, Ensiferum, Black Sabbath, Virgin Steele, Kreator or Judas Priest now. :sick: You give me no other choice!
Slayer - Reign in Blood (1986)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/1/2/212.jpg?5958
I used to hate Slayer as a kid, but I've lately decided to give it another chance. Reign in Blood is arguably their most known and appreciated album. I never thought of myself as of a fan of thrash metal. Actually, I can't say I am a fan of the genre, but in the name of broadening my musical tastes, I'll give some thrash metal albums a listen. Reign in Blood starts heavy and keeps heavy until it ends. No room for musical digressions or whimsical interruptions of agression. Even those seconds of ambiental sounds feel sinister and brutal. Sure, it makes the album less variant, but in spite of Metallica's debut, it never bores or feels out of place. Can't say I love the vocals, but they fit the music perfectly. The solos blend nicely with the rest, but it's not like they are anything more than guitar wanking. Not that it is a bad thing. I like wanking. After only one listen it's hard for me to name my favourite and least favourite song. The album nicely works as a whole
Summing up:
Best song: All of them are good, but Raining Blood slays!
Worst song: Can't tell after only one listen.
Feels: That's some good stuff. No strong feels, though. I guess I will be listening to it again!
Trivia: Typical Slayer fan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLfvDG3B79s
Rating:
A nice surprise. I expected to hate it, given my past loathe for Slayer. I think it's a strong rating_3 or weak rating_3_5, but after only one listen I can't say for sure. I might give it the benefit of the doubt and grant the higher rating!
See Guap? I didn't thrash it! See what I did here? :cool:
Funny, we agree again. :) I didn't like Reign of Blood at first but it has since grown on me.
Mr Minio
08-28-15, 01:51 PM
Funny, we agree again. :) That's because all great minds are alike. I will be listening to next Metallica album in the night today!
Mr Minio
08-28-15, 09:33 PM
I watched 7 films today and I don't feel like writing anything more than the rating for Ride the Lightning. 2.5
Much better than the previous one. If Metallica keeps getting better, Master of the Puppets should be a 3 star album.
I gave Slayer's album 3 stars. Trying to be stricter with my ratings now!
What are your thoughts on Pig Destroyer, Sir Minio?
It's kind of funny that you say no plebs allowed and then the first two albums you rate are as entry level as can be. I'm not complaining though. I'm glad you made a music thread, and I like the way you've done your reviews so far. I don't care for Metallica or Slayer, but I enjoyed the way you talked about them. I hope you get to some really whacked out crazy music soon. :3
Mr Minio
08-29-15, 08:43 AM
It's kind of funny that you say no plebs allowed and then the first two albums you rate are as entry level as can be. I will also review some obscure weird stuff, but so far I feel like it's a funny juxtaposition between the material being reviewed and thread's premise. Also, I wouldn't call those write-ups reviews just as my Movie Tab II write-ups are not reviews.
Metalica - Master of Puppets (1986)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LKD1q2lEHeE/U-9VvmhjWDI/AAAAAAAAAz0/hDeEWzUVkjg/s1600/Metallica-Master-of-Puppets.png
With every album Metallica seems to be getting better. Their repetitive riffs from the first album are still repetitive here, but intersected with some melodic parts that add some variety to the mix. You can especially see this in the title song that is alright. I used to play it on guitar and it's a fun song to play. The track before it - Battery isn't schmuck neither. Then comes The Thing That Should Not Be. I can't remember it even though I just listened to it. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) and Disposable Heroes are getting boring. Half an hour into the CD and it gets boring. The second song has an obvious meaning and the constant 'back in the front!' is getting on my nerves already. Leper Messiah has some nice riffage, but that's it. Orion is so far the most atmospheric Metallica song. The intro sounds cool and so does the whole song until the change of pace. Metallica wants to be progressive in their song structure, but when they are, they do it unskillfully and when they are not, they are repetitive and dull. The last track. Yeah, whatever.
Summing up:
Best song: Orion (until the pace change), Master of Puppets,
Worst song: Thing That Should Not Be (probably), Disposable Heroes
Feels: I'm bored and disappointed with Metallica again. Some good riffage here and there, but overall boredom.
Trivia:
Some videos, because why not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBHLjIL_Rdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvU6InSuHJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVid_fLzN5g
The last one is better than Metallica. Gotta listen to this album.
Rating:
I even wanted to give it rating_3 at one point, but that's the rating I've given to Slayer album and I could relisten to Reign in Blood, but you'd have to force me to relisten Metallica. rating_2_5 then.
Mr Minio
08-29-15, 10:10 PM
Decided to take a break from Metallica and metal and venture into the 80's Japan.
秋元薫 [Kaoru Akimoto] - Cologne (1986)
http://animuze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/kaoru_akimoto_cologne.jpg
Insanely enjoyable City Pop! It's quite different from Seaside Lovers' only album that seems to be one of the most popular in the genre. The vocalist here has a sweet voice and puts it to a good use. The songs feel nostalgic even though I've never heard them before. Alright, I have. I'm listening it the second time now, but you know what I mean. It's a hot breeze on the beach and wine in your hand music. Or maybe a beautiful girl next to you on the couch in pop art apartment with big windows that peek into the night. Only you and her. Wine. Candles. And this music. It's indeed similar to Taeko Ohnuki's albums, but the vocals feel even more sultry. Of course, there's that strong 80's feel with delicate synths, but these never make the album sound out of place. Beautiful first date music. Beautiful last date music. Beautiful music in general. Sadly, it is the only album from Kaoru Akimoto. Truly a pity given how good it is and how prolific was her muse, Taeko Ohnuki.
rating_3_5
Mr Minio
08-29-15, 10:36 PM
No idea what album will be next. I have some industrial, rock in opposition, more city pop, v/a compilations, next Metallica album and Nirvana albums I talked about before.
You should review some Noise. :D
Mr Minio
08-29-15, 10:51 PM
Noise is good for parvenus who only listen to it to show how high level they are.
Anyways, there is a couple of noise records I like, but I'm not really into pure noise. Noise pop and noise rock on the other hand...
Here's a good noise for ya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMdWAKyDCHE
Swan should be very intersted in it (see: the title).
I don't like pure Noise either. It has to incorporate just the right amount of Noise to be really good. Yellow Swans was interesting, but not really my jam tbh. My type of Noise has got ta be infused with Metal or Hardcore. Well, usually... I am still open to try anything.
I remembered you made a comment about Grindcore being inferior to Pornogrind in the Chill Club thread (or something along the lines) to Swan. I wanted to comment, but then the conversation moved on, so it didn't seem proper. I just wanted to say that Goregrind, Deathgrind, and Pornogrind have never appealed to me. I'd be interested to hear a band that I would like. I can certainly listen to it, which actually kind of surprises me because it used to trigger my gag reflex. But I still just don't really particularly enjoy anything I've heard so far. It's really brutally heavy, which is cool, but besides that I haven't heard anything exceptionally interesting. I do love Grindcore though. Now, I sensed you were being humorous, but do you really not like Grindcore?
Also I have been noticing for several years now a surge of Powerviolence/Grindcore bands like this:
https://animalsoncoke.bandcamp.com/track/diary-of-a-dad
Mr Minio
08-30-15, 10:46 AM
大貫妙子 [Taeko Ohnuki] - Romantique (1980)
http://img05.shop-pro.jp/PA01112/217/product/83217272_o1.jpg
A great Kayōkyoku album. It's beautiful. Carnaval begins with her vocals, but then a giant orgy of synths starts! There couldn't have been a better ending to this song. ディケイド・ナイト has a very catchy chorus that made me fall in love with Ohnuki's voice even more. 雨の夜明け has some incredible tango accordion fills! Almost as if Astor Piazzolla decided to sneak into Ohnuki's room with his big instrument... And play! Taeko's voice really does sound stellar (damn you, Swan) in this song. 若き日の望楼 sounds refined with elegant piano and slow tempo. There's an additional male voice on Bohemian and they sing French. Fade out is always a bad way to end a song. 果てなき旅情 is amazing. You live for songs like this. Some Momoe Yamaguchi feels there. The part in the middle just before the vocals kick back in is incredible. And after this a guitar solo kicks in! It's in the background, so more as an atmospheric purpose than wanking purpose. Sadly, the song fades out. ふたり continues the idea of sophisticated goodness, but then some crazy beats kick in and backing men choirs! A trumpet (?) solo kicks in later. Pretty cool. 軽蔑 has a happy sound to it. Quite different compared to rather sad/serious feels from previous songs. It's more upbeat and in the style of first songs from this CD. 新しいシャツ is very nostalgic, warm, but kinda melancholic. 蜃気楼の街 is great, too and you know what? My version has a bonus track! Its title's I want to be saved in love. Pretty good and trumpet again! This and the previous album I reviewed need a lot more listens for pretty plausible at this point even higher rating. So far, though:
rating_3_5
Guaporense
08-30-15, 05:39 PM
It's kind of funny that you say no plebs allowed and then the first two albums you rate are as entry level as can be. I'm not complaining though. I'm glad you made a music thread, and I like the way you've done your reviews so far. I don't care for Metallica or Slayer, but I enjoyed the way you talked about them. I hope you get to some really whacked out crazy music soon. :3
I actually wouldn't consider Reign in Blood to be quite entry level. When I first listened to it I thought: this ain't good music because it's faster than Iron Maiden :mad:. Only after a couple of years I started to appreciate it. :) Though that was perhaps because it was my Iron Maiden phase: music quality for me was measured as the inverse of the distance to Iron Maiden's sound. :D
I would regard as entry level metal Iron Maiden's first 7 albums and Brave New World. :p Maybe Judas Priest's Screaming for Vengeance. Well, those were the only stuff I could actually enjoy at the time. Though I disliked Halford's vocals at the time because they were too different from Dickinson's. :p
Still Mr. Minio should review some real thrash metal, like Kreator, Sodom and Sarcofago. Well I am commenting on a lot of other metal albums on my review thread. But nobody comments. :(
I actually wouldn't consider Reign in Blood to be quite entry level. When I first listened to it I thought: this ain't good music because it's faster than Iron Maiden :mad:. Only after a couple of years I started to appreciate it. :) Though that was perhaps because it was my Iron Maiden phase: music quality for me was measured as the inverse of the distance to Iron Maiden's sound. :D
I would regard as entry level metal Iron Maiden's first 7 albums and Brave New World. :p Maybe Judas Priest's Screaming for Vengeance. Well, those were the only stuff I could actually enjoy at the time. Though I disliked Halford's vocals at the time because they were too different from Dickinson's. :p
Still Mr. Minio should review some real thrash metal, like Kreator, Sodom and Sarcofago. Well I am commenting on a lot of other metal albums on my review thread. But nobody comments. :(
You have a music review thread, Guap? I didn't know! Link meh.
