Should a woman replace Andrew Jackson on the U.S. $20 bill? [Archive]

Citizen Rules

03-19-15, 11:34 PM

There's a growing movement in the U.S. to remove the 7th American President, Andrew Jackson from the $20 bill and replace him with a U.S. woman. Is this the right thing to do? And who would you choose to replace Andrew???

Short 2 minute video.
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/campaign-put-one-these-women-20-bill-n326761

List of the 16 potential women for the $20 bill
Elizabeth Cady Stanton
‎Rosa Parks
‎Clara Barton‎
Alice Paul‎
Eleanor Roosevelt‎
Shirley Chisholm‎
Frances Perkins‎
Margaret Sanger‎
Susan B. Anthony‎
Sojourner Truth‎
Betty Friedan‎
Harriet Tubman‎
Patsy Mink‎
Barbara Jordan‎
Rachel Carson‎

Have you guys heard of any them before?

Credit to DonnieDarko whom first posted about this on the Shoutbox.

False Writer

03-20-15, 12:15 AM

Never heard of this. What's wrong with Andrew Jackson? What has he done to deserve being removed from the $20 bill?

Also, wouldn't it be kinda hard to try to get rid of all the Jackson 20's if they want to replace them?

I've heard of Rosa Parks, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Harriet Tubman. I probably heard of a few more but just forgot who they were.

Frightened Inmate No. 2

03-20-15, 12:22 AM

Never heard of this. What's wrong with Andrew Jackson? What has he done to deserve being removed from the $20 bill?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

donniedarko

03-20-15, 12:33 AM

donniedarko

03-20-15, 12:34 AM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

Grant was one of our most corrupt presidents and he's on the 50, I think it's more important to look at how influential the person was, rather than their morales. Which while in our day disgusting, in his time perfectly acceptable

gbgoodies

03-20-15, 12:40 AM

Keep Andy on there. One of our strongest presidents, who truly has left a great mark on US politics. I really don't believe in replacing him at all, but the idea of doing it just because of gender is even more absurd. We already have Sacajewea-i probably slaughtered that- dollar coin.

We also had a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin for a few years (1979 - 1981). Most people didn't like it because it was too close to the size and weight of the quarter, so many people got them confused.

foster

03-20-15, 01:47 AM

Also, wouldn't it be kinda hard to try to get rid of all the Jackson 20's if they want to replace them?

You do realize newer bills have increased security features and look different.. even though they look different they didn't go and get rid of all the older ones

jiraffejustin

03-20-15, 02:25 AM

My opinion on this subject: Who cares?

Pussy Galore

03-20-15, 02:30 AM

Grant was one of our most corrupt presidents and he's on the 50, I think it's more important to look at how influential the person was, rather than their morales. Which while in our day disgusting, in his time perfectly acceptable

I am not American so it's an opinion from an outsider, but this sentance is ridiculous to me. If I follow your reasoning the amount of influence is the more important thing regarding presidents regardless if it's positive or negative. Morality is more important than ''influence'', also you use cultural relativism. Because in its time it was ''acceptable'' we don't really care, I can agree with you that for someone who doesn't really ask himself some important philosophical questions it's understandable, but fr the leader of the ****ry no way.

Frightened Inmate No. 2

03-20-15, 02:50 AM

Grant was one of our most corrupt presidents and he's on the 50, I think it's more important to look at how influential the person was, rather than their morales. Which while in our day disgusting, in his time perfectly acceptable

so? just because what he did was acceptable then (and i can think of thousands of native americans who would beg to differ), it doesn't mean that we need to be embracing that in the modern day, where that is absolutely not acceptable.

and how does the fact that it's for gender equality make it worse? men are on every bill and every important coin, would it really be that big of a deal to let women have some representation on our money? this is just like the ghostbusters backlash but even more insane.

i'm all for replacing grant too, btw.

Frightened Inmate No. 2

03-20-15, 02:51 AM

although i wouldn't mind a petition to get this picture on the 20

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/78yo_Andrew_Jackson.jpg

The Rodent

03-20-15, 02:57 AM

The Duchess

03-20-15, 03:09 AM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

What's wrong with Andy?

