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MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 04:28 PM
APPRECIATE THE WORKS OF A MOFO!

Hey everybody and welcome... :)

I want to encourage all MoFos to show love and appreciation for each others hard work! This is the place you can visit, when you have something interesting for your fellow MoFos to see. Come and join a group of people who are committed to commenting on people's hard work, and in return, can get help you as well. So post in here, help the community and spread the love!

http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/531679/hubfs/images/support_543x223.jpg?t=1437148517043&width=543&height=223

As you may know, I fight this forum for the benefit of common commenting. I personally think I work hard to post interesting stuff for you all, but I’m definitely not the only one or even the hardest working member on here. I know that every single member who works hard at something, loves when members show their appreciation for it. Whether they have something that excites, enlightens, provoke or even just something they personally find interesting, it would be great to have a place where people had the same understanding as you; a joined place where people were on the same basis and wanted to give feedback to another member and get feedback in return. This my friends, is that place…

In the vein of THE MOFO CHILL CLUB, you can become a member of a group called the MoFo’s Talents Support Association, where you agree to be more active about commenting on other works by fellow MoFos, and in return, you can get feedback from the rest of the association! You don’t have to write several paragraphs when you respond. It can be something like 2-3 sentences or 2-3 paragraphs. It really doesn’t matter, because if you appreciate when people read and comment on what you do, every single comment counts! :up:

HOW IT WORKS
If you have something you wish for other MoFos to see, post a link to your post in this thread.
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It doesn’t matter if it is a review, an essay or just a general write-up that you would like an opinion/discussion on – whether small or large.
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o For example, I see Captain Spaulding writes several interesting things in his long write-ups, which means he can utilize this thread to make certain that it has been seen, so that he can perhaps get a comment or two on it or just have them read something interesting.
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o I also see Iroquois as one of the hardest working reviewers on here and that is someone who could definitely receive more attention towards those countless reviews. Personally, I don’t follow Iroquois’ work as much as I should, but that’s only because I never see Iro in my threads. That little bastard (jk). :p
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When you respond to whatever the person wants you to respond to, please rep/comment in his/her own thread or the thread where the post was made. You can of course say thanks in this thread for showing you the post, but the actual comments and discussion should be posted in direct response to the actual post.


MEMBERS OF THE GROUP

- MovieMeditation
MovieMeditation's Diary Reviews (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=38448) // MovieMeditation's Cinema Reviews (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=37926)

- Cole416
Cole's Film Reviews (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=40842&highlight=cole%27s+reviews)

- False Writer
False Reviews from a False Writer (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41255&highlight=false+writer)

- Gatsby
Gatsby's New and Improved Flick Critique (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41036)

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/judges-score-cards_pan_201341.jpg

Post in here, when you have made something you would love for people to join in on. It serves as a reminder to bring discussion around movies/anything and other people's hard work! So go out there and support your fellow MoFo! :up:

I don't know if this is a good idea or not, but I hope to see some love for it. :)

Cole416
07-23-15, 04:31 PM
I'm in.

This > Chill Club tbh.

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 04:34 PM
I'm in.

This > Chill Club tbh.
Haha, I don't wanna start a heated fight here. :p

I simply want to encourage people to comment some more, show love for other's hard work and take just a little time to leave a comment when someone went out their way with something... I don't demand anything, but I encourage and remind people of all the talented MoFos we have on this forum and the brilliant stuff they post!

False Writer
07-23-15, 04:41 PM
Yeah sure, I have no problem supporting other members' work. I haven't done a ton of lists or reviews or anything recently but I know that when I do I love getting feedback on it, but if I want feedback it's only fair that I give feedback in return. Sort of like a "treat people the way you want to be treated" type of deal.

Anyways, sign me up! :)

Swan
07-23-15, 04:52 PM
This > Chill Club tbh.

Sometimes I wish you were eaten by gophers.

Cole416
07-23-15, 04:54 PM
Sometimes I wish you were eaten by gophers.
How about zombeavers?

Gatsby
07-23-15, 08:57 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41036

I'm in. Read the above asap if you haven't already. :D

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:00 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41036

I'm in. Read the above asap if you haven't already. :D
I said links to posts, not entire threads you sly devil you... :rolleyes::p

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:05 PM
This is stupid. If I had made this thread, nobody would be signing up. It's hard to understand what it's even about or why it needs to exist.

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:12 PM
This is stupid. If I had made this thread, nobody would be signing up. It's hard to understand what it's even about or why it needs to exist.
That's because you don't fit either end of this thing...

You don't post reviews or write-ups and you don't really comment on people's reviews or write-ups. You're the one lost, my friend.

That said, you could link to your threads and use this thread as a tool to get people to see and discuss in your threads. But PLEASE don't post links to every 1,000 threads you make. Thanks. :shifty:

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:13 PM
That's because you don't fit either end of this thing...

You don't post reviews or write-ups and you don't really comment on people's reviews or write-ups. You're the one lost, my friend.

That said, you could link to your threads and use this thread as a tool to get people to see and discuss in your threads. But PLEASE don't post links to every 1,000 threads you make. Thanks. :shifty:

I have you know I have a full review thread, I just don't write reviews much anymore. I still don't really see the need to "advertise" your posts in another thread. I especially don't understand why it needs to be a club you join.

mark f
07-23-15, 09:14 PM
Well, he's got at least 235 reviews.

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:16 PM
I have you know I have a full review thread, I just don't write reviews much anymore. I still don't really see the need to "advertise" your posts in another thread. I especially don't understand why it needs to be a club you join.
I don't even wanna discuss with a person who creates thousands of useless threads...