Guaporense
08-30-15, 05:48 PM
I was talking about the rate the last album you heard. My reviewing skills are too crappy but I might make a review thread. :)
Oh. Well, I don't comment because I haven't heard of most of the stuff you review about. Same goes for Minio's last two reviews. I definitely look to you guys for recs though, so your reviews haven't gone unnoticed.
Mr Minio
08-30-15, 05:56 PM
He's referring to Rate the Last Album You Heard thread.
EDIT: That's what happens when you open a MoFo in one tab and get back to it ten minutes later without refreshing the page.
Mr Minio
09-02-15, 12:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD6_QXwKesU
I'm trying to sing and play this song, but I can't get it right. I can play the chords and sing it separately, but I can't get it to work together, which is embarrasing given how easy it is. I tried it for ten minutes and failed, so I guess I will watch a film now. I'm too easily discouraged to be good at guitar. xD
You first picture was of Shostakovich, so this HAS to be good!!!
Guaporense
09-03-15, 01:13 AM
Trivia: Typical Slayer fan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLfvDG3B79s
He understands Slayer perfectly. :eek: Indeed Slayer was instrumental in developing music to more extreme areas, being perhaps the definitive extreme metal band and indeed the most famous and influential North American one (together with Bathory and Celtic Frost from Europe).
Guaporense
09-03-15, 01:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD6_QXwKesU
I'm trying to sing and play this song, but I can't get it right. I can play the chords and sing it separately, but I can't get it to work together, which is embarrasing given how easy it is. I tried it for ten minutes and failed, so I guess I will watch a film now. I'm too easily discouraged to be good at guitar. xD
You should try to play Ramones or Judas Priest's Breaking the Law. Stuff that cannot leave you frustrated!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
Mr Minio
01-17-16, 03:45 PM
Not really a review since ain't nobody got time for that, but I listened to Nas - Illmatic - considered by my Internet friend to be the best rap album ever made.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1370898658_nasalbum.jpg
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Well, I've heard better rap albums.
Captain Steel
01-17-16, 03:59 PM
Since this is a music thread by Mr. Minio... here is the J-pop, rock idol group ℃-ute!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4SSojvio9dY/VDnT3IIqtEI/AAAAAAAAJkY/LFMQITdtM1o/s1600/c-ute%2Bmagazine%2B3.jpg
;)
AboveTheClouds
01-17-16, 03:59 PM
Illmatic is a classic, but is by no means the best of the best. If you've listened to other albums by Nas, then you will probably agree that this is is best, as imo the rest of his stuff only has a few good songs per record. But I'd rather listen to Big Pun, Big L, EPMD, Eric B and Rakim, Gangstarr, Tragedy Khadafi, Pharaoh Monche and Mobb Deep when it comes to classic NY stuff.
ursaguy
01-17-16, 04:02 PM
What is there to not like about Illmatic? My biggest problem with it is that it's too short. The lyrics are strong, most of the production is fantastic, and Nas is at his best form.
Mr Minio
01-17-16, 04:03 PM
Since this is a music thread by Mr. Minio... here is the J-pop, rock idol group ℃-ute! They indeed are cute, but I bet their music is mediocre (as with most idol groups). Still better than rap music, tho. (edgy, edgy)
AboveTheClouds
01-17-16, 04:05 PM
Well, when you have exposure to artists who make better music, he just ends up being lackluster even if he is at top form. He doesn't have skill at writing hooks and on later releases his production really lacks and he samples himself all the time. The best song he did after this album was his feature on Mobb Deep - The World is Mine.
Mr Minio
01-17-16, 04:34 PM
What is there to not like about Illmatic? My biggest problem with it is that it's too short. The lyrics are strong, most of the production is fantastic, and Nas is at his best form. I don't care about the lyrics in music (unless it's some stupid gangsta sheet, then I'm hatin' it). It's the least imporatnt part just like plot is least important in films. That's why rap is one of my least favourite genres, as it heavily relies on lyrical content whereas the sampled beats are not only repetitive and boring (few second loops - wut?!), but also sometimes stolen from other artists. Well, Future Funk and Vaporwave steal from other artists too, but at least they don't hide it and crank up that bass to infinity and become BANGERS in the first case or mediocre, but listenable watery music in the second case (HOWEVER WHEN THEY WATER DOWN BASS INFINITIES OF CHORAL MUSIC MAGIC IS MADE). Rap is so often very boring, too. I'd rather listen to 1h of drone music. However, there of course are exceptions and there are some rap albums I like. Still, compared to other genres, rap is very low (reggae is another sewage genre).
Captain Steel
01-17-16, 04:36 PM
They indeed are cute, but I bet their music is mediocre (as with most idol groups). Still better than rap music, tho. (edgy, edgy)
Yes, I don't like rap. And J-pop / K-pop usually has a certain "bubble gum" quality that appeals to me.
In that respect, some aspects of Asian media almost seem behind the times - for instance, they still have variety shows on TV similar to things we haven't seen since "Donny & Marie"!
But the neat thing is Japan has something the west does not - tons & tons of girl groups.
Now most think this is related to their men's sick preoccupation with teen girls (which may well have something to do with it). And many of the groups are mass produced by agencies (rather than say as individuals coming together in a garage just to make music.)
But it's kind of funny that they have hundreds of these girl idol groups while the west does not. I mean, they exist here to a small degree (mostly on the amateur level), but not to the extent as in Japan, nor are they raised to the level of celebrity here as in Asia.
Mr Minio
01-17-16, 04:39 PM
Have you ever been to Japan? It's so hard to get Japanese citizenship and it's so expensive to live there. There's a lot of weirdos who love to dress like little anime girls and also some other f*ckery I'd rather not even mention here, but the women kinda make up for it. However, I'd rather have Japanese girls here, than go there.
Mr Minio
01-17-16, 04:41 PM
Is it just me, or does my English sound drunk (or trivial) all of the sudden? Maybe... What... What if I always sounded like this, but it's just now that I realised it?!
@topic: Listened to some amazing Russian Orthodox music and now listening to a beautiful Italian prog rock 2015 (!) release.
Captain Steel
01-17-16, 04:42 PM
Nope, never been there.
But since you can never have enough of C-ute J-girls in bikinis...
http://wotaintranslation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/b0756284.jpg
AboveTheClouds
01-17-16, 04:48 PM
I used to listen to some VK like Dir En Grey, Malice Mizer, L'arc en Ciel, D'espairsRay and X Japan. But VK can be some weird stuff at times and has some very androgynous dudes.
Mr Minio
01-17-16, 04:56 PM
I don't even listen to Visual Kei, but maybe I have to give some of these a listen. Japanese music is way more than just VK and cute J-pop, though. Jun Togawa should be crowned the Japanese Queen of this thread. She has a strong rival in Doji Morita, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whFqr3YYoY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcx14vB6aos
PS: Who cares how they look - probably only gays and women. Just listen to music, do not look at the performers.
PS2: Who's this guy spamming my precious thread with some pics... oh... OOOOOHHHH... nevermind!
Captain Steel
01-17-16, 11:01 PM
For Mr. Minio, what exactly do you mean by "Plebs" in regards to music?
In exchange for an answer, here is another C-ute bikini photo!
(Heck, I just like bikini photos whether they help get an answer or not - and these aren't off-topic since they are an actual musical group! And not one most Plebs know about!) ;)
http://www.hello-online.org/res/picboardimg/201110/img20111004143444839.jpg
Mr Minio
02-26-16, 09:31 PM
For Mr. Minio, what exactly do you mean by "Plebs" in regards to music? Rap listeners etc.
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) - rating_1
http://www.xxlmag.com/files/2013/11/wu_tang_clan_enter_the_wu_tang_36_chambers-fjpg1.jpg
This album is:
1% samples from kung-fu films (the coolest and best part, hence +0.25 to the final rating)
30% the group members swearin', sayin' some stupid stuff and tryin' to be funny/edgy/gangsta
69% some rapping over very poor beats (2 sec loops, rly?)
One of the worst albums I've heard in my life. Even worse than Nas - Illmatic and it says a lot! I'll give it another +0.25 to the final rating for the sheer fact they had balls to release this. I'd be ashamed.
AboveTheClouds
02-26-16, 10:11 PM
Hahahahahahah. Straight from the motherfvckin' slums that's busted, Wu Tang Clan ain't nuthin to **** wit'.
Honestly though , I can see how you didn't like it especially if you don't care for Nas, so I would advise you to steer clear of the Mobb Deep's and the Big's L through Pun. Maybe go for some more of the Afrocentric, Avant-garde stuff and see if that stuff floats your boat. Gangstarr uses a lot of jazz samples and the like, stuff like Souls of Mischief and A Tribe Called Quest are some of the progenitors of the genre and a lot of the music is quite minimalist, focusing mainly on rhymes and delivery. Aesop Rock, Eyedea and Abilities, Cannibal Ox and Non Phixion are all a little more cerebral and the beats/music are usually very high quality and demonstrate lots of skill.
