Mayweather v Pacquiao [Archive]

the samoan lawyer

05-01-15, 09:01 AM

So, who's watching and whats the predictions? Anyone any plans for this?

I'm in 2 minds of the outcome. For me its either Floyd on points or Manny by late KO. I'll be hoping for the former as i'm a Mayweather fan although I do have a soft spot for Pacman.

Either way, lets hope for a great event and a great fight.

matt72582

05-01-15, 09:11 AM

Optimus

05-01-15, 09:27 AM

the samoan lawyer

05-01-15, 10:45 AM

I never watch boxing, but I kinda wanna see this. Not worth to pay $100 - there's "The Local 432" where they are playing this for $15 ($10 if you buy in advanced) but I doubt I'll go, if I had the money, I'd bet the line on Mayweather. It was -210.

That's crazy prices Matt. Over here it's your equivalent of $30. Although that's not including a subscription to Sky TV.

the samoan lawyer

05-01-15, 10:51 AM

I think this is an easy win for Mayweather. He holds a big reach advantage and he's got the greatest ever boxing defence. This will be another decision win for Mayweather. I just don't think PAC-Man will get in close enough and when he does the ref will separate.

I can't see it being easy for either fighter. It'll be interesting. If Floyd does what he says he will and fights aggressive it could end up being a quality fight. Pacman certainly won't be going backwards. No doubt Mayweather has got one of the best defences of all time but it will tested against Mannys shots, he punches from all angles. Like you say though, i wouldn't be backing against Floyd on points.

MovieBuffering

05-02-15, 01:51 AM

Pac man is going to overwhelm him with his speed and combinations. And he will be aggressive. Both fighters are motivated to win and a motivated Manny is an aggressive Manny. A motivated Floyd may become an aggressive Floyd and that's not what he does. Even if Floyd's not aggressive you can't sit back and play defense on Manny he will keep coming. It would be nice to see Floyd flaunting that money with a messed up face after a loss.

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Camo

05-02-15, 01:53 AM

Fabulous

05-02-15, 05:15 AM

I'm not watching, but picking Mayweather.

Camo

05-02-15, 03:27 PM

Powdered Water

05-02-15, 03:33 PM

Seems like these guys should have fought five years ago or so. Probably going to be a very long, boring fight with lots of dancing and holding. 300 million just for the ppv? Wow. Am I ever in the wrong line of work.

jiraffejustin

05-02-15, 03:35 PM

If it's boring it will be because of Mayweather. Seems like he has more to lose than Pac, and Pac doesn't have many boring fights.

Swan

05-02-15, 04:15 PM

JJ was telling me about Mayweather. Sounds like scum. Not into boxing but I guess I should be rooting for the other guy.

the samoan lawyer

05-02-15, 08:22 PM

Watching it tonight in mine with everyone I know and several I dont. Wouldn't be surprised if JayDee was there and I didn't have a clue :p . Hoping for a Floyd victory since I have a bet going with my friend.

I'm so happy :bawling::cage:

Good man Camo. Still can't quite believe it's actually happening!!
Put a bet on myself although not on Mayweather fight. Went with, Beltran win under 7.5, Lomachenko and Santa Cruz both win under 9.5. Long shot but got the Beltran bet up already plus odds were almost 27/1!!

Let's hope Floyd does the business!!!!

jiraffejustin

05-02-15, 09:17 PM

Saw this earlier today. Hopefully the back half is accurate, and hopefully Floyd will learn the top half stuff isn't okay.

http://i.imgur.com/IiAwr9e.png

matt72582

05-02-15, 09:51 PM

Maybe right before the fight starts, the guys shake hands and decide to call a truce.