Well, he's got at least 235 reviews.
I forgot he wrote reviews. Guess that's why he's so butthurt then... Nobody cares.

But this thread, SC, is for people who do care. For people who appreciate a good write-up and for those who loves such things themselves and wanna create more discussion. I'm just encouraging people, not advertising anything. It's mutual love.

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:17 PM
I don't even wanna discuss with a person who creates thousands of useless threads...

Why not? You're just starting out. I could give you some tips.

JayDee
07-23-15, 09:22 PM
So this is basically a thread for whoring yourself out for rep? :confused:

I approve!!! :p

Mr Minio
07-23-15, 09:23 PM
I just made myself a sandwich.

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:27 PM
So this is basically a thread for whoring yourself out for rep? :confused:

I approve!!! :p
More comments than rep, but yeah, it's to have your work be recognized and appreciate by people who have a passion for such things as well.

Just imagine, JayDee, you can actually come in here and shout at people to go read your review, while linking to it and all... Crazy right? :D

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:31 PM
First of all, this thread needs a different title -- at first, I thought this was something akin to "The MoFo Support Group Part 2." The title is also too long and not memorable.

I would have called it... maybe something like Appreciate ME!

Also, hasn't a thread like this been attempted before?

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:34 PM
First of all, this thread needs a different title -- at first, I thought this was something akin to "The MoFo Support Group Part 2." The title is also too long and not memorable.

I would have called it... maybe something like Appreciate ME!

Also, hasn't a thread like this been attempted before?
I don't know if it has been done before... I haven't been here 13 years. Must likely it has, since it seems like something obvious.

I'm open for ideas for a title change, but I found it hard to come up with one.

Citizen Rules
07-23-15, 09:38 PM
...I'm open for ideas for a title change, but I found it hard to come up with one. I like your idea:) But to be honest when I see a list of names of Members it makes me feel like I'm not welcomed, it seems inclusive. You said you're open to suggestions....ditch the list of members, just say All MoFos Welcomed!

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:39 PM
It would be funny if it was a pay club. $9.99 a month to post in here and give your posts extra attention.

Gatsby
07-23-15, 09:41 PM
It would be funny if it was a pay club. $9.99 a month to post in here and give your posts extra attention.
I think there are members who already do that.

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:44 PM
I like your idea:) But to be honest when I see a list of names of Members it makes me feel like I'm not welcomed, it seems inclusive. You said you're open to suggestions....ditch the list of members, just say All MoFos Welcomed!
I know what you mean, but the problem is it may end up as "just another thread", where people aren't really committed. If it isn't a joined society where consisting of a group of people who are all on the same side, it will just end up as an unnecessary thread. If people don't actually "join" this, this thread doesn't even have to exist. When I update one of my threads it will be the same as posting a link in here - only that would be double work for no reason.

I just feel like if people join this, they are more committed. Or else it's just too "loose" and it would be the same as linking to my review in the rate the last movie you saw thread. It wouldn't mean anything to anybody.

But you're welcome to join CR. :D

foster
07-23-15, 09:46 PM
I know what you mean, but the problem is it may end up as "just another thread", where people aren't really committed. If it isn't a joined society where consisting of a group of people who are all on the same side, it will just end up as an unnecessary thread. If people don't actually "join" this, this thread doesn't even have to exist. When I update one of my threads it will be the same as posting a link in here - only that would be double work for no reason.

I just feel like if people join this, they are more committed. Or else it's just too "loose" and it would be the same as linking to my review in the rate the last movie you saw thread. It wouldn't mean anything to anybody.

But you're welcome to join CR. :D

Didn't work out very well for the MoFo watch list.

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:47 PM
Why was this moved to the "Movie Reviews" subforum? This thread isn't just for movie reviews, I assume.

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:48 PM
Why was this moved to the "Movie Reviews" subforum? This thread isn't just for movie reviews, I assume.
Had no idea where to put it.

And no, it's for all write-up stuff/discussion stuff.

Gatsby
07-23-15, 09:49 PM
Had no idea where to put it.
Next time when you make a thread like this, put it on Misc Chat or MoFo Site Stuff. :)

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 09:52 PM
Didn't work out very well for the MoFo watch list.
Yeah, well, I don't know.

This may just be a pathetic attempt at trying to get people to discuss and show love for each other when they work hard at something, or just want a quick opinion on something...

It was just supposed to be this "I have this thing, wanna look at it" and then there would be people who are actually committed to doing so.

I just wish the forum was more active with commenting and discussing when someone puts effort into something. That is not at all only meant at me, but I'm sure many out there feels the same. I wanna encourage mofos to appreciate each other, that's all. If it doesn't work, too bad. I just don't know what to try or do anymore...

Sexy Celebrity
07-23-15, 09:52 PM
What happened with that whole MoFo Watch List? Somebody give the correct posts some attention here so I can see it.

foster
07-23-15, 10:02 PM
What happened with that whole MoFo Watch List? Somebody give the correct posts some attention here so I can see it.

Too bad the search function on this site doesn't work better, "mofo watch list", titles only, comes up with a bunch of unrelated threads.

I mean there is this one where I was the only one to watch and comment
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41915

This one that had 0 comments and I couldn't get ahold of the film
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41916

My recommendation where movie gal was the only one that watched it
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=41917

Seemed like I was the only person participating.
After the 2nd week it became obvious no one was watching and the threads stopped.

foster
07-23-15, 10:04 PM
I just wish the forum was more active with commenting and discussing when someone puts effort into something. That is not at all only meant at me, but I'm sure many out there feels the same.

I've only done one review on this site.. and apparently it didn't make it to the reviews page because the film was from 2010.