That Wu-Tang release is, in my eyes a total gem. But for anyone who doesn't really appreciate the more "street" sort of stuff, this album will not appeal to you, especially with Method Man's skit talking about how he's gonna take someones nuts, put them on a dresser and smash 'em up. Or ODB, because ODB is definitely an acquired taste. Keep in mind Wu-Tang is a loose collective of emcee's so their lyrical themes can vary on any given tracks, each member individually has a decent catalog of solo material. Best of which is GZA - Liquid Swords and Raekwon - Only Built for Cuban Linx. But I wouldn't really recommend either to you, hahaha.:D
Mr Minio
02-26-16, 10:19 PM
I think I'm done with rap for some time after hearing this CD. I know some of your recommendations, like Cannibal Ox etc., but not all of them, of course. Thanks.
PS: I gave GZA - Liquid Swords 3 - a little bit on benefit of the doubt, but whatever
ursaguy
02-26-16, 10:22 PM
If you can't appreciate the artistic merits of 36 chambers, you're letting your hatred of the genre blind you. Just stop talking about rap all together and try to save yourself before you say something really stupid, like... actually, I can't think of anything stupider than saying that 36 Chambers is the worst album you've heard in your life. Your only negatives are just aspects of the genre at large in that time period.
jiraffejustin
02-26-16, 10:48 PM
Rap listeners are plebs... coming from the guy who disregards lyrics in music.
AboveTheClouds
02-26-16, 11:16 PM
If you can't appreciate the artistic merits of 36 chambers, you're letting your hatred of the genre blind you. Just stop talking about rap all together and try to save yourself before you say something really stupid, like... actually, I can't think of anything stupider than saying that 36 Chambers is the worst album you've heard in your life. Your only negatives are just aspects of the genre at large in that time period.
Or the fact that musically and stylistically speaking it's a filthy record.. the beats, lyrics and whole persona of the album and group were sculpted and crafted by men who knew what they wanted Wu-Tang to be, which was a reflection of what they had going on around them and the stuff they lived every day. This was without a doubt the dirtiest record to come out of New York at that time, and the group features men who by themselves influenced the genre in ways that non fans will never be able to fathom.
On the real though, people that often have a refined taste for music and people who don't have a lifestyle similar to, or one which lets them empathize with the plight these guys feel just will not connect with it. So basically you're hating Mr. Minio because of your own biases, I love the record and didn't find it fitting to attack Minio because of his views because I can appreciate and understand that some folks just cannot connect to this type of music on the level that they need too in order to enjoy it.
If I were to write a review about an Archgoat album, and someone were to say they didn't like it for any reason, I wouldn't be bothered because it's subject matter and music which is really not fit for mass consumption. I see no reason to flip **** because I think it's a classic and you don't. You want consensus for what's good or not in music, go listen to top 40 dude.
Music means different things to different people, different genre's affect people in different ways. Besides, taste in music, films, food, women/men etc are all objective, deal with it.
ursaguy
02-27-16, 12:48 AM
Or the fact that musically and stylistically speaking it's a filthy record.. the beats, lyrics and whole persona of the album and group were sculpted and crafted by men who knew what they wanted Wu-Tang to be, which was a reflection of what they had going on around them and the stuff they lived every day. This was without a doubt the dirtiest record to come out of New York at that time, and the group features men who by themselves influenced the genre in ways that non fans will never be able to fathom.
On the real though, people that often have a refined taste for music and people who don't have a lifestyle similar to, or one which lets them empathize with the plight these guys feel just will not connect with it. So basically you're hating Mr. Minio because of your own biases, I love the record and didn't find it fitting to attack Minio because of his views because I can appreciate and understand that some folks just cannot connect to this type of music on the level that they need too in order to enjoy it.
If I were to write a review about an Archgoat album, and someone were to say they didn't like it for any reason, I wouldn't be bothered because it's subject matter and music which is really not fit for mass consumption. I see no reason to flip **** because I think it's a classic and you don't. You want consensus for what's good or not in music, go listen to top 40 dude.
Music means different things to different people, different genre's affect people in different ways. Besides, taste in music, films, food, women/men etc are all objective, deal with it.
A Wu-Tang record is the strangest thing to get nothing positive out of, though. They are very deliberate in making sure that everybody has a different voice and personality, especially on this record. Saying that ODB or Method Man is too dirty or thuggish is completely fair, but to dismiss the entire album like that just makes him seem ignorant, because RZA is mostly classy and Raekwon is mostly objective about reality-both of them have almost nothing "filthy" about their parts. It's not just one guy, it's a group of people, most of whom can be described like that but a couple of them are explicitly not.
Guaporense
02-27-16, 03:46 AM
Rap listeners are plebs... coming from the guy who disregards lyrics in music.
Rap is postmodern poetry. ;)
Mr Minio
02-27-16, 09:13 AM
If you can't appreciate the artistic merits of 36 chambers, you're letting your hatred of the genre blind you. There is no merit. Even I can loop a 3 sec sample over and over and talk some stuff over it. I can't rap, but whatever.
Just stop talking about rap all together and try to save yourself before you say something really stupid, like... I like scat play mor than rap. Wait, wut?!
Your only negatives are just aspects of the genre at large in that time period. This only shows how bad this genre is in general.
Rap listeners are plebs... This part is enough.
On the real though, people that often have a refined taste for music and people who don't have a lifestyle similar to, or one which lets them empathize with the plight these guys feel just will not connect with it. In other words people who know something about music and don't live in black ghetto shouldn't like this record. That's about right.
Besides, taste in music, films, food, women/men etc are all objective, deal with it. If this were true, then rap would've been objectively crap.
Rap is postmodern poetry. ;) If this is true, it should mark the decline of poetry.
Yeah, this only proves how terrible this forum is for people passionate about music.
Mr Minio
02-27-16, 06:29 PM
Hereby, I grant AboveTheClouds the ultimate prize of max chillax.
Mr Minio
03-02-16, 04:44 PM
N̶i̶g̶g̶a̶s̶ Afroamericans on the Moon: The Powers That B Disc 1
http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/news/2014/deathgrips-notm.jpg
DEATH GRIPS IS A BAND I HEARD ABOUT A LOT ESPECIALLY FROM SWAN WHO I THINK FELL IN LOVE WITH THE VOCALIST OF THIS BAND AND EVER SINCE HIS BIGGEST DREAM WAS TO HEAR "HAVE A SAD CUM BABY" WHEN IN BED IN NOT TOO AMBIGUOUS POSITION. I THOUGHT THAT HELL WHEN I GAVE THEM A LISTEN QUITE SOME TIME AGO THEY WEREN'T THAT TERRIBLE BUT THEN AGAIN CHEAP ELECTRONICS AND A CRAZY MAN SCREAMING GUILLOTIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE IS NOT SOMETHING YOU COULD CALL HIGH ART OR ANYTHING. MY FAVORITE DEATH GRIPS ALBUM SO FAR WAS FASHION WEEK BECAUSE I PREFER CUTE ASIAN GIRLS OVER MARKER-SMUDGED PENISES AND CAT-O-DEER-O-TOMBOYS. BESIDES IT DOESN'T HAVE THIS GUY HOLLERING SOME RUBBISH AND IF IT HAD SOME CUTE JAPANESE GIRL WHISPERING YAMATE I'D PROBABLY HOLD IN IN HIGH ESTEEM. ITS INSTRUMENTAL THO. I SWORE NOT TO LISTEN THEM AGAIN, BUT OF COURSE ALL THE HYPE MADE ME LISTEN TO YET ANOTHER DEATH GRIPS ALBUM, ONE I HAVEN'T YET HEARD. ITS TITLE AFROAMERICANS ON THE MOON: THE POWERS THAT B DISC 1. ITS STILL GREAT ENIGMA TO ME WHY IS IT THE POWERS THAT B AND NOT THE POWERS THAT C OR D AND WHERE THE HELL IS THE SECOND DISC AND IF THERE IS NO SECOND DISC WHY WOULD THEY CALL IT DISC 1. ITS ALMOST AS IF SCORSESE CALLED HIS FILM TAXI DRIVER 1 OR DOSTOYEVSKY CALLED HIS BOOK THE IDIOT 1. AT LEAST THE CD IS 30 MINUTES LONG. LOOKS LIKE THEY UNDERSTOOD AIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR 2 HOURS CDS FULL OF CRAP. EVEN IF THE 30 MINUTES ARE CRAP AT LEAST IT'S SHORT CRAP. SO I STARTED THE CD AND SINCE I WAS EXPECTING SOME REALLY GREAT STUFF JUST LIKE SWAN MAKES IT BE I WAS A LITTLE BIT LET DOWN BY THE FIRST SONG. THE SONG IS SO CHEAP AND THIS MAN SCREAMS LIKE THEY WOULD GIVE HIM 10 CENTS FOR EVERY SCREAM HE MAKES and 20 CENTS FOR EVERY "UP MY SLEEVE" HE SAYS. BY THE SECOND SONG I ALREADY WAS FED UP WITH THIS BS. IT'S ALMOST UNLISTENABLE. i MEAN WHO'D LISTEN TO MUSIC LIKE THIS. PROBABLY ONLY SWANS. THAT SECOND SONG HAS SOME POTENTIAL WITH THAT BEAT STARTING AT THE END. JUST ADD CUTE JAPANESE GIRL SINGING TO IT AND YOU HAVE A HIT. JUST LIKE IT IS - WORTHLESS!!! THE THIRD SONG STARTED. AT THIS POINT I COULDN'T HOLD IT ANY LONGER AND WENT TO FACEBOOK AND MESSAGED SWAN. I ASKED WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS UNLISTENABLE. HOWEVER HE HAD TO GO MINUTES BEFORE THAT AND HE DIDNT ANSWER ME. I BET HE LEFT TO CREAM OVER DEATH GRIPS IN HIS OWN PRIVATE DEATH GRIPS SHRINE. I BETTER NOT TELL YOU WHATS ON TOP OF IT. THEN SOME SONGS AND THERES THAT SONG F*CK IT OUT. THEY TRYIN TO BE BAD BOYS SWEARING AND USING PROFANITY BUT BY THAT POINT IM MUCH BADDER BOY SWEARIN AND HOLLERIN AND SMASHIN SOME PIECES OF PAPER PROBABLY WAKIN UP MY NEIGHBOURS THINKIN WHAT KIND OF UTTER SHEET I GOT INTO. THEN THERES THAT SONG VOILA AND THEY TRY TO SWAG ABOUT THEIR FRENCH BUT THIS ONE WORD IS WHERE THEIR LINGUISTICS END AND BEATS ARE INCREDIBLY REPETITIOUS AND CHEAP ALL THROUGHOUT THE CD. THE LAST SONG IS PROBABLY THE BEST BECAUSE YOU KNOW ITS LAST AND YOU DONT HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS CD ANYMORE. WHATTA LET DOWN NOW IM ANGRY ALL SWEATY AND WHEN I THINK I COULD SPEND THESE 30 MINUTES LISTENING TO J-POP OR DEATH METAL HEADBANGIN THE HELL OUTTA MYSELF IM BECOMING EVEN ANGRIER. SWAN I SWEAR AT SOME POINT IM GONNA MEET YOU AND THEN TEAR YOUR SCREENPLAY APART WHILE SCREAMIN GUILLOTINEEEEE.