Derek Vinyard

05-02-15, 10:49 PM

lets go PACMAN !!! Not a boxing fan but Pacquiao is one great human being giving half is money to poor country in world like Philippine

foster

05-02-15, 10:56 PM

I have no idea about any of these fighters, but party at the parents house tonight with like 14 people and the fight on 3 TVs so I'm going to watch it. Once I get off my laptop ..

just finished filming some music video shots at the craps table

seanc

05-02-15, 11:01 PM

Been really looking forward to this. First fight I have been excited about in a long time. Is anyone rooting for Mayweather besides Stephen A Smith?

jiraffejustin

05-02-15, 11:01 PM

Been really looking forward to this. First fight I have been excited about in a long time. Is anyone rooting for Mayweather besides Stephen A Smith?

People that like beating up women maybe.

Derek Vinyard

05-02-15, 11:03 PM

People that like beating up women maybe.

Maywheater is a garbage
Pacman is a beast

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 02:09 AM

Let's just not talk about this. :sick:

seanc

05-03-15, 02:12 AM

Let's just not talk about this. :sick:

Agreed. Great fight though. If Mayweather wasn't such a douche my thoughts would be much different.

Derek Vinyard

05-03-15, 02:15 AM

Mayweather technique is so g*y... wow Pacman deserved this win

bluedeed

05-03-15, 03:01 AM

Mayweather technique is so g*y... wow Pacman deserved this win

wow it's like you know you shouldn't be using that word like that, and then you do it anyways. That asterisk really makes a difference

Derek Vinyard

05-03-15, 03:02 AM

wow it's like you know you shouldn't be using that word like that, and then you do it anyways. That asterisk really makes a difference

I mean guy :)

foster

05-03-15, 03:18 AM

did pac really think he had won the fight?
in the movies they always have a coach or something in their corner telling them the fight score and what they need to do to win

Derek Vinyard

05-03-15, 03:22 AM

did pac really think he had won the fight?
in the movies they always have a coach or something in their corner telling them the fight score and what they need to do to win

The only thing Mayweather does in this fight was Hugging and Running lol at least Pac give some hard shot

Optimus

05-03-15, 06:40 AM

That was a clear win for Mayweather.

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 02:18 PM

did pac really think he had won the fight?
in the movies they always have a coach or something in their corner telling them the fight score and what they need to do to win

The judges in boxing are so terrible that the corners, or anybody else really, don't know much about the score. It does seem odd that Pac would think he was winning though, maybe he was influenced by the crowd and thought Floyd's non-aggressive style would have him ahead on points. Dunno.

Powdered Water

05-03-15, 02:48 PM

Like I said. Boring fight. Call it Mayweather strategy or what have you but boxing is dead. Honestly not sure how it sticks around and how so many people pay for something like that. Start saving up for the rematch folks!

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 02:57 PM

One thing I don't get is everybody complaining about the fight...like, shouldn't have EVERYBODY kind of seen this coming? Have they never seen Floyd fight before? It's not like he is going to change his style just because this is the biggest fight of his career.

90sAce

05-03-15, 03:12 PM

Disappointed that Mayweather one - I tend to just route for underdogs in general, and Mayweather's cocky attitude didn't help generate a lot of sympathy.

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 03:19 PM

Disappointed that Mayweather one - I tend to just route for underdogs in general, and Mayweather's cocky attitude didn't help generate a lot of sympathy.

And the whole woman beating thing.

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 04:06 PM

And I'd like to add that boxing isn't dead. I don't know how you could call it dead by any means. The sport of boxing makes a ton of money for the people at the top, and there's still exciting fighters. I think you should tune into HBO on May 16. The two fights on that night feature two top ten P4P guys that are really fun pressure fighters.

Fabulous

05-03-15, 04:33 PM

Mayweather with the clear win. Glad I watch MMA, though...

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 04:35 PM

Lay and pray MMA is just as bad as the worst boxing bouts, and lay and pray is the majority of MMA right now.

seanc

05-03-15, 05:09 PM

I enjoyed the fight even though I wanted a different outcome. Manny clearly lost but he took the fight to him and I thought it was entertaining. Not a lot of jab and grab that you usually see in the big fights.