Something about how the reviews page only shows new movies and old movies but not ones from a few years ago .

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 10:06 PM
I've only done one review on this site.. and apparently it didn't make it to the reviews page because the film was from 2010.

Something about how the reviews page only shows new movies and old movies but not ones from a few years ago .
Exactly. And if it got overlooked like that, you could come post it here, where you knew people would want to see/comment on your work.

But I don't know... I definitely want to change the title, but I don't know what to.

Citizen Rules
07-23-15, 10:10 PM
MovieMedation you're a good guy for trying this thread. I will pop in from time to time and see if I can help support it. I haven't read all the post so I'm not quite sure what it's all about.


I just wish the forum was more active with commenting and discussing when someone puts effort into something. I've thought that too. For me I often miss threads. Then if I do see an interesting one it's basically over and so I don't post.....So your idea might help out.

foster
07-23-15, 10:11 PM
Sure Sure


Feel free to read the only review I've ever done
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=40949

MovieMeditation
07-23-15, 10:21 PM
Sure Sure


Feel free to read the only review I've ever done
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=40949
Yay, the thread has finally shown its purpose!

It's not completely meaningless anymore! If it ends with your first review and my only comment, being the first and only write-up to ever have a purpose in this thread, so be it! :D

False Writer
07-24-15, 02:33 AM
Sure Sure


Feel free to read the only review I've ever done
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=40949

YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER!!! :p

jrs
07-24-15, 03:52 AM
My main threads that I paid most attention to during my 14 year tenor:

Jrs' Sequel Buzz Thread (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=20199) (2009-2010, April of 2015)

Jrs' Sequel Mania Redux (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=36076) (A week in June 2014)

Jrs' Official MoFo DVD Thread (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=9795&page=3) - which lasted 2 months in 2005 (lol) and I probably most likely will resurrect as a Blu-Ray/DVD release thread as soon I can.

I created others but they weren't as time consuming as these three. I ended these due to being lazy. :p

I started a lot of movie threads and contributed a hefty amount of info on upcoming films over the years. Too many links to post.

Also I wrote three (yes a big three lol) reviews so far:

Jurassic World (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/1335935-jurassic-world.html)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/1303751-avengers-age-of-ultron.html)
Ant-Man (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/1357573-ant-man.html)

christine
07-24-15, 06:19 AM
It's a fair point that reviews should get more love. I know if I do one it takes ages to sort my thoughts out and mine aren't anything like as detailled or well set out as many others, so they must take a lot of time and effort.
It's all about time constraints tho isn't it? What with jobs/work/life/family/education getting in the way, most of us don't have the time to read everyone's reviews so we pick and choose between people we think have the same taste. or have had interesting reviews in the past, or films we've seen ourselves so want to compare, or simply those who shout the loudest :p

I notice there are people who spread their appreciation around, which is really nice. We should all try and do that, and also specially to newcomers :)

christine
07-24-15, 06:21 AM
I've only done one review on this site.. and apparently it didn't make it to the reviews page because the film was from 2010.

Something about how the reviews page only shows new movies and old movies but not ones from a few years ago .

Did you tick the box under your review when you'd wrote it ? The one that says 'suggest this post for inclusion in the reviews area'?

Captain Spaulding
07-24-15, 06:45 AM
So in other words, this is the Let's All Aspire to Be Like Captain Spaulding Thread?

jrs
07-24-15, 06:52 AM
It's a fair point that reviews should get more love.

Then where is my love? lol ....In all seriousness though, whatever a person faithfully (and meaningfully) contributes to this site should get attention.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 07:05 AM
It's a fair point that reviews should get more love.

Then where is my love? lol ....In all seriousness though, whatever a person faithfully (and meaningfully) contributes to this site should get attention.
We'll show you love if you join. :p

jrs
07-24-15, 07:24 AM
We'll show you love if you join. :p

If you mean the thread I joined three hours ago. Although, as a member of the site in general that suffices. :p

Cole416
07-24-15, 09:11 AM
So in other words, this is the Let's All Aspire to Be Like Captain Spaulding Thread?
Couldn't have made a worse title tbh :p

Captain Spaulding
07-24-15, 09:25 AM
Couldn't have made a worse title tbh :p

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s451/captainspaulding87/spaulding%20gif%2010_zpsfakkdynl.gif

Cole416
07-24-15, 09:31 AM
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s451/captainspaulding87/spaulding%20gif%2010_zpsfakkdynl.gif

That convinced me, "Let's All Aspire to Be Like Captain Spaulding Thread" it is.

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 09:32 AM
Let's NOT Aspire to Be Like Captain Spaulding.

That sounds better.

Hit Girl
07-24-15, 09:34 AM
Let's NOT Aspire to Be Like Captain Spaulding.

That sounds better.

I dunno, I think it would be a nice change for me.

http://steelcityretro.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/amber3.jpeg

ursaguy
07-24-15, 10:54 AM
Did you tick the box under your review when you'd wrote it ? The one that says 'suggest this post for inclusion in the reviews area'?

Yes, I can see the review on his profile. I agree that it's a design flaw that the actual front review page shows films from 2009 and earlier and the most recent month and nothing in between.

Yoda
07-24-15, 11:48 AM
Well, flaw implies a superior alternative. We have conflicting, mutually exclusive problems:

1) We want a good mix of reviews easily visible (not just all the new releases)..
2) We want the list to turnover on a regular basis (we don't want the same reviews sitting there for weeks).

The very act of featuring something means excluding something else--if everything were featured, nothing would stand out. So something's going to get a bit more attention than other things.