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Yes... unleash your anger!!!!!
I listened to the first song on Niggas on the Moon. Well, it was okay, but I don't think I'll listen to it again, but I do want to listen to more of their music. I don't know what you mean by repetitive though Minio. I thought there was a good amount of diversity and inovation in the song I listened to anyway. The one where he made like $5 by repeating "Up my sleeve" twenty five times in the intro, even in that there were a number of transitions and changes in pretty much every aspect from the drums to the vocals to the I don't know what the rest of the music was, synth or electronic or something I guess...
Why are you even listening to rap? You've shown that you think it is sh!tty because you don't care about lyrics already, you should just move onto Bosnian Tambourine jigs or something.
I'm listening to their No Love Deep Web album, and I'm liking it quite a bit. It's got much better sound production quality than Niggas on the Moon, and it has a pretty well developed sound overall.
I like them because I haven't heard rap like this before. I don't normally like rap either though.
I think Death Grips is a rather forward-thinking group (like you said Zotis, they're very original sounding) but I don't care about the hype. I just f*cking love them. They are an incredibly distinctive group in every regard and I absolutely love the raw, abrasive, visceral quality to their music. I'm not an intensely angry person, actually quite the opposite - I'm a very content person emotionally, so they make me feel something I don't normally feel on my own.
People often turn their nose up at this kind of angry, abrasive music, but...
Sometimes you need to relax to some soothing music. But sometimes, you need to unleash your inner demons in a healthy way. Death Grips is one group that provides that kind of outlet for me. And yet, that's not a particular thing I think about when listening to Death Grips or Pig Destroyer. It's just a dark aesthetic that, for whatever reason, appeals to me. Having to deal with schizophrenia, you have a lot of intensely dark thoughts, and after a while you find comfort in art that deals with darkness. I'm not sure why. Maybe the fact knowing that there are others out there with personal demons.
Above all else? Death Grips is just fun as hell. I'm seeing them live in April with some friends and I couldn't be more excited.
Minio likes some pretty abrasive music too though.
Mr Minio
03-03-16, 07:12 PM
池玲子 - 恍惚の世界 [Reiko Ike - Koukotsu no Sekai] (1971)
http://i.imgur.com/gMLxKkb.png
This is a relisten, because I already listened to it in 2014, but I felt like I need some more moaning, so here we go. If you're unfamiliar with Reiko Ike, or Pinky Violence you can still give it a listen, but you most probably won't understand its appeal. Also, being a Japan-o-maniac and pervert helps a great deal. So, what we have here is basically some Lounge tunes with a spice of Kayōkyoku (oldschool Japanese pop) and Reiko Ike's "vocals". These are incredibly varied and besides your usual singing (she's quite good!) we have purrs (some of those sound like this relaxing purr from that hipster song 쓸쓸쓸), moans (all kinds of those, very titillating), laughing (why not!) and even some whip'n'moan sound effects on the 9th track. This stuff is very relaxing and as good as easy-listening music gets. It also has the spirit of them 70's Pinky Violence movies. You think Je t'aime by Gainsbourg and Birkin is the peak of erotic music? Think again as here comes the Cross that makes grown men weep, who chose the life of a gangster!
Cons:
- The cover does not reveal enough!
- First two beats of one of the songs sound like The Sound of Silence (but then it changes, so not a biggie)
- Not for children!
- It's only in the sound form...
Pros:
+ ... but that makes your imagination work
+ Reiko Ike
+ Moans
+ Audio porn
+ A nipple on the cover
+ Swan enjoying Reiko's personality
+ Chill as hell
rating_4
Thinking about Reiko Ike and this thread and Swan and what not I started wondering what if Reiko Ike started rapping on one of these songs. Rapping. In 1971! That would be a 5 star album then!
I abhore "easy listening" music.
Mr Minio
03-03-16, 07:31 PM
It may be easy-listening, but it will make you hard.
F*ck they should use it as a slogan when advertising this CD.
http://i.imgur.com/gMLxKkb.png
who said dat
Mr Minio
03-03-16, 07:37 PM
YOU!
It may be easy-listening, but it will make you hard.
F*ck they should use it as a slogan when advertising this CD.
Oh, well I just mean in general. I'm sure this is an exception... maybe I'd better just listen to it...
*listens to a song*
Love the stomach grumbling sounds. She must be hungry... for you know what... carrots, or hot dogs or something of that nature... :o
Hmm... well it does have a lot of easy listening elements, which I really actually can't stand. But I wouldn't say it's bad. I don't know enough about this type of music to asses the quality, but she's got a great voice.
Mr Minio
03-06-16, 07:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCkM-IJew3Q
An amazing hot rap single from Michael Rosen! With better flow than Killer Mike and better lyrics than Kendrick Lamar, this British children rapper is here to bring you the best of the best!
5
Mr Minio
03-13-16, 08:48 PM
Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered. - rating_5
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2016/media/231037/_original/1457123239/1035x1035-kendrick-lamar-untitled-unmastered-surprise-new-album-compressed1-compressed.jpg
If you're listening to the material that was rejected even to be a part of a legitemate Kendrick Lamar album, you know something's wrong.BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS ALBUM. In fact, it's the best rap album I've ever heard and one of the best albums ever. It's only 34 minutes long, so it never loses it's momentum and Anna Wise's hook on track 5 is so cool... It also features some of the deepest lyrics I've ever heard in my life, like:
"Come here, girl
Oh, you want me to touch you right there?
Oh, like a little lamb, play in your hair
Oh you want it? Oh you want it right now
Like that? I got you baby
All on you baby
Push it back on daddy
Push it back on daddy baby"
However, the cover is ugly, so I'm forced to decrease the rating to 1
Mr Minio
03-14-16, 05:49 PM
Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1490105/kanye-west-album.jpg?w=400
A masterpiece of modern music.
rating_1_5
For all the rap haters I'd like to reccomend a superb album from A Tribe Called Quest called Midnight Marauders. They tend to use a lot of groovy jazz samples and their raps are mostly socially concious from what I've heard (I've yet to dig deeper into the lyrics).
And there's also a robot guide to bring some more cohesion to the album which is pretty sweet too.
The album is really chill as well, and The Quest's music feels really distant from all the gangsta rap, for those of you who aren't really in to that.
It's just too bad that I just recently started listening to them and the other day one them passed away, R.I.P.
Too bad I can't post links since I'm new but please look it up :)
Mr Minio
05-09-16, 06:32 PM
Discovering Radiohead chronologically - Part 1: Pablo Honey
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61rBdsHgQhL.jpg
Okay, guys. Since they released a new albums like yesterday (?) I decided to go through their discography and make it all the way up to the latest album. The first one, Pablo Honey, has a surprisingly low rating on RYM - 2.86, the followup The Bends got 3.96 and the next one - OK Computer - is considered the best album of all time on RYM with a dazzling rating of 4.22. it's also the only Radiohead album I've heard previously. Given a criminally low rating of Pablo Honey I was expecting a real disaster. However, the album plays nicely with maybe not too original, but likable indie (alternative?) rock flavor.
The first song, You, is an epitome of this unoriginality. It lacks a proper kick and lavishness of the next track, Creep, whose lyrics ideally correspond to myself, I guess. After all "I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo". That rare occasion when I pay attention to the lyrics. How do you do sounds like pop punk or something. If this song was done by a Japanese band with a female vocalist I'd probably fall in love with it. The truth is, if the whole album was with a cute Japanese girl singing over it, I'd rate it much higher. I don't know if this tells anything about me, but the next song Stop Whispering has some very nice vocals. Even though not by a Japanese lady, but by a British lad, they're cool. I think if they went more into early Brian Eno style on this one, it would've been even better, but I still can hear some similarities and the track is superb. Thinking About You is some acoustic ballad, serenade, or something. It's not bad, but I can totally see some noise guitar kicking in in about half of this song to derange it a little bit. Yeah, probably been listening to too much Slap Happy Humphrey lately.... But man, wouldn't it be cool. Anyone Can Play Guitar starts interestingly, but then gets too cheesily melodic and poppy, oh, forget it. It's cool. And what's up with Jim Morrison being mentioned so many times? Ripcord seems to continue the idea of the previous track and delivers some very melodic easy-on-ears music. Vegetable even has a guitar solo, one that is heavily grounded in the song, kinda noisy, too. No guitar neck masturbation here. With Prove Yourself I'm more and more convinced the hate the album received stems from it sounding just like any other alternative rock band of its time. I don't know any other albums at this point, but my guess is on next albums Radiohead will work out their own, original style and it will be the reason for people falling in love with them and holding them in such a high regard. I can't may be the weakest song on the album, but the ending is cool. Lugree is mediocre and the last track Blow Out is good, a great way to end an album. Much better than the opening track.