Paquiao had to figure Floyd was throwing less punches then he did to think he won. He was the agressor so fight must have felt different then it looked.

People are complaining about Floyd's style but he is incredibly effective. Fast and accurate allows you to box that way and simply carve your opponet up. Not many can do it, but he is one of the greats. Yes, I hate the guy too but that becomes irrelevant if your talking about the fight itself.

Fabulous

05-03-15, 06:29 PM

Lay and pray MMA is just as bad as the worst boxing bouts, and lay and pray is the majority of MMA right now.

MMA > Boxing

I won't bother arguing, just what I think is better.

MovieBuffering

05-03-15, 06:39 PM

Boxing > MMA

If I wanted to see someone tap out by submission I'd watch WWE. If I wanted to see two fighters roll on the ground I'd watch women's jello wrestling.

No MMA fight can match the excitement of a boxing fight like the one last night. Everyone that knows anything about boxing knew if Mayweather controlled the fight it would be dull because that's what he does. The exciting part was everyone thinking Manny, who doesn't fight many dull fights, had the style to get Floyd out of that, but for whatever reason he didn't.

Boxing feels like an art (probably why there are so many boxing movies). MMA just feels like a controlled bar fight.

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 07:03 PM

MMA > Boxing

I won't bother arguing, just what I think is better.

Yeah, I like MMA better too. But the current state of MMA is sh*t.

However MovieBuffering's stance on MMA just being a controlled bar fight is awful. Makes no sense, I've never seen anybody in a bar fight pass guard and pull an armbar. And I am pretty sure there's a bunch of boxing movies because the sport been around a long time, has an interesting history filled with dirty deeds and interesting characters. Plus the nature of the sport being one on one can make for a compelling drama.

And MMA is not just two people rolling on the floor, but tell me how that's better than a fight where one guy punches another guy's forearms until the other guy hugs.

Yoda

05-03-15, 07:09 PM

Lay and pray MMA is just as bad as the worst boxing bouts, and lay and pray is the majority of MMA right now.
Warning: half-backed theorizing ahead.

I think this is a fundamental problem with competitive fighting: by making it civilized enough to exist in society, and be enjoyed by well-adjusted people, it can't be too savage. So it needs rules. But the more rules it has the less it can feel like "fighting" and the more opportunity its participants have to try to exploit those rules in ways that may be effective or impressive, but aren't necessarily entertaining.

In terms of both potential harm and the money involved, there's not as much incentive to fight with the kind of reckless abandon that, frankly, would be more interesting to watch.

jiraffejustin

05-03-15, 07:20 PM

While I agree with you, I don't think ground fighting has to be boring. There are fighters who try to achieve a dominate ground position, but then advance their position even further, or at least there used to be. There's risk involved with this such as possibly losing your position or getting caught with a submission, but that's why you set it up. My major qualm with the MMA lay and pray is that nobody seems to care about improving their positions anymore. I know what you are saying about the rules and stuff, but this isn't really a rules issue. Unless of course you want to argue that their should be a rule penalizing stalling, which is all it is, but then that would be a rule that made it feel more like a fight.

the samoan lawyer

05-05-15, 09:25 AM

So I was happy with the outcome and the fight was pretty much how I expected it, although I thought Pacman would have done more. I only had him winning 2 rounds the whole fight. Like Sean said earlier, this is the way Floyd fights. Anyone tuning in for Ward-Gatti barnburner was always going to be let down.

With regards MMA, ive never really got into it although with the emergence of Conor McGregor, i'm interested. Anyone any thoughts on him?

90sAce

05-05-15, 03:51 PM

Mayweather's planning on 1 more fight in September before he retires; it'd be cool if he stuck around for 2 more so he could beat the previous recordholder - I'd be eager to watch that.

jiraffejustin

05-05-15, 05:25 PM

With regards MMA, ive never really got into it although with the emergence of Conor McGregor, i'm interested. Anyone any thoughts on him?