The best balance we've found is to display all the most recent reviews, with a special section for slightly older films. I'm definitely open to alternatives, though I've become fairly convinced that anything that solves this problem (or at least comes closer to solving it) will probably involve a more thorough rebuild than just tweaking the settings here and there.

Cole416
07-24-15, 11:54 AM
Well, flaw implies a superior alternative. We have conflicting, mutually exclusive problems:

1) We want a good mix of reviews easily visible (not just all the new releases)..
2) We want the list to turnover on a regular basis (we don't want the same reviews sitting there for weeks).

The very act of featuring something means excluding something else--if everything were featured, nothing would stand out. So something's going to get a bit more attention than other things.

The best balance we've found is to display all the most recent reviews, with a special section for slightly older films. I'm definitely open to alternatives, though I've become fairly convinced that anything that solves this problem (or at least comes closer to solving it) will probably involve a more thorough rebuild than just tweaking the settings here and there.
Do you think you could add a way to be able to rep reviews while looking at it through the review section?

Yoda
07-24-15, 12:04 PM
Hmmm, that's interesting. I'll add that to the list. I need to finish up some (fairly significant) features first, but that's a decent idea.

Don't want this thread to get sidetracked, though. If we continue talking about it it should be in a new thread about tweaks to the reviews page, I think.

foster
07-24-15, 12:58 PM
How about a special case for when I write a review. That should do the trick :)

jrs
07-24-15, 02:36 PM
So basically posting in this thread and supposedly asking for appreciation for what I have to offer to this forum, which everyone should get in the first place, doesn't automatically add you to this 'group'?

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 03:12 PM
So basically posting in this thread and supposedly asking for appreciation for what I have to offer to this forum, which everyone should get in the first place, doesn't automatically add you to this 'group'?
If you want to be added to the group just say so and I'll add your name. :)

Obviously everybody should be appreciated, but since I think it's an area that could be improved upon, and people sometimes forget to appreciate each other, I created this thread in the hope of you would be more committed if you signed up and agreed to support other mofo's hard work, while in return, you would get the same treatment. Hopefully it'll generate more replies and discussions... So yeah, wanna be a member? :cool:

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 06:38 PM
What benefits do you get by having your name added? I could still post links to my posts here even if my name isn't added.

Cole416
07-24-15, 06:43 PM
What benefits do you get by having your name added? I could still post links to my posts here even if my name isn't added.
The satisfaction of knowing you're benefiting to a good cause. The lack of reps is a true tragedy in this forum and I think we need to start a rep-fund to help everyone in need.

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 06:44 PM
I'm starting to believe it's time to get rid of positive rep just like how we got rid of negative rep!

Cobpyth
07-24-15, 06:46 PM
I'm not trying to criticize this thread or its purpose, but personally I don't get how "appreciation" can be satisfying if you have to ask for it to get it.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 06:56 PM
What benefits do you get by having your name added? I could still post links to my posts here even if my name isn't added.
Listen, SC, just get out of the thread if you don't like what you see... I'm tired of you always complain and pointing out stuff you don't like... But here is the deal, written out for your simple mind:

The benefit is, that it is mutual understandings and mutual respect. If you become a member, and post something in here, the other members would love to read and comment on what you post, because that's the deal.

You become a member, agree to rep/comment a little here and there on the other member's stuff, and in return, they would gladly do the same to you.

So, if you are not a member, obviously the members in the group wouldn't be as much committed to rep/comment your stuff, when you aren't doing the same for them. That said though, I'd wish we could just do as you say and post something and suddenly BAM! a thousand comments, reps and a great discussion. But that rarely happens. So therefore = this thread.

So this thread is simply an attempt to try and create more discussion, or simply have more people appreciate what other mofos do; whether a review, write-up, essay, question they want to have answered... whatever it might be.

So when you post something, you are more guaranteed of having people read it, because you would do the same for them. It's not a "let's hope someone sees this and wants to look at it" scenario anymore. In here, people will (hopefully) be just a little more committed to comment a little more, read a little more, appreciate a little more. If you think that is stupid, fine, then leave...

foster
07-24-15, 06:58 PM
I'm not trying to criticize this thread or its purpose, but personally I don't get how "appreciation" can be satisfying if you have to ask for it to get it.

Well it was nice to finally get a comment on my review

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 07:00 PM
I'm not trying to criticize this thread or its purpose, but personally I don't get how "appreciation" can be satisfying if you have to ask for it to get it.
You are not really asking for it, really.

People in here agrees to read it, to check it out. They have accepted themselves into this thread, therefore I wouldn't exactly say it's "asking for it". The group consists of people who are just as much willing to comment/rep/read something you have done, as they are to do something themselves, and have that read by others. It's a mutual relationship... Comment on something made by others, or get a comment on something made by you.

I don't know what else to do, all I want is create more discussion... Right now though, the discussion seems to lie with this thread and its purpose and how it's a dumb idea... I'd wish it was with all the great work out there on the forum instead...

Cole416
07-24-15, 07:01 PM
And joining here means you'd rep more people and comment more. Usually the people that comment on more peoples' threads get the most reps/replies.

jrs
07-24-15, 07:29 PM
I'm not trying to criticize this thread or its purpose, but personally I don't get how "appreciation" can be satisfying if you have to ask for it to get it.

This

Derek Vinyard
07-24-15, 07:32 PM
This thread = thread of the year without a doubt.

too many hilarious post everywhere hahahah

Cobpyth
07-24-15, 07:35 PM
You are not really asking for it, really.