Summing up, RYM users are high or stupid rating this album as low as 2.86 whereas most contemporary rap gets at least 3.50 there. A bunch of n00bs. I listened to the album twice, the second time when writing this pseudo-review and I can't say it's a bad album. It's pretty cool. I feel like giving a strong 3 to weak 3.5 for this thing.
3
Any Radiohead fans here?
matt72582
05-09-16, 07:19 PM
I think it's been at least 30 years since a great album has been out.
Mr Minio
05-09-16, 08:35 PM
Jesus, stop being such an elitist music snob.
Pablo Honey is easily their weakest IMO. It's the only one i don't like, think that may be a good sign that you'll enjoy some of their stuff, but knowing you that will probably turn out to be your favourite. Kid A is my favourite for the record. I'd go:
Kid A>Ok Computer>Hail To The Thief>In Rainbows>The Bends>The King of Limbs>Amnesiac>Pablo Honey
Haven't heard A Moon Shaped Pool yet.
Great review, Mr Minio. I don't know what it is with you and Japanese ladies but I do agree that 2.86 is too low for Pablo Honey.
I'm looking forward to the rest of these. :)
The thing is that every Radiohead album has its own style, so that's one of the reasons I'm not a fan - I'm a worshipper. :cool: Listening to the new one now. First reaction - Heavenly.
Derek Vinyard
05-09-16, 10:39 PM
I don't like Radiohead... their music don't attract me at all
I am a Radiohead fan, and I am freaking LOVING their newest album. Mark is totally right calling it heavenly, that's the perfect word for it.
And Matt is wrong. Plenty of great albums have been released in the past 30 years.
Mr Minio
05-10-16, 09:14 AM
I don't know what it is with you and Japanese ladies Here you go:
http://www.gameguyz.com/sites/default/files/pictures_images/02.12.2013/1385956986_0.gif
http://31.media.tumblr.com/dedbe42f0e5c1d3032caa0c84c85d2f3/tumblr_mqausoQbrx1rdwjilo2_400.gif
And stop asking such stupid questions!!!
I don't like Radiohead... their music don't attract me at all
No plebians allowed! :)
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/686/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif
Great review, Mr Minio My next review will be the shortest review in the history of MoFo:
Discovering Radiohead chronologically - Part 2: The Bends
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e7/7c/aa/e77caa2e896ce56dfb96d15d242dfe25.jpg
Well, it's certainly much better than their debut. rating_3_5
And Matt is wrong. Plenty of great albums have been released in the past 30 years.
In my experience people who say that haven't really listened to any recent music, they hear some generic songs on the charts and judge all modern music as bad. I don't like generalizing and i could be totally wrong, but i wouldn't be surprised at all if Matt hadn't spent any time actually looking for some recent music that he'd like.
Here you go:
http://www.gameguyz.com/sites/default/files/pictures_images/02.12.2013/1385956986_0.gif
http://31.media.tumblr.com/dedbe42f0e5c1d3032caa0c84c85d2f3/tumblr_mqausoQbrx1rdwjilo2_400.gif
And stop asking such stupid questions!!!
They're just boobs. They are not exclusive to Japanese girls. :)
Mr Minio
05-10-16, 11:15 AM
They're just boobs. They are not exclusive to Japanese girls. :) Just an example. It's the face I find the most attractive in Asian women anyway.
Mr Minio
10-02-16, 01:04 PM
I really enjoy this thread (or maybe just the GIFs on this page). I might consider resurrecting it.
Guaporense
10-03-16, 01:30 AM
I think it's been at least 30 years since a great album has been out.
I liked this 2015 album though;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt_PLj5Ne24
Mr Minio
10-03-16, 01:31 AM
Don't even let me started on that pleb matt.
Mr Minio revive this thread!
Also can I get a asian pop album rec.
Mr Minio
08-28-17, 03:43 PM
Mr Minio revive this thread! *Mr Minio casts revive spell on this thread*
*Spell backfires and hits Mr Minio!*
*No effect! Mr Minio is already alive!*
Deuce take it! Let's try again!
*Mr Minio casts revive spell on this thread*
*Spell fizzles!*
Okay, I'm trying for the last time!
*Mr Minio casts revive spell on this thread*
*Spell backfires and hits the rotten ghoul resting in a secret chamber 100 feet below Mr Minio's house!*
HELP! HELP! It's a zombie! Help me!
*After 30 minutes of running*
Okay, I think I lost him. Wow, my magic skills SUCK. At least my music taste is great!!!
Also can I get a asian pop album rec.Be more precise? What are you interested in? China? Korea? Japan? Shidaiqu (okay, that's stretching the definition of pop, but whatever) is different from modern C-pop just as Kayōkyoku is different from City pop that is different from modern J-pop, but a couple of must have-s:
周璇 [Zhou Xuan] - 百代・中国時代曲名典 (The Legendary Chinese Hits) (1992) - myQueen! Nuff said!
戸川純 [Jun Togawa] - 好き好き大好き (Suki Suki Daisuki) (1985) - my goddess! Nuff said!
Perfume - Dream Fighter (yeah, it's a single, but I admit I love some of their singles, but never loved any album completely, in its entirety) - this and everything produced by Yasutaka Nakata, basically. That means other Perfume songs, MEG, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu etc.
斉藤由貴 [Yuki Saito] - 白い炎 (1985) - in love with her ever since I watched a (now deleted) video with Romanji (and Spanish?!) lyrics to one of her biggest hits - was singing like crazy; she of course starred in this Yoyo girl TV series, but she was also in Shinji Somai's masterpiece Lost Chapter of Snow: Passion, look:
https://e.snmc.io/lk/o/u/e84f512f29406363c62d0177aa682e86/5676196.jpg
早瀬優香子 [Yukako Hayase] - 躁鬱 So・Utsu (1985)
梶芽衣子 [Meiko Kaji] - 全曲集 (2004)
椎名林檎 [Sheena Ringo] - 勝訴ストリップ (Shōso Strip) (2000)
荒井沙知 [Sachi Arai] - 赤い鳥ひとり (Akai Tori Hitori) (1977)
But there is so much more to it! For example go there (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/mrminio/r4.0) and look for weird characters that aren't Cyrillics (you can find them mostly at the beginning and at the end, but before Various Artists). If you are lucky, you have just stumbled upon music from China or Japan. Now, you're probably an unlucky guy and it's metal, or something, but keep searching and there is a fair dose of pop, too. If you're super-unlucky you probably found something like "अन्नपूर्णा देवी ၼၢင်းၼၢင်း ရြာစားစိန္ခ်စ္တီး". Well, these are great artists, too.
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*Mr Minio casts revive spell on this thread*
*Spell backfires and hits Mr Minio!*
*No effect! Mr Minio is already alive!*
Deuce take it! Let's try again!
*Mr Minio casts revive spell on this thread*
*Spell fizzles!*
Okay, I'm trying for the last time!
*Mr Minio casts revive spell on this thread*
*Spell backfires and hits the rotten ghoul resting in a secret chamber 100 feet below Mr Minio's house!*
HELP! HELP! It's a zombie! Help me!
*After 30 minutes of running*
Okay, I think I lost him. Wow, my magic skills SUCK. At least my music taste is great!!!
Be more precise? What are you interested in? China? Korea? Japan? Shidaiqu (okay, that's stretching the definition of pop, but whatever) is different from modern C-pop just as Kayōkyoku is different from City pop that is different from modern J-pop, but a couple of must have-s:
周璇 [Zhou Xuan] - 百代・中国時代曲名典 (The Legendary Chinese Hits) (1992) - myQueen! Nuff said!
戸川純 [Jun Togawa] - 好き好き大好き (Suki Suki Daisuki) (1985) - my goddess! Nuff said!
Perfume - Dream Fighter (yeah, it's a single, but I admit I love some of their singles, but never loved any album completely, in its entirety) - this and everything produced by Yasutaka Nakata, basically. That means other Perfume songs, MEG, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu etc.
斉藤由貴 [Yuki Saito] - 白い炎 (1985) - in love with her ever since I watched a (now deleted) video with Romanji (and Spanish?!) lyrics to one of her biggest hits - was singing like crazy; she of course starred in this Yoyo girl TV series, but she was also in Shinji Somai's masterpiece Lost Chapter of Snow: Passion, look:
https://e.snmc.io/lk/o/u/e84f512f29406363c62d0177aa682e86/5676196.jpg
早瀬優香子 [Yukako Hayase] - 躁鬱 So・Utsu (1985)
梶芽衣子 [Meiko Kaji] - 全曲集 (2004)
椎名林檎 [Sheena Ringo] - 勝訴ストリップ (Shōso Strip) (2000)
荒井沙知 [Sachi Arai] - 赤い鳥ひとり (Akai Tori Hitori) (1977)
But there is so much more to it! For example go there (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/mrminio/r4.0) and look for weird characters that aren't Cyrillics (you can find them mostly at the beginning and at the end, but before Various Artists). If you are lucky, you have just stumbled upon music from China or Japan. Now, you're probably an unlucky guy and it's metal, or something, but keep searching and there is a fair dose of pop, too. If you're super-unlucky you probably found something like "अन्नपूर्णा देवी ၼၢင်းၼၢင်း ရြာစားစိန္ခ်စ္တီး". Well, these are great artists, too.
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going to listen to one of these and tell you what I think. Now's it's time to go obscure movie hunting for your rec thread.
Mr Minio
08-28-17, 04:25 PM
Velvet: Please don't quote long posts in their entirety, if the original post is just above.
Velvet: Please don't quote long posts in their entirety, if the original post is just above.
sorry, still figuring things out
Mr Minio
08-28-17, 04:35 PM
Velvet No need to say sorry. Just that you understand, it decreases clarity and needlessly doubles content. But I've seen other members doing this at times, too, so you are not the only one. :P
Make sure to check these albums out!