BrowningIdentity

03-20-15, 03:52 AM

I don't care who goes on what dollar bill, so long as William H. Harrison never ends up on anything!

bluedeed

03-20-15, 04:35 AM

I am not American so it's an opinion from an outsider, but this sentance is ridiculous to me. If I follow your reasoning the amount of influence is the more important thing regarding presidents regardless if it's positive or negative. Morality is more important than ''influence'', also you use cultural relativism. Because in its time it was ''acceptable'' we don't really care, I can agree with you that for someone who doesn't really ask himself some important philosophical questions it's understandable, but fr the leader of the ****ry no way.

I think there is a point to what dd is saying in that if our money is meant as a representation of our historical selves, it's important to remember what happened, good and bad. America has the tendency to erase and skew history in such ways that reminders of our genocidal past should be welcome. On the other hand, will putting someone's face on a bill invoke questioning or acceptance by the majority of people? I'd wager acceptance and complacency, which isn't what we want. Though, I don't think this issue is very interesting to begin with, there are much greater influences on the American psyche that should be covered first

christine

03-20-15, 06:53 AM

Nothing wrong with having a man or a woman on money.

Obviously we have the Queen on all our current notes, but Britain has Elizabeth Fry on the current £5.
We used to have Florence Nightingale on the £10.
In 2017 our £10 will change to Jane Austen.

I like the idea of having different, diverse people on our banknotes now and again. Although the Jane Austen one didn't get agreed until there was a campaign because there wouldn't have been a woman apart from the Queen on the new ones.

TheUsualSuspect

03-20-15, 07:49 AM

We have the Queen on our $20.

Tacitus

03-20-15, 07:59 AM

He's one of your Ulster-sourced politicians (like John McCain, Useless Grant, Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman in order of importance) so keep him on...

...Unless he's replaced by an Ulster-American woman, of course, and there's plenty of those: Dolly Parton, Kim Basinger, Debbie Reynolds, Christina Ricci etc. Take yer pick America!

donniedarko

03-20-15, 10:42 AM

so? just because what he did was acceptable then (and i can think of thousands of native americans who would beg to differ), it doesn't mean that we need to be embracing that in the modern day, where that is absolutely not acceptable.

and how does the fact that it's for gender equality make it worse? men are on every bill and every important coin, would it really be that big of a deal to let women have some representation on our money? this is just like the ghostbusters backlash but even more insane.

i'm all for replacing grant too, btw.

I don't think having him on our bill is embracing the trail of tears. But rather how he shaped the nation.

My issue is just throwing a random woman on the bill, just so we can have a woman on a bill. The gender of who's on the bill should not matter. Unless we're just looking for a Quota Woman

False Writer

03-20-15, 11:29 AM

The thing that irks me about this isn't putting a woman on a bill but the idea that they have to replace someone that's been on there forever without any real good reason.

How about they bring the $2 bill back and put a woman on that? I would be fine with that.

matt72582

03-20-15, 12:21 PM

I think there are much more pressing issues than this - it's silly to consider costing money to make new money. They spent millions making the new $5 bill, as if there was an alternative, or people boycotting the way a bill looks like.

Yoda

03-20-15, 12:22 PM

They spent millions making the new $5 bill, as if there was an alternative, or people boycotting the way a bill looks like.
The "alternative" is counterfeit money. They redesign bills to add in new security measures to make them harder to counterfeit.

matt72582

03-20-15, 12:58 PM

Counterfeiting with the $5 bill? I would have thought the $100, $50, $20, or even the $10 being more likely for counterfeit, but I don't keep up with fiat news as much.

Yoda

03-20-15, 01:02 PM

I'm sure they were much more likely to be counterfeited...right up until they introduced more sophisticated versions of them. At which point suddenly the risk/reward ratio changed and it became more profitable to counterfeit smaller bills, with a smaller chance of being caught, than larger ones with a higher chance.

Citizen Rules

03-20-15, 01:10 PM

I've heard of Rosa Parks, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Harriet Tubman. I probably heard of a few more but just forgot who they were. Those are the 3 women that I've heard of too. There were many great women in our history, but most didn't have the same impact in creating our nation as did Andrew Jackson. That's mainly because women didn't have the vote or the same rights as men, way back when, so they didn't have as much chance to impact the nation.

Grant was one of our most corrupt presidents and he's on the 50, I think it's more important to look at how influential the person was, rather than their morals. Which while in our day disgusting, in his time perfectly acceptable I agree with that. It's the importance of shaping the American nation. And with his Manifest Destiny, Jackson made America into the global power that we are today. Personally I don't like Andrew Jackson after seeing a documentary about him BUT he was very influential in building the country.