People in here agrees to read it, to check it out. They have accepted themselves into this thread, therefore I wouldn't exactly say it's "asking for it". The group consists of people who are just as much willing to comment/rep/read something you have done, as they are to do something themselves, and have that read by others. It's a mutual relationship... Comment on something made by others, or get a comment on something made by you.

I get that people like recognition, but if the ony way to get it is creating a group of people that promise to rep each other and respond to each other's posts, I personally think it comes across as a bit "forced" and even fake.

If people just keep creating interesting content, I'm sure they'll eventually get the appreciation they deserve on this forum (or somewhere else) and at least the praise will then be genuine, natural and truthful.

Just my two cents. :)

jrs
07-24-15, 07:50 PM
I get that people like recognition, but if the ony way to get it is creating a group of people that promise to rep each other and respond to each other's posts, I personally think it comes across as a bit "forced" and even fake.

If people just keep creating interesting content, I'm sure they'll eventually get the appreciation they deserve on this forum (or somewhere else) and at least the praise will then be genuine, natural and truthful.

Just my two cents. :)

This site technically doesn't need the 'rep factor'. Just as long as people converse, respond and notice what people contribute to this site, and people contribute things that others can relate to....than that should be the only thing that counts.

The fact that people are 'given rep' just adds a somewhat bonus that makes others feel good in a way. Though it doesn't add on to a person's reputation, since everyone's reputation doesn't rely on just what they post in a forum. :)

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 08:03 PM
Rep is not the important thing, really, I'm talking more commenting, discussing. Just trying to shine more light on the hard work of some of these members on here.

I actually think people do pretty good at repping and commenting or whatever, but there is room for improvement. And in no way is it "forced" imo, because, again, I'm not talking "look here, rep this!" scenario. It's more a way of linking to something you think you worked hard one, and then get a response in return.

Anyways...

I'm tired of defending this thread and the good spirited idea of helping and appreciating others. That's all it was. F*ck the thread, f*ck how it looks, f*ck if it doesn't run smoothly atm... I just want people to focus on the point...

Whatever...

This is my last post in response to people not digging the idea.

ursaguy
07-24-15, 08:07 PM
Instead of whoring out for reps, don't worry about them. I think the most reps on a review of mine is 4. I've seen posts of only a short paragraph saying something like "Tarantino is awesome amirite???" get that many. There's no need to be bothered or jealous of any of it. If you're that worried about getting reps for everything, you're talking about movies for the wrong reason (Hint: 99% of the time the right reason is that movies are something you enjoy and it's fun for you to do). Reps are a bonus, not the goal. MM should realize that and see that having an official club with a members list is kind of pointless, and everybody bashing him should realize that and see that nothing in this thread is harming anybody. I'd like to think that this thread is really about promoting comments, which are deserved for things that people worked hard on and are a million times more meaningful (and 3 million times more helpful) than reps anyway.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 08:11 PM
AGAIN...

I WANT DISCUSSION, COMMENTS...

NOT REP. F*CK THE REP. SCREW THE REP.

To me, rep doesn't mean much, other than I know people have seen it.

I want discussion, I want people to read it and be like "good review, how did you feel about the ending?" and I could respond and we could have a discussion on the film and have some more fun around here... That's it.

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 08:13 PM
MovieMeditation, you need MovieMedication.

TAKE A CHILL PILL!!!!

ursaguy
07-24-15, 08:13 PM
^^Fantastic statement. Should have led with that. It justifies the existence of this entire thread. Also, repped for irony.

Derek Vinyard
07-24-15, 08:14 PM
AGAIN...

I WANT DISCUSSION, COMMENTS...

NOT REP. F*CK THE REP. SCREW THE REP.

To me, rep doesn't mean much, other than I know people have seen it.

I want discussion, I want people to read it and be like "good review, how did you feel about the ending?" and I could respond and we could have a discussion on the film and have some more fun around here... That's it.

I give you rep for that you deserved it

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 08:15 PM
MovieMeditation, you need MovieMedication.

TAKE A CHILL PILL!!!!
I didn't have my meditation session today.

Okay here we go... *breahting in*... 1,2,3... *blowing out*.

I'm calm again. :)

But one second, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE SEXY, I TOLD YOU TO GET OUT!!!

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 08:17 PM
I'm here because I want my posts appreciated.

The posts I'm making in here, that is.

So, sign me up if that does it.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 08:26 PM
I'm here because I want my posts appreciated.

The posts I'm making in here, that is.

So, sign me up if that does it.
You are never committed to anything you sign up to.

I ban you from this thread! Death by exile!

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 08:27 PM
Oh, come on, M&Ms. Let's be fair. If you had only waited a week, this would be my thread. I would have thought of it and made it. It's half my thread because of that.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 08:37 PM
Your point has been made.

Now the group will vote on the matter. We must discuss this in great detail, it will not be an easy decision.

ALL FOR SEXY, SAY AY!

Dorothy Michaels
07-24-15, 08:44 PM
AY!

Cole416
07-24-15, 08:46 PM
no wAY

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 08:47 PM
That's two ay's. I'm in.

Swan
07-24-15, 08:47 PM
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002093431/1912547357_NayHorse_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 08:48 PM
I'ma say NAY!

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 08:48 PM
That's three ay's. That thing just has a weird accent.

Make that four ay's. M&M's has the accent, too.

Cole416
07-24-15, 08:49 PM
That's three ay's. That thing just has a weird accent.
Calling MM a thing isn't helping your chances!

JayDee
07-24-15, 09:14 PM
NOT REP. F*CK THE REP. SCREW THE REP.