I love when "heel" characters emerge in "real" combat sports, and I don't mean Floyd Mayweather types, I mean the type of guys that are charismatic and feel like they are just putting on a show. McGregor, despite not actually seeing any of his fights, has become one of my favorite MMA personalities. His antics are always funny, I hope he beats Jose Aldo and UFC gives him the push they gave the scummy Jon Jones.

Fabulous

05-05-15, 05:48 PM

I love when "heel" characters emerge in "real" combat sports, and I don't mean Floyd Mayweather types, I mean the type of guys that are charismatic and feel like they are just putting on a show. McGregor, despite not actually seeing any of his fights, has become one of my favorite MMA personalities. His antics are always funny, I hope he beats Jose Aldo and UFC gives him the push they gave the scummy Jon Jones.

That's one of the reasons why I liked Sonnen so much. He was great fun to follow around.

Optimus

05-05-15, 06:04 PM

*^^^ that's not true at all. MMA is more exciting than it's ever been.

jiraffejustin

05-05-15, 06:10 PM

*^^^ that's not true at all. MMA is more exciting than it's ever been.

Not even close. MMA was fantastic from somewhere around 2000 through 2007 when PRIDE was king of the hill. MMA has had it's moments since then, but to say MMA is more exciting than it's ever been is ludicrous. I don't even know how that could be considered. Unless you like the over-saturation of a million shows a year filled with less than desirable cards chock-full of mediocre fights.

MovieBuffering

05-06-15, 02:30 AM

Pac man had a torn rotator cuff. That, to me at least, makes his performance impressive. A torn rotator cuff is kind of a big deal to a boxer, he was basically fighting with one good arm against one of the best boxers ever. I mean he definitely lost, but he wasn't embarrassed. It had to take his trademark aggressiveness away from him.

They said Mayweather knew about the injury too.Had a mole in Pac man's camp. Maybe that's why he was so complimentary of Pac man after the fight. He knew he was fighting with one arm, maybe he thought it would be a cake walk maybe even thought a KO was possible. Instead he lasted 12. Just a thought.

Love to see a rematch next May with both fighters at full health. I think you would see a much different fight. Pacquiao would go balls to the wall.

Optimus

05-06-15, 02:38 AM

Not even close. MMA was fantastic from somewhere around 2000 through 2007 when PRIDE was king of the hill. MMA has had it's moments since then, but to say MMA is more exciting than it's ever been is ludicrous. I don't even know how that could be considered. Unless you like the over-saturation of a million shows a year filled with less than desirable cards chock-full of mediocre fights.

Yeah I do. I like all mma fights so the more the better. Boxing has events week in week out with less stacked cards aswell.

And it's not ludicrous at all. Mma still has a higher finishing rate than boxing. But your making out that mma is just 2 guys rolling around on the floor, which is not the case at all. The ufc has some fantastic fights this year and very exciting devisions.

jiraffejustin

05-06-15, 02:47 AM

Dude. I have defended ground fighting. I appreciate BJJ and catch wrestling, but I don't like that almost nobody tries to improve their position. Pass guard and try something, dammit. And if you are on bottom, risk some energy by going for a sweep. I don't know, do something. Sure there's exceptions, but it's hard to watch an entire MMA card at this point.

And of course MMA has a higher finishing rate, it's designed that way. That's why they wear lighter gloves. A fight being "finished" doesn't change whether or not it's an exciting fight. How can you like EVERY fight or ALL of anything? Sure boxing has a lot of events, but they are designed to have a main attraction with an undercard of only a handful of fights. The UFC used to be good at countering this by offering stacked cards, now they have pretty much adopted the boxing way of doing things with one big fight. This works against MMA though, because the fights are shorter. A boxing bout can go up to an hour, while an MMA bout can only go up to 30 minutes (factoring in the periods in-between rounds.) It makes more sense for MMA to have a stacked card.