...My issue is just throwing a random woman on the bill, just so we can have a woman on a bill. The gender of who's on the bill should not matter. Unless we're just looking for a Quota Woman Excellent post!

I think there are much more pressing issues than this - it's silly to consider costing money to make new money.... Also an excellent point. The Andrew Jackson $20 bill has already been brought up to security standards. I couldn't find a estimate on the cost of replacing the Jackson $20 bills but it would be in the many millions I'm sure.

My suggestion is, we did 50 different quarters for each state. So how about 50 more different quarters to honor women and others.

matt72582

03-20-15, 01:24 PM

Having said that currency is not such an important issue, if you had to, Eleanor Roosevelt would be a great replacement.

gbgoodies

03-20-15, 02:16 PM

Citizen Rules

03-20-15, 02:31 PM

I like Eleanor Roosevelt, she was a strong and influential First Lady.

My personal vote would be for Amelia Earhart (but I'd get rid of the hat, she looks like the Flying Nun)

http://www.newrepublic.com/sites/default/files/u187040/20.jpg

gbgoodies

03-20-15, 03:25 PM

Tacitus

03-20-15, 05:05 PM

If you're going to pick a female celebrity, shouldn't it be Meryl Streep?

Compared to Dolly, Kim, Debbie and old lightbulb head? Certainly not.

A Meryl Streep banknote would spend far too long pretending to be different currencies anyway.

honeykid

03-20-15, 05:58 PM

Thanks a nice joke. :D:up:

Miss Vicky

03-20-15, 06:09 PM

Personally I couldn't care less whose mug is on my cash, as long as it's legal tender. All I care about is having some cash.

Friendly Mushroom!

03-20-15, 07:32 PM

Those are the 3 women that I've heard of too. There were many great women in our history, but most didn't have the same impact in creating our nation as did Andrew Jackson. That's mainly because women didn't have the vote or the same rights as men, way back when, so they didn't have as much chance to impact the nation.

I agree with that. It's the importance of shaping the American nation. And with his Manifest Destiny, Jackson made America into the global power that we are today. Personally I don't like Andrew Jackson after seeing a documentary about him BUT he was very influential in building the country.

Excellent post!

Also an excellent point. The Andrew Jackson $20 bill has already been brought up to security standards. I couldn't find a estimate on the cost of replacing the Jackson $20 bills but it would be in the many millions I'm sure.

My suggestion is, we did 50 different quarters for each state. So how about 50 more different quarters to honor women and others.

And another set of quarters to honor the great American artists/writers/musicians/actors etc.

gbgoodies

03-20-15, 07:33 PM

And another set of quarters to honor the great American artists/writers/musicians/actors etc.

If we're putting writers on money, I nominate Mark Twain.

christine

03-20-15, 08:13 PM

Counterfeiting with the $5 bill? I would have thought the $100, $50, $20, or even the $10 being more likely for counterfeit, but I don't keep up with fiat news as much.

It's more common for lower currency to be counterfeit as it's easier to pass it off. People inspect high currency notes more closely. Just over 3% of British pound coins in circulation are fakes. We're moving to plastic banknotes starting next year so it'll be ok if you leave your money in your jeans pocket in the washing machine ;)

Pussy Galore

03-20-15, 08:29 PM

I see the point that having someone on the currency of the country doesn't mean that you endorse what he did. However saying he was a great president would be hard to prove.

Citizen Rules

03-20-15, 09:09 PM

And another set of quarters to honor the great American artists/writers/musicians/actors etc. I like that idea. I believe the U.S. mint makes money when they change the did the state quarters as people collect them, so it's like the U.S. Mint sells them.

If we're putting writers on money, I nominate Mark Twain. Yup Mark Twain would be perfect. So would Jack London. Both were characters on one of my favorite TV shows. My favorite writer would me Hemingway.

90sAce

03-22-15, 04:37 PM

I think we should replace him with Christopher Columbus ;)

Sexy Celebrity

03-22-15, 08:38 PM

It's about time! I am so ready to spend my Melissa McCarthy money.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=20672&stc=1&d=1427067467

Citizen Rules

03-22-15, 08:52 PM

Are you sure that's Melissa McCarthy? It still says JACKSON under her chin;)

Sexy Celebrity

03-22-15, 08:55 PM

Are you sure that's Melissa McCarthy? It still says JACKSON under her chin;)

I think you meant "chins."