:eek: Woah woah woah, let's not say something we can't take back. I'd just like to make it clear that the opinions of MovieMeditation when it comes to rep are not shared by all of MovieForum's reviewers. :D

I've got to say I do see some merit in these thread, certainly the idea behind it at least. I'm fortunate enough that I seem to have quite a sizeable number of individuals who pay attention to my reviews but I know that's not the case for everyone. Sometimes I see that people have put a lot of effort into something and in terms of both rep and feedback they haven't garnered much attention which seems a shame. Perhaps it's because they're fairly new to writing reviews or because they haven't made much of an impact in terms of becoming part of the community or whatever. Either way I think it's a nice idea to have a place for people, not to demand attention, but just to point people in the direction of something they may have missed

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:18 PM
I'm sorry JayDee, I gave your a rep as an apology. ;)

But BIG THANKS for understanding me and seeing the vision for this thread. It's exactly what you say it is. Props for being one of the few to get it so far. Maybe the only one to get it 100%

neiba
07-24-15, 09:19 PM
Not exactly a review thread, but if you wanna check out my finished Top 5 Directors, here is the link. (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42089)

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:21 PM
Not exactly a review thread, but if you wanna check out my finished Top 5 Directors, here is the link. (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42089)
This is for everything to appreciated. Big or small. This is definitely suited to be posted.

I should probably ditch that "member thing". Probably best to try without it.

Citizen Rules
07-24-15, 09:29 PM
MM what if you include a categorized reference post with links, like this.

MoFos Top Directors List
Rauldc's Top 10 Directors (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42170)
False Writer's Bandwagon Directors Thread...Top 10 Fav Dir! (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42221)
My Top 5 Directors (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42089)
No, this Top 10 Directors List is not brilliant... (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=38521)
etc.
etc.
etc.

MoFos Reviews
etc
etc
etc.

This could be just one feature of your thread

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:32 PM
Would be too much like JayDee's overview of lists.

And that would only link to threads. This is more for people to come in themselves and link to something new and exciting they have made.

Citizen Rules
07-24-15, 09:35 PM
OK, how about a Promote Yourself thread, where anyone can come and mention their latest review, list or thread.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:42 PM
OK, how about a Promote Yourself thread, where anyone can come and mention their latest review, list or thread.
You're looking at it.

This is it. That is exactly the idea, just with a different title (I'm thinking of removing the members-thing anyway)

Citizen Rules
07-24-15, 09:46 PM
Like I said before I like your overall idea....I all but quit writing reviews because it seemed no one was reading them. So if you can find a way to promote reviews and such, it could be a big help.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:50 PM
Like I said before I like your overall idea....I all but quit writing reviews because it seemed no one was reading them. So if you can find a way to promote reviews and such, it could be a big help.
Glad you like it.

The thread and concept may need reshaping, but hopefully the idea has potential enough to be acknowledged.

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 09:51 PM
Maybe you guys should actually start using this thread for what it's intended to do instead of just talking about the whole idea of it.

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:53 PM
Though this discussion should have been held elsewhere, so it didn't cloud the thread, It's important to make sure people understand it and maybe they can help reshape it.

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 09:54 PM
Let it shape itself.

Gatsby
07-24-15, 09:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ZJHkvsv.gif

I don't know what happened overnight, but overall I still think this is a harmless and pretty decent idea. Like Sexy said, sooner or never.

Edit - So rep is the problem eh? It's just a small red ball that pops up on your profile and I don't know why people... ooooh wait someone just gave me one..

MovieMeditation
07-24-15, 09:59 PM
Let it shape itself.
Hard to do when you keep sabotaging it.

Sexy Celebrity
07-24-15, 10:02 PM
At least I'm trying to take part in the thread's mission -- I'm asking that people appreciate my sabotage efforts.

Now, come on, people -- discuss what I've done so far. Kindly hit the rep button above my posts. Thank you in advance. :leo:

False Writer
07-25-15, 12:02 AM
This is for everything to appreciated. Big or small. This is definitely suited to be posted.

I should probably ditch that "member thing". Probably best to try without it.

Aw man. I don't feel special anymore. :p

MovieMeditation
07-31-15, 05:11 PM
Okay, let's test this thing out!

I recently did a review of Still Alice, but no one seems to have noticed it. Oh well, maybe it's because it sucks, how do I know. :p

Personally I really like how it turned out though, and I hope there's a few out there who wants to give it a look (especially the members of the association in here, I think highly of you! :D)

here's a link:
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1361266#post1361266

Swan
07-31-15, 05:17 PM
Did it work?

Citizen Rules
07-31-15, 05:18 PM
I will read it! I was actually planning to read it anyway. I'm curious as to what you thought about the movie...and even more importantly to me, what you chose to write about...I'll check it out latter tonight (that's tonight PST)

ursaguy
07-31-15, 06:26 PM
I don't say things to be mean, I say things to help, and you probably know way more than me about writing about film, but honestly I thought that review was really repetitive. It felt like you didn't have a lot to say about it, which isn't bad at all, but it becomes bad when you force it. You got out everything you needed to say in the first few sentences (Julianne Moore is great, the movie is mediocre Oscar-bait, the script is dull and unemotional, the stakes were low), and then you went back in circles for 3 paragraphs because you felt obligated to make it that long. If that specific movie doesn't give you the material to write that much, there is no shame in not writing that much. You could take a sentence from the 2nd and 3rd paragraph, delete the rest, and no content would be lost from it. Shorter reviews are easier for lazy people to read, so trimming fat can't hurt.

donniedarko
07-31-15, 07:29 PM
Sexy is the best part of this thread.

Sexy Celebrity
07-31-15, 07:31 PM
Sexy is the best part of this thread.

Well, thank you. DUH.