Velvet No need to say sorry. Just that you understand, it decreases clarity and needlessly doubles content. But I've seen other members doing this at times, too, so you are not the only one. :P
Make sure to check these albums out!
Even though I said I was listening to that album i the other thread im not cause its messing up. Trying to find the other albums but I can't!!!!!!
When you wake up pm me downloads
Are you familiar with these? Mitski, Mass of the Fermenting Dregs, Chinese Football, Tatuki Seksu, and Number Girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAX4sckx5l0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7bYVaWaCxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2goYUJpq9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQ4cdCM6JU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYACnZNkvM
resopamenic
08-29-17, 06:38 AM
Noting zotis rec....
I'd couple of number girls before, not so fascinated by but seems worth to dig again
resopamenic
08-29-17, 06:45 AM
just as Kayōkyoku is different from City pop that is different from modern J-pop, but a couple of must have-s:.
.i noticed kayokyoku and city pop had blending in 80s?
Mr Minio
08-29-17, 10:44 AM
Are you familiar with these? Yeah, I stumbled across Mitski literally a couple of days ago. It's quite pleasant. Mass of the Fermenting Dregs has been my favourite for years. Didn't know Chinese Football. I've known Tatuki Seksu for years. An amazing gimmick that really works! I think it was you who reviewed/directly recommended (can't remember) School Girl Distortional Addict, or maybe I've known it before. Anyway, pretty cool.
i noticed kayokyoku and city pop had blending in 80s? Yeah, City Pop was closely connected to the blooming economy of Japan during the 70s-80s. Kayōkyoku on the other hand is older. It started in the 50s. It originated from Ryūkōka, but with jazz and Western influences.
resopamenic
08-29-17, 11:56 AM
I think both element work so well in 80s the like seiko matsuda i guess.
from 50s(or 60s?) that sukiyaki song quiet famous even get parodied in one of classic movie from my country. Im still blur overall tho eventho i knew some songs/artist of kayokyoku. Momoe yamaguchi Kinda interesting
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But city pop is my drug
What is your fave album?
i love taeko ohnuki sunshower and hiromi iwasaki wish. Not to mention the progenitor kazemachi roman
Mr Minio
08-29-17, 03:15 PM
But city pop is my drug Marry me! We will overdose City Pop and Japanese cinema on our wedding night!
What is your fave album?i love taeko ohnuki sunshower and hiromi iwasaki wish. Not to mention the progenitor kazemachi roman Ohnuki is the best out of these. A really great one that succeeded in releasing a streak of enjoyable albums. Right now I'm into Yukiko Okada!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZfryBqbWY
It's so beautiful my heart is melting. Dance with me! It's so sad to realize she commited suicide.
Here's (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/mrminio/strm_h,ss.rd/city%20pop) a list of City Pop I rated. From best to worst. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out, it leaves out many J-pop albums that also have some City pop influences, but for some reason are not categorized as City pop in RYM's filtering. Anyway, here's (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/mrminio/strm_h,ss.rd/j-pop) a list of J-pop albums and singles I rated.
BTW the Yuki Saito song I mentioned earlier was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0O13J5Hbk
The video had Romanji lyrics, though. I can't read Hiragana. GOOD THING I ACTUALLY TRANSCRIBED THE LYRICS WHEN THE VIDEO WAS STILL UP I CAN STILL SING IT WOOOOOOOOOOH
Mr Minio how can I find this music. The ones you recommended me are tough to find
Mr Minio
08-29-17, 04:19 PM
1. Get Soulseek.
2. ???
3. PROFIT!
1. Get Soulseek.
2. ???
3. PROFIT!
Got it
Yeah, I stumbled across Mitski literally a couple of days ago. It's quite pleasant. Mass of the Fermenting Dregs has been my favourite for years. Didn't know Chinese Football. I've known Tatuki Seksu for years. An amazing gimmick that really works! I think it was you who reviewed/directly recommended (can't remember) School Girl Distortional Addict, or maybe I've known it before. Anyway, pretty cool.
I posted it in the rate the song above you thread. I probably posted it in another music discussion too.
resopamenic
08-30-17, 02:17 PM
But city pop is my drug Marry me! We will overdose City Pop and Japanese cinema on our wedding night! wait, these must be our daughter already!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6UrNtd90BY
What is your fave album?i love taeko ohnuki sunshower and hiromi iwasaki wish. Not to mention the progenitor kazemachi roman Ohnuki is the best out of these. A really great one that succeeded in releasing a streak of enjoyable albums. Right now I'm into Yukiko Okada!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZfryBqbWY
It's so beautiful my heart is melting. Dance with me! It's so sad to realize she commited suicide..
Here's (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/mrminio/strm_h,ss.rd/city%20pop) a list of City Pop I rated. From best to worst. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out, it leaves out many J-pop albums that also have some City pop influences, but for some reason are not categorized as City pop in RYM's filtering. Anyway, here's (https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/mrminio/strm_h,ss.rd/j-pop) a list of J-pop albums and singles I rated.
BTW the Yuki Saito song I mentioned earlier was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0O13J5Hbk
The video had Romanji lyrics, though. I can't read Hiragana. GOOD THING I ACTUALLY TRANSCRIBED THE LYRICS WHEN THE VIDEO WAS STILL UP I CAN STILL SING IT WOOOOOOOOOOHthat okada pretty nice, sad to hear that she comitted suicide
Ohnukidefinitely the goddes of city pop. It also pretty impressed behind the scene ex happy end +tatsuro yamshita developn and prosper this style, showed especially on ohnuki's album
I still got plenty to hear from your list. I tend to love the early 70s to 80 so far which the funk and jazz beat pretty thick. The prospered 80s only feel okay-ish from what i found
I see you havent heard sugar babe - songs, it early tatsuro yamashita+taeko ohnuki and pretty good for most part. I guess theybkinda couple at the time idk
Lol you seems to love yuki saito. I dont remember about that one, but these i'd found when wandering on youtube was pretty dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leI9ZsvqZzQ
resopamenic
08-30-17, 02:33 PM
Introducing my 2nd goddess
Hiromi iwasaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb_sRsTeKRs
Mariya takeuchi, this gal end up being yamshita's bride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bNITQR4Uso
Miki matsubara, for the only song that too dope for not been mentioned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-KAY_Glmn4
Mr Minio
08-30-17, 02:46 PM
I know all of these. I know everything. I'm just listening to Hiromi Iwasaki.
wait, these must be our daughter already!Can't remember fiddling you, let alone meeting you, but hell, she grew up fast. These must be the Fukushima post-effects.
resopamenic
08-30-17, 02:56 PM
I know all of these. I know everything. I'm just listening to Hiromi Iwasaki.there shouldnvt doubt if it you mr minio
Only You!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aNbXSS8d30
wait, these must be our daughter already!Can't remember fiddling you, let alone meeting you, but hell, she grew up fast. These must be the Fukushima post-effects.there must be :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMUh0Y8EFE just finished listening to this 👍
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrPPF6gzMJ0
Captain Steel
09-02-17, 12:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Ul6cLq548
Mr Minio
09-02-17, 09:24 AM
I found a good rap song again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kppx4bzfAaE
Captain Steel
09-02-17, 02:26 PM
That reminds me of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXmShIyjJvg
Lord have mercy. It's like the cash man from Pickering, or some really bad car salesman.
Mr Minio
09-26-17, 03:55 PM
The best hip-hop album ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv9G3I1FkuI
The song starting at 22:40 has the deepest lyrics I've ever heard in a hip-hop song. It's so life-affirming!
Mr Minio
06-25-18, 01:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T-RyHoyjHo
After all those years... still the peak of music!
Take that, Bach!
resopamenic
06-25-18, 11:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T-RyHoyjHo
After all those years... still the peak of music!
Take that, Bach!meh, think again!
https://youtu.be/XgWFZ_vDfBU
Mr Minio
06-26-18, 01:22 AM
huh what is this pleb music
look how its done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWuCmjpvXmE
resopamenic
06-26-18, 06:17 AM
Hua??
https://youtu.be/nawP6aH_TMc
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 03:27 AM
Yes, I hate rap.
But there's good rap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo1uKY6BNMA
The name of this band should've been used for a death metal band with all-black members, though. Would be hilarious!
MovieMeditation
04-07-23, 05:22 AM
Yes, I hate rap.
Automatically disqualified!
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 06:21 AM
Automatically disqualified! Arguably one of the worst music genres.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ndjKUot3g
Well, Danish pornography had better soundtracks than most contemporary Hollywood movies. Shows that Europeans used to take their porn seriously.
MovieMeditation
04-07-23, 07:32 AM
Arguably one of the worst music genres.
Lol.
I always wondered, Minio, is there any subject or area where you kinda sorta fall into the norm or are all your opinions and entire existence based upon being edgy and different? :)
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 07:36 AM
I always wondered, Minio, is there any subject or area where you kinda sorta fall into the norm or are all your opinions and entire existence based upon being edgy and different? :) I think I fall into the norm pretty well in some ways. It's just that these aspects have little to do with art, and art is what I mostly post about here anyway.
GulfportDoc
https://i.imgur.com/Ti9iMCS.png
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 09:13 AM
WHY THE HELL does this porn theme sound like Denudes' White Awakening?!
https://youtu.be/YAFRdQ4lzBY
https://youtu.be/JONmmE51O40
Lol.
I always wondered, Minio, is there any subject or area where you kinda sorta fall into the norm or are all your opinions and entire existence based upon being edgy and different? :)
He likes Star Wars.
MovieMeditation
04-07-23, 10:52 AM
I think I fall into the norm pretty well in some ways. It's just that these aspects have little to do with art, and art is what I mostly post about here anyway.
Alrighty then.
It's a shame you don't like rap/hip-hop. I personally think it's one of the best genres there is. Lyrical poetry where you can be raw, direct and gritty about it or do more symbolism and metaphors to prove a point. And of course then there's the flow and how you sort of "become one" with the track in your own way. And the production is usually really playful and push boundaries in how you use instruments, samples and the likes.