Citizen Rules

03-22-15, 08:59 PM

HA! good one.

90sAce

03-22-15, 09:00 PM

so? just because what he did was acceptable then (and i can think of thousands of native americans who would beg to differ), it doesn't mean that we need to be embracing that in the modern day, where that is absolutely not acceptable.

Since most of the founders owned slaves, then it could equally (falsely) be said that featuring them on their money is 'embracing slavery' - as far as I'm aware of though none of them are being celebrated "because they owned slaves", so that's just guilt by association

where that is absolutely not acceptable.

I have a feeling the public polls would disagree with that - reminds me of fringe religious groups like "American Family Association" decreeing what's acceptable - when in reality they are far less acceptable (or relevant altogether) in the grand spectrum of things. What I'm saying is people in general don't feel as strongly about Jackson as the special interest groups do who unilaterally decree themselves the arbiters of "acceptable".

this is just like the ghostbusters backlash but even more insane.

Nope. What's insane is using 'affirmative action' as an argument for who to star in a movie instead of who's the best acting choices :lol:

i'm all for replacing grant too, btw.

I'm for replacing the British Flag with the Walmart logo

Serious (though sarcastic) post BTW - I don't plan on trolling you anymore so long as you make serious replies instead of drive by attacks like you have before.

donniedarko

06-21-15, 03:46 PM

Well looks like a woman will replace Hamilton in 2020. Guess we just have to hit a quota with women on currency

jrs

06-21-15, 06:36 PM

Harriet Tubman wins poll to replace Andrew Jackson on $20 bill (http://nypost.com/2015/05/13/harriet-tubman-wins-poll-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE5GnplWgAEXHp1.jpg

Cole416

06-21-15, 06:53 PM

tbh make this the 1 dollar bill

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BNDRWkjK87c/TExqGkAyGuI/AAAAAAAAB2I/Zzc47QGiPlo/s1600/Picture+2.png

The Sci-Fi Slob

06-21-15, 07:05 PM

For me it's between Hillary Clinton and Oprah.

https://zibbet.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/photo/file/8983282/gallery_hero_1d63e9e1-343b-4a08-ae0e-12eaab954762.jpg

http://www.newrepublic.com/sites/default/files/u187040/1.jpg

jrs

06-21-15, 07:21 PM

https://bmj2k.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/d14.jpg

SilentVamp

06-21-15, 07:31 PM

The last I heard they weren't going to replace Jackson but Alexander Hamilton. And truthfully, I couldn't care less if they replaced Jackson (I have a list of reasons why I don't care, but I am not too interested in getting into any of them). What I do have a problem with is the replacement of Hamilton. After all, how can you replace the man who made our money the way it is? I am confused. If they aren't getting rid of Jackson because he is a president, then why is Franklin still on the money? This makes no sense.

Besides, this isn't what they wanted. They wanted Jackson to be gone. And that kind of ruins the whole idea of having a woman on the $20 bill in 2020 (which would be the 100th anniversary of women's right to vote).

If they really are going to do this (I really wish it wouldn't be Hamilton), the only two women that really deserve that spot are either Harriet Tubman or Eleanor Roosevelt. At least that is how I feel about it.

Frightened Inmate No. 2

06-21-15, 07:57 PM

i heard they're replacing hamilton instead of jackson because the $10 bill is the next one up for an update anyway. would've preferred it to be jackson, but i'm still all for this.

SilentVamp

06-21-15, 08:04 PM

i heard they're replacing hamilton instead of jackson because the $10 bill is the next one up for an update anyway. would've preferred it to be jackson, but i'm still all for this.
I also heard that they were still going to keep Hamilton on the bill somewhere, but they haven't even hinted as to how they would do that. I won't complain too much if he isn't pushed aside too much.

Still, even if it was in need for an update, that kind of messes up the idea of having a woman on the $20 in 2020. You see the "theme" here. :) Part of me wants to bet that upsets a lot of people more than the fact that they are keeping Jackson. :)

foster

06-21-15, 08:55 PM

I say we put a black lesbian on the bill. Lets just get this all over with at once.