MovieMeditation
07-31-15, 07:55 PM
I don't say things to be mean, I say things to help, and you probably know way more than me about writing about film, but honestly I thought that review was really repetitive. It felt like you didn't have a lot to say about it, which isn't bad at all, but it becomes bad when you force it. You got out everything you needed to say in the first few sentences (Julianne Moore is great, the movie is mediocre Oscar-bait, the script is dull and unemotional, the stakes were low), and then you went back in circles for 3 paragraphs because you felt obligated to make it that long. If that specific movie doesn't give you the material to write that much, there is no shame in not writing that much. You could take a sentence from the 2nd and 3rd paragraph, delete the rest, and no content would be lost from it. Shorter reviews are easier for lazy people to read, so trimming fat can't hurt.
I appreciate that you want to share your opinion on my review. But that post should've been posted in the thread where the review is, not here. :)

Anyways, I just went through it and I don't feel like I repeat myself much. I elaborate on my intro, while shining light on other things as well. I mention certain periods and certain aspects within Moore's performance. And in all honestly, every review in the world could be written like "this was bad, this was good. The end". But that's not how I write reviews. If you like short and simple and bland writings, look elsewhere, because that's not me.

You may feel that my review is repeatitive because I purposely began and ended with saying pretty much the same thing - but with a little twist. If you think it worked or not, that is up to you, but I did it in connection with the theme of Alzheimer's disease, like a referens to memory loss. I also did it as a small wink to the scenes in the film where Alice had to remember a certain thing at the beginning of a conversation, then try to recall it when it ended. I even further did it because I wanted to show how the film didn't really evolve that much in my opinion...

I do think about what I write, I don't just repeat myself for the sake of doing so, though it might happen on occassions, which is to be expected - especially when written at 3 AM in the night. :)

foster
08-02-15, 10:52 PM
Check it out guys, I actually went to a movie theatre!!
My second review - Mission Impossible by the film maker I follow most closely, chris mcquarrie.

http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/1362442-mission-impossible-–-rogue-nation.html

foster
08-02-15, 11:01 PM
You guys repped my post but not the review.

MovieGal
08-02-15, 11:30 PM
not sure how to rep it... tell me and I will

Cole416
08-02-15, 11:34 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1362442#post1362442

Here you go

Citizen Rules
08-02-15, 11:34 PM
To rep Foster's review we need to click his link, read the review and rep it.

And I took my rather hastily written mini review of Mr Turner and turned it into a proper review.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1362967#post1362967

Cole416
08-02-15, 11:35 PM
I think I deserve more reps for having to sit through 2 hrs of stale jokes and sexual humor.

MovieGal
08-02-15, 11:38 PM
what movie Cole?

Citizen Rules
08-02-15, 11:39 PM
I think I deserve more reps for having to sit through 2 hrs of stale jokes and sexual humor.Must have been one of the comedies for the hof.

MovieGal
08-02-15, 11:39 PM
Must have been one of the comedies for the hof.

Does Cole know I dont like comedies?

Cole416
08-02-15, 11:40 PM
what movie Cole?
The new Vacation.

And that's funny CR, I'm planning on watching Life of Brian soon but i'm getting behind with them. I will make it a mission to watch them all though.

MovieGal
08-02-15, 11:41 PM
The new Vacation.

And that's funny CR, I'm planning on watching Life of Brian soon but i'm getting behind with them. I will make it a mission to watch them all though.

sorry Cole, no rep for that... I dont like that type of comedy.... but I still like you!

Cole416
08-02-15, 11:43 PM
sorry Cole, no rep for that... I dont like that type of comedy.... but I still like you!
I hated the movie so you can rep me for agreeing with you :)

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1361586#post1361586

Citizen Rules
08-02-15, 11:43 PM
The new Vacation.

And that's funny CR, I'm planning on watching Life of Brian soon but i'm getting behind with them. I will make it a mission to watch them all though. Good! I feel like I'm the only person watching those comedies. So far they've been pretty good too.

donniedarko
08-04-15, 08:25 PM
So is this thread pretty much

"Hey! Hey! Come rep my posts"

Mr Minio
08-04-15, 08:30 PM
So is this thread pretty much

"Hey! Hey! Come rep my posts" Why not. I just repped yours.

MovieMeditation
08-04-15, 08:34 PM
So is this thread pretty much

"Hey! Hey! Come rep my posts"
I don't even want to answer questions like this no more. I'm tired of it.

It's for YOU to READ other people's WORK. It you appreciate when people work hard to make something or especially if you like to do stuff like that yourself, you can come here and people are hopefully more comitted to back you up if you do the same to them.

It's not about rep, actually it's hardly about comments either. In its simplest meaning, it's just to create some appreciation and discussion around the forums. I feel like there is so much great work by MoFos which unfortunately gets overlooked. I wanna change that.

Cole416
08-04-15, 09:01 PM
So is this thread pretty much

"Hey! Hey! Come rep my posts"
Yes. I am rep whore

Citizen Rules
08-04-15, 10:32 PM
I like reps, but I'd rather have people reading my latest reviews.

Donnie, I think of this thread as a Reviewer's Discussion Group. Us lonely reviewers, who seldom get noticed, can come and talk to our fellow lonely reviewers...and we support each other that way.:)

I think MM has a good idea here and it will take some time but this idea will grow and work out.

jrs
08-04-15, 10:48 PM
The site has been around for 15 years, shouldn't this 'idea' have been worked out by now?

Sexy Celebrity
10-13-15, 07:14 PM
I wrote a movie review. (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/1398795-big-eden.html)

Nobody's noticed. It's sort of my first movie review in a year (the other one wasn't really a movie - in a way).