Sometimes it's interesting enough to hear a pop song try to find the 12948th way to say "I love you" but hip-hop just has something about it that speaks directly to you as a human. I love that.
Of course, like any other genre, there's loads of horrible rap and shitty subgenres. Personally I love pretty much all genres. Death Metal and growling is the only one I'm struggling with a bit. But hard rock is fine.
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 12:25 PM
He likes Star Wars. Yeah, I really like Star Wars. I still prefer Starcrash, though! :D
Alrighty then. I really hate hip-hop, though, and lyrics are of little to no importance for me in songs. I really think that putting poetry and rap side-by-side is a huge offense for poetry. I don't care about becoming one with the track either. I think that vocals seen as another instrument (which definitely happens in classical music, black metal, and death metal) is really what "becoming one with the track" means.
I don't think hip-hop speaks anything human. It can talk about society, contemporary problems, about racism. But these are more like political themes. I don't see anything inherently human in that. And even if there was something human in the lyrics, I wouldn't care anyway because, as I said, I don't give a damn about lyrics in music. I mean, you can enjoy a song even if you don't understand what they're singing about. And most of the time it's even better not to understand. (And it's better not to understand all the time with Nazi Black Metal bands. ;))
All that being said, there are 27 hip-hop albums I find somewhat good. Though, good is relative here. A good hip-hop album is still much worse than a good J-Pop album, for example.
I love pop but I hate most of the contemporary Western pop music. (And almost all of K-Pop, too, for that matter). I do love J-Pop, but mostly old songs. The 80s and 90s were the absolute golden time for Japanese pop music. Unfortunately, pop was never as great again.
Growling and screaming is, in a way, an acquired taste. But I don't really think most people DISLIKE it. They're just not accustomed to the sound of it. Once you *get* harsh vocals you will start HATING clean vocals on metal records.
EDIT: I've listened to 239 hip-hop albums, by the way. Why would I want to listen to so much music if I usually hate it? The reason is simple: Having listened to a lot of hip-hop, I can truthfully say I hate it. I'm sure of that now. It's not that I haven't given the genre a fair chance or that I'm not used to it. It's no longer a novelty to me. Yeah, there are some listenable albums (roughly 10% of what I heard, though, the more hip-hop I hear, the fewer % it'll become, I guess). But no, this genre isn't good as a whole. An average J-Pop album is at least listenable. An average hip-hop album is unlistenable. As simple as that.
MovieMeditation
04-07-23, 01:11 PM
Yeah, I really like Star Wars. I still prefer Starcrash, though! :D
I really hate hip-hop, though, and lyrics are of little to no importance for me in songs. I really think that putting poetry and rap side-by-side is a huge offense for poetry. I don't care about becoming one with the track either. I think that vocals seen as another instrument (which definitely happens in classical music, black metal, and death metal) is really what "becoming one with the track" means.
I don't think hip-hop speaks anything human. It can talk about society, contemporary problems, about racism. But these are more like political themes. I don't see anything inherently human in that. And even if there was something human in the lyrics, I wouldn't care anyway because, as I said, I don't give a damn about lyrics in music. I mean, you can enjoy a song even if you don't understand what they're singing about. And most of the time it's even better not to understand. (And it's better not to understand all the time with Nazi Black Metal bands. ;))
All that being said, there are 27 hip-hop albums I find somewhat good. Though, good is relative here. A good hip-hop album is still much worse than a good J-Pop album, for example.
I love pop but I hate most of the contemporary Western pop music. (And almost all of K-Pop, too, for that matter). I do love J-Pop, but mostly old songs. The 80s and 90s were the absolute golden time for Japanese pop music. Unfortunately, pop was never as great again.
Growling and screaming is, in a way, an acquired taste. But I don't really think most people DISLIKE it. They're just not accustomed to the sound of it. Once you *get* harsh vocals you will start HATING clean vocals on metal records.
EDIT: I've listened to 239 hip-hop albums, by the way. Why would I want to listen to so much music if I usually hate it? The reason is simple: Having listened to a lot of hip-hop, I can truthfully say I hate it. I'm sure of that now. It's not that I haven't given the genre a fair chance or that I'm not used to it. It's no longer a novelty to me. Yeah, there are some listenable albums (roughly 10% of what I heard, though, the more hip-hop I hear, the fewer % it'll become, I guess). But no, this genre isn't good as a whole. An average J-Pop album is at least listenable. An average hip-hop album is unlistenable. As simple as that.
I should've expected a lenghty Minio-esque answer like this... well, after all I did kind of set it up.
A good hip-hop album is still much worse than a good J-Pop album, for example ...... An average J-Pop album is at least listenable. An average hip-hop album is unlistenable.
That's a very subjective answer. But then again it's your opinion so of course you are allowed to deliver such.
I can't say I agree with much of what you say. But at least now you have a longer statement on hip-hop you can always copy-paste if such discussion ever comes up for you again. ;)
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 01:37 PM
I should've expected a lenghty Minio-esque answer like this... well, after all I did kind of set it up. Huh? You're not happy with a detailed answer?
That's a very subjective answer. I mean, we're talking art. What else did you expect?
I can't say I agree with much of what you say. But at least now you have a longer statement on hip-hop you can always copy-paste if such discussion ever comes up for you again. ;) Yeah, "hip-hop is the music for animals" is my usual quip. It's way less civilized, but it gets the message across very well.
MovieMeditation
04-07-23, 01:56 PM
Huh? You're not happy with a detailed answer?
I would be. But in the nicest way possible I could put this: I don’t feel like I got much out of your answer.
we are talking art what did you expect?
Some better reasonings for J-pop being so great and superior to hip-hop perhaps. Just because it’s about art doesn’t mean you can just toss stuff around. Or well you can. But then a lengthy discussion would be pointless.
Yeah, "hip-hop is the music for animals" is my usual quip. It's way less civilized, but it gets the message across very well.
That is indeed narrow-minded. But again I shouldn’t have entered this discussion or thread. That’s my own doing.*
But we are very different I guess. And often it’s seems like you love to be different. And even act like you don’t because “that’s just how you are” or whatever. But saying stuff like “lyrics don’t matter” and “hip hop is for animals” and whatever else just seems so try-hard for me. I could easily say wavy stuff like that. But it’s weightless fluff. At least when worded like you do.
Sure, if music can convey everything without lyrics is amazing. Especially classical can indeed do that. But something one sentence in a song can make me think for hours. That’s equally great imo.
Anyway, I don’t think we’ll get much closer in agreeing on anything. And we don’t have to. Art is subjective and we are different people and that’s fine. :up: I retread your thread :D
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 02:14 PM
Some better reasonings for J-pop being so great and superior to hip-hop perhaps. It just sounds better. It doesn't take a trained ear to appreciate J-Pop, LOL. It's POPULAR music by its very name.
Just because it’s about art doesn’t mean you can just toss stuff around. Or well you can. But then a lengthy discussion would be pointless. Hmm, how would you like to discuss hip-hop, then? Or any other genre for that matter?
That is indeed narrow-minded. But again I shouldn’t have entered this discussion or thread. That’s my own doing.* It's just a shortcut to avoid a lengthy discussion. Same as "Onkyo is the music for posers". If you want to have a lengthy discussion, go ahead. I'm not entirely sure what for, then. I've heard hundreds of hip-hop albums, and if that didn't convince me, I don't think anything you may say will. And I don't mean that as an indicator that what you would say is meaningless or of no value. Just that hip-hop is one of the few music genres I will NEVER love.
But we are very different I guess. And often it’s seems like you love to be different. I just love what I love. It's not really my fault that people have terrible tastes on average. I listened to more than most. I dug deeper than most. So it's only natural my favorites would be more obscure and/or esoteric than most's.
But saying stuff like “lyrics don’t matter” and “hip hop is for animals” and whatever else just seems so try-hard for me. I could easily say wavy stuff like that. But it’s weightless fluff. At least when worded like you do. With me, you kinda get inside jokes, hyperboles, and my snide attitude along with everything else. It's kind of a defense mechanism so that people won't get me and everything I have to offer right away. They have to work for that. I'm usually less like that when speaking to somebody in private. But publicly, I can't afford to give away too much. It's what Mr Minio is. He's mean and arrogant. But if you actually spend enough time to try and understand him, you can only profit from this. This thread's whole point is to act superciliously for the fun of it.
Sure, if music can convey everything without lyrics is amazing. Especially classical can indeed do that. But something one sentence in a song can make me think for hours. That’s equally great imo. I could try starting a discussion by saying that hip-hop beats are simplistic and usually not very good. You'd probably respond by giving me examples against what I said. I'd maybe say that I actually think it's not always true but it's true often enough to make the genre bad on average. There are some hip-hop albums I think are somewhat fine. Kno's Death is Silent is my favorite hip-hop album of all time. CunninLynguists, Sadistik, Killer Mike, Moe and ghosts, Slauson Malone, Nujabes, J Dilla, and Niggaz of Destruction are all OK with me. Or at least at least one of their album is. But discussing hip-hop as a whole... these discussions usually go nowhere.
MovieMeditation
04-07-23, 02:31 PM
But publicly, I can't afford to give away too much. It's what Mr Minio is. He's mean and arrogant. But if you actually spend enough time to try and understand him, you can only profit from this. This thread's whole point is to act superciliously for the fun of it.
I think this hits it pretty well, for better and for worse.
A character, a cover-up, an extension, an internet persona or whatever you wanna call it. And that’s up to you being who or what you want online. Nobody forces you to be yourself of course.*But I would like to meet the real Minio and not this arrogant artsy being who you are never too sure of… Is it a joke. Is it not. Who knows. Is he stupid. Is he not. We will never know… but isn’t that also kind of sad for yourself to have to be a persona and in that way also alienate people who might actually like you and what you have to say?