AdamUpBxtch

06-21-15, 09:26 PM

This is just like the Ghostbusters debacle, all these famous people trying to be politically correct. There is no reason to change the face of the dollar bill besides what I've just stated there is literally nothing to be gain or lost from doing this. TBH I don't care who's face is on my money as long it is still worth that certain amount. Cross my fingers to one day have a dollar bill with Jennifer Lawrence's face....okay i'm gonna shut up now.

Soon the dollar bill will be made of metal and the face will be gif and it'll be who the current president is and it'll wink at you right before you purchase something.....its coming people I can feel it.

Might as well change the 10 dollar bill while we're at it
http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/yoda-dollar-bill-currency-cash-art.jpg
or to make some others happy
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/dollar-bill-art-11.jpg?w=550&h=235

Camo

06-21-15, 09:37 PM

This is just like the Ghostbusters debacle, all these famous people trying to be politically correct. There is no reason to change the face of the dollar bill besides what I've just stated there is literally nothing to be gain or lost from doing this. TBH I don't care who's face is on my money as long it is still worth that certain amount. Cross my fingers to one day have a dollar bill with Jennifer Lawrence's face....okay i'm gonna shut up now.

It is not my money but if it was our notes being changed I really wouldn't care less, as long as a fiver with a woman on it bought me the same amount of goods as one with a man on it :shrug: .

Personally I don't think either side has much of a point. It's not as if a woman being on currency is going to bring any real life positive changes for females, its also not the PC brigade forcing anything down your throat, currency pictures change all the time it was inevitable that a woman would be on one at some point. Failing to see why this is a big deal at all :shrug: .

AdamUpBxtch

06-21-15, 09:40 PM

It is not my money but if it was our notes being changed I really wouldn't care less, as long as a fiver with a woman on it bought me the same amount of goods as one with a man on it :shrug: .

Personally I don't think either side has much of a point. It's not as if a woman being on currency is going to bring any real life positive changes for females, its also not the PC brigade forcing anything down your throat, currency pictures change all the time it was inevitable that a woman would be on one at some point. Failing to see why this is a big deal at all :shrug: .

yeah same here I just don't care honestly about all this and don't see what the big deal is

jrs

06-22-15, 01:30 AM

As long as we have currency to get we need to get have, who cares who's face is on what bill. Batman could be on our U.S currency for all I care. lol

False Writer

06-22-15, 12:21 PM

As long as we have currency to get we need to get have, who cares who's face is on what bill. Batman could be on our U.S currency for all I care. lol

But why does it need to happen? Why can't they just leave history alone? Sure, it doesn't really affect anything outright, but it's annoying and it will help pave the way for even worse and ridiculous PC "ideas" that eventually will start to affect us.

ash_is_the_gal

06-25-15, 03:41 PM

The gender of who's on the bill should not matter. Unless we're just looking for a Quota Woman

it kinda has mattered though, that's why all US currency that most people deal with day to day is old white guys. if it didn't matter, then we'd have had women, poc, etc long before now. and i can think of loads of influential women that could replace Jackson, so why not? people say they don't care or that it doesn't matter, but they still argue it.

donniedarko

06-25-15, 04:55 PM

Hamilton and Jackson are both on the bills for how they built the political and economic system around them. I honestly can't think of one woman who has been as influential.

ash_is_the_gal

06-25-15, 05:30 PM

Yoda

06-25-15, 05:47 PM

Being important is certainly a criteria for being on currency, but it's not the only one. It's also intended to honor people and their achievements. And the magnitude of an achievement is measured both by its influence, and by the its influence relative to the obstacles faced. It's also an expression of ideals, even (especially?) those we don't always live up to. By those standards, Harriet Tubman makes for a fine choice: her actions faced tremendous obstacles and express core American ideals.

I do think it's unfortunate that the person was decided after the gender, though. That really sends the wrong message. "Let's put Harriet Tubman on the ten" is a good idea. "Let's put a woman on the ten, but we'll figure out who later" reeks of political calculation, and it only distracts from the life and work of the extraordinary woman chosen for the honor.

donniedarko

06-29-15, 02:15 AM

shouldn't our currency be used to celebrate America - and Americans - rather than solely our American Economy? our political and economical system, as you put it, has been built by white men, obviously that's not going to change. but recognizing important women in a public manner, especially influential women of color, conveys the message that woman can make important contributions and have done so.