MovieMeditation
10-13-15, 07:25 PM
I wrote a movie review. (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/1398795-big-eden.html)

Nobody's noticed. It's sort of my first movie review in a year (the other one wasn't really a movie - in a way).
I wasn't too sure what too expect when this got bumped; especially not when it's SC who bumps it. :rolleyes::D

But that's a worthy bump, awesome to hear you're back at it - at least for now. I'll check it out a little later! :up:

Friendly Mushroom!
11-24-15, 04:48 PM
A few weeks ago, my English 11H teacher assigned an "extended definition essay." I received a 50/50 on it and she kept a copy of it to use as an example for future classes. I decided to post the essay here to see what you all think of it. It is unaltered from the version I turned in. :)

My earliest memory, other than various instances of me just crawling on the ground or what I think was my first time walking, is me learning to play the original Super Mario Bros. on my mother’s NES. Though video games have been accepted by most today as an entertainment medium that are here to stay, some people such as the late Roger Ebert denounced video games saying they are not art. But what is art to begin with? Why have some people accepted videogames, paintings, music, movies, literature as art while some don’t consider some installments in those mediums art? The Oxford American Dictionary says it is “the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.” So what does it mean?

Before we shall analyze the definition of art and what its limits are, we should give a list of “stuff” that is considered art, and sometimes not. Paintings and other drawings, sculptures, architecture, literature, movies, video games, music and many other practices that I probably haven’t heard of, are considered art by assorted peoples. Literature and music has always been considered art. Movies weren’t considered art when they first were invented but by the 1930’s, very few believed movies were not an art form. Video games are still controversial today in the year 2015, but most probably would call video games art. In the 80’s, 90’s and maybe even earlier this century, there would be a substantial amount of people that wouldn’t call video games art. What does time have to do with something being considered art or not? I’ll get to this later but first, what about fiction?

The art of fiction is probably the most widespread, and diverse, medium in the world. Everyone remembers the fairy tales you were told as a baby, the Disney movies that followed suit a few years later, and adult novels and books in your high school years; but why do people consider certain works of fiction art and others not?

Literature critics that tend to be on the conservative side when they critique a work of fiction on whether it is good or not say a work of fiction needs to have a theme, or at least a purpose to exist otherwise it can’t be art. Action films that have many explosions but don’t explore a lesson would be a prime target against this philosophy.

However, instrumental music never has a theme. There is not a lesson to be learned from listening to a Symphony by Mozart. Music is just sounds made to entertain the listener, yet unlike mindless action films, they are praised as art. Same goes for pretty pictures of landscapes, beaches, etc. They don’t teach us anything but they are praised as art as well. So why can an action movie with little plot not be called art because it has no theme or lesson while instrumental music is praised as art?
A piece of artwork can have a meaning as well as music. Music with lyrics can be religious praising whatever religion or simply having a straightforward lesson like The Beatles’ “All You Need is Love.” or social commentary like Creedence Clearwater Revival’s “Have You Ever Seen the Rain?” which is about the air raids on North Vietnam and Cambodia. Paintings can also have symbolism, depict scenes from mythology, wars or just be a portrait of a person. In short having a “theme.”

It should also be mentioned that as time goes on, some people are brought into the world of critiquing while others leave. Mad Max Fury Road has been praised by critics as one of the best films of the year for its great action despite little story. If Fury Road was released decades earlier, critics probably would have hated it for its lack of story, but since it was released today, young people have replaced older critics and since they’re “newer” they have a higher tolerance towards action films with little plot than older folks. However if Fury Road’s action scenes were done poorly, it wouldn’t have been praised, just like a sloppy painting of a meadow isn’t considered art. It failed to do its objective.

That’s what I think art is supposed to do. Art should achieve an objective. An action film’s goal is made to awe the viewer with incredible stunts and fight scenes. A painting’s goal is to awe the viewer with beautiful images. A serious/arthouse film’s goal is to provide social commentary or just have symbolism. If it fails to do its own objective, then it isn’t art. Video games strive for people to achieve goals they couldn’t do in real life, like save a princess or from an evil beast (Mario), fight aliens (Metroid and Halo), fight in a war (Call of Duty) or just commit crime (Grand Theft Auto.) Newer video games do have great stories that can challenge the greatest literature and movies but gameplay is the main point of the videogame. If a video game's gameplay is dismal, than it failed. If a movie wants to show symbolism on a certain topic but the product is self-indulgent and/or doesn’t make sense, the movie failed. If a movie wants to have no story whatsoever, just action scenes, but those action scenes have obvious green screen, obvious stunt doubles and clunky choreography, the movie failed. The goal of music to produce a memorable melody along with varying emotions. If the melody is annoying and the lacking with emotions, than it failed. Oxford said art is “appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.” Sheer fun, enjoyment can be a powerful emotion.

The definition of art can not be set in stone like a religious code of conduct as every single person you know has a different taste in fiction, music, drawings etc than you. You may love one movie and hate another while your best friend hates the movie you love and love the movie you hate.

Art; what is my definition?It is an expressive work that entertains, enlighten and/or challenges at least one person in the world. There are no limitations on what art can be. Only limitations on how much the beholder is awed.

Sexy Celebrity
11-24-15, 04:51 PM
People can remember when they first started to walk? I can't.

Friendly Mushroom!
11-24-15, 04:53 PM
I think that was. My parents told me I ran away from them when I first walked and my dad had to semi chase after me. He said he grabbed me by hiding in the bathroom. I remember an image of me walking past the bathroom and dad popping out of it and grabbing me so I'm assuming thats it.