Because I can’t take “Mr Minio” serious in the long run. Whoever he is. At a glance I feel like he has some valid points, but looking closer it just ends in elevated one-liners and single-minded paragraphs with a slight edge. And all that effort you seem to put into your long replies and writings just gets lost on me. And many others I’m sure. So I hope you get something out of it.
Because everything, as you have referenced, it’s served with this slight arrogance or superiority and often with a starting point in something that others may love (a music genre, a specific movie or whatever). So people are gonna be annoyed or provoked. And if that’s your goal you are very successful. But you lose a lot of people who might actually like the real you.
Mr Minio is the gift and the curse, I suppose.
Mr Minio
04-07-23, 06:26 PM
But I would like to meet the real Minio and not this arrogant artsy being who you are never too sure of… I'm pretty boring IRL. Overly serious, responsible, stiff. I always take things seriously, too. At least the things I perceive as important. Art is one of them. But there are many other things than just art. I don't like to be stiff on the Internet. I'd rather be frolicking. It's also a matter of language. I'm a different person when I speak English.
Is it a joke. Is it not. Who knows. Is he stupid. Is he not. We will never know… Woah, there. I'm not stupid. I just watched a slapstick comedy based on anime with people comically beating each other up, fart jokes, and a guy getting his arms and legs stretched to like 20 feet. Obviously, this is the kind of cinema that's harder to get than Tarkovsky. Any serious egghead cinephile would easily scorn it. But I love it. I think this clearly shows I'm not stupid. It takes an incredible amount of intelligence to appreciate this kind of cinema. Any half-wit can look up RYM's elitist canon, half-watch La Region Centrale or Antigona, and copy Antigona's ratings 1:1 to pretend to be a serious, SERIOUS cinephile of utmost film knowledge. No, seriously, people are doing that. But then, they have NOTHING to say about these movies. Now, I may have nothing to say about Straubs (except for the parachuters maxim), but at least I'm sincere. Look, love, purity, and sincerity are the most important things in life. Never forget about it!
but isn’t that also kind of sad for yourself to have to be a persona and in that way also alienate people who might actually like you and what you have to say? Wait, so people don't actually like me or what I'm saying? I guess it's their loss. Most valuable people I ever met were challenging to know in one way or another. I always had to somehow adjust my mind to *get* them. Overlook some of their downsides. If you don't have any visible downsides, you have to come up with them. Or maybe just take them out from the darkest corners of your psyche. So is Mr Minio a joke or not? Is Mr Minio rude or not? Is Mr Minio really like that? Who is Mr Minio? It's better nobody's sure. Is Mr Minio an enigma? YES. And I enjoy people being bewildered and confused and asking themselves these questions. But I think it's best when they deduce that Mr Minio is just a person like them. And he's perfectible just like them.
Because I can’t take “Mr Minio” serious in the long run. Whoever he is. At a glance I feel like he has some valid points, but looking closer it just ends in elevated one-liners and single-minded paragraphs with a slight edge. I don't know, bro. I think it's very clear when I'm 100% sincere. The rest might be confusing, and people might not know. But when I'm really sincere, I am really sincere, and anybody who read more than 100 of my posts can tell.
And all that effort you seem to put into your long replies and writings just gets lost on me. And many others I’m sure. So I hope you get something out of it. Again, depends on which replies you're talking about. If EVERYTHING I ever wrote is lost on you, then you're clearly not paying attention. But I sometimes write in riddles that may require lots of cinematic knowledge, for example.
Do you know that game from Last Year at Marienbad? That game is so ingenious that you NEVER lose when you play it. I never lose either. Do you know these enigmatic Rivette movies where a character spends hours trying to solve a mystery and ends up with nothing? Who do these characters remind you of? Me or you?
Because everything, as you have referenced, it’s served with this slight arrogance or superiority and often with a starting point in something that others may love (a music genre, a specific movie or whatever). Yes, I'm pretty arrogant. I think arrogance goes hand-in-hand with the lack of knowledge. Do you think I may be masking my lack of knowledge using my arrogance? Or is it more likely that I'm unwilling to share the knowledge and therefore I use arrogance to mask it? Look, life is finite. If I don't share my knowledge, my thoughts, and loves, I'll die without anybody knowing about them. So do you think I should, after all, share my knowledge? Here? Somewhere else?
So people are gonna be annoyed or provoked. And if that’s your goal you are very successful. But you lose a lot of people who might actually like the real you. I think it's rather me choosing people than other people choosing me. But it's a fair point regardless. I bet you haven't seen It's a Flickering Life, so I'm going to reference it. You know what's life about? Life's about choosing what we will regret later. No matter what your choice is, you will regret the other thing you didn't choose. It's not always true. But it's true most of the time. So, it makes sense to choose the better option, right? But sometimes you don't know which option is better. So, you kind of have to guess, risking that you're also choosing the greater regret. But no matter what your choice is, you have to live your life PROUDLY with that choice. And you can't save everyone, you can't help everyone, you can't give yourself fully to everyone. Think about it. ;)
Wyldesyde19
04-08-23, 06:58 PM
I don’t think Minio is a bad person or however you want to frame him. He’s passionate about films, and sometimes he should temper his responses and reactions, but I do think he means well. Most of the time.
I don’t take many of his ramblings about plebes seriously, especially when you recognize them for what they are often enough. He isn’t even an enigma to me. I’ve seen his type before. When you recognize his isn’t anything different from any number of posters you’ve seen on the net (or even in real life),other than a penchant for somewhat (purposely) pretentious postings, you kind of accept him for what he is.
TL,DR: Minio is a decent plebe who desperately wants to be more and so challenges himself, and others, to be more.
Mr Minio
04-08-23, 07:06 PM
Minio is a decent plebe https://i.imgur.com/7zlcABW.png
MovieMeditation
04-08-23, 07:44 PM
I don’t think Minio is a bad person or however you want to frame him. He’s passionate about films, and sometimes he should temper his responses and reactions, but I do think he means well. Most of the time.
I don’t take many of his ramblings about plebes seriously, especially when you recognize them for what they are often enough. He isn’t even an enigma to me. I’ve seen his type before. When you recognize his isn’t anything different from any number of posters you’ve seen on the net (or even in real life),other than a penchant for somewhat (purposely) pretentious postings, you kind of accept him for what he is.
TL,DR: Minio is a decent plebe who desperately wants to be more and so challenges himself, and others, to be more.
I would agree.
GulfportDoc
04-08-23, 08:33 PM
I think I fall into the norm pretty well in some ways. It's just that these aspects have little to do with art, and art is what I mostly post about here anyway.
@GulfportDoc (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=96919)
https://i.imgur.com/Ti9iMCS.png
Ha! Great picture featuring the Trout Mask Replica album cover with Captain Beefheart and The Magic Band from 1969!...:cool:
ScarletLion
04-09-23, 08:15 AM
Proper music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpEILvXQaZM
ScarletLion
04-09-23, 08:18 AM
Proper music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNSfP3jzcI
ScarletLion
04-09-23, 08:22 AM
Proper music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdiY6kijYHE
ScarletLion
04-09-23, 08:22 AM
Proper music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRa3-3UM0o
ScarletLion
04-09-23, 08:23 AM
Proper music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdmgOpvi7bc
Mr Minio
04-09-23, 09:20 AM
Bro, the "song you're listening to now" thread is this way ->
Anyway, the stuff you posted is generic post-rock. Listenable but nothing special. This basically describes the whole genre. I mean, you have Godspeed You Black Emperor!, what else do you need?
ScarletLion
04-09-23, 12:16 PM
generic post-rock.
Yup. Love it.
Mr Minio
04-10-23, 06:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LisdbtG4WeQ
Peak/seminal noise.
Mr Minio
02-29-24, 03:39 PM
If you don't have a RYM account and a group of trustworthy people with good taste to follow, this site is probably your best option:
https://radiooooo.com/
beelzebubble
02-29-24, 03:52 PM
If you don't have a RYM account and a group of trustworthy people with good taste to follow, this site is probably your best option:
https://radiooooo.com/
I love this!!!!
Mr Minio
05-23-24, 03:20 PM
Listening to a hip-hop single after a perennial, sublime, divine, saintly masterpiece of spiritual purity by Bach is the equivalent of watching a McG after a masterwork by Tarkovsky.
Rap is really the most degenerate genre.
Listening to a hip-hop single after a perennial, sublime, divine, saintly masterpiece of spiritual purity by Bach is the equivalent of watching a McG after a masterwork by Tarkovsky.
Rap is really the most degenerate genre.
I strongly disliked rap for the longest time, but in recent years I finally found some I do like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlIExbHPWtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vle2f6RbEUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-u8CfsNbY
John McClane
06-24-24, 04:59 PM
says no plebs and then immediately posts plebeian music.
yup, checks out
Mr Minio
06-24-24, 06:03 PM
I strongly disliked rap for the longest time, but in recent years I finally found some I do like. This is bad.
Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tz6mKOWL0E
says no plebs and then immediately posts plebeian music.
yup, checks out That's the joke with the first few posts in this thread.
Of course, I won't post actual great music anymore. Why should I? You need to work harder for it, I won't spoonfeed you.
Try this:
That's pretty good. I'm a sucker for Japanese music too.
Here's some for you. What else you got?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoox9fpmDP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL8nXqCAj3w
You like Shoegaze, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfUa4BMNNNY
FilmBuff
06-24-24, 06:53 PM
So.... are you both an audiophile and a cinephile...?
https://i.postimg.cc/MGvYrtrn/IMG-1473.jpg
Mr Minio
06-25-24, 02:20 AM
That's pretty good. I'm a sucker for Japanese music too.
Here's some for you. Good stuff.
So.... are you both an audiophile and a cinephile...?
Yeah, normal people need to choose between these, but thanks to my superior intell... lots of free time I can be both effortlessly.
Surely you're already familiar with Panchiko, right Minio? If not you definitely gotta check them out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlX7NwTq9Zo
Mr Minio
06-26-24, 11:01 AM
Yes i am.
Mr Minio
01-03-25, 04:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znu9TwKK0Ic
Objective peak of music.
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