Not as important though

I'm perfectly fine with the Sacajewea dollar coin, but to replace Hamilton just have "a woman" on the bill isn't right imo. They didn't even announce who. I'm honestly just happy they aren't touching Andy though

donniedarko

06-29-15, 02:16 AM

Exactly how Yoda stated, I'm fine with a woman getting a spot on a bill. Not just any woman though

ash_is_the_gal

06-29-15, 09:54 AM

then i think we are in agreement. cause i never said 'just any woman.' not sure why you're disagreeing with me but agreeing with him?

donniedarko

06-29-15, 11:43 AM

But the thing is the announcement says that there will be a woman on the bill in 2020. Meaning the only real requirement is being female, which I was saying shouldn't be a factor

Yoda

04-20-16, 01:24 PM

It's official: Jackson off, Tubman on. I am pleased.

https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/722822665686355968

TONGO

04-20-16, 01:26 PM

It's official: Jackson off, Tubman on. I am pleased.

https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/722822665686355968

Has there been a movie made about her? Incredible story.

Yoda

04-20-16, 01:42 PM

Dunno.

Also: I'm happy it was Jackson going, and not Hamilton. Hamilton was cool.

Slappydavis

04-20-16, 01:50 PM

Honestly it just makes sense to get Jackson off the 20 because I doubt he would even want to be on it.

Captain Steel

04-20-16, 01:59 PM

Dunno.

Also: I'm happy it was Jackson going, and not Hamilton. Hamilton was cool.

Not according the the John Adams book by David McCullough. Abigail Adams felt that if Hamilton had had his way, he would've been America's Napoleon.
The book didn't paint Jefferson in a very good light either.
.

False Writer

04-20-16, 02:10 PM

I actually live like minutes away from where Tubman was born and where the underground railroad ran through. I'm pretty shocked, I didn't know that she was so recognized and famous enough to be on a dollar bill.

Yoda

04-20-16, 03:05 PM

https://twitter.com/Reddy/status/722839392314925056
https://twitter.com/EvaCStone/status/722843665123553280

Yoda

04-20-16, 03:56 PM

Sorry for another post, but Twitter's having a good day with this news:

https://twitter.com/TheBrandonMorse/status/722858267190276097

Swan

04-20-16, 04:54 PM

I will laugh when the bill comes out and it's just Andrew Jackson in a tub.

Sexy Celebrity

04-20-16, 07:31 PM

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24957&stc=1&d=1461191458

That's just downright gangsta.

Citizen Rules

04-20-16, 07:52 PM

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24957&stc=1&d=1461191458

The new $20 bill will totally heal the nation and end all racial tensions. Yup, I'm sure of it.

Friendly Mushroom!

04-20-16, 07:56 PM

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24957&stc=1&d=1461191458

The new $20 bill will totally heal the nation and end all racial tensions. Yup, I'm sure of it.

I wish it would, but nobody's satisfied these days. They just like being rude and stuff and think they're always right.

Camo

04-20-16, 08:04 PM

I wish it would, but nobody's satisfied these days. They just like being rude and stuff and think they're always right.

Man i love you, you are the nicest person ever haha :up:

Everone (including me) should be more like Mushroom from now on.

Captain Steel

04-20-16, 11:04 PM

I don't really mind who they put on the 20 dollar bill, as long as the motivation is not JUST to be politically correct.

And, no matter how you feel about who shows up there, remember... it could always be worse...

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24960&stc=1&d=1461203841

(Heh! I completely forgot how to use Photoshop and it took me forever to make this simple image! I thought for sure if I Googled "Sharpton 20 dollar bill" someone would've already made one, but nope! So here's a Capt. original!)

Citizen Rules

04-20-16, 11:08 PM

rauldc14

04-20-16, 11:20 PM

When will we legitimately see Tubmans floating around?

Captain Steel

04-20-16, 11:22 PM

Sorry for another post, but Twitter's having a good day with this news:

https://twitter.com/TheBrandonMorse/status/722858267190276097

This one's pretty cool - but I doubt they'd get away with having a hand gun in the picture - especially in today's political environment.

Citizen Rules

04-20-16, 11:34 PM

That one of Tubman is way cool. I wouldn't be opposed to her being on a bill either... despite the fact she is not a founder father like the other people on bills.

If we're going to do her on a bill, there should a series of different people on the 20.

This would be my vote, a genius like no other.

http://i.imgur.com/Sb2im.jpg

Captain Steel

04-20-16, 11:47 PM

He was a time traveler!

Citizen Rules

04-20-16, 11:54 PM

I'd believe it! I think the could have done anything given enough time and resources.

Captain Steel

04-21-16, 12:04 AM

Tesla was featured on an episode of Ancient Aliens! Based on that show, he wasn't just a time traveler, but was communicating with extra-terrestrials (that giant antenna thing he built was used to contact them) and receiving instructions from them, which is how he came up with many of his inventions! :D

Getting back to the argument that money should feature founding fathers - on another thread I recently mentioned how John Adams is not on any money, yet there isn't anyone who was MORE integral to American independence & early American history. (Talk about bias - most of the men on money are tall, stoic or military types - except Franklin of course. Adams was short, chubby and not very good looking, and he lacked Franklin's charisma. But his lack of attractiveness made him no less a patriot, and none can argue that there was anyone more committed to the cause.) If anyone should get a spot on a bill, it should be Adams.

Camo

04-21-16, 02:05 AM

Tesla was featured on an episode of Ancient Aliens! Based on that show, he wasn't just a time traveler, but was communicating with extra-terrestrials (that giant antenna thing he built was used to contact them) and receiving instructions from them, which is how he came up with many of his inventions!

I saw or i should say i read that; i'd never watch Ancient Aliens now the ridiculously hilarious factor has worn off now for me and i'd just like trash like that to get wiped from TV.

The cult surrounding Tesla is a good thing though he was clearly a brilliant man who went a bit forgotten for a while, i think some people think a bit too much of him but if he is introducing people to these subjects who would never glance at them before then it is a great thing.

Omnizoa

04-21-16, 02:13 AM

Should a woman replace Andrew Jackson on the U.S. $20 bill?
Should we be having more important conversations about inequality?

Camo

04-21-16, 02:16 AM

Should we be having more important conversations about inequality?

On a forum about movies? Probably not.

Omnizoa

04-21-16, 02:18 AM

Should we be having more important conversations about inequality?

On a forum about movies? Probably not.
Then why draw the line here?

Camo

04-21-16, 02:27 AM

Then why draw the line here?

Talk about whatever you want to i just think at this point you are out looking for arguments rather than discussions and it is getting pretty boring.

Captain Steel

04-21-16, 02:53 AM

Everything is relative - every topic could be compared to something else that is "more important" or on a grander scale.

This topic is "popular" right now. Most everyone is familiar with money (to different extents, obviously). ;)
It's a pop culture topic that involves economics, sociology, history, politics, race & gender issues and represents a subtle change to each of those areas. So yeah, it's a topic people like to discuss. There will always be more important things to discuss, but with that as a given, is there a reason we can't or shouldn't discuss less important things as well?

NedStark09

04-21-16, 02:57 AM

Besty Ross and maybe Martha Washington. It would need be someone like that. No wait Elinor Roosevelt would work too I guess. But traditionally money has presidents on it other then Ben Franklin which he was well deserving in history. For a Non President.

Captain Steel

04-21-16, 02:59 AM

Al says: talk about whach'oo want to talk about!

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24967&stc=1&d=1461218237

:D

NedStark09

04-21-16, 03:02 AM

Id Replace Jackson with The Duke John Wayne.
I mean If The Duke Is Good Enough For Special Made Checks why cant he and other Icons Like Elvis, Johnny Cash or Frank Sinatra be on money.

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s325/broncogoten-2008/john_wayne_art.jpg

Camo

04-21-16, 03:09 AM

Gatsby

04-21-16, 10:50 AM

Omnizoa

04-21-16, 12:05 PM

Talk about whatever you want to i just think at this point you are out looking for arguments rather than discussions and it is getting pretty boring.
Not really, but if we're gonna take an issue with money not representing the people who use it why not get rid of "in god we trust"?

Or better yet, let's continue to begrudge women with a pittance of recognition by putting only one on only one kind of bill. Or only one on only one kind of coin.

http://www.centercoin.com/media/images/dollar/final_obv.gif
Seriously, that "in god we trust" thing is everywhere, though.